Wednesday, August 4, 2021

Biden is now going to extend the eviction moratorium

President admits that it's unconstitutional and likely subject to successful court challenge


How does one even pretend to understand this? The USSC did not officially rule on the legality of the order when originally challenged (because it was coming to an end) but the Kavanaugh authored opinion on the subject made it crystal clear that there was no authority to "extend" the moratorium without Congressional action. But given the typical Roberts manner in which to make every ruling a narrow as possible, the Administration apparently is sort of ignoring the underlying USSC suggestion while openly admitting that a court challenge is imminent and likely will be successful. 

Many people suggested that this was just the sort of thing that President Trump was likely to do. Didn't like a ruling from the USSC, so he would just ignore it. What does it tell us when Biden has stated over and over that he did not have the authority to extend the moratorium (citing that court decision) and then turns around and extends it? He obviously has been provided legal and constitutional advice as to what that USSC court decision meant? When the executive branch refuses to follow the ruling of the judicial branch, then our entire government system of checks and balances no longer exists. 

109 comments:

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Meanwhile relief will come to many.

It's a tactic Trump also used. Do something you know the courts will not support (such as denying the legitimacy of the last election) in order to make political hay as long as you can.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

It's a calculated process, even though it will not survive the court system, it extends the moratorium on evictions until The Congress reconvenes later this month.

It's smart politics


Plus tens of thousands of people will not be on the streets in tents or worse



Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Exactly.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

And it does indeed throw the issue into the lap of Congress.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

meanwhile,
BREAKING
Arkansas Governor REGRETS BANNING MASK MANDATES

August 4, 2021 at 9:53 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
Newsweek:
“Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson (R) said he regrets signing a bill into law that bans state and local government authorities from implementing mask mandates amid a surge in COVID-19 cases in the state.

“Hutchinson said now that cases are increasing in Arkansas, he wishes the ban ‘had not become law.’”
_________

Even GOPers are realizing they had better start coming to their senses.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump probably would have done the same thing and blame the Democrats

rrb said...



Patently unconstitutional, clearly lawless, but who the fuck cares anymore?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Thecoldheartedtruth would have called it smart politics but not anymore

C.H. Truth said...

It's smart politics


And if Donald Trump ignored a USSC ruling after admitting publicly that he had no authority to provide the executive order in question...

The entire media, left, Democrats and everyone else would be in full meltdown mode.

And no, Rog... as a constitutionalist, I would always side with court decisions over any politician. You simply are projecting your own partisanship on this.


It's one thing to make an argument in the media about an election. It's free expression (in spite of liberals demanding that free speech be limited). But Trump never issued any executive orders regarding the election. He never used his authority as President to make any real moves.

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Stephen L. Miller
https://mobile.twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1422830265513086978


This directive from Biden today was pretty much more extreme than anything Obama tried (DACA is arguable but that doesn't affect private landlords*really). His CDC is threatening private property owners with prison. It's off the wall insane.


The Marxists are in charge

And they will do whatever they please

They are now the law

C.H. Truth said...

To be clear...

This is on Kavanaugh (but I blame the whole Robert's feckless inability to ever push the court to make decisions as pushing this behavior and thinking).

The four liberals would have allowed the moratorium till the end of time. Roberts, and the three conservatives said it was unconstitutional.

Kavanaugh split the difference with a concurring ruling (technically with the conservatives on the constitution but with the liberals on the technical ruling).

Kavanaugh suggested that it was unconstitutional and that any extension was unconstitutional, but that since there was only 30 days left it was prudent to allow it to finish and move into the hands of congress. So while saying it was unconstitutional and demanding that any extension would be unconstitutional (basically saying he would rule the other way) he allowed it to continue the remaining 30 days.

Make no mistake. These are the sorts of feckless rulings that end up backfiring in the age of modern day liberalism and their complete disregard for pretty much any laws or constitutional principles that get in their way.

Thus the constant call to rid themselves of that pesky constitution or to pack the court with liberal justices who are willing to ignore it.

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...


And political prisoners remain in solitary confinement in the Capitol

around 7 months and counting

Without access to exculpatory evidence



Joe Biden''s America

we are fucked

C.H. Truth said...

Kavanaugh basically gave Biden and the Democrats a break.

Made it clear he was doing them a favor that wasn't constitutionally warranted.

They spit it back in his face.

Might be a bad move if they expect Kavanaugh to take their side in future rulings. He will remember that you cannot treat Liberals like adults who understand this sort of nuance. You just have to treat them like kids and not allow for any questions.

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...


btw I saw California's new Covid cases were over TWICE as many as any other state.

odd

I thought they were the "gold standard"

maybe this was FAKE NEWS ???

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

C.H. Truth said...
Kavanaugh basically gave Biden and the Democrats a break.

