State argues that this picture is indisputable proof that Kyle Rittenhouse provoked a response, thus vacating his claims of self defense.
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Now it appeared for some time that the Judge was not going to allow either the picture (which was introduced on the last day of the trial) or the argument of provocation because he (the Judge) could not personally make out what the picture even is. But apparently he wants the jury to make up their own mind as to what this picture actually is and if it proves what the State is arguing.
Keep in mind that what we see here is actually an "enhanced version" of the original picture that was taken by a drone, and that the person who was brought forward to testify about the photo stated he couldn't tell what exactly was enhanced and that he never actually compared it to the original (which would have harder to see anything with).
He admitted under cross that the enhancement method adds pixels to the original photo, which may or may not even be the same color as pixels right around it. It's a murky picture with a murky explanation and that seems like a long shot to convince the jury to put a boy away for life (when we have clear video of everything else that proves his self defense claims).
So how does this prove anything?
What the prosecution is going to argue is that this picture shows Rittenhouse pointing his gun at someone who is not any of the three people he shot.They will argue that this pointing of the gun at this other person is what "provoked" a response from Rosenbaum and the others. If Rittenhouse provoked the response and is the original aggressor, then he cannot claim self defense.
Without the provocation argument, the prosecution literally had almost nothing to go on.
But based on this picture, it would appear that they have "next to nothing" to go on. At best there appears to be Kyle holding his gun that might (or might not be) aimed at someone. The prosecution is arguing that he is basically holding the gun left handed and aiming it at someone. Another way of looking at it is that the gun is actually in the same position that someone might use when they carry it and that he was just walking.
Either way, I don't believe that you can distinguish based on this picture what exactly is happening, much less argue that it proves provocation beyond a reasonable doubt. This is a Hail Mary by the prosecution at this point in time. They are lucky (according to legal experts) that the judge even allowed this last minute "enhanced" picture to be included.
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An attorney for Kyle Rittenhouse on Friday indicated outside the presence of the jury that his client has PTSD as a result of the deadly shootings in Kenosha, Wis., on Aug. 25, 2020.
Mark Richards, the attorney, made the revelation as Judge Bruce Schroeder asked Rittenhouse whether he agreed that the jury should be allowed to consider lesser included offenses for some of the crimes charged. During a lengthy and meandering hearing on Friday, defense attorneys objected to some, but not all, of the lesser included offenses prosecutors offered in the case against Rittenhouse. The judge agreed to jettison some, but not all, of the proffered lesser included offenses.
Despite what the attorneys wrangled and despite what the judge said he would allow, Rittenhouse had the ultimate legal ability to ask that all of the lesser included offenses be tossed, Schroeder said. Rittenhouse declined to do so.
Schroeder explained that there were benefits and drawbacks to the decision. Because Rittenhouse allowed the jury to consider some of the lesser included offenses, he increased his risk of conviction but provided the jury with charges that would ultimately result in comparatively lenient punishments. By choosing to include the lesser included offenses that Schroeder approved, Rittenhouse also minimized the risk of a mistrial due to a hung jury and a hypothetical second prosecution.
Schroeder needed to confirm with Rittenhouse that he was making the decision to allow the lesser included offenses and that he was doing so intelligently and voluntarily.
“Have you ever been treated for a mental or emotional disorder?” Schroeder asked.
Judge Bruce Schroeder consults law books as an evidentiary question is considered outside of the presence of the jury on Nov. 5, 2021, in the Kyle Rittenhouse homicide trial. (Image © Mark Hertzberg/ZUMA Press Wire/Pool.)
Rather than immediately answer “yes,” as he had done to other questions, Rittenhouse turned to speak to his attorney.
Schroeder cut in before any explanation was forthcoming to say that the “more important question” was whether there was “any reason” to “be concerned” that the defendant had “some kind of disability, mental or emotional, that would prevent [him] from being fully aware of what your options are and making a rational decision.”
“No, your honor,” Rittenhouse responded.
“His pause,” Richards said, “was, I believe, because he’s in therapy. I don’t think he has a mental illness or anything. As a result of this incident, he has PTSD.”
“But that doesn’t affect his judgment or reasoning power at all?” Schroeder asked.
Richards and Rittenhouse both said it did not
Roger is right about Pres. Brandon being like FOR.
They both got smacked down repeatedly for violating The US Constitution.
"A three-judge panel for the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit reaffirmed its stay on President Joe Biden’s workplace vaccine mandate on Friday"
Unconstitutional vax mandates have given Americans a glimpse into the control the government has—or thinks it has over our lives. But few have any idea how much the government is involved with their everyday lives. Most of us get up, go to work, and come home without the government ostensibly telling us when to do this or what we must feed our kids or when we must go to bed. We think we’re free, but we’re not. Just because stormtroopers aren’t standing in every doorway of your house doesn’t mean the government’s not there. It is in a million different ways, invisible by design, and often the stormtroopers are implied.
