Thursday, April 1, 2021

State looking to introduce "edited" versions of the body cam?

Apparently after the jury was sent home last night, there was some additional legal jostling regarding the admittance of the body cam videos. The video that the prosecution wants to admit are edited, where as the defense is arguing that only unedited versions of the video should be allowed. The defense (oddly enough) had to produce the full videos on a memory stick for the Judge to have because the prosecutions tapes they want to admit have already been edited.



The State also wishes to limit the "full length" portions of the body cam. Full length being a larger viewing area, rather than longer playing. So they apparently are looking to not only edit which times of the body cam the jury sees, but also they want to limit the actual view point.

At this point the judge seems inclined to possibly allow the edited tapes to be played and put the burden of playing the full tapes to the defense. Moreover, the prosecution is wanting the option of objecting to the inclusion of the full unedited tapes when that time comes. 

I cannot fathom how a judge would allow anything edited to be introduced when the full video is available. The best guess provided by legal analysts is that the State is looking to introduce body cam video that would make it appear that Floyd was not struggling or fighting back, which could be done by editing the time or the view point.  Such as cutting out the time periods or cutting out the view that includes Floyd when he is on the ground. That seems odd, if the judge will then allow the defense to present additional tapes at a later time. Moreover, it doesn't seem like a very just or fair thing to do if we are looking for the truth?


20 comments:

April Fools said...

In a courageous new episode of Sesame Street, the puppets teach kids about social justice by introducing a new character, Todd-- a white male puppet who is blamed for everything wrong in the world.

Minutes into the episode, Todd is introducing himself to the other puppets and a prescriptively diverse cast of guest children, when he is confronted by Grover about Todd's culpability regarding a distant ancestor who fought for the Confederacy.

Later on, Todd works alongside the puppet Abby Cadabby to stock the shelves of Hooper’s store with Goya beans. His accidental revelation that he gets paid 30% more than her leads to Abby singing a tearful rendition of ‘Workforce Woes.’

The episode’s final sketch portrays Todd selling cookies without the requisite health warning labels, forcing Cookie Monster into obesity and skyrocketing healthcare costs.

In an upcoming episode entitled "R is for Racism", Todd appears in multiple educational scenarios-- including a math teacher forcing minority puppets to learn 2 + 2 = 4, and an ignorant puppet who thinks some cops might be good. 

rrb said...



This is Ellison, seeking to limit the footage because it's "too troubling" or some such bullshit.

rrb said...




In an upcoming episode entitled "A is for Alky", Roger appears in multiple educational scenarios-- including a TDS-afflicted maniac who beats the living shit out of his wife, and an enraged, spittle-flecked, serial abuser who learns how cops deliver restraining orders.






Analysts said...

If the defense team uses unedited footage of the nine minutes and 26 seconds later on, the jurors will look at the defendants face, as he expresses zero sympathy, and be inclined to convict for intent. The lack of empathy will be evident.

Robert Reich said...

Donald Trump isn’t single-handedly responsible for this, but he demonstrated to the GOP the political potency of bigotry and the GOP has taken him up on it.

This transformation in one of America’s two eminent political parties has shocking implications, not just for the future of American democracy but for the future of democracy everywhere.  

“I predict to you, your children or grandchildren are going to be doing their doctoral thesis on the issue of who succeeded: autocracy or democracy?” Joe Biden opined at his news conference on Thursday.

In his maiden speech at the State Department on March 4, Antony Blinken conceded that the erosion of democracy around the world is “also happening here in the United States.”

The secretary of state didn’t explicitly talk about the Republican Party, but there was no mistaking his subject.

“When democracies are weak … they become more vulnerable to extremist movements from the inside and to interference from the outside,” he warned.

People around the world witnessing the fragility of American democracy “want to see whether our democracy is resilient, whether we can rise to the challenge here at home. That will be the foundation for our legitimacy in defending democracy around the world for years to come.”

That resilience and legitimacy will depend in large part on whether Republicans or Democrats prevail on voting rights.

Not since the years leading up to the Civil War has the clash between the nation’s two major parties so clearly defined the core challenge facing American democracy.

Myballs said...

Non citizens do not have voting rights. Neither do high school kids. Dems want both to vote, preferably by mail ballot thst cannot be verified.

Bullshit Detective said...

Thursday’s testimony followed a day when the jury was barraged with unaltered video, including body camera footage showing Mr. Floyd struggling to avoid entering a police squad car and the 9 minutes and 29 seconds when Mr. Chauvin knelt on his neck.

The video also included never before broadcast footage of Mr. Chauvin defending his actions to a bystander and shots of Mr. Floyd inside Cup Foods, where he appeared to sway slightly, joked with other customers and used what clerks believed was a counterfeit $20 bill to pay for a pack of cigarettes.

