Tuesday, November 16, 2021

Branca over at Legal Insurrection suggests defense had weak closing...

He didn't have anything good to say about the prosecution either...

DEFENSE DELIVERS DISAPPOINTINGLY WEAK CLOSING ARGUMENT

This is an unpleasant task because on the legal merits Kyle Rittenhouse ought to be acquitted by a unanimous jury on every one of the five felony accounts against him, with the State having failed to prove provocation beyond a reasonable doubt and having failed to have disproven self-defense beyond a reasonable doubt.

And that may still happen. I hope it does. He deserves those acquittals.

That said, I’m well aware that sometimes defendants who deserve acquittal end up getting convicted, regardless.  There might be many reasons that could occur.  One of those reasons is a weak legal defense, and particularly a weak defense in the critical closing argument, the last opportunity the defense team has to plead their narrative of innocence to the jury.

Now I didn't actually watch the closing. I did read most of the transcript. Some of this is going to be the angry tone, the angst with the prosecution, as well as the overall attitude that is not reflected in the written word. That being said, there really isn't much of a fan club for the prosecution either. It feels like maybe neither side took full advantage of the situation. 

I think Branca considered this a slam dunk acquittal and is disappointed that there is a chance of conviction. He is also a trial lawyer and an expert in self defense with the advantage of hindsight and the ability to look from the outside of things. From what I did see, there are some undeniable points made by the defense, even if there was some opportunities missed.

All that being said, the closing arguments are just a portion of the trial. What the prosecution stated in closing is not backed by what was witnessed at the trial, whereas the defense had the benefit of using the actual testimony and other physical and medical evidence to their advantage. 

Who knows what will happen. I suspect that we might see a hung jury on at least one of the counts, but I believe it's hard to see anything but acquittal in terms of the Grosskreutz portion. He literally admits he was aiming the gun at Rittenhouse's head when he was shot. Huber was assaulting Rittenhouse and also attempting to gain control of the gun. I would guess that Rosenbaum is the prosecution's best chance, but it still feels like a stretch. 

I honestly believe that there will be at least one juror in a Wisconsin jury who will be more than sympathetic towards Rittenhouse and not overly emotionally tied to any of the people shot. To convince a juror or two that Rittenhouse is guilty is one thing. To convince all 12 is another. That being said, who knows what comes of these things. Will they all decide to compromise on some charge just because they feel it to be "fair". Who knows. 


78 comments:

rrb said...



Best possible outcome? Acquittal, obviously.

My prediction of probable outcome? Hung jury. There has got to be at least a couple of leftist retards on the jury willing to go to the mat to fuck this up.

Junkie Floyd taught us that facts don't matter. Emotional blackmail matters. Mob rule matters. Facts? Not so much.

Anonymous said...

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The punk killed 2 people on the bullshit he was protecting himself.....The videos clearly show there was more than that!!!!!! He, his mother and gun buddy should all serve time together!!!!!!

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Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Justice will be served in your mind about the death of a drug addicted black man.


Anonymous said...

Goat fucker....try and follow the thread.......BWAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

LONDON (AP) — Drugmaker Pfizer Inc. has signed a deal with a U.N.-backed group to allow other manufacturers to make its experimental COVID-19 pill, a move that could make the treatment available to more than half of the world’s population.

In a statement issued Tuesday, Pfizer said it would grant a license for the antiviral pill to the Geneva-based Medicines Patent Pool, which would let generic drug companies produce the pill for use in 95 countries, making up about 53% of the world’s population.

The deal excludes some large countries that have suffered devastating coronavirus outbreaks. For example, while a Brazilian drug company could get a license to make the pill for export to other countries, the medicine could not be made generically for use in Brazil.

Still, health officials said the fact that the deal was struck even before Pfizer’s pill has been authorized anywhere, could help to end the pandemic quicker.

“It’s quite significant that we will be able to provide access to a drug that appears to be effective and has just been developed, to more than 4 billion people,” Esteban Burrone, head of policy at the Medicines Patent Pool, said.

He estimated that other drugmakers would be able to start producing the pill within months, but acknowledged the agreement wouldn’t please everyone.

“We try to strike a very delicate balance between the interests of the (company), the sustainability required by generic producers and most importantly, the public health needs in lower and middle-income countries,” Burrone said.

Under the terms of the agreement, Pfizer will not receive royalties on sales in low-income countries and will waive royalties on sales in all countries covered by the agreement while COVID-19 remains a public health emergency.

Earlier this month, Pfizer said its pill cut the risk of hospitalization and death by nearly 90% in people with mild to moderate coronavirus infections. Independent experts recommended halting the company’s study based on its promising results.

Pfizer said it would ask the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and other regulators to authorize the pill as soon as possible,

Since the pandemic erupted last year, researchers worldwide have raced to develop a pill to treat COVID-19 that can be taken at home easily to ease symptoms, speed recovery and keep people out of the hospital. At the moment, most COVID-19 treatments must be delivered intravenously or by injection.

