Support for the American military withdrawal from Afghanistan dropped 20 percentage points from April to August as the Taliban takeover of the country accelerated, according to a Morning Consult/POLITICO poll.
The poll, conducted from Aug. 13-16 among a sample of 1,999 registered voters, indicated that just 25 percent of American voters think the withdrawal from Afghanistan is going well. Just 49 percent of voters continued to support the withdrawal, down from 69 percent in April.
Okay, to believe this is going well, by nature that means you sort of expected it would go worse than this? If you believe this is better than expected, what were you expecting? I strongly suspect that those 25% really don't have a clue as to what is actually happening or are just kneejerk liberals willing to back anything that Biden does and say it is "going well". These same people probably think that Covid is "going well" and that the border is "going well".
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Ex-Pentagon Chief Says Trump Undermined Taliban Deal
August 17, 2021 at 5:55 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard
Former Defense Secretary
Mark Esper told CNN that he was concerned that then-President Donald Trump “undermined” the U.S. agreement with the Taliban by pushing for U.S. forces to leave Afghanistan WITHOUT THE TALIBAN MEETING THE CONDITIONS OF THE DEAL.
Said Esper:
“My concern was that President Trump, by CONTINUTING to want to withdraw American forces out of Afghanistan, UNDERMINED THE AGREEMENT.”
He added:
“Otherwise, we would see a number of things play out, which are unfolding right now in many ways.”
AND MEANWHILE THIS CRAP:
Georgia Moves to Take Over Fulton County Elections
August 17, 2021 at 7:00 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard
“The Georgia State Board of Elections plans to appoint a review panel this week as part of a process that could lead to a takeover of elections in the state’s most populous county under a provision in the state’s sweeping new election law,” the Associated Press reports.
AND SOMETHING BETTER:
New York Attorney General Pushes to Dissolve NRA
August 17, 2021 at 6:00 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard
New York Attorney General Letitia James (D) said in a court filing that the National Rifle Association “hasn’t cleaned up rampant financial and managerial misconduct as it claimed over the past year, illustrating the need for the gun-rights group to be dissolved,” Bloomberg reports.
AND BETTER:
House Leaders Press Ahead with $3.5 Trillion Budget
August 17, 2021 at 5:41 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 156 Comments
“House Democratic leaders told members of their caucus on Tuesday that they plan to press ahead with a vote advancing a $3.5 trillion budget blueprint next week, disregarding warnings from moderate Democrats who said they will oppose that legislation without first voting on a $1 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill,” the New York Times reports.
Speaker Nancy Pelosi told her deputies “this is no time for amateur hour.”
She added:
“For the first time America’s children have leverage — I will not surrender that leverage. There is no way we can pass those bills unless we do so in the order that we originally planned.”
AND THIS BRAINLESSNESS:
Abbott Was at Crowded, Maskless Event
August 17, 2021 at 5:57 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 106 Comments
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R), who tested positive for the coronavirus earlier today, was at a crowded and maskless indoor event last night.
the pedantic, purveyor, of pandemic porn the pedo can’t think for himself and can only past shit no one reads
Fucking pathetic loser
You’re boring old man, I honestly don’t know why you get up in the morning
Regarding the post at 6:18 above
IN THE LONG 18 minute interview connected to that, Esper said
Biden "owns" this
but also
Trump "undermined" it.
Watch the whole thing for the complexities of it.
It was a failure stretching over four presidents.
Which did worse?
https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2021/08/17/amanpour-taliban-afghanistan-former-defense-secretary-mark-esper.cnn https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2021/08/17/amanpour-taliban-afghanistan-former-defense-secretary-mark-esper.cnn
Thank you for your kind words, Cali.
I get up in the morning so that I can post informative stuff like that at 7:01, not the shallow superficial drivel you rely on and relish.
Another pop up Thunderstorm just gave us a grain making 1 1/2 of rain.
Perfect.
Not sure how to take this.
"“We're not simply going back to the economy that we had before the pandemic,” Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell
Pedo no one reads your spam we ALL skip right over it.
But keep posting in bold that means something, what no one knows
Oh and pedo it’s awesome to know I’m that I’m living rent free in your empty head
Off topic but interesting...
