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| After both defense use of force experts stated that the knee restraint was not lethal, Two medical experts are suggesting that this was a case of positional asphyxia. |
But apparently the prosecution is moving on to bigger and better things with the idea of positional asphyxia. While the term "choke" and "strangulation" have been tossed around now since the day this took place, apparently we should have been looking at this all along as something else. That something would be a combination of a concrete ground, handcuffs with too short of a chain, his legs being held, a knee to the "neck area", a knee on the back, and everything else in between that can best be described as positional asphyxia
Okay. Caveat. We apparently should look at everything except for his existing heart problems, his existing circulation problems, the fact that he was high on Meth, and especially we must not under any circumstance consider the 11 nanograms per milliliter of Fentanyl in his system as having anything to do with his death. These medical experts are not only so smart as to know what killed him, but apparently are so smart they also know what sort of things couldn't possibly have killed him.
Bottom line: He wasn't choked. That was yesterday's news. Today we are being told that the 6"6" 250 pound bouncer was literally crushed "like a pancake" by the 5' 7" 145 pound police officer to the point where he simply could no longer breathe.
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Defense attorney Nelson asked whether fentanyl can “cause a death as a result of low oxygen.”
“Your answer is yes, but only in part,” Tobin said–again reiterating his prior point.
“Do people go into a coma before they die from fentanyl?” Blackwell asked.
“Yes,” the doctor replied.
“Was Mr. Floyd ever in a coma?” the prosecution pressed.
“No,” Tobin replied.
A veteran lung doctor, Dr. Martin J. Tobin, a pulmonologist and critical care doctor, testified on Thursday that George Floyd’s death was caused in part by Derek Chauvin’s knees pressing against his neck and back, making it impossible for him to breathe, and that Mr. Floyd showed signs of a brain injury about four minutes before Mr. Chauvin lifted his knee from his neck.
Dr. Martin J. Tobin, a pulmonologist and critical care doctor in Chicago, said in court that the combination of Mr. Chauvin’s pressure, the handcuffs pulling Mr. Floyd’s hands behind his back and Mr. Floyd’s body being pressed against the street had caused him to die “from a low level of oxygen.”
Today we are being told, by a computer programmer, unqualified self proclaimed
medical expert, Bottom line: He wasn't choked that and the 6"6" 250 pound bouncer, African American man, was not literally crushed "like a pancake" by the 5' 7" 145 pound police officer to the point where he simply could no longer breath.
George Floyd’s death was caused in part by Derek Chauvin’s knees Dr. Martin J. Tobin, a pulmonologist and critical care doctor.
The self proclaimed medical examiner
He wasn't choked
Your own words matter. To yourself.
Roger so badly wants the officer found guilty. Not sure why.
Thecoldheartedtruth will argue that a combination of Floyd's health conditions that Chauvin could not have known about means there is reasonable doubt about whether he ultimately caused Floyd's death.
George Floyd’s death was caused in part by Derek Chauvin’s knees Dr. Martin J. Tobin, a pulmonologist and critical care doctor.
Unless one juror questions the cause of death, he will be convicted by a jury of his peers.
Now Lil Schitty finally admits Chauvin killed Floyd but now is playing word games like the troll he is on what defines choking....Like his argument years ago on water boarding is not torture.....maybe he should subject himself to the same treatment and the asked if he was choked or not....What a frigging fool he has become!!!!!
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George Floyd died of low level of oxygen, medical expert testifies; Derek Chauvin kept knee on his neck ‘majority of the time’
Several prosecution experts refuted defense claims that drugs and Floyd’s health contributed to his death.
Breathing expert: George Floyd died of ‘a low level of oxygen’
Martin Tobin, a pulmonologist from Hines, Ill., said on April 8 that George Floyd died of lack of oxygen, which did not result from a fentanyl overdose. (The Washington Post)
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Holly Bailey
April 8, 2021 at 7:52 p.m. EDT
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MINNEAPOLIS — The pressure of Derek Chauvin’s knees on George Floyd’s neck and back made it virtually impossible for the handcuffed man to breathe as he was pinned face down on a street and would have killed any healthy person, an expert on the respiratory system testified Thursday.
