In order of high priority:
- Inflation 82%
- Economy 80%
- Crime 58%
- Gun policy 57%
- Immigration 45%
- Abortion 42%
- Russia/Ukraine 38%
- Climate Change 38%
- Covid 37%
- Jan 6th 33%
In order of high plus medium:
- Economy 98%
- Inflation 97%
- Crime 92%
- Immigration 84%
- Russia/Ukraine 82%
- Gun Policy 80%
- Abortion 77%
- Covid 75%
- Climate Change 66%
- Jan 6th 60%
There is little here folks that suggests anything other than the left is out of touch with what the American public wants addressed. They have full control over the Government (minus the courts) and they have concentrated much of their efforts on Jan 6th, trying to spend trillions on climate change proposals, locking us down over Covid, having a bloody conniption over Dobbs, and demanding we ban more and more guns.
The top two issues (and it really isn't close) are both economically related. Two of the next three are crime and immigration. These are literally the four biggest talking points for the GOP. This is a huge indication as to why November is likely to bring about a serious GOP wave.
Let's be clear...
The easiest sale to make is when the customer comes to you looking for what you are selling. The hardest sale to make is the one where you are trying to convince someone that you have what they want (even if they don't know it).
The public is walking into the mall shopping for economic solutions, inflation solutions, crime solutions, and immigration solutions... all in brick and mortar stores where the sales team are members of the GOP. Meanwhile you have the pushy get in your face kiosk workers (all Democrats) trying to get you to stop and look at their Jan 6th decorative bad orange man calendars, the $50 Climate change sponsored phone case, or the abortion perfume with a bonus travel case.
The public is walking into the mall shopping for economic solutions, inflation solutions, crime solutions, and immigration solutions... all in brick and mortar stores where the sales team are members of the GOP. Meanwhile you have the pushy get in your face kiosk workers (all Democrats) trying to get you to stop and look at their Jan 6th decorative bad orange man calendars, the $50 Climate change sponsored phone case, or the abortion perfume with a bonus travel case.
Unfortunately because the economy sucks, these American shoppers can only buy one or two things and they don't really "need" a bad orange man calendar or a climate change phone case. So they will walk on past and talk to the GOP about their solutions to the problems they want solved. I will give you one guess who makes money and who is out of the mall shortly after the holidays.
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Liz Cheney receives standing ovation at Reagan Library after blasting GOP leaders
Bob Brigham
June 29, 2022
GOP Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming received a warm welcome while speaking as part of the "A Time for Choosing" speakers series held by the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation.
"I know at this moment we are confronting a domestic threat we have never faced before and that is a former president who is attempting to unravel the foundations of our constitutional republic and he is aided by Republican leaders and elected officials who have made themselves willing hostages to this dangerous and irrational man," she said.
"Some in my party are embracing former President Trump and even after all we have seen, they are enabling his lies. Many urge we do not confront Donald Trump, that we look away, and that is certainly the easier path. One need only look at the threats facing the witnesses who have come before the Jan. 6 committee to understand the nature and magnitude of that threat, but to argue the threat posed by Donald Trump can be ignored is to cast aside the responsibility that every citizen, everyone must not do that, and we cannot do that."
"As the full picture is coming into view with the Jan.6 committee, it has become clear that the efforts Donald Trump oversaw and engaged in were even more chilling and more threatening than we could have imagined," Cheney said. "As we have shown, Donald Trump attempted to overturn the presidential election and attempted to stay in office and prevent the peaceful transfer of power. He summoned the mob to Washington, he knew they were armed on Jan. 6, he knew they were angry and he directed the violent mob to march on the Capitol in order to delay or prevent the counting of votes."
She addressed the choice facing the GOP.
"The reality we face today as Republicans, as we think about the choice in front of us, we have to choose, because Republicans cannot be loyal to both Donald Trump and to the Constitution at this moment," she said to applause.
"We must not elect people who are more loyal to themselves or to power than they are to our Constitution," she said, to more applause.
After praising Cassidy Hutchinson, Cheney trotted out what sounded like a 2024 campaign line.
"And I want to speak to every young girl watching tonight: the power is yours and so is the responsibility. In our great nation, one individual can make all the difference and each individual must try. There are no bystanders in a constitutional republic and let me say this to the little girls and young women watching tonight, these days, for the most part, men are running the world, and it is really not going that well," she said to cheers and applause.
Cheney was greeted warmly by the audience, which gave an extended standing ovation upon her entrance.
Said Cheney: “We are confronting a domestic threat that we have never faced before — and that is a former President who is attempting to unravel the foundations of our constitutional Republic.”
“And he is aided by Republican leaders and elected officials who have made themselves willing hostages to this dangerous and irrational man.”
The Republican Party must choose between Trump and the Constitution.
She quoted Reagan:
“No party and no people and no nation can defend and perpetuate a constitutional republic if they accept a leader who’s gone to war with the rule of law, with the democratic process, or with the peaceful transition of power, with the Constitution itself.”
Cheney gives a speech is Simi Valley, CA and gets a big ovation. Go figure.
She's not getting those in Wyoming.
Anonymous Myballsinthewoodsagain said...
Cheney gives a speech is Simi Valley, CA and gets a big ovation. Go figure.
The Cheney legacy will be that of a shit stain skid mark on the fabric of America, with only Josef Stalin smiling in approval.
Good morning.
The House select committee investigating the January 6 Capitol attack issued a subpoena on Wednesday to the former Trump White House counsel Pat Cipollone, compelling him to testify about at least three parts of Donald Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election results.
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The subpoena marked a dramatic escalation for the panel and showed its resolve in seeking to obtain inside information about how the former president sought to return himself to office from the unique perspective of the White House counsel’s office.
“Mr Cipollone repeatedly raised legal and other concerns about President Trump’s activities on January 6 and in the days that preceded,” the chairman of the select committee, Bennie Thompson, said in a statement accompanying the subpoena.
“The committee needs to hear from him on the record, as other former White House counsels have done in other congressional investigations. Concerns Mr Cipollone has about the prerogatives of the office he previously held are clearly outweighed by the need for his testimony.”
