Let's assume this. But in two more years, if inflation drops to normal and the economy climbs back? Wsj Industrial production, which measures factory, mining and utility output, increased a seasonally adjusted 0.2% in May, the Fed said Friday, down sharply from a revised 1.4% increase the prior month. Manufacturing output dropped 0.1% last month, marking the first decline since January. Mining and utility output both rose, by 1.3% and 1%, respectively.
The easing of industrial output added to signs of an economic slowdown. Factories in the mid-Atlantic region saw diminished activity for the first time in two years this month, the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia said. Home construction in the U.S. declined in May, the Commerce Department said this week. Americans also pulled back spending at retailers for the first time this year in May, the Commerce Department said earlier this week.
“The pace at which everything is changing is quite alarming,” said Oren Klachkin, lead U.S. economist at Oxford Economics. He said the economy still stands on fairly solid ground that can withstand inflation, supply-chain issues and rising interest rates. “But there is certainly a risk of a recession here coming up,” he added.
What matters right now is that we are in a dire economic situation and 90% of it is because of the birdbrained policies we have enacted over the past couple of years...
And yes... I also partially blame spending that was done for "Covid stimulus" under Trump as well. That being said, had we stopped it at the original stimulus or even reduced some of the following stimuluses, we would have been in a much better position. Probably limited inflation and no need to raise rates (which is what is also causing the upcoming Biden recession).
It was really that last 2 trillion dollar (unnecessary in many opinions) that drove us over the edge. But that still doesn't happen if not for the first trillion plus stimulus.
So... I have very little confidence that Biden knows his ass from a hole in the ground right now, much less has any competent plan for getting us out of this economic shithole. We might (as a matter or timing) be coming out of a recession in 2024. But I am not sure that a "recovery" from the Biden Recession is going to be boost Biden's chances.
Devastating evidence indicates that Trump knew he lost -- so his actions were criminal
Jay Bookman, Georgia Recorder
June 17, 2022
We can’t know what’s happening inside the secret, special-purpose grand jury convened at the Fulton County Courthouse in Atlanta. We can’t hear the sworn testimony being given about Donald Trump’s multiple efforts to overturn the 2020 elections here in Georgia; we can’t read the documents being subpoenaed; we can’t know what revelations the investigation might be uncovering.
But up in Washington, D.C., a much more public process is playing out, much of it focused on the same set of facts, narratives and players that Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis is exploring here in Atlanta. And from that, we’re learning a lot.
For example, one of the core issues confronting Willis in her decision whether to prosecute Trump is the question of Trump’s intent. If the former president truly believed that he had carried Georgia and was simply trying to get an accurate vote count, then he committed no crime. But if he did know that he had lost the election but was trying to overturn it anyway, then this was indeed a coup attempt and prosecution is not only possible but necessary.
Roger, lives for "If" He would have stayed in College and gotten a degree. His first wife hadn't cheated in him. IF, he would have sold his house for a Million Dollars.. IF, HE would not have abused his 2nd wife. IF, IF , IF....
It was really that last 2 trillion dollar (unnecessary in many opinions) that drove us over the edge. But that still doesn't happen if not for the first trillion plus stimulus.
And this dumbass admin is only foiled by its own incompetence. Send out gas cards, ooops no chips because of this idiot admin shortages.
I will alkysplain this sending gas cards will further increase inflation
There's no fucking way inflation comes under control soon enough to save FJB - or any other democrat - in 2024. Brandon has fucked us for a good long fucking time. Half a decade minimum.
Two changes to the inflation measure—one a one-time methodological change, and the other a long-running trend—explain much of the apparent difference in CPI rates between the late 1970s and today. The first comes from a 1983 move by the Bureau of Labor Statistics to remove homeownership costs from the CPI measurement and replace them with a metric called owners’ equivalent rent.
The new metric quantifies what homeowners would receive for their homes on the rental market. As one might expect, the metric closely tracks the rental market. (Rent is a separate component of the CPI.) Most importantly, shifting from homeownership costs to owners’ equivalent rent to calculate homeownership costs eliminated the direct effect of mortgage rates—and therefore interest rate policy—on calculating the rate of inflation.
Prior to the 1983 methodological change, the very direct link between interest rates and the homeownership component of the CPI magnified the effects of efforts to combat inflation. Consider the two possible scenarios:
1) The Federal Reserve raises interest rates to combat rising inflation. When interest rates go up, so do mortgage costs—and therefore the cost of homeownership, as reflected in the CPI. Paradoxically, a measure designed to mitigate the effects of rising prices actually increases them, at least with respect to one component of the CPI. Conversely, when the Federal Reserve lowers interest rates, mortgage rates also fall in tandem, so the homeownership costs component of the CPI also declines. Rather than the vicious cycle of scenario one, this scenario would lead to a virtuous cycle, one in which declining inflation would allow the Fed to lower interest rates—which would lower CPI still further.
2) Summers and his co-authors argue that the “interest rate CPI ratchet” (my words, not theirs) of scenario one helped lead to the double-digit inflation rates of the late 1970s and early 1980s. While the 1983 change to the methodology means we will no longer see this “ratchet” in the monthly inflation statistics—which explains why inflation hasn’t risen above 10 percent—it also means we won’t benefit from the benefits of scenario two (i.e., a downward “ratchet”) once inflation starts to get under control.
It has been said, but bears repeating. Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Lea Sinema both US Senators kept the Bidenomics nuking of the US Citizens from being far worse.
Lets see IF Roger can tell us in his own words. Q, How does Biden reduce inflation and keep us out of recession and keep peoole employed and grow real net wages and get gasoline prices down, oh and stop food shortages?
He believed that there were fraudulent votes that Georgia was not willing to look into deeper and that they needed to find those fraudulent votes.
Once again the problem is that in a REAL TRIAL
You don't get to edit and censor the materials you don't want included. You don't get to pick and choose which portions of a transcript are used because it creates a better narrative.
The ENTIRE phone call would be placed into evidence. And it would truly show that Trump thought he won! Despite what some of you tend to believe based on the innuendo of edited materials.
A Man and a Mob June 17, 2022 at 3:53 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard Leave a Comment
Andrew Sullivan: There are simply no precedents in history for this kind of assault on the core principles of the American republic. None. And there is no precedent for a president, having been exposed as a fantasist, to carry on, insisting that his fever dream remains reality, attacking the very legitimacy of our democracy, day after day.
The idea that he could run again — or again become president — could only be entertained by those who wish to end the American experiment.
Peruse the 12-page letter Trump put out in response to the hearings. It is the work of someone with no grip on reality, absurd lie after lie after lie, barely literate, the kind of thing you’d think was written by a lunatic if you received it in the mail.
Any other president would have conceded on election night. Others with a real case (unlike Trump’s) — Nixon in 1960, Gore in 2000 — knew what their duty was. They cared more about the republic than themselves — a concept simply outside Trump’s cognition.
In four years, he never acted as a president. He only ever acted as Trump.
