Tuesday, September 28, 2021

So now General Milley suggests that he was just easing tensions?

Somebody is lying here! My gut tells me it is Bob Woodward.

"I know, I am certain, that President Trump did not intend to attack the Chinese, and it is my directed responsibility, and it was my directed responsibility by the secretary, to convey that intent to the Chinese," Milley told the Senate Armed Services Committee on Tuesday.

So now we have a General who did not go behind his President's back because he thought the President was unhinged and about ready to start WWIII.  Rather, his Chinese counterpart may have come to him with bad intelligence suggesting that there was a possible attack on the way and he simply told them it wasn't true?

Um.... yeah. Someone is lying here. Neither explanation is a good explanation, but my gut tells me that a propagandist like Bob "didn't you used to be Bob Woodward" Woodward is more likely to provided a glorified version than a General.  But then again, why or where would the Chinese have gotten this sort of intelligence? 

None of this adds up to anything other than crapola on a stick. More TDS nonsense that got way more attention that it ever deserved. 


81 comments:

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Actually you are wrong again.


The Secretary of Defense directed General Milly to call the China military leader.

What they're saying: "I am specifically directed to communicate with the Chinese by Department of Defense guidance, the policy dialogue system. These military-to-military communications at the highest level are critical to the security of the United States in order to deconflict military actions, manage crises, and prevent war between great powers that are armed with the world's most deadliest weapons," Milley said in an opening statement before the Senate Armed Services Committee.

"The calls on 30 October and 8 January were coordinated before and after with Secretary Esper and acting Secretary Miller's staffs and the interagency.

 The specific purpose of the October and January calls were generated by concerning intelligence which caused us to believe the Chinese were worried about an attack on them by the United States," he continued."I know, I am certain that President Trump did not intend to attack the Chinese, and it is my directed responsibility, and it was my directed responsibility by the secretary, to convey that intent to the Chinese."

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.axios.com/milley-china-calls-trump-woodward-7972164a-b939-4779-8c88-2e1f1af6ec7b.html

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Under oath today he said that he was not acting on his own personal beliefs

 "I am specifically directed to communicate with the Chinese by Department of Defense guidance, the policy dialogue system. These military-to-military communications at the highest level are critical to the security of the United States in order to deconflict military actions, manage crises, and prevent war between great powers that are armed with the world's most deadliest weapons," Milley said in an opening statement before the Senate Armed Services Committee.

"The calls on 30 October and 8 January were coordinated before and after with Secretary Esper and acting Secretary Miller's staffs and the interagency.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.axios.com/milley-testimony-afghanistan-withdrawal-lloyd-austin-2e27f2da-dd96-42fd-85a9-9719bf465a42.html


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He said that the withdrawal was a disaster.

He said that the book said Thecoldheartedtruth about General Milly and the former President Trump.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

What they're saying: "I am specifically directed to communicate with the Chinese by Department of Defense guidance, the policy dialogue system. These military-to-military communications at the highest level are critical to the security of the United States in order to deconflict military actions, manage crises, and prevent war between great powers that are armed with the world's most deadliest weapons," Milley said in an opening statement before the Senate Armed Services Committee.

"The calls on 30 October and 8 January were coordinated before and after with Secretary Esper and acting Secretary Miller's staffs and the interagency. The specific purpose of the October and January calls were generated by concerning intelligence which caused us to believe the Chinese were worried about an attack on them by the United States," he continued."I know, I am certain that President Trump did not intend to attack the Chinese, and it is my directed responsibility, and it was my directed responsibility by the secretary, to convey that intent to the Chinese."

Milley also addressed the allegations surrounding his Jan. 8 phone call with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, during which he reportedly said he agreed with her that Trump was "crazy."

"I sought to assure [Pelosi] that nuclear launch is governed by a very specific and deliberate process. She was concerned and made various personal references characterizing the president," Milley said."I explained to her that the president is the sole nuclear launch authority, and he doesn't launch them alone. And that I am not qualified to determine the mental health of the president of the United States.""There are processes, protocols, and procedures in place, and I repeatedly assured her that there was no chance of an illegal, unauthorized, or accidental launch."


C.H. Truth said...

Actually you are wrong again.