Britain authorized the Merck’s COVID-19 pill earlier this month, and it is pending approval elsewhere. In a similar deal with the Medicines Patent Pool announced in October, Merck agreed to let other drugmakers make its COVID-19 pill, molnupiravir, available in 105 poorer countries.

Doctors Without Borders said it was “disheartened” that the Pfizer deal does not make the drug available to the entire world, noting that the agreement announced Tuesday also excludes countries including China, Argentina and Thailand.

“The world knows by now that access to COVID-19 medical tools needs to be guaranteed for everyone, everywhere, if we really want to control this pandemic,” said Yuanqiong Hu, a senior legal policy adviser at Doctors Without Borders.

The decisions by Pfizer and Merck to share their COVID-19 drug patents stands in stark contrast to the refusal of Pfizer and other vaccine-makers to release their vaccine recipes for wider production. A hub set up by the World Health Organization in South Africa intended to share messenger RNA vaccine recipes and technologies has not enticed a single pharmaceutical to join.

Fewer than 1% of Pfizer’s COVID-19 shots have gone to poorer countries.

Commonsense said...

Given the brief description I read of jury. It tends to be a group that values law and order and would resentful of outside thugs coming into their city to loot and burn.

They would be more sympathetic toward Rittenhouse who came to town to help protect the city.

Commonsense said...

LONDON (AP) — Drugmaker Pfizer Inc.

What does this have to do with the trial. If we wanted to, we could read this press statement from the original source.

rrb said...




Why do you need to make this about Junkie Floyd, alky???

It's not. Everyone involved is/was WHITE.

The psychological projection of racism is the hallmark of the mentally ill leftist.




Commonsense said...

Why do you need to make this about Junkie Floyd, alky???

There were convictions in that case. Roger can't take yes for an answer.

rrb said...



What does this have to do with the trial. If we wanted to, we could read this press statement from the original source.


Alky can't let a day go by without a commitment to being a plagiarizing, off-topic asshole.

rrb said...


There were convictions in that case. Roger can't take yes for an answer.

Indeed.

Someone once told me that the only thing angrier than a leftist who has LOST an election is a leftist who has WON an election.

The left makes martyrs out of the worst among us, be it Junkie Floyd or that scumbag child rapist Rittenhouse wasted with a few well-placed taxpayer relief shots.

I'll never understand that mentality, however I would classify it as a legitimate mental illness.

rrb said...



When you reach "peak fucktard":

It’s a stretch, but we can get there. A white teen is on trial for killing two white men. However, these two white men were at a Black Lives Matters protest and were expressing their anger at the shooting of Jacob Blake by, as the prosecution itself testified, tipping over portable toilets, setting dumpsters on fire, swinging chains around, and tipping over a trailer in the middle of the road and setting it on fire to block traffic.

So it’s because these three “selfless heroes” were rioting in the name of racial justice that this trial has become about race. Rittenhouse went to Kenosha to help protect businesses that should have been burned down in the name of racial justice, so he’s a white supremacist.

We wondered if Gregory McKelvey was a parody account, but he has his pronouns in his bio and says he’s the vice-chair of the Oregon Dems Black Caucus. So he’s the real deal, and he really thinks employers should give blacks a couple of days off after the verdict because either way, it’s going to be hard for them to work.


https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/11/15/blue-check-suggests-giving-black-employees-a-couple-of-days-off-after-the-rittenhouse-verdict-regardless-of-the-outcome/

Anonymous said...

China owns Joe

Anonymous said...

BLM promises Riots.
FBI does nothing.
National Guard called UP.

Socialism is always violent.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

So much attention on this trial, expressed here strictly along partisan lines, is sad, for it will not lead to the healing and helping of America.

FAR MORE IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER IS THIS:

PLAYBOOK PREDICTS:
Another Long Week Ahead
November 16, 2021 at 8:30 am EST

“Tough luck if you’re a House staffer or reporter. The lower chamber looks like it could be headed for yet another late-night Friday — or weekend session — as Pelosi lays down the latest edict on Build Back Better: No Thanksgiving break until the House passes the bill."

EVEN MORE IMPORTANT:

THE NEW YORK TIMES ASKS:
Will Biden’s Big Win Turn Around His Political Fortunes?

7:22 am EST

“The president and his aides are hoping that the highly choreographed event will begin to allow Mr. Biden to find his footing. They are betting that the bipartisan victory will allow him to project sustained progress in confronting the nation’s problems — not just being different from former President Donald J. Trump.

“Will Monday’s victory be the steppingstone that Mr. Biden needs for a political turnaround, proving to voters that they got what they expected when they put him in office last year?
Or will it be a blip in time, destined to be quickly forgotten among the Washington rancor that is on the way in the days ahead?”

JONATHAN BERNSTEIN PREDICTS:
Biden’s infrastructure win won’t make him more popular.

MY OWN OPINION:
I think the nation is HUNGRY now for something positive, something that will show the way forward, something that cannot be derailed by the constant carping that goes on among politicians, some sign that we have some leaders WHO ARE WILLING AT LAST TO WORK TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD OF THE NATION.

