Polling Data
| Poll | Date | Sample | MoE | Trump (R) | Biden (D) | Spread |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| RCP Average | 6/28 - 7/20 | -- | -- | 44.5 | 42.5 | Trump +2.0 |
| Emerson | 7/19 - 7/20 | 1078 RV | 2.9 | 46 | 43 | Trump +3 |
| Trafalgar Group (R) | 7/11 - 7/14 | 1085 LV | 2.9 | 48 | 43 | Trump +5 |
| NY Times/Siena | 7/5 - 7/7 | 849 RV | 4.1 | 41 | 44 | Biden +3 |
| Harvard-Harris | 6/28 - 6/29 | 1308 RV | -- | 43 | 40 | Trump +3 |
198 comments:
You actually want Trump to run for President.
You actually WANT TRUMP for President.
Why do you hate America and the world and yourself that much?
And why do you want to continue to do that much damage to the Republican Party?
The Mob Did Exactly What Trump Wanted Them to Do
July 22, 2022 at 10:31 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 28 Comments
Charlie Sykes:
“As Capitol police battled rioters,
Secret Service agents feared for their lives,
and legislators fled to safety,
the President of the United States sat in his dining room and refused pleas to call it off.
"For hours, he watched television,
never once calling the Defense Department,
the D.C. National Guard,
or anyone else in law enforcement.
“Instead he dialed senators urging them to delay the certification of the presidential vote.
And amidst the height of the chaos and the terror,
he inflamed the mob he had sent by sending out a tweet attacking his own vice president.
“Please let all of that settle in.”
“Trump didn’t call off the mob, because it was doing precisely what he wanted;
and he was using the delay caused by the attack to lobby his allies to help execute his coup.
"Only when it was apparent that the assault on the Capitol had failed,
did he bother to call off his Insurrection.
And, as we saw on his ‘blooper reel’ last night,
he refused to say that the election was over,
even after the violence,
and after the congressional vote to certify Joe Biden’s victory.”
Biden has the Third term of Obimbo lost years right on track.
Reviving "unexpected " into the economic reports.
The drop was unexpected, as the consensus was a gain of 1 points.
In fact the index drop 5.7 points.
"S&P Global U.S. services PMI (flash) July. 47.0"
Reverend....
More people in this country want Trump than Biden.
When you come to your senses and get past your TDS...
Maybe you can figure out why that is true.
In the meantime, enjoy $6/gallon gas, 9.1% inflation, less disposable income, a war in Ukraine, out of control crime, supply chain issues, and the upcoming recession...
You got what you wanted when you voted for the idiot who smart people knew would "actually" destroy the country (not just the minds of liberals).
Sometimes things are not about your feelings, Reverend.
Sometimes adults have real tangible concerns that are not politically made up nonsense.
President Joe Failure
Promised "economic pain"
He is delivering .
Economically President Joe Failure may have clocked in his worse week of his failed Presidency.
Sometimes things are indeed about how more and more people are FEELING about Trump,
including many Republicans who,
unlike you,
are realizing that
if they stay with him,
they will sink with him.
And by the way,
Biden may not be the Dem nominee,
for he may realize that,
for the good of his nation
and his party,
he will throw open the primaries to all potential Dem candidates.
Why is it good for Socialist Democrats to have Biden not run?
No indication Biden is not Running.
Greg Orman
July 20, 2022
While traveling in the Middle East last Tuesday, President Biden responded to a reporter’s question about the 2024 presidential election. The president suggested that he “would not be disappointed” to have a rematch of the 2020 race.
Trump releases statement admitting his scheme to overturn the 2020 election
Bob Brigham
July 21, 2022
As the Jan. 6 select committee presented damning evidence of Donald Trump allowing his violent coup attempt to continue for 187 minutes, Donald Trump basically admitted to seditious conspiracy on his Truth Social website.
In his statement, Trump admitted he wanted Vice President Mike Pence to reject the valid electors in multiple states in violation of the Constitution.
And then he went on to admit the goal was to overturn the 2020 presidential election, which was won by Joe Biden.
"This may have proven to be an election-changing event," Trump admitted before attacking Biden.
"What a difference it would have made if state legislatures had another crack at looking at all of the fraud, abuse, and irregularities that have been found," Trump said, even though all his delusions had been thoroughly debunked and laughed out of court by Jan. 6.
As Trump issued his Truth Social statement, the select committee was hearing testimony about his refusal to issue an adequate statement on Jan. 6
https://twitter.com/January6thCmte/status/1550292355210698757?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1550292355210698757%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rawstory.com%2Ftrump-2657710674%2F
Three Days ago
President Joe Failure is running.
"Biden’s associates say he will feel compelled to run if Trump does. If that rematch materializes, Biden said recently, ‘I would not be disappointed.’
Neither one of those will be nominated in 2024.
Biden will be 83 and Trump almost 80.
But good news
President Biden's coronavirus symptoms "have improved" after completing first full day taking Pfizer's antiviral pill, Paxlovid, his physician said in a letter on Friday.
Driving the news: Biden was given Tylenol to treat his 99.4 fever overnight, to which he "responded favorably." His symptoms remain a runny nose and cough, and "[h]is pulse, blood pressure, respiratory rate and oxygen saturation remain entirely normal," the letter states.
Kevin O'Connor, Biden's physician, said that the president will continue to take Paxlovid as planned.
Catch up fast: Biden tested positive for COVID on Thursday, and the White House said he has "very mild" symptoms.
The president said in a video that he's "doing well, getting a lot of work done."
What he's saying: "As I stated previously, the President is fully vaccinated and twice-boosted, so I anticipate that he will respond favorably, as most maximally protected patients do," O'Connor said.
"There has been nothing in the course of his illness thus far which gives me cause to alter that initial expectation.""He will isolate in accordance with Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommendations, and we will continue to monitor him closely, during his very common outpatient treatment regimen."
Sometimes things are indeed about how more and more people are FEELING about Trump, including many Republicans who
Again Reverend... I don't have much for personal feelings for either Trump or Biden. In fact, whether or not I "LIKE" either of them personally has ZERO effect on my opinions about their competency as President.
As and adult in the real world...
I worry about the economy, inflation, crime, out of control illegal immigration, the cancel culture, and the destruction of our society with the "woke" rot that people like you bow to.
I don't believe that "my" feelings matter anymore than "your" feelings. Your precious little "feelings" don't lower gas prices, get inflation under control, stop the Russians, or prevent crime...
In fact... the odd thing about it is that you willingly accept all of this carnage as long as your feelings about the "bad orange man" are satisfied.
Maybe if you had children who are trying to enter this society you might think differently.
Because of your IED you will never recover from TLS.
Biden inherited a national crisis, but unfortunately I don't think that he has done a great job.
The medical crisis is almost over except that changing viruses and Monkey pox.
But you should reconsider about Trump if you read this 🙄
https://www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-2025-radical-plan-second-term
When I talk about feelings, I do not mean merely feelings of liking or disliking someone personally. I mean feelings in the deeper and broader sense of how one feels about someone's aptness for a political position of leadership, and how one feels about what is needed for the political leadership of our nation in times like these.
Trump has lost and is continuing to lose many of those who FELT that he was right about so much that he was wrong about, and who FELT that he was being honest about his desire to do good for this nation when it is now so very clear that he was always interested only in advancing himself and his corrupt agenda of misleading average people into thinking he and his rich cronies were for them, when they are only in politics for themselves.
He would put loyalists in every institution.
Classic fascism.
They Knew Exactly Who Trump Was
July 22, 2022 at 11:35 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 5 Comments
Gloria Borger:
“It’s hard, of course, to choose among the striking revelations in the last episode of season one of the January 6 hearings, but how about this: Top staffers knew exactly who Donald Trump was, and decided to remain anyway.
“It’s an argument we heard over and over again throughout recent years: Yeah, I coulda left this guy, but I thought it was better to stay so I could be part of the guardrails around Trump.
“But here’s what we learned during these hearings:
There were no guardrails around the then-President, and certainly none strong enough to contain his election fraud mania.
"In fact, Trump busted through them with great regularity.
"And when he didn’t (as in deciding not to fire his deputy attorney general and replace him with an election denier), it was only because he was told it would look bad for him if his entire Justice Department resigned.
“So what we saw instead was a group of people dealing with a man they KNEW to be morally, intellectually and emotionally unfit for the office.”
They FELT that because the KNEW that because they had SEEN that.
The committee is also aware that certain Secret Service witnesses have now retained new private counsel. We anticipate further testimony, under oath, and other new information in the coming weeks.”
— Rep. Elaine Luria (D-VA), at last night’s January 6 Committee hearing.
He has corrupted the Secret Service.
Why did Roger's last post disappear?
for he may realize that,
LMAO
He doesn’t know what day it is, you stupid old man
Because it bothered him 🙄
The Wall Street Journal used one word to sew doubt but the rest of it was very interesting. I will link it.
WASHINGTON—In a series of eight televised hearings, the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the Capitol sought to paint a damning picture of a president willing to incite a mob to hang on to power after running out of options in reversing his election defeat.
The hearings, spanning about six weeks, laid out the committee’s case that the attack was the “culmination of an attempted coup,” as Chairman Bennie Thompson (D., Miss.) characterized it in his opening remarks in early June. The hearings shined a spotlight on dozens of witnesses, many speaking publicly for the first time, who testified that then-President Donald Trump leaned on state officials, the Justice Department, his own vice president and ultimately his most fervent supporters to try to stay in office.
The examination of Mr. Trump’s actions could deepen the former president’s legal peril, putting him at risk in a parallel Justice Department probe of drawing possible charges such as fraud, inciting a riot or obstructing the election’s certification, legal observers have said. The revelations could also weigh on Mr. Trump’s political aspirations as he considers another run for president, and have fueled efforts in Congress to clarify legislatively the vice president’s role in certifying the election.
In some of the hearings’ most significant new testimony, a former White House aide, Cassidy Hutchinson, said Mr. Trump knew that members of the crowd at his midday speech on Jan. 6 were armed when he urged them to march to the Capitol to try to stop lawmakers from certifying Joe Biden’s win. After some members of the crowd turned violent, Mr. Trump waited hours to call them off.
Mr. Trump has said he did nothing wrong and has called the select committee a witch hunt. After Thursday’s hearing, Mr. Trump criticized the proceedings and some of the testimony presented. “So many lies and misrepresentations,” he wrote on his social-media network, Truth Social.