“In the bitter end, he was just a man with a mob. Not a Republican. Not a politician. Not a president. Not a member of any political party but his own cult. A mindless, raging, bullying thug.
The hearings have methodically and calmly revealed this, masterfully led by a Republican, Liz Cheney, through testimony supplied by Republican after Republican witness.”
The idea that he could run again — or again become president — could only be entertained by those who wish to end the American experiment.
Actually the idea that he could be chosen by the GOP voters to run again and by the larger cross section of American voters and become President again..
Is 100% what Democracy is.
Literally the definition of it.
The only "experiment" that would be ending is the one being waged by the crazies on the left trying to disqualify someone from running again by running non-stop investigations, commissions, and hearings.
DOJ official 'emphatic that Garland can and will prosecute' Trump allies over Jan. 6
An investigative reporter who recently spent time with a Justice Department official said he was "optimistic" that former President Donald Trump and his allies will be held accountable for their attack on democracy.
David Rohde, the online news director for The New Yorker, told MSNBC's "Morning Joe" that the House select committee hearings were producing important evidence that could deliver a political and legal blow to the former president.
"I met with a Justice Department official recently and they said they are emphatic that [attorney general Merrick] Garland can and will prosecute if there's enough evidence," Rohde said. "They have pointed back to his speech in January that said he will follow every lead and also the speech he gave at Harvard, a graduation speech about public service, but he talked to that class about the importance of defending democracy. But I do think the Justice Department sees it as a last resort.
"A member of the Judiciary Committee told me they're trying to defeat Donald Trump politically first, what happens at the ballot box," Rohde added. "But the $250 million, $1 million of that going to an organization run by Mark Meadows, lying to people to raise money, not using it for the purpose you promised. So I think that's another angle for a very clear answer, more cut and dried possible prosecution."
The risk with a criminal prosecution would be proving intent, Rohde said, which might be difficult to do for the notoriously slippery Trump.
"Donald Trump is very clever about hinting what he wants, signaling what he wants but not having that definitive proof, so there's a huge desire among people, skeptics of Trump or even people who fear him for a prosecution," Rohde said. "But the bar is much higher for a criminal prosecution and, again, I don't think we know yet what Merrick Garland is going to do, but it's a very serious thing to do it. It's a last resort, I think. What if Donald Trump is put on trial and acquitted?"
But he said both the House Select Committee and the Justice Department understand that some action must be taken in response to the insurrection.
"It's a hell of a moment," he said. "I mean, if we can't agree on election results, we're looking at chaos and civil war, and I've covered this before, and people resorting to political violence is a very dangerous thing for the country, so I think it's an option. Prosecution is necessary if you defy election results."
"I'm optimistic," Rohde added. "I'm impressed with the job that the Jan. 6 committee is doing. They're elected politicians, they're informing voters and producing new information on what the president did."
Let's just cut through the bullshit and get to the truth.
All of this Jan 6th commission, Fulton County, and every other of the 101 investigations into Trump are about one thing... and one thing only.
The scared to the bone, all blood gone from your face, utter terror of the idea that American public will choose to make Donald Trump YOUR President again.
That is 100% what it is about... The rest is utter bullshit.
Expert: Merrick Garland is ‘paralyzed’ with fear — but the ‘snowball effect’ will compel DOJ action
Attorney General Merrick Garland has not yet charged Donald Trump for his conspiracy to overturn the federal election, but one MSNBC legal analyst believes there will eventually be justice in the case.
On Saturday, anchor Ayman Mohyeldin interviewed former federal prosecutor Cynthia Alksne about the case following the first prime-time hearing by the House Select Committee Investigating the Jan. 6 Attack on the U.S. Capitol.
Mohyeldin noted Alksne has been pessimistic about justice coming.
"I am the big pessimist, I admit it," Alksne said. "I feel like I'm always saying it's raining, it's raining, nothing is ever going to happen.
"I am very concerned that the attorney general is so conservative and so protective of the Department of Justice that he's paralyzed. I admit, that is where I am."
But she went on to explain why she is hopeful.
"I will say this, because the subpoena had gone out in the elector case, and they are beginning to ask questions of the electors, it drives me crazy that they are not in a grand jury yet, but these big subpoenas have begun. The only way to investigate that case is to discover that [John] Eastman plotted that. And as you're doing those questions and asking about Eastman, what else did Eastman do? He is the one that comes out with the [Mike] Pence pressure campaign.
"So I think that the snowball effect is going to require the Department of Justice to actually do something. And so the snowball is what is giving me a little optimism and puts a little smile on my face for the first time," she said.
The only "experiment" that would be ending is the one being waged by the crazies on the left trying to disqualify someone from running again by running non-stop investigations, commissions, and hearings.
FJB is doing a bang-up job of crushing the American experiment for millions. Crushing it with thoughtcrimes, newspeak, censorship on a scale never before seen...
...couple that with the economic utter destruction and devastation he's caused, forcing so many out of retirement and back into the work force. Forcing folks to choose between gas and food because they can't afford both, and literally starving American infants, all due to sheer, staggering incompetence.
The searing hatred that America has developed for FJB is real and palpable.
And he deserves every fucking bit of it... times ten.
Speaking of Fulton county they fucked up last month’s primary
Exclusive: Fulton County Gets Busted Certifying False Election Results! Ex-Dominion employee Dominic Olomo refuses to show election records to Fulton County election officials
FJB is doing a bang-up job of crushing the American experiment for millions. Crushing it with thoughtcrimes, newspeak, censorship on a scale never before seen...
What's amazing is that he is still polling in the thirties on favorability
The risk with a criminal prosecution would be proving intent, Rohde said, which might be difficult to do for the notoriously slippery Trump.
That is the "risk" or the reason he has not been charged?
But in reality... that is the ONE main missing part of the puzzle. To prove that while Trump didn't commit any individual crimes per sea that there was some larger mens rea to commit a larger fraud or larger conspiracy...
The Jan 6th commission has gotten us no closer to that. Certainly not in any criminal trial provable manner.
Merrick Garland has more than enough evidence to indict Donald Trump
I know you've heard this before--that accountability is coming for Donald Trump and his cronies for triggering the Jan. 6th insurrection--but this time, something new and different has happened. On March 28, Federal District Court Judge David O. Carter ruled that Trump and former Chapman University law professor John Eastman "more likely than not" committed two felonies in their efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election: obstruction of an official proceeding of Congress, and conspiracy to defraud the United States.
Carter's ruling runs 44 pages and is meticulously detailed. Among other events, it chronicles Eastman's role in drafting two memos for the Trump campaign that set forth a plan to nullify the Electoral College votes in seven swing states when Congress met in joint session on Jan 6, 2021 to certify Joe Biden's victory. The ruling also summarizes Eastman's meetings with Trump, Vice President Mike Pence and other White House officials to execute the plan, as well as Trump's infamous phone call to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger.