Not sure? Let’s take a journey of a day in the life of a typical American.
You wake up at 5:00. You’re literally lying on the embodiment of one of the most famous government rules—your mattress. The government footprint is found on the tag that famously says: “This tag may not be removed under penalty of law except by the consumer.”
You have a headache and go to the medicine cabinet. There you’ll find the fruit of one of the most regulated industries in the economy, medicines. Have you ever wondered why, when you pick up a prescription, you get a mini-newspaper of information? Have you ever wondered why it takes boxes the size of sandwiches to hold medicines the size of thimbles? It’s because of the information manufacturers must print on the boxes or on the tiny books inside the boxes telling you about every single thing that might ever happen as it relates to that medicine, no matter how rare or unlikely. Of course, to get an encyclopedia’s worth of information there they print so small that people can’t read it, even if they wanted to. And to that, they add more online. This is driven primarily by government regulation and secondarily by manufacturers seeking to insulate themselves from lawsuits.
Now you head down to the kitchen to grab some breakfast. You open the refrigerator, which still has one of those mandated yellow stickers telling you how much energy it uses, and grab your pasteurized milk because unpasteurized milk is illegal in half the states and heavily regulated in most. Then you grab a box of cereal and read the required “Nutritional information” on the side of the box because your paper hasn’t arrived yet.
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After breakfast, you head back upstairs to the bathroom and you use the toilet that you have to flush twice because federal regulations limit how much water each flush can use. You then jump into the shower and feel like you’re in a Seinfeld episode because the manufacturer wanted
their showerheads to have the EPA’s “WaterSense” designation. From there you use toothpaste, antiperspirant, and hair gel, all of which have differing levels of government regulation.
When you get dressed, unless you’re wearing your birthday suit to work, virtually every single piece of clothing you put on will be regulated in myriad ways, from labeling, sourcing, content, and of course advertising.
Image: Mattress tag by The Sleep Judge (edited in befunky). CC BY 2.0.
Dressed to kill and ready to take on the world you emerge from the morning’s regulatory morass into one of the most regulated parts of our everyday life: cars. Everyone knows about CAFÉ standards which regulate the MPG a manufacturer’s fleet much attain, but there’s so much more, covering virtually every single piece of the thousands of pieces that go into every car: wire harnesses, windshield wipers, headlights, seat belts, airbags, brakes, brake lights, door locks, trunk escape handles, plus things like pollution emissions, door strength, union regulations, nation of origin labeling, steel trade policy, and more. And that’s before you even get on the road.
Once on the road, most laws are state and local, although one of the few good things Jimmy Carter ever did—although of dubious constitutionality—was to make Right Turn on Red the default rule from sea to shining sea. There are laws about child seats, tinted windows, fog lights, not to mention the countless laws about virtually every aspect of actually operating a vehicle itself, starting with getting and maintaining a license and insurance.
Indeed, auto manufacturing may be one of the most regulated industries on the planet, but it’s far from alone. “The National Association of Manufacturers (NAM) has found that the industrial sector faces a staggering 297,696 restrictions on their operations from federal regulations.”
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Now that you’ve safely navigated the route between home and office, you enter a quagmire of regulations that extend from the building to virtually everything that goes on within. There are of course building codes that cover literally every single thing that goes into a building from plumbing to electricity to the kinds of lights that can or must be used, how much ventilation there must be, fire exit signs, number and type of fire extinguishers, the number and size of bathrooms, numbers or sizes of windows, what paint can be used, handicap access, the number of parking spots and how many must be reserved for handicap parking, and more.
Actually operating the business offers more regulations: Minimum wage laws, hiring regulations, overtime laws, union regulations, maternity laws, a phalanx of OSHA (Occupational Safety and Health Administration) rules and regulations, not to mention the mishmash of training requirements each state has. Everyone knows it takes years to get the education necessary to become a licensed doctor, lawyer, veterinarian, accountant, stockbroker, etc. But those white-collar jobs are far from the only ones that require licensing. In Georgia, in order to work as a hair “stylist,” one needs training and lots of it:
A late night insanity
serfdom, not the remedy for it.
By Thaddeus G. McCotter
November 12, 2021
The Left lives in an upside-down world of its own creation. Yet in our pluralistic republic, it is entitled to its delusions. The problem is these delusions are not enough. Their misery demands company.
Whether their largely undereducated and overly indoctrinated masses know it, the Left crawled out of the anti-Enlightenment, reactionary ooze of French philosophe Jean-Jacques Rousseau’s ideological cesspool. Stated simply, the Left’s goal is to rule as an enlightened vanguard under the direction of a “legislator” to impose a new civil religion and other diktats upon Americans and drag them back into an idealized state of nature composed of “noble savages” no longer constrained by the corrupting influences of civilization. It is why the Left’s use of a vehicle called the “Democratic Party” is so deeply, bitterly ironic. For the Left’s tactics and aims are anything but democratic.
