KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Fears of a new war in Europe resurged Thursday as U.S. President Joe Biden warned that Russia could invade Ukraine within days, and violence spiked in a long-running standoff in eastern Ukraine that some worried could provide the spark for wider conflict.
World dignitaries raced for solutions, but suspicions between East and West only seemed to grow, as NATO allies rejected Russian assertions it was pulling back troops from exercises that had fueled fears of an attack. Russia is believed to have built up some 150,000 military forces around Ukraine’s borders. Concerns escalated in the West over what exactly Russia is doing with those troops, which included an estimated 60% of Russia’s overall ground forces. The Kremlin insists it has no plans to invade, but it has long considered Ukraine part of its sphere of influence and NATO’s eastward expansion an existential threat.
The U.S. government issued some of its starkest, most detailed warnings yet about what could happen next. Speaking at the U.N. Security Council, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken revealed some conclusions of U.S. intelligence in a strategy that the U.S. and Britain have hoped will expose and pre-empt any invasion planning. The U.S. has declined to reveal much of the evidence underlying its claims.
I am not sure if Biden actually wants Russia to invade Ukraine and is just hanging on to the hope that they do... or possibly he is hoping that they back off, but doesn't want anyone to think they got taken by surprise if it still happens. But this has been going on for a couple of weeks, with predictions of invasions that should have started well over a week ago. First it was last week, then last weekend, then this week, and now... well it's almost the weekend again. Maybe they should concentrate less on predictions and more on quiet planning.
Either way, Biden has already managed to screw this up no matter what happens. Moreover, I am not sure how much anyone really cares about Russia and Ukraine anyhow? Does the volume really need to be turned up to 11 on this issue? We all know that Putin has his boot square on the neck of Biden right now and will not let him up until Biden concedes to his wishes. Just admit it and move on. Biden can hardly get less popular.
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Compare this to the dribble in Ch's thread article:
Doubting Russian Exit, NATO Looks to Bolster Its Defenses
NATO defense ministers are examining new ways to bolster the defenses of member countries on the organization’s eastern flank closest to Russia.
NATO defense ministers are meeting to discuss Russia's military buildup around Ukraine as it fuels one of Europe's biggest security crises in decades.
BRUSSELS (AP) — NATO member countries on Wednesday examined new ways to bolster the defenses of nations on the organization’s eastern flank as Russia’s military buildup around Ukraine fuels one of Europe’s biggest security crises in decades.
Over two days at NATO headquarters in Brussels, defense ministers were to discuss how and when to rapidly dispatch troops and equipment to countries closest to Russia and the Black Sea region should Moscow order an invasion of Ukraine.
U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and his counterparts also plan to weigh the possibility of stationing troops longer-term in southeast Europe, possibly starting later this year. The troops would mirror the presence of some 5,000 servicemembers that have been stationed in allies Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland on a rotating basis in recent years.
The U.S. has started to deploy 5,000 troops to Poland and Romania. Britain is sending hundreds of soldiers to Poland and offering more warships and planes. Germany, the Netherlands and Norway are sending additional troops to Lithuania. Denmark and Spain are providing jets for air policing.
“The fact that we have deployed more NATO troops on the ground, more naval assets, more aircraft, all of that sends a very clear message,” NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said. “I think there is no room for any miscalculation in Moscow about our commitment to defending allies.”
The deployment has come in response to a formidable challenge.
Over the last four months, Russia is estimated to have amassed around 60% of its entire land forces and a significant portion of its air force to the north and east of Ukraine, as well as in neighboring Belarus. Moscow has appeared ready to repeat its 2014 invasion of Ukraine, but on a grander scale.
Russian President Vladimir Putin wants NATO, the world’s biggest security organization, to stop expanding. He demands that the U.S.-led alliance pull its troops and equipment out of countries that joined after 1997 – almost half of NATO’s 30-strong ranks.
NATO cannot accept his terms. It’s founding treaty commits to an “Open Door” policy for European countries that want to join, and a mutual defense clause guarantees that all members will come to the defense of an ally under threat.
Ukraine, though, is not a member and NATO, as an organization, is not willing to come to its defense.
“We have to understand that Ukraine is a partner. We support Ukraine. But for all NATO allies, we provide 100% security guarantees,” Stoltenberg told reporters ahead of Wednesday's meeting.
That said, some member countries are helping Ukraine more directly, such as the U.S., Britain and Canada.
“We will be providing both lethal and non-lethal aid to Ukraine. This is a very significant issue for us all,” Canadian Defense Minister Anita Anand said.
But the “massive costs” promised to Putin should he order an invasion would be economic and political, mostly in the form of sanctions, which are not part of NATO’s remit. The alliance has offered Russia a series of security talks, including on arms control.
Over the last two days, Russia has said that it was returning some troops and weapons to bases, but Stoltenberg said the allies saw no concrete sign of a drawdown and concern that that Russia might invade Ukraine persists.
“They have always moved forces back and forth, so just that we see movement of forces, that doesn’t confirm a real withdrawal," Stoltenberg said. “The trend of the last weeks and months has been a steady increase in the Russian capabilities close to Ukraine’s borders."
Russia poses no direct security threat to any NATO country, but the alliance is concerned about the fallout from any conflict in Ukraine, like a surge of people fleeing fighting across European borders, or possible cyber and disinformation attacks.
Biden's teleprompter exclaiming that Americans must "defend" Ukraine's borders at whatever cost for the preservation of "democracy" while America's unguarded southern border is being flooded with millions of illegal aliens sounded a lot like Reichsführer Fauci informing Americans that the only "scientific" way for a "vaccinated" and masked up city-dweller to survive COVID is for rural folk to "vaccinate" and mask up, too. If masks and vaccines work, why the forced medical tyranny? If Ukraine's border must be preserved for "democracy" to endure, then hello, we already have a gaping "democracy" problem invading our southern defenses. And if Ukraine's "liberty" is worth protecting from marauding tyrants, then surely Americans' liberty from COVID-1984 medical tyranny is worth securing first. Before we volunteer to die for the territorial integrity of Old Europe, let's at least spend some blood and treasure fixing the fence holes supposedly protecting the place we call home and patching up the bullet holes pockmarking a tattered Constitution used as target practice and left for dead by the same ruling class eager to confiscate our guns. Or is it too much to ask our government to pay a "cost" to defend Americans' rights and liberties before ordinary Americans pay a "cost" to defend Ukraine's "sacred honor"?