What information does Cipollone have? Cipollone was a key witness to some of Trump’s most brazen schemes to overturn the 2020 election results and has information about Trump’s push to send fake slates of electors to Congress, the subpoena letter said.
What has Cipollone said about the subpoena? His spokesperson did not respond to requests for comment about whether he would comply with the subpoena or litigate.
Mick Mulvaney Says Trump Should Be Worried
June 30, 2022 at 4:11 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 6 Comments
Former White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney writes in USA Today:
“Even if Donald Trump were as innocent as the virgin snow that Jan. 6, even if he didn’t know about the guns, or didn’t assault his agent, or had absolutely no clue what the Proud Boys were up to if he obstructed justice related to the Jan. 6 hearings, then he could well become just the next politician to learn the hard lesson that it usually isn’t the crime. It’s the cover-up.”
Conservative Newspaper Declares Trump Unfit
June 30, 2022 at 4:10 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 12 Comments
An editorial in the conservative Washington Examiner declares that former President Donald Trump is a “disgrace” who is “unfit to be anywhere near power ever again.”
Meanwhile, the National Review looked at Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony, writing that that Trump “willfully exacerbated the problem” on January 6 and that “things will not be the same after this.”
Daily Beast: Is conservative media breaking up with ex-lover Trump?
Cassidy Hutchinson: The ex-Trump footsoldier with a 'smoking gun'
Agence France-Presse
June 30, 2022
Her name evokes an outlaw in the American Old West, and Cassidy Hutchinson did not disappoint as the young gunslinger gave it to Donald Trump with both barrels.
Once an ardently loyal footsoldier in the former commander-in-chief's posse, Hutchinson turned sheriff Tuesday as she fired off a volley of allegations without historical parallel against an American president.
In a blockbuster appearance before the House committee investigating last year's attack on the US Capitol, the top former White House aide delivered what opponents hope will be the evidence needed to run Trump out of town.
"This is the smoking gun," Sol Wisenberg, a former deputy to Bill Clinton impeachment investigator Ken Starr, told The New York Times of Hutchinson's testimony.
"There isn't any question this establishes a prima facie case for his criminal culpability on seditious conspiracy charges."
There may have been no "wanted" poster for Trump but Hutchinson painted her own portrait -- of an unhinged president unable to cope with defeat, bidding at any cost to halt the peaceful transfer of power.
Crucially, she offered what critics of the investigation say has so far been lacking -- testimony that Trump not only knew his election fraud claims were false but that he was aware of the potential violence they would cause, and encouraged it.
An erratic leader who often overturned tableware in fits of rage, Trump demanded to be driven to the Capitol to be with the insurrectionist mob after the violence had already broken out, assaulting his Secret Service detail when the order was refused, according to a second-hand anecdote Hutchinson relayed
The Cheney legacy will be that of one of the few Republican leaders who fully recognized the evil of Trumpism for what it is and acted against it with courage.
Cassidy Hutchinson becomes a hero just by telling the simple truth about what really went on.
January 6 Committee Subpoenas Pat Cipollone
June 30, 2022 at 2:18 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 19 Comments
“The House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection issued a subpoena Wednesday evening to former White House counsel Pat Cipollone after blockbuster testimony from a former aide identified the lawyer as having firsthand knowledge of potential criminal activity in the Trump White House,” the Washington Post reports.
“The decision followed extensive negotiations between Cipollone and the committee, as well as sharply escalating pressure on him in recent days to come forward and testify.”
Associated Press:
>b>“Cipollone is said to have stridently and repeatedly warned the former president and his allies against their efforts to challenge the election, at one point threatening to resign as Trump eyed a dramatic reshuffling atop the Justice Department.”
TAEGAN GODDARD'S OPINION:
It’s almost certain that Cipollone’s testimony could put people in prison.
Nearly Half Say Trump Should Be Charged
June 30, 2022 at 3:52 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 11 Comments
A new AP-NORC poll finds that 48% of U.S. adults say Donald Trump should be charged with a crime for his role in the January 6 Capitol attack, while 31% say he should not be charged. An additional 20% say they don’t know enough to have an opinion.
Fifty-eight percent say Trump bears a great deal or quite a bit of responsibility for what happened that day.
Ex-Prosecutors Say Trump Has Criminal Exposure
June 30, 2022 at 2:41 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 14 Comments
“Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony before the House select committee this week increased the criminal exposure former President Donald Trump faces in the Justice Department’s ongoing January 6, 2021, investigation,” CNN reports.
Said Ty Cobb, who represented Trump during Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation:
“Here there are many damning facts… If that isn’t insurrection, I don’t know what is.”
Liz Cheney Calls Trump a ‘Domestic Threat’
June 30, 2022 at 2:33 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 20 Comments
“Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) delivered a searing rebuke of former President Donald Trump and GOP leaders at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library Wednesday night,” CNN reports.
Said Cheney: “We are confronting a domestic threat that we have never faced before — and that is a former President who is attempting to unravel the foundations of our constitutional Republic.”
She added: “And he is aided by Republican leaders and elected officials who have made themselves willing hostages to this dangerous and irrational man.”
Los Angeles Times: Republican Party must choose between Trump and the Constitution, Liz Cheney says in California speech.
'We should pull out of NATO': Marjorie Taylor Greene says it's time to let Putin win
Brad Reed
June 30, 2022
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) on Thursday threw her support toward letting Russian President Vladimir Putin win by pulling the United States out of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
Writing on Twitter, Greene slammed the Biden administration for continuing to supply Ukraine with the weapons it says it needs to repel the Russian military invasion that began back in February.
"The American people do not want war with Russia, but NATO and our own foolish leaders are dragging us into one," Greene wrote. "A war that no one will win. Escalation over Ukraine, a non-member nation, risking nuclear war is a power play endangering the entire world. We should pull out of NATO."
In reality, both the Biden administration and NATO have ruled out getting directly militarily involved in Ukraine, even though many member nations are shipping the country weapons that it's using to fight the Russians.
What's more, this week has seen a significant strengthening of the NATO alliance as the organization said it would admit both Sweden and Finland, two key nations in the Baltic Sea that have long resisted joining out of fear of antagonizing the Kremlin.