Of course, the Left’s tactics and aims don’t fit on a bumper sticker and, regardless, many leftists wouldn’t be caught dead in an internal combustion-propelled vehicle. Further, as recent election results in Virginia and New Jersey suggest, when the Left’s tactics and aims are imposed through public policy they prove ineffective and, to no rational person’s surprise, unpopular. But this is why the Left spends so much time and money crafting “narratives”—i.e., lies—to obfuscate their unpopularity. Sometimes they are successful, other times not; but the Left’s narratives and disinformation should be easily exposed when one remembers the upside-down nature of their delusions.
The Left are the modern royalists. They believe themselves among those of our fellow citizens who would benefit from an authoritarian regime and the status quo; and as such they are diametrically opposed to the core principles of the American Revolution—a populist uprising, if ever there was one.
Prior to the American Revolution, all sovereignty was vested in the king or queen; and the people were subjects of the crown, possessing only those rights allowed by the sovereign or the parliament (using the crown’s delegated sovereign power). To put it succinctly, the governing paradigm was the king or queen at the top and the people on the bottom.
After the American Revolution, all sovereignty was vested in the American people, individually and collectively. Each American’s individual rights were understood to be from God, not the government—the latter established to protect these inalienable rights and serve only through and with the consent of the citizenry, who were largely to be self-governing. The new, revolutionary paradigm inverted the pyramidal governing paradigm: now, the people were at the top and the government was on the bottom. This is the populist, principled foundation of American exceptionalism.
And the regressive, royalist Left cannot stand it.
The Emergency Use Authorization and implementation of vaccine mandates could go down in history with the “Authorization for Use of Military Force” after 9/11 asa totally unnecessary sacrifice of civil liberties.
Once again—it appears the danger is swinging the pendulum too far in the opposite direction.
There are hills worth dying on or getting canceled over and things worth losing your job or a potential client over or even potentially offending a family member or a close friend.
The medical freedom of individuals—especially when it comes to children who are at little to no risk from this disease—and the right of the parents to have a say so in the decision making process when it comes to their child’s health is that hill.
Historically speaking from the President was exactly correct.
And I just want to tell you, I know you’re a little younger than I am, but, you know, I’ve adopted the attitude of the great Negro — at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues — went on to become a great pitcher in the pros — in the Major League Baseball after Jackie Robinson. His name was Satchel Paige.
Foxnews edited
at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues
Foxnews robotics lied
President Biden referred to the late baseball player Satchel Paige as "the great negro" before correcting himself during his Veterans Day address at Arlington National Cemetery on Thursday.
Biden was honoring former U.S. Ambassador to Hungary Donald Blinken, an Army veteran and father of Secretary of State Antony Blinken, during his speech when he launched into a story about Paige, who played in the so-called "Negro leagues" before moving to Major League Baseball in the late 1940s.
President Biden
And I just want to tell you, I know you’re a little younger than I am, but, you know, I’ve adopted the attitude of the great Negro — at the time, pitcher in the Negro Leagues — went on to become a great pitcher in the pros — in the Major League Baseball after Jackie Robinson. His name was Satchel Paige.
I would be very surprised if the jury did convicted Kyle Rittonhouse. The world has turned upside down when you can't defend yourself against ANTIFA thugs who are chasing you with bats, skate boards and guns.
The left-wing media has turned its ire against judge Schroeder for conducting a fair trial.
Boy the left-wing is sure desparet to defend Biden's Negro comments.
BTW I'm old school. I didn't think Negro was a pejorative for black people since they use the term to describe themselves.
But I don't make the rules about racism. You guys did.
As someone who has sat on two juries, I cannot adequately make out what is in the photo. I would have to rely on the other, clearer pics.
It's like a Rorschach test. You can see only what think you see and prosecutors hope to tell the Jury what's in the picture thus planting the seed in the juries interpretation.
I don't think I would have allowed the picture. This is one of the few mistake judge Schroeder made.
The punk should have been in bed on a school night,,,,,,instead has his mommy drive him north armed with a gun he should not have had and kills two under the pretense of self defense!!!!! FUCK HIM AND HIS ATTORNEY'S!!!!!!!! He should be locked up for life!!!!!!! Yes my prejudice is showing....but rationalizing that he should be let off is just too much for even the most skeptical amongst us!!!!!! Like the OJ trial.....getting away with murder seems to be in vogue with the GOP!!!!!
Dopey says he should've stood there and died like a man
Died from what ballz???????? Neither killed was armed....maybe they could have stabbed him with a pencil!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Yeah 17 year old asshole with a gun and you are dumb enough to defend him!!!!!!!! LOLOLOLOL. TDS has infected your mind!!!!!! I am sure you would be proud sitting In court if a kid of yours was on trial for murder!!!!!!
