NEW YORK, Aug 17 (Reuters) - President Joe Biden's approval rating dropped by 7 percentage points and hit its lowest level so far as the U.S.-backed Afghan government collapsed over the weekend in an upheaval that sent thousands of civilians and Afghan military allies fleeing for their safety, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll.
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| Seven months in and his approvals have dropped into the mid forties |
The national opinion poll, conducted on Monday, found that 46% of American adults approved of Biden's performance in office, the lowest recorded in weekly polls that started when Biden took office in January.
Meanwhile, the latest Rasmussen poll shows the President with a similar approval of 45% and the most recent YouGov tracking poll shows him at 47%. Oddly, the media has been rather quiet about the subject of approvals with pretty much no major polling being done since this fiasco began. One will hae to see where the next round of polls ends up.
Biden has behaved since the beginning of his campaign like a boxer who believes he has won enough of the early rounds and all he needs to do is run out the clock. If forced to step up and fight, one wonders if Biden has that ability. Pretty much everything about his election and early approvals was built on a media mirage that turned a life-long political moron into a supposed seasoned leader who would maintain stable leadership.
Despite his time in politics, Biden has never been a good politician or an effective leaders. This is suddenly becoming painfully obvious just over half a year into his Presidency. If someone could point to the part of his Presidency that has actually shown some proven leadership I would be interested to hear that opinion. But certainly there can be no argument of success over Covid, over crime, over the border, over social unrest, and most certainly there has been no international success (as we can see in Afghanistan).
Will Biden "bounce back" once the Afghanistan disaster falls out of the news cycle? That depends on whether or not you believe that his high approvals were well founded and built on actual issue support. I happen to believe that this is a genie that will be hard to put back in the bottle. The closer you look at Biden and his Administration, the less competent and capable it appears.
I believe that it will take some actual tangible actions on the part of the President to prove that he is a guy capable of leading. I don't believe that hiding out at Camp David, putting a lid on his days at noon, and holding press conferences where he won't take questions is going to pull him out of this slump. That strategy might do someone well if all you want to do is maintain an illusion. But that illusion is gone in my humble opinion and reality is what reality is.
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It's high time we start to punish rather than reward failure in our public sector.
As the Taliban began seizing provinces across Afghanistan in recent weeks, the CIA’s intelligence assessments began to warn in increasingly stark terms about the potential for a rapid, total collapse of the Afghan military and government, current and former U.S. officials told NBC News.
In the end, the CIA’s description of what a worst-case scenario could look like “was pretty close to what happened,” one former official briefed on the matter said.
The White House won’t confirm whether President Joe Biden ever received such a dire forecast from his national security team. The president himself appeared to dispute a month ago that intelligence suggested the increasing likelihood that the Afghan military would fold.
But it is precisely that outcome that has emerged as one of the administration’s chief arguments to justify the president standing by his decision to end the U.S. military operation in Afghanistan.
“Afghanistan political leaders gave up and fled the country,” Biden told the nation Monday. “The Afghan military collapsed, sometimes without trying to fight. If anything, the developments of the past week reinforced that ending U.S. military involvement in Afghanistan now was the right decision.”
Image: Afghan people climb atop a plane as they wait at the airport in Kabul, Afghanistan.
Afghan people climb atop a plane as they wait at the airport in Kabul, Afghanistan, on Monday.Wakil Kohsar / AFP via Getty Images
On the surface, it’s a stark contrast from what the president had said just a month ago. Speaking in the same room July 8, the president was asked directly about reports that he was presented intelligence predicting a rapid collapse of the Afghan government without a continued U.S. presence. At first, Biden challenged the premise.
“That is not true. They did not reach that conclusion,” he said then.
But when pressed on what the intelligence did say, Biden sidestepped the issue.
“The Afghan government and leadership has to come together,” he said. “They have the capacity. They have the forces. They have the equipment. The question is: Will they do it?”
The answer was a resounding no. Now, national security agencies in the Biden administration are awash in recriminations and finger-pointing, as officials seek to explain why America’s longest war ended in not only defeat, but chaos. One theme that emerged from a series of interviews: There is plenty of blame to go around.
Top military officials, for example, are furious at Biden’s national security team because they wanted to start evacuating vulnerable Afghans as early as May but were not allowed to do so, multiple officials told NBC News. After their advice not to pull out was disregarded, Pentagon brass sought to exit as soon as possible in the interest of troop safety and planned to get all troops out by as early as July 4, according to a senior official.
As the July date approached, the White House grew concerned and ordered the military to delay and keep troops until Aug. 31, the official said.