Martin Tobin, a Chicago-area pulmonologist and critical-care doctor who specializes in the science of breathing, testified that the pressure of Chauvin “jamming” his knees into Floyd’s body cut off oxygen and led to brain damage within minutes, sparking an arrhythmia that caused his heart to stop. He characterized Chauvin’s knee as being on Floyd’s neck “the vast majority of the time.”
“One second, he’s alive, and one second, he’s no longer,” Tobin said as he narrated a clip of a bystander’s video zoomed in to show Floyd’s face pressed into the asphalt, while the then-police officer’s knee pressed unrelentingly on his neck as Floyd slowly stopped moving. “That’s the moment the life goes out of his body.”
Anonymous Myballs said...
Roger so badly wants the officer found guilty. Not sure why.
In a word, revenge. Revenge against those who actually have a life. A life outside an obscure blog, outside of four walls with TV & wifi. You're looking at a guy who drank away everything that he ever had, destroying marriages, vital organs, and the nest egg that wasn't even really his. Who then begged for coins on facebook while threatening suicide (as if anyone fucking cared).
And this is not uncommon. Liberals whose lives have turned to complete shit can often be counted on to try and live vicariously through others, or stumble through life as a miserable scold, what we know as 'Karen.' And then there's the need for some false sense of superiority. And the need for someone to blame for the flaming shitpile that is his miserable existence. The list goes on.
Chauvin didn't murder the Junkie any more than one of us did. Junkie ultimately put himself in that position just like the alky put himself in Medicaid Acres.
Who's responsible for Junkie being dead? Junkie.
Who's responsible for the alky being locked down in a nursing home? The alky.
See the parallel?
More sad news....Only 3 more mass shootings yesterday.....And the GOP thinks gun violence like covid will just go away by itself!!!!!! The fools are heading down the road to irrelevance as the NRA bankruptcy is revealing Wayne to be a massive money hungry fraud who used the NRA as his personal bank!!!!! BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!
Now Rat....Chauvin is a cold blooded killer and we need JUSTICE to prevail....You on the other hand are just a racist fuck who will defend the devil if he was an R.....!!!! Floyd died because of a cop!!!!! PERIOD....you on the other hand are just a trump slurping asshole with no redeeming values !!!!!! And maybe you can explain why your wife kicked you out!!!!!! Sad the biggest mouth also has the most baggage and is still too chicken to reveal the shit hole town he lives in because he is afraid !!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
Sad you even recognize Chauvin had a shitty day yesterday which will probably be worse today!!!!!
RIP Prince Phillip has died at age 99.
So now are we supposed to ignore the first few days of prosecution testimony and roger's "brilliant" explanations ?
Well I guess the bathroom breaks still stand
In a word, revenge. Revenge against those who actually have a life.
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MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — George Floyd died of a lack of oxygen from being pinned to the pavement with a knee on his neck, medical experts testified at former Officer Derek Chauvin’s murder trial Thursday, emphatically rejecting the defense theory that Floyd’s drug use and underlying health problems killed him.
“A healthy person subjected to what Mr. Floyd was subjected to would have died,” said prosecution witness Dr. Martin Tobin, a lung and critical care specialist at the Edward Hines Jr. VA Hospital and Loyola University’s medical school in Illinois.
Gulping
Make sure you wash your hands
We are all in this together
In a word, revenge. Revenge against those who actually have a life.
In a word loser......you who think selling insurance, drinking, living in a condo, and foraging for food is a life BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!!!!
The claim that drugs killed George Floyd relies on a racist trope
In the Derek Chauvin trial, the defense’s attempt to blame George Floyd’s death on drug use relies on retrograde and racist myths.
By Carl L. Hart
Roger , on your train topic.
