Your teachers always told you that you should have "studied more".
Perhaps you should spend a little time studying the electoral college. Then perhaps you might understand this... just like you might have gotten more than a C+ average a crappy SAT score and no college degree had you studied.
Any who think Trump would have dealt better with the Omicron surge have rocks in their heads. Trump was announcing victory long, long, long before there was any chance at all for victory, while deaths were still mounting across America exponentially.
NOBODY PAYS ATTENTION TO THE CRAP THAT GOES ON HERE ON THIS BLOG. THE POLEMICAL LANGUAGE USED HERE TURNS MOST READERS OFF. CH LONG AGO GAVE THIS BLOG AWAY INTO THE HANDS OF PROPAGANDISTS LIKE RRB BY NOT INSISTING ON A MORE CIVIL, RATIONAL DISCOURSE HERE AND LESS PROFANITY.
I REPEAT THE FOLLOWING FOR THOSE WHO DESIRE A MORE REALISTIC LOOK AT THE PRESENT COVID SITUATION:
Biden and Boris Johnson Are In Sync on Virus Policy January 8, 2022 at 7:31 am EST By Taegan Goddard 34 Comments
New York Times: “It was a striking, if unintended, display of synchronicity from two leaders who began with very different approaches to the pandemic, to say nothing of politics. Their convergence in how to handle the Omicron variant says a lot about how countries are confronting the virus, more than two years after it first threatened the world.
“For Mr. Johnson and Mr. Biden, analysts said, the politics and science of Covid have nudged them toward a policy of trying to live with the virus rather than putting their countries back on war footing. It is a highly risky strategy: Hospitals across Britain and parts of the United States are already close to overrun with patients. But for now, it is better than the alternative: Shutting down their economies again.”
AND MEANWHILE YOUR SIDE PROMULGATES IDIOCIES SUCH AS CH'S CLAIM THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE DATA AS TO WHETHER VACCINATIONS AND BOOSTERS DECREASE THE LIKELIHOOD THAT INFECTION WILL RESULT IN MORE SERIOUS ILLNESS AND EVEN DEATH.
Can you send me a link to the data that you have uncovered? I would be happy to review it and even happier as a vaccinated person to know that I am better protected....
Meanwhile the actual data is showing that at one time you could reduce your chances of catching Covid by a quarter (4.2 times higher for unvaccinated), but that has fallen do about half (2.2 times higher in comparison to the unvaccinated) at least according to numbers from early December. We don't even have the numbers yet since Omicron has been the prominent strain.
Dying when from 4.1 higher for the unvaccinated to 3.1 higher for the unvaccinated (in August) down to 2.7 higher for the unvaccinated in September. (Takes longer to determine information on deaths).
These are numbers taken from PA Dept of Health updated last in December and look almost identical to other numbers I have seen. These numbers are suspected to change even more since Omicron has taken center stage.
We know that you can transmit and catch Omicron when vaccinated. Nobody anywhere is arguing differently. The Booster is said to be about 37% effective (reduces your changes of catching by 37%). But that is just a claim at this point, I have not seen any data or actual numbers.
But if our information and analysis on deaths lags by two months or more on a lot of this, it will be sometime before we know exactly how this is all is playing out. It takes weeks for someone to go from catching Covid to getting sick to eventually passing away.
But again, Reverend...
Any actual data you can provide that I have not yet seen... please link. All I have from you now are words, not links to data.
"Chicago, the nation's third-largest city, leads the nation with 739 homicides as of the end of November, up 3% from 2020, according to Chicago Police Department crime data."
While crime goes up due to socialist democrat policies and DA's
Thanks Soros
Poll: Just 11 Percent Say President Biden Is a ‘Very Strong’ Leader
Just eleven percent of adult citizens believe President Biden is a “very strong” leader, an Economist/YouGov poll revealed Wednesday.
As Biden has resided in the Oval Office for nearly a year, only eleven percent say Biden is a “strong leader,” while 41 percent believe he is a “very weak” leader. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/01/05/poll-just-11-percent-say-president-biden-is-a-very-strong-leader/
Ch, I have suggested that you should ask the people who work in hospitals.
