Sunday, August 15, 2021

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106 comments:

anonymous said...

Sad how the right were applauding the news that the vaccine in Iceland was a failure....Once again, Lill Schitty prematurely ejaculated his bias and again proved to be wrong......BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/iceland-covid-surge-vaccines/2021/08/14/bdd88d04-fabd-11eb-911c-524bc8b68f17_story.html

The island nation that has been praised for its coronavirus response and its world-leading vaccination rate is now seeing its highest levels of infection since the start of the pandemic.
Just one month after the government scrapped all covid-19 restrictions, masks, social distancing and capacity limits have returned. And U.S. authorities last week warned Americans to stay away.

Vaccine opponents have gleefully pointed to Iceland as proof that the shots are a “failure.” But contrary to online misinformation and conspiratorial social media posts, infectious-disease experts say Iceland’s outbreak actually illustrates how effective the vaccines are at preventing the virus’s most severe impacts.
Many of the country’s recent infections have occurred among vaccinated people, but they’ve been overwhelmingly mild. So even as new cases multiplied, Iceland’s rates of covid-19 hospitalizations and deaths have remained low. Of the 1,300 people currently infected, just 2 percent are in the hospital. The country hasn’t recorded a virus death since late May.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Taliban Enters Kabul
August 15, 2021 at 7:46 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 45 Comments
“Taliban fighters
entered Kabul on Sunday and sought the unconditional surrender of the central government, officials said, as Afghans and foreigners alike raced for the exit, signaling the end of a 20-year Western experiment aimed at remaking Afghanistan,” the Washington Post reports.

“The beleaguered central government meanwhile sought an interim administration, but increasingly had few cards to play. Civilians fearing that the Taliban could reimpose a brutal rule that all but eliminated women’s rights rushed to leave the country, lining up at cash machines to withdraw their life savings. Helicopters buzzed overhead, some apparently evacuating personnel at the U.S. Embassy.”

Wall Street Journal:
“The stunning meltdown of the Afghan state left the city in shock. The Taliban, who controlled none of Afghanistan’s 34 provincial capitals just over a week ago, have seized the bulk of the country and are now readying to assume power.”

Taegan Goddard says:
Keep in mind that this will be documented by the media in a way not possible during the fall of Saigon.


More Than 400 U.S. Counties Are Majority Non-White
August 15, 2021 at 7:45 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
“White, non-Hispanic Americans
now account for less than six in 10 people in the U.S. — a more precipitous drop over the past decade than experts expected — and they’re no longer the racial-ethnic majority in 13% of U.S. counties,” Axios reports.


U.S. Developing Plan for Booster Shots
August 15, 2021 at 7:36 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
New York Times:
“With a stockpile of at least 100 million doses at the ready, Biden administration officials are developing a plan to start offering coronavirus booster shots to some Americans as early as this fall even as researchers continue to hotly debate whether extra shots are needed.”


U.S. Pandemic Death Toll Rises Again
August 15, 2021 at 7:34 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
Associated Press:
“The COVID-19 death toll has started soaring again as the delta variant tears through the nation’s unvaccinated population and fills up hospitals with patients, many of whom are younger than during earlier phases of the pandemic.

“The U.S. is now averaging about 650 deaths a day, increasing more than 80 percent from two weeks ago and going past the 600 mark on Saturday for the first time in three months.”


Biden’s Credibility Has Been Shredded In Afghanistan
August 15, 2021 at 6:51 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
Gideon Rachman:
“If Donald Trump were presiding over the debacle in Afghanistan, the US foreign policy establishment would be loudly condemning the irresponsibility and immorality of American strategy. Since it is Joe Biden in the White House there is instead, largely, an embarrassed silence.

“It is true that Trump set the US on the path out of Afghanistan and began the delusional peace talks with the Taliban that have gone nowhere.

"But rather than reverse the withdrawal of troops, Biden accelerated it. The horrific results are unfolding on the ground in Afghanistan, as the Taliban take city after city. The final collapse of the government looks inevitable. It may come just in time for the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks that originally led to the US-led invasion of Afghanistan.”


Covid-19 Hospitalizations for Those In 30s Hits Record
August 14, 2021 at 5:23 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard
“Hospitalizations of Covid-19 patients in their 30s have hit a new record, a sign of the toll that the highly contagious Delta variant is taking among the unvaccinated,” the Wall Street Journal reports.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

It's not funny

25 min ago
Top US negotiator asks Taliban to remain outside Kabul until US personnel are out
From CNN's Kylie Atwood

The US Special Representative for Afghanistan Zalmay Khalilzad has requested that Taliban fighters not enter Kabul until the US citizens are evacuated, according to a source familiar with the discussions.

The Taliban is currently in talks with "the opposing side" for a peaceful surrender of the capital and are telling their fighters to be on standby on the edges of the city as they seek a calm transfer of power, a Taliban spokesperson said on Sunday.

CNN reported earlier that representatives of the Taliban’s Qatar talks delegation are currently inside the presidential premises.

The US has sped up the evacuation of its embassy in Kabul and hopes to complete the process within the next 72 hours.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Disinformation from Scott's hero in on April 18th


Former President Trump said President Biden's decision to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," but criticized the timeline and said the U.S. "should get out earlier."

Hypocrisy award for S. Scott Johnson

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

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rrb said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

It's not funny

25 min ago
Top US negotiator asks Taliban to remain outside Kabul until US personnel are out
From CNN's Kylie Atwood


Yes it is alky. It's fucking hilarious. You have to have a heart of stone not to laugh at Slow Joe an da Ho. Because every single thing they touch turns to complete shit.

Afghanistan just being the latest is a long line of clusterfucks.

LMAO.