Got Facts?
"It would eventually pay for itself." Alky
Ok, tell us exactly in dollars and cents how that happens?
I’m not naïve. I know how these killer cop trials go. The defense drags the deceased victim’s reputation through the mud — “he was a big Black man prone to violence” or “he was under the influence of a drug” — to create a smoke screen, to generate empathy for the cop. From Michael Brown to Philando Castile, too many judges and juries have fallen victim to this tired ploy — the “drug-crazed Negro” script —when a white police officer kills a Black person.
True to form, Mr. Chauvin’s lawyers have tried to deflect blame from his brutal act onto the drugs found in Mr. Floyd’s body at the time of his death. “The evidence will show that Mr. Floyd died of a cardiac arrhythmia that occurred as a result of hypertension, his coronary disease, ingestion of methamphetamine and fentanyl, and the adrenaline flowing through his body,” defense attorney Eric Nelson told the jury. In other words, Mr. Floyd might still be alive today had he not taken drugs. Shame on us if we buy this bogus defense this time.
I’m a neuropsychopharmacologist who researches drug addiction. My work has focused on the unjust and unscientific stigmas surrounding drug use and the criminalization of drugs around the globe. The defense’s attempt to paint Mr. Floyd as a crazed drug addict relies on retrograde myths about the impact of drugs on our bodies and minds.
Jason Whitlock
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Black Lives Matter founder buys $1.4 million home in Topanga, which has a black population of 1.4%. She's with her people!
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You sure can get rewarded for leading a movement to burn down black owned businesses and attack the police
Mr. Broke-it Biden. $5.2 Trillion is excess spending. And Alky believes it might not work. wow.
"Why it matters: They might be wrong" Alky posted
That upcoming economic boom is enough to be smothered by the dementia president's tax and immigration policies.
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HUNTER BIDEN IS A DEGENERATE THAT SHOULD BE IN PRISON and our senile-in-chief should be made to answer for why he LIED and said that the laptop was “Russian Disinformation”.
SCUM family.
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Mainstream media finally finding out about the Hard Drive from Hell
We reported on it extensively in October at @OANN and BlueAnon responded by losing their minds
I offered copies publicly to @jaketapper & @joerogan
Now forensics proves it is Hunter’s laptop
Yellin is right that corporate tac rates need to be uniform globally. But if course we have a president with dementia who wants to raise U.S. rates unilaterally which will drive companies overseas. No wonder Roger likes him. They have the same economic IQ.
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Joe Biden giving a speech on restricting guns as his son is under investigation for committing a felony while buying a gun actually sums up the Biden presidency pretty well.
Well the big guy appointed Hunters partner to oversee the case over at DOJ
Hunter says he's not worried.
I can figure out why.
* Hunter's lawyers partner
Both Naive and bias Socialist Alky.
"these killer cop trials"
Really, you have him convicted And hung
Roger is using the Amtrak Model to support Mr. Broke-it Biden plan for high speed rail.
“A healthy person subjected to what Mr. Floyd was subjected to would have died,” said prosecution witness Dr. Martin Tobin, a lung and critical care specialist at the Edward Hines Jr. VA Hospital and Loyola University’s medical school in Illinois.
A perfectly healthy person dies because a 140 pound person distributes "part" of his weight on two different parts of a person's back/neck area (as trained by the police) and basically crushes them to death?
I am pretty sure that there will be some medical experts on the defense side who will have an absolute field day with that.
People might want to start to do a little independent research on how much weight our ribcage can take or how much weight or trapezoid muscle region can take... or how much weight it "actually" takes to crush the life out of someone.
Might be surprised. Death by "crushing" was a thing back in certain historical times. Do a bit of research on how much weight it took to crush the life out of people when it was used as a judicial tool.
Doctor Who Performed George Floyd Autopsy Is Expected to Testify
Testimony from the Hennepin County medical examiner would follow medical experts who emphasized that Mr. Floyd died from a low level of oxygen.