An honest observer might take a look at this absurd argument for war and conclude that the real game now being played is nothing more than another domestic iteration of distract, distract, distract! Distract from a collapsing economy. Distract from the federal government's unconscionable border policies wreaking havoc on the nation. Distract from growing proof that Obama's intelligence agencies and Hillary's Democrat Party conspired to surveil, sabotage, and overthrow President Trump from office. Distract from the COVID-1984 lies that were told in order to squash Americans' rights and liberties while handing Western governments unprecedented powers over every individual's life. If people are angry, and blame must be leveled, then...oh, look, a squirrel!
As fears of a Russian invasion of Ukraine mount, President Biden is set to speak with global allies on Friday afternoon about Moscow’s buildup of military troops, in a continued effort to deter any hostile advances on its neighbor.
While the American leader has said “there is a path” to a diplomatic resolution, Mr. Biden has also warned that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia could launch an invasion within several days.
Washington and Moscow have been trading conflicting accounts over whether Russian forces are really pulling back from the Ukrainian border, with Russia insisting that it has no plans to invade and dismissing the American warnings as “information terrorism.” A heated exchange of artillery fire on Thursday between Russian-backed separatists and Ukrainian government forces, the most intense in months, amplified the tensions.
The separatists claimed on Thursday that they had come under fire from Ukrainians, the type of fighting that Western officials have warned Moscow might try to use to justify military action. The Ukrainian military said that shelling at a kindergarten had wounded three adult civilians.
The fighting set off another diplomatic scramble. A White House official said that Mr. Biden would host a phone call with trans-Atlantic leaders in “continued efforts to pursue deterrence and diplomacy.” It is unclear who will join.
Russian or Russian-backed
military positions as of Feb. 13
Ukraine
Yelnya
BELARUS
Source: Rochan Consulting | Map notes: Russia invaded and annexed the Crimean Peninsula in 2014. The action was widely condemned under international law, and the territory remains disputed. The dotted line in eastern Ukraine is the approximate dividing line between the Ukrainian military and Russian-backed separatists who have been fighting since 2014. On the eastern edge of Moldova is Transnistria, a Russian-backed breakaway region.By Scott Reinhard
Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken on Thursday made an unscheduled trip to New York, where he told the United Nations Security Council that Moscow appeared to be setting the stage for an attack. Mr. Blinken also accepted a proposal to meet with Russia’s foreign minister, Sergey V. Lavrov, late next week.
A State Department spokesman, Ned Price, did not provide a time or place for the meeting, the diplomats’ second in two months, except to say that it would not happen if Russia attacked Ukraine. “If they do invade in the coming days, it will make clear they were never serious about diplomacy,” Mr. Price said in a statement.
The Kremlin’s spokesman, Dmitri S. Peskov, also offered an ominous assessment on Thursday. “The excessive concentration of Ukrainian forces near the contact line, together with possible provocations, can pose terrible danger,” he said.
No one wants Russia to invade Ukraine more than Sloppy Joe. He's desperate for it. Desperate because he needs the diversion.
Why, you ask?
35% approval and FALLING.
Need. Diversion. Now.
And Putin is just fucking with him for fun at this point.
Show your plagiarism, alky -
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/02/ukraine_wont_fix_inflation_or_an_addled_president.html
A step by step expose on how lily white assholes like Lil Schitty have been brainwashed about the Hillary bullshit spying he believes......Sad what a simpleton he has become as he flails away at windmills.......BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/18/how-right-embraced-false-claim-clinton-spied-president-trump/
And our idiot rat still projecting his own insecurity with charges of plagiarism.....no wonder why he flunked out of Ag school be become a trump supporter !!!!! LOLOLOLOLOL
WP
President Biden will hold talks with other Western leaders Friday about the Ukraine crisis, as 11th-hour efforts to prevent a Russian attack continue against the grim backdrop of widespread shelling in eastern Ukraine and Moscow’s continued troop buildup at the border.
The White House will host a call with top officials — including French President Emmanuel Macron, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and British Prime Minister Boris Johnson — during which the Kremlin’s military buildup will be discussed. Biden told reporters that the threat of a renewed invasion remains “very high” and that a Russian attack could happen in the “next several days.”
Vice President Harris, in Munich for a major security conference, is set to meet with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, representatives of NATO’s three Baltic states and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Secretary of State Antony Blinken agreed to meet Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov next week under the condition that Moscow refrains from attacking Ukraine.
Here’s what to know
U.S. officials have obtained intelligence that Russia’s announced military pullback from Ukraine’s border was a deliberate ruse to mislead the United States and other world powers, four officials said Thursday.
As Biden offered a bleak warning of imminent Russian aggression, Blinken said the Kremlin could carry out a “fake, even a real, attack using chemical weapons” to justify a strike on Ukraine.
An observer mission from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe said it counted 591 violations of the cease-fire in eastern Ukraine on Wednesday, up from 153 the day before.
Some people are beginning to think that Vladimir Putin is the Russian Sleepy Vladimir Putin.
MOSCOW — At this moment of crescendo for the Ukraine crisis, it all comes down to what kind of leader President Vladimir V. Putin is.
In Moscow, many analysts remain convinced that the Russian president is essentially rational, and that the risks of invading Ukraine would be so great that his huge troop buildup makes sense only as a very convincing bluff. But some also leave the door open to the idea that he has fundamentally changed amid the pandemic, a shift that may have left him more paranoid, more aggrieved and more reckless.
The 20-foot-long table that Mr. Putin has used to socially distance himself this month from European leaders flying in for crisis talks symbolizes, to some longtime observers, his detachment from the rest of the world. For almost two years, Mr. Putin has ensconced himself in a virus-free cocoon unlike that of any Western leader, with state television showing him holding most key meetings by teleconference alone in a room and keeping even his own ministers at a distance on the rare occasions that he summons them in person.
Speculation over a leader’s mental state is always fraught, but as Mr. Putin’s momentous decision approaches, Moscow commentators puzzling over what he might do next in Ukraine are finding some degree of armchair psychology hard to avoid
“There’s this impression of irritation, of a lack of interest, of an unwillingness to delve into anything new,” Ekaterina Schulmann, a political scientist and former member of Mr. Putin’s human rights council, said of the president’s recent public appearances. “The public is being shown that he has been in practical isolation, with ever fewer breaks, since the spring of 2020.”
