Saturday, September 4, 2021

Tale of two opposing narratives that are actually not too far off at the end of the day

Saturday, September 4
Why Biden's Job Approval Ratings Have Taken a Major Hit - James Antle, DC Examiner
Biden Still Has Plenty of Time to Rebound Before the Midterms - Chris Cillizza, CNN

A new national poll from NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist showed Biden's overall job approval dipping to just 43%, with 51% disapproving. Even more worrisome for Biden? The percentage of people "strongly" disapproving of how he is doing the job (41%) is more than double the number (19%) "strongly" approving of his job performance.

Both articles provide the same basic reasons for Joe Biden's decline. Afghanistan, Covid,  and the economy seem front and center. On top of those reasons, the Examiner piece raises the Border and the surge in violent crimes, while Cillizza touches on the defection of Manchin (and Sinema) on the 3.5 trillion dollar spending spree. Obviously the Examiner piece is looking at some extras for what will be a problem for conservatives while Cillizza is looking at what will be a problem for liberals. 

What the Cillizza article fails to do is actually explain how Biden can rebound. The line from the headline is directly taken from the story, but in a manner that tosses out the suggestion that there is time, without much to go on as to how those approvals will rebound. Like a typical liberal, he doesn't point to anything tangible that Biden has to do differently, other than to change the narrative. For liberals it seems that governing takes a back seat to holding power. 

I believe that deep down both articles acknowledge the cold hard sad fact that our President is unlikely to rebound in terms of performance. He appears totally out of his league in dealing with these issue and oftentimes he appears out of touch with what is actually going on. The Examiner piece provides a scenario that appears for that reality and the Presidents dipping approval to be lasting, while the Cillizza article seems to suggest Biden must find something to attack Republicans for, as a means to rally the troops. Go figure. 

34 comments:

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

the cold hard sad fact that our President is unlikely to rebound in terms of performance. 

Kerry in the landslide.

It's very fluid, and different.

Unless something happens, I generally agree.


Look at the last four years.

Even before the pandemic began Trump's approval rating never hit 50%

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This is the biggest challenge. Or opportunity...

Sen. Joe Manchin, a critical moderate Democrat from West Virginia, said Thursday that he believed his party needed to take a "strategic pause" in its efforts to pass a $3.5 trillion stimulus package that Biden has cast as necessary to lift the country out of the economic hole Covid-19 dug for it. Without Manchin on board, Democrats lack the 50 votes they need to pass the stimulus bill unless and until they can convince a Republican senator to cross the aisle, which, um, isn't likely.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

SLDS SLDS SLDS SLDS SLDS

Is the same as TDS TDS TDS TDS.
 He appears totally out of his league in dealing with these issue and oftentimes he appears out of touch with what is actually going on. That's propaganda rhetoric.



C.H. Truth said...

Even before the pandemic began Trump's approval rating never hit 50%

And that helps Biden how?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

It actually shows how you are probably correct.

rrb said...



And that helps Biden how?

"But Trump!!!"

LOL.

As a very weak and very lame diversionary tactic to divert one's gaze from the steaming shit pile dumpster fire that is Slow Joe's presidency?

And by the way, where is the Cum-Allah in all of this? No sightings, no media coverage...

It's almost as if she doesn't exist.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

But this is probably his biggest challenge.

Why I Won’t Support Spending Another $3.5 TrillionAmid inflation, debt and the inevitability of future crises, Congress needs to take a strategic pause.

By Joe Manchin

Sept. 2, 2021 3:10 pm

The nation faces an unprecedented array of challenges and will inevitably encounter additional crises in the future. Yet some in Congress have a strange belief there is an infinite supply of money to deal with any current or future crisis, and that spending trillions upon trillions will have no negative consequence for the future. I disagree.

An overheating economy has imposed a costly “inflation tax” on every middle- and working-class American. At $28.7 trillion and growing, the nation’s debt has reached record levels. Over the past 18 months, we’ve spent more than $5 trillion responding to the coronavirus pandemic. Now Democratic congressional leaders propose to pass the largest single spending bill in history with no regard to rising inflation, crippling debt or the inevitability of future crises. Ignoring the fiscal consequences of our policy choices will create a disastrous future for the next generation of Americans.


I think that the infrastructure bill will pass. But this is a transitional era if the recovery bill is in danger.

Plus the medical experts say that the covid-19 virus and the Delta variance will be with us for years, and like the flu virus you will need a booster shot every year.

And because he is the President, it will hurt him politically.




anonymous said...