IOW, despite all the problems Biden is facing, most of them not of his own making, this could indeed be the beginning of better fortunes for his presidency.

anonymous said...

China owns Joe

While stupidity owns the goat fucker........BWAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

ROGER'S 7:16 POST IS ALSO OF FAR, FAR MORE IMPORTANCE THAN THIS TRIAL.

Anonymous said...

*for it will not lead to the healing and helping of America.*

Which is exactly what this blog's host hopes.

Caliphate4vr said...

And pedo spams shit no one will read.

SSDD

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

NOAH SMITH SAYS MUCH THAT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT I SAY:

The Patriotic Silent Majority
9:19 am EST

Noah Smith:
“So here we have a situation where most Americans love their country and have no one to represent that love in the political arena.
They’re forced to choose between one movement that vilifies the idea of America,
and another that vilifies the America that actually exists.
The patriotic silent majority is politically and ideologically homeless right now.

“Whichever movement can reverse course and tack back toward patriotism first will, I predict, encounter a deep and eager reservoir of positive energy and support. Obviously, being on the progressive side of things myself, I hope Dems come up with the next JFK before Republicans come up with the next Reagan. But someone needs to try patriotism soon, because to not do so would be madness.”

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Every time someone claims that I desire little boys, my wife laughs. :-)

Commonsense said...

ROGER'S 7:16 POST IS ALSO OF FAR, FAR MORE IMPORTANCE THAN THIS TRIAL.

No, it has nothing to do with the US. Why would it be "more important?

This topic thread is about the trial. If Roger wants to start a new thread then he can start it in the legacy blog.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The distribution of a simple pill used to immunize 50% of the world's water is potentially the most important solution of the covid-19 virus and pandemic, is the most historic event since it came out of the laboratory in China.

It doesn't require an injection.



Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Commonsense is not the dictator of this blog.

Commonsense said...

Neither are you Elmer. But you are the one who unilaterally breaks the rules.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

The "rules"? Sure, you and Ch want to emphasize the sad spectacle of this trial. Sorry, but there are those of us who actually love this nation.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

On top of that, they will not make a profit!

Merck, Ridgeback Therapeutics and Emory University -- the creators and license holders of the antiviral -- will not receive royalties for these sales for the length of time that Covid-19 remains a Public Health Emergency of International Concern under World Health Organization classifications, they said.

This moment in time is far more important than Scott's fixation on the death of a drug addicted black man.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

AXIOS SAYS that
GOLDMAN SACHS PREDICTS:
Inflation Surge Expected to Get Worse
9:12 am EST

Goldman Sachs says the current inflation surge “will get worse this winter before it gets better."

NOT GOOD NEWS,
BUT IT WILL GET BETTER.


VERY GOOD NEWS:

Vaccine Boosters Coming for All Adults
9:10 am EST
“The Biden administration is expected to begin the process of expanding the booster authorization to all adults as early as this week.

“America’s booster campaign got off to an underwhelming start, potentially leaving millions of vulnerable people at risk as the holidays approach.”

NOT GOOD. BUT WE WHO LOVE AMERICA CAN TRY TO CATCH UP.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Roger's 8:40: Good news on top of good news!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Pfizer signs license agreement to allow broader global access to its experimental Covid-19 antiviral pill

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/16/health/pfizer-antiviral-pill-global-access/index.html

rrb said...



Well, boo hoo. The big leagues are tough on everyone, as Harris discovered two years ago while flaming out of the Democratic pre-primaries. Harris didn’t even make it to Iowa despite having the best set-up for the nomination of anyone except Biden himself. Harris came from the most populous state, which had just moved its primary up to the beginning of the schedule; she had national name recognition; and Harris had two diversity cards to play rather than just the one most of her competitors had in the 2020 primary cycle. Harris got beaten like a drum not once but twice by Tulsi Gabbard and utterly exposed as a lightweight who had never once faced a truly competitive political fight until 2019.

The problem with Harris is not that she’s not being well prepared, but that she’s just not up to the task of being VP, let alone president. As a legislator, she could operate as one of 100 in a group, but as an executive, she has to stand out on her own. Time after time, Harris ends up falling on her face while making that attempt, a pattern she established long before she got inexplicably chosen as Biden’s running mate.


https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2021/11/15/cnn-politico-man-is-harris-tanking-or-what-n429198


The collapse of every aspect of this presidency is a beautiful thing to watch.


Myballs said...

Meme of the day

Good thing store shelves are all empty for when the looting starts

rrb said...



LMAO:

California City Declares Itself a 'Sanctuary City' Against Vaccine Mandates

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/chris-queen/2021/11/15/california-city-declares-itself-a-sanctuary-city-against-vaccine-mandates-n1532967

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

RRB, Commonsense has pointed out that you are not on the thread subject.

MEANWHILE, HERE ARE TWO EXAMPLES OF HOW OFF THE RAILS TRUMP HAD GONE, AND THOSE CLOSEST TO HIM KNEW IT:

MSNBC REPORTS:
Mnuchin Weighed Invoking 25th Amendment
9:32 am EST

After the January 6 insurrection, Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin spoke with other Cabinet members about attempting to remove Donald Trump from office through the 25th Amendment.