He's 69 years old.
I hope that they are right.
Given that such a war still seems unthinkable and irrational to so many in Moscow, Russian foreign policy experts generally see the standoff over Ukraine as the latest stage in Mr. Putin’s yearslong effort to compel the West to accept what he sees as fundamental Russian security concerns. In the 1990s, that thinking goes, the West forced a new European order upon a weak Russia that disregarded its historical need for a geopolitical buffer zone to its west. And now that Russia is stronger, these experts say, it would be reasonable for any Kremlin leader to try to redraw that map.
Fyodor Lukyanov, a prominent Moscow foreign policy analyst who advises the Kremlin, said Mr. Putin’s goal now was “to force the outcome of the Cold War to be partially revised.” But he still believes Mr. Putin will stop short of full-scale invasion, instead using “special, asymmetric or hybrid means” — including making the West believe that he is truly prepared to attack.
“A bluff has to be very convincing,” Mr. Lukyanov said. And the United States, he went on, with its robust portrayals of an aggressive Russia poised for invasion, “is playing along at 200 percent.”
Fascinating story
Vladimir Putin: Crafty Strategist or Aggrieved and Reckless Leader?
Analysts puzzling over the Russian leader’s intentions say that his troop buildup around Ukraine could be a convincing bluff, but also posit that he could have fundamentally changed during the pandemic.
Vladimir Putin: Crafty Strategist or Aggrieved and Reckless Leader? https://nyti.ms/3LG4wzL
But this is what you choose to believe because you hate liberals.
Who's Best Situated to Figure Out the Truth about COVID?
By J. Deane Waldman, M.D.
Is COVID truly a threat to life on Earth, comparable to bubonic plague? Are school closures and lockdowns really necessary? Will vaccines protect us, and what about side-effects? If this is a "pandemic of the unvaccinated," how are vaccinated people spreading COVID? Boosters? Really?
What is the truth? Why is COVID so confusing?
First, there are ever-changing messages. No mask, yes mask, two masks, avoid cloth masks. Vaccination will stop COVID, except maybe not — we need boosters, several. There is no natural immunity...well, maybe there is, but it won't protect you. Except that real physicians say it will.
No wonder people don't trust Fauci or Biden.
Words are critical when seeking truth. Since the outbreak of COVID, the meaning of common words has been spun and distorted. Positive COVID tests are reported as "cases," implying symptomatic patients. The vast majority of positive tests are people not sick at all.
More than 918,000 Americans are listed as "COVID deaths," even though only 12 percent to 23 percent of COVID deaths were actually due to the virus.
Uncovering truth requires the scientific method. One idea is tested against other opposing ideas. Truth is revealed through mental trial by combat.
Censorship suppresses information unacceptable to the censor. It imposes a single perspective and prevents dissemination of differing ideas. Censorship is mandatory one-idea-fits-all groupthink. Censorship is the enemy of truth.
To advance Washington's COVID "truth," people and ideas are censored by unelected third parties: bureaucrat M.D.s, viz., Fauci and Walensky; agencies like the FDA and OHSA; complicit news media such as the New York Times and the Washington Post; social media like Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube; and search engines, viz., Google.
The reporter
Anton Troianovski is the Moscow bureau chief for The New York Times. He was previously Moscow bureau chief of The Washington Post and spent nine years with The Wall Street Journal in Berlin and New York. @antontroian
He knows more than most about Putin
Blogger Roger Amick said...
But this is what you choose to believe because you hate liberals.
I don't WANT to hate leftists alky. It's just that they fucking BEG me to every fucking day.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/02/whos_best_situated_to_figure_out_the_truth_about_covid.html
Guess who told Ch is full of shit?
John H. Durham,
the Trump-era special counsel scrutinizing the investigation into Russia’s 2016 election interference, distanced himself on Thursday from false reports by right-wing news outlets that a motion he recently filed said Hillary Clinton’s campaign had paid to spy on Trump White House servers.
Citing a barrage of such reports on Fox News and elsewhere based on the prosecutor’s Feb. 11 filing, defense lawyers for a Democratic-linked cybersecurity lawyer, Michael Sussmann, have accused the special counsel of including unnecessary and misleading information in filings “plainly intended to politicize this case, inflame media coverage and taint the jury pool.”
In a filing on Thursday, Mr. Durham defended himself, saying those accusations about his intentions were “simply not true.” He said he had “valid and straightforward reasons” for including the information in the Feb. 11 filing that set off the firestorm, while disavowing responsibility for how certain news outlets had interpreted and portrayed it.
“If third parties or members of the media have overstated, understated or otherwise misinterpreted facts contained in the government’s motion, that does not in any way undermine the valid reasons for the government’s inclusion of this information,”
Oh boy, a hack sporting credentials from not one but TWO asshat factories.
Yay.
Are we supposed to be as impressed as YOU are, alky? Because THAT ain't happening.
I've seen exactly ONE reporter hold the State Dept's feet to the fire on the news they would like us to believe on Ukraine/Russia, and THAT guy was from the AP.
Most important, the coverage about purported spying on the Trump White House was premised on the idea that the White House network data involved came from when Mr. Trump was president. But Mr. Durham’s filing did not say when it was from.
Lawyers for a Georgia Institute of Technology data scientist who helped analyze the Yota data said on Monday that the data came from the Obama presidency. Mr. Sussmann’s lawyers said the same in a filing on Monday night complaining about Mr. Durham’s conduct.
Mr. Durham did not directly address that basic factual dispute. But his explanation for why he included the information about the matter in the earlier filing implicitly confirmed that Mr. Sussmann had conveyed concerns about White House data that came from before Mr. Trump was president.
They were not spying on a sitting President.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/17/us/durham-right-wing-media-trump.html?partner=slack&smid=sl-share
“If third parties or members of the media have overstated, understated or otherwise misinterpreted facts contained in the government’s motion, that does not in any way undermine the valid reasons for the government’s inclusion of this information,”
Precisely, and thank you Mr. Durham.
Reading comprehension FAIL, alky.
I take Durham at the letter of his statement. Period.
It's your team - MSM/DNC steno pool - who intentionally misstated what Durham has said to protect the Queen of the Cackles & Cankles.