BTW.....WTF DOES HARRIS SIGHTINGS HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING....KINDA LIKE FUCKED DADDY SAYING NO EVIDENCE OF BIDEN VISITING THE WOUNDED TROOPS???? THE PARTY OF LINCOLN RELGATED TO NOTHING BUT SNIPING AND BS!!!!!!!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/manchin-pelosi-biden-3-5-trillion-reconciliation-government-spending-debt-deficit-inflation-11630605657?st=gtroqzkc4uo9s0g&reflink=share_mobilewebshare

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Jimmy Hitler Jr. is a misogynist and again the racist rodent.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The infrastructure bill will give the state governments some control over what and where they build bridges and other infrastructure projects.

One new program would offer $2 million grants to help planners set up a formal and more open process to determine which projects should get funding. The other gives officials access to new data sources to help set those priorities.

Federalist policy even by the President and the Democrats.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/infrastructure-bill-could-influence-how-states-select-transportation-projects-11630747801?st=4myachc7qtajjrm&reflink=share_mobilewebshare

rrb said...


I think that the infrastructure bill will pass. But this is a transitional era if the recovery bill is in danger.


Alky,

The word you seek is "transformational."

Transitional also works as we 'transition' from success to failure, from affordability to inflation, from ally to asshole, and from adversary to push-over.

I think that the infrastructure bill will pass.

Of course you do since it would be the single fucking stupidest thing we could do as a nation. It's an inflation bomb by every objective measure. All we can hope for is that you're as wrong about this as you are about everything. Manchin need only evaluate the harm that the bill brings to WV, and that should guide his decision.

Jimmy Hitler Jr. is a misogynist and again the racist rodent.

And I fucking OWN your nursing home ass, and don't you forget it.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

And again don't forget who is the President! If you think that he had nothing to do with this, you forget that he has more experience in governing than ever before...


Finally, they assess how a project, such as a widened road, would make the region more accessible, defined as whether people would be able to more easily move around their neighborhoods, even if they don’t use the road in question.

“It ties the benefits to people rather than to how well an individual road is performing,” said Chris McCahill, director of the State Smart Transportation Initiative, a research group at the University of Wisconsin that helped Virginia set up its program.

Academics have focused on such accessibility measures for decades. But only in the past few years have planners begun to incorporate them into transportation decisions, in part because they can get much more detailed data now than in the past, said Andrew Owen, a research fellow at the Center for Transportation Studies at the University of Minnesota.

For instance, planners can now map out how long it takes for people on every block to get to destinations such as jobs, grocery stores, schools or doctors’ offices and estimate how those travel times would change under different scenarios.

Focusing on those details could change how planners invest their money, said Mr. Owen.


rrb said...

One new program would offer $2 million grants to help planners set up a formal and more open process to determine which projects should get funding. The other gives officials access to new data sources to help set those priorities.


Oh good. Another pass through NGO that get's a taste of the $3.5TRILLION with no return to the taxpayers funding it at all.

Brilliant.

Alky, The business of government is only one thing - MOAR government. The gaping maw of the nanny state consumes everything and produces fucking nothing other than government dependency, which is of course the goal.

Here's a thought -

Let's take $3.5 TRILLION out of the treasury in $20 bills, make a huge money mountain in Lafayette Park directly across from the white house, and light it afire.

You will have achieved the same net result as the "infrastructure" (LOL) bill, and you could make it a festival of sorts.

Anonymous said...

Biden had a plan for Afghanistan.
Biden had a plan for Covid.
Biden had a plan for the Economy.
Biden had a plan for US Energy.

He has failed America.

anonymous said...

BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!! At you again, goat fucker and your lack of a plan!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No need to bring up donnie, a failure at every corner and policy!!!!!

BTW rat, it's only money, something you and your kind disregarded the past 4 years and now believe in Jesus!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

rrb said...



Academics have focused on such accessibility measures for decades.


And right there, in a fucking nutshell, is the fucking problem.

Whenever "academics" are involved, it can be guaranteed to be wildly expensive with no accountability for the outcome. The "academics" disappear at the first sign of failure, only to return to the scene of their crime looking solemn, stroking their chins, and determined to form a study at taxpayer expense to evaluate "what went wrong."

Ironically, "what went wrong" can usually be tracked back to involving the academics in the FIRST fucking place.

Alky, I can see why you're so enamored with academic credentials seeing as you possess exactly none. But as we've seen with all the "modeling" that was done by so many eggheads over Covid, academics are often spectacularly fucking WRONG. Yet we continue to listen to them because of all the credentials in their title. We listen at our detriment. Instead, let's lend an ear to us common folk who always end up picking up the fucking tab for the smart set's epic failures.