BUT I am sure NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING will ever dissuade you from you Trump-induced prejudices.
STILL, you might want at least to consider the following:
THE PHILADELPHIA ENQUIRER
About 90% of COVID-19 patients in some of Pa.’s hardest-hit hospitals are unvaccinated
“Every day, there are patients dying in our hospitals who really don’t need to die,” said one south-central Pennsylvania hospital leader.
by Justine McDaniel and Erin McCarthy
Published Jan 7, 2022
Pennsylvania hospitals say the vast majority of hospitalized coronavirus patients are still unvaccinated — as high as 90% at some hospitals — even as more vaccinated people are also getting infected amid the omicron-delta surge.
Over the last year, the rate of hospitalization and death among unvaccinated people in the United States has been much higher than for those fully vaccinated.
But now as more immunized people get breakthrough cases of the omicron variant of the virus, the protection provided by the vaccine has been proven again and again, doctors say. While the shots do not always prevent mild or asymptomatic infections, the risk of not being vaccinated is on grim display, they say, pointing to their overflowing wards and strained intensive care units.
“Every day, there are patients dying in our hospitals who really don’t need to die,” said Gerald Maloney, chief medical officer for hospital services at Geisinger Health. “But by the time they come to the hospital, it’s too late for a vaccine, and that’s the tragedy.”
Across the Geisinger Health system, which operates nine hospitals in northeastern and central Pennsylvania, 98% are either unvaccinated or not fully vaccinated.
At WellSpan Health in south-central Pennsylvania, about 90% of COVID-19 patients in their eight hospitals are unvaccinated, and 95% of those on ventilators are unvaccinated. The number was also 90% at Guthrie’s hospitals in northeast Pennsylvania and southeast New York. At Lehigh Valley Health Network, 75% to 85% are unvaccinated, with the proportion higher of those who are in the ICU.
Those health systems are among those experiencing the worst strain in the state. In Philadelphia, Health Commissioner Cheryl Bettigole also said this week that those hospitalized in the city are usually unvaccinated or haven’t had booster shots. And Montgomery County officials at a news briefing asked residents to get vaccinated to avoid being hospitalized and “protect our hospitals.”
Doctors expect the fast rise in the number of people who need hospital care — more than 6,400 coronavirus patients were hospitalized in Pennsylvania on Friday, up from 4,700 two weeks earlier — to continue for at least two to three weeks.
“Many of those people will be seriously ill. That will disproportionately be people who have chosen not to get vaccinated,” said Donald Yealy, chief medical officer at University of Pittsburgh Medical Center. “So, again, the message: Please get vaccinated.”
The statistics provided by the hospitals also provide some of the first data on breakthrough hospitalizations in Pennsylvania since omicron began spreading more widely (though many hospitalized now may still be infected with the delta variant). In the month preceding Dec. 6, the last time Pennsylvania updated its data and before omicron was dominant, about 78% of hospitalizations were among people who were not fully vaccinated.
Now, although vaccinated people are contracting omicron, meaning the variant can evade vaccine protection to a degree, the vaccine remains effective in preventing severe illness and death — vaccinated peoples’ cases are more likely to be mild.
“If you haven’t been vaccinated, this looks very much like the previous versions of the virus,” Yealy said of the illness caused by the omicron variant. “You don’t get the benefit of the milder version as much if you haven’t been vaccinated.”
At Penn State Health, interim hospital medicine chief Fahad Khalid walked through the intensive care unit at the Milton S. Hershey Medical Center on Thursday.
Inside were 33 COVID-19 patients. All were unvaccinated.
“We continue to struggle,” Khalid said at a virtual briefing.
The vaccinated people who do end up hospitalized with the virus usually have significant underlying conditions, are very immunocompromised, or elderly, hospital leaders say.