Scott is more credible as a forensic pathologist. In his mind.
Roger - if a well qualified medical doctor testifies on behalf of the defense and suggests that a 140 lb person cannot crush a 250 lb person to death by putting his knees on the trapezoid area and ribcage as Chauvin did...
Who are you going to believe?
What if the defense puts on a demonstration where a 140 lb person restrains a 250 lb man in the same manner and the 250 lb man does not die? Will you still believe the prosecution's doctor?
Just curious...
George Floyd died of a lack of oxygen from being pinned to the pavement with a knee on his neck, according to Dr. Martin Tobin, a lung and critical care specialist
According to
“A healthy person subjected to what Mr. Floyd was subjected to would have died,” said prosecution witness Dr. Martin Tobin, a lung and critical care specialist at the Edward Hines Jr. VA Hospital and Loyola University’s medical school in Illinois.
He's a lot more experienced than you think you are.
Scott, I'm 6'3" about 220lbs. If I had been handcuffed and then a man about 140lb man with his equipment would weigh about 150 and pinned me to the street face down, I strongly doubt that I would be able to breathe normally or call I can't breathe for more than a couple minutes, until I would die of the lack of oxygen.
Doesn't answer my question Roger...
Or does it?
Even if the defense was able to prove it through a demonstration that a healthy man did not die... you would still believe the prosecution witnesses.
Just like you believed that the MMA expert was correct when he stated that Chauvin applied a "blood choke hold" - we now know he was incorrect.
Scott can you imagine if you were handcuffed and pinned down onto the floor and a normal sized man, would kneel down on your neck and shoulders, would you be able to keep breathing for nine minutes and twenty nine seconds? And that other people are holding your legs down so you can't attempt to stand up enough to catch your breath??
I won't get an honest answer.
Who am I going to believe?
Dr. Martin Tobin, a lung and critical care specialist at the Edward Hines Jr. VA Hospital and Loyola University’s medical school in Illinois.
Not a conservative spreadsheeter!
The first witness on Friday, Dr. Lindsey C. Thomas, a forensic pathologist who helped train Dr. Bak said half of cases when people die of insufficient oxygen.
Because of the nine minutes, he died of the lack of oxygen.
Dr. Thomas said that Mr. Floyd died because “he was not able to get enough oxygen in to maintain his bodily functions.” She said she came to that conclusion mainly from “evidence from the terminal events, the video evidence that show Mr. Floyd in a position where he was unable to adequately breathe.”
She said that drugs were not the reason for his death.
The level of Fentanyl intoxication did not cause his death. It was very low.
Death by "crushing" was a thing back in certain historical times. Do a bit of research on how much weight it took to crush the life out of people when it was used as a judicial tool.
The most famous case in the United Kingdom was that of Roman Catholic martyr St Margaret Clitherow, who (in order to avoid a trial in which her own children would be obliged to give evidence) was pressed to death on March 25, 1586, after refusing to plead to the charge of having harboured Catholic (then outlawed) priests in her house. Several hardened criminals, including William Spigott (1721) and Edward Burnworth, lasted a half hour under 400 pounds (180 kg) before pleading to the indictment. Others, such as Major Strangways (1658) and John Weekes (1731), refused to plead, even under 400 pounds (180 kg), and were killed when bystanders, out of mercy, sat on them.[10]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crushing_(execution)
Chauvin MIGHT be 150 pounds with all his gear.
Junkie was 6'3", 250.
Only an imbecile believes Junkie was choked out by a guy the size of an 8th grader.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
The level of Fentanyl intoxication did not cause his death. It was very low.
A LIE.
It was three times the lethal limit. This is a matter of FACT.
Take it up with Dr. Lindsey C. Thomas, a forensic pathologist, Your opinion is meaningless.
She said that the lack of bruising is very common.
Funny Roger...
I couple of days ago you were arguing that if you put your knee on someone just as Chauvin did that it would "choke" them, just like Chauvin choked Floyd.
