Six members of the Texas delegation have reported testing positive for the coronavirus, and one White House official is also ill. But White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki didn’t say much specifically about that case Tuesday other than to “wish our colleague a speedy recovery.”
The press secretary was asked if there were other breakthrough cases among White House staff, instances were aides still tested positive despite being vaccinated. “There have been,” Psaki answered. And then she explained exactly why she would not tell reporters in the room more: “I will say that according to an agreement we made during the transition to be transparent and make information available, we committed that we would release information proactively if it is commissioned officers. We continue to abide by that commitment.”
As of Tuesday evening, a White House aide was still trying to track down the specifics of that commitment.
But the risk is not the same now, and neither is the coverage — clearly because the vaccine exists and has been readily available. Reporters pushed the White House on Tuesday to say more about who was sick and who wasn’t. But Psaki would not budge, and recent headlines have less to do with an aide at the White House and more to do with President Biden’s efforts to get more of the country vaccinated.
So we have at least eight Democrats who have contracted Covid over the past week or so in or around D.C.. Psaki admits that there are more White House employees that have tested positive, but somehow she cannot say more based on their commitment to transparency. That seems more than a little counterintuitive if one looks at the meaning of transparent.
But the issue appears to be that the Biden Administration feels justified in telling a little white lie by omission. After all, telling the public that vaccinated people around the White House caught Covid will undermine their message that everyone should be vaccinated because the vaccination works. Therefore, they have an obligation to keep quiet? Is that the argument?
Meanwhile we hear competing statistics on the subject. According to some sources (international and otherwise) the split between the non-vaccinated and the vaccinated ending up sick and in the hospital is somewhere in the vicinity of 80-20 as it pertains to the Delta variant. Of course the White House, lead by Anthony Fauci suggest that the number is more in the 99.5 - 0.5 range. Nobody who is vaccinated is getting really sick or dying of the original Covid or the variant.
Meanwhile the CDC has reported over 5500 hospitalizations and deaths from those who are vaccinated. The suggestion from those who claim to know is that about 750 of these resulted in death. Those are just the reported figures and do not include non-hospitalized immunized people who have contracted Covid.
With such competing statistical figures running around out there, who are we to believe? Obviously the Biden Administration would like you to believe them. But wouldn't you suppose it will help a little if the Biden Administration was willing to come clean about their own Covid infections? If they are willing to tell a little white lie of omission to drive a point, then would they also be willing to make a little white statistical lie under that same pretense?
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The evidence seems clear.
If you are vaccinated, which Ch, you yourself are, you stand a far better chance of not having to be hospitialized or of even dying than if you are not vaccinated.
That's why even Mitch McConnell and Sean Hannity and many others, even other Republicans, are strongly advising people to
GET VACCINATED!
But not Ch. He does not fear spreading the kind of misleading information athat can lead to tragedy in people's lives.
I suspect the White House stats and Fauci's are based on total Covid cases from day 1. Very misleading as no vaccine was available.
European statistics are much closer to a 50-50 split between vaccinated and unvaccinated getting Covid
This almost suggests the vaccine is really of no help, though it definitely has some downside, though much is still up in the air.
If you are in a group with little, if any risk, younger people in good health, there really isn't a compelling reason to take on that risk, at least for now.
Old at risk people should be vaccinated. Others should discuss it with their families and their doctor.
Hopefully if you can trust your doctor you can keep your doctor.
And follow his/her advice.
But it it an individual choice. Or should be
Despite the fear mongering and shouts of 'YOU"RE KILLING PEOPLE !!!"
as millions die from different controllable diseases.
Wow Reverend...
You read what I wrote about the White House hiding Covid cases from the public and somehow got the idea that I somehow want to push "misleading information" about the vaccines?
When exactly did the term "misleading" stop being about not being factual?
Telling the truth is not "misleading" Reverend. In fact it's the opposite.
It's "misleading" to hide numbers regarding vaccinated people still catching Covid. The fact that hiding it might work to help convince people to vaccinate (while releasing the information might undermine that argument) doesn't make it any less "misleading".
Or have liberals changed the meaning of the world "misleading".
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Or have liberals changed the meaning of the world "misleading".
Ironically, that's exactly what they've done.
The terms "misleading" and "misinformation" are now defined as anything the Biden* regime disagrees with, or anything that runs counter to the official liberal narrative.
The power to censor, cancel, and de-platform resides with those who have the power to define "misinformation."
We are now sitting squarely in the midst of Orwell's '1984.'
In other news, the US Lesbian Kickball Wokesters got stomped by Sweden 3 - 0.