Last week Gov Cuomo said we was resigning in 14 days. Now many here have noted that he never actually signed and submitted a formal letter of resignation. What a friggin weasel he is. He's still gonna try to ride this out.
The New York Times article
WASHINGTON — Classified assessments by American spy agencies over the summer painted an increasingly grim picture of the prospect of a Taliban takeover of Afghanistan and warned of the rapid collapse of the Afghan military, even as President Biden and his advisers said publicly that was unlikely to happen as quickly, according to current and former American government officials.
By July, many intelligence reports grew more pessimistic, questioning whether any Afghan security forces would muster serious resistance and whether the government could hold on in Kabul, the capital. President Biden said on July 8 that the Afghan government was unlikely to fall and that there would be no chaotic evacuations of Americans similar to the end of the Vietnam War.
The drumbeat of warnings over the summer raise questions about why Biden administration officials, and military planners in Afghanistan, seemed ill-prepared to deal with the Taliban’s final push into Kabul, including a failure to ensure security at the main airport and rushing thousands more troops back to the country to protect the United States’ final exit.
One report in July — as dozens of Afghan districts were falling and Taliban fighters were laying siege to several major cities — laid out the growing risks to Kabul, noting that the Afghan government was unprepared for a Taliban assault, according to a person familiar with the intelligence.
The President is the Commander in Chief.
I don't know how history will see this
RCP average
RCP Average8/7 - 8/16 49.44 6.8+2.6
Overall 49% still higher than..
Anti-Vax Christian Radio Host Dies of Covid-19
August 17, 2021 at 8:02 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard
Religious radio broadcaster
Jimmy DeYoung Sr., who spread disinformation about the coronavirus vaccines, was killed by the virus, the Chattanoogan reports.
The Daily Beast reports DeYoung published an interview earlier this year “promoting the conspiracy theories that the Pfizer vaccine would make women sterile and that world governments were using the virus and vaccine to centralize power.”
I just now saw Cali's last and laughed at his claim he lives rent free in my head.
I especially laugh too at how often he gives specific answers to posts he claims he never reads.
I'd think he was mentally telpathetic if I didn't know he's only just pathetic.
(He had a good father he never sufficiently appreciated.)
My posts at 6:18, 7:01, and 7:04 sure did send ole Cali into a tailspin.
Especially the two responding so aptly to his 6:56.
I'm sure he didn't watch the full video at 7:01,
for fear that it would ed-ju-mi-fi-cate him.
Living rent free in the pedo’s head
Oh look I’ve been able to post in bold far longer than the blog’s geriatric. Night loser I’m sure I’ll be in most of your dreams
LOL
BTW my son, I was actually able to procreate unlike you, has a bidding war for his services after he graduated debt free 2 weeks ago
LOLOL
Najia was at home with her three young sons and daughter in a small village in northern Afghanistan when Taliban fighters knocked on their door.
Najia's daughter Manizha, 25, knew they were coming -- her mother had told her they'd done the same thing the previous three days, demanding that she cook food for up to 15 fighters.
"My mother told them, 'I am poor, how can I cook for you?'" said Manizha. "(The Taliban) started beating her. My mother collapsed, and they hit her with their guns -- AK47s."
Manizha said she yelled at the fighters to stop. They paused for a moment before throwing a grenade into the next room and fleeing as the flames spread, she said. The mother of four died from the beating.
Biden's Defeat
I strongly suspect that those 25% really don't have a clue as to what is actually happening or are just kneejerk liberals willing to back anything that Biden does and say it is "going well".
Sounds about right. Throw in your typical D +8 oversampling and that is how you get to 25%.
These are also the same folks who would cheer on Sloppy Joe as they watched him ass-raping the corpse of an 8 year old at high noon on the south lawn of the white house as they welcome the Taliban to join the "international community."
Hopefully the Taliban received General Milley's memo regarding the proper and politically correct use of pronouns so they can get off on the right foot with what's left of western civilization.
They paused for a moment before throwing a grenade into the next room and fleeing as the flames spread, she said. The mother of four died from the beating.
As Biden* nodded approvingly at the result of his actions.
I think Slow Joe's mid-term grades will really bring up his average...
Afghan man trapped in landing gear of plane at 38,000 feet...
https://youtu.be/F-njzHg2vbY
Biden pulled U.S. troops out while 15000 U.S. citizens were still in Afghanistan. He didn't get that from Trump.