AMERICANS MUST NEVER FORGET THAT
Republicans Let Trump Get Away With It
June 30, 2022 at 4:07 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 13 Comments
Adam Serwer:
“During former President Donald Trump’s second impeachment, even when Republicans insisted that the assault on the Capitol was an unfortunate consequence of heated rhetoric, most did not attempt to defend Trump’s conduct on the merits. Instead, they relied on the absurd technicality that the president was no longer in office, and therefore could not be convicted…
“I do not recall these excuses simply to point out how pathetic they seem in hindsight, given the gravity of the allegations and the clarity we now have about Trump’s conduct. I raise them because the thinness of the Republican rationales for acquittal is strong evidence that any justification, no matter how strained, would have sufficed, and yesterday’s revelations are unlikely to change the minds of many Republican legislators now. It is nevertheless crucial to establish for posterity what happened and why.”
MORE THAN THAT, HE MUST BE PROSECUTED AND FOUND GUILTY OF WHAT HE DID.
LOL.
J6 ranks at the very fucking BOTTOM of what the vast majority of Americans care about, yet the two geriatric fucktards bitterly cling to it like a leaky life raft.
Such is the life of a Stage IV TDS patient.
Fortunately for the general public, one of them is locked down in a psychiatric hospital.
November is COMING...
The January 6 Committee unveiled its surprise star witness on Tuesday — Cassidy Hutchinson, a former aide to then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows — yet committee member Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD) admitted that her testimony was only hearsay.
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While told vividly, the story seemed to lack any hard evidence and was only a second-hand account. CNN’s Jake Tapper pressed Raskin on that point Tuesday evening and asked for any subsequent corroboration from previous testimony.
“She did not see it happen,” Tapper said to Raskin Tuesday evening. “Do you have any corroborating evidence? You have interviewed both Ornato, or the committee has interviewed both Engle and Ornato, two Secret Service agents. Do you have any corroborating evidence that that story is true or do you only have it from Cassidy Hutchinson?”
Raskin could not provide any solid proof besides implying that it sounded true.
“Well, um, the story that she told is the evidence that I’m aware of, at least within her story, and I’ve not seen anything to contradict it,” Raskin answered. “And then, of course, it’s corroborated by everything else we know about Donald Trump’s eagerness to not just incite this march and assemble the march and form the march and exhort the people in the march but also to participate in it, he wanted to go into it.”
Raskin then recounted how Hutchinson testified that White House counsel told her not to let Trump enter the rally at the Capitol for various legal and safety reasons.
Tapper pressed forward, asking again if Raskin had any evidence.
“What I’m saying is, your committee interviewed Tony Ornato and [Robert] Engel, who supposedly told her this story, and I don’t doubt her. I’m sure Ornato told her the story but your committee interviewed them. Did you ask about this story?” Tapper asked. “It is a shocking story.”
“I was not involved in either of those interviews. So I can’t say and I don’t have any knowledge of that. I will just say I’m not aware of anything that contradicts the account,” Raskin responded.
Raskin added that he would encourage any other material witness to come forward with information that could prove or disprove Hutchinson’s testimony.
Tapper again lamented the fact that there was no actual evidence of her claims.
“It is just an incredibly damning and dramatic story. I would just, as a journalist and as an American, appreciate more corroboration for the story, since as of now, it is hearsay,” Tapper said before Raskin interjected, “Oh, sure.”
“And of course, we’re not in a court of law and we’re not charging anybody with any particular offense,” Raskin continued. “Our job under House Resolution 503 is to assemble the most meticulous and comprehensive account of the details of that day that we can as well as the causes of these events, as well as making recommendations as to how to fortify democratic institutions against coups, and insurrections and political violence or attacks on our election. So that’s what we’re working on.”
https://www.dailywire.com/news/january-6-committee-member-admits-star-witness-evidence-is-hearsay-no-corroborating-evidence
Not even a dead cat bounce
AP Photo/Patrick Semansky
Remember after the draft majority opinion of Dobbs was leaked, when some people predicted the ruling would help Democrats in November? Those were good times. Unfortunately for them, polls at the time showed that it had virtually no impact. Oops. Oh well.
Nevertheless, now that the final opinion has been released, the same voices are once again predicting that the Dobbs decision will change the trajectory of the 2022 midterm elections.
Well, they’re about to be disappointed. Again. According to a new YouGov/Economist poll conducted after the Dobbs decision was released, 45% of voters say they’d vote for their Republican congressional candidate, compared to 40% who will vote for their Democrat candidate.
Oh, and just like last time, the GOP’s standing improved over the previous generic poll.
Trumpism, Reganism Top Down Economics and the Myth of the ‘Free Market’
June 30, 2022 at 9:00 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 4 Comments
Robert Reich: “Wealth and power are inseparable. Democracy depends on the support of a large and growing middle class that shares a nation’s growing wealth — and through that wealth, its power.”
“But for the last four decades, even as the American economy has tripled in size, the wages of most Americans have gone nowhere (in terms of real purchasing power) and America’s middle class has shrunk. An increasing portion of the nation’s wealth has gone to the top 10 percent — and a disproportionate amount of that to the richest 1 percent (and of that to the richest 1 percent of the richest 1 percent). Most Americans, by contrast, are now living paycheck to paycheck, and barely making it.”
“This vast consolidation of wealth and power at the top has not been due to neutral market forces. It is the product of a vicious cycle.”
rrp's GF.
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) on Thursday threw her support toward letting Russian President Vladimir Putin win by pulling the United States out of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
Writing on Twitter, Greene slammed the Biden administration for continuing to supply Ukraine with the weapons it says it needs to repel the Russian military invasion that began back in February.
"The American people do not want war with Russia, but NATO and our own foolish leaders are dragging us into one," Greene wrote. "A war that no one will win. Escalation over Ukraine, a non-member nation, risking nuclear war is a power play endangering the entire world. We should pull out of NATO."
In defiance of US bishops, Nancy Pelosi received Communion at the Vatican
VATICAN CITY (RNS) — In defiance of some U.S. bishops, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi reportedly received Communion during a Mass presided over by Pope Francis on Wednesday (June 29) for the celebration of the feast of Sts. Peter and Paul.
Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone announced June 1 that the Catholic congresswoman is banned from receiving Communion in her home diocese of San Francisco due to her abortion rights stance. Since then, she has been barred from receiving the sacrament in four dioceses.
Pelosi called the recent pronouncement by the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade an “outrageous and heart-wrenching” decision. The U.S. Catholic bishops lauded the court’s decision, which they said overturned “an unjust law that has permitted some to decide whether others can live or die.”
Pelosi met with Francis on Wednesday before the service and received a blessing, according to one of the Mass attendees.
Sitting in the VIP section during the traditional Mass at St. Peter’s to celebrate the patron saints of Rome, Pelosi listened to Pope Francis’ homily before receiving Communion from one of the many priests in the basilica, according to eyewitnesses. Francis has rarely distributed Communion, citing precisely the desire to prevent politicization of the sacrament.
Last year, President Joe Biden, another Catholic who also supports abortion rights, said after meeting with Francis that the pontiff told him to continue receiving the sacrament. Biden later received Communion during a Mass in a Rome church that is under the authority of Francis as bishop of Rome.
In his homily, Francis urged faithful to “Go to the crossroads and bring everyone: blind, deaf, lame, sick, righteous, sinful, everyone, everyone! This word of the Lord must resound, resound in the mind and heart: everyone! In the church there is room for everyone,” adding that “many times we become a church with open doors but to dismiss people, to condemn people.”
Last year, Pope Francis told reporters on his return flight from Central Europe that he has never denied Communion to anyone and criticized bishops who didn’t act as shepherds and “aligned themselves with political life, on political problems.” The Vatican’s doctrinal department, in a letter in May of last year, urged the U.S. bishops to engage in dialogue among themselves and with Catholic politicians before reaching any decision.
By the way, today is Black Vagina installation day at the USSC.
yay.
Biden says he backs changing filibuster rules for abortion
4 minutes ago
Busy day
MADRID — Finland and Sweden will sign the NATO accession protocol on Tuesday, Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg announced Thursday at the alliance’s summit in Madrid.
Signing the protocols will bring the two countries closer to NATO membership, potentially expanding the alliance from 30 to 32 members and sending a strong message to Russia.
Signing the protocol does not confer membership. Sweden and Finland will not be full members — and will not be protected by NATO’s mutual collective protections — until all 30 current members ratify the protocol, a process which could take many months.
Asked about Russia’s potential response to their accession, Stoltenberg said the alliance is “prepared for any eventuality," but noted that “what we see now in Ukraine demonstrates that Russia is fully focused on that war.”
Turkey blocked the accession process for about a month over what Ankara said was the two countries’ support for Kurdish militant groups. On Tuesday, after weeks of diplomatic wrangling, Turkey dropped its opposition, paving the way for the alliance to grow.
Driving the news: Biden said Roe should be codified and that "the way to do that is to make sure that Congress votes to do that. ... And if the filibuster gets in the way ... we should provide an exception."
The president clarified that he believes the right to privacy should be codified, which would protect more than just abortion access on the federal level. It could include access to contraceptives and marriage equality.
What he's saying: "The one thing that has been destabilizing is the outrageous behavior of the Supreme Court of the United States and overruling not only Roe v. Wade, but essentially challenging the right to privacy," Biden added.
This might be the game changer.
a minute ago
Congress did not give the EPA the power to devise emissions caps based on the generation shifting approach the Agency took in the (Obama era) Clean Power Plan.
WV
The stay in Mexico rules are dead
BWAAAAAAAAA!!!:
A New York judge ruled Wednesday that Donald Trump is no longer in contempt for failing to turn over documents demanded in a subpoena by the state's attorney general.
The former president's April 25 contempt finding came after he contested a December subpoena seeking records related to his personal finances and the financing of several properties. Trump claimed he had no material that was responsive to the subpoena, leading to demands by the judge and the office of New York Attorney General Letitia James that his attorneys provide detailed explanations of how they conducted their search.
"Although we are pleased that the court has lifted the contempt finding, we maintain that it was wholly unwarranted and improper in the first place," Alina Habba, an attorney for Trump, said in a text message. "We will push ahead with our appeal to secure justice for our client."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-contempt-cleared-new-york-fraud-investigation/
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court handed President Joe Biden a victory Thursday, ruling that he can shut down a Trump administration program designed to restrict immigration at the southern border.
The court said the Biden administration acted properly in seeking to end the "Remain in Mexico" policy, formally known as the Migrant Protection Protocols. It required people seeking asylum at the southern border, mainly from Central America, to wait in Mexico while their claims were decided.
rrb will explode
But this is not good news for our grandchildren
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Thursday curbed the Environmental Protection Agency’s options for limiting greenhouse gas emissions from existing power plants, one of the most important environmental decisions in years.
In a setback for the Biden administration’s efforts for combating climate change, the court said the EPA does not have broad authority to shift the nation’s energy production away from coal-burning power plants toward cleaner sources, including solar and wind power.
WASHINGTON -- In a blow to the fight against climate change, the Supreme Court on Thursday limited how the nation's main anti-air pollution law can be used to reduce carbon dioxide emissions from power plants.
By a 6-3 vote, with conservatives in the majority, the court said that the Clean Air Act does not give the Environmental Protection Agency broad authority to regulate greenhouse gas emissions from power plants that contribute to global warming.
The court's ruling could complicate the administration's plans to combat climate change. Its proposal to regulate power plant emissions is expected by the end of the year.
President Joe Biden aims to cut the nation's greenhouse gas emissions in half by the end of the decade and to have an emissions-free power sector by 2035. Power plants account for roughly 30% of carbon dioxide output.
From late January 2019 until Biden suspended the program, more than 68,000 people were shuttled back to Mexico. Tent cities sprang up near border entry stations on the Mexican side of the border. Human rights groups said hundreds of asylum seekers were kidnapped, raped, tortured or assaulted.
The Supreme Court decision was great 👍
Rein in these out of control agencies
Anonymous Caliphate4vr said...
Rein in these out of control agencies
There are so many agencies that deserve to be utterly destroyed and the earth salted upon which they stood -
EPA, FBI, Education, HUD... just to name a few.
"The American people do not want war with Russia, but NATO and our own foolish leaders are dragging us into one," Greene wrote.