Subject to further appeals, the ruling ends a lawsuit Eastman filed to prevent the House Select Committee investigating the insurrection from obtaining 111 emails he had sent or received on his Chapman email account between November 3, 2020 and January 20, 2021. Eastman argued the emails are protected from disclosure under the attorney-client privilege. The committee argued the emails fall within the "crime-fraud exception," which holds that the privilege does not cover communications made with the intent to further or conceal a crime. Carter ordered Eastman to turn over 101 of the emails, finding the crime-fraud exception applied.
Although Carter's decision only affects Eastman directly, it has profound implications for both Trump and Attorney General Merrick Garland, the nation's top law-enforcement officer. In words that surely will get Garland's attention, Carter wrote:
"The illegality of the plan [to overturn the election] was obvious. Our nation was founded on the peaceful transition of power, epitomized by George Washington laying down his sword to make way for democratic elections. Ignoring this history, President Trump vigorously campaigned for the Vice President to single-handedly determine the results of the 2020 election. As Vice President Pence stated [at the time], 'no Vice President in American history has ever asserted such authority.' Every American—and certainly the President of the United States—knows that in a democracy, leaders are elected, not installed. With a plan this 'BOLD,' President Trump knowingly tried to subvert this fundamental principle."
Carter's ruling marks the first time a sitting judge has found that that Trump likely violated federal criminal law. And while the likelihood finding falls well below the reasonable-doubt standard that must be met to secure a criminal conviction, it is more exacting than the probable-cause standard Department of Justice lawyers use to decide when to recommend or commence prosecutions. The probable-cause test is also used by federal grand juries use to decide whether to return indictments.
Merrick Garland not ruling out prosecuting Donald Trump
One year into his term as U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland is once again responding to an almost overwhelming call from the left and from some Democratic elected officials – including the House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack – to prosecute Donald Trump, the former president.
And in a rare moment the former Chief Judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit is answering his critics – very carefully – but serving up essentially the same response as he did earlier.
“We are not avoiding cases that are political or cases that are controversial or sensitive,” Garland told NPR in an interview published Thursday. “What we are avoiding is making decisions on a political basis, on a partisan basis.”
The Select Committee investigating the attack on the Capitol, the insurrection, and the assault on our very democracy last week filed in court what prosecutors might see as damning felony charges against Donald Trump, including “criminal conspiracy to defraud the United States,” and corrupt obstruction of an official proceeding.
Garland explained the DOJ’s process:
“We begin with the cases that are right in front of us with the overt actions and then we build from there. And that is a process that we will continue to build until we hold everyone accountable who committed criminal acts with respect to January 6.”
In January, facing criticism from those who believe Trump and his associates should be charged and questioning why they have not been, Garland said:
“The Justice Department remains committed to holding all January 6 perpetrators at any level accountable under law, whether they were present that day or were otherwise criminally responsible for the assault on our democracy.”
Today, those looking for signs that Trump will face justice might take some solace in Garland’s non-committal hint: “This had to do with the interference with the peaceful transfer of power from one administration to another. And it doesn’t get more important than that.”
something new and different has happened. On March 28, Federal District Court Judge David O. Carter ruled that Trump and former Chapman University law professor John Eastman "more likely than not" committed two felonies in their efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election: obstruction of an official proceeding of Congress, and conspiracy to defraud the United States.
Hmmmm....
It's June 17th.
March 28th is not new and that argument is not "different'.
But let me Scottsplain this to you...
This was a "civil" trial. The judge made a call (questionable in the eyes of many) that given the evidence that was presented to him that it was "more likely than not" (preponderance of evidence) that Trump committed a crime and that the Attorney Client privilege was voided.
What the Judge didn't do is say that Trump was likely to be found guilty of any crime "beyond a reasonable doubt" because that had nothing to do with the situation.
Also... Trump was not represented by counsel and therefore the Judge "only" considered the prosecutors version of events.
So this was a one sided situation where evidence of a so-called crime was presented with no ability for the accused to provide any sort of defense or rebuttal.
The threshold is not beyond a reasonable doubt in civil trials, but a preponderance of evidence. Entirely different concepts.
So even if you believe the Judge made the correct call...
That doesn't mean that Trump would be found guilty of a crime OR does it mean that a prosecutor would believe (based on that opinion which would be inadmissible to a criminal proceeding) that it brings prosecution any closer to being able to secure "guilty beyond reasonable doubt".
Former President Donald Trump on Friday fired back at the House select committee investigating the events of Jan. 6, 2021.
"There's no clearer example of the menacing spirit that has devoured the American left than the disgraceful performance being staged by the unselect committee," Trump said at a conference hosted by the Faith and Freedom Coalition in Nashville, Tennessee.
"They're con people," Trump continued. "They're con artists."
The committee has held three of the seven public hearings scheduled for this month, laying out what it says was a "sophisticated, seven-part plan" by Trump and his supporters to overturn his 2020 election loss to Joe Biden.
Trump was well aware of the fact that he lost, the committee argued, using testimony from members of his inner circle. But he moved ahead anyway with an illegal plot to remain in power and raised millions of dollars in the process of pushing the "big lie" that he was the real winner.
CH: "That doesn't mean that Trump would be found guilty of a crime OR(sic, should be nor) does it mean that a prosecutor would believe (based on that opinion which would be inadmissible to a criminal proceeding) that it brings prosecution any closer to being able to secure "guilty beyond reasonable doubt".
Understand???
Or are you not keeping up? ______
Are you keeping up with what Judge J. Michael Luggit and others are now saying?
Are you keeping up with what Judge J. Michael Luggit and others are now saying?
Sure... and they sound like the sky if falling, crazed paranoid lunatics who predict the end of the world if the wrong person is elected President again.
Let's be clear. If Trump is elected President again in 2024 and there is social unrest, violence, bombings, and fighting in the streets... all the things these that are being suggested..
That will be on those of you who decide to act like the Jan 6th protesters and use violence versus patriotic and peaceful protests.
It will not be on those who used the Democratic process to elect a President.
J. Michael Luttig, a former federal judge and conservative legal expert who advised former Vice President Mike Pence during his time in office, forcefully dismantled the theory that Pence could overturn the results of the 2020 election during his June 16 testimony June 16 before the House Jan. 6 committee.
Luttig explained to the committee that in his opinion, the theory that the vice president had any power in overturning the result of the election during Congress’ official count of electoral votes was not only wrong, but also dangerous.
“The declaration of Donald Trump as the next president would have plunged America into what I believe would have been tantamount to a revolution within a constitutional crisis in America,” Luttig told the committee.
He described in thorough detail the constitutional basis for the vice president counting the electoral votes on Jan. 6, and said that in his view, the text is “pristine clear.”
“There was no basis in the constitution or laws of the United States at all for the theory espoused by Mr. Eastman. At all. None,” Luttig said.
He also said that on Jan. 6, the vice president had “little substantive constitutional authority, if any at all” over Congress’ proceedings.
According to CNN, Pence’s personal lawyer, Richard Cullen, contacted Luttig asking him to provide a legal argument to rebut Eastman, who had once been Luttig’s clerk. Luttig published a tweet thread the day before the Jan. 6 insurrection on whether Pence as vice president had the ability to change the way Electoral College votes were counted. Luttig concluded that Pence did not.