I am wrong by quoting Milley?

He stated this:

I know, I am certain, that President Trump did not intend to attack the Chinese


So I knew that Trump wasn't going to attack China, Rat knew that Trump wasn't going to attack China, Balls, Cali, Kansas, and everyone else here knew that Trump wasn't going to attack China.

But you believed Bob Woodward like a fucking fool!

And now Milley just threw your hero under the bus by saying that he never believed Trump was going to attack China. Milley agrees with us.


Only fucking losers with TDS would believe an old fiction writer like Bob Woodward. I guess that included you? Are you still standing behind Woodward or do you now believe the General testifying under oath?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

More TLS nonsense you have saying, that got way more attention that it ever deserved. 


C.H. Truth said...

The issue at hand here Roger is simple.

Did Milley make these calls because he thought the President was deranged and about ready to start WWIII because he lost the election as you have suggested because Bob Woodward told you so?

If Milley truly believed that Trump was not going to attack China and was only responding to ridiculous claims from the Chinese... then this becomes mostly a non-issue. The main problem was that he was going behind the President because he thought the President was out to lunch.


Today he made it clear that Woodward and his book is fiction.

You didn't spend money to buy that piece of nonsense, did you Roger?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott he said that because the Chinese government was very concerned about how emotional Trump would act out.


"I know, I am certain, that President Trump did not intend to attack the Chinese."

It reduced concern by the Chinese government and militarily forces.

The Secretary of Defense ordered Milly to make the phone call!


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This should concern you as much as I do!

Top military leaders confirmed in a Senate hearing Tuesday they recommended earlier this year that the U.S. keep 2,500 troops in Afghanistan, and that they believed withdrawing those forces would lead to the collapse of the Afghan military.

Why it matters: Biden denied last month that his top military advisers wanted troops to remain in Afghanistan, telling ABC's George Stephanopoulos: "No one said that to me that I can recall."

Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Mark Milley and the head of U.S. Central Command, Gen. Frank McKenzie, declined to discuss specific conversations with Biden, but told senators it was their "personal opinion" that the U.S. keep 2,500 troops in Afghanistan.Milley stressed in his testimony: "I am required and the military commanders are required to give our best military advice, but the decision-makers are not required to follow that advice."

Driving the news: Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, Milley and McKenzie are testifying before Congress for the first time since the withdrawal.

_________

Did he intentionally lie? Or maybe he is Sleeping Joe Biden???

That's a serious question.



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You obviously haven't read the book but a lot of people who worked for Trump were clearly concerned about his compulsive behavior.


But you think the book is a Democratic hoax to get the Orange Monster.


TLS

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You read Redstate geezers

C.H. Truth said...

Scott he said that because the Chinese government was very concerned about how emotional Trump would act out.

Well that is not what Bob Woodward said. He stated Milley made the calls to China because "Milley" thought Trump was going to start a war.

Milley also suggested that the Chinese had "concerning intelligence" - not that they were worried about Trump being emotionally unhinged.


So why don't you just admit that you were wrong to believe Woodward?

Just admit that we were right when we said that Trump was never going to start war with China (as you have suggested).

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Separate them but I'm wasting my time arguing about this situation because
..you can't be objective

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) attempted to school Gen. Mark Milley during the Tuesday hearing about the Afghanistan withdrawal, but it didn't work out as he may have anticipated.

Cotton, who previously served in the U.S. Army, demanded to know why Milley hadn't resigned after his recommendations were rejected. Milley explained that isn't the way military service works.

"Senator, as a senior military officer, resigning is a really serious thing," said Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. "It's a political act if I'm resigning in protest. My job is to provide legal advice or the best military advice to the president. That's my legal requirement. That's what the law is. The president doesn't have to agree with that advice. He doesn't have to make those decisions just because we're generals."

Former President Donald Trump infamously proclaimed U.S. generals "don't know much because they're not winning." He later said, "I know more about ISIS than the generals do."

Milley explained that were he to resign just because President Joe Biden didn't take his advice, "It would be an incredible act of political defiance for a commissioned officer to just resign."