She's precisely correct. We're in a proxy war with Russia with an imbecile calling the shots on our end. This needs to stop. Prevent the 100,000 troop deployment and leave NATO ASAP.
FUCK UKRAINE.
Cheney gives a speech is Simi Valley, CA and gets a big ovation. Go figure.
She's not getting those in Wyoming.
Problem for Liz Cheney is simple... while she hates Trump, she is still a conservative down to the core. She will be picked up likely by some liberal network because she is a liberal darling... for now.
But on any and every subject that is not Trump, she will be on the opposite side as everyone else. Once the anti-Trump infatuation subsides, a CNN or MSNBC will have no use for her. They don't want to hear her views on immigration, the economy, etc...
Oh and of course for the benefit of Roger, Denny and Reverend. Let it be known that she applauded the Dobbs ruling, is pro-life, and happy that this is back in State hands.
Hmmmmm... can you really get behind someone that evil?
Meanwhile, the National Review looked at Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony, writing that that Trump “willfully exacerbated the problem” on January 6 and that “things will not be the same after this.”
That National Review article was written by McCarthy and less than 24 hours later he was back to suggesting that the committee's handling of the hearings ended up causing problems for the Hutchinson testimony.
I don’t mean to be a broken record on this, but every time a strong witness appears in these sessions, it becomes more obvious how much Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Democrats have undermined the value of the committee by failing to adhere to minimal due-process standards — permitting cross-examination and perspectives other than the committee members’ monochromatic abhorrence of the former president. Democrats have characteristically chosen iron-fisted control of the political narrative over the integrity of the fact-finding process. Their choice is gratuitously self-destructive: The Democrats had nothing to fear from cross-examination; these witnesses would easily have handled it, and good witnesses usually get stronger on cross; it would have made the hearings more interesting to the public; and the committee would have enjoyed broader public acceptance. Pelosi, instead, gave her opposition, and Trump, a good excuse to dismiss the whole exercise as rigged.
So how it works... McCarthy's knee jerk reaction was that Hutchinson was well vetted, that she was likely telling the truth, and that people would really see it as a game changer...
But that didn't happen.
What happened is that Hutchinson's hearsay was disputed by the first hand accounts... which then led to questions as to why the first hand accounts were not the ones being questions. A letter she said she wrote was not written by her, further undermining her credibility.
And suddenly we are right back to square one. All the Trump haters lining up to give Hutchinson a gold star and all the Trump supporters seeing her as another dishonest liberal hack telling stories she cannot back up.
The lesson to be learned (and even people like McCarthy can still learn) is that this hearing is simply not moving the needle and the realization has to be accepted that the lines have been drawn on Trump and there is little that will likely change that.
How many times over the past 6 years has the left demanded that "this" was the straw that was going to break Trump's back and everyone would desert him. If anything, what you are seeing on the right is a consolidation from the people what previously had wanted to get away from him, but no longer see that as the correct political move.
Roger & James why are you wholly incapable of staying on a thread topic?
Lack of self discipline?
This Thread is about Bidenomics abd his Administration.
Mentioned in this thread.
Biden. = 13
TRUMP = 57
She will be picked up likely by some liberal network because she is a liberal darling... for now.
She'll get picked up by XiNN or MSDNC to be the useful idiot 'house conservative' like George Will and Jonah Goldberg.
They were for sale. She obviously is too.
A congressional hearing is not a trial. During the Obama administration they conducted a similar hearing on Bengazi.
The same thing applies in congressional impeachment hearings. There is no cross examination until the trial in the Senate.
His opinion is based upon policies not the rules of the Congressional branch of Government.
A congressional hearing is not a trial. During the Obama administration they conducted a similar hearing on Bengazi.
The same thing applies in congressional impeachment hearings. There is no cross examination until the trial in the Senate.
His opinion is based upon policies not the rules of the Congressional branch of Government.
If the hearings expose law violation then the Attorney General has to decide whether to proceed with a grand jury investigation and eventually conduct a trial.
During the Obama administration they conducted a similar hearing on Bengazi.
A LIE.
Hillary faced her accusers and their questions.
The J6 cowards afforded Trump no such luxury.
There's no equivalence, moral, legal, or otherwise.
Fucking Moron.*
*h/t: Indy Voter
She was the Secretary of State. Not the President.
But of course you don't use anything.
‘BuT EvErYtHiNg eLsE WaS TrUe!’ Lefties are really NOT dealing well with Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony falling apart (point and laugh with us)
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/06/30/but-everything-else-was-true-lefties-are-really-not-dealing-well-with-cassidy-hutchinsons-testimony-falling-apart-point-and-laugh-with-us/
Blogger Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
She was the Secretary of State. Not the President.
That makes a difference? Both were/are public officials at the highest levels of our Federal Government.
She stood accused.
Trump stands accused.
She was allowed to face her accusers and respond to the allegations and their questions.
Trump was NOT.
Indy Voter's point about you remains in good standing.
Trump Denies Lunging at Secret Service
June 30, 2022 at 10:40 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 64 Comments
Former President Donald Trump “denied lunging at his Secret Service security on Jan. 6 after they refused to take him to the Capitol when he wanted to march alongside his supporters after a rally,”
The Hill reports.
Said Trump:
“She said I jumped from a car and started strangling – think of this – started strangling a Secret Service agent who I know very well."
He added:
“Who would do that? I would grab a Secret Service person by the throat?”
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THAT'S NOT WHAT SHE SAID, LIAR. Nothing about jumping from the car or "strangling"
Just
1) reaching for the steering wheel and having your arm grabbed by Engel
2) and then your reaching toward the area of his collar bone..
It really happened.:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1542320284216299526
OH NO! THEY RELEASED THE TAPE!!!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1541937891198345221
Justices to Review State Legislative Power in Elections
June 30, 2022 at 11:07 am EDT By Taegan Goddard Leave a Comment
“The Supreme Court on Thursday said it will consider what would be a radical change in the way federal elections are conducted, giving state legislatures sole authority to set the rules for contests even if their actions violated state constitutions and resulted in extreme partisan gerrymandering for congressional seats,” the Washington Post reports.