The committee includes two Republicans, Reps. Liz Cheney of Wyoming, who serves as vice chairwoman, and Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, both political opponents of Mr. Trump. After House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) rejected several proposed GOP members, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R., Calif.) boycotted the panel. That move has allowed Republican critics to paint the committee as partisan but has also kept GOP lawmakers from playing an active role in the proceedings.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/jan-6-hearings-sought-to-paint-fuller-picture-of-trumps-effort-to-stay-in-power-11658498422?st=pzyccahc54qv2y1&reflink=share_mobilewebshare
He has removed me again
The WSJ tried to please Trump.
Jan. 6 Hearings Sought to Paint Fuller Picture of Trump’s Effort to Stay in Power
During span of about six weeks, witnesses testified that former president pressured state officials, Justice Department and vice president
https://www.wsj.com/articles/jan-6-hearings-sought-to-paint-fuller-picture-of-trumps-effort-to-stay-in-power-11658498422?st=pzyccahc54qv2y1&reflink=share_mobilewebshare
Thanks for the link. It's always informative to see posts that Ch doesn't want us to see.
They will not let him get away but they won't prosecuted him soon.
But already, the committee has presented evidence that lawmakers and aides have suggested could be used as a foundation for bringing a criminal case against the former president. Among the possible charges that have been discussed are conspiracy to defraud the American people and obstructing an official proceeding of Congress. The committee has also raised the prospect of witness tampering, announcing at its last hearing that Trump had attempted to contact a witness cooperating with its investigation.
“The facts are clear and unambiguous,” Thompson said on Thursday.
The Justice Department is pursuing a separate investigation into the breach of the Capitol.
A federal judge has said Trump “more likely than not” committed federal crimes in his efforts to delay or disrupt the congressional count of electoral college votes on January 6.
But legal experts are divided over whether the evidence shown during the hearings is enough to charge Trump. No former president has ever been prosecuted by the justice department. And in this era of polarization, there are risks that both charging Trump – or declining to do so – could further undermine Americans faith in their system of justice.
Advertisement
The attorney general, Merrick Garland, under immense pressure by Democrats to act, has not said whether he is considering a case against Trump.
“No person is above the law in this country,” he said Wednesday. “I can’t say it any more clearly than that.”
What is Roger talking about, I see no removed posts
This week Economic Reports confirm Bidenomics has failed Americans and we are in a Recession
🔥 Joe Failure 🔥
Leading economic indicators June
Down -0.8%
How can you see posts if they have been removed by the facilitator?
The only reason to disagree with this, is if you believe the big lie 😪.
Yahoo News
Thursday’s primetime hearing of the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the U.S. Capitol shined an unflattering light on then-President Donald Trump’s reaction to the violent riot waged by his supporters.
Committee members Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., and Rep. Elaine Luria, D-Va., walked viewers through a minute-by-minute recap of how Trump spent the hours that the riot raged, relying heavily on testimony from a variety of witnesses who were in the White House that day, including former national security adviser Matthew Pottinger and former White House deputy press secretary Sarah Matthews, both of whom testified in person on Capitol Hill.
The gripping presentation focused on the 187 minutes between the end of Trump’s Jan. 6 speech at the Ellipse, south of the White House, at around 1:10 p.m., and when he finally released a videotaped statement, at 4:17 p.m., in which he grudgingly urged his supporters to leave the Capitol.
Here is one that got removed.
Trump Calls McConnell a ‘Disloyal Sleazebag’
July 22, 2022 at 11:39 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 65 Comments
Former President Donald Trump slammed Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) during the January 6 Committee hearing last night as a “disloyal sleazebag,”
The Hill reports.
“Trump appeared to lose his temper after the Jan. 6 committee played a clip of McConnell’s speech on the Senate floor during Trump’s second impeachment trial in which he blamed the former president for inciting the attack on the U.S. Capitol.”
_________
McConnell was only telling the truth (but he soon stopped telling it).
Still, it was refreshing to be reminded of that during the last hearing, however.
More and more Republicans are now telling the truth and are being called sleazeballs by Trump.
I call them patriots.
Patriots put truth and country ahead loyalty to lying, corrupt politicians.
This week Economic Reports confirm Bidenomics has failed Americans and we are in a Recession.
Joblessness increased
New home construction declined
New home sales declined
Leading economic indicators June
Down -0.8%
Extra Bonus Quote of the Day
July 22, 2022 at 11:46 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 65 Comments
“The committee is also aware that certain Secret Service witnesses have now retained new private counsel. We anticipate further testimony, under oath, and other new information in the coming weeks.”
— Rep. Elaine Luria (D-VA), at last night’s January 6 Committee hearing.
Reverend...
The only thing a President is responsible for is being President and running the executive branch in an effective and successful manner. They are not there to provide you with any comfort or to appease your lily white liberal social hangups.
You act as if completely failing at the job (as Biden has done) is not an issue whatsoever, as long as the person in charge has a "D" behind his name and thinks like you.
You are sitting out there concerned about a single riot (no worse than 100 other riots in the past few years) that messes with your liberal sensibilities... and you cannot let it go.
Meanwhile millions of Americans are unable to pay increased rent, cannot buy or even find essentials, cannot afford gas, millions are not able to retire because of a dumping market, and millions of others are sitting in fear of crime when our liberal prosecutors are not doing their jobs.
All preventable if we had adults in charge that did not treat our hard earned tax dollars like monopoly money for their own little social and political handouts. All 100% predicted and ignored by these children (who are trying to change the subject by bringing up an ex-president).
And you cannot figure out why these people who are suffering...
Don't want Biden and don't care about Jan 6th.
His lawyers didn't present evidence.
A federal court jury in Washington began deliberations Friday morning in the trial of Steve Bannon, the former top Trump White House aide who is charged with criminal contempt of Congress.
Bannon is accused of willfully failing to comply with subpoenas issued by the House select committee that is investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol by a mob of supporters of then-President Donald Trump.
He faces a minimum criminal sentence of 30 days in jail if convicted of two counts of contempt.
Prosecutor Molly Gaston told jurors in her closing arguments that Bannon “chose allegiance to Donald Trump over compliance with the law.”
I don't think we will have to wait very long until they convict him.
You don't care about Jan 6th because you have lost your mind Scott IED Johnson
You don't care about Jan 6th because you have lost your mind Scott IED Johnson
Well Roger...
The 330 million or so other Americans who are not watching these hearings and obsessing about them non-stop... have they all lost their minds as well?
Is it only the few of you crazies who think America is great today under Biden and that our top concern should be a protest that happened almost 19 months ago now who are sane?
Is that your argument here, Rog?
Really?
Two thirds of the public think it is time to move on from Jan 6th...
- Roger believes that 200+ million Americans are insane
Two thirds of the public believes that the committee is partisan and unfair
- Roger believes they are all crazy
A majority believes that it would just to pardon anyone charged that was non-violent
- Roger probably wants to line them up and shoot them.
When Do We get some of that Build Back Better stuff?
Results so far:
Falling Real Wages
Increased poverty
Sky rocketing crime
Stock Market in Correction
This week Economic Reports confirm Bidenomics has failed Americans and we are in a Recession.
Joblessness increased
New home construction declined
New home sales declined
Leading economic indicators June
Down -0.8%
The American Rescue Bill under Sleepy Joe Biden is being used in Florida.
Thousands of low-income Florida families are expected to receive relief checks to help offset inflation costs.
Gov. Ron DeSantis' administration on Thursday announced he's reallocating some COVID-19 relief funds and sending $450 a child directly to struggling families in the state.
"This one-time payment assists families who are being affected by rising inflation and preparing to send their children back-to-school," Laura Walthall, a spokesperson for the Florida Department of Children and Families, said in a statement to Insider.
To fund the checks, the governor has set aside $35.5 million from the $1 billion the state received from the American Rescue Plan Act, according to an announcement from Casey DeSantis, Florida's first lady.
Of course not.
But he tried to stage a coup and you don't recognize how dangerous he is.
IED Johnson
Medications can slow it down but you will eventually be the fifth Beatle.
Roger
2/3 of the public believe it is time to "move on" from Jan 6th...
So they all are crazy and have IED because they don't recognize how dangerous Trump is to your personal feelings? That he makes you upset - wike a widdow baaaaby!
I am betting that many of 2/3 would be willing to trade Biden for Trump in a heartbeat right now... Jan 6th or not. At least we know that more people would vote for Trump and that Trump is more personally popular than Biden?
Why do you suppose that is, Roger?
Is everyone crazy for wanting to have a better life?
Because you don't care about this is a symptom of IED
Trump was complacent about ‘Hang Mike Pence’ chants
In her opening statement at the much-watched first hearing, committee Vice Chair Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) revealed that witnesses who spoke to the committee described former President Trump showing little regard for the safety of his vice president when learning about the mood at the Capitol, where rioters were calling to “hang Mike Pence.”
“Maybe our supporters have the right idea,” Trump said.
He went on to add that Pence “deserves” it.
You have never said anything about this
Because you don't care about this is a symptom of IED
Trump was complacent about ‘Hang Mike Pence’ chants
No Roger...
I don't care about the Jan 6th hearings! Plain and simple! Pelosi, Schumer and most Democrats have done worse calling for rioting after George Floyd and even setting up funds to bail out violent rioters. They have no fucking place to criticize a single riot where the only person killed was a veteran protester who was murdered in cold blood by the Capitol police.
They are hypocrites and con artists.
Meanwhile the country crashes and burns. People cannot get basic necessities, they cannot afford rent and gas, our markets have crashed and people cannot retire. We have dead American troops, Afghanistan is back with the Taliban, Putin is still gaining ground in Ukraine...
and you are spending all your time trying to convince me that the United States Government was in danger of being overthrown by a small group of people with bear spray and flagpoles.
Literally ALL YOUR FUCKING TIME HERE!!!
and you think "I" am the one who is crazy here?
Scott this why.
Axios
Former President Trump’s top allies are preparing to radically reshape the federal government if he is re-elected, purging potentially thousands of civil servants and filling career posts with loyalists to him and his "America First” ideology, people involved in the discussions tell Axios.
The impact could go well beyond typical conservative targets such as the Environmental Protection Agency and the Internal Revenue Service. Trump allies are working on plans that would potentially strip layers at the Justice Department — including the FBI, and reaching into national security, intelligence, the State Department and the Pentagon, sources close to the former president say.
During his presidency, Trump often complained about what he called “the deep state.”
The heart of the plan is derived from an executive order known as “Schedule F,” developed and refined in secret over most of the second half of Trump’s term and launched 13 days before the 2020 election.
The reporting for this series draws on extensive interviews over a period of more than three months with more than two dozen people close to the former president, and others who have firsthand knowledge of the work underway to prepare for a potential second term. Most spoke on condition of anonymity to describe sensitive planning and avoid Trump’s ire.
The centerpiece
Trump signed an executive order, “Creating Schedule F in the Excepted Service,” in October 2020, which established a new employment category for federal employees. It received wide media coverage for a short period, then was largely forgotten in the mayhem and aftermath of Jan. 6 — and quickly was rescinded by President Biden.