"This country doesn't want generals figuring out what orders we're going to accept and do or not," Milley continued. "That's not our job. It's critical. My dad didn't get a choice to resign at Iwo Jima. They can't resign, so I'm not going to resign. There's no way. If the orders are illegal, we're in a different place. If the orders are legal from civilian authority, I intend to carry them out."

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Chinese government was worried about Trump starting a war to remain in power.


General Milly was directed the make the two phone calls by the Secretary of Defense!

So he was not acting independently from civilian orders, against the Constitution separation of civilian and military actions.


rrb said...

So why don't you just admit that you were wrong to believe Woodward?

Just admit that we were right when we said that Trump was never going to start war with China (as you have suggested).



I'd say that at this point 90% of the remaining synapses that are firing in the alky's skull are coated in a TDS protein. It's kind of like Alzheimer's only it's caused by a searing, visceral, blinding hatred of Trump, and it can lead to the victim believing shit from places like Bob Woodward, Kevin Drum, Josh Marshall, Ezzie Klein, and Joy Reid.

And like Alzheimer's there in no known cure.


rrb said...



Gee,

Don't you wish we had Milley around when we dropped Fat Man and Little Boy on Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

What a service he could've provided to the Japanese.

C.H. Truth said...

Separate them but I'm wasting my time arguing about this situation because
..you can't be objective


No... I can be objective by taking the sworn testimony at face value and using common sense. Trump was never going to start a war with China and there is no evidence suggesting anything otherwise.

But if you are asking me to take ANYTHING that Bob Woodward states with any amount of seriousness... then we have an issue. There is nothing "objective" about taking a fiction writer and believing ANYTHING he states.


Especially when one of the biggest allegations Woodward made has now been proven to be a complete falsehood. So I believe NOTHING he writes. Which, of course, is consistent with being objective. Someone reading a book that they know contains completely false information and demanding others take it at any sort of face value is silly.

C.H. Truth said...

Roger...

were you gullible enough to buy Woodward's fiction book and pad his pocket? He knows where his bread is buttered. People with TDS!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Why it matters: Some Republicans have accused Milley of disloyalty and demanded he resign in the wake of the revelations, which were first reported in Bob Woodward and Robert Costa's new book. Milley insisted in his testimony the calls were completely appropriate and intended to de-escalate the possibility of conflict with China.

What they're saying: "I am specifically directed to communicate with the Chinese by Department of Defense guidance, the policy dialogue system. These military-to-military communications at the highest level are critical to the security of the United States in order to deconflict military actions, manage crises, and prevent war between great powers that are armed with the world's most deadliest weapons," Milley said in an opening statement before the Senate Armed Services Committee.

"The calls on 30 October and 8 January were coordinated before and after with Secretary Esper and acting Secretary Miller's staffs and the interagency.
 The specific purpose of the October and January calls were generated by concerning intelligence which caused us to believe the Chinese were worried about an attack on them by the United States," he continued."I know, I am certain that President Trump did not intend to attack the Chinese, and it is my directed responsibility, and it was my directed responsibility by the secretary, to convey that intent to the Chinese."

Milley also addressed the allegations surrounding his Jan. 8 phone call with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, during which he reportedly said he agreed with her that Trump was "crazy."

"I sought to assure [Pelosi] that nuclear launch is governed by a very specific and deliberate process. She was concerned and made various personal references characterizing the president," Milley said."I explained to her that the president is the sole nuclear launch authority, but he doesn't launch them alone. And that I am not qualified to determine the mental health of the president of the United States.""There are processes, protocols and procedures in place, and I repeatedly assured her that there was no chance of an illegal, unauthorized, or accidental launch."

His testimony proved Pier was completely correct.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...


"The calls on 30 October and 8 January were coordinated before and after with Secretary Esper and acting Secretary Miller's staffs and the interagency. 


He was directed to call by Secretary Esper and acting Secretary Miller's staffs .

He followed the law and the Constitution

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.axios.com/

rrb said...



Ultimately Milley had no fucking business talking to the Chicoms OR Pelosi, and by doing so he committed TREASON - STRAIGHT UP.

As Chair of the Joint Chiefs he takes his orders from the C in C, PERIOD.

Not the Chi-coms and certainly not from the Speaker, especially THIS fucking Speaker.

Cotton was right - Milley should've resigned. It's what honorable men do, and it's what traitorous pieces of shit NEVER do.