Vox: “The case is perhaps the gravest threat to American democracy since the January 6 attack. It seeks to reinstate gerrymandered congressional maps that were struck down by North Carolina’s highest court because they ‘subordinated traditional neutral redistricting criteria in favor of extreme partisan advantage’ for the Republican Party.”
Rick Hasen:
“Pause on that for a moment:
the theory in its extreme is that the state constitution as interpreted by the state supreme court is not a limit on legislative power. This extreme position would essentially neuter the development of any laws protecting voters more broadly than the federal constitution based on voting rights provisions in state constitutions.
“And this theory might not just restrain state supreme courts: it can also potentially restrain state and local agencies and governors implementing rules for running elections.”
DICTATORSHIP WARNING!
So Reverend...
No that is has been not only confirmed that Ornato is saying he never told Hutchinson such a thing... but that he was "shocked" when he heard the testimony?
Are you still sticking with the insistence that this still happened?
Scott, this is what really bothers me is because if the Supreme Court decision could lead to the end of Federalism.
The Supreme Court’s announcement on Thursday that it will hear Moore v. Harper, a case that could concentrate an unprecedented amount of power in gerrymandered state legislatures, should alarm anyone who cares about democracy.
The case is perhaps the gravest threat to American democracy since the January 6 attack. It seeks to reinstate gerrymandered congressional maps that were struck down by North Carolina’s highest court because they “subordinated traditional neutral redistricting criteria in favor of extreme partisan advantage” for the Republican Party.
The plaintiffs argue that the state supreme court didn’t have the authority to strike down these maps, and rest their claim on legal arguments that would fundamentally alter how congressional and presidential elections are conducted.
Moore involves the “independent state legislature doctrine,” a theory that the Supreme Court has rejected many times over the course of more than a century — but that started to gain steam after Republican appointees gained a supermajority on the Supreme Court at the end of the Trump administration..
If the current Supreme Court judges in favor, Moore v. Harper will be the end of Federal power on gerrymandering and voting rights regulations.
In effect it would reverse the 20th century Civil and voting rights era.
MAGA is the most dangerous philosophy in our history.
https://www.vox.com/23161254/supreme-court-threat-democracy-january-6
IMPORTANT!
GOP Megadonors Turn on Trump
June 30, 2022 at 11:02 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 8 Comments
“Support from some of the Republican Party’s biggest donors for a 2024 White House run by former President Donald Trump is dwindling, especially after damaging new details of his actions on Jan. 6, 2021 were revealed at a hearing Tuesday by the House Select Committee investigating the attack on the U.S. Capitol,” CNBC reports.
“Republican financiers and their advisors have been privately meeting since the committee started to release the initial findings of its ongoing probe in a series of public hearings earlier this month, according to interviews with top GOP fundraisers who have helped the party raise millions of dollars.”
IS IT TIME TO FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE?
Biden Supports Exception to Filibuster to Codify Roe v. Wade
June 30, 2022 at 10:42 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 46 Comments
President Biden said he supports suspending the filibuster, if necessary, to pass legislation codifying Roe v. Wade into law, the Wall Street Journal reports.
But a reminder from the Washington Post: Sinema and Manchin have resisted past calls for filibuster exceptions.
Biden gets a Win and Americans lose.
Supreme Court: Biden Can End Trump-era ‘Remain in Mexico’ Immigration Policy
Come on Man.
"C.H. TruthJune 30, 2022 at 10:35 AM
So Reverend...
No that is has been not only confirmed that Ornato is saying he never told Hutchinson such a thing... but that he was "shocked" when he heard the testimony?
Are you still sticking with the insistence that this still happened?"
10:35 So you think Hutchinson lied?
I don't.
But there have been many willing to lie, and still are, to support Trump's Big Lie.
Joe promise Billions of Tax Payer dollars to fund Abortion Vaccays.
Blogger Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
Scott, this is what really bothers me is because if the Supreme Court decision could lead to the end of Federalism.
Except for the inconvenient fact that returning the decision of abortion to the states is the very essence and definition of Federalism.
What is the best definition for federalism?
Federalism is a system of government in which entities such as states or provinces share power with a national government. The United States government functions according to the principles of federalism. The U.S. political system evolved from the philosophy of federalism.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Federalism&rlz=1C1CHWA_enUS606US606&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Scott, this is what really bothers me is because if the Supreme Court decision could lead to the end of Federalism.
I am not following...
Federalism is the idea that each state has a degree of sovereignty over its own laws. The issue at hand has nothing to do with Federalism.
The issue is a dispute between a State Congress and the State Courts. Either way, the states will make the decision (not the USSC). THe court would simply be determining whether Congress or the Courts.
At issue is the fact that the US Constitution gives the authority to run elections to the State Legislature and it words it specifically as such using the term "legislature" vs just the States (as an entity).
The doctrine at hand (independent state) basically argues that because that authority comes from the Federal Constitution that the Federal Courts (not the State Court) should be the final arbitrator of election legislation.... and that ultimately their own State Courts should be limited in how far they can go to overturn legislation for Federal elections.
While it is true that challenges to State rulings have not been heard by previous courts that doesn't mean that the doctrine is not valid or that the argument should not be heard.
I see no reason why a gerrymandering case cannot be settled in a Federal Court rather than a State Court. After all, we had multiple examples of liberal State courts throwing out new maps drawn by Republican legislations and no examples of a "conservative" State court throwing out new maps drawn by Democrats. One might believe that the same courts (Federal) might be more fair and consistent with how each state is allowed to draw lines?
I mean... wouldn't you agree that consistency should be important when it comes to states drawing congressional maps? Or do you like the idea that Democrats can run to court every time something doesn't go their way and that this becomes tougher if they have to go Federal?
U.S.
Bobby Engel's Testimony Consistent With Cassidy Hutchinson—Legal Expert
BY EWAN PALMER ON 6/29/22 AT 4:51 AM E
A legal expert has suggested that key details from Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony claiming that Donald Trump lunged at a Secret Service agent's throat and grabbed the steering wheel of the presidential limousine in an attempt to join his supporters rioting at the Capitol can be corroborated by Secret Service agent Bobby Engel's previous testimony.
Hutchinson, a former aide to White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, made a series of bombshell claims in Tuesday's hearings, including those surrounding Trump's actions soon after he delivered his speech at the Ellipse.