And btw alky. An accurate description of "capturing the IP traffic" of President Trump is SPYING. While you sit in your insane asylum with the 5th Beatle, this is what I do for a living.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Most important, the coverage about purported spying on the Trump White House was premised on the idea that the White House network data involved came from when Mr. Trump was president. But Mr. Durham’s filing did not say when it was from.
It said WHERE it was from - The Executive Office of the President of the United States ("EOP").
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21208256-john-durham-sussmann-filing-21122
The Government’s evidence at trial will also establish that among the Internet data Tech Executive-1 and his associates exploited was domain name system (“DNS”) Internet traffic pertaining to (i) a particular healthcare provider, (ii) Trump Tower, (iii) Donald Trump’s Central
Park West apartment building, and (iv) the Executive Office of the President of the United States (“EOP”). (Tech Executive-1’s employer, Internet Company-1, had come to access and maintain dedicated servers for the EOP as part of a sensitive arrangement whereby it provided DNS resolution services to the EOP. Tech Executive-1 and his associates exploited this arrangement by mining the EOP’s DNS traffic and other data for the purpose of gathering derogatory information
about Donald Trump.)
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21208256/john-durham-sussmann-filing-21122.pdf
Read the filing, hack.
Oh, and alky?
I can do this all fucking DAY.
READ THIS CAREFULLY, CH. READ THIS VERY CAREFULLY.
Durham Distances Himself From Furor in Right-Wing Media
February 18, 2022 at 9:13 am EST By Taegan Goddard 22 Comments
“John Durham, the Trump-era special counsel scrutinizing the investigation into Russia’s 2016 election interference, distanced himself on Thursday from FALSE reports by right-wing news outlets that a motion he recently filed said Hillary Clinton’s campaign had paid to spy on Trump White House servers,”
the New York Times reports.
______
IN OTHER WORDS,
FOX NEWS TRIES AND FAILS AT CREATING ANOTHER FALSE CLINTON SCANDAL.
GOT THAT CH?
GOT THAT, ALL YOU TRUMP SLURPER UPPERS?
Nice try, Fox News.
They only discredit themselves yet again.
Durham himself says
It ain't so.
GOT THAT CH?
GOT THAT, ALL YOU TRUMP SLURPER UPPERS?
Fuck off pederast.
GOT THAT PEDERAST?
I posted the Durham filing.
Read it.
GOT THAT PEDERAST?
LOL.
Now excuse me while I slap my knee for a while.
LOLOLOLOL.
rrb says he can parrot false Fox info all day.
For once, I believe him.
(Here come another of his brilliant "f. off pederast" comments.)
Oh wait. He alraeady said that. LOL LOL LOL (REALLY slapping my knee)
already
Now read Durham's disclaimer.
HUGE LOL
Russia Stages Nuclear Drills
February 18, 2022 at 6:53 am EST By Taegan Goddard 62 Comments
“Russia announced massive drills of its nuclear forces Friday amid soaring East-West tensions, as the U.S. issued some of its starkest, most detailed warnings yet about how a Russian invasion of Ukraine might unfold,”
the AP reports.
The Moscow Times reports Putin will personally oversee the drills.
POOR LITTLE FRUSTRATED CHILD POOTY WILL NOW DESPERATELY PLAY WITH HIS TOYS.
BUT THE WORLD AIN'T QUAKING.
Russia Would Face [REALLY] Severe Consequences for Attack
February 18, 2022 at 7:33 am EST By Taegan Goddard 76 Comments
The Economist:
“In recent conversations with The Economist businesspeople, diplomats, economists and government officials in Moscow revealed that they could barely fathom the ruinous consequences a war would bring to Russia—consequences which would go far beyond specific sanctions.
Imports of high-tech desiderata would disappear,
firms would lose their value,
access to much of the rest of the world would become fraught,
any veneer of respectability would be stripped away.”
RATHER SEVERE, ALL THAT!
Atlantic Council:
"Why Putin won’t invade Ukraine."
[You can click on that at politicalwire.com.]
House Panel Seeks to Cancel Trump’s D.C. Hotel Lease
February 18, 2022 at 9:28 am EST By Taegan Goddard 47 Comments
“A House committee urged a federal agency Thursday to consider terminating the lease on a Washington, D.C., hotel held by former President Donald Trump and his business,”
CNBC reports.
“The House Committee on Oversight and Reform cited accounting firm Mazars’ recent announcement that it is dropping the Trump Organization as a client and stating that a decade of the company’s financial statements cannot be relied on as accurate.”
JUST IN:
Trump Using Donations to Rent an Unused Office
February 18, 2022 at 10:00 am EST By Taegan Goddard Leave a Comment
“Former President Donald Trump spent $375,000 raised from his followers for rent at his financially troubled Manhattan skyscraper last year ― even though his political committees have no presence in the building,”
the HuffPost reports.
Said one former Trump aide:
“It’s a huge scam. I can’t believe his base lets him get away with it.”
_____
"Oh, we in his base will let him do anything. After all, he is our Fuerher!"
We on both sides criticize Trump and we criticize Biden.
But there is one word that can accurately be used of Trump that cannot be used of Biden:
DESPICABLE.
rrb abandoned this ship.
It got too rocky for him.
Pedophile and alky etc.
Bidenomics oh oh.
Leading economic indicators. Jan.-0.3%
Blogger Honest, decent, truth telling Reverend said...
rrb abandoned this ship.
It got too rocky for him.
Still here, pederast. Durham's actual filing speaks for itself and stands on it's own.
Atlantic Council
February 16, 2022
Why Putin won’t invade Ukraine
By Harlan Ullman
With alarms sounding much like Paul Revere alerting the colonists in 1775 that the Red Coats were coming, the White House is warning that war in Ukraine is imminent. Should an attack not come, the White House and NATO will deservedly take credit for deterring conflict by taking the strongest possible diplomatic stands and remaining unified throughout this crisis.
However, another reason may have carried greater weight—one that so far has not been properly considered in the West.
Vladimir Putin faces a Ukrainian paradox he cannot resolve by unleashing his army on the former Soviet republic. By conflating three vital Russian national-security interests into four demands, Putin created internal contradictions and conflicts that will make a military intervention in Ukraine as disastrous for Russia as the invasion of Afghanistan was for the Soviet Union.
What does Putin want?
A security framework in Europe favorable to Russia based on pre-1997 conditions, in which NATO agrees to cease all expansion and Ukraine remains well disposed to Moscow. Why, then, did he not say that and thus avoid antagonizing NATO and uniting it in powerful opposition?