This is what happens when you give us a president with dementia.
If you want truthfulness in journalism and commentary, politicalwire.com is the right place to come to. Also the honest posts of Roger and me. Not the usual slanted ChUNtruth propaganda.
California Recall Is Very Close
August 18, 2021 at 7:07 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
The FiveThirtyEight polling
average in California shows Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) barely surviving the recall effort, 48.8% to 47.6%.
Pelosi In Showdown with House Moderates
August 18, 2021 at 7:01 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
Punchbowl News:
“House Democratic lawmakers and aides privately believe the moderates have gone too far, but at this point, the group isn’t backing down. With only a three-vote margin to play with, Pelosi will need this issue resolved before the House takes up the rule for the budget resolution on Monday night.
“There are some similarities to the schism inside the House Democratic Caucus now and that which occurred in 2009 and 2010, when the party’s factions were clashing over Obamacare. Yet at that point, there were also far more moderates and Blue Dogs than now, and Pelosi had a much bigger majority. So there’s a limit to how much room both she and the moderates have to operate. That plays in Pelosi’s favor, not the moderates. We’ll see how she handles it in the end.”
Taliban Beating Women and Kids on Way to Airport
August 18, 2021 at 6:51 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
“Taliban promises
of ‘safe passage’ to the Kabul airport for Afghans trying to flee the country have been undermined by reports of women and children being beaten and whipped as they try to pass through checkpoints set up by the militants,” The Guardian reports.
Washington Post:
“The Taliban erected checkpoints throughout the capital and near the airport’s entrance, beating some Afghans who attempted to cross and intimidating others from leaving.”
New York Times:
Taliban violently crush first public protest.
Troubling CDC Data Convinced Biden to Back Boosters
August 18, 2021 at 6:41 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
Politico:
“The evidence, compiled by federal scientists over the past several months, showed a decline in the initial round of protection against Covid-19 infection that’s coincided with a resurgence in cases driven by the more contagious Delta variant. The data looked at vaccine effectiveness in individuals across age groups, with varying medical conditions and who received the shot at different times.”
Washington Post:
Rise of delta variant and waning immunity are fueling breakthrough infections.
Biden’s Approval Drops Below 50%
August 18, 2021 at 6:32 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
FiveThirtyEight
shows President Biden’s approval rate has dropped below 50% for the first time in his presidency.
Playbook:
“The dip has been driven by a slow erosion among independents that seems tied to the Delta surge and predates the problems in Afghanistan.”
Meanwhile, MSDNC went full retard:
Wallace went full White House hack, imagining a fantasy in which the public were happy with Biden’s shameful mishandling of Afghanistan:
Well, I’m going to say two things, and both hard to say. But I'll say them anyway because here they are. 95% of the American people will agree with everything he just said. 95% of the press covering this White House will disagree. And for an American president to finally be completely aligned with such an overwhelming majority of what the American people think about Afghanistan is probably a tremendous relief to the American people....And what he has going for him is a vast majority of Americans in both political parties.
Moments later, she admitted she had no idea what she was talking about: “We haven’t seen much public opinion polling on this because it’s happened so quickly.”
https://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kyle-drennen/2021/08/16/deranged-msnbc-95-americans-agree-biden-they-dont
So now Biden's approval is now slightly below 50% on the RealClearPolitics aggregate.
Trump's approval was ALWAYS below 50%. Always. And often far below.
He didn't get that from Trump.
BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!! But he did get a pandemic and a shrinking economy from him!!!!!!!! BTW.....WTF are 15k americans doing in that shit hole????? Who they working for .......??? Sad we didn't know that before and had the state department getting those assholes out....But like the vax.....most people refuse to do what is best for themselves!!!!
I just this moment read Cali's weak 8:15 PM
and laughed. He thinks he's SO important, so clever. Much of the time I don't even bother to notice him.
Biden in July:
“The Taliban is not the North Vietnamese army. They’re not remotely comparable in terms of capability. “There's going to be no circumstances where you’re going to see people being lifted off the roof of a US Embassy in Afghanistan.”
https://twitter.com/i/status/1426894630629429250
Let's see... How many Americans are clamoring for us to go back in to Afghanistan? Any polls on that?