Made it clear he was doing them a favor that wasn't constitutionally warranted.

They spit it back in his face.

Might be a bad move if they expect Kavanaugh to take their side in future rulings. He will remember that you cannot treat Liberals like adults who understand this sort of nuance. You just have to treat them like kids and not allow for any questions.


The court needs to start acting like a real court

before it's too late

C.H. Truth said...

btw I saw California's new Covid cases were over TWICE as many as any other state.

Well you just have to blame the California conservatives.

Because it's not any Democrat at fault here.

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...


Yeah, probably some city in the rural part of the state had the cases triple from 10 to 30.

That must be the reason

C.H. Truth said...

let's be clear about how "smart" this move really is.

The moratorium does not prevent landlords from charging rent and the landlords will eventually have to be paid or these people will be out. All this is doing is allowing people to live within someone else's property, not pay any rent, and the landlord cannot do anything about it. As of today, there is no more financial reason for this to be happening.

The original idea was that Covid created a financial hardship. Now the Administration is saying that evicting them would be a medical hardship (would spread Covid). A ridiculous assertion by any observation.

bottom line - You extend the moratorium, it just ensures that more past due rent will be owed. You are only putting off the inevitable at a cost to landlords, many of which are losing their life savings trying to keep afloat or have already filed bankruptcy after the reduction of income.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Go read 9:24.

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Stephanie Ruhle Reports
VIDEO:
https://mobile.twitter.com/RuhleOnMSNBC/status/1422920681516371972

Schools require students to get vaccinated for other diseases so why is the New York state teacher's union opposing a coronavirus vaccine mandate? American Federation of Teachers President @rweingarten responds.

this is where I saw it, actually on the right side graphic it says in the last 72 hours California has 114,000 new cases, Florida was second with 51,000

but it is MSNBC...

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...


All those California masks have failed again

ROFLMFAO !!!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...
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Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

My last was in response to 9:49 and 9:51.
Also in response to 10:03.
Go read 9:24.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I'm so much in F'n's head he mentions me with every post.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

A far-right conspiracy website founded by the "dumbest man on the internet" fueled many of the conspiracy theories Donald Trump cited in his ongoing efforts to overturn his election loss.

The twice-impeached one-term president pressured Justice Department officials to question the election results as he leaned on various state officials to nullify his losses, according to notes taken at the time by his deputy attorney general, and he chastised law enforcement officials for not reading sites like the discredited Gateway Pundit, reported The Daily Beast.

"You guys may not be following the internet the way I do," Trump told acting attorney general Jeffrey Rosen and deputy attorney General Richard Donoghue in a Dec. 27 phone conversation, according to recently revealed documents.

A former senior White House official and another person with direct knowledge of the situation told The Daily Beast that Trump once handed them a printout from the conspiracy website and asked them track down its ridiculous fraud claim, and they saw him on multiple occasions holding printed-out articles from The Gateway Pundit in the White House, including the Oval Office.

"I didn't really do anything about it," the ex-official said. "I think I threw it out. Maybe I recycled it."

Trump frequently shared dubious online materials with high-ranking officials in the final months of his presidency, but they often discarded or ignored the claims, including foreign interference allegations shared with the ex-president by MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell, who said at the time he tried to share those documents with senior White House staffers.

"Lindell said he showed Trump an article from The American Report, a conspiracy theory website that's fringe even by the standards of Trump's late presidency, that purports to show that China and a host of other entities hacked the election through an analysis of IP addresses," The Daily Beast reported at the time. "But the president seemed just as, if not more, interested in the pictures on the article, rather than the text or the chart."

Trump promoted Gateway Pundit content on his Twitter feed in the weeks ahead of the Jan. 6 insurrection, such as one late-December article that falsely claimed statistical anomalies in Arizona and another article that used the wrong total for nationwide voter participation to claim the vote totals were impossibly high.

In yet another, Trump hyped a Gateway Pundit article featuring claims from a debunked forensic report that was presented as part of a lawsuit in Antrim County, Michigan.

Trump's trade adviser Peter Navarro sent a Gateway Pundit article to Trump's legal team baselessly alleging ties between Venezuela and Dominion Voting Systems, which attorney Sidney Powell infamously cited during a bizarre post-election news conference.

The site has long been derided as inaccurate and unreliable, and Wikipedia included The Gateway Pundit on its list of untrustworthy sources in November 2019 and Twitter suspended the site's account and Hoft's for spreading election misinformation in February.

Thecoldheartedtruth has very little influence since he rolled into the Trump Bunker.



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

James I got into his mind so much that he put a poll on me on his front page!

Commonsense said...

Meanwhile relief will come to many.

Except the small landlord. When do they get relief?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott, He never used his authority as President to make any real moves because the people he appointed refused to overturn the election results


You probably have not read the book about it.