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

One other point is the Texas abortion law might hurt the Republican party because their strongest supporters are suburban middle class women. The rape and incest case is going to hurt the Republicans in the major cities. That were very close last election cycle.


rrb said...


As Bill Maher would say, "New Rules"...


Tying international aide and military assistance to a presidential favor is what precipitated Donald Trump’s impeachment. It should now lead to the impeachment of Joe Biden in the House, even if Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has shot down the idea should the GOP regain control of the Senate.

These are the consequences Joe Biden’s party has reaped — the eventual impeachment of every president going forward should the opposing party control the House. The Democrats are going to have to live with their actions, norms be damned, as they were warned. Joe Biden really shouldn’t be impeached for the conditions he set on that phone call, but that no longer matters. The game has new rules, and he is going to be made to play by them.

Should Biden be impeached over that phone call, or more appropriately for the avoidable deaths of 13 Americans, the most in a single day in Afghanistan since 2011, his party and their media allies will surely call it a sham and a political stunt. However, they won’t be able to say they weren’t warned.



https://spectatorworld.com/topic/impeaching-trump-democrats-shafted-biden/

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Increasingly irrational and hateful bs by rrb.


"Covid, academics are often spectacularly fucking WRONG. Yet we continue to listen to them because of all the credentials in their title. We listen at our detriment. Instead, let's lend an ear to us common folk who always end up picking up the fucking tab for the smart set's epic failures."

He believes that he knows more about medicines and science than anyone on earth...

rrb said...


One other point is the Texas abortion law might hurt the Republican party because their strongest supporters are suburban middle class women.

Bullshit wrapped in wishful thinking.

"Suburban middle class women" are wives, and member's of two-parent households who give birth to and raise, not KILL, their kids. They instill family values in their children, raining them, sending them off to school, seeing them grow into adulthood, and becoming grandmothers when their kids follow in their footsteps. As a drunken wife-beater, dad to a tranny, and the proud owner of multiple failed marriages I wouldn't expect you to understand ANY of this.

The women on your team are 0linsky's "Julia's." The ones who couldn't snag a husband so they effectively 'marry' the government and are reliant on Uncle Sugar to be their everything.


One side effect of the Texas abortion law that I read about yesterday is how it will act as a deterrent to folks moving there from Blue states. I had not thought about that bonus benefit but it certainly does make sense.

Anonymous said...

Biden had a plan for Afghanistan.
Biden had a plan for Covid.
Biden had a plan for the Economy.


He has failed America.

Anonymous said...

Hi Roger, why did your 1.2 Million newly employed jobs prediction fail to happen?

rrb said...



He believes that he knows more about medicines and science than anyone on earth...

Nope. I just know an assclown when I see one, and I lived, as we all did, through 18 months of "2 weeks to flatten the curve" essentially flattening a $23 TRILLION economy all because of a Bad Orange Man and his "mean tweets."


You should be proud of yourself alky. You and your ilk delivered us from the best economy in my lifetime to an abject failure by every objective measure. A killer of heroes, of an economy, and a "man" who left thousands of Americans to DIE behind enemy lines.

Now go wash your hands. They're covered in blood.



rrb said...

raining them = raising them

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Right Wing Bonus Tracks: Cleanse Your Soul

By Kyle Mantyla | September 3, 2021 5:30 pm

Self-proclaimed “prophet” Mark Taylor has returned after a lengthy absence to declare that COVID-19 vaccines are “genocide” and to demand that the entire Biden administration be arrested and tried for treason.


After having spent four years of praising and defending former President Donald Trump, Glenn Beck is now concerned about the Biden administration supposedly lying about Biden’s dog, Major, biting Secret Service agents: “If the current administration is willing to lie about something so meaningless to the American people, what else are they willing to lie about?

Bill Mitchell is mystified as to why “seditionist” George Soros is not in prison: “He is obviously guilty of seditious conspiracy! It is an open and shut case.”Shane Vaughn insists that Trump only pretends to support COVID-19 vaccines so as to produce “soundbites” that will be beneficial to him if he runs for president again in 2024.

Finally, Mario Murillo tells any Christian who voted for President Joe Biden that they must now cleanse their souls: “Everyone who falls under this heading has done evil and God will not hold you guiltless. When you voted for Biden, you made a statement. You said something—something you must face. … The iniquity of your vote still echoes in your soul. You wear a label. You bear a stain. You carry the stigma of a perverted generation who are shaking their fists at God.” perverted James!



C.H. Truth said...

He believes that he knows more about medicines and science than anyone on earth...

I don't know much about coaching an NFL football team, but I can look at the standings and see if someone is winning or losing games.