Even Trump was for getting out.Even more quickly. :-)
I noticed that when Trump said things like, the virus is not more serious than the common flu and will soon be down to near zero and go away completely like magic with warm weather,
Ch jumped in to defend him by saying he was only "hoping" these things.
I guess Ch would now like to say the same thing about Biden's statement reported at 6:45.
Wow......Rat attacking MSNBC's host....a certified conservative with a brain....unlike him!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! It is unfortunate that the GOP has lost what being a conservative means....all they do is act as the Anti biden party with no fucking clear leader other than a fat assed lying sack of shit who thinks women should be used!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!! Wonder where his cunt has been hiding????? She seems to have dropped out of sight....coult that mean something??????
And by the way, Trump was lying even then--\, according to his later statement that he knew all along that the air borne virus was very serious and a pandemic, but didn't want to "panic" the public.
So rather than panicking, people died.
There is your benchmark. The Soviets were 38-times more successful in Afghanistan than we were, and they did it in half the time.
Let that soak in. Let the humiliation flow over you like a healing balm. Fear and shame – regardless of what modern minds try to tell you otherwise – are great motivators. Let this motivate you.
Almost exactly two decades after the attacks of 11SEP01, as a nation we are covered in disgrace. A global humiliation on a national scale. Accept that. Hold it close to you. Feel it. Smell it. Know it, because it will be attached to us for at least the rest of the decade – most likely longer.
Good people can agree or disagree about staying or going from Afghanistan, but no one can defend how we did it.
Everyone here who [was] given responsibility by the American people failed.
The president failed. . . . All our intelligence agencies failed their government and the people.
Our think tanks, the legions of foreign policy and diplomacy PhDs from all the right schools who populate the National Security State who like to tell everyone how smart they are – they all failed.
https://cdrsalamander.substack.com/p/this-is-what-a-whole-of-government
Anonymous at 6:53 gets into the gutter. Stop it.
The Soviets sure were smarter than us. They left in ten years.
There is your benchmark. The Soviets were 38-times more successful in Afghanistan than we were,
BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!! And our NY asshole falls for another POS fake news story from a source of questionable bullshit!!!
CDR salamander...is a bigger joke than PJ Media!!!!
Alabama Has Run Out of Intensive Care Beds
August 18, 2021 at 8:01 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
“There are more
intensive care patients in Alabama than there are ICU beds in the state to treat them,” the Washington Post reports.
“Hospitals in the South have for weeks been overrun by covid-19 patients as cases surged across the Sun Belt. But now, health-care workers across the country are also struggling to manage the waves of cases brought on by the delta variant.”
________
Trump promised that nothing remotely like this would ever happen, but he was only "hoping."
Sorry james....Meldorous is exactly what I described....it is unfortunate you take offense at the term...since that is exactly what she is!!!! Grow up!!!!
U.S. Officials In Germany Hit with Havana Symdrome
August 18, 2021 at 7:53 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
“At least two U.S. officials
stationed in Germany sought medical treatment after developing symptoms of the mysterious health complaint known as Havana Syndrome,” the Wall Street Journal reports.
Election Officials Grapple with 2020’s Long Shadow
August 18, 2021 at 7:45 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
Politico:
“Interviews with a dozen state chief election officers at the National Association of Secretaries of State summer conference here, along with panel discussions and conversations with other conference attendees, paint a picture of a radically different American election system post-2020, reshaped by a once-in-a-generation pandemic on one side and a near-unprecedented wave of misinformation on the other.
“Now, those officials — who in many states also manage bureaucracies around things like business registration and licensing barbers and hairdressers — find their jobs dominated by elections. They have been besieged by conspiracies about what happened last year, and they’re increasingly being targeted personally by those same misinformation campaigns.”
WHEN YOU HAVE TO LIE TO TRY TO WIN AN ELECTION...
Iran Boosts Production of Uranium
August 18, 2021 at 7:39 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
“Iran has nearly doubled
its enrichment capacity dedicated to purifying uranium close to the levels required for nuclear weapons, signaling it won’t de-escalate its atomic activities before meeting again with world powers,” Bloomberg reports.
AND WHO DOES THE WORLD HAVE TO THANK FOR THAT?
DONALD J. TRUMP, THAT'S WHO.
I grew up a long time ago. There are times when I wish you would leave this blog, you so often join the guttersnipes in their kind of posting. That does not represent me. I think we should set a higher standard than rrb, F'n, and others.