Instead, Putin issued unacceptable demands, including a requirement that NATO reposition its forces and weapons systems away from eastern members of the Alliance who joined after 1997. He specified a legally binding, enforceable agreement that NATO will cease its “open door” policy and all further expansion. Putin also demanded that Ukraine never join NATO nor have nuclear weapons stationed on its territory.
Had Putin looked closely at these demands, he would have found them riddled with enough contradictions to delight any confirmed Marxist or Leninist.
The demand for a pre-1997 security framework would significantly affect Russia as well. It had no forces in Ukraine or Georgia at that time. Would it withdraw its forces from those countries now? Kaliningrad, a Russian enclave on the Baltic Sea bordering Poland and Lithuania, would likewise be affected as Iskander and other more modern missile systems would have to go under the terms of Russia’s proposed treaty with NATO.
As for NATO, Putin, trained as a lawyer, knows that no legal agreement will guarantee NATO foregoing expansion. The litany of abrogated US-USSR-Russian Federation treaties drives this home. The Anti-Ballistic Missile, Open Skies, and Intermediate Nuclear Forces treaties are no longer in force. This pursuit of an unenforceable agreement is a contradiction. What is Putin’s solution? Someone should ask.
“John Durham, the Trump-era special counsel scrutinizing the investigation into Russia’s 2016 election interference, distanced himself on Thursday from false reports by right-wing news outlets that a motion he recently filed said Hillary Clinton’s campaign had paid to spy on Trump White House servers,”
You are such a cry baby bitch boy.
"Roger AmickFebruary 18, 2022 at 9:14 AM
Pedophile and alky etc"
A backfiring invasion
In regard to Ukraine, Putin also knows that an armed attack or aggressive use of force will make any chance of his achieving both his priorities even less likely than landing an astronaut on the sun. He also knows that the costs to Russia and to him personally will be high and possibly unaffordable. Sanctions and further isolation will hurt.
Going to war, no matter the scope, or using cyber and influence operations to cripple Ukraine, will absolutely foreclose any chance for even part of Putin’s demands being considered by NATO. The Alliance’s response to a major attack will make the actions it took after Russia’s 2014 Crimean annexation appear anemic. It will expand its military capability and the number of forces stationed in Europe—exactly the opposite of Putin’s intent. NATO members will develop and deploy more advanced weapons, including new classes of missiles with low-yield nuclear warheads.
NATO badly needs a new strategic framework (here, ironically, Putin is right for the wrong reasons). If war breaks out in Ukraine, the Alliance will certainly move to a new framework incorporating some of the actions mentioned above and announce it during the Madrid summit in June—another outcome Putin won’t like one bit.
In an escalation, the West will impose sanctions more strictly and robustly than before. How much this will dent Russia’s economy or Putin’s inner circle is uncertain. But the Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline will almost certainly be cancelled, denting Russia’s energy sector. Whatever credibility Putin may have gained will be lost given the “big lie” of his assurances that force would not be used in Ukraine. Of course, Russia will have accused the West of provoking violence requiring an “appropriate response.”
If a subsequent occupation of Ukraine were required, even of just a portion of the country, body bags could be flowing back to Russia. And what is Putin’s exit strategy? No such plan following a Russian attack is obvious for Moscow other than a prolonged twenty-first century version of the Cold War, but one in which Moscow uses substantial force resulting in even greater isolation. And that could doom Putin’s rule in a way similar to how Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev got fired two years after the October 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.
THAT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST INTELLIGENT AND INFORMED ANALYSES OF THE PRESENT SITUATION REGARDING PUTIN AND RUSSIA.
Meanwhile we have bitch boy comments.
Pedo and Alky are fence sitting on Ukraine.
Too , funny
"Trump Slurpers" James
Tell us what you mean?
and it continues-- Plain, honest resoning--
An advantageous stalemate
The billion-ruble question is: How does this crisis end? Speculation over invasion scenarios has ranged from a massive, overwhelming air, sea, and land assault
to a mix of cyber, special-forces, and influence-based non-kinetic operations.
Should Putin not grasp the predicament he has imposed on himself, a limited move in the Donbas or seizing a land bridge into Crimea would seem to be the lowest-risk and lowest-cost option. He could then judge how NATO chooses to respond and wait. But Putin would almost certainly suffer the same consequences as if he took Kyiv and occupied much of the country.
Assuming there is no military action, Putin has two choices.
First, he can prolong the crisis and maintain the buildup on the Ukrainian border. That would be expensive and wear down his forces. Staying on constant alert takes a toll on people and pocketbooks.
Or Putin could terminate the exercise with Belarus on February 20 as scheduled, draw his troops back from the Ukrainian border, claim victory, and continue to push for negotiations—arguing that as the West wrongly predicted an attack, it continues to fail to recognize Russian security interests and needs.
Russia will no doubt continue political and psychological pressure on Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to make concessions, either to accept the Minsk 2 agreement (despite its grant of semi-autonomy to the Donbas) or to suspend any request for NATO membership. And Russian “active measures,” such as disinformation campaigns, will continue to target Ukraine with the aim of eroding Zelenskyy’s standing and NATO solidarity by claiming “hysteria” over an invasion that never occurred.
This scenario suits Putin’s interests far better than an uncertain military adventure, which is why he will choose it—and not because of anything uttered from a White House podium, no matter how much credit the administration will take for deterring a war.
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Harlan Ullman is an Atlantic Council senior advisor and UPI’s Arnaud deBorchgrave Distinguished Columnist. His latest book is The Fifth Horseman and the New MAD: How Massive Attacks of Disruption Became the Looming Danger to a Divided Nature and the World at Large.
Can you please post this several dozen more times, alky?
In bold please.
Thanks alky.
Tell us what you mean.
___
Just look in a mirror.
Trump Slurpers" James
Tell us what you mean?
Ch, I'm sure you will apprediate that informative article and maybe even learn something from it.
--But that is probably too much to hope for.
Calling James on the carpet for his cursing and vulgarities.
rrb said:
"Durham's actual filing speaks for itself and stands on it's own."
Nope. How about his disclaimer?
Meanwhile, "it's" can only mean "it is" or "it has."
examples:
It's good to see you. (it is)
It's been a long time. (it has)
You are quite welcome.
Thanks, James.