What happened to your absolute certainty that you could choke someone?
Tell you what Roger.
Be a man and admit that you were wrong and I was right about whether or not Chauvin could have "choked" him to death... then we can discuss the other stuff.
If you cannot admit you were wrong, when clearly you were... then why on earth would anyone bother with you?
Scott, further evidence can change my opinion. People like you hung people who said that the world is not flat
The last word in Ch/Scottie's article is supposed to be
"breathe" not "breath."
Breathe is a verb, breath is a noun.
BUT FAR MORE IMPORTANT:
Scottie/Ch's depiction of the trial is breathtakingly biased and not at all fact based.
The further evidence shows that he he would not have died if he hadn't been held down for nine minutes and twenty nine seconds.
The drug abuse was not going to kill George Floyd.
Take it up with the doctor ass....
Dr. Thomas is explaining what she sees in autopsy photos of Floyd. The photos are being shown to the jury and spectators in the court, but not publicly — presumably because the judge thinks they are too gruesome to show on television.
Blogger JamesNewLeaf said...
The last word in Ch/Scottie's article is supposed to be
"breathe" not "breath."
Breathe is a verb, breath is a noun.
BUT FAR MORE IMPORTANT:
Scottie/Ch's depiction of the trial is breathtakingly biased and not at all fact based.
James is a pedophile dick
Scott, further evidence can change my opinion.
But Roger... We both know that you had believed and still believed (probably until yesterday) that George Floyd was strangled to death by Dereck Chauvin and you would have had no issues with a guilty verdict and even voting that way yourself.
You were not alone. Medical people and pundits all over the country demanded that George Floyd was strangled or choked by Dereck Chauvin.
You spent hours and hours arguing with me and others about whether or not Chauvin choked George Floyd. You were literally incapable of even considering the possibility that you were wrong.
Yet the states "own" witnesses crapped on that theory under cross examination and now you have just conveniently jumped on the next bandwagon of positional asphyxia.
Please explain to me how after all that time of arguing one thing (when it was wrong) - I am supposed to just jump on board with the next theory that as a matter of common sense sounds equally implausible?
So after suffering the humiliation of your previous 100% guaranteed absolute fact that Floyd was strangled or choked by a knee on the neck being shot to hell..
Do you "MAYBE" want to wait until you have heard the defense present their side of the case...
Before running right back to the "guilty as hell" narrative?
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You don't comprehend.
If the defense team produces enough evidence to charge my mind I will admit it.
But you have NEVER done the same thing.
You believe that he's not guilty because of your underlying feelings about race.
Dr. Lindsey C. Thomas, a forensic pathologist actually said that he killed George Floyd.
I will find the exact words.
It's a preemptive effort to discredit the defense.
Before running right back to the "guilty as hell" narrative?
The alky isn't running "back" to anything.
He declared Chauvin "guilty as hell" of MURDER the day Junkie Floyd overdosed. And he has not wavered from that position.
The alky's only real problem is not being able to keep his bullshit straight during the trial.
He's beclowned himself so many times on this topic you'd think HE'S on fentanyl.
The defense attorney is starting now
Blogger Roger Amick said...
The defense attorney is starting now
That's nice alky.
Please be sure to let us know when everyone get's up to take a leak.
She added that in her opinion, it meant that the cardiopulmonary arrest — the ceasing of heart and lung function — was due to the subdual, restraint and compression by law enforcement.
She added that in her opinion, it meant that the cardiopulmonary arrest — the ceasing of heart and lung function — was due to the subdual, restraint and compression by law enforcement.
By definition a cardiopulmonary arrest is where first the heart stops pumping blood which leads to a lack of oxygen, which then leads to death.
If it was the other way around - that a lack of oxygen cause the heart to stop beating, then by nature that is asphyxia, not cardiopulmonary arrest. If a person dies from asphyxia, the heart stopping is just the normal reaction, not an arrest.