Rittenhouse the only one with a gun?? Damn stupid dopey.
No you dumb fuck.....neither person he shot were armed !!!!!!!!! God you really should learn how to read....I hear you can take remedial reading at your local HS....>>BWAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!
Read the transcript you dumb fuck.
Neither victim was armed you asshole!!!!!! Kyle shot him because he had a gun and panicked!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!
Roger Amick said...
Foxnews robotics lied
President Biden referred to the late baseball player Satchel Paige as "the great negro" before correcting himself during his Veterans Day address at Arlington National Cemetery on Thursday
Actually you lied. He didn't correct himself. He didn't say black or African-American. He said negro and stuck with it. That was what upset all the lefties on every media outlet in the country.
Sure Fox edited his statement on one of their shows. Biden is such a poor speaker this is regularly done on all news outlets. What lefties were upset about was the word. And he didn't misspeak or correct himself. And Fox and the other outlets all left that word in. It was what was important including outlets that ran his entire statement. And caused a ruckus.
I also addressed this on the previous thread. Are you going to continue posting bullshit hoaxes and diversions on every thread. Your all-in on the Jan 6th hoax has a long way to go to catch up with your Russian collusion hoax but it's on its way.
For the wantonly lazy ball less wonder. a synopsis of the killing of protesters. A rather detailed summary of all the evidence....I sure would like to see the transcript that says those killed were armed instead of ball less wonder just saying so.......BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/09/11/rittenhouse-victims-records/
Neither victim was armed you asshole!!!!!
One had a skate board the other had a gun.
BTW you don't need to be "armed". People have been beating to death just using fist and feet.
The law said you can use deadly force if you (or the person you're re protecting) is in danger of great bodily harm or death.
Actually you lied. He didn't correct himself.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! FOX NEWS MANIPULATED THE TAPE ASSHOLE.....READ THE TRANSCRIPT!!!!!
One had a skate board the other had a gun.
Learn to read....the guy with a gun was not killed!!!!! Sad only assholes and republicans think a skateboard is a deadly weapon[!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Look you ignorant asshole, what the hell do you think happens when you physically attack someone carrying a gun?? Self defense applies to far more than a gun threat.
Pull you head out of your fat ass for once.
Anonymous said...
No you dumb fuck.....neither person he shot were armed !!!!!!!!!
VERY lo iq has obviously not comprehended anything that happened. Yesterday he said Rittenhouse transported his gun across state lines. Blatantly false.
Now he doesn't realize that Rittenhouse didn't shoot until he was assaulted with a swung skateboard and another individual with a loaded pistol. He would have been dead if he didn't use deadly force himself.
Fuck is VERY lo iq stupid. But he loves to bleat (we know what that means) It's his strong point
ROFLMFAO !!!
anonymous said...
Actually you lied. He didn't correct himself.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! FOX NEWS MANIPULATED THE TAPE ASSHOLE.....READ THE TRANSCRIPT!!!!!
I've heard the tape and read the statement. What word did he use to correct "negro" ? Hint - He didn't.
Fuck are you stupid
How do you type while holding on to your ankles ?
BWAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
ROFLMFAO !!!
Because he can't even reach his ankles
Myballs said...
Because he can't even reach his ankles
now that makes sense
BWAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
I've heard the tape and read the statement.
Says fucked up!!!!!!!
Well sport....your hearing and ability to think is certainly in question!!!!!!!
BTW....Tell me how the Ga killing of that black kid is self defense with the victim unarmed and jogging home??????
Covid death count for Trump.......Over. 777 k dead Americans and counting!!!!!!!
Hey VERY lo iq
You "forgot" to answer the question:
I've heard the tape and read the statement. What word did he use to correct "negro" ? Hint - He didn't.
Fuck are you stupid
and try to stay on topic
and I don't mean BWAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
t comprehended anything that happened. Yesterday he said Rittenhouse transported his gun across state lines. Blatantly false.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah...they claim his friend brought it to Wisconsin.......Too fucking funny even for as fucked up as fucked is!!!!!!!!! LOLOLO. I am sure the jury will get to the bottom of that!!!!!!!!I Idiots defending idiots....the GOP policy!!!!!
VIDEO of Rittenhouse's mother from this morning:
https://news.yahoo.com/kyle-rittenhouses-mom-says-verdict-134548340.html
I hope they sue Biden and take a big chunk of the "big guy's" money
and not collect it in "artwork"
Beware the fury of a patient man
A wee little timeline:
March 16, 2016: President Obama nominates Merrick Garland to an empty seat on the Supreme Court.
March 17 - November 8, 2016: Senate Republicans blockade Garland, vowing to hold "no hearings, no votes, no action whatsoever" on his nomination.
November 3, 2020: Joe Biden is elected president of the United States.