A counterfeit $20 bill deserved the death penalty of George Floyd according to Thecoldheartedtruth.

C.H. Truth said...

Wow....

EMT just testified under oath that he checked the carotid artery for a pulse "while" Chauvin's knee was still in place. Specifically showing an exhibit for reference.

"Yes sir" was the answer when asked.

That means that the knee was "not" in fact blocking blood flow from the carotid artery.


Hmmmm.... so if the knee was not blocking the esophagus and it was not pressing directly against the carotid artery, then how was it that Floyd was being strangled?

Anonymous said...

"Alky Stupid" ® RRB

"Roger AmickMarch 31, 2021 at 6:59 PM

American Greatness is a fucking joke"

Alex Jones said...

Former Vice President Mike Pence is setting himself up to run for President in 2024 after he violated the Constitution by illegally allowing the certification of fraudulent Electoral College votes following the highly contested 2020 election, signifying a transition of power influenced by the presence of the US military in Washington DC.

Hang Mike Pence January 20th 2024!

Analysts said...

His supervisor said that when the suspect was no longer breathing, there was no need to continue kneeling on his neck.

The surrounding crowd was irrelevant.

Caliphate4vr said...

Analcyst is more apropos

rrb said...


Hmmmm.... so if the knee was not blocking the esophagus and it was not pressing directly against the carotid artery, then how was it that Floyd was being strangled?

He wasn't being strangled. The autopsy report states as much there was no damage to the soft tissue or the hyoid bone as is the case with strangulation.

Junkie Floyd overdosed. Period. His grifter family needs to take their $27 MILLION and shut the fuck up.

And who wants to bet that money's all gone inside of five years?





Analytic analysis said...

The jury also heard from David Pleoger, a recently retired sergeant with the Minneapolis Police Department, who went to the scene just after the arrest. Mr. Pleoger spoke about the department’s policy on use of force and was probed by prosecutors on whether Mr. Chauvin complied with those policies. Asked whether police officers should remove their knees from a suspect’s neck when the suspect stops resisting, Mr. Pleoger said they should. According to video evidence, Mr. Chauvin kept his knee on Mr. Floyd for several minutes after Mr. Floyd became unresponsive. The defense objected when prosecutors tried to ask Mr. Pleoger whether Mr. Chauvin violated use of force policies, but the prosecution did ask him when, in his opinion, the police officers should have ended their restraint of Mr. Floyd. He replied, “When Mr. Floyd was no longer offering up any resistance to the officers, they could have ended their restraint.”

Analytic analysis said...

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/04/01/us/derek-chauvin-trial-live/

Bullshit Detective said...

None citizens cannot vote. They would be arrested.

The Constitution lowered the age requirement to 18.

Proof of age is required everywhere.

Caliphate4vr said...


Anonymous Bullshit Detective said...
None citizens cannot vote. They would be arrested.


Looks like another shitty phone

Anonymous said...

CHT discourages:
- reprinting other people's opinion (C&P)
- excessive profanity
- threats
- personal insults

Hmm maybe he's just going through some pretty bad things

Caliphate4vr said...

He also discourages gutless trolls changing their nyms every other post, Alky

Eugene Robinson Pulitzer Prize Winning Author said...

Then Floyd falls silent. But for an additional 4 minutes and 44 seconds, Chauvin keeps his knee on Floyd's neck -- even after other officers tell him they can no longer detect Floyd's pulse, even after an ambulance crew arrives.

Put legalisms aside for a moment and think about that. How could anyone treat a fellow human being with such little regard for his life? After he stopped moving -- after he stopped breathing -- Floyd obviously posed no threat to anyone, let alone to the heavily armed police officers who surrounded his inert body. But Chauvin keeps kneeling on his neck anyway. Why? To keep an obviously inert man immobile? Or to make a point to the bystanders, Black and White, who witnessed the whole thing?

To me, it looks like a brutal demonstration of who has power and who does not. It looks like a performance showing that Minneapolis police had dominance over what Chauvin's defense attorney, Eric Nelson, called the "high-crime" African American neighborhood the officers were patrolling. And that is the essence of the problem with police violence in this country. Policing is far too often seen by officers and their superiors as something done to a Black or Brown community -- rather than with the community.

Nelson, predictably, used his opening statement to try to make Floyd the defendant and onlookers his accomplices. Several times, he highlighted Floyd's physical size -- which should come as no surprise. Throughout U.S. history, the idea of Black men as superhuman in their strength and subhuman in how they use it has been used to justify our restraint, our incarceration, our lynching.