CIA officials were taken aback by the rapid pace of the military’s pullout, including the dead-of-night withdrawal from Bagram Air Base in July, according to the former official. And many officials are expressing annoyance at the State Department, which officials say was extremely slow in processing the paperwork needed to deal with Afghan translators and others eligible for resettlement.
“Interagency coordination, especially among warfighters, diplomats and intelligence officers, is critical at times like this,” the former official said. “Obviously, it was deficient.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/cia-warned-rapid-afghanistan-collapse-so-why-did-u-s-n1277026
I watched his speech and it was greater than crayons and when he walked off I cried. I have watched political speeches since i was 6 . I rmember watching LBJ speak and I knew he would lose so he dropped in. I am proud of president Bidn
So...
Today looks like a day where the alky will be serving up an endless alky-lanche of excuses for Sloppy Joe's epic failure in Shithole-istan.
Whee!
Just on the political price. Not many Democrats are going to look like Biden supporters.
Getting out of any war is a tough path.
I'm not surprised with the new polls.
rrb doesn't understand what I'm saying.
I'm not supporting his decision, I'm just posting the news coverage.
He will probably pay a political price for his decisions. Right or wrong? Time will tell.
Chinese state-controlled media and Communist Party loyalists gloated on Sunday over America's "humiliation" as the Taliban marched into the Afghan capital, Kabul, forcing U.S.-backed president Ashraf Ghani to flee the country while his government crumbled. China is now offering to fund post-war construction efforts in Afghanistan as part of its Belt and Road Initiative, a sweeping Communist Party infrastructure project that has helped the CCP gain a foothold in many countries across the globe.
The catastrophe in Afghanistan provides China another opportunity to subvert U.S influence and power in critical regions such as the Middle East. While the Biden administration scrambles to secure the safety of Americans stationed in the country, China is exploiting the situation to send a warning to its regional enemies, primarily Taiwan. The CCP is also promoting Afghanistan as an example of American decline across the world: "The US lost. It was a no-brainer," tweeted Chen Weihua, editor of the Communist-controlled China Daily, on Monday.
"From what happened in Afghanistan, those in Taiwan should perceive that once a war breaks out in the Straits, the island's defense will collapse in hours and U.S. military won't come to help," the Global Times, an official CCP mouthpiece, tweeted on Monday. "As a result, the [Democratic Progressive Party of Taiwan] will quickly surrender."
https://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-touts-u-s-humiliation-in-afghanistan-in-warning-to-taiwan/
Our adversaries know full well that the US is led by a feckless, helpless imbecile.
In other news, Iran's nuclear centrifuges are running at 60% capacity.
I'm not supporting his decision, I'm just posting the news coverage.
So all you have to offer is plagiarizing news we've already read?
LOL.
I watched his speech too. Unlike most of the truthers I didn't see a confused old man. That's just political bias.
He actually took blame for his decision, unlike most others in the past. The Buck Stops Here. Like former President Harry Truman.
I suspect that not one of them actually watched him, but instead started reading the right wing media websites.
It's called propaganda for a reason. It influences their minds.
Instead of thinking for themselves.
Propaganda!
https://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-touts-u-s-humiliation-in-afghanistan-in-warning-to-taiwan/
Unlike Roger and James during the President Trump years who only wanted failure.
I want President Biden to do very well for our country, but can he.
I didn't believe that hiding out on the golf course and tweeting hundreds of times, without consulting with the military leaders and the daily intelligence briefings was the actions of a qualified President of the United States of America.
It costs his party power in the Congress and the White House.
You called it TDS.
You are infected with SJDS!
😀😀😀😀
He actually took blame for his decision, unlike most others in the past. The Buck Stops Here. Like former President Harry Truman.
FACT CHECK: FALSE.
Sloppy Joe blamed the Afghan army and Donald Trump. He took no blame, no responsibility, and no questions.
He failed by every conceivable measure, and even his most sycophantic supporters in the MSM were incredulous.
There's simply no way to spin this in his favor without LYING, which you are always wont to do around here alky.
He actually took blame for his decision, unlike most others in the past. The Buck Stops Here. Like former President Harry Truman.
You mean before he blame everyone from Trump to the Afghan themselves. Biden's speech was an exercise of cowardice and disingenuousness.
Kputz doesn't understand how politics works. If you disagree with someone else doesn't mean that you want to hurt the country.
Politics 101.
You failed
You read that on the internet. You didn't make up your own mind.
I'm just wondering who is the 45% who thinks he's doing a good job
Blogger Roger Amick said...
You read that on the internet. You didn't make up your own mind.
Pot calling kettle black.
Current and former intelligence officials insist there was no intelligence failure. Rep. Peter Meijer, a Michigan Republican, said on MSNBC’s "Morning Joe" on Tuesday that the intelligence community failed to detect efforts by the Taliban to bribe, cajole and threaten local Afghan government officials in a successful effort to induce their surrender.