Welcome back Carter.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The only one with a Democratic government is Nevada

-1%

Versus Florida +66%

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Former President Trump said President Biden's decision to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," but criticized the timeline and said the U.S. "should get out earlier."

rrb said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
HOSPITALIZED
DAILY AVG. PER
100,000 14-DAY
CHANGE



Where did you plagiarize this data alky? And these numbers are from when exactly?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

No, the one that's really hilarious is this one:

April 18th
Former President Trump said President Biden's decision to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," but criticized the timeline and said the U.S. "should get out earlier."

rrb said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

Former President Trump said President Biden's decision to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan



Nice try drunkard.

Trump has nothing to do with this disaster. This is on booger eater Joe 100%.

Thank goodness he's on vacation. Imagine how much worse it could be if he was actually working 2 - 3 hours per day.

LOL.

anonymous said...

YOU DUMBASS LOSER....THOSE NUMBERS ARE NOT PLAGIARIZED....WHNE WILL YOU LEARN WHAT THAT WORD MEANS SINCE IT APPARENTLY ELUDES YOU!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!! BTW.....THE GOOGLE MACHINE PROVIDES LOTS OF SOURCES THAT CONFIRM THAT....IDIOT!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

No matter who would have been President, the same thing would have happened.

If there is a consistent theme over two decades of war in Afghanistan, it is the overestimation of the results of the $83 billion the United States has spent since 2001 training and equipping the Afghan security forces and an underestimation of the brutal, wily strategy of the Taliban.

The Pentagon had issued dire warnings to President Biden even before he took office about the potential for the Taliban to overrun the Afghan Army. But intelligence estimates indicated that it might happen in 18 months, not within weeks.

Commanders did know that the afflictions of the Afghan forces had never been cured: the deep corruption, the failure by the government to pay many Afghan soldiers and police officers for months, the defections, the soldiers sent to the front without adequate food and water, let alone arms.

Mr. Biden’s aides say that the persistence of those problems reinforced his belief that the United States could not prop up the Afghan government and its military in perpetuity. In Oval Office meetings this spring, he told aides that staying another year, or even five, would not make a substantial difference and was not worth the risks.

In the end, an Afghan force that did not believe in itself and a U.S. effort that Mr. Biden, and most Americans, no longer believed would alter events combined to bring an ignoble close to America’s longest war. The United States kept forces in Afghanistan far longer than the British did in the 19th century, and twice as long as the Soviets — with roughly the same results.

For Mr. Biden, the last of four American presidents to face painful choices in Afghanistan but the first to get out, the debate about a final withdrawal and the miscalculations over how to execute it began the moment he took office.

“Under Trump, we were one tweet away from complete, precipitous withdrawal,” said Douglas E. Lute, a retired general who directed Afghan strategy at the National Security Council for Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama.

“Under Biden, it was clear to everyone who knew him, who saw him pressing for a vastly reduced force more than a decade ago, that he was determined to end U.S. military involvement,” Mr. Lute added, “but the Pentagon believed its own narrative that we would stay forever.”

He continued, “The puzzle for me is the absence of contingency planning: If everyone knew we were headed for the exits, why did we not have a plan over the past two years for making this work?”


____

The Afghanistan government and army have never been competent.

If Trump had been elected and withdrawn from Afghanistan the exact same thing would have happened.


And I don't think that the Democrats would have been as fucking crazy about it publicly.


anonymous said...


Trump has nothing to do with this disaster.


BWAAAAAAAAA!!! HIS FOR SHIT DEAL WITH NO TEETH SURE DID NOT HELP!!! Again, rat, the google machine has lots of discussions on trumps awful deal.......

https://time.com/5794643/trumps-disgraceful-peace-deal-taliban/

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

This makes it even funnier:

rrb said
Nice try drunkard. Trump has nothing to do with this disaster.
_____

April 18th
Former President Trump said President Biden's decision to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," but criticized the timeline and said the U.S. "should get out earlier."

rrb said...



THOSE NUMBERS ARE NOT PLAGIARIZED.


Until I see a source link BWAA, those numbers will remain plagiarized.

I have no idea where they came from and neither do you. And the alky, not able to type an original thought around here EVER, had to get them from somewhere other than his own alcohol-soaked cranium.



rrb said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

No matter who would have been President, the same thing would have happened.



The logical next tactic in trying to blame-share the Shithole-istan disaster.

LOL.

Nice try alky. The last time I checked Trump was playing golf at a luxurious resort.

This is all on Stairmaster Joe.

ALL OF IT.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Was Trump's quote above "plagiarized," rrb?

knee slapping hilrious

rrb said...



Hey BWAA, got any propaganda newer than - MARCH 3, 2020 12:25 PM EST

Todays' date, for those who seem to need to be told, is August 15, 2021.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He's at Camp David.

Used by every President for a century or so

rrb said...



Trump's quote is not relevant, nor is it "hilrious" whatever the fuck THAT means, pederast.

Don't you have some young boys to recruit for the North American Man-Boy Lincoln Association?



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The best analysis is from
https://www.wsj.com/articles/afghanistan-army-collapse-taliban-11628958253?st=cx8cp77iadc9mp6&reflink=share_mobilewebshare

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Trump's quote is "not relevant," rrb says,
and has me laughing again.

Trump said the ONLY thing Biden did wrong is
HE SHOULD HAVE WITHDRAWN SOONER.

Still laughing.

anonymous said...

BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!1 Hey dumb fuck....is trump POTUS 8/15/21??????? Or did you not understand that trumps legacy from Afghanistan was written in 2020?????? God you make a box of rocks look smart....LOLOLOL



Until I see a source link BWAA, those numbers will remain plagiarized.

BWAAAAAAAAA!!! The patently lazy asshole does not know how to use the google machine!!!!!!! All you got is stupid!!!!!

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

JamesNewLeaf said...
No, the one that's really hilarious is this one:

April 18th
Former President Trump said President Biden's decision to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," but criticized the timeline and said the U.S. "should get out earlier."

So the idiot-in-chief held up the withdrawal and ties to conditions on the ground, allowed for the Taliban to plan and plan, then did a "withdrawal" that left the Taliban prepared and able to wipe out any resistance when Americans left.