Sources close to Trump say that if he were elected to a second term, he would immediately reimpose it.
Tens of thousands of civil servants who serve in roles deemed to have some influence over policy would be reassigned as “Schedule F” employees. Upon reassignment, they would lose their employment protections.
New presidents typically get to replace more than 4,000 so-called “political” appointees to oversee the running of their administrations. But below this rotating layer of political appointees sits a mass of government workers who enjoy strong employment protections — and typically continue their service from one administration to the next, regardless of the president’s party affiliation.
An initial estimate by the Trump official who came up with Schedule F found it could apply to as many as 50,000 federal workers — a fraction of a workforce of more than 2 million, but a segment with a profound role in shaping American life.
Trump, in theory, could fire tens of thousands of career government officials with no recourse for appeals. He could replace them with people he believes are more loyal to him and to his “America First” agenda.
Even if Trump did not deploy Schedule F to this extent, the very fact that such power exists could create a significant chilling effect on government employees.
It would effectively upend the modern civil service, triggering a shock wave across the bureaucracy. The next president might then move to gut those pro-Trump ranks — and face the question of whether to replace them with her or his own loyalists, or revert to a traditional bureaucracy.
He has receded it but.
That Ch calls people opposed to Trump "hypocrites and con artists" is amazing.
It doesn't take one to be opposed to one.
https://www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-2025-radical-plan-second-term
The first Trump Indictment May Come In Georgia
July 22, 2022 at 1:07 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 25 Comments
Harvard Law professor Laurence Tribe “predicted that former President Donald Trump will face an indictment in Georgia before he is potentially charged with a crime by the Justice Department,” Newsweek reports
That stupid phone call
Classic fascism.
Communism is dead.
Cutting Through Trump’s Lies
July 22, 2022 at 1:00 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 27 Comments
Mona Charen:
“The January 6 committee has not conducted hearings, in the traditional sense, so much as a multi-part documentary.
"Wise choice.
“The purpose is to educate the American people and to cement in the public memory the infamy of Trump’s final days.
They have succeeded magnificently.
Every member of the committee has conveyed a sense of righteous outrage – whether because her family were refugees from communism like Stephanie Murphy,
or because they personally put their lives on the line serving in the military, like Adam Kinzinger and Elaine Luria,
or because they come from a tradition of service like Liz Cheney,
or because they hail from a community that was enslaved and oppressed and fought for dignity like Bennie Thompson.
These are Americans who represent what is best about the country – its freedom, its openness to immigrants, its repudiation of its racist past, and its commitment to the Constitution.
“The effects of the committee’s work may not be evident in the short term
(though there are some indications that the hearings have weakened Trump’s grip on the GOP),
but they will be felt in the medium and long term as the import of what happened ripens in the national consciousness.”
______
And the history of America will benefit.
Trump’s Fixation on 2020 Is His Best Strategy to Win
July 22, 2022 at 1:10 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 33 Comments
Jonathan Chait:
“The idea that Trump is harming himself is passed off as an undeniable fact. And it is almost certainly true that Trump’s election conspiracies are harmful to the interests of the Republican Party. People loyal to the party are trying very hard to convince Trump that it is also harmful to him. And yet, if you think carefully about it, Trump seems to be wise to ignore the advice pouring in from his party.
“Enormous mental energy, and innumerable visits to small-town diners, have been invested into the mystery of the Republican base’s attachment to Trump. The answer I find most persuasive, and which also explains his behavior, is that Trump sold himself as a fighter and a winner.
The conservative media spent years convincing its audience that the Republican Party was led by weaklings who were allowing the country to be stolen from them by a truthless enemy. Trump, by virtue of his lack of virtue, would smite them. Conceding that he lost the election would destroy his core attribute.”
SO YOU'RE STUCK WITH THE BIG LIE.
That Ch calls people opposed to Trump "hypocrites and con artists" is amazing.
It doesn't take one to be opposed to one.
Reverend...
So when Kathleen Harris and other liberals in congress set up funds to bail out protesters (many violent) in the wake of the George Floyd killing... Or when Nancy Pelosi suggested that the riots should be happening in more places than they were... or any of the dozens of other comments and support for the riots (protests) from liberals...
are you saying that encouraging those riots is okay?
but that we should hold Trump to a different standard?
Roger...
I don't listen to Axios or Lawrence Tribe (who literally stated recently that Trump could be indicted for murder). No amount of liberal hand wringing over their recent loss of control over the politics of the country makes any difference to me.
But it sounds to me that you believe we should be taking Jan 6th hearings more seriously because it is important to "stop Trump" by any means possible (even dishonest ones). Not necessarily because the actual hearings are legitimate.
Who before Trump
has ever so fixatedly
labored illegally
to try to overthrow an election
that simply cannot be overthrown
either by legal means
or by lying, hypocritical
con artistry?
Who before Trump
has ever so fixatedly
labored illegally
to try to overthrow an election
that simply cannot be overthrown
either by legal means
or by lying, hypocritical
con artistry?
Hmmmmm...
I recall that the previous election involved a candidate handing fake information about her opponent to the FBI and CIA, and in spite of the FBI and CIA finding any real legitimacy in the information... pushing forward 2 years of investigation costing the American taxpayers tens of millions of dollars - all as a means to undermine, impeach or otherwise "undo" the Trump win in 2016.
So... yeah, Reverend.
The 2016 election comes to mind. Pretty sure neither your or Roger accepted the results and the civil unrest after that election was anything but peaceful. Protests went on all over the country for several days causing hundred of millions in overall damages. Hundreds protested at the White House demanding Trump was not their President...
Oh and several states were challenged, including Wisconsin where liberal demanded that the voting machines were hacked.
So... I think your problem is both a bad memory and an issue with the bad orange man!
And btw... 2/3 of the country would rather see us move on?
Shouldn't we respect the wishes of the majority?
Blogger Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...
Who before Trump
has ever so fixatedly
labored illegally
to try to overthrow an election
that simply cannot be overthrown
either by legal means
or by lying, hypocritical
con artistry?
here ya go, pedo
She still has yet to concede
Who before Trump
has ever so fixatedly
labored illegally
to try to overthrow an election
that simply cannot be overthrown
either by legal means
or by lying, hypocritical
con artistry?"
Al Gore
HILLARY
HELL, JFK outright stole the election that made him a human lead collector.
Al Gore and Hillary have repeatedly said they Won .
Even to this day the say it.
The Biden message .
"Americans must feel real pain, for however long it takes".
He sold US Strategic Petroleum Reserve Oil to China .
Getting his 10% cut.
The verdict is in.
We don't know the decision
Of course because you have been brainwashed.
I read both sides in order to make up my own mind Scott
If people remind the people??
But publicly, Trump lied.
He lied at the gathering of the world’s elite in Davos, Switzerland on January 22, saying, “It’s one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.” He lied days later in Michigan, declaring that “everything’s going to be great” and falsely claiming, “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.” He later said the virus was going to have “a very good ending for it.” And with an eye toward Wall Street, he lied to the entrepreneurs in India, declaring “as far as what we’re doing with the new virus, I think that we’re doing a great job.”
But the markets fell again that day Trump spoke in New Delhi, creating their biggest two-day slide in four years, and things were about to get worse. None of Trump’s magic words would prevent the Dow from losing 37 percent of its value from February to March, shocking the market when it dropped almost 3,000 points on March 16 — its worst single-day plummet in history.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/07/22/donald-trump-covid-panic-february-2020-00047177
Friday fun 🤪
Guilty on both charges
WASHINGTON (AP) — Steve Bannon, a longtime ally of former President Donald Trump was convicted Friday of contempt charges for defying a congressional subpoena from the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.
Bannon was found guilty after a trial that lasted around five days in federal court in Washington on two counts: one for refusing to appear for a deposition and the other for refusing to provide documents in response to the committee’s subpoena.
He faces up to two years in a federal lockup when he’s sentenced. Each count carries a minimum sentence of 30 days in jail.
The jury of eight men and four women deliberated for just under three hours before returning the verdict.
They did it. They pulled it off. Anyone who feared that the January 6 committee’s season finale would turn into an anti-climax – more Game of Thrones than M*A*S*H – need not have worried. There were shocks, horrors and even laughs.
The eight “episodes” have exceeded all expectations with their crisp narrative and sharp editing, a far cry from the usual dry proceedings on Capitol Hill. Each has recapped what came before, teased what is to come and compellingly joined the dots against Donald Trump.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/22/january-6-panel-gripping-finale-trump-us-capitol-riot
Never in my life have I met an imbecile like Roger.
I thank God for it.
Loioooiyffty6reetujuuytguuygtg
'A plot against democracy': J6 Committee members explain why more hearings on Trump's election threat are needed
Sarah K. Burris
July 22, 2022
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The House Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on Congress and the attempt to overthrow the election held its eighth hearing Thursday evening, in what some have described as a kind of "season finale, not a series finale."
Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) told Raw Story that there will likely be more coming from the committee after the August recess and that there are "a variety of people" whom she wants to hear from as more evidence is turned over to the committee. She noted that there are some things that the committee hasn't even been able to focus on.
According to Lofgren, after each of the public hearings, more witnesses came forward with statements and evidence based on what was being said or relevant information they realized they had. She went on to say it necessitates future hearings.
"We can't just sit on that," she told Raw Story.
RELATED: Josh Hawley captured on film running for his life after fist pump for Jan. 6 rioters
Rep. Elaine Luria (D-VA), who was the lead on the hearings Thursday with Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL), told Raw Story that it's clear others coming forward have seen how courageous the witnesses are as they've come forward because "they believe it's the right thing to do" and "they care about our country."
Kinzinger told reporters after the hearing had finished that he's not a Justice Department attorney but he is convinced that Donald Trump committed criminal behavior.
"I think if you look at what we presented tonight and between all of these hearings — this cannot be acceptable from the President of the United States," Kinzinger said. "Like the worst thing we can do is put out something that says the president is above the law, he can do this again, because I guarantee you it will happen again."
Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) brought up the Senate's bill reforming the Electoral Count Act, and noted that it isn't a sufficient solution to what happened after the 2020 election. He doesn't think the committee will have been successful if people come out of the hearings thinking that all Donald Trump did was try and nullify the Electoral College vote count.
"There is a lot more to do because there has been a plot against democracy, not just on the Jan. 6 session of Congress, but we saw it take place at the state level, we saw attacks on voters' rights, we've seen it in efforts to overthrow the decisions of election boards and now we see the effort to impose political decisions of election boards, so there's a lot going on," Raskin explained. "And it's a moment when we have to be very serious about what can happen in our democracy."