March 11, 2021: Garland is sworn in as Biden's attorney general.
November 12, 2021: Garland's Justice Department indicts Steve Bannon for contempt of Congress following Bannon's refusal to obey a subpoena to testify before the 1/6 committee.
Revenge is indeed a dish best served cold. I wouldn't be surprised if Bannon isn't the last to be indicted.
Including???
Roger is right about Pres. Brandon being like FDR.
They both got smacked down repeatedly for violating The US Constitution.
"A three-judge panel for the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit reaffirmed its stay on President Joe Biden’s workplace vaccine mandate on Friday"
Maybe someone can it dopey in the head with a skateboard and see how non-lethal it is
anonymous said...
t comprehended anything that happened. Yesterday he said Rittenhouse transported his gun across state lines. Blatantly false.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah...they claim his friend brought it to Wisconsin.......Too fucking funny even for as fucked up as fucked is!!!!!!!!! LOLOLO. I am sure the jury will get to the bottom of that!!!!!!!!I Idiots defending idiots....the GOP policy!!!!!
YOU FUCKING IDIOT
That was NOT what they claimed.
The gun was given to him at the lot he was protecting.
It was NOT his gun which remained in Illinois.
EVERYONE KNOWS THIS
except apparently you.
you should shut up and hide your ignorance
Dear Woke Leftist Snowflakes.
Since this causes your team to loss your minds.
Let's go Brandon
FJB
Fuck are you stupid
FUCKED UP TALKING BAD ABOUT HIMSELF.....BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! Just because your hearing and reading comprehension sucks, doesn't mean your interpretation of the manipulated tape is correct!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! You lose gain!!!
Myballs said...
Maybe someone can it dopey in the head with a skateboard and see how non-lethal it is
with a crowd of people descending on him
with previous gunshots in the background
and a gunman rushing in
But it does appears VERY lo iq has had brain damage from something previously.
and it was severe
And maybe fucked up can take his head out of his ass and think........again.....neither killed was armed and were killed because a dumb fucking white boy had a gun.....just like in Ga with the jogger!!!!!! Seems to me your acceptance of killing as long as it conforms to your bias....is fine.......BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
VERY lo iq said:
You lose gain!!!
Hey retard, you are obviously not the judge of that
And you still haven't answered the question
Too tough for a mental midget ?
And not man enough to admit you are wrong
as always
Max
https://twitter.com/MaxNordau/status/1459224006050172933
I just learned that Rittenhouse’s dad, grandma, aunt, uncle, and cousins live in Kenosha.
Was this reported ANYWHERE before the trial?
and a commenter said Kyle only lived 10 minutes away, "across state lines"
of course if this was common knowledge it would dangerous and open them up to lefty violence.
Matt Orfalea
He had a day job in Kenosha. He worked at a pool in Kenosha. His best friend lived in Kenosha. The night before, he spend the night at his friend's house in Kenosha. The day before, he was cleaning a school in Kenosha. He lived a short commute away from Kenosha.
Glenn Greenwald
Absolutely fantastic job by the corporate media: so many people who are now being exposed to the actual facts of the Rittenhouse case -- which is what a trial is for -- are realizing just how deceived, manipulated and lied to about this case they've been for the last 15 months
This judge is a biased example of how white people get away with murder.
The prosecution was also not permitted to discuss a video that, it says, shows Rittenhouse saying he wished he had a rifle so he could shoot two people exiting a pharmacy because he thought they were shoplifters, which was recorded weeks before the Kenosha protests.
Schroeder yelled at Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger for attempting to ask Rittenhouse about the video, despite him having already ruled the video inadmissible evidence.
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The judge also condemned Binger for asking why the defendant remained silent about the case following his arrest, despite this being a protected right.
"That's basic law. It's been basic law in this country for 40 years, 50 years," Schroeder said. "I have no idea why you would do something like that. I don't know what you're up to. When you say you were acting in good faith, I don't believe you."
The judge also told the prosecution ahead of the trial that it could not make any attempt to link Rittenhouse to the far-right Proud Boys group.
Rittenhouse was seen drinking and being serenaded by members of the Proud Boys at a bar in Mount Pleasant, Wisconsin, soon after he pleaded not guilty to the charges against him in January, according to an affidavit filed by Binger.
https://www.newsweek.com/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-judge-bruce-schroeder-controversies-1648569?utm_source=pushnami&utm_medium=Push_Notifications&utm_campaign=auto-vengaged&UTM=1636812800442
His biased views are signs of intent.
The judge forbade the evidence.
If he is convicted, the governor is getting prepared for violence by the former President's supporters.
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Wisconsin Governor Calls Up 500 National Guard Troops For Kyle Rittenhouse Trial
Troops will join hundreds of police if necessary to "ensure public safety" as the flashpoint trial nears its end, said Gov. Tony Evers.