I have posted several examples on here.

Even Rosenstein and General Milly refused to use troops using the Insurrection act.


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Anonymous said...

Unconstitutional = "It's smart politics"

No

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.alternet.org/2021/08/trump-2654434285/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=7592

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Bidenism won yesterday.

CLEVELAND — Shontel Brown, whose campaign highlighted her loyalty to President Joe Biden, won a special election primary Tuesday in Ohio’s 11th Congressional District, a race that commanded national attention while dividing national Democrats along ideological lines.

Brown, whose victory was projected by The Associated Press, defeated Nina Turner, a former state senator known nationally for her work on Sen. Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaigns.


Trumpism also won yesterday in Ohio state where a Trumpist won the special election.



C.H. Truth said...

Hey Rog...

This thread has nothing to do with Trump.

Why can't you stay on topic?

Is it dementia or TDS?

I mean do you forget what we are talking about, or can you just not help turning every thread into something about a guy who has not been President now for over six months?


Either way I feel sorry for you. We all like to keep control of our actions. You obviously cannot.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The landlords are going to have a difficult task. If the Republicans hadn't blocked the legislation to extend the eviction ban, they would have been reimbursed by the President

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott I brought him up because he still lives in your mind. Plus politics are the topic of this blog.

Commonsense said...

said...
It's a calculated process, even though it will not survive the court system, it extends the moratorium on evictions until The Congress reconvenes later this month.
It's smart politics


Not respecting the rule of law is also another reason to never elect a Democrat president again.

Not ever. The danger to the Republic is too great.

Anonymous said...

Really, the Landlords get paid Twice Roger?

They get paid by Biden and also get back rent paid by the Renter?

Anonymous said...

Since you have a command of this subject Roger.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Wall Street Journal made a great point.

The Eviction Ban must eventually end..

Too often ignored are the costs on the other side of the evictions ledger. Renters are facing hardships, but so are landlords. There are about 48 million rental housing units in the U.S., according to a 2018 federal survey. For 42% of them, day-to-day management of the property was performed by either the owner or an unpaid agent. Another 25% had a paid manager who was still “directly employed” by the owner.

There are millions of mom-and-pop landlords who own a house here, a duplex there, a small apartment building two streets down. Some of them are going on a year, or more, without rental income, yet they’re responsible for paying the taxes and the upkeep. A few nightmare stories are trickling out, say, of a woman living in a house with a basement apartment, occupied by abusive tenants who apparently saw the moratorium as impunity.

A group of New York landlords is asking the Supreme Court to take a look at that state’s eviction moratorium. One of the petitioners is a retiree who rents out a co-op as a supplement to her Social Security income. Without $24,720 in unpaid rent, she “has been forced to ask friends for donations to help make ends meet.” Another is a “single mom who was living with her fiancé, broke up with him, and is now effectively homeless.” She would like to move into a rental property that she owns, but it “remains occupied by non-paying holdover tenants.”

And what about the longer term? Many parts of the U.S. face housing shortages, with price inflation that’s already through the vaulted ceiling. The only real solution is to encourage more constructing, more renovating, more renting. But if a landlord has gone a year without income, and Democrats extend that into the foreseeable future, it will undermine the economic incentive to invest in getting new rental units on the market. Why bother?

Not every eviction threat ends in eviction. Tenants can leave on their own, maybe for properties that better fit their budgets. They can work out a payment plan with the landlord. But at some point the housing market must transition back to normality. The U.S. is 11 months from when President Trump’s CDC first issued its eviction moratorium. Democrats would like to extend it, and for who knows how long. What would be the criteria for ever rescinding the policy? Good luck trying to get an answer.

The hard fact is that eventually the rent will come due, and tenants and landlords will have to work it out. If the moratorium is extended, back payments will continue to stack up, and the result will be an even bigger problem when the music finally stops.

The link will follow.

Commonsense said...

Hutchinson said now that cases are increasing in Arkansas,

Cases increase despite lockdowns and mask wearing. The data shows they are ineffective in ptrventing the spread.

Only vaccines are effective in preventing the disease or mitigating the harm. Mask won't keep the delta variety from any more than the original COVID-19.

Hutchinson was correct. As well as the state legislature who would have overturn any veto.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-eviction-ban-has-to-end-sometime-tenants-landlords-joe-biden-nancy-pelosi-11628029263?st=i8xmchffwta4z2n&reflink=share_mobilewebshare

C.H. Truth said...

If the Republicans hadn't blocked the legislation to extend the eviction ban, they would have been reimbursed by the President

A bill was never created, Roger.

Again... making up phantom shit to blame the Republicans?

Anonymous said...

Really, the Landlords get paid Twice Roger?

They get paid by Biden and also get back rent paid by the Renter?

Anonymous said...

Damn , CHT just committed Elder abuse of a shut-in.