“The only responsibility and power of the Vice President under the Constitution is to faithfully count the electoral college votes as they have been cast,” Luttig wrote.
According to testimony by Luttig and others, Eastman argued that earlier vice presidents had taken action similar to what Eastman was proposing.
But Luttig rebuffed the idea that there has been any historical precedent for the vice president rejecting electoral votes, calling that theory the “root of what I have called the blueprint to overturn the 2020 election.”
“I would have laid my body across the road before I would have let the vice president overturn the 2020 election on the basis of that historical precedent,” he said.
In his final statement, Luttig said he believes Trump and his supporters are a “clear and present danger to American democracy.”
He said he’s worried that Trump or his “anointed successor” would try to overturn the results of the 2024 election should they not win.
“I do not speak these words lightly. I would have never spoken these words ever in my life, except that’s what the former president and his allies are telling us,” he said.
That will be on those of you who decide to act like the Jan 6th protesters
WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE CURRENT MO OF THE GOP COUNTRY WIDE!!!!!!!!! The wrath and fear of the white man drives many to do stupid things especially trump supporters!!!!! How try tried to push the left were evil Lil Schitty as the right's constant plotting to overthrow democracy should concern even an idiot like you!!!!!
Charlie Spiering https://twitter.com/Oilfield_Rando/status/1537883458889916416
Biden leaves the White House at 11:00 AM for his vacation home in Rehoboth Beach
Oilfield Rando @Oilfield_Rando
I might be more inclined to take a guy more seriously on his climate concerns if he didn’t drag a convoy of military jets and helicopters to the beach every weekend.
Well he's still way to busy to go to the border
while the stock market is crashing
inflation is soaring
food is running short
gas is through the rook and electricity costs are following
war and threats of war are breaking out everywhere
Trump is saying, in effect, "If nominated, I will be the next president whether or not I win the legitmate electoral vote," and you slurpers are saying, yeah, right!
Trump is saying, in effect, "If nominated, I will be the next president, whether or not I win the legitimate electoral vote," and you slurpers are saying, "yeah! right!"
Trump is saying, in effect, "If nominated, I will be the next president, whether or not I win the legitimate electoral vote," and you slurpers are saying, "yeah! right!"
Jerry Dunleavy https://twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/1537885907260297216
UPDATE: DOJ IG Horowitz says the anti-Trump & anti-Barr social media posts by Timothy Thibault (FBI assistant special agent in charge at the D.C. Field Office) may have violated the Hatch Act & that this has been referred to the Office of Special Counsel.
Trump is saying, in effect, "If nominated, I will be the next president, whether or not I win the legitimate electoral vote," and you slurpers are saying, "yeah! right!"
Sorry Reverend...
are you just pulling this out of your fucking ass?
Or do you have some semblance of a quote or proof from Trump that he has said anything of those sort.
The fact that crazy people believe it... just makes them crazy. It does not make those that the crazy people accuse... actually guilty. Just because they acted especially crazy.
ABC NEWS: Up to 1,000 Ukrainian soldiers are being killed or wounded each day in the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine, with 200 to 500 killed daily on average and many more wounded, top Ukrainian official says.
Gerry Callahan @GerryCallahan
This is madness. The US is sending another $1 billion in weapons to escalate a war that is killing THOUSANDS while leaders of France, Italy, Germany plead for peace talks. Joe Biden never even MENTIONS negotiating an end to the fighting. He wants this. Just insane. https://twitter.com/GerryCallahan/status/1537784560028622851
Peter Navarro https://twitter.com/RealPNavarro/status/1537879451479855104
“For a misdemeanor charge in a white collar case involving process crime, handcuffs and leg irons are not order of the day,” Rowley said, Arrest/rapid announcement of charges “obviously done for the purpose of humiliating Mr. Navarro.”
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I think at this point even Jimmy Carter could challenge Biden to be the 2024 democrat candidate and win
Of course Trump or DeSantis would then demolish him
if our country lasts that long
Biden is now the enemy of the people
same as his buddies the FAKE NEWS and big tech
Let's assume this. But in two more years, if inflation drops to normal and the economy climbs back?
Wsj
Industrial production, which measures factory, mining and utility output, increased a seasonally adjusted 0.2% in May, the Fed said Friday, down sharply from a revised 1.4% increase the prior month. Manufacturing output dropped 0.1% last month, marking the first decline since January. Mining and utility output both rose, by 1.3% and 1%, respectively.
The easing of industrial output added to signs of an economic slowdown. Factories in the mid-Atlantic region saw diminished activity for the first time in two years this month, the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia said. Home construction in the U.S. declined in May, the Commerce Department said this week. Americans also pulled back spending at retailers for the first time this year in May, the Commerce Department said earlier this week.
“The pace at which everything is changing is quite alarming,” said Oren Klachkin, lead U.S. economist at Oxford Economics. He said the economy still stands on fairly solid ground that can withstand inflation, supply-chain issues and rising interest rates. “But there is certainly a risk of a recession here coming up,” he added.
More hypothetical IF statements from Roger. Useless. If the dog didn't stop to take a shit, he would've caught the rabbit.
Roger...
What matters right now is that we are in a dire economic situation and 90% of it is because of the birdbrained policies we have enacted over the past couple of years...
And yes... I also partially blame spending that was done for "Covid stimulus" under Trump as well. That being said, had we stopped it at the original stimulus or even reduced some of the following stimuluses, we would have been in a much better position. Probably limited inflation and no need to raise rates (which is what is also causing the upcoming Biden recession).
It was really that last 2 trillion dollar (unnecessary in many opinions) that drove us over the edge. But that still doesn't happen if not for the first trillion plus stimulus.
So... I have very little confidence that Biden knows his ass from a hole in the ground right now, much less has any competent plan for getting us out of this economic shithole. We might (as a matter or timing) be coming out of a recession in 2024. But I am not sure that a "recovery" from the Biden Recession is going to be boost Biden's chances.
Anonymous Myballsinthewoodsagain said...
More hypothetical IF statements from Roger. Useless. If the dog didn't stop to take a shit, he would've caught the rabbit.
It's his only hope for holding on to the white house. Locked away from reality it's easy for him to exist in a fantasy 'what if' delusion.
DeSantis Officially Announces Revival of WWII-Era 'Florida State Guard,' Touting 'Opportunity' for Unvaccinated People Booted from Military
I can’t wait to see him sworn in 01/20/2023
We have to define the terms.
Roger's Made up Economic Term Defined.
"Bottom-Up Economics " = Many More Americans live in poverty.
Devastating evidence indicates that Trump knew he lost -- so his actions were criminal
Jay Bookman, Georgia Recorder
June 17, 2022
We can’t know what’s happening inside the secret, special-purpose grand jury convened at the Fulton County Courthouse in Atlanta. We can’t hear the sworn testimony being given about Donald Trump’s multiple efforts to overturn the 2020 elections here in Georgia; we can’t read the documents being subpoenaed; we can’t know what revelations the investigation might be uncovering.