By
Mary Papenfuss
11/13/2021 08:21am EST
Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers (D) has called up 500 National Guard troops for active duty to aid hundreds of police officers if necessary to “ensure public safety” as the hot-button Kenosha trial of Kyle Rittenhouse nears its end, he said in a statement Friday.
Members of the Wisconsin National Guard will stage outside Kenosha on standby to respond if requested by local law enforcement agencies, according to the governor.
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“We stand ready to support our communities during times of need,” said Maj. Gen. Paul Knapp, Wisconsin’s adjutant general.
Rittenhouse is standing trial for intentional homicide and related charges in the shooting deaths of Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber, who were unarmed. He also injured a third man, Gaige Grosskreutz. His lawyers have claimed self-defense.
Rittenhouse, 17 at the time, was too young to legally be packing the AR-15-style rifle he had slung over his shoulder last year at an August protest against the police shooting of local Black resident Jacob Blake. He claimed he was there to protect a car dealership from protesters, but owners testified no one was asked to do so.
Closing arguments in the case will begin Monday, after which the case goes to the jury.
The governor said he and his office are in close communication with local law enforcement to “help keep the Kenosha community and greater area safe.”
“The Kenosha community has been strong, resilient, and has come together through incredibly difficult times these past two years, and that healing is still ongoing,” Evers noted.
“I urge folks who are otherwise not from the area to please respect the community by reconsidering any plans to travel there and encourage those who might choose to assemble and exercise their First Amendment rights to do so safely and peacefully.”
The judge also condemned Binger for asking why the defendant remained silent about the case following his arrest, despite this being a protected right.
"That's basic law. It's been basic law in this country for 40 years, 50 years," Schroeder said. "I have no idea why you would do something like that. I don't know what you're up to. When you say you were acting in good faith, I don't believe you."
No reasonable person believes Binger
and if the FBI hadn't "lost" their HD drone footage of this, well even despite this, it should never have gone to trial
and smears aren't allowed into evidence, despite what roger wants.
Roger Amick said...
If he is convicted, the governor is getting prepared for violence by the former President's supporters.
You idiot, that's to protect the city from violence if Rittenhouse is found innocent. Which he obviously is.
Despite Bidens attempt to make him into a guilty "white supremacist"
Who knows what Biden's "justice" department will do if he is found innocent.
The Biden administration, big tech and state media have already convicted him.
And censored people defending him, cut off his source for defense funding and libeled him.
Banana Republic
1984
. Which he obviously is.
Obviously you forget the OJ verdict!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
One hundred and eighty-seven minutes.
That is the length of time between when President Donald Trump called on his followers to march to the Capitol on Jan. 6, as Congress was convening to certify the results of the presidential election he had lost, and when he belatedly and begrudgingly released a video telling them to go home. Those harrowing 187 minutes — during which the nation’s commander in chief sat back and watched television coverage of his supporters attacking the Capitol, even as his advisers, allies, elder daughter and besieged lawmakers begged him to intervene — were chronicled with troubling new detail in a Post investigation. The fresh reporting is a powerful rebuke to those who have sought to minimize, distort or forget the events of that terrible day.
Thanks to the work of a team of more than 75 Post journalists who interviewed more than 230 people and examined thousands of pages of court documents and internal law enforcement reports, along with hundred of videos, photographs and audio recordings, we now have the fullest understanding to date of what was going on not just on Jan. 6 but also in the days leading up to the assault and its aftermath.
Among the findings: A cascade of warnings — including explicit threats targeting Congress — was ignored by law enforcement. Some Pentagon leaders feared Mr. Trump might misuse the National Guard to remain in power and placed guardrails on deployment that may have hampered response to the insurrection. Efforts to strong-arm Vice President Mike Pence into using his ceremonial role to reject the results of the presidential election continued even after the assault on the Capitol when the shaken Congress reconvened.
New details about the pressure brought to bear on Mr. Pence make his steadfastness all the more admirable. Unfortunately, the former vice president has tarnished the record of his Jan. 6 courage with subsequent toadying to Mr. Trump, including criticizing the media for what he called overplaying the significance of Jan. 6. Mr. Pence is not alone in bending under Mr. Trump’s tightening grip on the Republican Party; as was reported in the third part of the series, nearly a third of the 390 Republicans around the country who have expressed interest in running for statewide office this cycle have supported a partisan audit of the 2020 vote, played down Jan. 6 or directly questioned the victory of President Biden.
Those continuing efforts to undermine elections and the peaceful transfer of power are why The Post’s investigation, albeit rigorous and thorough, must not be the last word. As the Post team itself noted, a number of critical questions remain. How seriously did Mr. Trump or his allies inside the government consider using emergency powers to remain in office? How did rioters know what unsecured windows would give them entry into the Capitol? Who built those gallows on the West Front of the building? And what else did Mr. Trump say or do during those horrific 187 minutes?