Myballs said...

Milley just threw that bitch Pelosi under the bus. Her hatred for Trump became an obsession.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You read other people who have read the book, who have a political agenda.

Instead of reading it yourself.

That's like what the Russians did for decades. Pravda was the only radio station available in the Soviet Union.


You have been brainwashed by the right wing media websites.

Anonymous said...

The Three Socialist Stooges of CHT Lost the debate, again.

The Three Socialist Stooges of CHT don't know anything about the US Economy.

I told you so.

"Fed Chairman Jerome Powell cautioned that the causes of the recent rise in inflation may last longer than anticipated."

The lies Team Biden say are easily exposed

C.H. Truth said...

He followed the law and the Constitution


Well goodie goodie gum drops.

He also didn't call China because he thought Trump was going to start another world war and he didn't tell Nancy Pelosi Trump was crazy.

Woodward is looking more and more like a hack.

Anonymous said...

CHT DEFEATS Alky , again.

"So I knew that Trump wasn't going to attack China, Rat knew that Trump wasn't going to attack China, Balls, Cali, Kansas, and everyone else here knew that Trump wasn't going to attack China.

But you believed Bob Woodward like a fucking fool!"

Myballs said...

Problem is, the authority Milley says he received he didn't have. No one has said yeah, I gave him the go ahead.

C.H. Truth said...

Instead of reading it yourself.

I am not dumb enough to read that book.

Only idiots with TDS would pay money to read that nonsense.


Did you buy the book?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

"The calls on 30 October and 8 January were coordinated before and after with Secretary Esper and acting Secretary Miller's staffs and the interagency

You have to get more hanging locations



Anonymous said...

Why does Traitor Joe, like Alky get every fucking thing so spectacularly wrong.

"Puerto Rico residents aren't getting monthly child tax credit payments."
CNBC

C.H. Truth said...

"The calls on 30 October and 8 January were coordinated before and after with Secretary Esper and acting Secretary Miller's staffs and the interagency

Acting Secretary Miller has already denied giving permission to make the phone call that Woodward suggested was made. Not sure if he had provided some permission for Milley to have a general conversation with China.

So perhaps Milley Miller, etc... have some sort of semantic miscommunication here.


But the bottom line is that Milley did not tell China that Trump was going nuts and might start a war, nor did he tell Pelosi that Trump was crazy. Those are fabrications (or outright lies) being peddled by Woodward the liar.


And some people were dumb enough to pay money for that book.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Prologue.

Two days after the January 6, 2021, violent assault on the United States Capitol by supporters of President Donald Trump, General Mark Milley, the nation’s senior military officer and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, placed an urgent call on a top secret, back-channel line at 7:03 a.m. to his Chinese counterpart, General Li Zuocheng, chief of the Joint Staff of the People’s Liberation Army. Milley knew from extensive reports that Li and the Chinese leadership were stunned and disoriented by the televised images of the unprecedented attack on the American legislature. Li fired off questions to Milley. Was the American superpower unstable? Collapsing? What was going on? Was the U.S. military going to do something? “Things may look unsteady,” Milley said, trying to calm Li, whom he had known for five years. “But that’s the nature of democracy, General Li. We are 100 percent steady. Everything’s fine. But democracy can be sloppy sometimes.” It took an hour and a half—45 minutes of substance due to the necessary use of interpreters—to try to assure him.

Anonymous said...

Traitor Joe Policies are working.

"Oil Hits Three-Year High " WAH

Federal Reserve chairman Powell 🚨Inflation cautioned that the causes of the recent rise in inflation may last longer than anticipated."