But up in Washington, D.C., a much more public process is playing out, much of it focused on the same set of facts, narratives and players that Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis is exploring here in Atlanta. And from that, we’re learning a lot.
For example, one of the core issues confronting Willis in her decision whether to prosecute Trump is the question of Trump’s intent. If the former president truly believed that he had carried Georgia and was simply trying to get an accurate vote count, then he committed no crime. But if he did know that he had lost the election but was trying to overturn it anyway, then this was indeed a coup attempt and prosecution is not only possible but necessary.
The famous phone call 📲 ☎️
Roger, lives for "If"
He would have stayed in College and gotten a degree.
His first wife hadn't cheated in him.
IF, he would have sold his house for a Million Dollars..
IF, HE would not have abused his 2nd wife.
IF, IF , IF....
Wrong thread asshole Roger.
Attempt to focus and stay in topic.
Leading indicators dropped sharply.
Joe blames the American People.
It was really that last 2 trillion dollar (unnecessary in many opinions) that drove us over the edge. But that still doesn't happen if not for the first trillion plus stimulus.
And this dumbass admin is only foiled by its own incompetence. Send out gas cards, ooops no chips because of this idiot admin shortages.
I will alkysplain this sending gas cards will further increase inflation
The White House is weighing sending Americans gas rebate cards, an idea they previously nixed because of chip shortages, report says
Leading economic indicators May -0.4%
Down, again.
There's no fucking way inflation comes under control soon enough to save FJB - or any other democrat - in 2024. Brandon has fucked us for a good long fucking time. Half a decade minimum.
Two changes to the inflation measure—one a one-time methodological change, and the other a long-running trend—explain much of the apparent difference in CPI rates between the late 1970s and today. The first comes from a 1983 move by the Bureau of Labor Statistics to remove homeownership costs from the CPI measurement and replace them with a metric called owners’ equivalent rent.
The new metric quantifies what homeowners would receive for their homes on the rental market. As one might expect, the metric closely tracks the rental market. (Rent is a separate component of the CPI.) Most importantly, shifting from homeownership costs to owners’ equivalent rent to calculate homeownership costs eliminated the direct effect of mortgage rates—and therefore interest rate policy—on calculating the rate of inflation.
Prior to the 1983 methodological change, the very direct link between interest rates and the homeownership component of the CPI magnified the effects of efforts to combat inflation. Consider the two possible scenarios:
1) The Federal Reserve raises interest rates to combat rising inflation. When interest rates go up, so do mortgage costs—and therefore the cost of homeownership, as reflected in the CPI. Paradoxically, a measure designed to mitigate the effects of rising prices actually increases them, at least with respect to one component of the CPI.
Conversely, when the Federal Reserve lowers interest rates, mortgage rates also fall in tandem, so the homeownership costs component of the CPI also declines. Rather than the vicious cycle of scenario one, this scenario would lead to a virtuous cycle, one in which declining inflation would allow the Fed to lower interest rates—which would lower CPI still further.
2) Summers and his co-authors argue that the “interest rate CPI ratchet” (my words, not theirs) of scenario one helped lead to the double-digit inflation rates of the late 1970s and early 1980s. While the 1983 change to the methodology means we will no longer see this “ratchet” in the monthly inflation statistics—which explains why inflation hasn’t risen above 10 percent—it also means we won’t benefit from the benefits of scenario two (i.e., a downward “ratchet”) once inflation starts to get under control.
https://thefederalist.com/2022/06/16/study-from-former-treasury-secretary-finds-inflation-is-much-worse-than-the-government-claims/
It has been said, but bears repeating.
Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Lea Sinema both US Senators kept the Bidenomics nuking of the US Citizens from being far worse.
Dumbest. Admin. EVER –> Biden White House’s SUPER GENIUS plan to offset gas costs for Americans FOILED by another crisis THEY created
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/06/17/dumbest-admin-ever-biden-white-houses-super-genius-plan-to-offset-gas-costs-for-americans-foiled-by-another-crisis-they-created/
Thanks cali for seeing this.
I can't wait to see the alky try to convince us that this abject stupidity is not inflationary.
Lets see IF Roger can tell us in his own words.
Q, How does Biden reduce inflation and keep us out of recession and keep peoole employed and grow real net wages and get gasoline prices down, oh and stop food shortages?
The famous phone call 📲 ☎️
Well Roger...
If you listened to the entire phone call...
It is crystal clear that Trump believed he won!
He believed that there were fraudulent votes that Georgia was not willing to look into deeper and that they needed to find those fraudulent votes.
Once again the problem is that in a REAL TRIAL
You don't get to edit and censor the materials you don't want included. You don't get to pick and choose which portions of a transcript are used because it creates a better narrative.
The ENTIRE phone call would be placed into evidence. And it would truly show that Trump thought he won! Despite what some of you tend to believe based on the innuendo of edited materials.
A Man and a Mob
June 17, 2022 at 3:53 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard Leave a Comment
Andrew Sullivan:
There are simply no precedents in history for this kind of assault on the core principles of the American republic.
None.
And there is no precedent for a president, having been exposed as a fantasist, to carry on, insisting that his fever dream remains reality,
attacking the very legitimacy of our democracy, day after day.
The idea that he could run again
— or again become president —
could only be entertained by those who wish to end the American experiment.
Peruse the 12-page letter Trump put out in response to the hearings.
It is the work of someone with no grip on reality,
absurd lie after lie after lie,
barely literate,
the kind of thing you’d think was written by a lunatic if you received it in the mail.
Any other president would have conceded on election night.
Others with a real case (unlike Trump’s)
— Nixon in 1960, Gore in 2000 —
knew what their duty was.
They cared more about the republic than themselves
— a concept simply outside Trump’s cognition.
In four years, he never acted as a president.
He only ever acted as Trump.
“In the bitter end, he was just a man with a mob.
Not a Republican.
Not a politician.
Not a president.
Not a member of any political party
but his own cult.
A mindless, raging, bullying thug.
The hearings have methodically and calmly revealed this,
masterfully led by a Republican, Liz Cheney,
through testimony supplied by Republican after Republican witness.”
The idea that he could run again
— or again become president —
could only be entertained by those who wish to end the American experiment.
Actually the idea that he could be chosen by the GOP voters to run again and by the larger cross section of American voters and become President again..
Is 100% what Democracy is.
Literally the definition of it.
The only "experiment" that would be ending is the one being waged by the crazies on the left trying to disqualify someone from running again by running non-stop investigations, commissions, and hearings.
It was really that last 2 trillion dollar (unnecessary in many opinions) that drove us over the edge.
Yep.
And it was that last $2T where Karma hit. FJB fancied himself the next FDR, but instead he found himself feeling the Karma of 'the steal.'
Dishonest, indecent, untruthful Rev. said...
There are simply no precedents in history for this kind of assault on the core principles of the American republic.