Nice.
Sewing doubt about the vaccine is causing this horror story.
SANTA ANA, Calif. (CNS) — Orange County's weekly averages for COVID-19 doubled Tuesday, but hospitalizations decreased.
The county's case rate per 100,000 residents increased from 2.6 to 4.9 and the test positivity rate jumped up from 1.8% to 3.3%. The county's Health Equity Quartile rate, which measures the disadvantaged communities hardest hit by the pandemic, increased from 1.9% to 3.4%.
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Much of Orange County is still very conservative and again thousands of people are dying of the Delta variance.
People like you have cost thousands of lives and you don't fucking care.
Rat
It sounds to me as if the idea that vaccinated people are catching the virus (factual or not) is considered "misleading" or "misinformation" because some people will take that information as a reason to say the vaccine is not effective.
Apparently it's not enough to tell the whole truth. That some people who are vaccinated will still catch the virus. But those who are vaccinated and still catch it should get less sick and be less inclined to die from it.
Nope. You have to literally "hide" some of the information because you want to push a narrative that everyone should be vaccinated. Like the country are children who cannot be told the truth, lest they make a poor decision.
We all know that wearing a condom is not 100% effective. But people still wear them. They are smart enough to make those decisions for themselves.
misleading comments like masking is a Democratic hoax has caused thousands of deaths.
misleading information on immunization effectiveness has caused thousands of deaths.
The Delta variance is blocked by the Phyzer and others.
The ICU units across the country are filled with people who refused the immunizations because people like you posted misleading information.
If Trump's father had worn a condom we probably wouldn't have been put through the worst medical crisis in a century.
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misleading comments like masking is a Democratic hoax has caused thousands of deaths.
Too bad the idiotic masks we've been fooling ourselves with don't prevent passage of the RNA through the fabric.
LOL.
Alky, you're a dupe and a hack.
When adjusted for age priority and residential geography, and equally important the quality of the vaccines being distributed and the priority put on delivering first versus second doses, the U.S. is doing as well as anybody. It’s got at least one jab into 65% of the eligible population. The urgent problem now is the unvaccinated developing world.
In all the successful countries, the rate of vaccination falls off partly from an inversion of the no-atheists-in-foxholes rule: When people feel less threatened by the virus, they take fewer precautions. If asked, in their cognitive dissonance they revert to bluster or cite something from the internet. We’re seeing this movie for the fourth time with the Delta variant’s emergence. To its credit, the Times spent 2,000 words on Arkansas vaccine hesitaters without mentioning political party or Donald Trump. Last week, I guesstimated that most countries would be lucky if vaccine compliance reached 80%. The reason is universal: The vaccine is less inviting when case rates are low. This is why those countries that were most successful in keeping Covid out find their citizens least clamoring for the vaccine or pressuring politicians to supply it.
If Trump's father had worn a condom we probably wouldn't have been put through the worst medical crisis in a century.
So Trump was responsible for a Chinese Virus that has killed over four million people world wide.
Oh...wait! I get it!
You are providing a really good example of misleading information.
Or in this case, just an out and out dishonest lie.
He knew how dangerous and easily transmitted virus was, on February 7th in 2020. He refused to release the information before he didn't want to hurt Wall Street.
Warp Speed didn't start until May 15th, three months and 7 days after he knew how dangerous and easily transmitted it was.
That was a dishonest lie.
Oh...wait! I get it!
You are providing a really good example of misleading information.
Or in this case, just an out and out dishonest lie.
The alky has been reduced to plagiarizing the lies of those more clever than he.
This is the sum total of the alky's nursing home existence.
Even if everyone gets immunized, we may have to deal with it for????
We think of immunity as a binary state: without it, we’re vulnerable; with it, we’re safe.
For many pathogens, however, including coronaviruses, immunity is less clear-cut. The coronavirus family includes sars-CoV-2, the virus responsible for covid-19, along with four seasonal coronaviruses—HCoV-229E, HCoV-OC43, HCoV-HKU1, and HCoV-NL63—which together cause an estimated ten to thirty per cent of common colds. Today, these seasonal coronaviruses are the cause of common childhood infections, as measles was in Panum’s time. In sharp contrast to measles, though, adults are reinfected by seasonal coronaviruses every few years.