Yes, it called Socialism.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

When Milley hung up, he was convinced the situation was grave. Li remained unusually rattled, putting the two nations on the knife-edge of disaster. The Chinese already were on high alert about U.S. intentions. On October 30, four days before the presidential election, sensitive intelligence showed that the Chinese believed the U.S. was plotting to secretly attack them. The Chinese thought that Trump in desperation would create a crisis, present himself as the savior, and use the gambit to win reelection. Milley knew the Chinese assertion that the U.S. was planning a secret strike was preposterous. He had then called General Li on the same back channel to persuade the Chinese to cool down. He invoked their long-standing relationship and insisted the U.S. was not planning an attack. At the time, he believed he had been successful in placating Li, who would pass the message to Chinese president Xi Jinping. But now, two months later, on January 8, it was evident China’s fears had only been intensified by the insurrection. “We don’t understand the Chinese,” Milley told senior staff, “and the Chinese don’t understand us.” That was dangerous in itself. But there was more. Milley had witnessed up close how Trump was routinely impulsive and unpredictable. Making matters even more dire, Milley was certain Trump had gone into a serious mental decline in the aftermath of the election, with Trump now all but manic, screaming at officials and constructing his own alternate reality about endless election conspiracies. The scenes of a screaming Trump in the Oval Office resembled Full Metal Jacket, the 1987 movie featuring a Marine gunnery sergeant who viciously rages at recruits with dehumanizing obscenities. “You never know what a president’s trigger point is,” Milley told senior staff. When might events and pressures come together to cause a president to order military action? In making the president the commander in chief of the military, a tremendous concentration of power in one person, the Constitution gave the president the authority single-handedly to employ the armed forces as he chose. Milley believed that Trump did not want a war, but he certainly was willing to launch military strikes as he had done in Iran, Somalia, Yemen and Syria. “I continually reminded him,” Milley said, “depending on where and what you strike, you could find yourself in a war.”

C.H. Truth said...

Roger...


Were you dumb enough to buy Woodward's book or dumb enough to believe a single word he printed?


Just curious...

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

In making the president the commander in chief of the military, a tremendous concentration of power in one person, the Constitution gave the president the authority single-handedly to employ the armed forces as he chose. Milley believed that Trump did not want a war, but he certainly was willing to launch military strikes as he had done in Iran, Somalia, Yemen and Syria. “I continually reminded him,” Milley said, “depending on where and what you strike, you could find yourself in a war.” While the public’s attention was on the domestic political fallout from the Capitol riot, Milley privately recognized the U.S. had been thrust into a new period of extraordinary risk internationally. It was precisely the kind of hair-trigger environment where an accident or misinterpretation could escalate catastrophically. It was all unfolding fast and out of public view, which in some ways resembled the tensions during the Cuban Missile Crisis of October ber 1962 when the U.S. and the Soviet Union almost went to war. Milley, 62, a former Princeton hockey player, burly and ramrod straight at 5-foot-9, did not know what China would do next. But he did know, after 39 years in the Army and many bloody combat tours, that an adversary was the most dangerous when they were frightened and believed they might be attacked. If an adversary like China ever desired, he said, “They could choose to do what’s called a ‘first-move advantage’ or a ‘Pearl Harbor,’ and conduct a strike.”

C.H. Truth said...

Roger...


Were you dumb enough to buy Woodward's book or dumb enough to believe a single word he printed?


Just curious...

Anonymous said...

"Were you dumb enough to buy Woodward's book or dumb enough to believe a single word he printed?"CHT

Roger has admitted to providing personal information to be scammed , not Once , but Twice.
He is not at all smart.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

By law, the chairman’s role is one of oversight and adviser. The chairman is not in the chain of command. But in practice, the post is one of enormous power and influence held by some of the most iconic figures in military history, including Generals Omar Bradley, Maxwell Taylor and Colin Powell. Shortly after speaking with General Li on January 8, Milley called Admiral Philip Davidson, the U.S. commander of the Indo-Pacific Command that oversees China, on a secure line. Phil, Milley said, reminding him that as chairman he was not a commander. “I can’t tell you what to do. But you might reconsider those exercises right now. Given what’s going on in the United States, that could be considered provocative by the Chinese.” Davidson immediately postponed the exercises. The planned operations potentially had echoes of a similar 1980s incident when leaders in the then-Soviet Union believed the U.S. and the United Kingdom were going to launch a preemptive nuclear strike. A NATO military exercise called ABLE ARCHER greatly magnified those Soviet suspicions. Robert Gates, later the CIA director and defense secretary, said, “the most terrifying thing about ABLE ARCHER was that we may have been at the brink of nuclear war.” It was that brink that worried Milley. He was living in it.

C.H. Truth said...

Roger...


