Cahill: I'll grant you Waters may have given you something on appeal to reverse all of this.
Now there is stupid and there is just stupid. Maxine Waters is stupid in both senses of the term. But whether or not her actions could lay the ground for appeal seems to be secondary to the bigger question I have.
If the judge in this case suggests that a reversal on appeal is possible and maybe even likely, then he is basically admitting that "his" call to not declare a mistrial is the incorrect ruling. Now quite obviously the judge declaring a mistrial at this stage would be a bad result for everyone involved and would probably lead to violence against him personally. I am sure he must be taking personal safety into consideration here.
But boy oh boy, this is a clusterfuck at this point and anyone who believes that Chauvin has gotten a fair trial or that he will see a fair jury verdict is living in a fantasy world. At this point, nothing short of second degree murder will appease the crowd and keep the jurors safe. To believe that they were able to avoid hearing about the violence in Minneapolis, Brooklyn Center and to believe that they heard nothing about Maxine Waters is to pretend that we do not live in 2021. Most of these people drove home from court and probably saw protests and riots.
My prediction right now is that the jury is more likely than not to come back with convictions on every count... for no other reason that to protect their own safety. Not because Chauvin is guilty of murder or because the state has made a case for murder. I am not personally convinced that they made a strong case for even manslaughter as described by the Judge's jury instructions. The State's last ditch argument in their closing statements (actually one of the last things they stated) was to muddy the water regarding jury instructions by claiming that the judge stated that they did not need criminal intent to find him guilty of murder. That all they needed was to prove that Chauvin intended to put his knee on him. Laughable and somewhat desperate.
But when I read certain people in the comment section lapping up everything the prosecution states as if it was gospel, I understand exactly how certain jurors predisposed to find Chauvin guilty will think. All emotion with some murky justification for a murder conviction as their only requirement from logic.
Bottom line: Mob rule and out cancel culture has now escalated to the point of politicians calling for violence if they don't get the results they want. This is what our American society has come to.
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ASSOCIATED PRESS:
Biden Weighs How to Handle Chauvin Verdict
April 19, 5:09 pm
“The Biden administration is privately weighing how to handle the upcoming verdict in the trial of former Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin, including considering whether President Joe Biden should address the nation and dispatching specially trained community facilitators from the Justice Department,” the AP reports.
The Minneapolis Star Tribune reports the jury has begun deliberations.
Buy guns and ammunition.
And fire extinguishers
You are proof of this.
Best-selling author and former Breitbart editor Milo Yiannopoulos is making no secret about what he thinks of today's Republicans and the so-called conservative movement: They're all fake and should be set "on fire."
"Understand something: The conservative 'movement' doesn't exist. It is a con,"
Bottom line: Mob rule and out cancel culture has now escalated to the point of politicians calling for violence if they don't get the results they want. This is what our American society has come to.
Law and order does exist. You have been gaslighted. And as a result long time friend you need help.
Law and order does exist. You have been gaslighted.
Yeah Roger...
Are you saying the rioting here is a figment of the media's imagination? Is it just normal that California politician comes to Minnesota and openly calls for an escalation of the violence if Derek Chauvin is not convicted of first degree murder (which he isn't even charged with) is just normal behavior?
Fact of the matter is nobody cares to burn down your nursing home. But there are friends and relatives of mine who live very close to this rioting and my 18 year old and girlfriend are working only a few minutes from where other have rioting and where the Burnsville car jacking and shooting just took place.
People in my life are in danger right now and why, exactly?
So Roger... you can just go fuck yourself.
The Wall Street Journal reported.
The judge said the right things.
Earlier, Judge Cahill explained to the jurors all the elements of each charge that need to be proven to sustain a conviction. In no case does the state have to prove that Mr. Chauvin had an intent to kill Mr. Floyd, but all the charges require proof that he caused his death.
A conviction of second-degree murder requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt that Mr. Chauvin caused the death of Mr. Floyd while assaulting him by intentionally applying unlawful force without consent that resulted in substantial bodily harm. It isn’t necessary for the state to prove that Mr. Chauvin intended to inflict substantial bodily harm.
The judge explained that third-degree murder requires proof that Mr. Chauvin caused Mr. Floyd’s death by committing an eminently dangerous act that was highly likely to cause death and showed a reckless disregard for human life. To convict Mr. Chauvin of second-degree manslaughter, the jurors would need to believe that it was Mr. Chauvin’s culpable negligence and reckless actions that caused Mr. Floyd’s death.
Judge Cahill also included special instructions that apply to the conduct of a police officer defendant.
“No crime is committed,” he told jurors, “if a police officer’s actions were justified by the police officer’s use of reasonable force in the line of duty in effecting a lawful arrest or preventing an escape from custody.” He said that to convict on any of the charges, jurors must find Mr. Chauvin’s conduct unreasonable, meaning that a reasonable officer in the same situation would have acted differently.
People like you who supported the most dangerous President in the history of the United states of America because he said they are trying to replace white people like you.
STFU Alky no matter how many times your doddering, demented, old ass repeats something through those yellow teeth, doesn’t make it so
Get out of your room occasionally, the walls literally are closing in on you
However, if you really embrace this cancel culture stuff, you might want to make some actual good use of it. Cardi B has a hit that has placed No. 5 on Billboard's top 100 hits and it placed No. 1 on NPR's list ... that is National Public Radio. The name of the song is "WAP." What is most offensive are the lyrics. I implore all parents with teenage kids to Google the lyrics of "WAP." Just do it ... then make good use of cancel culture.
I doubt anyone here didn’t know what NPR stood for
Go outside
https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/01/cancel-the-cancel-culture-craziness/
Cancel the Cancel-Culture Craziness
By KYLE SMITH
January 25, 2021 10:11 AM
The more you listen to mobs, the more power you give them.
When you talk about the cancel culture I'm coming to get you!!!
Lolololololololololol
Very Emotional Effeminate Roger.
Address the topic of the Thread.
NPR news said the same thing Scott.
The judge in the trial of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin criticized comments made by Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., over the weekend, calling them "disrespectful to the rule of law," but rejected a motion from the defense to use her rhetoric as grounds for a mistrial.
"I'm aware that Congresswoman Waters was talking specifically about this trial, and about the unacceptability of anything less than a murder conviction, and talk about being 'confrontational,' " Judge Peter Cahill said on Monday as the closing arguments wrapped up in the trial of Chauvin for the killing of George Floyd.
The trial is now with the jury.
Cahill said he wished "elected officials would stop talking about this case" but said that the jury had been instructed not to watch the news and therefore Waters' comments could not prejudice the jury and warrant a mistrial.
"Beyond the articles that we're talking specifically about the facts of this case, a congresswoman's opinion really doesn't matter a whole lot," Cahill said.
He noted separately, however, that Waters may have provided the defense "something on appeal that may result in this whole trial being overturned."
It rarely works for the defense team. Proving evidence against the jurors, even in the modern media era.
The first amendment rights guaranteed the rights of see the news
Not when you take your oath as a juror.
It rarely works for the defense team. Proving evidence against the jurors, even in the modern media era.
The first amendment rights guaranteed the rights of see the news
WTF?????
THWAP! THWAP!!
Just shut up take an oxy and go to bed, brush those teeth first
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