That is not my opinion, that is the actual definition of the two medical terms from multiple medical journals and medical sites. Anyone can look this up. Although I doubt some of you would ever think to do so.
So quite literally either the report that stated cardiopulmonary arrest or the testimony that is trying to put it in line with asphyxia is bullshit. I strongly suspect that it is the latter, not the former.
The only other explanation is that the prosecution called a doctor what doesn't actually understand the difference? Unlikely.
The prosecution has to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt, and the defense has to create some doubt in the jurors’ minds.
It seems like Derek Chauvin’s lawyer is trying to raise all these other possibilities that could have caused George Floyd’s death, possibly hoping jurors will feel uncertain that it was indeed Chauvin’s restraint of Floyd that caused the death.
Scott, I haven't come to a conclusion yet. But you have.
Asphyxiation is bullshit in your mind Scott, just like you said on January 6th that the Democratic media is prejudiced and called out the use of Insurrection.
You are very predictable.
Lollipop
Lack of oxygen to the heart, doesn't lead to an immediate death, like an oxygen shortage into the brain.
The defense attorneys argued that he suffered from PDA.
Patent ductus arteriosus (PDA) is an opening between two blood vessels leading from the heart.
His heart was not in terrible condition and the lack of oxygen did not cause a heart attack. The opening between the two blood vessels leading into the heart. According to a doctor on the fake MSNBC live with Chuck Todd.
His heart was not in terrible condition...CARDIOVASCULAR SYSTEM:
The 540 g heart (upper limit of normal for body length is 510 g; upper limit of normal for body weight is 521 g)1 is contained in an intact pericardial sac. The epicardial surface is smooth, with modest fat investment. The coronary arteries are present in a normal distribution, with a right dominant pattern. Cross sections of the vessels show multifocal atherosclerosis, with 75% proximal and 75% mid narrowing of the left anterior descending coronary artery; 75% proximal narrowing of the 1st diagonal branch of the left anterior descending coronary artery; 25% proximal narrowing of the circumflex coronary artery; and 90% proximal narrowing of the right coronary artery.
The myocardium is homogeneous, redbrown, and firm. The valve leaflets are thin and mobile. The walls of the left and right ventricles are 1.2 and 0.4 cm thick, respectively. The endocardium is smooth and glistening. Both ventricular cavities are mildly dilated. The minimally atherosclerotic aorta gives rise to three intact and patent arch vessels. The renal and mesenteric vessels are unremarkable.
Rat...
I have not been paying much attention today, other than reading some highlights. But if the prosecution doctors are suggesting that George Floyd had a normal and healthy heart, then they are morons who should be have their medical licensed revoked.
I am guessing that their argument is that Floyd's bad heart was not a factor and that is just being misunderstood by Roger.
The brain stem
The brain stem is the lower part of the brain that's connected to the spinal cord (part of the central nervous system in the spinal column).
The brain stem is responsible for regulating most of the body's automatic functions that are essential for life. These include:
breathing
heartbeat
blood pressure
swallowing
The brain stem also relays information to and from the brain to the rest of the body, so it plays an important role in the brain’s core functions, such as consciousness, awareness and movement.
https://www.nhsinform.scot/illnesses-and-conditions/brain-nerves-and-spinal-cord/brain-stem-death
Scott, you have things 100% incorrect.
She added that in her opinion, it meant that the cardiopulmonary arrest — the ceasing of heart and lung function — was due to the subdual, restraint and compression by law enforcement.
By definition a cardiopulmonary arrest is where first the heart stops pumping blood which leads to a lack of oxygen, which then leads to death.
The person was already dead before the heart quit pumping blood. The heart didn't quite working when the brain was dead and quit sending signals to the heart.
https://www.nhsinform.scot/illnesses-and-conditions/brain-nerves-and-spinal-cord/brain-stem-death
Blogger C.H. Truth said...
Rat...