In a new report this week, the CDC said that
out of more than 1.2 million vaccinated Americans, 0.015% had been hospitalized with the virus and 0.003% had died from it, making those outcomes rare for vaccinated people. All who had severe cases had at least one underlying condition, or “risk factors,” and 78% of the relatively small number who died had at least four risk factors.
Just under 65% of Pennsylvania’s total population is considered fully vaccinated — two doses of Moderna or Pfizer or one dose of Johnson & Johnson — and 33% of those also have a booster dose. A booster dose is necessary to have the best protection, particularly against the omicron variant, doctors say. Of adults, 75% are fully vaccinated and 91% have at least one dose.
Still, every day, thousands of people are getting COVID-19 shots, and some of them are getting their very first.
At WellSpan Health, doctors have been urging people to get the shots “ceaselessly,” said Anthony Aquilina, chief physician executive. He made another plea at a briefing on Thursday.
“The science is there,” he said. “All you have to do is come and visit our ICUs to see how true that is.”
Published Jan. 7, 2022 Justine McDaniel I am a general assignment reporter, covering the coronavirus in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey.
Erin McCarthy I write about how the COVID-19 pandemic has impacted life in the Philly region, sports, and whatever else gets newsy.
Who can get a COVID-19 vaccine
Anyone 5 or older is eligible for a COVID-19 vaccine.
Vaccines are free and available at clinics, pharmacies, and doctor's offices.
Everyone 12 and older who received Pfizer should get a booster shot five months after their second dose. Children 12 and up are now eligible in addition to adults.
Moderna recipients 18 and older should get a booster shot six months after their second dose — but the CDC is poised to change its recommendation in the coming days to allow boosters after five months.
Johnson & Johnson recipients 18 and older should get a booster two months after their initial vaccination.
If you have questions about getting the vaccine, contact your doctor or your local health department.
C.H. Truth quotes me as saying, "You asked for data proving that vaccinations and boosters are helping to keep people from being hospitalized with more severe symptoms and even dying, and I have provided it." ______
Ch "Truth" says I have seen no links to actual data, Reverend...
And I am specifically referring to data in regards to the Omicron variant.
I see you providing anecdotal quotes and statements by people. These opinions might have merit, but it's not the same thing as actual data. We have seen about 1001 thing "stated" about Covid that turned out to be patently false when all is said and done.
As a member of clergy it is your job to act on faith. Just believe what you are told, because much of it cannot be proven. Easy to be trained to be obedient to opinions.
In my job I have to be skeptical of any and all claims until they can be proven. IF I allowed myself to believe everything I was told, my success level would be next to zero. My job requires me (as hard as it is sometimes) for everyone to provide me the data or proof of what it is that they are saying.
I don't simply believe people when they say something, especially if there are motives involved. ______
You should be ashamed, Ch. You are calling people who work in hospitals and see first hand what is happening there liars. They have no political agenda, as you and I do. They only want what is really best for people. You should really, really be ashamed of yourself.
I am not going on "faith," but on the reality those people are experiencing, both the ones serving there and the ones unnecessarily suffering and dying there.
By the admission of your own articles... this is all based on information that took place mainly in November or earlier (the one article states that information is prior to Dec 6th because it was the last time the data was updated) and I am not seeing a SINGLE LINK to the data that I can verify for myself.
These are just statements from "people" who are making unrealistic claims like "all of our patients are unvaccinated". THe last set of data I got from the Minnesota HHS website showed more vaccinated than unvaccinated had been hospitalized... largely because most people who are hospitalized are older and most older people are vaccinated.
But to claim that there is not a single person in a hospital someone that is unvaccinated, when HHS numbers are showing a majority in other states are vaccinated... I find that highly dubious.
Bottom line:
Last actual data I had been looking at was showing more vaccinated people in the hospital than unvaccinated. That makes sense considering 80% of our population is vaccinated. This was from the Minnesota websites.
From my own research I am not finding much of anything from the numbers we are seeing in December. Most everything is through November or maybe the first week in December.