But the idea was “quickly jettisoned” once Mnuchin recognized how difficult the path would be, especially since Education Secretary Betsy DeVos and Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao were resigning.


THE INSIDER REPORTS:
Trump’s Last Defense Secretary Pretended to Be Insane
9:22 am EST
Christopher Miller, who became acting secretary of defense following the firing of Mark Esper, sought to dissuade former President Donald Trump from attacking Iran by acting like a ‘fucking madman’ and walking Trump through just how destructive such an attack would be.

Said Miller:
“I would play the fucking Madman. And everybody else would be like, ‘All right, he’s the new guy. He’s fucking insane. Don’t listen to him.’ I was like, ‘Hey, if we are going to do this shit, let’s do it.'”
_______

IOW, Miller was just pretending to be like Trump, to get people to object. That's how preposterous the Trump presidency was.

Historians will have a field day. No, MANY field days.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump’s Last Defense Secretary Pretended to Be Insane

November 16, 2021 at 9:22 am EST By Taegan Goddard 16 Comments

“Christopher Miller, who became acting secretary of defense following the firing of Mark Esper, sought to dissuade former President Donald Trump from attacking Iran by acting like a ‘fucking madman’ and walking Trump through just how destructive such an attack would be,” Insider reports.

Said Miller: “I would play the fucking Madman. And everybody else would be like, ‘All right, he’s the new guy. He’s fucking insane. Don’t listen to him.’ I was like, ‘Hey, if we are going to do this shit, let’s do it.'”

rrb said...



LMAO.

More of Lil Jonny Karl's "rock solid" anonymous sources.

James's Fucking Daddy said...

Glenn Greenwald

EXAMPLE:
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1460395164376121344


As I keep saying, the primary source of disinformation, fake news and lies is not Facebook, QAnon or 4Chan but corporate media outlets. @JoeNBC by himself has spread multiple, foundational lies about the Rittenhouse case


state media and its supporters keep getting worse

Hard to believe that was possible

James's Fucking Daddy said...

Chad Prather
https://twitter.com/WatchChad/status/1460460997412630528


Today a guy trying to convict a kid for how he handled a gun in public incorrectly handled a gun in public.



he should be disbarred

James's Fucking Daddy said...

Susan St. James
https://twitter.com/SusanStJames3_/status/1460405193829494784


Apparently CNN did not air the defense's closing arguments today in the Rittenhouse case, only the prosecutor's. This is why their ratings are near zero. They are liars.



state media

enemies of the people

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

James get a look at hero worship in history..

 Conrad Black

November 15, 2021

In his most recent column, George Will, dean of serious American political commentators and high priest of Trump-hate, broke new ground in the reconciliation of buyer’s remorse over last year’s election and visceral aversion to Donald Trump. Will counseled Joe Biden’s entourage to tighten the cocoon that protects him from journalistic scrutiny or any form of spontaneity in public, lest Trump be reelected in 2024. 

I have agreed with Will on almost everything between the 1964 and 2016 elections, and we have been cordial acquaintances for 40 years, although among its other regrettable side effects, the Trump phenomenon seems to have paused contact between us. George Will now purports to believe that the disappearance of Trump, which he had assured himself and his readers was inevitable if it were only possible to evict him from office last year, is necessary for the restoration of two-party rule.

With respect, I offer an alternative view. Trump is instrumental in the restoration of two-party rule. 

Will and I were soldiers of approximately equal fervor, though grossly unequal influence, in our support of Ronald Reagan. As that splendid and successful era came to an end, he described Reagan’s successor, George H. W. Bush, as speaking with “the tinny arf of the lapdog.” I then thought this an unjustly dismissive opinion, but the senior Bush did allow an outright political charlatan, Ross Perot, to seize 20 million mainly Republican votes, bringing down the Clintons upon America. This was the end of two-party rule: for eight consecutive terms, 32 years, (1981-2013) one member or other of the Bush and Clinton families was president, vice president, or secretary of state. The Bushes, Bob Dole, John McCain, Mitt Romney: all generally said that they would do as the Democrats did but would do it better

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://amgreatness.com/2021/11/15/trump-is-necessary-to-restore-two-party-rule/


Even George W Bush is a Democrat in disguise.

James's Fucking Daddy said...


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FANTASTIC VIDEO REVIEW OF THE MEDIA AND THE RITTENHOUSE CASE !!!

https://tv.gab.com/channel/gee/view/tucker-carlson-media-and-big-tech-619374b9b3d7d282f9e55b18


I can see why liberals are desperately flailing trying to divert from discussing

MUST WATCH for those who want to really see the "other" side

and burst out of the state media bubble

1984

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

It's a slow motion coup.

Supported by highly educated and respected people Adolf Hitler rose to power in 1932.

But unfortunately Scott Johnson will never recover from Trumpism.


rrb said...


Blogger Roger Amick said...