Are we talking about the "big guy" Hunter and the infamous laptop again
The one that over 50 "intelligence" officers said was Russian disinformation
as did Joe
which interfered with the 2020 election
and put the "big guy" in charge of his stormtroopers ?
and was later admitted to be Hunter's and not propaganda
unlike the show trial
DOJ official 'emphatic that Garland can and will prosecute' Trump allies over Jan. 6
An investigative reporter who recently spent time with a Justice Department official said he was "optimistic" that former President Donald Trump and his allies will be held accountable for their attack on democracy.
David Rohde, the online news director for The New Yorker, told MSNBC's "Morning Joe" that the House select committee hearings were producing important evidence that could deliver a political and legal blow to the former president.
"I met with a Justice Department official recently and they said they are emphatic that [attorney general Merrick] Garland can and will prosecute if there's enough evidence," Rohde said. "They have pointed back to his speech in January that said he will follow every lead and also the speech he gave at Harvard, a graduation speech about public service, but he talked to that class about the importance of defending democracy. But I do think the Justice Department sees it as a last resort.
"A member of the Judiciary Committee told me they're trying to defeat Donald Trump politically first, what happens at the ballot box," Rohde added. "But the $250 million, $1 million of that going to an organization run by Mark Meadows, lying to people to raise money, not using it for the purpose you promised. So I think that's another angle for a very clear answer, more cut and dried possible prosecution."
The risk with a criminal prosecution would be proving intent, Rohde said, which might be difficult to do for the notoriously slippery Trump.
"Donald Trump is very clever about hinting what he wants, signaling what he wants but not having that definitive proof, so there's a huge desire among people, skeptics of Trump or even people who fear him for a prosecution," Rohde said. "But the bar is much higher for a criminal prosecution and, again, I don't think we know yet what Merrick Garland is going to do, but it's a very serious thing to do it. It's a last resort, I think. What if Donald Trump is put on trial and acquitted?"
But he said both the House Select Committee and the Justice Department understand that some action must be taken in response to the insurrection.
"It's a hell of a moment," he said. "I mean, if we can't agree on election results, we're looking at chaos and civil war, and I've covered this before, and people resorting to political violence is a very dangerous thing for the country, so I think it's an option. Prosecution is necessary if you defy election results."
"I'm optimistic," Rohde added. "I'm impressed with the job that the Jan. 6 committee is doing. They're elected politicians, they're informing voters and producing new information on what the president did."
* btw where is Garland on charging Joe and Hunter on all the crimes the laptop revealed ?
Reverend...
Let's just cut through the bullshit and get to the truth.
All of this Jan 6th commission, Fulton County, and every other of the 101 investigations into Trump are about one thing... and one thing only.
The scared to the bone, all blood gone from your face, utter terror of the idea that American public will choose to make Donald Trump YOUR President again.
That is 100% what it is about... The rest is utter bullshit.
* or is Garland just a stooge brought in to protect the "big guy" and Hunter ?
wink, wink
you know the drill...
C.H. Truth said...
Reverend...
Let's just cut through the bullshit and get to the truth.
the lying POS "pastor" can't handle the truth
never could
but he is proud to be called pedo
or so he says
and wants to assassinate Tucker Carlson
without a blindfold
or a last cigarette
pretty descriptive and sick for a man of the cloth
Expert: Merrick Garland is ‘paralyzed’ with fear — but the ‘snowball effect’ will compel DOJ action
Attorney General Merrick Garland has not yet charged Donald Trump for his conspiracy to overturn the federal election, but one MSNBC legal analyst believes there will eventually be justice in the case.
On Saturday, anchor Ayman Mohyeldin interviewed former federal prosecutor Cynthia Alksne about the case following the first prime-time hearing by the House Select Committee Investigating the Jan. 6 Attack on the U.S. Capitol.
Mohyeldin noted Alksne has been pessimistic about justice coming.
"I am the big pessimist, I admit it," Alksne said. "I feel like I'm always saying it's raining, it's raining, nothing is ever going to happen.
"I am very concerned that the attorney general is so conservative and so protective of the Department of Justice that he's paralyzed. I admit, that is where I am."
But she went on to explain why she is hopeful.
"I will say this, because the subpoena had gone out in the elector case, and they are beginning to ask questions of the electors, it drives me crazy that they are not in a grand jury yet, but these big subpoenas have begun. The only way to investigate that case is to discover that [John] Eastman plotted that. And as you're doing those questions and asking about Eastman, what else did Eastman do? He is the one that comes out with the [Mike] Pence pressure campaign.
"So I think that the snowball effect is going to require the Department of Justice to actually do something. And so the snowball is what is giving me a little optimism and puts a little smile on my face for the first time," she said.
The only "experiment" that would be ending is the one being waged by the crazies on the left trying to disqualify someone from running again by running non-stop investigations, commissions, and hearings.
FJB is doing a bang-up job of crushing the American experiment for millions. Crushing it with thoughtcrimes, newspeak, censorship on a scale never before seen...
...couple that with the economic utter destruction and devastation he's caused, forcing so many out of retirement and back into the work force. Forcing folks to choose between gas and food because they can't afford both, and literally starving American infants, all due to sheer, staggering incompetence.
The searing hatred that America has developed for FJB is real and palpable.
And he deserves every fucking bit of it... times ten.
Speaking of Fulton county they fucked up last month’s primary
Exclusive: Fulton County Gets Busted Certifying False Election Results!
Ex-Dominion employee Dominic Olomo refuses to show election records to Fulton County election officials
https://emeralddb3.substack.com/p/exclusive-fulton-county-gets-busted
Hey CHT, your spam filter is not working again !!!
the lying POS "pastor" has figured a way around it
or it is malfunctioning.
but it is exposing him as being bat shit insane
ROFLMFAO !!!
FJB is doing a bang-up job of crushing the American experiment for millions. Crushing it with thoughtcrimes, newspeak, censorship on a scale never before seen...
What's amazing is that he is still polling in the thirties on favorability
the swamp must be very deep
or people are afraid to answer polls accurately
The risk with a criminal prosecution would be proving intent, Rohde said, which might be difficult to do for the notoriously slippery Trump.
That is the "risk" or the reason he has not been charged?
But in reality... that is the ONE main missing part of the puzzle. To prove that while Trump didn't commit any individual crimes per sea that there was some larger mens rea to commit a larger fraud or larger conspiracy...
The Jan 6th commission has gotten us no closer to that. Certainly not in any criminal trial provable manner.
The Jan 6th commission has gotten us no closer to that. Certainly not in any criminal trial provable manner.
Well it's only been a year and a half
Look what Joes accomplished in a year and a half
For him I guess it's "Mission Accomplished"
America has taken a huge hit
deliberately
from day 1
and continuing
Merrick Garland has more than enough evidence to indict Donald Trump
I know you've heard this before--that accountability is coming for Donald Trump and his cronies for triggering the Jan. 6th insurrection--but this time, something new and different has happened. On March 28, Federal District Court Judge David O. Carter ruled that Trump and former Chapman University law professor John Eastman "more likely than not" committed two felonies in their efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election: obstruction of an official proceeding of Congress, and conspiracy to defraud the United States.