Blogger KansasDemocrat said...
Calling James on the carpet for his cursing and vulgarities.
GO FUCK YOUR SELF KU ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!
Roger posted that Putin invation.
"By Friday morning"
Always wrong Roger strikes again.
Denny , James and Roger said we are Producing more oil then we use.
Take that issue up with them.
Roger, will you call out your boi James for his name calling.
"ALL YOU TRUMP SLURPER" Jamie
appreciate
Ignore K Dem.
That KILLS him. :-)
Nope. How about his disclaimer?
His "disclaimer" is not in conflict with his filing, pederast. And his disclaimer was published in reaction to erroneous leftist MSM/DNC steno pool reports.
NEXT!
Biden Gathers Western Allies
February 18, 2022 at 10:46 am EST By Taegan Goddard Leave a Comment
“President Biden will hold talks with other Western leaders Friday about the Ukraine crisis, as 11th-hour efforts to prevent a Russian attack continue against the grim backdrop of widespread shelling in eastern Ukraine and Moscow’s continued troop buildup at the border,”
the Washington Post reports.
“The fear of an imminent assault rose Friday when the Russian-backed leader of a separatist-controlled area of eastern Ukraine said officials there were launching a mass evacuation of civilians into neighboring Russia, citing the threat of military action by Ukrainian troops.”
New York Times:
“The United States said on Friday that Russia had likely amassed as many as 190,000 troops near the borders of Ukraine and inside the separatist regions in the country’s east, significantly raising its estimate of Moscow’s troop buildup as the Biden administration tries to persuade the world of the imminent threat of an invasion.”
The Guardian:
The crisis that brought the west together.
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Thank you, Mr. Putin.
How nice of you to do that.
Jamie you and your buddy Rig like to CUT n paste , but, debate, well we know why you two can't.
The three Socialist Democrats if CHT. Called Bidenomics "the best economy ever"
Bidenomics oh oh.
Leading economic indicators. Jan.-0.3%
And the goat fucker posts nothing but gibberish and GOP talking points......BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
NEXT!
OKAY:
YOU SAY:
'His "disclaimer" is not in conflict with his filing.'
I AGREE. IT IS NOT IN CONFLICT.
And his disclaimer was published in reaction to erroneous leftist MSM/DNC steno pool reports.
NO, HIS DISCLAIMER WAS ISSUED IN REACTION TO FALSE FOX LIES ABOUT HIS FILING.
You should just IGNORE K DEM.
He really HATES that.
k DEM has orgasms when he gets any attention at all here.
When I call Jamie in the carpet over his economic nonsense he whines.
Bidenomics oh oh.
Leading economic indicators. Jan.-0.3%
What kind of sick boi dreams and posts about male orgasms?
A: PEDO
Remember when the Three Socialist Stooges of CHT CHEERED BIDENOMICS stock market?
34,123.61 −188.42 (0.55%) today
Year to date ; -6.73%
rrb couldn't refute 10:03. :-)
Amazon blocks BLM accounts.
As the Biden successes keep piling up--
Ron Klain Pumps Up Senate Democrats
February 18, 2022 at 10:30 am EST By Taegan Goddard 18 Comments
“White House chief of staff Ron Klain promised Senate Democrats that President Biden will deliver an uplifting and inspiring State of the Union address that will highlight his efforts to fight the COVID-19 pandemic and respond to rising costs,” The Hill reports.
And the goat fucker came all over himself because the joy he gets with a lowering leading indicator .....talk about sick assholes......BWAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! I wonder if his retarded spawn know what a failure he really is....still unemployed and bitching like a stuck pig.....LOLOL
PPI up 9.5 %.
Those costs will be passed on to the end users.
Systemic Inflation another Success of steaming piles of dung.
The amendment, which Connecticut residents will vote on this November, would allow the state legislature to pass a law to institute in-person early voting. Connecticut is currently one of only six states that don’t allow early voting either in-person or via mail-in ballot, and absentee voting is strictly limited to people who are physically unable to vote on Election Day either due to disability or absence from their city.
“There’s this feeling that a constitution is sacrosanct and should not be amended, despite the fact that the voting provisions have, in fact, been amended in our constitution many times, going as far back as the Civil War,” said state Rep. Stephanie Thomas, who represents a slice of Fairfield County.
To Thomas, a prominent supporter of the amendment, the restrictions are a major barrier to access to the ballot box, whether someone is infirm, overworked or are otherwise waylaid on Election Day. She listed off the various structural barriers that prevent many Connecticut residents from voting on the day of an election, from caregivers who wake up with a sick child to commuters stuck on the evening train back from the city.
Thomas, who participated in public hearings where voters spoke out on the issue, cited a personal favorite story from testimony involving a recent transplant from Texas who attempted to vote early only to be told that Connecticut, unlike Texas, didn’t have it.
“They were flabbergasted,” Thomas said. “She said, ‘I could not believe that something that we enjoy in Texas and have enjoyed for quite some time is against the law here in Connecticut.’”
One of the original 13 is guaranteeing the right to choose our leaders.
Jamie you boi Fatty joined you in thinking of other males orgasms.
Roger posted that Putin invation.
"By Friday morning"
Always wrong Roger strikes again.
I forwarded it to Scott
On behalf of my father, I am officially inviting YOU to be his VIP dinner guest in NEW ORLEANS.
If you are the lucky winner:
We’ll cover your flight
We’ll cover your very nice hotel
We’ll cover your dinner
You’ll get to MEET my father
AND you’ll get to take a picture with the President.
It is a mistake even to mention KDem.
He DIES for attention. He considers himself successful anytime anyone even bothers to mention him.
It KILLS him for his tripe to just be ignored.
Durham added: “If third parties or members of the media have overstated, understated, or otherwise misinterpreted facts contained in the Government’s Motion, that does not in any way undermine the valid reasons for the Government’s inclusion of this information.”
“In light of the above, there is no basis to strike any portion of the Government’s Motion,” Durham wrote, adding that the government intends to file motions in which it will “further discuss these and other pertinent facts to explain why they constitute relevant and admissible evidence at trial.”
I think Durham is doing exactly what I am doing.
Separating himself and his actual filing from any misrepresentation that has been used by either side. What FOX news says or what MSNBC says Fox news said is completely irrelevant to the filing.
Hint: If your argument here involves Trump, FOX news, or any mention of any media. If you bring up spying or anything such as that.