Were you dumb enough to buy Woodward's book or dumb enough to believe a single word he printed?


Just curious...

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Since you refused to buy it I'm letting you know everything he actually said, not property like you have become.

China was, by far, the most sensitive and dangerous relationship in American foreign policy. But U.S. intelligence showed the January 6 riot had not only stirred up China but caused Russia, Iran, as well as other nations to go on high alert to monitor the American military and political events in the United States. “Half the world was friggin nervous,” Milley said. Many countries were ramping up their military operating tempo and cueing spy satellites. The Chinese already had their Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR) satellites looking intently to see if the U.S. was doing anything erratic or unusual or preparing to conduct any kind of military operation. Milley was now on full alert every waking moment, monitoring space, cyber operations, missile firings, ship, air and ground movements, and intelligence operations.

He had secure phones in nearly every room of Quarters 6, the chairman’s residence at Joint Base Myer-Henderson Hall, Virginia, that would connect him instantly to the Pentagon war room, the White House, or combatant commanders throughout the world. Milley told his service chiefs of the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines—the Joint Chiefs—to watch everything “all the time.” He called National Security Agency (NSA) director Paul Nakasone and described his call with Li. NSA monitors worldwide communications.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This one will drive Scott crazy about the Insurrection

Milley had misled General Li when he claimed that the United States was “100 percent steady” and the January 6 riot was just an example of a “sloppy” democracy. To the contrary, Milley believed January 6 was a planned, coordinated, synchronized attack on the very heart of American democracy, designed to overthrow the government to prevent the constitutional certification of a legitimate election won by Joe Biden. It was indeed a coup attempt and nothing less than “treason,” he said, and Trump might still be looking for what Milley called a “Reichstag moment.” In 1933, Adolf Hitler had cemented absolute power for himself and the Nazi Party amid street terror and the burning of the Reichstag parliamentary building.

The reaction to the murder of George Floyd and the demonstrations that damaged buildings was much worse than the Insurrection!

1967

Anonymous said...

😂Roger AmickSeptember 28, 2021 at 2:36 PM

Since you refused to buy it I'm letting you know everything he actually said, not property like you have become.🤣 Roger is so fucked up.

Word Salad Queer Boi strikes again.

C.H. Truth said...

Roger...

Nobody is reading what you are C&P here.



So obviously you were dumb enough to buy the Woodward book.

Dumb enough to believe it.

Really stupid to repost it here like anyone would read or believe it.

Anonymous said...

Roger , why did you just call CHT "chattel"?

Anonymous said...

"C.H. TruthSeptember 28, 2021 at 2:45 PM

Roger...

Nobody is reading what you are C&P here."

Stopped reading it a long time ago.

Roger is always spectacularly wrong and can't debate economic, yet he cit -n-pastes about it.



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Pelosi.

“But it is a sad state of affairs for our country that we’ve been taken over by a dictator who used force against another branch of government. And he’s still sitting there. He should have been arrested. He should have been arrested on the spot. He had a coup d’état against us so he can stay in office. There should be some way to remove him. But anyway, it’s no use wasting your time on this. I appreciate that. Thank you, General. Thank you.”

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

“Thank you, Madam Speaker.”



Pelosi had a case, Milley realized. Her profound worries were well founded. Since the dawn of the nuclear age, the procedures, techniques, even the means and equipment, of controlling the possible use of the nukes had been analyzed, debated, and, at times, changed. Milley often said that the use of nuclear weapons had to be “legal” and the military did have rigorous procedures. But no system was foolproof, no matter how finely tuned and practiced. Control of nuclear weapons involved human beings and he knew that human beings, including himself, made mistakes. As a practical matter, if a president was determined to use them, it is unlikely a team of lawyers or military officers would be able to stop him.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

History will honor him.

Milley felt no absolute certainty that the military could control or trust Trump. Milley believed it was his job as the senior military officer to think the unthinkable, take any and all necessary precautions. He considered himself a closet historian and had thousands of books in his personal library. “Pulling a Schlesinger” was what he needed to do to contain Trump and maintain the tightest possible control of the lines of military communication and command authority. The move was a reference to an edict by former secretary of defense James Schlesinger to military leaders in August 1974 not to follow orders that came directly from President Nixon, who was facing impeachment, or the White House without first checking with Schlesinger and his JCS chairman, George Brown.