Americans deserted bases in the middle of the night and without warning, on others they left sensitive drones and other military equipment, and allowed the Taliban to do a planned, timed takeover.

What a fucking mess

and Biden goes on vacation



I don't think that is hilarious

But boy are we fucked

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Despite 20 years of money and training programs they collapsed completely in a few weeks.


KABUL—The Afghan government outpost in Imam Sahib, a district of northern Kunduz province, held out for two months after being surrounded by the Taliban. At first, elite commando units would come once a week on a resupply run. Then, these runs became more scarce, as did the supplies.

“In the last days, there was no food, no water and no weapons,” said trooper Taj Mohammad, 38. Fleeing in one armored personnel carrier and one Ford Ranger, the remaining men finally made a run to the relative safety of the provincial capital, which collapsed weeks later. They left behind another 11 APCs to the Taliban.

Taj Mohammad, 38, served in a local police unit for 9 years, but fled when the Taliban overtook Imam Sahib, part of a wider collapse of the state’s forces.PHOTO: VICTOR J. BLUE FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

As district after district fell in this summer’s Taliban offensive, without much visible support from the Afghan national army and police forces, other soldiers simply made the calculation that it wasn’t worth fighting anymore—especially if the Taliban offered them safe passage home, as they usually did.

“Everyone just surrendered their guns and ran away,” said Rahimullah, a 25-year soldier who joined the army a year ago and served in the Shahr-e-Bozorg district of northeastern Badakhshan province. “We didn’t receive any help from the central government, and so the district fell without any fighting.”

Afghanistan’s national army and police forces, theoretically numbering 350,000 men and trained and equipped at huge cost by the U.S. and Western allies, were supposed to be a powerful deterrent to the Taliban. That is one reason why President Biden, when he announced in April his decision to withdraw all American forces from Afghanistan, expressed confidence in the Afghan military’s ability to hold ground.

But he was not wrong again because the armed forces collapsed by their own fault even after 20 years under 4 Presidents

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Plus we will not be burying our soldiers for an unwinnable war.

rrb said...



Trump's quote is "not relevant," rrb says,
and has me laughing again.


That's nice, pederast. Trump is not president, the paste eater you guys installed in the white house is.

As with Covid, Afghanistan is Slow Joe's situation to deal with now.

LOL.

Good thing he's on vacation for two weeks. He'll need to rest up so he can deal with this when he returns.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

President's have to make very difficult decisions. This one will not cost billion or dollars and again the lives of our brave soldiers who are not suckers and losers.

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...




VERY lo iq said:

BWAAAAAAAAA!!! The patently lazy asshole does not know how to use the google machine!!!!!!! All you got is stupid!!!!!



Is this the same VERY lo iq who uses his untrustworthy "google machine" to claim he researched and there was only "i" (I think he meant 1) vaccine death when at the time there were already over 6,000 ?

THAT idiot ?

and the examples abound...





anonymous said...

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html Amazing how easy this was to find....even you could if you could think instead of acting like a jerk!!!!......BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

11.
36,268,057
Total Cases Reported
114,190
Current 7-Day Average*
96,454
Prior 7-Day Average
+18.4%
Change in 7-Day Average since Prior Week
*Historical cases are excluded from daily new cases and 7-day average calculations until they are incorporated into the dataset for the applicable date. Of 90,975 historical cases reported retroactively, 10,385 were reported in the current week and 2,809 were reported in the prior week.

Daily Trends in COVID-19 Cases in the United States Reported to CDC

red line
7-Day moving average

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The President is at Camp David and he is not playing golf.

He has everything he needs there Jimmy Hitler Jr.

anonymous said...

stworthy "google machine" to claim he researched and there was only "i" (I think he meant 1) vaccine death when at the time there were already over 6,000 ?


BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Never said I researched it but sure would like a link for your 6000!!!!!!!!!!

rrb said...


LOL:

Mark Milley is furiously paging through his dog-eared copy of Robin DiAngelo's White Fragility looking for a solution to Afghanistan.

https://twitter.com/neontaster/status/1426517370848391168

anonymous said...

Your 6k is BULLSHIT ASSHOLE!!!

https://api.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/aug/09/tiktok-posts/no-truth-vaers-system-shows-6000-died-because-covi/

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Roger Amick said...
President's have to make very difficult decisions.




This one decided to put a woke general in charge, take his eye off the ball and delayed a phased planned withdrawal with an unorganized one that almost appears aligned to a Taliban takeover


and then goes on vacation


While Covid is raging on and the border is flooding over

Building the Taliban Back Better

boy are we fucked

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

It's all over the news coverage

KABUL — The Taliban entered Afghanistan's capital, Kabul, on Sunday to negotiate a "peaceful surrender" of the city, a spokesman for the group said.

Three Afghan officials told the Associated Press that the Taliban were in the districts of Kalakan, Qarabagh and Paghman. NBC News could not independently verify this claim.

It came as U.S. forces rushed to evacuate all staff from the city's American embassy after President Joe Biden authorized the deployment of 5,000 troops.

The embassy will be closing once all personnel are transferred out and there have been intense negotiations with the Taliban for safe passage, a person familiar with the situation told NBC News. Helicopters could be seen flying in and out of the compound on a regular basis.

rrb said...


Very well said, Mr. Taibbi...


He extended middle fingers in all directions: to his Vineyard neighbors, the rest of America, Biden, the hanger-on ex-staffers who’d stacked years of hundred-hour work weeks to build his ballyhooed career, the not quite A-listers bounced at the last minute for being not famous enough (sorry, Larry David and Conan O’Brien!), and so on. It’d be hard not to laugh imagining Axelrod reading that even “Real Housewife of Atlanta” Kim Fields got on the party list over him, except that Obama giving the shove-off to his most devoted (if also scummy and greedy) aides is also such a perfect metaphor for the way he slammed the door in the faces of the millions of ordinary voters who once so desperately believed in him.