What Biden Knew
August 18, 2021 at 8:09 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
“You saw this one coming:
The more talk of an intelligence failure, the more likely that intel world would strike back.
Sure enough, we now have a spate of leaks asserting that the intelligence agencies provided prescient reads on Afghanistan,” Axios reports.
James, I appreciate your comments.....however guttersnipe is all the likes of rat or the goat fuck understand....The racist bigotry they exhibit here and their wanton disregard for humanity are to me more obscene and disgusting than using a word that upsets you.....Trying to keep a higher standard is what got us Trump and his disasterous regime as evidenced by the GOP steam rolling the D's at every step of the way....Maybe if more people acted rough shod over the right, more could get done that benefits all instead of the white boy GOP who is legislating election participation because they are losing the war of population!!!!!
Bill Roggio
SHORT VIDEO:
https://twitter.com/billroggio/status/1427810858256769031
This is what it looks like outside the north gate at the airport in Kabul. I won't mention why this location is important. I will say that the @CENTCOM commander, who agreed to allow this airport to be the primary/only evacuation point, should be dismissed/replaced immediately.
Where does the buck stop ?
Joe is sleeping while on vacation
which apparently was rudely interrupted
* to read a prepared for him speech from a teleprompter
* with no questions allowed
Jacob Siegel
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1427964364070531077
Mr. Wemple should investigate the role played by Maddow and others in amplifying disinformation about "Russian bounties" that was planted by partisan operatives to sabotage negotiations with the Taliban and prolong the war in Afghanistan.
Glenn Greenwald
The bullshit story about Russian bounties on US troops planted by the CIA -- to destroy Trump's ability to leave Afghanistan -- was laundered by the NYT, and it worked. When pro-war Dems joined with Liz Cheney to try to defund withdrawal, they repeatedly cited that NYT story.
enemies of the people
and an incompetent Biden administration
recipe for disaster
aided by gullible partisan democrats
Tom Cotton
https://twitter.com/TomCottonAR/status/1427794397668708352
No one in their right mind would have closed Bagram Air Base while leaving behind thousands of civilians.
But that's what Joe Biden did.
not a time to sleep and vacation
and isolate yourself, Joe
Never in history has there been a more incompetent leader in America
maybe the world
Amy Tarkanian
(video) https://twitter.com/MrsT106/status/1427946748484464640
Yesterday, the White House said that Joe Biden has not taken any calls with world leaders in regards to Afghanistan.
Justin Trudeau stated that he spoke with Hillary Clinton yesterday about Afghanistan.
What is going on? Why is the US President not taking calls but Hillary is?
Joe was too "busy"
vacationing
Morgan Ortagus
https://twitter.com/MorganOrtagus/status/1427809074440200192
Just curious, for how long are we all going to pretend it’s not completely bizarre that @POTUS @VP @SecDef CJC, haven’t briefed them media or taken questions since the fall of AFG? No emergency cabinet meetings, no emergency NATO meetings, no calls to allies (1 today UK)…
As citizens of this great country, we deserve to know who is in charge. @NATO is in shambles and leaders are furious. Veterans are despondent. Thousands of Americans are stranded. Where are our govt leaders?
The Emperor has no clothes.
as everyone was warned but hidden by big tech and the state media
Joe Biden
@JoeBiden
United States government official
When I’m speaking to foreign leaders, I’m telling them: America is going to be back. We’re going to be back in the game.
Nov 10, 2020
https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1326306141056364544
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Mr. Wemple should investigate the role played by Maddow and others in amplifying disinformation about "Russian bounties" that was planted by partisan operatives to sabotage negotiations with the Taliban and prolong the war in Afghanistan.
Glenn Greenwald
The bullshit story about Russian bounties on US troops planted by the CIA -- to destroy Trump's ability to leave Afghanistan -- was laundered by the NYT, and it worked. When pro-war Dems joined with Liz Cheney to try to defund withdrawal, they repeatedly cited that NYT story.
LOL. Yes indeed.
The alky fell for that bounty myth fucking HARD.
Unlike Roger and James during the President Trump years who only wanted failure.
I want President Biden to do very well for our country, but can he.
I want President Biden to do very well for our country, but can he.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! A complete lie!!!!!!
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