The Secret Service is reportedly willing to testify that the then-President did not reach for the steering wheel in the car or lunge at Engel, the head of Trump's Secret Service detail at the time.
Engel has already testified to the January 6 committee behind closed doors. Details of his deposition were previously reported by Politico, although it did not include a description of the alleged altercation.
Engel is said to have told the committee that he and Trump spoke about the former president's desire to go to the Capitol on January 6 but "took different views on the topic" and went back to the White House instead, according to Politico.
Ryan Goodman, professor of law at New York University School of Law, said it is "legally significant" that some of Engel's testimony is "consistent" with Hutchinson.
"Trump wanted to join at Capitol even as violence unfolded, Trump raised privately with Engel, Engel disagreed, drove back to WH," Goodman tweeted while highlighting key passages from the Politico report.
Hutchinson told the panel that Trump was irate in the back of the vehicle and demanded to be taken to the Capitol so he could join his supporters.
When he was told that they would be going back to the White House, Hutchinson revealed the former president "said something to the effect of 'I'm the f'ing president, take me up to the Capitol now.'"
Hutchinson said Trump reached up towards the front of the vehicle, known as "The Beast," to grab at the steering wheel.
Engel is said to have grabbed the former president by the arm and told him "sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel."
When Engel informed Trump that they were going back to the White House and not the Capitol where the insurrection was unfolding, Trump is alleged to have "used his free hand to lunge towards" Engel and reach for his clavicle area, according to Hutchinson, citing a conversation she had with Tony Ornato, a senior Secret Service official who was Trump's deputy chief of staff for operations.
The New York Times and Associated Press say both Engel and the driver are prepared to testify that Trump never lunged for the steering wheel. Ornato is also reported to be prepared to deny the claims from Hutchinson under oath.
Journalist Patrick W. Watson suggested there are three possibilities why Engel did not discuss the alleged incident during his earlier testimony.
"1. He denied the limo incident.
2. He confirmed the limo incident.
3. The limo incident wasn't discussed," Watson tweeted.
"We can rule out #1, since the committee wouldn't leave Hutchinson open to being disproven. So it must be 2 or 3."
Trump himself denied the claims in a series of posts on Truth Social as Hutchinson was delivering her testimony.
"Her Fake story that I tried to grab the steering wheel of the White House Limousine in order to steer it to the Capitol Building is 'sick' and fraudulent, very much like the Unselect Committee itself—Wouldn't even have been possible to do such a ridiculous thing," Trump wrote.
Responding to the claims the Secret Service agents are willing to dispute Hutchinson's testimony, her lawyer Jody Hunt tweeted: "Hutchinson testified, under oath, and recounted what she was told. Those with knowledge of the episode also should testify under oath."
Mick Mulvaney, Trump's former Acting Chief of Staff, said he believes Hutchinson's testimony.
"My guess is that before this is over, we will be hearing testimony from Ornato, Engel, and Meadows," Mulvaney tweeted.
"This is explosive stuff. If Cassidy is making this up, they will need to say that. If she isn't they will have to corroborate. I know her. I don't think she is lying."
In a statement, the Secret Service said it has been cooperating with the Select Committee since its inception in spring 2021, and "will continue to do so, including by responding on the record to the Committee regarding the new allegations surfaced in today's testimony."
Antiabortion Lawmakers Seek to Block
June 30, 2022 at 11:22 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 88 Comments
“Several national antiabortion groups and their allies in Republican-led state legislatures are advancing plans to stop people in states where abortion is banned from seeking the procedure elsewhere,“ the Washington Post reports.
“The idea has gained momentum in some corners of the antiabortion movement in the days since the Supreme Court struck down its 49-year-old precedent protecting abortion rights nationwide, triggering abortion bans across much of the Southeast and Midwest.”
Ketanji Brown Jackson was sworn in as a Supreme Court justice Thursday, making her the first Black woman on the nation's highest court.
Jackson, a former public defender and federal appeals court judge, was sworn in during a small ceremony shortly after Justice Stephen Breyer's retirement became official. Chief Justice John Roberts administered the constitutional oath and Breyer administered the judicial oath.
Jackson's nomination was confirmed by the Senate in a 53-47 vote in April. Vice President Kamala Harris, the first Black American and first person of South Asian descent to be elected to her role, presided over the vote.
Rrb is addicted to black vaginas
Yay.
Black vagina got installed. Sotomayor has competition for the dumbest fuck on the highest court.
Identity politics is awesome.
The Supreme Court finished its term by stripping the authority of the federal government: CNN analyst
Sarah K. Burris
June 30, 2022
Looking at the collective term of the Supreme Court, the justices have slowly eroded the power of the executive and legislative branches of government, according to CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin.
The Supreme Court recently eliminated powers of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to enforce regulations and disputed President Joe Biden's elimination of the Remain in Mexico policy and sent it back to a court where a pro-Donald Trump judge has been hostile to the administration.
Talking about the cases, Toobin explained, "conservatives [have] been so successful in the Supreme Court this term and for a generation have been pushing on these issues. And one of their great causes has been to limit the power of the federal government. Especially the administrative agencies."
The Constitution documents the separation of powers between the three branches of government, which were supposed to be equal in power. As the court strikes down laws passed by Congress, or the power of federal agencies to regulate corporations the question becomes if the Court is creating an imbalance in the equality of power.
A good point
"We can rule out #1, since the committee wouldn't leave Hutchinson open to being disproven. So it must be 2 or 3."
They already did leave her out to be disproven...
As most everyone else (besides this one person) seems to take Ornato at his word that he did not discuss any of this with Hutchinson, much less tell the committee that it happened.
As pointed out earlier, some (such as McCarthy) did an almost complete 180 going from bombshell testimony to another commission blunder of leaving themselves open to attacks of being partisan and one sided.
My best guess Reverend...
Is that the committee will move on from this and on to their next set of misrepresentations and lies. They convinced the fools and they will not convince anyone else and providing any sort of alternative testimony that is not consistent across the board will lead to both or all witnesses being questioned by someone as being dishonest.
They screwed the pooch Reverend.
I know it.
You know it.
Everyone knows it.