Carter's ruling runs 44 pages and is meticulously detailed. Among other events, it chronicles Eastman's role in drafting two memos for the Trump campaign that set forth a plan to nullify the Electoral College votes in seven swing states when Congress met in joint session on Jan 6, 2021 to certify Joe Biden's victory. The ruling also summarizes Eastman's meetings with Trump, Vice President Mike Pence and other White House officials to execute the plan, as well as Trump's infamous phone call to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger.
Subject to further appeals, the ruling ends a lawsuit Eastman filed to prevent the House Select Committee investigating the insurrection from obtaining 111 emails he had sent or received on his Chapman email account between November 3, 2020 and January 20, 2021. Eastman argued the emails are protected from disclosure under the attorney-client privilege. The committee argued the emails fall within the "crime-fraud exception," which holds that the privilege does not cover communications made with the intent to further or conceal a crime. Carter ordered Eastman to turn over 101 of the emails, finding the crime-fraud exception applied.
Although Carter's decision only affects Eastman directly, it has profound implications for both Trump and Attorney General Merrick Garland, the nation's top law-enforcement officer. In words that surely will get Garland's attention, Carter wrote:
"The illegality of the plan [to overturn the election] was obvious. Our nation was founded on the peaceful transition of power, epitomized by George Washington laying down his sword to make way for democratic elections. Ignoring this history, President Trump vigorously campaigned for the Vice President to single-handedly determine the results of the 2020 election. As Vice President Pence stated [at the time], 'no Vice President in American history has ever asserted such authority.' Every American—and certainly the President of the United States—knows that in a democracy, leaders are elected, not installed. With a plan this 'BOLD,' President Trump knowingly tried to subvert this fundamental principle."
Carter's ruling marks the first time a sitting judge has found that that Trump likely violated federal criminal law. And while the likelihood finding falls well below the reasonable-doubt standard that must be met to secure a criminal conviction, it is more exacting than the probable-cause standard Department of Justice lawyers use to decide when to recommend or commence prosecutions. The probable-cause test is also used by federal grand juries use to decide whether to return indictments.
Merrick Garland not ruling out prosecuting Donald Trump
One year into his term as U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland is once again responding to an almost overwhelming call from the left and from some Democratic elected officials – including the House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack – to prosecute Donald Trump, the former president.
And in a rare moment the former Chief Judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit is answering his critics – very carefully – but serving up essentially the same response as he did earlier.
“We are not avoiding cases that are political or cases that are controversial or sensitive,” Garland told NPR in an interview published Thursday. “What we are avoiding is making decisions on a political basis, on a partisan basis.”
The Select Committee investigating the attack on the Capitol, the insurrection, and the assault on our very democracy last week filed in court what prosecutors might see as damning felony charges against Donald Trump, including “criminal conspiracy to defraud the United States,” and corrupt obstruction of an official proceeding.
Garland explained the DOJ’s process:
“We begin with the cases that are right in front of us with the overt actions and then we build from there. And that is a process that we will continue to build until we hold everyone accountable who committed criminal acts with respect to January 6.”
In January, facing criticism from those who believe Trump and his associates should be charged and questioning why they have not been, Garland said:
“The Justice Department remains committed to holding all January 6 perpetrators at any level accountable under law, whether they were present that day or were otherwise criminally responsible for the assault on our democracy.”
Today, those looking for signs that Trump will face justice might take some solace in Garland’s non-committal hint: “This had to do with the interference with the peaceful transfer of power from one administration to another. And it doesn’t get more important than that.”
AND IT DOESN'T GET MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT.
Actually the idea that he could be chosen by the GOP voters to run again and
BWAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! never has such a minority of voters had so much to lose!!!!!!!!!
something new and different has happened. On March 28, Federal District Court Judge David O. Carter ruled that Trump and former Chapman University law professor John Eastman "more likely than not" committed two felonies in their efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election: obstruction of an official proceeding of Congress, and conspiracy to defraud the United States.
Hmmmm....
It's June 17th.
March 28th is not new and that argument is not "different'.
But let me Scottsplain this to you...
This was a "civil" trial. The judge made a call (questionable in the eyes of many) that given the evidence that was presented to him that it was "more likely than not" (preponderance of evidence) that Trump committed a crime and that the Attorney Client privilege was voided.
What the Judge didn't do is say that Trump was likely to be found guilty of any crime "beyond a reasonable doubt" because that had nothing to do with the situation.
Also... Trump was not represented by counsel and therefore the Judge "only" considered the prosecutors version of events.
So this was a one sided situation where evidence of a so-called crime was presented with no ability for the accused to provide any sort of defense or rebuttal.
The threshold is not beyond a reasonable doubt in civil trials, but a preponderance of evidence. Entirely different concepts.
So even if you believe the Judge made the correct call...
That doesn't mean that Trump would be found guilty of a crime OR does it mean that a prosecutor would believe (based on that opinion which would be inadmissible to a criminal proceeding) that it brings prosecution any closer to being able to secure "guilty beyond reasonable doubt".
Understand???
Or are you not keeping up?
You have your talking points 👉
Former President Donald Trump on Friday fired back at the House select committee investigating the events of Jan. 6, 2021.
"There's no clearer example of the menacing spirit that has devoured the American left than the disgraceful performance being staged by the unselect committee," Trump said at a conference hosted by the Faith and Freedom Coalition in Nashville, Tennessee.
"They're con people," Trump continued. "They're con artists."
The committee has held three of the seven public hearings scheduled for this month, laying out what it says was a "sophisticated, seven-part plan" by Trump and his supporters to overturn his 2020 election loss to Joe Biden.
Trump was well aware of the fact that he lost, the committee argued, using testimony from members of his inner circle. But he moved ahead anyway with an illegal plot to remain in power and raised millions of dollars in the process of pushing the "big lie" that he was the real winner.
CH: "That doesn't mean that Trump would be found guilty of a crime OR(sic, should be nor) does it mean that a prosecutor would believe (based on that opinion which would be inadmissible to a criminal proceeding) that it brings prosecution any closer to being able to secure "guilty beyond reasonable doubt".
Understand???
Or are you not keeping up?
______
Are you keeping up with what Judge J. Michael Luggit and others are now saying?
Roger...
How do you explain Trump's favorabilities going "up" since the hearings started? You know, if everything is going so swimmingly for the commission?
Are you keeping up with what Judge J. Michael Luggit and others are now saying?
Sure... and they sound like the sky if falling, crazed paranoid lunatics who predict the end of the world if the wrong person is elected President again.
Let's be clear. If Trump is elected President again in 2024 and there is social unrest, violence, bombings, and fighting in the streets... all the things these that are being suggested..
That will be on those of you who decide to act like the Jan 6th protesters and use violence versus patriotic and peaceful protests.
It will not be on those who used the Democratic process to elect a President.
Are you keeping up with what Judge J. Michael Luggit and others are now saying?
How could we not, pederast?
Luggit's opinions are not federal charges.
Let us know when that happens. My bet if NEVER.
Go rape another child and drop another $20 in the collection plate of the North American Man-Boy Lincoln Project.