I have not been paying much attention today, other than reading some highlights. But if the prosecution doctors are suggesting that George Floyd had a normal and healthy heart, then they are morons who should be have their medical licensed revoked.
Indeed, CH. Even a layperson can read the autopsy report and discern that Junkie's coronary arteries were pretty much fucked; blocked from 75% to 90%.
You have to be 'alky stupid' to not accept that fact and argue otherwise.
The depths of dishonesty that are being sunk to in order to find Chauvin guilty are nothing short of breathtaking, and if our "justice" system can do this to someone with the world watching, imagine to what it can do to any one of us in obscurity.
These people are fucking EVIL.
Scott, you weren't paying attention, but instead you went to the Insurrection website to get your opinions.
https://www.nhsinform.scot/illnesses-and-conditions/brain-nerves-and-spinal-cord/brain-stem-death
Nice link alky...
About NHS inform
NHS inform is Scotland's national health information service.
Our aim is to provide the people in Scotland with accurate and relevant information to help them make informed decisions about their own health and the health of the people they care for.
https://www.nhsinform.scot/about-nhs-inform
No domestic source was available to fit your narrative, eh?
You fucking HACK.
A lie
blocked from 75% to 90%.
The hired team said that but not the doctor who did the autopsy.
https://biologydictionary.net/brain-stem/
The hired team said that but not the doctor who did the autopsy.
That is directly from the autopsy, alky.:
CASE TITLE: CARDIOPULMONARY ARREST COMPLICATING LAW ENFORCEMENT SUBDUAL, RESTRAINT, AND NECK COMPRESSION
DECEASED: George Floyd aka Floyd Perry
SEX: M AGE: 46 DATE AND HOUR OF DEATH: 5-25-20; 9:25 p.m.
DATE AND HOUR OF AUTOPSY: 5-26-20; 9:25 a.m.
PATHOLOGIST: Andrew M. Baker, M.D.
Andrew M. Baker, M.D. Chief Medical Examiner
Signed by: Andrew M. Baker MD In accordance with HCME policy, this report was reviewed by another board-certified forensic pathologist prior to release.
The brain stem- with all its sub-structures- has many important functions in the autonomic nervous system (which will be described in detail in the next section). Specifically, the brain stem plays key roles in the cardiovascular, respiratory, and digestive systems, as well as in other involuntary functions throughout the body.
The brain stem is extremely vital for survival, where losing the neural connections is highly deadly. Medically, brain stem death is an “irreversible loss” in regaining consciousness and the ability to breath.
They are from Beverly Hills California
Roger - Andrew Branca is out today from Legal Insurrection and not providing any opinions.
That being said, Branca is a 20 year veteran in the legal aspects of use of force law and as qualified as anyone to be providing opinion on this case. Your issue with Branca isn't his qualification, but rather he is actually looking at both sides and providing an opinion that is more than a parrot of what the prosecution stated that day.
You seem to do little more than repeat what is stated on direct and then ignore what is being done with cross. Repeat direct, ignore cross, rinse, repeat.
In the photos above, Ch has chosen one that makes it look as if Chavin's knee is resting less heavily on Floyd's neck, in contrast to the NUMEROUS photos that make it look as if his knee is resting VERY heavily on his neck.
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Has the gurney just arrived in Ch's photo, and could that be why Chauin is leaning away?
Reverend...
Obviously you have not been paying attention. Both the State's own use of force witnesses admitted under cross that Chauvin's knee was more on the shoulder and neck "area" than across the neck. They admitted as much after viewing multiple angles including Body Cam video that showed it from multiple angles.
They both admitted under cross that where his knee was was not a "lethal" position. Even the prosecutors started talking about the knee on the "neck area" rather than on the "neck" as they previously had.
So reality James... is that the photos what appear to show the knee right across the neck are the ones that are being misused to provide an incorrect impression of what was really happening.
They are from Beverly Hills California
That's nice alky.
The autopsy I referred to is from Hennepin County MN.
Try reading the fucking thing FOR ONCE.
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