He went on to cite the reports that Trump is still making calls to Wisconsin election officials trying to change the 2020 election.
"The president still wants Wisconsin to say that the election is not over and he's looking for a way to reopen it," Raskin continued. "To this day he has not accepted the outcome of the election and he's trying to make that fiction a litmus test for participation in the Republican Party. He wants everyone to accept the 'big lie.' I hope that these hearings completely and once and for all demolish the 'big lie.'"
He noted that he's not sure about the next steps after hearing that Trump called members of the U.S. Senate in the middle of the attack. The committee could subpoena them or their phone records, but Raskin said he wasn't certain if the committee was willing to take those steps because it "poses difficult questions about bicameralism."
"We obviously encourage everyone to come forward," Raskin also reiterated.
While other members have indicated there might be hearings in September, Raskin made it clear they haven't announced anything, but that the investigations and interviews with witnesses will continue through August
Question for the Reverend and Roger...
On a scale of 1 to 10....
How frustrating is it that after all of the pomp and circumstance on the left and all of the drooling your liberal media is doing...
That nobody seems to care about the hearings...
and that Trump is still beating Biden in head to head and is still the most popular political figure right now?
That really must chap some serious ass!
A question for Lil SChittty .....
on a scale of 1 and a million, what are the odds that trump won with fact, not opinion????????? BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
BTW....the generic congressional polls show major impact to the GOP's demise!!!!!!
Hey Denny
The current RCP average is GOP +1.9 - and they are currently up nearly 5 point in the battleground districts! And every major prognosticator is showing the GOP winning at least 20 or more seats...
That is the GOP demise?
LOL! What a maroon!
Among the possible recommendations, according to people with knowledge of those discussions - passing a law implementing the insurrection clause of the 14th Amendment, which could pave the way to attempting to bar Trump from office in the future”
The goal of this Stalinist propaganda trial and every shady trick they play, was, is, and always has been to prevent Trump from running for president again in 2024. This is a sequel to the Russia collusion probe whose goal was to force Trump to quit the presidency.
There are two aspects to the leak, first the act of leaking, and second, the contents of the leak.
Let's look at the act of leaking itself.
The leaking of the footage of Trump recording his address falls into the same level of violation as the leaking of the Supreme Court's draft documents, which happened in the run-up to the recent ruling overturning Roe v. Wade.
Every individual in positions of power from presidents to Supreme Court justices deserves to have a secure work environment where he or she can discuss ideas freely with their team.
Recording a speech is a collaborative process, among the speechwriters, the advisers, and the president. Anybody who has written articles or delivered speeches knows that texts frequently evolve. Authoring a text is not mathematics where there is only one answer. The merit of a text is purely subjective, a text may seem perfect to one and deeply flawed to another. It is up to the speaker to decide what can be included in the final draft.
The public has the right to judge a president on the basis of his public statements. The public is not entitled to know the thought or ideas or the portion of prose that was rejected as the speech was crafted.
We will never ever see footage and outtakes of Biden taping an address. The establishment will not do that to one of their own.
Now let’s focus on the content:
Leaking only works when it reveals hypocrisy.
If Trump had used pejorative epithets for his supporters or had talked about abandoning them, it would have been doubtlessly scandalous. But nothing of the kind occurred. Trump's utterances during the outtakes are consistent with his every public statement. Trump refused to concede defeat, for which he had good reason to, just as he had stated in public. Trump stood by his supporters and even wanted to call them patriots.
If anything this footage makes Trump look good.
It also reminds people of the good old days, when the U.S. had a president whose cognitive abilities were fully functional and who was truly in command. The last word was always his.
The footage demonstrates President Trump’s involvement in crafting his speeches. Contrast that with Joe Biden who reads softly and listlessly off the teleprompter in lines written by others, and is so unattuned he even reads the instructions.
Hey Denny
The current RCP average is GOP +1.9 - and they are currently up nearly 5 point
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! Another duck and cover from the omnipotent idiot Lil Schitty!!!!! BTW Trends of the generic ballot choice show the GOP may not pick up any seats at all.....Fuck off and answer my question about odds......complete asshole!!!!
Fatty you’d better hurry the geriatric special at Golden Corral will end by 6:30 and beddy time for the aged, like you, is like 8
LOL
Typical argument seen here:
Denny: Bwaaaa! The latest congressional polling shows the GOP in fast demise!
CHT: Actually the latest polling shows the GOP up and up even higher in battleground districts.
Denny: The polling doesn't mean shit asshole! Just like Trump didn't win! Bwaaaa!
WASHINGTON — The House committee investigating Donald Trump’s attempted coup to remain in power wrapped up its summer series of public hearings Thursday night, going through a minute-by-minute account of his refusal to tell the violent mob he had called to the U.S. Capitol to stand down.
“Donald Trump’s conduct on Jan. 6 was a supreme violation of his oath of office and a complete dereliction of his duty,” said Rep. Adam Kinzinger, an Illinois Republican. “It is a stain on our history.”
U.S. Mulls Sending Fighter Jets to Ukraine
July 22, 2022 at 6:26 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard Leave a Comment
“The Pentagon is considering providing Ukrainian forces with fighter jets, the White House said Friday, marking what would be a significant expansion of U.S. involvement in the war and carrying with it a risk of more direct confrontation with Moscow,”
the Wall Street Journal reports.
“The Pentagon is considering providing Ukrainian forces with fighter jets, the White House said Friday, marking what would be a significant expansion of U.S. involvement in the war and carrying with it a risk of more direct confrontation with Moscow,”
This would have been a popular move at the beginning of this war.... now it just appears like we are extending the carnage without actually trying to win. Seems like Korea or Vietnam all over again (minus the US Troops).
Either get the fuck in and win the war...
or stay the fuck out and let the chips fall...
“The Pentagon is considering providing Ukrainian forces with fighter jets, the White House said Friday, marking what would be a significant expansion of U.S. involvement in the war and carrying with it a risk of more direct confrontation with Moscow,”
We did the same thing during the cold War.
The Ukrainian people will defend themselves without risking American lives.
Biden's war going very badly.
He has wasted US Treasure for nothing.
From the story is the best reason
While Ukrainian ground-based air defenses have prevented Russia from achieving air superiority in Ukraine, Russian air power eclipses Ukraine’s air fleet in terms of numbers of aircraft and technology. More modern fighter jets would allow Ukraine to strike behind Russian lines and to provide air cover to its troops, particularly in the open plains of the southern Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions that Kyiv seeks to reclaim.
In recent months, some Central European countries have provided Ukraine with parts of Soviet-legacy fighter jets, allowing Ukraine to put more aircraft in the air. Ukraine has been successfully using its jets to shoot down some of the long-range cruise missiles that Russia has been raining on Ukrainian cities. It also used its jets, in addition to drones and artillery, to oust Russian forces from the strategic Snake Island in the Black Sea.
5 month late.
Biden is a lousy Commander, to sl ow, too Fragil and too indecisiveness.
"The Pentagon is considering providing Ukrainian forces with fighter jets, the White House said Friday, marking what would be a significant expansion".
Roger, give US ,Bidens reason for not providing the fighters m I nths ago?
the southern Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions that Kyiv seeks to reclaim. It would probably take back the region
That's Russian strategy for a few months
Biden limp wristed feeble leadership.
Feckless.
:The Biden administration has ruled out the transfer of fighter jets to Ukraine because it would be a “high risk” step that could ratchet up tensions with Russia, the Pentagon said Wednesday.
Poland had offered to donate Soviet-era MiG 29 aircraft to Ukraine via a U.S. air base in Germany, but Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told his Polish counterpart, Mariusz BÅ‚aszczak, that the U.S. opposed the proposal, Pentagon press secretary John Kirby told reporters."
Testimony sheds new light on Trump’s Jan. 7 speech:
Why did Donald Trump deliver a Jan. 7 speech he didn't agree with? Because he was afraid his own cabinet was poised to remove him from office.
June 29, 2022, 10:22 AM CDT
By Steve Benen
On Jan. 6, during the insurrectionist violence at the U.S. Capitol, Donald Trump ignored those who urged him to call off the mob he’d dispatched to the Hill. In fact, during the attack, Trump made matters worse deliberately by publishing a tweet condemning his own vice president.
Eventually, the then-president released a video in which he professed his “love” for the rioters, before telling his followers to end their assault. It was the next day when Trump delivered a very different kind of message from the White House.
“Like all Americans, I am outraged by the violence, lawlessness and mayhem,” the outgoing president said on Jan. 7, describing the riot as a “heinous attack.” Reading carefully from a prepared text, Trump added,
“The demonstrators who infiltrated the Capitol have defiled the seat of American democracy.... To those who engage in the acts of violence and destruction: You do not represent our country, and to those who broke the law: You will pay.”
It was an odd message, delivered in an odd way, that was wildly at odds with everything the president seemed to believe about the rioters and their attack. Indeed, in the months that followed, Trump rejected everything he’d said on Jan. 7, eventually telling the public that the rioters were great “patriots,” worthy of celebration, who “represented the greatest movement in the history of our Country.”
So why exactly did the then-president deliver remarks to the nation that he clearly did not believe? Because as we learned yesterday, Trump felt like he’d be removed from office if he didn’t.
The New York Times noted:
Members of the president’s Cabinet were distressed enough by the assault on the Capitol and the president’s encouragement of the mob and refusal to intervene that they quietly discussed invoking the 25th Amendment to remove him from office, Ms. Hutchinson testified. The ignominious prospect of being the first president to be subject to the amendment was one of the reasons he agreed to record a video on Jan. 7 committing to a peaceful transfer of power.
There’s long been speculation about how close members of Trump’s cabinet were to trying to remove him from power in the wake of the attack on the Capitol, and Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony yesterday, and related revelations from the hearing, brought new clarity to the issue.
Indeed, Hutchinson testified that Trump told top members of his team he didn’t feel the need to say anything on Jan. 7, and when he saw a draft that had been prepared by others, the then-president rejected lines about “prosecuting the rioters or calling them violent.”
Joe has Cancer and Covid.
But Trump grudgingly delivered the remarks anyway because, as Hutchinson said in her sworn testimony, “there was a large concern of the 25th Amendment potentially being invoked.”
She added that Trump was told that his Jan. 7 speech would provide him with “cover” — not from the public, members of Congress, or the press, but from members of his own administration who were prepared to remove him from office.
In fact, we’ve learned a surprising amount about just how serious this possibility was. Fox News’ Sean Hannity, effectively playing the role of a White House strategist, alerted Mark Meadows, the then-White House chief of staff, to the fact that the 25th Amendment threat was “real.”
Hutchinson also told Jan. 6 investigators that former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had reached out to Meadows, letting the White House know that cabinet secretaries had begun behind-the-scenes conversations about removing Trump from office.