Lastly.. I don't believe ANYONE who is claiming that all of their patients are suddenly unvaccinated. In fact, nobody that has been following the numbers recently should believe any of that.
I didn't know this was in from a newsite on the internet. If that is the case, then it must be true, huh? Internet news sites have never provided anything that is not 100% true.
I'll assume you will believe anything and everything I post from the internet.
THE GUARDIAN Covid live: No need for fourth jab yet, UK advisers say; UK experts say protection against hospitalisation still 90% three months after booster
And we in the United States are experiencing smiliar results: The vaccinated who have received a booster are being hospitalized far less and suffering far less and dying far less.
Your article is from Philadelphia, which is Pennsylvania.
According to the most recent numbers from the Pennsylvania Department of Health... they are showing 23% of of their hospitalizations were fully vaccinated over the past 30 day period, and doing some quick math about 55% were unvaccinated or not fully vaccinated, while the rest had "unknown" vaccination status.
______
So when I read this:
Across the Geisinger Health system, which operates nine hospitals in northeastern and central Pennsylvania, 98% are either unvaccinated or not fully vaccinated.
At WellSpan Health in south-central Pennsylvania, about 90% of COVID-19 patients in their eight hospitals are unvaccinated, and 95% of those on ventilators are unvaccinated. The number was also 90% at Guthrie’s hospitals in northeast Pennsylvania and southeast New York.
Or... Inside were 33 COVID-19 patients. All were unvaccinated.
__________
There is a disconnect between what these individuals are stating and what the Department of Health Website is stating.
So you tell me, Reverend...
Are these unidentified people giving information to the media being truthful and honest... and the PA Department of Health is giving erroneous statistics or do you suppose that the media report just "might" be a little bit exaggerated?
The Philadelphis Enquirer is the third-oldest continually operating daily newspaper in the United States. Owned by The Lenfest Institute, a subsidiary of The Philadelphia Foundation, The Inquirer is the largest newspaper in the United States organized under nonprofit ownership. As of 2007, it is the 17th largest average weekday U.S. newspaper circulation, and has won 20 Pulitzer Prizes as of 2021. Since the 1970s, new owners and editors turned the newspaper into one of the country's most prominent, and it presently prides itself on its political independence.
What Ch says above is like comparing apples and oranges and does NOT contradict what the Enquirer article says.
33 comments:
Biden announced a new plan.
Rack up more deaths in his promised "Winter of Death"
James and Roger failed US ConLaw 101.
C.H. TruthJanuary 7, 2022 at 9:36 PM
Roger...
Your teachers always told you that you should have "studied more".
Perhaps you should spend a little time studying the electoral college. Then perhaps you might understand this... just like you might have gotten more than a C+ average a crappy SAT score and no college degree had you studied.
What is the breakdown between vaccinated and unvaccinated ?
Are we collecting any good and trustworthy data yet from hospitals ?
Are we random sampling the population to find the real current status ?
Do we have trustworthy data of "vaccine" side affects yet ?
Why not?
Thanks Fauci
I see health officials are finally acknowledging there is a difference of dying or being hospitalized WITH Covid rather than FROM Covid.
Would appear to be an important thing to know.
And report
thanks Fauci
Well, known data is "100,000 children are in Hospitals".
That much is known.
And how about good data from people who have had prior Covid infections ?
Fauci get on that yet ?
of course not
But did you know he got on the cover of some magazines and gave interviews for some flattering upcoming books and articles on him
His eye is on the prize
But no time to appear with medical professionals who disagree with him
Even if they are way more current and credentialed
5 million jobs behind Trump.
"The economy is still 5 million jobs under the peak reached before the pandemic, according to Politifact. "
Any who think Trump would have dealt better with the Omicron surge have rocks in their heads. Trump was announcing victory long, long, long before there was any chance at all for victory, while deaths were still mounting across America exponentially.
NOBODY PAYS ATTENTION TO THE CRAP THAT GOES ON HERE ON THIS BLOG.