You don't need to understand medicine to see the failures and you are allowed to point out those failures whether or not you in a position to provide any advice.

Commander-in-Thief Biden said...

KansasDemocrat said...
Biden had a plan for Afghanistan.
Biden had a plan for Covid.
Biden had a plan for the Economy.
Biden had a plan for US Energy.

He has failed America.



It sure look like his "plans" all came from China

They couldn't be happier

though they may end up a bit confused with what to do with Hunter's "paintings"

Commander-in-Thief Biden said...

Buck Sexton
https://twitter.com/BuckSexton/status/1432775763032477704

One day someone will do an honest assessment of what the results would have been from this pandemic if we never listened to a single word Fauci said, and the conclusions from it will be enraging to those intelligent enough to believe them



Fauci needs to go

Apparently he can't even see Biden has dementia

What a quack

Caliphate4vr said...

KansasDemocrat said...
Biden had a plan for Afghanistan.
Biden had a plan for Covid.
Biden had a plan for the Economy.
Biden had a plan for US Energy.

He has failed America.


He’s on top of this

Priorities

Federal Government Looking Into McDonald’s Ice Cream Machines

Caliphate4vr said...

Another scintillating Big 10 game Wisconsin v Penn State

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

An Army base in Wisconsin is welcoming Afghan refugees. The same post helped Cubans fleeing the Castro regime in 1980
By Omar Jimenez and Bill Kirkos, CNN
Updated 4 hours ago Sep 4, 2021
(CNN) - As Afghans flee the Taliban regime and flow into the United States, they are landing in places like Fort McCoy, situated in rural Wisconsin.
It's the current temporary home for up to 13,000 recently-evacuated Afghan refugees, though Army officials would not disclose the actual number on base.
Marcos Andres Hernandez Calderon lives in nearby La Crosse, Wisconsin and knows their situations all too well, and just how difficult it will be for this generation of refugees.
Calderon was one of the thousands who came to the same Fort McCoy, fleeing Fidel Castro's Cuba as a refugee more than 40 years ago, first coming by boat to southern Florida.
"You can see you how your country disappears in your eyes. You don't know when you're gonna go back there, when you're gonna see your family again," Calderon told CNN, choking back tears as he pleaded for people to put themselves in the shoes of these refugees, shoes he once wore. "So you feel what they feel. It's not easy, you know. Being separated from your family, coming to a country where you just don't know anything. I don't know the language, I don't know the people, you don't know how the people are gonna like or dislike you."
The conditions of the 1980 Cuban refugee influx, otherwise known as the "Mariel Boatlift," were different from what the thousands of Afghan refugees are fleeing from now. Named for the Port of Mariel, west of Havana, these "Marielitos" left after Castro announced they could, in numbers that eventually grew to roughly 125,000 people, primarily making the journey by boat.
A number of them had been released from Cuban jails and mental health facilities, making for what at times was a volatile population inside places like Fort McCoy at the time.
"Living in there was uhh... it was something," Calderon said through a laugh. "It was people from mental hospitals, it was people from prison, it was people from the government, it was people from everywhere and a lot of them didn't like each other. Sometimes you got fights, sometimes you danced, sometimes you hear music."
It's a situation he and other Cubans like him in the rural Wisconsin area see as different from what's happening now.
"I don't think they're going to fear as much as we did because they came asking for asylum due to the war that was going on over there," said Jose Lores, a 64-year-old former Cuban refugee who arrived in southern Florida by boat in June 1980 before being taken to Fort McCoy. "They know they were being persecuted and they [the Taliban] were going to kill them. They're going to have to thank God for America because America open the door to receive them."
"Just because you don't know them, they are a different race, they're a different color, it doesn't matter. We're all human, and we all deserve a second chance," said Norberto Gomez Mendez, a 63-year-old former Cuban refugee. "I believe that here in America you open the door to the whole world, America is built from people that immigrate from everywhere in the world."


Thanks Sleepy Joe Biden and Kamala Harris rrb's nightmare

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Scott Johnson aka Chtruthless said:
"...the Cillizza article seems to suggest Biden must find something to attack Republicans for, as a means to rally the troops."
________

The GOP is giving Biden an excellent opportunity to do that by taking its grossly unpopular stand on a woman's right to make her own decisions regarding the difficult issue of abortion.

Also, as time goes on, and more and more unvaccinated and maskless people sicken and even die, including children in Republican governed states which are trying to keep municipalities and districts from mandating safety measures for their local schools, it will become ever clearer how much responsiblity Donald Trump still bears for our continuing Covid crisis resulting in skyrocketing cases and deaths.