But U.S. officials took issue with that, saying they were well aware of Taliban efforts. They also reported that the Afghan military had stopped guarding the roads into Kabul, a troubling sign of how easy it might be for the Taliban to advance.
“It takes some serious gall to be angry from inside the Pentagon when they were telling us two weeks ago that Kabul wouldn't fall for months, if at all this year,” said a senior congressional official who was regularly briefed on Afghanistan. The military, he said, “did not predict this complete collapse. So why would Biden be in a hurry if these military leaders were telling it wasn't going to fall?”
Biden said the U.S. did not evacuate Afghan civilians sooner because “some of the Afghans did not want to leave earlier — still hopeful for their country. And part of it was because the Afghan government and its supporters discouraged us from organizing a mass exodus to avoid triggering, as they said, ‘a crisis of confidence.’”
But now, for many Afghans, the crisis is of a different order of magnitude. Many are miles away from the only way out at the Kabul airport, trying to decide whether to hold on to documents that prove their service to the United States — documents that could earn them a flight out, but could also get them killed.
It is far too complex to determine whether it will succeed or not at this time.
I actually watched it live.
Did you????
Roger
It doesn't matter if you watched live, watched it later on Youtube or read the transcript.
I personally watched it after the fact. I specifically heard him imply that this "problem" was not of his own doing, but something that was passed on to him from the Previous Administration. I heard him criticize the Afghan army for not fighting hard enough. I heard him make weak excuses as to why he made his decisions based on what he was told by certain advisors. (What he didn't say is that he ignored other advisors - mainly the military advisors with the most first hand knowledge).
I heard him do everything but tell us that he made any sort of mistake.
The "Buck stops here" is only taking responsibility if you actually take responsibility. He acts as if the Buck should go through about a million and one filters before it bothers him. The fact that it is the last stop is once again not an admission of making mistakes.
Biden didn't just come out and say he was wrong, he fucked up, or they planned it incorrectly, or anything else that would be an honest admission of bad leadership. He defended it where he believes it accomplishes his goals and blamed everyone else for what went wrong.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Kputz doesn't understand how politics works. If you disagree with someone else doesn't mean that you want to hurt the country.
Politics 101.
You failed
Oh, you mean like when Rush Limbaugh said "I hope he fails" with regards to 0linsky and his agenda.
Your hypocrisy and hackery is duly noted alky.
The "Buck stops here" is only taking responsibility if you actually take responsibility.
What he actually did with that throwaway line was to plagiarize Harry Truman, just like he's plagiarized countless others over the years.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
I actually watched it live.
Did you????
Well good for you alky. You act like that was some sort of notable accomplishment.
It wasn't.
The United States will begin widely distributing Covid-19 booster shots next month as new data shows that vaccine protection wanes over time, top U.S. health officials announced in a joint statement Wednesday.
“The available data make very clear that protection against SARS-CoV-2 infection begins to decrease over time following the initial doses of vaccination, and in association with the dominance of the Delta variant, we are starting to see evidence of reduced protection against mild and moderate disease,” according to the statement signed by CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky, acting FDA Commissioner Dr. Janet Woodcock, White House chief medical advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci and other U.S. health leaders. “Based on our latest assessment, the current protection against severe disease, hospitalization, and death could diminish in the months ahead, especially among those who are at higher risk or were vaccinated during the earlier phases of the vaccination rollout.”
September 25th
Donald L. Luskin
DAMNNG IMAGE:
https://twitter.com/DonLuskin/status/1427727126971748365
When you wish the photo was faked. "Leave now" at the end of the speech on Biden's prompter yesterday.
Biden is obviously a puppet for ANYONE paying attention
and not trying to divert from the catastrophic Afghanistan exit failure
Biden OWNS this
"Leave Now"
they wrote it
* may be a fake but it sure acted like it was real
Biden OWNS this
Stay tuned for the Al Qaeda videos beheading and burning alive the Americans left behind.
Meanwhile, alky say -
It is far too complex to determine whether it will succeed or not at this time.
Emerald Robinson
https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1427928567598522369
The best chance for those 10,000 US citizens trapped in Kabul to get home is to dress up as Afghan tribesmen who want to relocate to Wisconsin to vote blue and then the Biden Administration might airlift them out.
put on Biden masks
The Taliban must love him
and they must be concerned with Covid over there too
It was live.
He read it from a teleprompter live.
I was prepared before he spoke live.
President's have been doing that since radio and television networks were available.
Even Abraham Lincoln read his speeches live in the 1860s
Taylor Budowich
https://mobile.twitter.com/TayFromCA/status/1427810360812261376
Tonight on Hannity President Trump is reminding America—and the world—what leadership looks like. The contrast between this interview and what we saw from Biden yesterday cannot and should not be understated.