THE POLEMICAL LANGUAGE USED HERE TURNS MOST READERS OFF. CH LONG AGO GAVE THIS BLOG AWAY INTO THE HANDS OF PROPAGANDISTS LIKE RRB BY NOT INSISTING ON A MORE CIVIL, RATIONAL DISCOURSE HERE AND LESS PROFANITY.
I REPEAT THE FOLLOWING FOR THOSE WHO DESIRE A MORE REALISTIC LOOK AT THE PRESENT COVID SITUATION:
Biden and Boris Johnson Are In Sync on Virus Policy
January 8, 2022 at 7:31 am EST By Taegan Goddard 34 Comments
New York Times:
“It was a striking, if unintended, display of synchronicity from two leaders who began with very different approaches to the pandemic, to say nothing of politics. Their convergence in how to handle the Omicron variant says a lot about how countries are confronting the virus, more than two years after it first threatened the world.
“For Mr. Johnson and Mr. Biden, analysts said, the politics and science of Covid have nudged them toward a policy of trying to live with the virus rather than putting their countries back on war footing. It is a highly risky strategy:
Hospitals across Britain and parts of the United States are already close to overrun with patients. But for now, it is better than the alternative: Shutting down their economies again.”
AND MEANWHILE YOUR SIDE PROMULGATES IDIOCIES SUCH AS CH'S CLAIM THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE DATA AS TO WHETHER VACCINATIONS AND BOOSTERS DECREASE THE LIKELIHOOD THAT INFECTION WILL RESULT IN MORE SERIOUS ILLNESS AND EVEN DEATH.
TRY CHECKING WITH THE HOSPITALS ON THAT ONE!
Fauci doesn't want to compile natural immunity data mostly because Rand Paul wants it. Those two can't stand each other.
Wonderful morning to you Reverend...
Can you send me a link to the data that you have uncovered? I would be happy to review it and even happier as a vaccinated person to know that I am better protected....
Meanwhile the actual data is showing that at one time you could reduce your chances of catching Covid by a quarter (4.2 times higher for unvaccinated), but that has fallen do about half (2.2 times higher in comparison to the unvaccinated) at least according to numbers from early December. We don't even have the numbers yet since Omicron has been the prominent strain.
Dying when from 4.1 higher for the unvaccinated to 3.1 higher for the unvaccinated (in August) down to 2.7 higher for the unvaccinated in September. (Takes longer to determine information on deaths).
These are numbers taken from PA Dept of Health updated last in December and look almost identical to other numbers I have seen. These numbers are suspected to change even more since Omicron has taken center stage.
We know that you can transmit and catch Omicron when vaccinated. Nobody anywhere is arguing differently. The Booster is said to be about 37% effective (reduces your changes of catching by 37%). But that is just a claim at this point, I have not seen any data or actual numbers.
But if our information and analysis on deaths lags by two months or more on a lot of this, it will be sometime before we know exactly how this is all is playing out. It takes weeks for someone to go from catching Covid to getting sick to eventually passing away.
But again, Reverend...
Any actual data you can provide that I have not yet seen... please link. All I have from you now are words, not links to data.
Wow what an unhinged lunatic that lying POS "pastor" (who now calls himself "Decent, honest, truthtelling free speech advocate") is.
and he has to shout and repeat in a blog he says nobody pays attention to.
which was just copied from another blog
again
GODdard thou name is not james boswell
but I am boswell's daddy
ROFLMFAO !!!
Vax Watch
https://gab.com/vaxwatch/posts/107587470467013443
Myocarditis was rare until 2021. Any guesses why?
LOOK
https://openvaers.com/covid-data/myo-pericarditis
Maybe Fauci can explain
and say what he is doing about it
Has Joe asked ?
James is always free to go somewhere else.
Myballs said...
James is always free to go somewhere else.
He obviously has no other place to go
At least until roger needs a different bunky
James has a website?
Roger predicted as Biden was installed into office that Biden would have the Economy back to pre pandemic highs.
5 million jobs behind Trump.