"A bill was never created, Roger."

C.H. Truth said...

Wow Roger...

Sounds like the Wall Street Journal agrees with me 100% and with you 0%?

Anonymous said...

To pay Rent/Mortgage it would be helpful if Bidenomics didn't suck.


ADP employment report July 330,000 jobs
Expected Jobs 653,000
Prior Month Jobs 680,000

rrb said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...


Scott I brought him up because he still lives in your mind. Plus politics are the topic of this blog.



LMAO!

Psychologically project much, alky???

Show us where the bad orange man touched you alky.

LOL.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I actually agree with you Scott on this case. Because it's temporary, because when the economy continues to grow the renters will get a job,.

Plus when it ends the people will actually go back to work.

It will end the welfare queen rhetoric.

They will be motivated to get back to work!

If the economy continues to grow, there is no need help from the government.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Plus Scott, it's brilliant performance.

Biden’s novel evictions defense: Maybe it’s illegal, but it’s worth it
By Aaron Blake
August 04 at 8:31 AM PDT
Early last decade, then-President Barack Obama and Congress were in a standoff. Obama badly wanted Congress to pass long-failed comprehensive immigration reform. But allies called for him to do something himself. His repeated response: I can’t. I’m not a “king.” I’m not an “emperor.” The old constitutional law professor wanted to force Congress to do things the old-fashioned, more-robust way. But when Congress continued to stall on these issues, he did something himself anyway — twice. He deferred deportations for groups he had said he didn’t have the power to protect unilaterally.

The lessons of this apparently weren’t learned by his vice president, Joe Biden, and Biden’s new administration. Or, if they were, the lesson was apparently that it was a gambit worth repeating.
But it’s a heck of a way to do the country’s business. And Biden arguably took it even further than Obama.
Amid pressure from congressional liberals including Rep. Cori Bush (D-Mo.), who demonstrated by sleeping outside of the U.S. Capitol for four nights, the Biden administration reversed course Tuesday and moved to effectively extend a pandemic-era eviction moratorium. Just the day before, a top administration official had said they had looked hard and hadn’t found a legal avenue to do such a thing.


The previous moratorium had lapsed a few days previously, and the administration wanted Congress to do something about it. And they had good reason: It appeared that Congress had to do something. That’s because Supreme Court Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh wrote in June that there must be “clear and specific congressional authorization” for extending the moratorium. That language wasn’t in the short emergency order, but Kavanaugh joined with the court’s three more liberal justices and Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. in providing the five votes necessary to keep the moratorium in place at the time.


There is a school of thought that maybe the coronavirus situation has changed enough — especially with the emergence of the delta variant — since Kavanaugh wrote what he did in late June. But even in voting to allow the moratorium to stay in place, Kavanaugh said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had exceeded its authority. He just decided it was more expeditious to let a program that was soon to expire come to its conclusion. CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said around that same time that the extension of the program through the end of July was “intended to be the final extension of the moratorium.”


Others have argued that the new moratorium is more targeted and thus could pass muster — or even that there might be some wiggle room in the Supreme Court’s ruling. Only time will tell.


On topic rrb shut the fuck up.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

By Aaron Blake

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/08/04/bidens-novel-evictions-defense-maybe-its-illegal-its-worth-it/



In fact he is acting like Obama on steroids..

He learned from his experience since he was the youngest Senator in history.

Anonymous said...

Biden is the President (D)
Polosi is Speaker (D)
Schumer Runs the Senate (D)

Yet they get so little done right.

"U.S. Treasury suspends government retirement, health fund payments as debt limit resets".

Anonymous said...

WTO " US leads the World in New Covid Cases"

rrb said...



Because it's temporary, because when the economy continues to grow the renters will get a job,.

Plus when it ends the people will actually go back to work.



Not as long as we're paying them to stay home.

God DAMN you're stupid when it comes to all things economic, alky.

Mortgages on these properties are still expected to be PAID, alky.

Taxes on these properties are still expected to be PAID, alky.

Back rent will still be expected to be PAID, alky.

The extent of any liberal's economic knowledge begins and ends with how to use other people's money to buy votes. Period. That's it. And it's a fucking crime that you've been able to get away with it as long as you have.



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C.H. Truth said...

Roger...

So you just cut and pasted another article that used about 5000 words to explain exactly what I already stated in a couple of paragraphs.

Only difference is I have not heard any real "legitimate" argument that the new extension has a prayer in hell of making it through a court challenge.


So it appears that you have now cut and pasted two different articles to apparently help you understand exactly what I wrote. That it's unconstitutional, will be overturned, and that it's bad policy.

Period.

The only people it appeases are the far left and it does so at the expense of everyone else.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

: “Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson (R) said he regrets signing a bill into law that bans state and local government authorities from implementing mask mandates amid a surge in COVID-19 cases in the state.”