Make America Great Again has never been more important. God bless 45.
Biden hides while Trump takes questions
Well Hunter is hiding too and he is the smartest man Joe knows
probably advising him
Joe is also hiding his Camp David visitor logs
Cernovich
IMAGES and THREAD:
https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1427742895042220032
Instagram is blocking people from posting “Loser” as a comment to Joe Biden’s post about the Afghanistan failure. (Two people sent me this, it’s not a “glitch.”)
That’s how much collusion there is now between big tech and the Biden WH.
I tried it myself.
“Loser” can’t be posted to Biden’s Instagram account at POTUS. Comment blocked for Community Guidelines.
I was able to post Loser one way but not another way.
This is Instagram directly censoring criticism of the President of the United States via his official account.
So you can't post "Biden is a loser"
but you can "Biden is definitely not a loser"
big tech interference and censorship
enemy of the people
1984
Blogger Roger Amick said...
It was live.
He read it from a teleprompter live.
So the fuck what???
Seriously, is your life so devoid of all meaning you think watching a dementia patient read a prompter for a few minutes is the second coming of the Gettysburg Address wrapped around the Magna Carta?
I listened to it live only because the web cast I was listening to cut to it.
Then I read the transcript.
My heart sank because I personally know guys who served in Afghanistan. Some on multiple deployments. I can only imagine how hurtful Biden's comments were to those who fought the scumbags Sloppy Joe just surrendered to.
I cannot imagine being the spouse or the child or the parent or the friend of someone who made the ultimate sacrifice there. There are not enough words in the English language to describe what a despicable piece of shit our president is.
The word "treason" comes to mind.
So you can't post "Biden is a loser"
Actually I'm ok with that. There's really no need to overstate the obvious. The whole fucking world knows that he's a loser.
A Japanese leader would've disemboweled himself in disgrace by now.
BIDEN IS A GIVER
Let's see what the Biden administration has given out so far:
To China, Biden has given more power and influence, chiefly by letting them do whatever the hell they want.
Also to China, Biden has given freedom from any responsibility for the Wuhan virus. Also Taiwan.
To the Taliban, he has given the entire country of Afghanistan.
To Russia, Biden has given a big-ass pipeline.
To illegal aliens, Biden has given either out-and-out amnesty or a "path to citizenship", which boils down to line-jumping ahead of all those trying to do it legally. Which is just amnesty wearing falsies and a wig.
But, to American citizens, Joe Biden has given:
--10,000 fellow Americans stranded in Afghanistan with no way out
--no XL pipeline
--high gas prices
--crippling inflation
--shortages of random consumer goods
--swarms of covid-infected illegal aliens
--a useless 'woke' military
--skyrocketing crime rates
--institutionalized racial hatred (CRT)
--armies of BLM/antifa thugs who will burn down your city at a moment's notice.
--endless lockdowns
--a sycophantic media that makes old school Pravda seem fair and objective
In short, the Biden junta's policies give comfort to our enemies and declares war on half of America.
(h/t Steve Scalise)
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/395230.php
Interesting that the economy is struggling .
Pass more spending because this is a sugar high economy.
The majority of the and even Republicans agree with the President.
Polls Show Solid Support for Withdrawal from Afghanistan
by staff, August 18th, 2021 5:46 AM EST
Although nearly everyone is horrified by the images of the chaotic U.S. military withdrawal from Afghanistan, the Biden Administration has broad support for ending the U.S. military role in that nation. Dina Smeltz and Emily Sullivan report that “the just-completed 2021 Chicago Council Survey, fielded July 7-26, shows that seven in ten Americans continue to back this decision.” Further,
When asked whether they support or oppose the decision to withdraw US forces from Afghanistan by September 11, 2021, the 2021 Chicago Council Survey finds that 70 percent of Americans support it (29% oppose). This support spans partisan affiliations, though larger majorities of Democrats (77%) and Independents (73%) than Republicans (56%) agree.
These results corroborate the findings of other polls conducted over the past several months. A May Quinnipiac poll found that 62 percent approved of President Biden’s decision to withdraw all US troops from Afghanistan by September 11 of this year, and an April Economist/YouGov poll found that 58 percent approved of the plan for withdrawal by September 11. The Economist/YouGov poll also found that majorities in military households (61%) and just over half of those currently serving in the military (52%) or those who served in the past (53%) supported the withdrawal.
https://thedemocraticstrategist.org/2021/08/polls-show-solid-support-for-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/
This support spans partisan affiliations, though larger majorities of Democrats (77%) and Independents (73%) than Republicans (56%) agree.
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