It's a slow motion coup.


WAS, alky.

A failed coup, named crossfire hurricane and fueled by the Clinton Dossier.

Arguably the worst dirty trick ever pulled in the history of American politics.

Your psychological projection is ALWAYS acknowledged on this topic alky. That, and your never ending devotion to breaking Godwin's Law.

Now go jerk off to your poster of Junkie Floyd.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

In a key clinical trial, the Pfizer pill, which will be sold in wealthy countries under the brand name Paxlovid, was found to be strongly effective in preventing severe disease when given to high-risk unvaccinated study volunteers soon after they started showing Covid symptoms.

The pill is urgently needed in places where few people have yet had the opportunity to be vaccinated. And because it is a pill that can be taken at home, it will be much easier to distribute than treatments that are typically given intravenously.

“This is going to be really important for low- and-middle income countries, because it’s easy to take, just a short course of five days, and potentially relatively cheap to produce,” said Charles Gore, executive director of the Medicines Patent Pool.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

In a key clinical trial, the Pfizer pill, which will be sold in wealthy countries under the brand name Paxlovid, was found to be strongly effective in preventing severe disease when given to high-risk unvaccinated study volunteers soon after they started showing Covid symptoms.

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Caliphate4vr said...

Hey Alky Emory has an $8B endowment

Mighty big of them

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Sleepy Joe Bidennomics is working better than expected!


American consumers spent more at the start of the holiday shopping season, brushing off concerns about higher prices at retailers last month.

Sales at U.S. retail stores, online sellers, and restaurants rose by a seasonally adjusted 1.7% in October compared with the previous month, the Commerce Department said. Consumers continued their stepped-up spending despite continued Covid-19 fears and inflation concerns.

Spending rose sharply, by 4%, at online retailers, along with big gains at electronics, appliance and hardware stores. Grocery-store sales rose by 1.1% while restaurant and bar sales were flat. Other gains occurred at gas stations, where sales rose 3.9%, and auto dealerships, with a 1.8% gain.

Walmart Inc. on Tuesday reported higher sales in the third quarter, saying it increased prices as more consumers shopped early for the holidays. The retailer said U.S. inventory rose as it prepare for “an expected strong holiday season.” Home Depot Inc., among several retailers reporting earnings this week, said its third-quarter results were better than expected.

The elevated spending levels suggest solid holiday sales this month and next. Consumers have said they are worried about inflation, which hit a three-decade high last month, but planned to continue spending.



“Consumers say they’re pessimistic—we have had very high inflation—but the truth is they’re in very good shape right now,” said Gus Faucher, chief economist at PNC Financial Services Group. As reasons for the robust demand for goods he cited the roughly $2 trillion in excess savings that households have accrued since the start of the pandemic, as well as low interest rates and an improving labor market.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
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Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/us-economy-october-2021-retail-sales-11637009365

rrb said...



Plagiarize til your fucking fingers bleed, alky.

None of it fucking matters if you don't possess the ability to think for yourself and articulate that thought.

You're as much of a fucking clod as Cum-Allah. She's fallen through her own ass as well.

C.H. Truth said...

The "rules"? Sure, you and Ch want to emphasize the sad spectacle of this trial. Sorry, but there are those of us who actually love this nation.

The sad spectacle is that there even is a trial. Everything the defense stated about this being politically motivated is 100% true. At the end, you had the prosecutor giving a closing statement where he literally lies to the jury about the Wisconsin self defense law... because it's all he has.

The sad thing about it is that it just might work. Maybe he doesn't get a conviction, but maybe he gets a hung jury and they can do it all over again.


Telling the jury that having a gun means he has not self-defense case - complete lie. Telling the jury that it's not self-defence if you shoot someone who is unarmed - complete lie. Telling the jury that Rittenhouse has to exhaust all possible solutions (including dropping his weapon) or it's not self defense - complete lie.

Or just telling the jury that Rittenhouse should have just let an angry mob beat him... because everyone takes a beating.

Commonsense said...

Supported by highly educated and respected people Adolf Hitler rose to power in 1932.

Those would be the same type of intellectuals that infect racial and gender studies department at our universities today.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

legal analyst Joey Jackson

"I was quite impressed with what the prosecution did, they brought it together," he explained. "They explained a narrative, and that narrative was compelling as to guilt."

"Prior to going into closings, I was saying, 'Wow, it looks like defense will run away,' now, they really tightened it up. Two things would very much concern me as a defense attorney and have me not sleeping well tonight. one of those issues relates to provocation, right? In the event the jury buys the argument that Rittenhouse provoked this, thereby, he loses the privilege of self-defense. You were a guy who came in from out of out of town: you brought your gun, you had no business of being here, you thought you were a police officer -- you weren't."

He was a vigilante.

And a murderer.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

C.H. Truth said...

And a murderer.

We'll see...

But at least he doesn't beat women like some scum of the earth people do.

James's Fucking Daddy said...

Roger Amick said...
legal analyst Joey Jackson

"I was quite impressed with what the prosecution did, they brought it together," he explained. "They explained a narrative, and that narrative was compelling as to guilt."