“Hutchinson said now that cases are increasing in Arkansas, he wishes the ban ‘had not become law.’”

Off topic but. Important

rrb said...

By Aaron Blake

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/08/04/bidens-novel-evictions-defense-maybe-its-illegal-its-worth-it/



What a fucking asshole.

Abandoning the US Constitution and the rule of law is "worth it."

Well then... so much for your fucking 'insurrection' bullshit alky.

The Jan 6 rally at the US Capitol was "worth it."

Ta da!

See how this works alky?

Imbecile.

Anonymous said...

The Enemy of the Republic.

"Abandoning the US Constitution and the rule of law is "worth it.""

rrb said...



The only people it appeases are the far left and it does so at the expense of everyone else.

Yep. Hence the unconstitutionality of the move. Which speaks directly to why liberals demand control of the USSC. whether it's this bullshit, the Dreamer bullshit, or any other whim, wish, want or desire that liberals have, they're almost always going to be constitutional on their face, and the only way you get away with this shit is with a liberal court's blessing.

Liberals can never get their agenda passed through the constitutional legislative process. It's always an end run AROUND the law. That's the only way they know how to conduct themselves.


rrb said...

*they're almost always going to be UNconstitutional on their face*

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I said before I posted it.


I responded to you directly!

You don't actually believe that I can think about something like that without reading something like this.

I said yesterday that I thought he was doing that the right thing to extend the moratorium was a smart move, because it extended to October 3rd and the Congress would be back from a August holiday.

Look it up on your blog yesterday afternoon!

I can think for myself.

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Anonymous said...

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Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This morning before I read anything about it.


Roger AmickAugust 4, 2021 at 9:17 AM

It's a calculated process, even though it will not survive the court system, it extends the moratorium on evictions until The Congress reconvenes later this month.

It's smart politics


Plus tens of thousands of people will not be on the streets in tents or worse

I went to eat breakfast then I read both articles ,the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post article.

rrb said...



It's smart politics


So here's where the 0linsky wing of the democrat party has taken the country...

Plainly and patently unconstitutional behavior by the executive branch has become acceptable because it's "smart politics."

Translation - it buys votes.

This is so fucking disgusting at so many levels.



JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...


Roger Amick said...
This morning before I read anything about it.


Roger AmickAugust 4, 2021 at 9:17 AM

It's a calculated process, even though it will not survive the court system, it extends the moratorium on evictions until The Congress reconvenes later this month.

It's smart politics



So the self-professed person who reads both sides of issues to reach a conclusion admits he doesn't

And that he puts politics over the rule of law.

At least here he is being honest.

Have you heard California has by far the largest surge in Covid cases.

Despite your mask mandates over much of the population there.

I hope you didn't remove yours to eat breakfast

rrb said...




So it is now acceptable to completely suspend the property rights of Americans in pursuit of the leftist political agenda.

"Smart politics."

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott, one of the right wing nutcase websites believe that Biden is Lenin!


https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/08/lenins_legacy_of_hatred_.html


The American Thinker is a fucking joke

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

rrb said...



So it is now acceptable to completely suspend the property rights of Americans in pursuit of the leftist political agenda.

"Smart politics."


Well they are suspending the rights of 100's of Americans to push a false political narrative at the Capitol

political prisoners.

It's just a logical next step

And not the last one

C.H. Truth said...

Look it up on your blog yesterday afternoon! I can think for myself.

Well Roger... today you provided a Cut and Paste that agrees that the move by Biden is unconstitutional. You also provided an article from the WSJ that suggested that it is bad policy.

Both of which you suggested that you agreed with.


But you still think it's smart to extend bad policy in an unconstitutional manner.

Why, because someone from WaPo suggested as much.


So how do you reconcile all of this into a coherent thought process, Roger? Because from an outside objective look at what you are doing, it appears as if you are simply agreeing with pretty much everything you cut and paste, even as they are arguing opposite things.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This is temporary.

At one time, women couldn't own property. Or vote!

This is smart politics. But underneath your mind is the negroes are coming to get rid of you because you are white...


Biden is a pretty cagey politician..


JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...


Roger Amick said...The American Thinker is a fucking joke


I wouldn't call Biden an American Thinker

demented - probably

Marxist - maybe

liar with delusions of grandeur - definitely




Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott. Before I read both articles I said this



Roger AmickAugust 4, 2021 at 9:17 AM

It's a calculated process, even though it will not survive the court system, it extends the moratorium on evictions until The Congress reconvenes later this month.

It's smart politics


Plus tens of thousands of people will not be on the streets in tents or worse



After that the I read both articles about it

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Your own words show that you don't think objectively about politics.

The Wall Street Journal reported something and I agreed with him because I can think objectively about politics!