"The economy is still 5 million jobs under the peak reached before the pandemic, according to Politifact. "
I find it astounding that many cities now have soft on crime liberal DAs and reduced police budgets and can't understand why crime is up.
Today's socialist democrat party is destroying the country.
Obama's city
"Chicago, the nation's third-largest city, leads the nation with 739 homicides as of the end of November, up 3% from 2020, according to Chicago Police Department crime data."
How low can he go ?
While crime goes up due to socialist democrat policies and DA's
Thanks Soros
Poll: Just 11 Percent Say President Biden Is a ‘Very Strong’ Leader
Just eleven percent of adult citizens believe President Biden is a “very strong” leader, an Economist/YouGov poll revealed Wednesday.
As Biden has resided in the Oval Office for nearly a year, only eleven percent say Biden is a “strong leader,” while 41 percent believe he is a “very weak” leader.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/01/05/poll-just-11-percent-say-president-biden-is-a-very-strong-leader/
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Ch, I have suggested that you should ask the people who work in hospitals.
BUT I am sure NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING will ever dissuade you from you Trump-induced prejudices.
STILL, you might want at least to consider the following:
THE PHILADELPHIA ENQUIRER
About 90% of COVID-19 patients in some of Pa.’s hardest-hit hospitals are unvaccinated
“Every day, there are patients dying in our hospitals who really don’t need to die,” said one south-central Pennsylvania hospital leader.
by Justine McDaniel and Erin McCarthy
Published Jan 7, 2022
Pennsylvania hospitals say the vast majority of hospitalized coronavirus patients are still unvaccinated — as high as 90% at some hospitals — even as more vaccinated people are also getting infected amid the omicron-delta surge.
Over the last year, the rate of hospitalization and death among unvaccinated people in the United States has been much higher than for those fully vaccinated.
But now as more immunized people get breakthrough cases of the omicron variant of the virus, the protection provided by the vaccine has been proven again and again, doctors say. While the shots do not always prevent mild or asymptomatic infections, the risk of not being vaccinated is on grim display, they say, pointing to their overflowing wards and strained intensive care units.
“Every day, there are patients dying in our hospitals who really don’t need to die,” said Gerald Maloney, chief medical officer for hospital services at Geisinger Health. “But by the time they come to the hospital, it’s too late for a vaccine, and that’s the tragedy.”
Across the Geisinger Health system, which operates nine hospitals in northeastern and central Pennsylvania, 98% are either unvaccinated or not fully vaccinated.
At WellSpan Health in south-central Pennsylvania, about 90% of COVID-19 patients in their eight hospitals are unvaccinated, and 95% of those on ventilators are unvaccinated. The number was also 90% at Guthrie’s hospitals in northeast Pennsylvania and southeast New York. At Lehigh Valley Health Network, 75% to 85% are unvaccinated, with the proportion higher of those who are in the ICU.
Those health systems are among those experiencing the worst strain in the state. In Philadelphia, Health Commissioner Cheryl Bettigole also said this week that those hospitalized in the city are usually unvaccinated or haven’t had booster shots. And Montgomery County officials at a news briefing asked residents to get vaccinated to avoid being hospitalized and “protect our hospitals.”
Doctors expect the fast rise in the number of people who need hospital care — more than 6,400 coronavirus patients were hospitalized in Pennsylvania on Friday, up from 4,700 two weeks earlier — to continue for at least two to three weeks.
“Many of those people will be seriously ill. That will disproportionately be people who have chosen not to get vaccinated,” said Donald Yealy, chief medical officer at University of Pittsburgh Medical Center. “So, again, the message: Please get vaccinated.”
The statistics provided by the hospitals also provide some of the first data on breakthrough hospitalizations in Pennsylvania since omicron began spreading more widely (though many hospitalized now may still be infected with the delta variant). In the month preceding Dec. 6, the last time Pennsylvania updated its data and before omicron was dominant, about 78% of hospitalizations were among people who were not fully vaccinated.
Now, although vaccinated people are contracting omicron, meaning the variant can evade vaccine protection to a degree,
the vaccine remains effective in preventing severe illness and death — vaccinated peoples’ cases are more likely to be mild.