All of this also dovetailed nicely with other details we already knew: Former Education Secretary Betsy DeVos recently told USA Today that in the aftermath of the attack on the Capitol, she thought it was at least possible she’d help remove Trump from office by way of the 25th Amendment. It was on Jan. 7 when she personally spoke with other cabinet members about this possibility — and even talked to then-Vice President Mike Pence about the process.
There have also been reports that then-Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, among others, was “personally involved“ in such deliberations.
This not only provides important context for Trump’s Jan. 7 speech, it should also be of interest to rank-and-file Republicans who remain skeptical of the investigation into the larger scandal:
Members of Trump’s own cabinet — his handpicked cabinet secretaries, responsible for helping him govern — were actively involved in conversations about kicking him out of the White House.
THEY SHOULD HAVE.
NOW IT'S TIME AND LONG PAST TIME TO INSURE THAT HE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO HOLD OFFICE AGAIN.
Jan. 6th a big yawn.
As. Trump watched the invasion of the Capitol on Fox News, he is modern-day Nero.
Nero watched Rome burn 🔥
President Trump , 45 and 47.
The best thing that could happen.
Roger makes emotional baseless claims.
Imbecile
The Buden Recession.
When does build back better arrive?
The Criminal Case Against Trump Is Getting Stronger
July 22, 2022 at 6:44 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 4 Comments
David French:
“To understand why, let’s turn briefly to Georgia—the state where evidence of his alleged criminality has always been the most compelling.
“Indeed, as the criminal investigation plays out, the fake-electors scheme may well be the most clearly illegal element of the entire effort to overturn the election.
Their designations represent a series of concrete, overt acts that move beyond verbal bluster about election fraud and raise the question—who initiated, approved, and/or directed the scheme?
“As I’ve written before, Trump’s recorded demand that Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger ‘find 11,780 votes’—along with his not-so-veiled threat that Raffensperger faced a ‘big risk’ of criminal prosecution if he failed—was already quite legally problematic.
"Add this threat to the fake-electors scheme, and the elements of a criminal conspiracy come clearly into view.”
E.J. Dionne:
Finally, the dam is breaking against Trump.
Any Republican who claims to be
yawning at all this is lying.
a knee slapping series of lols lols lols lols lols
The committee’s task was to ensure that Trump is held accountable — morally, politically and legally. On all these fronts, the dam really has broken.
gurgle gurgle gurgle gurgle
go the Trumpists
I am yawning James/Roger.
It is a b I g nothing burger.
it will choke you
:-)
Roger and James hate so much, it is very ungodly.
I hope you old men find peace before you soon die.
The Buden Recession.
When does build back better arrive?
lol
thanks for the really big laugh
Have you found peace for calling Obama and Michelle what you called them?
But that wasn't hate, was it?
Thanks for the really big laugh.
Have you found peace for calling Obama and Michelle what you called them.
But that wasn't hate or racism, was it?
Nearly half of Americans have been forced to cut back on basic activities such as driving, and over one-third said they have now go grocery shopping less often, an Echelon Insights survey released this week found.
The survey found nearly three-quarters of likely voters expressing the belief that a candidate should focus on economic issues over social issues. Further, 58 percent are at least somewhat less secure in their financial situation than they were one year ago. Of those, 31 percent said they are “much less” secure. Their outlook is not positive either, as 55 percent said they are not confident that their financial situation will be better one year from now. "
Americans can't find Biden's Build Back Better, they have found his " Americans will feel pain, for as long as it takes".
"But that wasn't hate or racism, was it?"
No, it wasn't, statement of Facts.
Americans are living a reduced quality of life because of Biden's policies.
This is Build Back Better.
More Americans in Poverty.
BS It was raw hate and worse, racism.
James, you asked , I answered.
Too bad you lost the debate to me, again.
You are a very emotional queen.
Build Back Better has Failed.
88 percent of Americans say America is heading in the wrong direction.
Blogger Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
the southern Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions that Kyiv seeks to reclaim. It would probably take back the region
That's Russian strategy for a few months
You’re just figuring this out?
You think your answer justifies your calling Obama "a black monkey in the White House" and his wife "a cheap Chicago whore" as a non hate-filled, non racist statement of "Facts"?
That is your idea of winning?
Even Loretta jumped all over you for saying that, LOL
That was not anonymous. That was me.
Trump could face multiple criminal charges for trying to overturn 2020 election: report
Reuters
July 22, 2022
A U.S. congressional committee probing the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the U.S. Capitol has sought to build a case that then-President Donald Trump behaved illegally when he tried to overturn his 2020 electoral defeat, but what charges could prosecutors bring against Trump and how might he defend himself?
Here are some ideas being floated:
OBSTRUCTING AN OFFICIAL PROCEEDING
In a March 2 court filing, the committee detailed Trump's efforts to persuade then-Vice President Mike Pence either to reject slates of electors for Joe Biden, who won the election, or delay a congressional count of those votes.
The president's efforts likely violated a federal law making it illegal to "corruptly" obstruct any official proceeding, or attempt to do so, said David Carter, the California federal judge overseeing the case said in a March 28 written order.
At a primetime hearing on Thursday, committee members alleged that Trump watched the violence at the U.S. Capitol unfold live on television and failed to prevent it. Witnesses testified as to Trump's reluctance to tell the rioters to leave for hours after they breached the building.
Jennifer Rodgers, a former federal prosecutor and lecturer at Columbia Law School, said a prosecutor would include that testimony if they were to try Trump on an obstruction charge because it would show his intent at the time.
"(Trump) was urged by everyone around him to act, to try to do something to stop it, and he chose not to," Rodgers said.
CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD THE UNITED STATES
In the March 2 filing, the committee said it was likely that Trump and others conspired to defraud the United States, which criminalizes any effort by two or more people to interfere with governmental functions "by deceit, craft or trickery."
In addition to Trump's efforts to pressure Pence, the committee cited his attempts to convince state election officials, the public and members of Congress that the 2020 election was stolen, even though several of his allies told him there was no evidence of fraud.
Cassidy Hutchinson, an aide to then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, previously testified that Trump was so enraged by then-Attorney General Bill Barr's interview with the Associated Press saying there was no evidence of election fraud that Trump threw his lunch at the wall, breaking a porcelain dish and leaving ketchup dripping down the wall.
SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY
Prosecutors have already charged more than a dozen members of the far-right Proud Boys and Oath Keepers groups who were at the Jan. 6 riot with seditious conspiracy, a rarely used statute that makes it illegal to overthrow the U.S. government by force.
To prove Trump committed seditious conspiracy, prosecutors would need to show he conspired with others to use force.
Rodgers said a prosecutor could use Trump's failure to act to bolster such a charge, including testimony that he knew he was the only person who could get the rioters to leave the Capitol.
TRUMP'S DEFENSE?
Trump has repeatedly denied doing anything illegal in connection with the Jan. 6 events.
In a series of posts on his social media platform Truth Social on Thursday, Trump attacked the House panel, but maintained his false claims that the 2020 election was stolen. "So many lies and misrepresentations by the corrupt and highly partisan Unselect Committee!" he wrote.
If the Justice Department were to bring charges, prosecutors' main challenge would be to prove that Trump acted with corrupt intent, experts said.
Trump could argue he sincerely believed that he won the election and that his well-documented efforts to pressure Pence and state election officials were not meant to obstruct Congress or defraud the United States, but to protect the election's integrity.
DOES THIS MEAN TRUMP WILL BE CRIMINALLY CHARGED?
No. Neither Carter nor the committee can charge Trump with federal crimes. That decision would have to be made by the Justice Department, led by Attorney General Merrick Garland.
The department is conducting its own investigation of the Jan. 6 events. Any decision to indict Trump would have enormous political consequences as the former president weighs another run for the White House in 2024. The department did not respond to a request for comment
If the Jan. 6 hearings have successfully proven one thing, it's that Trump is a 'master gaslighter,' politics expert says
Erin Snodgrass
4 hours ago
The Jan. 6 committee zeroed in on Trump's "dereliction of duty" during its public hearing on Thursday.But a politics expert said the panel has been most successful in highlighting Trump's manipulation methods. "Trump is a master gaslighter," Matthew Schmidt said.
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Donald Trump's actions and inactions surrounding January 6, 2021 took center stage at Thursday's Congressional hearing. But its the former president's manipulation methods that stole the panel's six-week show, a politics expert told Insider this week.
The House Select Committee investigating the attack on the Capitol has hosted eight public hearings since June 10, culminating in a primetime hearing on Thursday evening — the last before the panel breaks for an August recess.
Lawmakers in the last month and a half have presented copious amounts of evidence suggesting former President Donald Trump Trump's "dereliction of duty" that day and featured bombshell witness testimony highlighting the former president's erratic behavior as a mob of rioters descended upon the US Capitol on January 6, 2021.
But the primary point the panel has succeeded in proving thus far has little to do with Trump's actions — and everything to do with Trump's mindset, according to Matthew Schmidt, an associate professor of national security and political science at the University of New Haven.
"My big takeaway is that Donald Trump is able to do what he does because he's a gaslighter," Schmidt told Insider. "Trump is a master gaslighter."
Gaslighting — a form of psychological manipulation — involves sowing doubts about someone's perception of reality by distorting facts and truths. The perpetrator often employs lies, denials, and fabricated memories to exert power and control over a victim. The term has grown in colloquial usage in recent years.
The panel's hearing on Thursday focused on the many steps Trump failed to take amid the chaos of January 6 — he refused to call off his supporters for hours, ignored his many advisors' strategic advice, and refused to say the 2020 election was over.
But there's a subtle, yet significant, difference in acting immorally and failing to act at all, Schmidt said, and Trump's acts of omission during and after the Capitol riot, are his own form of gaslighting
Gaslighting — a form of psychological manipulation — involves sowing doubts about someone's perception of reality by distorting facts and truths. The perpetrator often employs lies, denials, and fabricated memories to exert power and control over a victim. The term has grown in colloquial usage in recent years.
The panel's hearing on Thursday focused on the many steps Trump failed to take amid the chaos of January 6 — he refused to call off his supporters for hours, ignored his many advisors' strategic advice, and refused to say the 2020 election was over.
So the cowardly J6 committee didn't allow their accused to confront them under oath
How much more of a show trial could that be ?
And their last day of J6 "testimony" included an anonymous and unseen "witness" unconfronted and with "bombshell evidence"
Democracy is burning
Everything democrats are accusing others of they are doing
Especially gaslighting
Disclose.tv
@disclosetv
NOW - Steve Bannon: "The gutless members of that show trial J6 committee didn't have the guts to come down here and testify in open court."