Quit insults, because they go against your guidelines!

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Roger Amick said...
Quit insults, because they go against your guidelines!


CHT discourages:
- reprinting other people's opinion (C&P)


some laws good, others laws better

roger's memory of Animal Farm

Caliphate4vr said...

At one time, women couldn't own property. Or vote!

WTF does that have to do with this?

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Caliphate4vr said...

At one time, women couldn't own property. Or vote!


WTF does that have to do with this?




probably roger's last words he screamed at Lydia



Commonsense said...

Scott, one of the right wing nutcase websites believe that Biden is Lenin!

Well one of the first things Lenin did was confiscate property.

Bet you when he finishes with the rent moratorium he draft an executive order to forgive back rent for tenants.

C.H. Truth said...

You can repeat it till you are blue in the face, Roger...


But explain exactly why (in your own words) it is "smart" to tell the country one day that you cannot do something because it is unconstitutional. Then the next day (after receiving pressure from the far left of the Party) he goes ahead and does it anyways while basically admitting that it is likely going to be overturned?

Not only that...

But most everyone (other than the far left) believe that it is bad policy to begin with and even worse policy now that the economy is back on line. THere is no reason that Covid should be preventing anyone from making a living right now, which was the original pretense for this. That you shouldn't evict people in the middle of an economic crisis because of a pandemic.

Now there is no pretense that these people cannot pay rent because of the economy.


It sounds alot like.

Why?

Because WaPo tole me so!


Not that you have actually put any thought into this.

C.H. Truth said...

Plus tens of thousands of people will not be on the streets in tents or worse

Well they will be tossed out eventually. You cannot just let people live for free forever based on a Government mandate to landlords. The longer it goes on, the more these people will owe and the less likely it is that they will be able to pay it back.

There is no real endgame here Rog.

Even Congress will not be able to just demand landlords provide free rent without any real reason for it. It makes absolutely no sense.

Just putting off the inevitable.

rrb said...



Blogger Roger Amick said...

This is temporary.



Ah... thanks for the clarification alky.

So a "temporary" suspension of the US Constitution is acceptable in pursuit of a liberal agenda designed to buy votes.

This is why you're nothing more than a partisan hack alky. Anything goes as long as it's in line with your partisan political goals. Rule of law be damned.

I'm old enough to remember you running around shrieking that Trump was a totalitarian tyrant discarding the rule of law every day. Of course he did nothing of the sort, but it made your own party's hypocrisy more palatable.





rrb said...



But explain exactly why (in your own words) it is "smart" to tell the country one day that you cannot do something because it is unconstitutional. Then the next day (after receiving pressure from the far left of the Party) he goes ahead and does it anyways while basically admitting that it is likely going to be overturned?

And this was the most hilarious part of all. Dumb Fuck Joe comes right out and admits it's blatantly unconstitutional, and goes ahead and does it anyway.

It should take the USSC about 5 minutes to hand down this ruling.


rrb said...




For more than a year, Vanie Mangal, a physician assistant at a Connecticut hospital, called relatives to tell them that their loved ones were dying of Covid-19, watched as patients gasped their final breaths and feared that she herself would get sick.
Ms. Mangal found no respite from stress when she went home. She is a landlord who rents the basement and first-floor apartments at her home in Queens, and for the past year, conflicts with her tenants have poisoned the atmosphere in her house.
The first-floor tenants have not paid rent in 15 months, bang on the ceiling below her bed at all hours for no apparent reason and yell, curse and spit at her, Ms. Mangal said. A tenant in the basement apartment also stopped paying rent, keyed Ms. Mangal's car and dumped packages meant for her by the garbage. After Ms. Mangal got an order of protection and then a warrant for the tenant's arrest, the woman and her daughter moved out.

All told, Ms. Mangal -- who has captured many of her tenants' actions on surveillance video -- has not only lost sleep from the tensions inside her two-story home but also $36,600 in rental income. "It's been really horrendous," she said. "What am I supposed to do -- live like this?"

...

At the same time, those broad protections have created tremendous financial -- and emotional -- strain for smaller landlords like Ms. Mangal, who often lack the deep pockets to survive without payments. And in New York City, there are a lot of those small landlords: An estimated 28 percent of the city�s roughly 2.3 million rental units are owned by landlords who have fewer than five properties, according to JustFix.nyc, a technology company that tracks property ownership.

Landlords can seek pandemic financial assistance, and the federal government has allocated $46.5 billion for emergency rental relief. But the aid has been slow to flow to property owners, and it comes with certain strings attached: It requires the landlord to allow a tenant to remain and not raise the rent for a year after the aid is received. Ms. Mangal has not applied for those reasons.

Further complicating matters for landlords, their ability to evict unruly tenants has been essentially eliminated by the moratorium.



https://archive.is/ejPEw

rrb said...