The special House committee investigating Jan. 6 has powers that reporters lack. It can compel testimony and subpoena documents to address the still unanswered questions — and assure that nothing like Jan. 6 will happen again.
Fresh reporting on Jan. 6 is a powerful rebuke to those minimizing events of that terrible day by S. Scott Johnson on the afternoon of January 6th Insurrection when he said it was just a demonstration.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/11/13/fresh-reporting-jan-6-is-powerful-rebuke-those-minimizing-events-that-terrible-day/
MEANWHILE
(my own comments in brackets)
FOX News
Trump gets 2 court wins: 'Apprentice' contestant's lawsuit dropped, Cohen case dismissed
Dom Calicchio 7 hrs ago
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Friday seemed a successful day in court for former President Donald Trump – with one lawsuit against him withdrawn by the complainant and another dismissed by a judge, according to reports.
In the first case, Summer Zervos, a former contestant on "The Apprentice," ended her 2017 lawsuit against Trump in which she accused the show’s former host of sexually assaulting her....
The reason behind Zervos’ action was not entirely clear but her lawyers issued a statement, Reuters reported.
"Ms. Zervos no longer wishes to litigate against the defendant and has secured the right to speak freely about her experience," lawyers Beth Wilkinson and Moira Penza said Friday, according to the report.
[UH OH!]
Had the lawsuit proceeded, Trump faced a Dec. 23 deadline to appear for a court-ordered deposition in the case, Reuters reported. But Zervos’ withdrawal of the lawsuit ends that obligation for Trump.
Trump claimed in a statement that the end of the lawsuit meant he was "totally vindicated" in the case, the report said.
[BS]
"It is so sad when things like this can happen, but so incredibly important to fight for the truth and justice," Trump said, according to Reuters. "Only victory can restore one’s reputation."
Alina Habba, a lawyer for Trump, noted that Zervos received no payment or attorney’s fees in ending the lawsuit.
"She had no choice but to do so as the facts unearthed in this matter made it abundantly clear that our client did nothing wrong," Habba said.
Zervos appeared on "The Apprentice" with Trump in 2005. In her lawsuit, filed in 2017, she claimed she sought career advice from Trump in 2007 but was subjected to unwanted kissing and groping during their Los Angeles meeting. Afterward, Trump retweeted a post that referred to her claims as a "hoax," Reuters reported.
Trump has claimed Zervos’ allegations of misconduct were politically motivated. Her lawsuit faced delays while Trump served as president, 2017-2021, because he argued that a sitting president could not be sued, according to the report.
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[Well, I don't think we have heard the last of this about dirty Donald, famous for self admittedly grabbing women, LOL]
Pussy grabbing
Pussy grabbing indeed. Real, actual, pussy grabbing. Not some bullshit brag.
"I do remember her telling me that Joe Biden had put her up against a wall and had put his hands up her skirt and had put his fingers inside her," LaCasse said. Reade, as detailed in a previous NPR report, has accused Biden of pinning her against a wall in the hallway of a Capitol Hill building and penetrating her vagina with his fingers in the spring of 1993.
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LaCasse described herself as a "very strong Democrat," who supported Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren during the primaries and intends to support Biden in the general election.
She said she felt compelled to share "the truth" despite her personal politics.
When asked how she reconciles voting for someone she believes assaulted her old friend, LaCasse explained, "Biden isn't a bad guy. I think he's an OK guy. He just has this — this just happened."
Then she clarified: "And this happened, not just happened, this did happen." LaCasse declined to answer how she thinks other voters should consider this allegation as they weigh whether Biden should be president.
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/29/847840765/new-information-emerges-around-biden-sexual-assault-allegation
The bottom line is that Covid now presents the sort of risk to most vaccinated people that we unthinkingly accept in other parts of life. And there is not going to be a day when we wake up to headlines proclaiming that Covid is defeated. In many ways, the future of the virus has arrived.
All of which raises the question of which precautions should end — now or soon — and which should become permanent.
As usual the risk will decrease gradually, but like the flu and measles and chickenpox vaccine injections will be a yearly or six months apart will be a regular season.
The Republicans will never credit Sleepy Joe Biden.
Just like they did after they inherited the longest economic recovery in history.
They cut taxes and increased the deficit astronomicaly.
When the President and the Democrats get the BBB bill passed, and again when the economy continues to grow at a record pace, they will never recover from Trumpism.
They claimed credit.
Part of it was here.
How Does This End? https://nyti.ms/30gjV7b
The Republicans will never credit Sleepy Joe Biden.
Sure they will. They'll give him credit for massive price increases across the fucking board on all things that are necessary to survive. They'll give him credit for massive job losses in the energy industry.
He get's credit for completely screwing the fucking pooch in Afghanistan, and then disrespecting the fallen and their families at Dover AFB.
And best of all, he get's credit for the brazen fucking LIE that he'll "stop Covid in it's tracks."