They did the same thing during Watergate and so did Henry Kissinger....
.
.Trump was unstable when he lost the election that he said today the big lie that you believe..m

C.H. Truth said...

good luck with your delusions Roger...

Hope you enjoy yourself!

rrb said...




Lt. Col. Scheller is behind bars and Traitor Milley walks free.

THAT'S just how fucked up we are as a nation right now thanks to unbridled Stage IV TDS.




Anonymous said...

Roger is unable to answer any question.

Did you buy the Woodward Book?

ME Answering = No.


Alky answering = ...........

Anonymous said...

RRB?
Do you heat with heating oil?

Anonymous said...

LOL
"September 28, 2021 - 02:14 PM EDTLeft warns Pelosi they'll take down Biden infrastructure bill"

Ok, VOTE.
Stop talking and get to the doing.

rrb said...


RRB?
Do you heat with heating oil?


Nat gas. Already prepping for unnecessarily higher prices, just like gasoline, just like food, just like everything that's more expensive simply because there's a dementia patient in the White House.

While more expensive, I can easily afford it. I feel bad for those that can't. The Farmer's Almanac is calling for a cold winter.

The Buy Large Mansions crowd can just burn entire fucking neighborhoods to the fucking ground to keep warm. Us normal folks have to do it the old fashioned way.


Anonymous said...

No worries, just some expected bumps giving the Failures of Biden.

😂34,299.99 −569.38 (1.63%)today

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According to Alky , the Stock Market "Is the US Economy"😆

Anonymous said...

See Roger. I asked RRB a question and in detail he answered it.

Something you should do, after all you fancy yourself as the smart person here.

Anonymous said...

I heat our home with firewood, 90 percent of it I get from a tree cutter.
Been getting wood from him for 16 + years.
He saves money by not taking it to the land fill.

rrb said...



Just had a 40 ft Silver Maple taken down. It was at least half dead, the main trunk the only part worth it for firewood but I don't have the equipment to deal with it (at least 42" diameter) so he hauled it away. I have a cord of nice seasoned ash coming for the fireplace. Like you I've been using the same wood guy for 15 years. Retired dairy farmer who owns enough standing timber to last me as long as I'll need it.

Did I say dairy farmer? I meant "milk cattle rancher."

Sorry.

LOL.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Sen. Dan Sullivan (R-AK) tried to troll Milley a little bit, asking him whether he believed the Chinese military would give him a heads-up before launching a hypothetical invasion of Taiwan.

Milley rejected the premise, forcing Sullivan to ask what he really wanted to know: is Woodward and Costa’s Peril accurate in reporting that Milley told his Chinese counterpart that if the U.S. were going to attack, Milley would call his counterpart and let him know ahead of time?

“If there’s going to be a war, if there’s going to be an attack, there’s going to be a lot of calls and tension ahead of time,” Milley told Sullivan, recounting his conversation with the Chinese general.

“I was communicating to my Chinese counterpart — on instructions, by the way — to de-escalate the situation, and I told him we were not going to attack,” he added, before suggesting that he was acting on what he believed to be Trump’s “intent” and not necessarily explicit orders.

“President Trump had no intent to attack,” Milley said. “If there was going to be an attack, there would be plenty of communications before.”

“I was being faithful to his intent,” Milley added of Trump.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I pre ordered the book from Amazon.


C.H. Truth said...

“I was being faithful to his intent,” Milley added of Trump.

Which Milley explained was the reasonable and prudent decision not to start a war with China. He believed Trump to be reasonable and prudent.

Boy oh boy... someone here "really" doesn't get it.

Caliphate4vr said...

Boy oh boy... someone here "really" doesn't get it.

Just like the days he spent claiming Obunghole care eliminated prex, when it pretty much done with HIPAA.

He digs in regardless of how stupid it makes him him look

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Milley was not going to allow an unstable commander in chief, who he believed had engaged in a treasonous violation of his oath, to use the military improperly. The Schlesinger revival, 47 years after Nixon, had been necessary, a wise check, carefully calibrated, Milley was sure. Was he subverting the president? Some might contend Milley had overstepped his authority and taken extraordinary power for himself. But his actions, he believed, were a good faith precaution to ensure there was no historic rupture in the international order, no accidental war with China or others, and no use of nuclear weapons.