Your argument has zero to do with Durham's filing.
It should not even be considered an argument about Durham's filing.
It should be considered a case study in red herring and strawman logical fallacies.
I promise you that not one person here will be able to look at Durham's "actual" filing and prove that any of what is in there is untrue. They simply are repeating political rhetoric.
NO, HIS DISCLAIMER WAS ISSUED IN REACTION TO FALSE FOX LIES ABOUT HIS FILING.
A lie in and of itself. Durham's disclaimer was not an exclusive response to Fox News.
THIS IS A LIE.
Now fuck off, pederast.
Semantic gymnastics don't work with me.
Calm down, rrb. Of course Durham's clarification was not an EXCLUSIVE reply to Fox. But it WAS an attempt to set the record straight.
Notice how clever rrb thinks he is to insert the word exclusive.
(Semantic gymnastics.)
Now bug off,
republican rat bastard.
Yes, that's what he actually calls himself, lol.
Durham added: “If third parties or members of the media have overstated, understated, or otherwise misinterpreted facts contained in the Government’s Motion, that does not in any way undermine the valid reasons for the Government’s inclusion of this information.”b
Third parties, members of the media, overstating, understating...
He is just pointing that anyone saying anything about Trump, Fox news, spying, or any of that nonsense is simply not addressing his filing. That his filings stands on it's own and that he believes it will withstand any judicial oversight.
He is not responsible for what anyone else says.
Just that so many people are not smart enough to understand this.
I have read it. And I came to the conclusion that you are full of shit.
She didn't spy on President Trump, or otherwise I would agree with you Scott.
But you posted that the MSM have TDS. That is political bias against liberals and even Republicans who don't love Trump
Durham's investigation found nothing but information gathered during the Obama administration.
Of course Durham's clarification was not an EXCLUSIVE reply to Fox. But it WAS an attempt to set the record straight.
Notice how clever rrb thinks he is to insert the word exclusive.
(Semantic gymnastics.)
After you posted THIS, pederast?
NO, HIS DISCLAIMER WAS ISSUED IN REACTION TO FALSE FOX LIES ABOUT HIS FILING.
Nice try pederast.
Here's a challenge for Ch. Go to the long article I started quoting at 9:21 above and continued in boldface later, and tell me anything it says or anything I have said about the Ukraine situation that is not true.
Bet you can't.
He is a smart lawyer who said he believes it will withstand any judicial oversight.
Because it is so hard to make a case, he showed integrity.
The more I read the more I was impressed!
Of course Durhams's clarification was intended, among other things, to set straight all the media uproar caused by Fox FAKE NEWS interpretaion of it, but not necessarily EXCLUSIVELY to do that.
All the semantic manipulation in the world will not change that. LOL.
She didn't spy on President Trump
Durham didn't say she did.
Durham said this -
The Government’s evidence at trial will also establish that among the Internet data Tech Executive-1 and his associates exploited was domain name system (“DNS”) Internet traffic pertaining to (i) a particular healthcare provider, (ii) Trump Tower, (iii) Donald Trump’s Central
Park West apartment building, and (iv) the Executive Office of the President of the United States (“EOP”).
In order to "exploit" internet traffic one must intercept internet traffic, alky.
Durham's investigation found nothing but information gathered during the Obama administration.
WRONG.
She (her minions) also "exploited internet traffic" from the Executive Office of the President of the United States (“EOP”).
Shall we continue alky? I told you I have all day.
LOL.
Of course Durhams's clarification was intended, among other things, to set straight all the media uproar caused by Fox FAKE NEWS interpretaion of it, but not necessarily EXCLUSIVELY to do that.
All the semantic manipulation in the world will not change that. LOL.
Yet you took great pains to only mention FOX NEWS at the exclusion of all other outlets, pederast.
Curious, that.
And it's 'interpretation.'
Not 'interpretaion' whatever the fuck THAT is.
It won't bring him back but Justice was served.
Former Brooklyn Center police officer Kim Potter has been sentenced to two years in prison for fatally shooting 20-year-old Daunte Wright during a traffic stop last year.
The big picture: The sentence, which follows a jury's December conviction of Potter for first- and second-degree manslaughter, is 24 months under "the custody of the commissioner of corrections."
The judge ruled that Potter "shall serve two-thirds of that time or 16 months in prison and a third of supervised release."Following the sentencing, the judge said: "To those who disagree and feel a longer prison sentence is appropriate, as difficult as it may be, please try to empathize with Miss Potter’s situation."
Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison had asked Hennepin County Judge Regina Chu to impose a sentence of 86 months, or seven years and two months.
Potter's attorney argued that an 86-month sentence was too much "for someone like her," referring to Potter and adding that she had no prior criminal record.
Chu, who said this was one of the "saddest cases" she has presided over, ultimately said that Potter "did not abuse her position of authority."
"There is no question that is Potter is extremely remorseful," Chu said. "It is also beyond dispute that she is particularly amenable to probation."She said that Potter "does not present a danger of future crimes," adding that the former officer "does not require rehabilitation to become a law-abiding citizen.""This is not a cop found guilty of murder for using his knee to pin down a person for nine and a half minutes as he gasped for air," Chu said, comparing Wright's shooting with George Floyd's murder.
Context: Potter and another officer pulled over Wright, who was Black, in Brooklyn Center on April 11 for a hanging air freshener and expired tags, according to an amended criminal complaint.
Potter, who is white, shot and killed Wright while attempting to take him into custody over a separate, active arrest warrant discovered during the stop.Potter's attorney argued the veteran officer inadvertently pulled out her gun instead of a Taser after Wright tried to flee the encounter.
What they're saying: "Let me tell you what you've stolen from us," said Katie Ann Wright, Daunte Wright's mother, adding that she was speaking directly to Potter.
"You took his future ... She took my baby boy with a single gunshot through his heart, and shattered mine," she said. "My shattered heart has been on display for almost a year now, and I have to live in this nightmare, watching my son shot and killed over and over again.""Your honor, I'm asking you to hold the defendant to the highest accountability," she said. "I can't give the defendant sympathy ... How do you show remorse when you're smiling in your mugshot after being sentenced for manslaughter? After taking my son's life?"
Aubrey Wright, Daunte Wright's father, said, "Daunte's life was cut short by Kim Potter."