VIDEO:
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1550564335818362882
Democrats now hold show trials in a town of 96 % democrats
I guess to be fair democrats need to be tried somewhere with 96 % Republicans including the judges and DA's
Them's the new "rules"
or how about making Washington DC represent America ?
we are not a swamp
yet
Tulsi Gabbard
@TulsiGabbard
Whatever you think of Bannon, the fact he was charged with contempt of Congress, but Clapper, Brennan & others who lied to Congress have never been charged, shows how the Biden admin / elite have shamelessly weaponized law enforcement into a political hit squad.
https://truthsocial.com/@TulsiGabbard/posts/108695662161113612
Knock Knock
The Biden stormtroopers
Even with show arrests
1984
Banana Republic
Fucked up more fucked up than evah!!!!!! Never let facts get in the way of his gas lighted opinion!!!!!!!!!! Sad how all the slurpers are counting on people not caring about the hearings when the data and polls clearly indicate otherwise!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
Bill Mitchell
https://gettr.com/post/p1jb9kqb288
How bad is the J6 Committee?
The leader of this clown show stated that "Trump stood by and did nothing as protesters beat and killed officers."
Nice, except that NO police officers were killed at the protest. Zero, Nada.
Where I come from, we call that a LIE.
Sad fucked up accusing others of lying while he is a promotor of the Trump big lie and his getting away with the BS and avoiding conviction forever!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!
Tim Young
https://gettr.com/post/p1jaj198128
Sooo... the January 6 committee is more interested in a deputy press secretary's communications recommending a tweet than the Speaker of the House's communications with Capitol Police... got it.
Who cares about the individual in charge of security when investigating security breakdowns?
VERY lo iq certainly doesn't
When you can't comprehend facts they don't matter
ROFLMFAO !!!
techno
@techno_fog
For those keeping score, you get a free pass for executing unarmed Trump supporters in the Capitol but you go to jail for ignoring a Congressional subpoena.
https://truthsocial.com/@techno_fog/posts/108693221260460862
and you are immediately released if you try and assassinate a Republican running for governor or a Supreme Court Justice
Banana Republic
with VERY lo iq as the jester
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
The President Who Stood Still on Jan. 6
Even as the riot raged at the Capitol, Trump wouldn’t tell his supporters to stop.
By The Editorial Board
July 22, 2022 6:52 pm ET
No matter your views of the Jan. 6 special committee, the facts it is laying out in hearings are sobering. The most horrifying to date came Thursday in a hearing on President Trump’s conduct as the riot raged and he sat watching TV, posting inflammatory tweets and refusing to send help.
Shortly after Mr. Trump urged protesters to march on the Capitol, he was told violence was breaking out. At about 1:30 p.m. he went to the dining room, where he stayed until 4 p.m. There is no official record of what he did, and the photographer was told no pictures.
All of MAGA world was texting Chief of Staff Mark Meadows that Mr. Trump needed to call off his supporters. White House Counsel Pat Cipollone testified that he argued internally “there needs to be a public announcement, fast, that they need to leave the Capitol.” He added that Mr. Meadows joined those calls throughout the day, as did Ivanka Trump.
By 2:13 the Capitol was breached. The committee played radio traffic from Vice President Mike Pence’s security detail. “I’ve got public about five feet from me down here below,” one voice said. Another warned: “If we lose any more time, we may lose the ability to leave.”
At 2:24 Mr. Trump issued his tweet saying Mr. Pence “didn’t have the courage” to stop the electoral count. The VP was evacuated from a Capitol office at 2:26, according to the committee. What if that route had been blocked? Would the mob have harmed Mr. Pence? Would the Secret Service have opened fire?
At 2:38 Mr. Trump tweeted: “Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!” Sarah Matthews, a White House communications aide, didn’t think Mr. Trump was doing enough, and she recounted a conversation with Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany.
“She looked directly at me and, in a hushed tone, shared with me that the President did not want to include any sort of mention of ‘peace,’ in that tweet,” Ms. Matthews said. “It took some convincing on their part, those who were in the room.” The group tried to find some language Mr. Trump would consent to post, and “it wasn’t until Ivanka Trump suggested the phrase ‘stay peaceful’ that he finally agreed to include it.”
How did rioters react to the tweet about the Capitol police?
The committee played what it said was radio chatter by Oath Keepers. “He didn’t say not to do anything to the Congressmen,” one voice chuckled. Another added: “Well, he did not ask them to stand down.” Not until 4:17 did Mr. Trump post a video telling rioters to go home, while justifying their actions, since “this was a fraudulent election.”
The committee’s critics are right that it lacks political balance. It is trying to make a criminal case that might be hard to prove and might tear the country apart. It undermines its argument by not releasing full transcripts of testimony. Why rely on what Ms. Matthews said that Ms. McEnany said that Mr. Trump said? The committee interviewed Ms. McEnany.
Still, the brute facts remain:
Mr. Trump took an oath to defend the Constitution, and he had a duty as Commander in Chief to protect the Capitol from a mob attacking it in his name.
He refused.
He didn’t call the military to send help.
He didn’t call Mr. Pence to check on the safety of his loyal VP.
Instead he fed the mob’s anger and let the riot play out.
In the 18 months since, Mr. Trump has shown not an iota of regret.
On Thursday he claimed to be vindicated by a bill to clarify the Electoral Count Act.
“Mike Pence told me, and everybody else, there was nothing he could do,” Mr. Trump wrote. “If so, how come the Democrats and RINOs are working so hard to make sure there is nothing a VP can do.”
Character is revealed in a crisis, and Mr. Pence passed his Jan. 6 trial.
Mr. Trump utterly failed his.
The January 6th Committee’s primetime hearing drew an estimated 17.7 million viewers, an 11% dropoff from the 20 million who watched the committee’s last nighttime event in June.
The figures from Nielsen are across 10 networks. The committee’s June 9 hearing, kicking off its series, drew about 20 million on 11 networks.
Nielsen said that each of the eight hearings averaged 13.1 million, while the two primetime hearings averaged 18.9 million. The daytime hearings averaged 11.2 million.
Those are solid albeit not blockbuster numbers. The committee’s hearings, though, have commanded news cycles, and moments have gone viral on social media. That happened on Thursday, when the committee played a clip of Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO) running from the Senate floor as the mob approached on January 6. Hours earlier, Hawley had raised his fist in solidarity with the protesters.
Bidenomics has failed Americans.
Electricity shortages.
Electricity is 20 % more expensive then this time last year.
The committee’s critics are right that it lacks political balance. It is trying to make a criminal case that might be hard to prove and might tear the country apart. It undermines its argument by not releasing full transcripts of testimony. Why rely on what Ms. Matthews said that Ms. McEnany said that Mr. Trump said? The committee interviewed Ms. McEnany.
Still, the brute facts remain: Mr. Trump took an oath to defend the Constitution, and he had a duty as Commander in Chief to protect the Capitol from a mob attacking it in his name. He refused. He didn’t call the military to send help. He didn’t call Mr. Pence to check on the safety of his loyal VP. Instead he fed the mob’s anger and let the riot play out.
In the 18 months since, Mr. Trump has shown not an iota of regret. On Thursday he claimed to be vindicated by a bill to clarify the Electoral Count Act. “Mike Pence told me, and everybody else, there was nothing he could do,” Mr. Trump wrote. “If so, how come the Democrats and RINOs are working so hard to make sure there is nothing a VP can do.”
Character is revealed in a crisis, and Mr. Pence passed his Jan. 6 trial. Mr. Trump utterly failed his.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-president-who-stood-still-donald-trump-jan-6-committee-mike-pence-capitol-riot-11658528548?st=yrjivvqsyzfphym&reflink=share_mobilewebshare
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-president-who-stood-still-donald-trump-jan-6-committee-mike-pence-capitol-riot-11658528548?st=yrjivvqsyzfphym&reflink=share_mobilewebshare
REMEMBER:
The Wall Street Journal and the New York Post are Murdoch Newspapers.
THE NEW YORK POST:
Trump’s silence on Jan. 6 is damning
By the New York Post Editorial Board
July 22, 2022 5:39pm Updated
He was watching television for the entire span of time the riots were taking place.
Trump waited over three hours to respond to the Capitol Riots.
As his followers stormed the Capitol, calling on his vice president to be hanged, President Donald Trump sat in his private dining room, watching TV, doing nothing.
For three hours, seven minutes.
There has been much debate over whether Trump’s rally speech on Jan. 6, 2021, constituted “incitement.” That’s somewhat of a red herring. What matters more — and has become crystal clear in recent days — is that Trump didn’t lift a finger to stop the violence that followed.
And he was the only person who could stop what was happening. He was the only one the crowd was listening to. It was incitement by silence.
Trump only wanted one thing during that infamous afternoon: to pressure Vice President Mike Pence to decertify the election of Joe Biden.
To his eternal shame, as appalled aides implored him to publicly call on his followers to go home, he instead further fanned the flames by tweeting: “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution.”
His only focus was to find any means — damn the consequences — to block the peaceful transfer of power.
There is no other explanation, just as there is no defense, for his refusal to stop the violence.
https://deadline.com/2022/07/january-6th-committee-hearing-draws-17-7-million-a-falloff-from-last-primetime-session-1235075449/
DOJ Sabotaged Trump Release Of Russiagate Docs
The Department of Justice blocked the release of hundreds of pages of 'Russiagate' documents that were declassified by then-president Donald Trump, who wanted to expose FBI abuses against he and his inner circle surrounding the 2016 US election and beyond.
After the agency refused, citing last minute 'privacy concerns,' they defied a subsequent order to release the materials after redactions were made, according to Just the News, which has obtained a memo from the National Archives written by former White House Chief-of-Staff, Mark Meadows, hours before Trump left office on January 20, 2021.
Meadows' memo confirmed prior reporting by Just the News that Trump on Jan. 19, 2021 declassified a binder of hundreds of pages of sensitive FBI documents that show how the bureau used informants and FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign and misled both a federal court and Congress about flaws in the evidence they offered to get approval for the investigation.
The declassified documents included transcripts of intercepts made by the FBI of Trump aides, a declassified copy of the final FISA warrant approved by an intelligence court, and the tasking orders and debriefings of the two main confidential human sources, Christopher Steele and Stefan Halper, the bureau used to investigate whether Trump had colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election. -Just the News
Investigations into Trump and his campaign, as we know, found that there was no collusion with the Kremlin. Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton authorized the dissemination of a fabricated claim that the Trump team was communicating with a Russian bank.
The declassified documents have never seen the light of day - as the DOJ disobeyed a direct order from the sitting US president, through Meadows, to declassify and expeditiously release them after private information was redacted.