“If you haven’t been vaccinated, this looks very much like the previous versions of the virus,” Yealy said of the illness caused by the omicron variant.
“You don’t get the benefit of the milder version as much if you haven’t been vaccinated.”
At Penn State Health, interim hospital medicine chief Fahad Khalid walked through the intensive care unit at the Milton S. Hershey Medical Center on Thursday.
Inside were 33 COVID-19 patients. All were unvaccinated.
“We continue to struggle,” Khalid said at a virtual briefing.
The vaccinated people who do end up hospitalized with the virus usually have significant underlying conditions, are very immunocompromised, or elderly, hospital leaders say.
In a new report this week, the CDC said that
out of more than 1.2 million vaccinated Americans, 0.015% had been hospitalized with the virus and 0.003% had died from it, making those outcomes rare for vaccinated people. All who had severe cases had at least one underlying condition, or “risk factors,” and 78% of the relatively small number who died had at least four risk factors.
Just under 65% of Pennsylvania’s total population is considered fully vaccinated — two doses of Moderna or Pfizer or one dose of Johnson & Johnson — and 33% of those also have a booster dose. A booster dose is necessary to have the best protection, particularly against the omicron variant, doctors say. Of adults, 75% are fully vaccinated and 91% have at least one dose.
Still, every day, thousands of people are getting COVID-19 shots, and some of them are getting their very first.
At WellSpan Health, doctors have been urging people to get the shots “ceaselessly,” said Anthony Aquilina, chief physician executive. He made another plea at a briefing on Thursday.
“The science is there,” he said. “All you have to do is come and visit our ICUs to see how true that is.”
Published Jan. 7, 2022
Justine McDaniel
I am a general assignment reporter, covering the coronavirus in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey.
Erin McCarthy
I write about how the COVID-19 pandemic has impacted life in the Philly region, sports, and whatever else gets newsy.
Who can get a COVID-19 vaccine
Anyone 5 or older is eligible for a COVID-19 vaccine.
Vaccines are free and available at clinics, pharmacies, and doctor's offices.
Everyone 12 and older who received Pfizer should get a booster shot five months after their second dose. Children 12 and up are now eligible in addition to adults.
Moderna recipients 18 and older should get a booster shot six months after their second dose — but the CDC is poised to change its recommendation in the coming days to allow boosters after five months.
Johnson & Johnson recipients 18 and older should get a booster two months after their initial vaccination.
If you have questions about getting the vaccine, contact your doctor or your local health department.
CH, you should not only admit you have been wrong all along, you should REPENTANTLY admit that.
You are among those who have blindly followed Trump against all the evidence and advice of genuine scientists and doctors.
And it has resulted in far more suffering and death for our people than our nation should have experienced.
C.H. Truth quotes me as saying,
"You asked for data proving that vaccinations and boosters are helping to keep people from being hospitalized with more severe symptoms and even dying, and I have provided it."
______
Ch "Truth" says
I have seen no links to actual data, Reverend...
And I am specifically referring to data in regards to the Omicron variant.
I see you providing anecdotal quotes and statements by people. These opinions might have merit, but it's not the same thing as actual data. We have seen about 1001 thing "stated" about Covid that turned out to be patently false when all is said and done.
As a member of clergy it is your job to act on faith. Just believe what you are told, because much of it cannot be proven. Easy to be trained to be obedient to opinions.
In my job I have to be skeptical of any and all claims until they can be proven. IF I allowed myself to believe everything I was told, my success level would be next to zero. My job requires me (as hard as it is sometimes) for everyone to provide me the data or proof of what it is that they are saying.
I don't simply believe people when they say something, especially if there are motives involved.
______
Decent, honest, truthtelling free speech advocate said...
You should be ashamed, Ch. You are calling people who work in hospitals and see first hand what is happening there liars. They have no political agenda, as you and I do. They only want what is really best for people. You should really, really be ashamed of yourself.