He may have saved the world from the Orange Monster.

If Hillary Clinton had done the same thing and if General Milly was just as he did to her, you would be cheering to heaven.

I get it but you can't separate yourself from your beliefs.


Biden screwed up the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

He may have lied but getting out of our longest war in history was the right thing to do.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He was actually following the constitution. The President is the Commander in Chief.

“I was being faithful to his intent,” Milley added of Trump.


I know it sounds weird but you don't understand somethings because you don't have the ability.



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Boy oh boy... someone here "really" doesn't get it.

His name is S.Scott Johnson and I have been driving him crazy for 20 years.

C.H. Truth said...

Jesus Roger...

Milley told the Chinese that there was no threat.

He did so because he said he was being "faithful to the President's intent"

Which was that there was no threat to attack China.


Milley states outright that HE WAS CERTAIN THAT TRUMP WAS NOT GONG TO ATTACK CHINA



What part about Milley being CERTAIN that Trump was NOT going to attack is not able to enter that thick skull of yours?


C.H. Truth said...

General Milley direct quote:

"I know, I am certain, that President Trump did not intend to attack the Chinese, and it is my directed responsibility, and it was my directed responsibility by the secretary, to convey that intent to the Chinese,"


Roger:

General Milley believed that it was Trump's intent to attack China.



Gee... and Roger wonders why people don't take him seriously?

rrb said...



He digs in regardless of how stupid it makes him him look


Lucky for him he's locked down in a facility where he's not a threat to himself or others.

His level of stupidity can be fucking DANGEROUS.


JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...


FJB New York City edition.

VIDEO:

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people are starting to unite !

rrb said...



Milley was not going to allow an unstable commander in chief, who he believed had engaged in a treasonous violation of his oath, to use the military improperly. The Schlesinger revival, 47 years after Nixon, had been necessary, a wise check, carefully calibrated, Milley was sure. Was he subverting the president? Some might contend Milley had overstepped his authority and taken extraordinary power for himself. But his actions, he believed, were a good faith precaution to ensure there was no historic rupture in the international order, no accidental war with China or others, and no use of nuclear weapons.


This is pure fiction written by a fabulist with a knack for emptying wallets like yours.

I still believe Milley was out of line, but none of what Woodward wrote was true.

Not one fucking word.

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...


His level of stupidity can be fucking DANGEROUS.

What's amazing his is apparent unawareness

And trying to pass his condition on to others

Of course he may be able to figure something out if he considers his surroundings

but probably not


JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Catturd ™
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1442441128293199873

Watching sporting events now - you’d think the new National Anthem is F...JOE BIDEN!


JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Sean Davis

https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1442695034697129987

Our government gave billions in weapons to the Taliban, murdered an aid worker and his family (including 7 kids) and lied about it, got 13 troops killed, and abandoned thousands of Americans...and the only guy in prison for it is a Marine who said bad leadership caused all of it.



And what happened to making the terrorists who killed out troops pay ?

Joe ?, Kamala, ANYBODY ???

C.H. Truth said...

Rat...

According to Roger, what Woodward wrote will "always" be true. Even if it makes no sense, if it is denied by everyone involved, and even if there was evidence hitting Roger over the head like a 2 by 4 that it was fake.

But yeah... Roger is digging in his heels like the dog on the walk who wants to stop and sniff the other dog pee on the bush while you want to keep going. Only instead of wanting to sniff dog pee, he wants to sniff Bob Woodward's ass.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

"At no time was I attempting to change or influence the process, usurp authority, or insert myself into the chain of command, but I am expected to give my advice and ensure that the president is fully informed,"

C.H. Truth said...

Sure Roger...

And at no time is there any evidence that Trump was going to attack China and even General Milley states unequivocally that he believed that at no time was Trump going to attack China.


So where does that leave your fantasy of an unhinged Trump wanting to start WWIII by attacking China because he was upset about the election...

It's a fake bedtime story. It's something Bob Woodward created out of thin air to get SUCKERS like you to buy his book! LOL!!!!