"Well, you know, the swamp is pretty deep," he said. "But when we look at this, this particular president was all about draining the swamp, you know, and when he was running, that was more of a campaign slogan. When he got there, he realized that not only was the swamp very deep, but they they would fight back. And oftentimes he said, 'You know, I want to do this and get this out to the American people, not just the classification in terms of issues that affected him or his campaign personally, but issues that affect the American people."
"What would happen is he would have a directive, and then we would see, as people were leaving the Oval Office, you know, they were nodding compliance in the Oval Office, and the minute they go out, they said, 'Well, we're not going to do that' or 'We're going to find all the reasons not to do it.' So I found that very often while I served as chief of staff, but also found that as a member of Congress, that many times we would go in and the president was all in on a transparency issue, only to find that many, whether they be at a particular agency or the Pentagon, they started pushing back."
According to Meadows, if the documents are ever released they'll show that congressional Democrats and FBI leadership knew they were lying.
"We found that not only were some of the allegations made by some of the Democrats false, but they were kind of guilty of what they were accusing Donald Trump of," he said.
continues:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/doj-sabotaged-trump-release-russiagate-docs?commentId=b09002ce-f6d2-4fcb-9eec-44087fec8b60
No wonder the J6 committee and democrats fight transparency and hold show trials
James, we need to keep posting the coldheartedtruth because the fouder of the website has lost his mind.
techno
@techno_fog
BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! Fucked ups most apt description of his posts and lack of logic and accepting trump as his savior and leader!!!!!!!!!! What a sick loser he keeps proving to be!!!!!!!!
WASHINGTON (AP) — To understand how Donald Trump’s desperation and lies became a potent danger to democracy, consider the ginger mints.
Mints featured in one of the absurdist but toxic episodes fleshed out in the Jan. 6 hearings, which now pause even as the Justice Department presses ahead on a parallel criminal investigation that it calls the most important in its history.
Here’s how one conspiracy theory, in a dark sea of them, was born:
A mother-daughter team at a Georgia elections center shared the treat during a long election night. Someone videotaped them and chose to believe the mint mother gave to daughter was a USB port. Trump’s lawyer spread the accusation that the video caught the women using the device to try to corrupt the election against the president.
Frantic to stay in power, grasping at anything, Trump ran with the lie. He attacked the mother by name, branded her a “professional vote scammer,” and soon vigilantes showed up at a family home intending to execute a “citizens’ arrest,” the committee was told. For the love of mints.
The episode fed into a web of fabricated stories, melting under scrutiny like snowflakes in a Georgia summer. The hearings illustrated how those stories fueled the anger of Trump’s supporters across the U.S. and especially those who stormed the Capitol, many armed and out for blood.
DOJ’s failure to release the memos fit a pattern of political abuse inside an agency that is supposed to be above politics.
“For four years they lied, leaked, spied on, and smeared President Trump in their attempts to defy the will of the people,” she said. “This is further proof of the depths they will go to hide their corruption. It is far past time for transparency of one of the biggest political scandals in American history.”
The Justice Department did not respond to a request for comment. The FBI declined to comment.
Meadows wrote in his 2021 memo that White House lawyers told him that the DOJ's last-minute concerns were not legitimate because the executive office of the president was exempt from the Privacy Act. In the interview Tuesday night, he said he agreed in the final minutes of the presidency to let DOJ make redactions "out of an abundance of caution" and expected the DOJ would comply with Trump's order.
"We wanted to make sure that that we didn't harm anyone," he explained. "And so we gave them those declassified documents. I want to stress they were declassified documents, and they were to do a final redaction for some of that personal information with the instruction that they were to go ahead and disseminate those. We expected fully that they would do that."
https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/mystery-solved-doj-secretly-thwarted-release-russia
The truth will get out
and it scares the powers that be to death
along with their clueless minions
especially the twelve percenters
who still strongly support Biden
and post endless streams of propaganda from the show trial here
Long before the committee called its first witness, scenes of the rampage had been burned into the public consciousness. What new information could possibly come from it? Plenty, it turned out. And as the inquiry continues, with more hearings planned in September, still more evidence is being gathered.
With seven Democrats working with two Republicans on the outs with their party, the committee did what Trump’s two impeachment trials couldn’t — establish a coherent story out of the chaos instead of two partisan ones clawing at each other.
“American carnage,” Democratic Rep. Jamie Raskin of Maryland , lead manager of the second Trump impeachment and a committee member on this inquiry, said of the latter’s bottom line. “That’s Donald Trump’s true legacy.” Not the carnage Trump spoke of in his inaugural address.
In a methodical, even mannerly process rarely seen from Congress, the panel exposed behind-the-scenes machinations laying bare the lengths Trump and his enablers went to keep him in power and the extent to which his inner circle knew his case about a stolen election was bogus. Some told him that to his face; others humored him.
At every turn the hearings made clear Trump was willing to see the legislative branch of government and democratic processes in state after state consumed in the bonfire of his vanities.
He was told the rioters were out to find his vice president, Mike Pence, at the Capitol and hang him. Trump’s chief of staff related to another aide the president’s thoughts on the matter, that Pence “deserves it,” according to testimony.
Trump was told many of his supporters that day bore arms. He didn’t “effing care.”
“They’re not here to hurt ME,” he said, according to testimony. “Take the effing mags away. Let my people in, they can march to the Capitol from here. Let the people in, take the effing mags away.” It is unlikely he said “effing.”
He wanted the magnetometers, or metal detectors, removed from security lines so loyalists in town for his rally could pack the space, underscoring a Trump obsession with crowd size that was evident from the first day of his presidency.
The committee pinpointed a range of renegade if not criminal options that were floated in the White House, which taken together resembled a tin-pot coup in the country Ronald Reagan called democracy’s “shining city upon a hill.”
A city, Reagan imagined, “built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace.”
That bedrock convulsed as Trump and his allies contemplated an executive order to seize voting machines and other steps that democracies don’t take.
“The idea that the federal government could come in and seize election machines, no,” Pat Cipollone, the White House counsel, said as he recounted a White House meeting that devolved into a screaming match. “That — that’s — I don’t understand why we even have to tell you why that’s a bad idea for the country.”
Trump leaned on Republican-led states to find more votes for him — 11,780 in Georgia would do it, he said. State Republicans were pressed to appoint fake electors. He hectored Pence to do what he didn’t have the power — or the will — to do, when called upon to certify the election.
When all else failed, Trump told his supporters to “fight like hell’ and encouraged them to march down to the Capitol, saying he’d be joining them.
Saying no to the boss is never easy. Saying no to the U.S. president you work for is another thing altogether.
But Trump’s plotting was foiled by Republicans in the states that mattered, conservative aides, bureaucrats and loyalists-to-a-point who ultimately said no, no, no.
When Trump demanded to be taken to the Capitol on Jan. 6, the committee was told, his Secret Service detail said no.
When Trump pressed his vice president to derail the certification of Joe Biden’s election, four years of supplication and admiring glances by Pence came to an end. He said no.
The Republican election official in Georgia said no to cooking the results to deliver Trump the state, never losing his cool on the phone with the president. The Republican House speaker in Arizona, pressed to appoint fake electors, invoked his oath and said no way.
Two Justice Department leaders in succession said no to him. When he moved to appoint a compliant third, Justice Department officials told him in the Oval Office that if he did so, they would quit en masse and the new man would be left “leading a graveyard.”
All of that left the president with an inept cadre, mostly of outsiders, to tell him what he wanted to hear. One sells pillows.
Even Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, perhaps the most loyal of loyalists and a man who voiced plenty of delusional statements on behalf of his client, acknowledged at one point that there was nothing more to Trump’s accusations of a rigged election than speculation.
“We’ve got lots of theories,” he told Rusty Bowers, Arizona House speaker. “We just don’t have the evidence.”
https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/
BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!! Fucked up gas lighting himself!!!!!!!! LOLOLOLOL More bullshit just like his post on the Indiana case where he reported the rapist of the 10 year old was doing her mother also....what a fucking lying scum bag!!!
Yet the comment — as related to the committee by Bowers — was made in the context of pressing him to appoint fake electors anyway, which Bowers refused to do. And it was Giuliani who stoked the USB conspiracy theory that prompted the FBI to direct the mother into hiding and made her daughter fearful of being out in public.
The Constitution demands that presidents “take care that the laws be faithfully executed.” Failure to do so can be a crime.
With the summer hearings over, attention now shifts to the Justice Department, where Attorney General Merrick Garland has vowed to hold wrongdoers “at any level” accountable, whether present at the Capitol or not, and said as recently as this week that “no person is above the law.”
He’s made no public statements as to whether the department might pursue a criminal case against Trump, noting that the agency does not conduct its investigations in public. Yet he said he regards this one as the “most important” and sweeping it’s ever undertaken.
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Some legal experts have said the hearings identified a range of potential crimes for which the ex-president might conceivably be prosecuted. Corruptly obstructing an official proceeding. Conspiracy to defraud the U.S. Inciting a riot. Even seditious conspiracy.
But these crimes are easier to casually talk about than to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, especially against a former president and one who might run again.
As the hearings unfolded, Democrats were surprised to find themselves standing in admiration, if not awe, for the deeply conservative Rep. Liz Cheney, the poker-faced Republican on the committee who, despite her measured words, made clear her icy disdain for Trump and the many Republicans in Congress who appear to remain in thrall to him.
She did not countenance the Trump defenders who argued he was manipulated by outside “crazies.”
“President Trump is a 76-year-old man,” she said. “He is not an impressionable child. Just like everyone else in our country, he is responsible for his own actions and his own choices.”
I see roger is having an episode
He is acting irrationally and continuously shouting
Must be a supply chain problem with the medications
and boy does he need a lot of them
I feel sorry for his fellow patients in the facility
especially his bunkmate
SUNDAY NIGHT MASSACRE?
The hearings laid bare how the Justice Department — if not democracy itself — was brought to the brink not only by Trump’s outside pressure but also by an accomplice from within.
Jeffrey Clark was a little-known lawyer who joined the department only in 2018, as its chief environmental enforcement official, and by 2020 was leading its civil division.
He was a prime cheerleader for Trump’s voter fraud claims and the president weighed making him acting attorney general, a position where he could have done real damage. Clark had been stealthily advancing plans to challenge the election results without telling his higher-ups.
Three senior Justice officials testified to the committee, among them the acting attorney general at the time, Jeffrey Rosen. The men described in granular detail how they presented a united front against Trump’s badgering.
“Just say that the election was corrupt + leave the rest to me and the R. Congressmen,” according to handwritten notes from Rosen’s deputy, Richard Donoghue, that conveyed what the president told the two men and that were shown at the hearing. “R.” was short for Republican.