REAL ESTATE

‘The eviction moratorium is killing small landlords,’ says one, as ban is extended another month



The one-month extension of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's eviction moratorium was welcome news for tenants but another nail in the coffin for some struggling landlords.

Groups representing landlords had been lobbying hard to end the moratorium and now warn even another month will put some of those landlords out of business.

...

The majority of the nation's landlords are individual investors. They own about 23 million units in 17 million properties, according to the U.S. Census. More than 6 million renter households are behind on rent, also according to the Census. Landlords have next to no recourse.

Howard Simon owns a small building in Massachusetts with three rental units. He hasn't received the rent on one of them since last October and is out about $7,000 so far.

"I have mortgages, I have expenses for repairs to that particular building, I'm losing one-third of the rent just because of this," said Simon. "And you know the other tenants who are occupying the other two units, they're trying their hardest and doing their best."

Simon has contacted the delinquent tenants but said they will not respond, nor will they apply for the aid available to them. While about $34 billion in federal assistance has been distributed to states for back rent and utilities, getting that cash to landlords has been an onerous process because the tenant must be involved.

"In my particular instance the tenant is not cooperating with even completing the application. I'm just a small landlord, and I'm not a big corporation like many of the other large rental organizations, so although the funding is very helpful, if the tenant doesn't cooperate everything falls apart," said Simon.



https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/25/the-eviction-moratorium-is-killing-small-landlords-says-one.html

Anonymous said...

Just WOW.

Roger your inability to answer questions on what you post is breathtaking.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

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Joe Biden: On El Paso shooting anniversary, we must defend America's soul against hateAs we work together to counter the forces of violent hatred, we must also commit to ending the plague of gun violence that steals innocent lives.

Joe Biden

Opinion contributor

To the families of the 23 souls lost on this day two years ago in El Paso, Jill and I send you our love. While our losses are not the same as yours, grief is universal. We know the pain of today may still feel as fresh as it was when you first heard the news, knowing all that you lost can never be replaced.

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For the loved ones left behind, it has been two years of pain thinking of big and small things. The goals he won’t have the chance to score on the soccer field. The young infant who is now walking but without his parents holding his hand with pride – parents who showed the ultimate act of love and bravery. There is the pain of two years of birthdays and holidays, family dinners, and church services that have never been the same. There is the pain of being unable to continue to commemorate, grieve, and heal together due to a pandemic that has taken so much from us all.

You lost educators and a bus driver. Grandparents and grandchildren. Americans and Mexicans and a German citizen. Families just out running errands. Each a life of meaning and potential and part of what makes El Paso strong. As hard as it is to believe, I want you to know that the day will come when the memory of the one you lost will bring a smile to your lips before it brings a tear to your eye. That day will come, and my prayer for you is that it comes sooner rather than later.

To the broader community of El Paso – we continue to be in awe of your courage and resilience. On that day, you showed who we are at our best as Americans.

And to the country, this somber day is a reminder of the unfinished work to heal the soul of this nation. Two years ago, a gunman armed with rage and rifle targeted the people of El Paso, and our most deeply held American values. He chose this city defined by its diversity that celebrates its rich Hispanic heritage and connection with the people of Ciudad Juárez.



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Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He thought that his hatred of immigrants could prove more powerful than the culture and vibrancy of the people of this community. He was wrong. Yet America’s intelligence community has confirmed what the people of El Paso know all too well: the most lethal terrorist threat to our homeland in recent years has been domestic terrorism rooted in white supremacy.  We cannot ignore it.  We must confront the spread of hate-fueled violence in every form.

To that end, in June my administration laid out our country’s first-ever comprehensive effort to tackle the threat posed by domestic terrorism. We are doing so by taking action to reduce online radicalization and recruitment to violence. We’re also disrupting the networks that inspire such violence by domestic terrorists and hate groups and providing resources to communities to build resilience.

As we work together to counter the forces of violent hatred, we must also commit to ending the plague of gun violence that steals innocent lives and continues to devastate our communities. I will continue to do everything I can to fight for commonsense gun laws that Americans overwhelmingly support and I call again on Congress to do what we know will make a difference, including a ban of weapons of war — assault weapons and high-capacity magazines like the one that ravaged and pierced this city. And, I will continue to act to reduce gun crime using existing authority — ranging from reining in the proliferation of “ghost guns” to investing in community policing and community violence interventions that can save countless lives.

In the days after the shooting, I said we must join together as Americans and stand united against hate and violence. I believe that with even greater resolve and urgency today. We must all work together to defend our values, our democracy, and our freedom to live together peacefully.  We owe it to the families of El Paso. We owe it to each other and for the soul of our very country.

May God bless the 23 souls lost on this day in El Paso and their loved ones left behind.

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rrb said...