"Prior to going into closings, I was saying, 'Wow, it looks like defense will run away,' now, they really tightened it up. Two things would very much concern me as a defense attorney and have me not sleeping well tonight. one of those issues relates to provocation, right? In the event the jury buys the argument that Rittenhouse provoked this, thereby, he loses the privilege of self-defense. You were a guy who came in from out of out of town: you brought your gun, you had no business of being here, you thought you were a police officer -- you weren't."

He was a vigilante.

And a murderer.

People like roger amick are a danger to society

1) His divorced dad and direct relatives lived in Kenosha

2) He lived in a nearby city with his Mom

3) It was not his gun that was used, he was legally given to him to borrow to defend from arsonists and terrorists who actually did come from all over the country (often indirectly funded by Soros)

4) He didn't provoke he was running away and cornered

5) His life was in immediate danger from the mob including an illegally armed felon.

6) He was providing medical aid and had brought his medical kit from "out of town" and had spent the day removing graffiti and cleaning up fire damage.

7) He was a lifeguard and not a "white supremacist"

8) He definitely had business being there, the town was under attack and the government wasn't doing there job, just like at this sham trial.





James's Fucking Daddy said...

Mollie
https://twitter.com/MZHemingway/status/1460653424584716294

Excellent look at how most major disinformation is coming from corporate media -- even as they seeks to shut down non-leftist voices. "Left-Leaning Media Seek a Misinformation Monopoly" by @gerardtbaker


https://wsj.com/articles/mainstream-media-misinformation-disinformation-rittenhouse-hunter-biden-inflation-cuomo-11636991841


The left wants to monopolize their misinformation

including with their "fact" checkers

and censorship

It's getting blatant

look how much roger gets gaslit

rrb said...



Hey alky -

When you beat Lydia's ass like it was your fucking job...

...was that self-defense?


James's Fucking Daddy said...

Cassandra — Peta Kills Animals
https://twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/1460594746582257672


Pray for Kyle Rittenhouse to get a fair jury today. No fair minded person would possibly convict him.



obviously they haven't met a liberal tool like those here.

rrb said...



legal analyst Joey Jackson


Al Sharpton with a law degree.

And a CNN "legal analyst." And an avowed racist.

LMAO.

Good job alky. You found the one asshat who differs with 99% of the criminal law legal community on this case.

Fucking Moron*

*h/t: Indy Voter.

rrb said...

8) He definitely had business being there, the town was under attack and the government wasn't doing there job, just like at this sham trial.

So NOW the governor has 500 NG troops poised to intervene.

Imagine if he had done that when that little criminal became a shopping cart.

But he WANTED the riots and the violence. Because he's "woke."

rrb said...



Robert Barnes says that the defense took into consideration advice from those watching the trial and incorporated some of it, including those frantically pointing out that the Hocus Pocus Out of Focus picture showed Rittenhouse "pointing the gun" wrong-handed.

Barnes says that Rittenhouse has a malicious prosecution lawsuit against Littlefinger and Fatlock for prosecuting him for that phony weapons charge -- they knew for a full year that that gun was not illegal (it was the proper length and a minor was allowed to have a rifle of the proper length) and so they charged him with a crime they knew was absolutely 100% inapplicable.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cisYecDviho

rrb said...




“To clarify today’s data on the vaccination status of COVID hospitalizations, with the vast majority of Albany County residents … having received the first or both doses of the vaccine – it is inevitable that we will have a growing share of vaccinated individuals in the hospital,” he said. “However, what we are also seeing are a high concentration of those who are vaccinated in the hospital with serious underlying health conditions, while the unvaccinated who are hospitalized are far less likely to have one of these potentially life-threatening conditions.”


https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Albany-County-Vaccinated-residents-in-hospital-16625396.php?IPID=Times-Union-HP-breaking-bar

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You Cannot Claim Self-Defense Against a Danger You Created.

rrb said...


Blogger Roger Amick said...

You Cannot Claim Self-Defense Against a Danger You Created.



Too bad the prosecution utterly FAILED to prove that alky.

Try again.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

But..this is a game changer....

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U.S. officials see this antiviral pill, and another by Merck and Ridgeback Biotherapeutics, as potential game-changers to help restore a broader sense of normalcy and are eager to add them to a small arsenal of treatments for Americans who contract the virus. With breakthrough cases rising and 30 percent of American adults not fully vaccinated, health officials believe the pills will help tame the pandemic because of their ability to thwart the virus’ most pernicious effects.


Free pills that might end the pandemic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

James's Fucking Daddy said...

More people died in the key clinical trial for Pfizer's Covid vaccine than the company publicly reported

Pfizer told the world 15 people who received the vaccine in its trial had died as of mid-March. Turns out the real number then was 21, compared to only 17 deaths in people who hadn't been vaccinated.


On July 28, Pfizer and its partner BioNTech posted a six-month data update from their key Covid vaccine clinical trial, the one that led regulators worldwide to okay the shot.