Obviously, getting rich and not giving a shit anymore is the birthright of every American. But this wasn’t supposed to be in the script for Obama, whose remarkable heel turn has been obscured by the Trump years, which incidentally were at least partly his fault. The history books and the still-starstruck press will let him skate on this, but they shouldn’t.

Obama was set up to be the greatest of American heroes, but proved to be a common swindler and one of the great political liars of all time — he fooled us all. Moreover, his remarkably vacuous post-presidency is proving true everything Trump said in 2016 about the grasping Washington politicians whose only motives are personal enrichment, and who’d do anything, even attend his wedding, for a buck. Trump’s point was that he, Trump, was already swinishly rich, while politicians have only one thing to sell to get the upper class status they crave: us.

Obama did that. He sold us out, and it’s time to start talking about the role he played in bringing about the hopeless cynical mess that is modern America.



https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-vanishing-legacy-of-barack-obama

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Wall Street Journal reports that the Chinese government has the biggest risk !

But a post-American Afghanistan also threatens Chinese interests outside Pakistan. For many years Beijing benefited from the U.S. military presence in Afghanistan. China pushed ahead with its Belt and Road plans in Central Asia because the U.S. was ensuring that violence was contained within Afghanistan. In March Beijing announced that it would invest as much as $400 billion in Iran over 25 years in anticipation that a new nuclear deal would open Iran for business.

The U.S. decision to withdraw from Afghanistan has plunged China’s business plans in the region into uncertainty. Each of these Chinese projects is at risk of the violence radiating out of Afghanistan. And China isn’t alone in scrambling for solutions. This week Russian troops conducted joint exercises with forces from Tajikistan and Uzbekistan on their borders with Afghanistan. But China has far more at stake than Russia, and unlike the Kremlin the People’s Liberation Army has never deployed a multidivisional force to maintain security beyond its borders.

China doesn’t have good options. It will work with Pakistan, Iran, Russia and the Central Asian nations to limit the disruption of its economic interests by the Afghan chaos. But each of these nations will be struggling to protect its own interests. This is why we see the Chinese enhancing their diplomatic ties with the Taliban. On Thursday U.S. News reported that China is prepared to recognize a Taliban regime even if it takes the country over militarily. This is in sharp contrast with the position of most other international and regional players, which have made clear that they would recognize a Taliban-dominated government only if it is formed as part of a negotiated settlement.

As we have seen in so many situations during the past two decades in places like Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen and Libya, regime change is a terribly messy process. Weak regimes can be toppled; replacing them is the hard part. It is only a matter of time before the Afghan state collapses, unleashing chaos that will spill beyond its borders. All of Afghanistan’s neighbors will be affected to varying degrees, but Pakistan and China have the most to lose.


Neither one is our allies!


JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem.
...
Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 351 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through August 9, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 6,631 reports of death (0.0019%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

well they've changed their wording... wonder why.

And I know they have promoted that high profile deaths such as Hank Aaron and Marvin Hagler were NOT from the vaccine. Though they both died shortly afterwards and were in good health.

but go along being led by the nose VERY lo iq

It is what you are good at

ROFLMFAO !!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Looking at it from that perspective, since China is far more dangerous to the U.S. than any other country, the underlying decision seems rather brilliant.


JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Obama was set up to be the greatest of American heroes, but proved to be a common swindler and one of the great political liars of all time — he fooled us all. Moreover, his remarkably vacuous post-presidency is proving true everything Trump said in 2016 about the grasping Washington politicians whose only motives are personal enrichment, and who’d do anything, even attend his wedding, for a buck. Trump’s point was that he, Trump, was already swinishly rich, while politicians have only one thing to sell to get the upper class status they crave: us.

Obama did that. He sold us out, and it’s time to start talking about the role he played in bringing about the hopeless cynical mess that is modern America.



Obama fucked America over

and is laughing at the peons from his lavish mansions and vacation retreats

and the clueless still cling to him

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...


Roger Amick said...
Looking at it from that perspective, since China is far more dangerous to the U.S. than any other country, the underlying decision seems rather brilliant.



If you think the Taliban are a threat to China you are a bigger idiot than I thought you were

and calling that "brilliant"

someone is gaslighting you in epic proportions

and I wonder what the Taliban is going to do with those state-of-the-art drones Americans left behind for our enemies to reverse engineer ?

The phone to China is probably already ringing

"brilliant"

rrb said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

Looking at it from that perspective, since China is far more dangerous to the U.S. than any other country, the underlying decision seems rather brilliant.



LOL... hilarious.

"It's brilliant because China!"

You think China is fazed by this in the least, alky?

China murders it's own citizens for fun, and has murdered tens of millions.

China will get whatever the fuck they want out of Afghanistan because they will be willing to take it by any means necessary.

The Taliban has nothing to fear from the US, but China should concern them.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

China is threatened by the Taliban militants.

So President Biden is doing the same thing again China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China China Virus
China Virus China Virus

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/afghanistan-withdrawal-biden-pakistan-taliban-russia-china-belt-and-road-cpec-economic-corridor-11628868392?st=7cdj8hfsgzw8afx&reflink=share_mobilewebshare

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Tom Pappert
https://gab.com/realGodEmperorTrump/posts/106755924771294095


Weird how there's no stories about unvaccinated Taliban fighters being stopped in their tracks by covid


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/afghanistan-withdrawal-biden-pakistan-taliban-russia-china-belt-and-road-cpec-economic-corridor-11628868392?st=7cdj8hfsgzw8afx&reflink=share_mobilewebshare

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/afghanistan-withdrawal-biden-pakistan-taliban-russia-china-belt-and-road-cpec-economic-corridor-11628868392?st=7cdj8hfsgzw8afx&reflink=share_mobilewebshare

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Kanekoa
https://gab.com/KanekoaTheGreat/posts/106756717951615347

Starting on Monday, New York City will ban 40% of their residents and 70% of their black residents from participating in indoor dining, indoor fitness, and indoor entertainment.