That's all you ever have alky -

the opinions of OTHERS.

Indy was right - You ARE a FUCKING MORON.


Anonymous said...

Roger, the number of guns owned in the USA is about the same as in 1970's.

Percent of home with gun ownership.

1972. 43%
2020. 42%

Yet, life is of little value to so many.
Why is that Roger?

Caliphate4vr said...

Now that Alky has beaten bloody about subsidies. Change the topic

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I just finished lunch after working out at the gym today.

I see something else to discuss


FYI… Republican leaders and journalists betray a fundamental understanding of what the First Amendment actually says. Have they even read it?

The First Amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

That’s it. That’s the entire First Amendment.

Free speech is what’s known as a negative right — essentially, the government has no business interfering with the words you say, so long as they don’t cause harm. The government cannot infringe on your right to say whatever you want.
Not other people. Not private companies. The government.
If you call me a mean name on social media, you’re not violating free speech. If I block you from contacting me, I am not violating your free speech. If the social media company suspends your account, they’re not violating your free speech.
But, if the FBI hacks your account and starts deleting posts — that is a clear violation of the First Amendment. Or, say, if police officers routinely shoot tear gas and rubber bullets at reporters without cause.
When Tucker Carlson blames Google for stifling free speech, he is making a fatal error. Google, as an independent company, has no obligation to promote certain forms of ads or words on its platform — if someone wants to advertise something hateful on the website, Google can say ‘no’. That’s not a violation of free speech.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

On topic although it is probably unconstitutional but it will keep thousands of the streets in tents.


But you of course ignore that the former President Trump tried to overturn the Constitution of the United states of America.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Off the streets

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I'm hoping that the President will get the economy back in shape and we won't need to block evictions


rrb said...




But you of course ignore that the former President Trump tried to overturn the Constitution of the United states of America.


How exactly.?

Be specific and take your time, alky.

Those copy/pastes don't write themselves.

rrb said...




And I'm old enough to remember that just six months ago, Biden* swore an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution.

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Roger Amick said...
If you call me a mean name on social media, you’re not violating free speech. If I block you from contacting me, I am not violating your free speech. If the social media company suspends your account, they’re not violating your free speech.


I see alky still doesn't understand section 230

and at this point never will

but he still posts around it without even realizing it



He's got whatever Biden has got

Anonymous said...

Roger had his shoit rubbed on his nose
Like the dumb mutt he is over the "It's smart politics" to purposely violate the US Constitution.

Commonsense said...

And I'm old enough to remember that just six months ago, Biden* swore an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution.

I'm old enough to remember when breaking your oath was an impeachable offense.

Commonsense said...
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Commonsense said...

I'm also old enough to remember when political partIes didn't put up senile old men as President of the United States.

I also remember when people were not foolish enough to vote for such a person.

Commonsense said...

If the social media company suspends your account, they’re not violating your free speech.

They are violating you right to free speech. If the media company is acting as publishers then they can be sued for libel. They cannot exercise there right to censure (within reasonable bounds) without being a publisher. If they are acting as an agent of the government then they are violating the first amendment.

rrb said...

Blogger KansasDemocrat said...

Roger had his shoit rubbed on his nose
Like the dumb mutt he is over the "It's smart politics" to purposely violate the US Constitution.



He's just a hack, and a predictable one at that.

An unconstitutional suspension of property rights is "smart politics."

That's the stupidest fucking thing I've heard yet today, and I live in NY under the rule of Killer Cuomo. Grabbing fannies and killing grannies.

C.H. Truth said...

And I'm old enough to remember that just six months ago, Biden* swore an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution.

He had his fingers crossed!

C.H. Truth said...

They are violating you right to free speech. If the media company is acting as publishers then they can be sued for libel. They cannot exercise there right to censure (within reasonable bounds) without being a publisher. If they are acting as an agent of the government then they are violating the first amendment.

I think it's way past time explaining the laws of public forum's to Roger. You could hit him over the head with a 2 by 4 of the argument. He would simply get back up and insist the argument doesn't exist.

I mean the guy cannot even remember Section 230 and keeps referring to it as section 320. He will go to his grave not understanding the difference between a public forum and a publisher.

Because he simply refuses to hear or retain the information.

Caliphate4vr said...

Because he simply refuses to hear or retain the information.

Willful stupidity

Anonymous said...

The Science of Natural Immunity.

Why does Socialist ever factor that in?

Anonymous said...

Wasn't New York Begging for Business to return?

"New York Cancels Auto Show"

Oh well.

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

KansasDemocrat said...
Wasn't New York Begging for Business to return?


Listen to this GREAT VIDEO on New York:

https://mobile.twitter.com/MattBraynard/status/1422785765990404096

It's worth listening to all the way to the end.

And he's completely right

And it applies much further than just New York

Biden should listen to him