I am not going on "faith," but on the reality those people are experiencing, both the ones serving there and the ones unnecessarily suffering and dying there.
Really, you should be ashamed.
Reverend...
By the admission of your own articles... this is all based on information that took place mainly in November or earlier (the one article states that information is prior to Dec 6th because it was the last time the data was updated) and I am not seeing a SINGLE LINK to the data that I can verify for myself.
These are just statements from "people" who are making unrealistic claims like "all of our patients are unvaccinated". THe last set of data I got from the Minnesota HHS website showed more vaccinated than unvaccinated had been hospitalized... largely because most people who are hospitalized are older and most older people are vaccinated.
But to claim that there is not a single person in a hospital someone that is unvaccinated, when HHS numbers are showing a majority in other states are vaccinated... I find that highly dubious.
Bottom line:
Last actual data I had been looking at was showing more vaccinated people in the hospital than unvaccinated. That makes sense considering 80% of our population is vaccinated. This was from the Minnesota websites.
From my own research I am not finding much of anything from the numbers we are seeing in December. Most everything is through November or maybe the first week in December.
Lastly.. I don't believe ANYONE who is claiming that all of their patients are suddenly unvaccinated. In fact, nobody that has been following the numbers recently should believe any of that.
"All" their patients? They aren't saying that. Stop lying your usual lies.
Bullshit, Ch.
Your usual bullshit.
And that article appeared in the The Philadelphia Enquirer YESTERDAY.
Your twisted thinking is not worth replying to.
But of course you will spin on. Dance on. Lie on.
I really wonder what your wife thinks of you. I bet you don't let her read this blog.
Oh sorry Reverend
I didn't know this was in from a newsite on the internet. If that is the case, then it must be true, huh? Internet news sites have never provided anything that is not 100% true.
I'll assume you will believe anything and everything I post from the internet.
Prove to us, using any source, us that the Philadelphia Enquirer did not say all that yesterday.
You can't.
THE GUARDIAN
Covid live: No need for fourth jab yet, UK advisers say;
UK experts say protection against hospitalisation still 90% three months after booster
And we in the United States are experiencing smiliar results:
The vaccinated who have received a booster are being hospitalized far less and suffering far less and dying far less.
Didn't the Donald tell us the virus would be gone by summer before last? You guess he had "data" for that?
Reverend....
Your article is from Philadelphia, which is Pennsylvania.
According to the most recent numbers from the Pennsylvania Department of Health... they are showing 23% of of their hospitalizations were fully vaccinated over the past 30 day period, and doing some quick math about 55% were unvaccinated or not fully vaccinated, while the rest had "unknown" vaccination status.
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So when I read this:
Across the Geisinger Health system, which operates nine hospitals in northeastern and central Pennsylvania, 98% are either unvaccinated or not fully vaccinated.
At WellSpan Health in south-central Pennsylvania, about 90% of COVID-19 patients in their eight hospitals are unvaccinated, and 95% of those on ventilators are unvaccinated. The number was also 90% at Guthrie’s hospitals in northeast Pennsylvania and southeast New York.
Or... Inside were 33 COVID-19 patients. All were unvaccinated.
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There is a disconnect between what these individuals are stating and what the Department of Health Website is stating.
So you tell me, Reverend...
Are these unidentified people giving information to the media being truthful and honest... and the PA Department of Health is giving erroneous statistics or do you suppose that the media report just "might" be a little bit exaggerated?
The Philadelphis Enquirer is the third-oldest continually operating daily newspaper in the United States. Owned by The Lenfest Institute, a subsidiary of The Philadelphia Foundation, The Inquirer is the largest newspaper in the United States organized under nonprofit ownership. As of 2007, it is the 17th largest average weekday U.S. newspaper circulation, and has won 20 Pulitzer Prizes as of 2021. Since the 1970s, new owners and editors turned the newspaper into one of the country's most prominent, and it presently prides itself on its political independence.
What Ch says above is like comparing apples and oranges and does NOT contradict what the Enquirer article says.
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