Unfortunately, these residents did not want to take an experimental mRNA gene therapy with an unknown long term safety profile.

Perhaps, these residents didn't trust our health institutions compromised by the billions being made every month by their big pharma sponsors.

Or, maybe, they understood that the so called "vaccine" does not stop infection, transmission, hospitalization, or death.

Some may have even seen the record number of adverse advents and deaths be ignored by the corporate media.

Others may have weighed the risk-to-reward of a virus with a 99.98% chance of survival for people below the age of 50.

Many may have already developed robust natural immunity.

Regardless, they all will be banished from public society in New York City starting on Monday.

Segregation is back.

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Election Wizard

HUGE RALLY VIDEO:
https://twitter.com/ElectionWiz/status/1426521402178478082

PARIS: Nearly 200 protests against the government’s vaccine passport are expected across France. This marks the fifth consecutive weekend of demonstrations.


ignored by state media in America

but massive

rrb said...



LOL.

Hitler phones Biden again...

https://youtu.be/bNWjXYHz2u0

rrb said...



Hey alky, Could you please do us all a favor and post that WSJ link a few hundred more times?

Thanks alky.

We know how much this means to you.

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

rrb said...


Hey alky, Could you please do us all a favor and post that WSJ link a few hundred more times?

Thanks alky.

We know how much this means to you.



His "photographic memory" had a brain freeze

probably from watching Biden bite off all that ice cream

who eats ice cream like that ???

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...



https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1426765115886604292


not from a teleprompter but Biden's own words

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Outside of the right wing nutcase websites most of them don't say anything like these crazy mothrf***rs.

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

rrb said...

LOL.

Hitler phones Biden again...

https://youtu.be/bNWjXYHz2u0


comments:

Joe Biden's mind is sharper than everyone who voted for him.

The scary thing is, the scenes with Hitler are played by actors, the scenes with a senile old fake President are not.

Let me correct you Hitler, Americans didn't vote for the senile grandpa, his handlers stole the election for him

rrb said...



This may become the most infamous — and devastating — press conference ever held by an American President.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1426710333264179214

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Roger Amick said...
Outside of the right wing nutcase websites most of them don't say anything like these crazy mothrf***rs.

roger has discovered what state media is

How many reports on adverse vaccine effects

how many reports on massive oversees protests ?

How many reports on FBI insertion involvement in domestic protests ?

How many reports on Biden spreading Covid by relocating illegal migrants ?

How much coverage to record "children in cages" ?

etc etc etc


just Biden remains popular and loves ice cream and cookies

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This makes sense...in a historic level

In the wake of the horror of Al Qaeda’s attacks on the United States, most Americans polled believed that the country was doing the “right thing” in going to war in Afghanistan. That level of support didn’t last long, but the war on terror did, and so did the military expedition to Afghanistan, which stretched on inconclusively for two decades and now ends in ignominy. Donald Trump set this fiasco in motion, by announcing his intention to pull out the remaining American troops in Afghanistan and begin negotiations with the Taliban. In February, 2020, an agreement was signed that promised to withdraw all U.S. military forces in return for, among other things, peace talks with the U.S.-backed Afghan government. The American troops were duly drawn down, but, instead of engaging in real discussions, the Taliban stepped up their attacks. In April, President Joe Biden announced his intention to carry on with the withdrawal, and pull out forces by September 11th. However much he says that he does “not regret” his decision, his Presidency will be held responsible for whatever happens in Afghanistan now, and the key words that will forever be associated with the long American sojourn there will include hubris, ignorance, inevitability, betrayal, and failure.

In that regard, the United States joins a line of notable predecessors, including Great Britain, in the nineteenth century, and the Soviet Union, in the twentieth. Those historic precedents don’t make the American experience any more palatable. In Afghanistan—and, for that matter, in Iraq, as well—the Americans did not merely not learn from the mistakes of others; they did not learn from their own mistakes, committed a generation earlier, in Vietnam.




rrb said...



who eats ice cream like that ???


A person who has nothing to fear from brain freeze. Nothing at all.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-return-of-the-taliban

rrb said...




"Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up."

- Skeets Hussein 0linsky






rrb said...



Be sure to re-post that New Yorker link several dozen times alky.

For emphasis. Even though we won't read it.

It's important.

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

rrb said...



"Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up."

- Skeets Hussein 0linsky


roger remains like the Japanese soldier captured on an island 20 years later still defending the empire

from his room in a assisted living facility

in a room with two beds

and driving his roommate crazy

guess they are trying to even things out.

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...



U.S. Embassy Kabul

@USEmbassyKabul · Jun 2

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1426891847872434188

The month of June is recognized as (LGBTI) Pride Month. The United States respects the dignity & equality of LGBTI people & celebrates their contributions to the society. We remain committed to supporting civil rights of minorities, including LGBTI persons. #Pride2021 #PrideMonth

Jack Posobiec

Top 10 All-Time “Didn’t Age Well” Tweets



maybe Joe can appoint one of his woke generals as ambassador to Afghanistan now



JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Catturd ™
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1426683400560259080


RING! RING!

It’s for you Mr. President, urgent.

General ... “Mr. President, Afghanistan is a total disaster, what do we do?”

Joe Biden ... “My Butt’s been wiped.”

General ... “Never mind.”

Click.



FACT CHECK - probably TRUE

Commonsense said...

Doubt if the Taliban can go up against the PLA.

I can see the Chinese Communist invade Afghanistan. The PLA has far more solders than US ever had and are able to deploy a present in the countryside as well as the major cities.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The collapse proves that if the U.S. stayed, it would have been Americans in a shooting war with the Taliban, with an unknown number of casualties, and no end in sight.


We are not an empire.


This civil war began forty years ago, and again, we decided not to be an empire, like Great Britain was when they colonized North America...Our revolution created the United States of America.