There special session turned out to be a special clusterfuck of shit on a stick.
Of course she lied. She is extremely ambitious and she is young and smart. She's not about to hitch her future to Trump. She knows she can say anything without consequence if it's against Trump.
So remain in Mexico is done. Just we need, more immigration. What a disaster Biden is.
More than one quarter of US residents feel so estranged from their government that they feel it might “soon be necessary to take up arms” against it, a poll released on Thursday claimed.
This survey of 1,000 registered US voters, published by the University of Chicago’s Institute of Politics (IOP), also revealed that most Americans agree the government is “corrupt and rigged against everyday people like me”.
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Republican push to recruitelection deniers as poll workers causes alarm
The data suggests that extreme polarization in US politics – and its impact on Americans’ relationships with each other – remain strong. These statistics come as a congressional committee is holding public hearings on the January 6 insurrection.
This deadly attack on the US Capitol stemmed from the false, partisan, pro-Donald Trump belief that Joe Biden did not win the 2020 election. Rioters attempted to thwart certification of the election, in an effort to keep Trump in office.
Although the violent insurrectionists targeted Republicans and Democrats alike, GOP Trump loyalists have insisted that the committee is illegitimate. These attacks on the committee intensified after Trump staffers themselves – including former attorney general Bill Barr – publicly described his efforts to push “the big lie” that the presidential election was stolen.
The survey indicates that distrust in government varies among party lines. While 56% of participants said they “generally trust elections to be conducted fairly and counted accurately”, Republicans, Democrats and independents were dramatically split on this point. Nearly 80% of Democrats voiced overall trust in elections, but that number dipped to 51% among independents and a mere 33% of Republicans.
Per the poll, 49% of Americans concurred that they “more and more feel like a stranger in my own country”. Again, this number reflected sharp political divisions: the sentiment was held by 69% of self-described “strong Republicans”, 65% of self-described “very conservative” persons, and 38% of “strong Democrats”.
Of the 28% of voters who felt it might soon be necessary “to take up arms against the government”, 37% had guns in their homes, according to the data.
One-third of Republicans – including 45% of “strong Republicans – hold this belief about taking up arms. 35% of independent voters, and 20% of Democrats, also agreed, the poll said.
Meanwhile, those polled voiced negative sentiments about persons from opposing political parties. Seventy-three per cent of self-described Republican voters agreed that “Democrats are generally bullies who want to impose their political beliefs on those who disagree,” and “an almost identical percentage of Democrats (74%) express that view of Republicans”.
“While we’ve documented for years the partisan polarization in the country, these poll results are perhaps the starkest evidence of the deep divisions in partisan attitudes rippling through the country,” said the Republican pollster Neil Newhouse, who conducted the survey in May with and Democratic pollster Joel Benenson.
This is how a real President acts
President Joe Biden says the United States will support Ukraine for “as long as it takes” to ensure it is not defeated by Russia.Russia’s defence ministry announces its troops have withdrawn from Snake Island in the Black Sea as a “gesture of goodwill” aimed at demonstrating Moscow’s support for efforts to restart food exports from Ukraine’s ports. Ukrainian officials hail the announcement as a victory for their forces.
Trump Is In Trouble and He Knows It
June 30, 2022 at 12:37 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard Leave a Comment
John Harris:
“One way to measure Trump’s predicament is to view it through the eyes of someone who supports his ostensible agenda. If you are a sincere opponent of abortion rights, you might be grateful for what Trump did to change the Supreme Court. But would you regard Trump—who for years boasted of his promiscuity, who once asserted ‘I am very pro-choice’ and who is now uneasy about the ramifications of the court’s ruling—as the right person to carry the fight forward into its next, long-term phase?
“Let’s say you are genuinely concerned that efforts to make voting easier through vote-by-mail could dilute election integrity. Is Trump, with his reckless allegations and obvious self-absorption, really your ideal spokesman?
“Two breathtaking developments—one at the Supreme Court, the other across the street at the House select committee—have sent American politics into a whole new realm.
"By experience and temperament, this is not a realm in which Trump is well-equipped to prosper.”
John Podhoretz:
Trump is in deep, deep, deep, deep trouble.
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Add several more deeps to that!
Biden Plans to Deliver Major January 6 Speech
June 30, 2022 at 12:00 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 36 Comments
“President Joe Biden is likely to deliver a speech on the Jan. 6 committee’s findings once the House panel wraps up its investigation,“ NBC News reports.
“The goal of the speech would be to emphasize what Biden believes is at stake should former President Donald Trump or his allies return to power in Washington, the sources said. The exact timing of the speech would be influenced by the committee’s progress in concluding its investigation, but could come before November’s midterm elections.”
Cheney might not be popular in her own party, but nobody can deny that she is a Republican, from a famous Republican family, whose interests cannot be described by anyone as purely partisan. The most important witnesses are Republicans close to Trump. The testimony of Trump’s children, Trump’s lawyers, and Trump’s Cabinet cannot be wished away as something from a left-wing fever dream. Trump’s lawyers are effective because they are Trump’s lawyers. Cassidy Hutchinson, despite her youth and lack of celebrity, made a deep impression with her testimony partly because she followed in a long line of more famous Republicans, and partly because she was clearly a Republican insider herself. That gives her words more weight.
Nothing but Parroting 🦜 from Roger and his date Jammie.
Bidenomics has failed Americans
Slowing 🐌 an already crappy economy.
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Real disposable income. May. -0.1%
Down -0.3%
Cheney might not be popular in her own party, but nobody can deny that she is a Republican, from a famous Republican family, whose interests cannot be described by anyone as purely partisan.
Nobody claims they are "partisan" Roger...
They claim that they are personal just as it has been for many members of the Bush Administration. Trump's version of foreign policy is about 180 degrees from the new-conservative viewpoints held by Dick Cheney and others.
It is the same reason that people like Bill Kristol have also lost their collective minds... they were neo-conservative and neo-conservatism never actually worked in practice.
So Liz would be following in her father's footsteps here and sees Trump and that sort of "populism" as a direct threat to the neoconservative views that were so popular 20 years ago.
Not to mention, Trump went after many of these people and called out where they were wrong. Classic Trump and he alienated people because of it.
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