Much of what we know about these reinfections comes from the Common Cold Unit, a remarkable British research program whose studies of virus transmission and treatment involved more than eighteen thousand human volunteers over the course of forty-four years. In one of the unit’s last studies, published in 1990, fourteen healthy volunteers were exposed to seasonal coronavirus 229E by means of a nasal wash. They returned, a year later, to receive a second, identical dose. Of the nine people who were successfully infected the first time, six were infected again in the second exposure. The five volunteers who’d escaped the virus the first time were all infected, too. The fact of the reinfections might seem alarming, but the volunteers who’d been reinfected had fewer symptoms and were less likely to transmit the virus to others. They weren’t completely immune, but they retained a degree of immunity—low enough to allow for reinfection, but high enough to render the virus less potent.
This murky portrait of coronavirus immunity will shape our future as the U.S. brings covid-19 under control. After getting the virus, the vaccine, or both, at least a hundred and sixty million Americans have acquired some form of immunity. Still, it is likely that the virus itself is here to stay. “I personally think that there’s essentially zero chance that sars-CoV-2 will be eradicated,” Jesse Bloom, a virologist at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, told me. (Bloom advised my Ph.D. research on influenza evolution.) Most viruses, including the four seasonal coronaviruses, other common-cold viruses, and the flu, haven’t been eradicated; scientists describe them as “endemic,” a term derived from the Greek word éndēmos, meaning “in the people.” Endemic viruses circulate constantly, typically at low levels, but with occasional, more severe outbreaks. We don’t shut out these endemic viruses with quarantines and stay-at-home orders; we live with them.
What will it be like to live with endemic sars-CoV-2? That depends on the strength of our immune memories. How vividly will our bodies remember the virus or vaccine? How will waning immunity and the rise of variants—such as Delta, which is currently driving a spike in covid cases around the world—affect our vulnerability to reinfection? We’re beginning to learn the answers to some of these questions, and to get a sense of the years to come.
https://www.newyorker.com/science/annals-of-medicine/coexisting-with-the-coronavirus
That was a dishonest lie.
Shut up alky.
You act like you had a ringside seat to all of the behind the scenes machinations of this administration during the height of the response planning.
All you ever had is the dreck you plagiarized from places like MSDNC, 'Salon' and 'Mommy Jones.'
The most prolific liar of this entire charade has turned out to be Fauci. Completely full of fucking shit from the start to the present day. A demonstrable, despicable liar at a criminal level.
When people feel less threatened by the virus, they take fewer precautions. If asked, in their cognitive dissonance they revert to bluster or cite something from the internet. We’re seeing this movie for the fourth time with the Delta variant’s emergence.
The Delta variance is causing cognitive dissonance when they revert to bluster or cite something from the internet. like alky etc.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/delta-variant-coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-hesitancy-11626816160
The Delta variance is causing cognitive dissonance when they revert to bluster or cite something from the internet. like alky etc.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/delta-variant-coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-hesitancy-11626816160
LMAO.
Yeah, the smart set is taking their corona guidance from the New Yorker.
Those that are stupid enough to do so deserve to die.
Look fuckstick, I see what's going on here. The Biden* regime and the democrats have the shit-fingered Midas touch. Everything from every policy perspective, foreign, domestic, economic, has been a fucking disaster. I know it and they know it. The 2022 mid-term campaign season is closing in, and these asswipes need a distraction. So in conjunction with the MSM it's time for them start cranking up the next round of covid panic porn. And directly related to that is their focus on "misinformation" - read: censoring, silencing, cancelling and de-platforming.
If you think there aren't discussions taking place around the next round of lockdowns, you're the goddamn fool we all know you to be.
The Delta variance is causing cognitive dissonance when they revert to bluster or cite something from the internet. like alky etc.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/delta-variant-coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-hesitancy-11626816160
The Wall Street Journal diagnosed your mind. And Scott Johnson MD!
The Delta variance is MORE contagious and LESS dangerous.
Iow's it's a fucking non-issue if you've been vaccinated. But we need to all go -
"HOE-LEE FARKING SHEET! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!"
When you are confronted with Thecoldheartedtruth you revert to bluster or cite something from the internet. like alky etc.
The Delta variance is causing cognitive dissonance when they revert to bluster or cite something from the internet. like alky etc.
If The right wing media like Thecoldheartedtruth etc. took credit for the vaccine and encouraging millions to get the vaccine, they would look great news robotics pjmedia etc..
So why hasn’t right-wing media gone this route? Probably because there’s such a strong strain of contrarianism built in to the current conservative mind-set: Whatever the establishment says must be wrong.
If the elites — scientists, for example — think it’s good, let’s disparage it as bad.
There’s a calculation here, and a cynical one: It’s better grist for the culture war to oppose vaccination than to be a booster for it. Simply put, it plays better.