The Soviet Union tried to colonize Afghanistan. When they withdrew from Afghanistan, the Soviet Union collapsed completely in the late 80s.

We will prevail. Unlike the Soviet Union.


Get over it.


It's over.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.axios.com/biden-taliban-kabul-legacy-0980aeba-a748-4ea5-a9b4-24a5ee899e9f.html

rrb said...




We will prevail. Unlike the Soviet Union.


As we hurriedly flee. Just like the Soviet Union.



JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...



𝐓𝐡𝐞𝐃𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐩𝐨𝐨𝐥
@JoshD0110
The Taliban have released this video of themselves enjoying milk and cookies in the governor's mansion lol


https://mobile.twitter.com/JoshD0110/status/1426588539333058563



No masks !!!

No social distancing !!!

A bunch on their phones

Any normal US president would know the exact location of this and blew it up to high heaven

Biden is probably still sleeping

RIP America

rrb said...


I can see the Chinese Communist invade Afghanistan. The PLA has far more solders than US ever had and are able to deploy a present in the countryside as well as the major cities.


The PLA will also be unencumbered by retarded rules of engagement dreamed up by woke retards like General Milley Vanilli.

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...


We have a mental patient in the white house

and one here defending him from his mental health bed



perfect illustrations of the state of America



rrb said...



Any normal US president would know the exact location of this and blew it up to high heaven


Normally we would, but Slow Joe gifted all the drones in the region to the Taliban. Along with trucks, HUMVEES, MRAPS, light weapons, ammunition...


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

A more realistic conservative perspective.


The Joe Biden who promised to put human rights at the center of his foreign policy is the same Joe Biden now stubbornly paving the way for the world’s cruelest human-rights abusers to re-establish their regime in Afghanistan.

Biden had promised us that he would restore the soul of America, but words are cheap. As the remaining U.S. troops have left Afghanistan, Afghan provinces have been falling to the Taliban like dominos. Men of the Afghan military are reportedly being executed. Women and young girls are being forced into marriage and sex slavery. And the same Biden administration that prides itself on its concern for social justice, racial justice, gender justice, and LGBT pride is going to stand by and watch girls’ schools shut down, ethnic cleansing against Shi’ite Hazaras, and homosexuals stoned to death.

As reported by Axios, “the Taliban has toppled nine provincial capitals in six days and now controls an estimated 65% of the country.” It “is striking with impressive speed and coordination, a senior Biden official grudgingly acknowledged. Afghans and international security are scrambling to manage mayhem.”

As if to underscore the rout, Biden dispatched Zalmay Khalilzad—both Trump’s and Biden’s envoy for Afghan peace talks—to bribe the Taliban to spare the U.S. embassy in Kabul. He failed. And so, on Thursday, U.S. embassy staffers began evacuating.

A few months into his administration, Donald Trump ordered strikes against Bashar al-Assad’s airfields. Trump was shaken after H.R. McMaster showed him pictures of gassed children. This week, Biden took the opposite route, saying, “I do not regret my decision.”

Stubbornly, Biden is refusing to admit the disaster that is plainly unfolding. It turns out that there never was a contingency plan for the pullout because there was never a plan to pull out. The Afghans were not warned to prepare for what was to come. Quite the opposite, they found out like the rest of us, from their televisions, at a time when a third of their air force was down, and remains down, due to parts shortages.

President Biden, however, could have prepared. He had access to all the secret intelligence he needed, which the Department of Defense used to warn him about the inevitable catastrophe—not that any especially deep analysis or original insight was needed to know what would follow the announcement of a timed U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan. The bipartisan, international Afghanistan Study Group more or less predicted this outcome back in February.

The fecklessness is not limited to Biden himself; his wider administration is complicit. State Department spokesman Ned Price has conceded that the Taliban is already committing war crimes, and he has warned them that, if they continue, they will be internationally isolated. The Taliban, though, does not seek recognition from gentle liberals. Besides, the Pakistanis, the Iranians, the Chinese, and the Russians are already moving ahead with recognizing the Taliban regime as soon as Kabul falls, which is likely just a matter of weeks under the current trajectory. Each is anticipating a mass influx of refugees in its territory, and they need to be nice to the Taliban to stop this. Each also fears a regime that could export terrorism into its territory.

Unlike rrb etc. I actually read it


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.thebulwark.com/blame-biden-for-afghanistans-return-to-the-dark-ages/

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...


I can see the Chinese Communist invade Afghanistan. The PLA has far more solders than US ever had and are able to deploy a present in the countryside as well as the major cities.



The Chinese will have no trouble walling of Afghanistan if they desire

And shipping Uyghrs there to mine rare earth minerals and the like

and grow opium

etc

and gladly accept it back into China in exchange for food or whatever the Taliban is desperate for.

Or just wipe out the entire country

without blinking

rrb said...



LOL hilarious -

State Department spokesman Ned Price has conceded that the Taliban is already committing war crimes, and he has warned them that, if they continue, they will be internationally isolated.

These fucking heathens already live in the 12th century, so naturally they shit their robes in fear of being "internationally isolated."

LOL @ The Bul-Shit. Owned and operated by liberal Iranian billionaire Pierre Omidyar. Living proof that Bill Kristol and Charlie "Three Wives" Sykes will suck anyone's ass for a buck.


Good one alky.




JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...


Roger Amick said...
A more realistic conservative perspective.


Any person in an "assisted living facility" aka mental institution is not capable of giving a realistic conservative perspective

Though they are incapable of understanding that

Period


rrb said...



Bill Kristol, posting his "L's" online -

https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1426704814277287939


LOL

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...


State Department spokesman Ned Price has conceded that the Taliban is already committing war crimes, and he has warned them that, if they continue, they will be internationally isolated.


who knew beheading people in public would be considered a war crime ?

have Biden's lawyers looked into this yet ?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

All you have is insults.

Because you can't comprehend whatever I say.