At a time when questions about vaccine effectiveness were rising, the report received worldwide attention. Pfizer said the vaccine’s efficacy remained relatively strong, at 84 percent after six months.

It also reported 15 of the roughly 22,000 people who received the vaccine in the trial had died, compared to 14 of the 22,000 people who received placebo (a saline shot that didn’t contain the vaccine).

These were not just Covid deaths. In fact, they were mostly not from Covid. Only three of the people in the trial died of Covid-related illnesses - two who received the vaccine, and one who who received the saline shot. The other deaths were from other illnesses and diseases, mostly cardiovascular.

Researchers call this datapoint “all-cause mortality.” Pfizer barely mentioned it, stuffing the details of the deaths in an appendix to the report.

But all-cause mortality is arguably the MOST important measure for any drug or vaccine - especially one meant to be given prophylactically to large numbers of healthy people, as vaccines are.


(SOURCE: Appendix to “Six Month Safety and Efficacy of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 Vaccine,” available at https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v1.supplementary-material)

Although the researchers released their update in July, the data was already more than four months old. They had stopped collecting information about deaths as of March 13, the “data cut-off.”

But even at the time, their figures were somewhat troubling.

In their initial safety report to the FDA, which contained data through November 2020, the researchers had said four placebo recipients and two vaccine recipients died, one after the first dose and one after the second. The July update reversed that trend. Between November 2020 and March 2021, 13 vaccine recipients died, compared to only 10 placebo subjects.

Further, nine vaccine recipients had died from cardiovascular events such as heart attacks or strokes, compared to six placebo recipients who died of those causes. The imbalance was small but notable, considering that regulators worldwide had found that the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines were linked to heart inflammation in young men.

(I reported accurately on this study on Twitter on July 29, and the next day Twitter suspended me for a week for doing so, the fourth of my five defamatory “strikes” for Covid “misinformation.”)

At best, the results suggested that the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine - now pushed on nearly a billion people worldwide at a cost of tens of billions of dollars and ruinous and worsening civil liberties restrictions - did nothing to reduce overall deaths.

James's Fucking Daddy said...


Worse, Pfizer and BioNTech had vaccinated almost all the placebo recipients in the trial shortly after the Food and Drug Administration okayed the vaccine for emergency use on Dec. 11, 2020.

As a result, they had destroyed our best chance to compare the long-term health of a large number of vaccine recipients with a scientifically balanced group of people who had not received the drug. The July 28 report appeared to be the last clean safety data update we would ever have.



But now the FDA has given us one more.

On November 8, the agency released its “Summary Basis for Regulatory Action,” a 30-page note explaining why on August 23 it granted full approval to Pfizer’s vaccine, replacing the emergency authorization from December 2020.


SOURCE: https://www.fda.gov/media/151733/download

And buried on page 23 of the report is this stunning sentence:

From Dose 1 through the March 13, 2021 data cutoff date, there were a total of 38 deaths, 21 in the COMIRNATY [vaccine] group and 17 in the placebo group.

continues:
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/more-people-died-in-the-key-clinical

stunning

big pharma

big brother

1984

Fire Fauci

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Hatch act drives rrb crazy mothrf***r

Trump could face 3 years in prison for political coercion in office: watchdogs

Bob Brigham

November 16, 2021

The Department of Justice has additional cause to file charges against Donald Trump after the Office of Special Counsel (OSC) found 13 senior Trump officials violated the Hatch Act, two legal experts explained in a Slate column on Tuesday.

Prof. Claire Finkelstein of the University of Pennsylvania and Prof. Richard Painter of the University of Minnesota Law argued the report bolstered the case for a criminal investigation.

"Yet the OSC finding may be significant for another reason, namely its implications for another Hatch Act complaint we filed, this one a criminal complaint against Donald Trump brought last October with the Department of Justice. Although the president and vice president are immune to the ordinary Hatch Act prohibitions on use of public office for political purposes, there is a separate provision (18 U.S.C. § 610) under which it is a crime for any person to 'intimidate, threaten, command, or coerce … any employee of the Federal Government … to engage in any political activity.' Violations are punishable by up to three years in prison," the two noted.

They noted the complaint was filed with the Public Integrity Division of the Department of Justice.

READ: Here's why ex-Trump official Lynne Patton was fined for Hatch Act violations but Kellyanne Conway wasn't

"That means the decision of whether to investigate lies squarely in the hands of Attorney General Merrick Garland. The threshold legal determination Garland—or a special prosecutor appointed by Garland—must make is whether Trump coerced or ordered the political activity identified as Hatch Act violations by the OSC. If so, Trump could be liable to prosecution for political coercion under the aforementioned statute," they wrote.

The two noted Trump's habits while in office.

"Certainly, there are multiple accounts of Trump exerting precisely this kind of pressure on those in his inner circle. Numerous government officials, from the then head of the FBI, James Comey, to former White House lawyer Don McGahn, as well as state election officials like Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, and even Vice President Pence, have experienced the brunt of Trump's coercive tactics. The pattern of behavior throughout Trump's presidency suggests that the Hatch Act violations OSC has identified did not occur spontaneously," they wrote.