J. Michael Luttig, a former federal judge and conservative legal expert who advised former Vice President Mike Pence during his time in office, forcefully dismantled the theory that Pence could overturn the results of the 2020 election during his June 16 testimony June 16 before the House Jan. 6 committee.
Luttig explained to the committee that in his opinion, the theory that the vice president had any power in overturning the result of the election during Congress’ official count of electoral votes was not only wrong, but also dangerous.
“The declaration of Donald Trump as the next president would have plunged America into what I believe would have been tantamount to a revolution within a constitutional crisis in America,” Luttig told the committee.
He described in thorough detail the constitutional basis for the vice president counting the electoral votes on Jan. 6, and said that in his view, the text is “pristine clear.”
“There was no basis in the constitution or laws of the United States at all for the theory espoused by Mr. Eastman. At all. None,” Luttig said.
He also said that on Jan. 6, the vice president had “little substantive constitutional authority, if any at all” over Congress’ proceedings.
According to CNN, Pence’s personal lawyer, Richard Cullen, contacted Luttig asking him to provide a legal argument to rebut Eastman, who had once been Luttig’s clerk. Luttig published a tweet thread the day before the Jan. 6 insurrection on whether Pence as vice president had the ability to change the way Electoral College votes were counted. Luttig concluded that Pence did not.
“The only responsibility and power of the Vice President under the Constitution is to faithfully count the electoral college votes as they have been cast,” Luttig wrote.
According to testimony by Luttig and others, Eastman argued that earlier vice presidents had taken action similar to what Eastman was proposing.
But Luttig rebuffed the idea that there has been any historical precedent for the vice president rejecting electoral votes, calling that theory the “root of what I have called the blueprint to overturn the 2020 election.”
“I would have laid my body across the road before I would have let the vice president overturn the 2020 election on the basis of that historical precedent,” he said.
In his final statement, Luttig said he believes Trump and his supporters are a “clear and present danger to American democracy.”
He said he’s worried that Trump or his “anointed successor” would try to overturn the results of the 2024 election should they not win.
“I do not speak these words lightly. I would have never spoken these words ever in my life, except that’s what the former president and his allies are telling us,” he said.
That will be on those of you who decide to act like the Jan 6th protesters
WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE CURRENT MO OF THE GOP COUNTRY WIDE!!!!!!!!! The wrath and fear of the white man drives many to do stupid things especially trump supporters!!!!! How try tried to push the left were evil Lil Schitty as the right's constant plotting to overthrow democracy should concern even an idiot like you!!!!!
Charlie Spiering
https://twitter.com/Oilfield_Rando/status/1537883458889916416
Biden leaves the White House at 11:00 AM for his vacation home in Rehoboth Beach
Oilfield Rando
@Oilfield_Rando
I might be more inclined to take a guy more seriously on his climate concerns if he didn’t drag a convoy of military jets and helicopters to the beach every weekend.
Well he's still way to busy to go to the border
while the stock market is crashing
inflation is soaring
food is running short
gas is through the rook and electricity costs are following
war and threats of war are breaking out everywhere
drug deaths have skyrocketed
and Joe even managed to jog to the helicopter
couldn't wait to get away
no naptime today
its playtime !!!
Trump is saying, in effect,
"If nominated, I will be the next president
whether or not I win the legitmate electoral vote,"
and you slurpers are saying,
yeah, right!
legitimate
Trump is saying, in effect,
"If nominated, I will be the
next president, whether or
not I win the legitimate
electoral vote,"
and you slurpers are saying,
"yeah! right!"
"How do you explain Trump's favorabilities going "up" since the hearings started?" CHT
Trump is saying, in effect,
"If nominated, I will be the
next president, whether or
not I win the legitimate
electoral vote,"
and you slurpers are saying,
"yeah! right!"
The Three Socialist Stooges of CHT can not debate Bidenomics, too painful is the complete Failures.
Food Crisis: Poland Pokes Holes in Biden Plan to Access Ukrainian Grain.
Jammie, you told us a plan.
Like this one, remember, i do.
FUCK OFF GOAT FUCKER.....YOU DEBATE LIKE A TYPICAL 2 YEAR OLD RETARD WITH A LOAD OF SHIT IN HIS PANTS!!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAA
When are going to stop lying "pastor"
well at your age it's way too late anyway
You did say you are proud to be called pedo
so you are saying, in effect,
you are proud to be raping boys
as you slurp up whatever the left feeds you
I'm learning the "pastor's" writing style
though I find it odd for a supposed "man of the cloth"
Jerry Dunleavy
https://twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/1537885907260297216
UPDATE: DOJ IG Horowitz says the anti-Trump & anti-Barr social media posts by Timothy Thibault (FBI assistant special agent in charge at the D.C. Field Office) may have violated the Hatch Act & that this has been referred to the Office of Special Counsel.
https://washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/fbi-official-violated-hatch-act-anti-trump-posts
Looks like everyone in DC is crooked
including the DOJ, FBI, judges and juries
Banana Republic
Trump is saying, in effect,
"If nominated, I will be the
next president, whether or
not I win the legitimate
electoral vote,"
and you slurpers are saying,
"yeah! right!"
Sorry Reverend...
are you just pulling this out of your fucking ass?
Or do you have some semblance of a quote or proof from Trump that he has said anything of those sort.
The fact that crazy people believe it... just makes them crazy. It does not make those that the crazy people accuse... actually guilty. Just because they acted especially crazy.
You do realize that you sound bonafide crazy?
NEW VIDEO: President Joe Biden blames everybody but himself for inflation, high gas prices, high grocery prices, and a crashing stock market.
VIDEO:
https://twitter.com/anangbhai/status/1537854613717667840
Funny, when Joe took office he said he would take responsibility for what he did
I guess he meant responsibility for passing the buck
while never skipping long weekends
well 6% of Americans still agree with Joe about Putin
including the Joe slurpers here
are you just pulling this out of your fucking ass?
KINDA LIKE YOU WITH THE TRUMP WON MANTRA!!!!!!!!!N. BWAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
ABC NEWS: Up to 1,000 Ukrainian soldiers are being killed or wounded each day in the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine, with 200 to 500 killed daily on average and many more wounded, top Ukrainian official says.
Gerry Callahan
@GerryCallahan
This is madness. The US is sending another $1 billion in weapons to escalate a war that is killing THOUSANDS while leaders of France, Italy, Germany plead for peace talks. Joe Biden never even MENTIONS negotiating an end to the fighting. He wants this. Just insane.
https://twitter.com/GerryCallahan/status/1537784560028622851
Hey Joe is VERY focused
on his weekend beach vacation
Peter Navarro
https://twitter.com/RealPNavarro/status/1537879451479855104
“For a misdemeanor charge in a white collar case involving process crime, handcuffs and leg irons are not order of the day,” Rowley said, Arrest/rapid announcement of charges “obviously done for the purpose of humiliating Mr. Navarro.”
Joe Biden's America
He will send out his stormtroopers
and don't think about disturbing his weekend
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