I'm accustomed to it because I am a lot smarter than you are.


JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Tim Young
https://twitter.com/TimRunsHisMouth/status/1426769872537759754


How long until we find out it was actually Hunter in that pee tape?



it's a slow news day with Joe on vacation and all so maybe today ???

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I have put up with it for my entire life.

Like bullies, until I got six feet tall when I was 15.

But even here I have been dealing with it for 20 years.

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...


Catherine Herridge
https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1426659104861343748

#SpecialCounselDurham is taking evidence to grand jury + exploring whether individuals used intel they KNEW to be suspect. Declassified footnotes 2019 IG report reveal FBI knew risk of “Russian disinformation in Steele dossier” used to secure surveillance warrants @carterwpage


TheLastRefuge

If Durham had any legitimate intent (he doesn't) then he would be arresting special counsel officials who were on the Mueller probe.... starting with Weissmann.


amazing how the state media gave cover to such a partisan fake "investigation", and who knew it was fake.

mental patients still believe it though

roger's roommate is probably going to do a "pee tape" reenactment for him

maybe it will be a duet



C.H. Truth said...

Vaccine opponents have gleefully pointed to Iceland as proof that the shots are a “failure.” But contrary to online misinformation and conspiratorial social media posts, infectious-disease experts say Iceland’s outbreak actually illustrates how effective the vaccines are at preventing the virus’s most severe impacts.

Well I think there is a difference of opinion among scientists, doctors, epidemiologists as to what a vaccine is supposed to do and what is considered a successful vaccine. Generally I would guess that vaccines are supposed to stop people from catching it. But it doesn't appear like that is the argument anymore, huh?

a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.


the ability of an organism to resist a particular infection or toxin by the action of specific antibodies or sensitized white blood cells.


Mitigation from the worst effects of a virus or disease is not the definition of immunity or a vaccine. We have only made it so for political reasons. Only a matter of time before medical dictionaries change their definition of these words to follow suit, huh?

C.H. Truth said...

United States 74,128 22 +69%
Florida › 15,098 70 +66%



So you are pointing out that Florida is now below the national average?


Or did you think this statistic meant something bad about Florida?

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Ben Domenech
https://twitter.com/bdomenech/status/1426873416108347393

Until this moment, the corporate media could lie about how terrible the Biden administration has been. Inflation, rising crime, border chaos, China emboldened, middle class in revolt over public schools - they rationalized all of it.

They can't rationalize this. It's a gutpunch.



and Biden just said it wouldn't happen

past time to impeach Biden

That's a more realistic conservative perspective.

and an American perspective

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

C.H. Truth said...
United States 74,128 22 +69%
Florida › 15,098 70 +66%


So you are pointing out that Florida is now below the national average?


Or did you think this statistic meant something bad about Florida?



I noticed that but thought pointing it out would be considered racist

So there

besides roger won't be able to comprehend

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) - Afghanistan's embattled president left the country Sunday, joining his fellow citizens and foreigners in a stampede fleeing the advancing Taliban and signaling the end of a 20-year Western experiment aimed at remaking Afghanistan.

The Taliban, which for hours had been in the outskirts of Kabul, announced soon after they would move further into a city gripped by panic throughout the day as helicopters raced overhead to evacuate personnel from the U.S. Embassy. Smoke rose near the compound as staff destroyed important documents. Several other Western missions also prepared to pull their people out.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You ignored the rest of the evidence

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Mitigation from the worst effects of a virus or disease is not the definition of immunity or a vaccine. We have only made it so for political reasons. Only a matter of time before medical dictionaries change their definition of these words to follow suit, huh?

I'm of the mind the variant itself is less lethal...

regardless of vaccination status

and wish we had medical reporting that was thorough and not political

anonymous said...

And I know they have promoted that high profile deaths such as Hank Aaron and Marvin Hagler were NOT from the vaccine. Though they both died shortly afterwards and were in good health.


BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! And I know when all you can post is YOUR opinion, I got you by the ballz and your 6k vax mortality is a figment of your delusional mind!!!!!!!!! God you are the anti intellect of the GOP in spades!!!!!!

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Roger Amick said...
You ignored the rest of the evidence

is roger referring to the pee tape again ?


he sure likes repeating state media stories

he calls them "evidence"

just like the FBI

wonder how long it will be when they can just be presented as such in a court of law.

Oh wait, the FBI already does. They "leak" to reporters, they do a story and then the FBI presents the story to a judge

brilliant

* not leak like in "pee tape"

C.H. Truth said...

Liberals really still don't get the point here.

It's not whether or not we should have left Afghanistan. It's how we left Afghanistan. We left Americans behind and insisted that the Afghan government had an organized military capable of holding places like Kabul from the Taliban.

Critics (who were scoffed at and banned from social media for providing disinformation) suggested that the Taliban would be in charge of everything sooner, rather than later. Heck our Government, our media, and our military pushed back on local news of the Taliban moving on areas previously under Afghan control.

I remember the liberals here arguing that news of the Taliban movement was overstated and even lies. There was long disagreement as to how much land the Taliban had under their control and how much they were gaining.


Well guess what Liberals! You were wrong and critics were right. The Taliban was more in control and the side we were backing was less in control than we could have ever imagined.

Now our President is basically down to "begging" the Taliban to let Americans leave first before we give the rest of the city (and it's citizens) over to the Taliban.


Somehow the fact that the former President agreed that we should get out of Afghan makes up for the blunderous way in which this was done. More to the point is that it isn't the blunders as much as it is the insistence that things were more under control. We either had our Government lie to our face (and then support more censorship of the truth on social media) or we had a clueless GOvernment who was actually dumb enough to believe what they argued?

rrb said...




The most tragic thing about Joe Biden’s cascade of failures is what it reveals about the man and his leadership team as a whole. He never had the capability to anticipate the problems which now overwhelm him and still less appears to possess the capacity to improvise a solution. Reality, so long kept at bay by the media narrative, is now inside his OODA loop and pulling ahead.