They wrote that DOJ has failed to act on their complaint for 13 months.

READ: Federal investigation finds senior Trump appointees illegally campaigned on the job

"Certainly, there are multiple accounts of Trump exerting precisely this kind of pressure on those in his inner circle. Numerous government officials, from the then head of the FBI, James Comey, to former White House lawyer Don McGahn, as well as state election officials like Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, and even Vice President Pence, have experienced the brunt of Trump's coercive tactics. The pattern of behavior throughout Trump's presidency suggests that the Hatch Act violations OSC has identified did not occur spontaneously," they wrote.

Anonymous said...

"U.S. shale has a message for the Biden administration: Ask us to increase oil production, not OPEC"

Keep American Jobs in America.

Anonymous said...

BLM promises Riots.
FBI does nothing.
National Guard called UP.

Socialism is always violent.

James's Fucking Daddy said...

Roger Amick said...
The Hatch act drives rrb crazy mothrf***r

Well you sure are crazy

constantly

24/7

must drive your bunk-mate crazy too


poor guy

and poor nurses

Hey why does the UK already have Covid pills approved and the US is still dragging their feet ?

Why didn't Fauci put these therapeutics under Operation Warp Speed ?

Why the Pfizer not initially acknowledge that the vaccine actually had more deaths in its arm than the placebo arm. ?

And then destroy the placebo arm ?

Malpractice ?

And where was Fauci over this too ?

a total disgrace.

rrb said...



LMAO.

"Raw Story!!!"

SQUAWK!!!

"Hatch Act!!!"

SQUAWK!!!

LOL.

And Richard Painter's TDS is only exceeded by Laurence Tribe's.

Hilarious. Thanks for the howler alky.

Indy was right!

Commonsense said...

provocation, right? In the event the jury buys the argument that Rittenhouse provoked this, thereby, he loses the privilege of self-defense.

The US Constitution enshrines a right to keep and bear arms and Wisconsin has an open carry law for rifles.

Marley carrying a rifle in plan sight does not constitute a provocation as the prosecutor contents (and hopefully the judge instructed the jury on that point of law.). One would have to something like a reckless demonstration such randomly and indiscriminately pointing the barrel at people.

There is no evidence on the video Kyle Rittenhouse did this. In fact, he retreated and ran when the three ANTIFA thugs chased after him. One pointed a gun at him so he intended to kill Rittenhouse, one used a skate board to beat him over the head with the intent to kill him and while we there's no obvious of intent with the unarmed thug, no person in a rational state of mind would charge a person holding a rifle. One only does that if he is in a murderous rage.

Regardless there is clear and convincing evidence of self-defense as opposed to the prosecution's weak and spurious argument on provocation.

Commonsense said...

found 13 senior Trump officials violated the Hatch Act, two legal experts explained in a Slate column on Tuesday.

Guarantee you senior Biden officials are violating the Hatch Act right now.

All administrations do it. You simply can separate presidential duties with the politics involved with the office.

Hence why it's technically illegal but never enforced.

James's Fucking Daddy said...

The Disturbing Story of the Rittenhouse Case's Mysterious 'Jump Kick Man'

The enduring mystery of the Kyle Rittenhouse criminal trial, which went to a jury Tuesday, has been the identity of "Jump Kick Man." As Rittenhouse ran away from a crowd of people, he testified that one of the pursuers hit him in the head with his skateboard. When Rittenhouse fell to the ground, Jump Kick Man flew through the air and stomped on his head. Rittenhouse fired two shots at Jump Kick Man, but missed.

Almost immediately, the man who had struck Rittenhouse with his skateboard, Anthony Huber, hit him with the skateboard again, and Rittenhouse fired a single round, killing Huber. A third man, Gaige Grosskreutz, saw this and approached Rittenhouse with his hands up. However, when Rittenhouse looked down for a split second, Grosskreutz pulled out a handgun and pointed it at Rittenhouse's head. Rittenhouse fired a single shot, striking Grosskreutz in the arm.

Jump Kick Man, whose attack on Rittenhouse (and Rittenhouse's subsequent response) arguably led to both Huber's and Grosskreutz's actions (and Rittenhouse's response to them), has never been identified--until now.


"The Dan O'Donnell Show" can now report exclusively that Jump Kick Man is a 40-year-old Black male from Kenosha with an extensive criminal record who was at the time of the Rittenhouse shootings on probation following a conviction for domestic violence battery. He faced a maximum sentence of nine months in jail, but less than two months before he kicked Rittenhouse, he accepted a plea deal that netted him 12 months' probation. The following year, he violated the terms of his probation and was sentenced to seven months in jail.
continues:
https://newstalk1130.iheart.com/featured/common-sense-central/content/2021-11-16-the-disturbing-story-of-the-rittenhouse-cases-mysterious-jump-kick-man/

wonder if he was provided to the defense team ?

Obviously the prosecutor knew...

though the defense may not have wanted to call him either