"She also damaged my whole family's heart. Nothing will ever be the same. Everything we do as a family ends in tears because all we have is memories left of our son," he added."My son Daunte's life was taken away way too soon and he's never coming back."
Potter took the stand during the sentencing hearing, telling Wright's family that she was "devastated for all of you."
She spoke directly to Wright's mother: "I understand a mother’s love and I am sorry I broke your heart.""I do pray that one day, you can find forgiveness, only because hatred is so destructive to all of us."
Potter's attorney argued that the case was overcharged, saying that she should not have been convicted for first-degree manslaughter because she did not have a criminal record at the time of Wright's killing.
Flashback: The shooting, which came during the Derek Chauvin murder trial, sparked days of protests in the Minneapolis suburb.
It also led city leaders to pledge significant public safety reforms, including changes to traffic stop policies.
I have read it. And I came to the conclusion that you are full of shit.
She didn't spy on President Trump
If you "actually" had read his filing (which we all know you haven't) then you would understand that Durham never uttered the term "spying" in the whole thing.
So how can you "debunk" a claim that neither Durham or myself has made?
If you "actually" had read his filing (which we all know you haven't) then you would understand that Durham never uttered the term "spying" in the whole thing.
So how can you "debunk" a claim that neither Durham or myself has made?
That's our alky. Sharp as a fucking billiard ball.
Hey alky - if I was "exploiting" your personal internet traffic at "Looney Tunes Nursing Home," I'd be intercepting it; your web activity, Twitter, Facebook, email, etc.
I would be in fact - SPYING ON YOU.
Got it?
LOL.
On every issue you always find your self backing yourself into a corner of your own making, splitting semantic hairs.
When you're left with only that you've lost the debate.
Here's a challenge for Ch. Go to the long article I started quoting at 9:21 above and continued in boldface later, and tell me anything it says or anything I have said about the Ukraine situation that is not true.
Bet you can't.
Well first of all, you didn't say anything about the situation. As you stated, you were cutting and pasting from Harlan Ullman who is providing his best educated opinion on what Putin is attempting to do.
With all due respect to Ullman (who might know more than most) he is not Putin, he certainly isn't smarter than Putin about Soviet foreign policy, and does not have the expertise or experience in that area of the world. In fact nobody else comes even remotely close to Putin's expertise and experience in that area.
So what I read from him is somewhat wishful opining about how Putin is being outsmarted here. Others opine that Putin has already winning, is likely going to get what he sought and that the best NATO will do is work to save face.
So who is "wrong" and who is "right" is not a matter of fact that can be proven or disproven right now. It's currently just a matter of opinion as to how things are going and where they end up.
I don't believe Putin wants to invade. But I also believe Putin will invade to garner leverage if it comes to it. It doesn't have to be an Afghanistan occupation, he just needs to go in, get what he wants, and then leave. But Putin will avoid it if he can and if NATO and the US let him.
It did not say that Russiagate happened.
Fox etc. Said it did.
rrb wants to lynch her and Obama.
rrb wants to lynch her and Obama.
Alky, I've already accepted the fact that the LAW only applies to the enemies of democrats.
It's terribly wrong, but that's the way it is.
Should Hillary die in prison? Sure. But the law does not apply to her.
It's a moot point drunkard.
I don't think that we should let it happen like you said
But Putin will avoid it if he can and if NATO and the US let him. President Biden has made it clear that he will pay a huge penalty on the economy of Russia.
I wonder if we are talking to the oligarchs behind closed doors!
Biden's experience with this situation is why I support Sleepy Joe Biden.
Roger posted that Putin invation.
"By Friday morning"
Always wrong Roger strikes again.
Why I think the GOP and you slurpers are the scum of the earth.....win any way you can.....lie, cheat.....change laws to protect your vested interest in trump......WHat a group of scum buckets!!!!
Former President Donald Trump and his allies have been privately lobbying Wyoming lawmakers to change the state’s election laws as part of an effort to unseat Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.).
On Thursday, Trump endorsed Wyoming legislation that would prevent crossover voting in a primary election. Were the law to pass, Democrats, Republicans, or independents would no longer be able to switch party affiliation on the day of the state’s primary to vote for a candidate in another party.
Roger said stocks would SOAR in 2022.
Wrong again.
34,044.50 −267.53 (0.78%)today
34,044.50 -2,540.56 (-6.94%)year to date
A former Treasury Department official who served in the Obama administration on Thursday shot back at President Biden's stated reasons for the extreme rise in inflation in an op-ed published in The New York Times.
Steven Rattner, who served as counselor to the Treasury secretary, wrote in an op-ed for the Times that Biden was mischaracterizing the cause of the extreme inflation the U.S. is currently experiencing
When interviewing Biden last week, NBC News anchor Lester Holt pressed the president on the ongoing rise in inflation, noting that he had said last year that the heightened inflation would be temporary. This line of questioning appeared to vex Biden somewhat as he responded by calling Holt a "wise guy."
"The reason for the inflation is the supply chains were cut off, meaning that the products, for example, automobiles - the lack of computer chips to be able to build those automobiles so they could function; they need those computer chips. They were not available," Biden said.
Bidenomics have failed Americans.
"The economy abruptly and unexpectedly slowed down in January, an economic index that measures U.S. business cycles indicated on Friday.
The Leading Economic index fell 0.3 percent to 119.6 in January on month, according to data from The Conference Board released Friday. This was the first decline in almost a year."
Yes goat fucker applauds the economy slowing down....What he failed to post was the source or that they expected the slow down to affect the GDP which they still expect to show 2% growth in spite of trumps flu.....
Blogger KansasDemocrat said...
Roger said stocks would SOAR in 2022.
YOU DUMB FUCKING ASSHOLE....GET BACK TO US IN DECEMBER 1 MONTH IS 11 SHORT A YEAR......BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!
The Daily Beast.
It's possible a false alarm.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/russias-false-flag-operations-are-coming-into-play-with-car-bombs-chemical-attack-claims-and-evacuation?ref=scroll
Alky fence sitting again.
"Grow @ 2%"
Ok, cool.
ll:34 Well, that was a pretty poor "rebuttal" of the excellent article.
Sounds like you mostly found him convincing, and agree with him. Thanks.
Except I think you are wrong in your opinion that Putin will get what he wants and NATO will have to work to save face.
No, Putin is losing face -- face that it will be difficult for him to ever to recover.
difficult for him ever to recover
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