What began with the border crisis was joined by the covid outbreak. The trillions of dollars in stimulus turned on him to become inflation. Without a pause Afghanistan came out of the box months ahead of his scenario. Now with stunning speed, Kabul has almost fallen. Before he can react to one thing, yet another challenge emerges. Each time the loop goes round he is further and further behind.

Perhaps fortune will cut him a lucky break, but while there have been instances in history of a leader reversing the adverse tide, such feats require talent. Napoleon was reported to have said at Marengo, “This battle is completely lost. However, there is time to win another.” But Joe Biden is not Napoleon and his foes can apparently use time much better than he.

Events take the measure of a man. Biden may not even be, if events so far are a fair test, even the equivalent of Arthur Percival or Lord Elphinstone. Not since the fall of France in May 1940 has so mighty a paper force collapsed so swiftly before a foe. Biden has beaten the record and not in a good way.

That’s the good news. The bad news is that to this considerable tale of woe is likely to be added as much mischief as America’s enemies can contrive. They will pile it on. For no less than the Taliban, America’s near-peer adversaries now have the estimate of the hapless man in the White House. This confirmation of incapacity is possibly a greater loss than the fall of Afghanistan itself.




https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2021/08/15/biden-never-saw-what-hit-him-n1469569

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...


FUCK are you stupid VERY lo iq

perhaps you are roger's roommate in that mental institution?

evidence does appear pointing that way


rrb said...


We either had our Government lie to our face (and then support more censorship of the truth on social media) or we had a clueless GOvernment who was actually dumb enough to believe what they argued?


As cali often says around here -

Embrace the power of "and."


Watch John Kirby's latest state dept. briefings. A galactic embarrassment.

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

That’s the good news. The bad news is that to this considerable tale of woe is likely to be added as much mischief as America’s enemies can contrive. They will pile it on. For no less than the Taliban, America’s near-peer adversaries now have the estimate of the hapless man in the White House. This confirmation of incapacity is possibly a greater loss than the fall of Afghanistan itself.


And of even more concern of the hapless man in the white house is the totally incompetent extremist people he has surrounded himself with.

America is fucked

and better realize that fast

rrb said...


America is fucked

and better realize that fast



LOOTING THE TREASURY IS THE FINAL STAGE OF A FAILING STATE:

Inflation keeps growing, but Dems won’t stop spending.



https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/467744/

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Alex Plitsas
https://twitter.com/alexplitsas/status/1426717025603366912

Casual reminder that the Pentagon presented less risky withdrawal options which were rejected by President Biden followed by numerous fan boy “He Overrode The Generals” news articles


fawned then, will protect him now...

now it's Trump's fault...

or whatever

Biden owns this catastrophe

anonymous said...


https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/467744/


The sources used by brain damaged and drunken R's who can't write their own thoughts!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

RNC Research

CNN VIDEO:
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1426922866390482946

Jake Tapper: We are “watching a tragic foreign policy disaster unfold before our eyes...The rapid crumbling of [Afghanistan] has caught the Biden White House flat footed.”

“It seems shocking that President Biden could’ve been so wrong”



when even state media doesn't throw a lifeline to a sinking Biden ship

you know it's a disaster

if you have any working brain cells*


* this excludes the three headed Denny, "anonymous" or VERY lo iq. or roger's roommate

rrb said...



“It seems shocking that President Biden could’ve been so wrong”


Not really.

The dumb fuck can't even climb a flight of stairs for chrissakes.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I'm not blaming anyone. But you will probably be surprised. I have been reading about this for a couple days.

I agree that he should change his course.

The situation in Afghanistan is dire. But it is not too late to deploy forces to stabilize it, and ultimately turn it around. We can at least avoid the worst outcome, a collapse and slaughter that would be a catastrophe for the people of Afghanistan and a strategic and moral disaster for the United States.

We know this is doable: General John Allen, who served as commander of the International Security Assistance Force from 2011 to 2013, laid out a realistic plan for salvaging the situation and avoiding the complete collapse of Kabul. Would a bold intervention now commit us to sustain a military presence in Afghanistan indefinitely? Not necessarily, but there is a strong case for an enduring military presence there, in order to combat terrorists and help defend our nation, as well as to honor our alliance with the people of Afghanistan.

It may be tempting to believe that jihadist terrorism is no longer a serious threat because there have been no successful, large-scale terrorist attacks inside the United States originating from Afghanistan since 2001.

But that success must be credited, in part, to our ongoing military operations in Afghanistan and the region, which kept Al Qaeda and its allies on the run, in hiding, and focused on their own survival rather than on planning operations against us. Al Qaeda, the Islamic State, the Taliban—and other groups—are active and even thriving as we withdraw, and they have not fulfilled their obligations under the 2020 peace agreement. Without our help, our enemies are almost certain to regain a safe haven from which to organize and plot.

We also have a duty to stand by our Afghan allies who continue to fight our common enemies. We promised as much when we signed strategic partnership agreements with them in 2005 and 2012 and a bilateral security agreement in 2013, and when we designated them a major non-NATO ally. Withdrawal from Afghanistan is abandoning our allies in the middle of the fight. What would such abandonment tell the world about American character and reliability in future moments when we look to make alliances in our strategic interests?

The United States has made mistakes in Afghanistan during the past 20 years. But we should not let errors from the past lead to even worse mistakes today. If we lose Afghanistan, we will lose our ability to combat terrorists in the region. Our nation will be less safe. And we will have failed our allies who need our support.

It is not too late for the Biden administration to reconsider—and to act.


Paul D. Miller and William Kristol

Paul D. Miller is a professor of the practice of international affairs at Georgetown University, former director for Afghanistan on the national security council staff, and a veteran of the war in Afghanistan. William Kristol is editor-at-large of The Bulwark.

We can't afford to let terrorists organize another 9/11.

Or worse than before.