Still, one can dream of what could happen if Geraldo’s seed took root.
Crowded vaccination sites, overflowing with red MAGA caps and anti-Biden signs. Charlie Kirk and Marjorie Taylor Greene cheering from the sidelines. Tucker Carlson smiling smugly on screen.
Oh, it would be maddening, of course, to see Trump credited with the solution to a crisis he helped create. But given the alternative — more death, more suffering and the endless spread of disease — I think I could live with it.
And, quite literally, so could thousands of others.
Right-wing media could end the pandemic — without giving an inch in the culture war. Here’s the script.
By Margaret Sullivan
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/right-wing-media-vaccines-coronavirus/2021/07/20/b74befd2-e963-11eb-8950-d73b3e93ff7f_story.html
People like you would quit contributing money because you would feel betrayed by the former!
Vaccination Pleas Intensify, but Skepticism Persists
Some right-wing media outlets have generated mixed coverage in recent days about vaccines. Breitbart News, for instance, still features articles on its website grouped under the category “Mask/Vax Cult.” But Newsmax, a cable network whose opinion shows run further to the right than Fox News, ran an essay on Tuesday by its chief executive, Christopher Ruddy, that praised Mr. Biden’s vaccination efforts.
“I myself have gotten the Pfizer vaccine,” Mr. Ruddy wrote in the piece, which was published on the Newsmax website. “There’s no question in my mind, countless lives would have been saved if the vaccine was available earlier.”
In an interview, Mr. Ruddy said the White House had not contacted Newsmax regarding its coronavirus coverage. He said he wanted to credit Mr. Biden for “doing a good job,” though he also cautioned that his network would not censor alternative views. “I don’t want to be the thought police,” he said.
Fox News has produced its own 30-second vaccine public service announcement, featuring the hosts and anchors Mr. Doocy, Harris Faulkner, Dana Perino and John Roberts. “If you can, get the vaccine,” Ms. Faulkner says in the ad. The anchor Bret Baier said in April that he was “grateful” to be vaccinated. Mr. Hannity and Mr. Doocy have previously told viewers to consider whether a vaccination would be beneficial to their lives and their families.
On Monday’s “Fox & Friends,” Mr. Doocy echoed government officials in noting that nearly all coronavirus deaths now involve unvaccinated people. After acknowledging that some people, such as pregnant women, might be hesitant, he said: “Everybody else, if you have the chance, get the shot.” Mr. Doocy also cited examples of online disinformation claiming the vaccine is “killing lots of people” or “changes your D.N.A.” or comes with “little microchips.”
“None of that is true,” he said.
In prime time, viewers heard a more skeptical message.
Ms. Ingraham argued that vaccine proponents were trying to “frighten or pressure children, again, who face virtually no risk of serious illness.” (More than 16,500 children have been hospitalized with Covid-19 in the United States, and more than 300 have died.) “What about the efficacy of the vaccine itself among adults?” she asked, going on to mention the several vaccinated members of the Texas Legislature who tested positive for the coronavirus over the weekend. (They are experiencing mild or no symptoms.)
“We want everyone to be healthy and safe and have their risk assessment done properly for themselves, for their doctors, all that,” Ms. Ingraham said. “But something’s going on here. Something’s going on here. And all they do is want to attack people who ask questions.”
One of Ms. Ingraham’s guests was Alex Berenson, a former New York Times reporter and an author who, in the early days of the pandemic, argued that its seriousness was overblown by the media. He said characterizing recent outbreaks as “the pandemic of the unvaccinated” was “simply a lie.” (More than 600,000 people in the United States have died because of the virus. The five states with the worst current outbreaks have below-average vaccination rates.)
In his Monday monologue, Tucker Carlson, Fox News’s highest-rated host, told viewers, “We’re not saying there is no benefit to the vaccine — there may well be profound benefits to the vaccine.” He acknowledged that “various vaccines seem to lower the effects of the disease, make it less severe on people,” but he also brought up the Texas cases, saying, “It makes you wonder, how effective are those drugs anyway?”
Already, Fox employees are experiencing at least one benefit of vaccines. Megan Klein, a spokeswoman for the Fox Corporation, said the company was allowing workers who voluntarily confirmed that they were vaccinated to skip wearing masks or social distancing, as local health guidelines permit.
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ICU units are filled with middle aged adults who have refused to be vaccinated because of the skepticism by you know who.
https://dnyuz.com/2021/07/20/on-fox-news-vaccination-pleas-intensify-but-skepticism-persists/
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