Brandon Poopypants gets lots of credit alky. Or blame, if you prefer, for consistently turning to complete shit every fucking thing he has touched.
“Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up.”
- Skeets Hussein 0linsky
I’m putting that fact in a headline because somebody needs to.
For the past 15 months, most “news” outlets have been skirting around one simple fact: Kyle Rittenhouse has never shot a black person. Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber, the men who were killed while attacking Rittenhouse, were both white. Gaige Grosskreutz, the man who was shot while pointing a gun at Rittenhouse, is white.
A lot of people still don’t know that fact, because the media they trust to give them the news has hidden it from them. It doesn’t fit the preferred narrative. It doesn’t help promote “social justice.”
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A lot of libs are preparing themselves for the emotional shock of not getting what they want, just because the evidence is completely against them. If they don’t get the result they want, they have to blame anybody but themselves.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Kyle Rittenhouse is neither a hero nor a terrorist. He got in over his head that night and defended his life against people who were attacking him. Self-defense is not murder, even when the press wants it to be because they’re so obsessed with race that they brand someone a white supremacist for shooting three white people.
I just hope it’s too cold in Kenosha right now for anybody to riot. That’s what these ghouls want. More rioting. More destruction. More blood for the blood god.
https://jimtreacher.substack.com/p/kyle-rittenhouse-shot-three-white
Old Dominion University criminal justice professor defends pedophilia
https://www.campusreform.org/article?id=18437
And in the picture it looks just like you would expect it to look.
I'm old enough to remember when we used to treat mental illness. Now we give it tenure.
Read this and see how little credibility rrb has.
Wikipedia: "Donald Trump Sexual Misconduct Allegations"
A multitude of women have accused and are still accusing Trump.
rrb can only come up with one alleged accusation against Biden.
Marshal_Victory
https://mobile.twitter.com/LawSelfDefense/status/1457123388288212993
I once knew a teacher who would not take Wikipedia articles for class work. But citied them for their own political discussions!
Them " But it is on Wikipedia!"
Me " So what if its wrote on the internets bathroom wall."
Law of Self Defense
@LawSelfDefense
Wiki is worse than the bathroom wall. There's at least SOME possibility the bathroom wall might provide a useful phone number. You'll NEVER get that from Wiki.
Andrew Sullivan
https://twitter.com/sullydish/status/1459286667366391808
2016 election. Rittenhouse. Covington. Russian collusion. Vaccines. Bounties on US soldiers. Lab-leak theory. Jussie Smollett. The Pulse shooting. The Atlanta shootings. Hunter Biden laptop. Inflation. Steele Dossier.
The MSM got every single one wrong.
https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/when-all-the-media-narratives-collapse-650
A deep dive into the Rittenhouse trial
* I should say into media including the Rittenhouse trial but much more focused on the FAKE NEWS media
excerpt:
Money quote from the defense lawyer: “It wasn’t until you pointed your gun at him, advanced on him, with your gun (and your hands down) pointed at him, that he fired? Right?” To which Grosskreutz answered: “Correct.” Here’s how the NYT first described this a year ago, on August 26: “Video footage from the scene of the shooting appears to show Mr. Rittenhouse running and then firing his gun, striking a man in the head. He then flees and is chased by bystanders before tripping, falling to the ground and shooting another man.”
A day later, in another NYT piece (which I relied on at the time), here’s the account of video footage they embedded: “As Mr. Rittenhouse is running, he trips and falls to the ground. He fires four shots as three people rush toward him. One person appears to be hit in the chest and falls to the ground. Another, who is carrying a handgun [Grosskreutz], is hit in the arm and runs away.” Any sense of self-defense there? (And when you watch the full version of the same video on YouTube, you see that, for some reason, the NYT cut off the key moment showing Rittenhouse’s self-defense — the moment that proved so critical in court!)
I haven’t watched the whole trial. But if you watch for any length of time, you realize you’ve been led to believe a media narrative that was way off. (Independent journalists last year, like Jesse Singal, were more clear-eyed.) Because of that narrative whiplash, we may have more rioting and violence if he’s acquitted. The judge is already being targeted. I’m not defending Rittenhouse. And I understand news gathering is fallible. But there’s a media pattern here. And it reaches far wider than Rittenhouse.
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Last year people were fired from their jobs for sending $25 anonymously to the Rittenhouse defense fund. Janet Yellen libeled another. "misinformation" which turned out to be correct was banned from social media.
And the future president even weighed in
without evidence or a trial
Banana Republic
FAKE NEWS
state media
His biased views are signs of intent.
The judge forbade the evidence.
So you're saying everybody who is not liberal can't defend themselves?
The judge was correct in denying the prosecution request. It was irrelevant to the issue at hand, There was no foundation and the evidence was prejudicial to the defendant.
Roger wants to convict people for thought crimes.
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