It all culminated in an Oval Office meeting on the Sunday evening three days before the Capitol attack, when the question hanging over the session was whether Trump would fire Rosen and elevate Clark. The plan had already progressed to a point that White House call logs cited by the committee were, by that afternoon, referring to Clark as the acting attorney general.
The meeting opened, Rosen testified, with Trump telling the group, “One thing we know is you, Rosen, you aren’t going to do anything” to overturn the election.
Hey VERY lo iq
you should check with roger about sharing a room
you'd fit right in !!!
butt buddies love doing that BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
which you excel at
You’re right, Mr. President, Rosen said he replied.
As the meeting continued, Trump was told the Justice officials in the room — except Clark — would resign if Rosen were fired. Potentially hundreds of federal prosecutors would walk out the door, too.
Such a crisis would eclipse the Saturday Night Massacre of 1973, when the attorney general and his deputy both resigned rather than execute Richard Nixon’s order to fire the Watergate prosecutor.
Trump backed down. Rosen would keep his job. But Trump had one last question for him: What happens to Clark now? Are you going to fire him?
No, Rosen said, he didn’t have the authority to — only Trump did. And that wasn’t going to happen.
“Alright,” Rosen said. “Well, then we should all go back to work.”
Sorry roger
your episode is destroying this blog
as it has you
and nothing will help
try to enjoy your final time on earth
and not be so bitter and frustrated
The hearings produced enough words for a classic novel of scheming and corruption, longer than George Orwell’s dystopian “1984,” far longer than Niccolò Machiavelli’s 16th century power study, “The Prince,” and in the ballpark of “The Bonfire of the Vanities,” Tom Wolfe’s take on greed and deception from the 1980s era of Trump the New York developer and man about town.
In that period, Reagan spoke often of America the shining city, a notion handed down from the Puritans, but perhaps most poignantly in his farewell address in 1989. “How stands the city?” he asked rhetorically.
These days, intact but endangered, the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol found. Intact because enough of the president’s men and women, public servants and state officials said an emphatic, fucking, no.
https://apnews.com/article/Jan-6-hearings-Trump-capitol-10351fe6d555eaee7554379ceed8bb24
James and Roger left this blog filled with Hate last night and returned with thier Hate.
https://apnews.com/article/Jan-6-hearings-Trump-capitol-10351fe6d555eaee7554379ceed8bb24
Scott edited some of this 👌 because he is insane
James's Fucking Daddy
Exactly 💯 correct.
"nothing will help
try to enjoy your final time on earth
and not be so bitter and frustrated"
You may not have heard why Fiancée aka Victim # 3 called off the May 9th, 2022 wedding.
CASSIDY HUTCHINSON
In 1973, the nation was riveted by a young White House lawyer, John Dean , a participant in the Watergate scandal who delivered hours of harmful testimony about the Nixon White House during congressional hearings while fielding the most memorable question of all: “What did the president know and when did he know it?”
The Jan. 6 hearings delivered another witness whose words will be long remembered even if they may not be as impactful as Dean’s were in the proceedings that helped force a sitting president out of office.
She was Cassidy Hutchinson, the mid-20s White House staffer and aide to chief of staff Mark Meadows whose age and anonymity were belied by the lasting damage of her fly-on-the-wall testimony June 28. She described witnessing a president unbound.
In her composed account, the president was prone to fits of rage, heaving a porcelain plate of food against a White House wall when he learned his attorney general had publicly contradicted his claims of vast voter fraud. (She grabbed a towel to help the valet clean up dripping ketchup.)
In her telling, the president was aware on the morning of Jan. 6 that loyalists in Washington were armed but was so determined to have their support at a rally that he demanded security be eased.
It was she who heard from her boss, Meadows, that Trump had brushed off the mob’s threat to hang Pence from the makeshift gallows the insurrectionists had erected outside the Capitol — that Trump thought the vice president deserved that fate.
Roger
you do realize you actually live in a type of insane asylum ?
with supervised visits to get medical help outside the facility ?
or haven't they told you ?
Or maybe you are trying to gaslight CHT and the blog ?
why do insane people call others insane?
or is that just something democrats are so used to doing ?
accuse others of what you are or are doing ?
https://apnews.com/article/Jan-6-hearings-Trump-capitol-10351fe6d555eaee7554379ceed8bb24
CASSIDY HUTCHINSON
In 1973, the nation was riveted by a young White House lawyer, John Dean , a participant in the Watergate scandal who delivered hours of harmful testimony about the Nixon White House during congressional hearings while fielding the most memorable question of all: “What did the president know and when did he know it?”
The Jan. 6 hearings delivered another witness whose words will be long remembered even if they may not be as impactful as Dean’s were in the proceedings that helped force a sitting president out of office.
She was Cassidy Hutchinson, the mid-20s White House staffer and aide to chief of staff Mark Meadows whose age and anonymity were belied by the lasting damage of her fly-on-the-wall testimony June 28. She described witnessing a president unbound.
In her composed account, the president was prone to fits of rage, heaving a porcelain plate of food against a White House wall when he learned his attorney general had publicly contradicted his claims of vast voter fraud. (She grabbed a towel to help the valet clean up dripping ketchup.)
In her telling, the president was aware on the morning of Jan. 6 that loyalists in Washington were armed but was so determined to have their support at a rally that he demanded security be eased.
It was she who heard from her boss, Meadows, that Trump had brushed off the mob’s threat to hang Pence from the makeshift gallows the insurrectionists had erected outside the Capitol — that Trump thought the vice president deserved that fate.
Mother Of 10-Year-Old Rape Victim Says Everything Said About Alleged Rapist Is ‘A Lie’
The mother of the 10-year-old Ohio rape victim who traveled to Indiana for an abortion told Telemundo she had not filed charges against the alleged rapist and claimed the media is lying about him.
Gerson Fuentes, the 27-year-old illegal immigrant charged with raping the young girl, confessed to the crime and was arrested Tuesday, according to The Columbus Dispatch. The victim’s mother defended the alleged rapist to a Telemundo reporter who showed up at her apartment.
“Yes, but she’s fine. Everything that they’re saying against him is a lie,” the girl’s mother told Telemundo from inside her apartment when asked whether the 10-year-old lived there. She also said she was not pressing charges against Fuentes.
Users on social media raised questions about Fuentes’ relationship with the victim’s mother, given the woman’s defense of the alleged rapist.
Reports of a 10-year-old crossing state lines into Indiana for an abortion made national headlines in early July after Dr. Caitlin Bernard shared the story with the press. She has since been disciplined by her employer for a HIPAA violation, according to Fox News.
Bernard also incorrectly reported that the child had been raped by a 17-year-old in a filing to the Indiana Department of Health, according to Fox News.
Stories about the girl’s abortion initially drew speculation because they came from a single source, Bernard, who has a history of abortion activism, and because Ohio’s attorney general said he hadn’t heard of any similar child rape cases in the state. Earlier articles about the story did not mention that the child had been raped by an adult.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/mother-of-10-year-old-rape-victim-says-everything-said-about-alleged-rapist-is-a-lie/ar-AAZCB2P
mother of a 10 year old defending her daughter rapist is normal according to VERY lo iq
No wonder state media quickly stopped coverage
oh and he is an illegal too
two reasons
and if VERY lo iq doesn't see it on state media in headlines he doesn't believe it..
Well, I don't have a low iq and a mother defending someone -- anyone! -- who got her ten year old daughter pregnant sounds fishy to me.
It is reaching a point where some of you will defend against ANYthing that casts a bad light on legislation you support, no matter how outrageous it is.
Meanwhile keep defending the ketchup throwing President who wanted Pence hung because he "deserved" it.
Rioter Who Wanted to Shoot Pelosi Sent to Prison
July 22, 2022 at 8:03 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 432 Comments
A Pennsylvania woman who entered the U.S. Capitol during the Jan. 6, 2021, riot and later recorded herself saying she wanted to shoot House Speaker Nancy Pelosi “in the frigging brain” has been sentenced to 60 days behind bars, the Washington Post reports.
__________
Trump who wanted Pence hanged should also be sent to prison.
WHO ,tells Biden, your policies will kill millions of people world wide as food production plummets.
Not nearly enough time behind bars.
"A Pennsylvania woman who entered the U.S. Capitol during the Jan. 6, 2021, riot and later recorded herself saying she wanted to shoot House Speaker Nancy Pelosi “in the frigging brain” has been sentenced to 60 days behind bars, the Washington Post reports."
James, what was he exact criminal charge"
What is this 🔥 mess.
"It is reaching a point where some of you will defend against ANYthing that casts a bad light on legislation you support, no matter how outrageous it is".
DisHonest, indecent, untruthful and ignorant Rev. said...
Well, I don't have a low iq and a mother defending someone -- anyone! -- who got her ten year old daughter pregnant sounds fishy to me.
well it's her 27 year old boyfriend who was doing both of them
and he's no fish
illegals
and it's not a dream
reported by Telemundo including video
in Spanish of course
Their reporting is now better than ours
except when they rely on our state media
Jan. 6 rioter who said she wanted to shoot Nancy Pelosi sentenced to 60 days behind bars
(CNN)A January 6, 2021, US Capitol rioter who said she had looked for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to kill her that day was sentenced to 60 days behind bars Thursday.
"We broke into the Capitol, we got inside, we did our part," Dawn Bancroft said in a selfie video she took after leaving the Capitol on January 6. "We were looking for Nancy to shoot her in the frickin' brain, but we didn't find her."
"Those comments, Mrs. Bancroft, are not acceptable in a democratic society," district Judge Emmet Sullivan said during Thursday's sentencing. "I feel bad for you, I feel bad for you that you made these comments."
Sullivan said he considered sentencing Bancroft to more time behind bars but chose to stick with the Justice Department's request of two months.
Bancroft, 59, pleaded guilty to unlawfully protesting in September and will also serve three years probation and 100 hours of community service.
"The comments made by you on the steps of the Capitol in the presence of others ... they were reckless statements that people should be held accountable for," Sullivan said, adding that others could have acted on her comments.
"How many others left there that day (thinking), 'Hey, next time I come I'm going to bring my bullets for Nancy,'" Sullivan said.
Bancroft told the court that she "made a very bad choice that day" and that she regretted her actions. She also said that she had been threatened and harassed with phone calls and letters since her arrest.
In a court filing, Bancroft's attorney, Carina Laguzzi, argued that her client was not being literal in her threats against Speaker Pelosi.
"Who hasn't told their spouse, 'I am going to kill you if you leave (your) shoes on the carpet again!'" Laguzzi wrote. "And yet these statements are not meant to be taken literally."
Laguzzi also blamed, in part, the speech then-President Donald Trump gave at the Stop the Steal rally on January 6 as well as the impact Covid-19 had on mental health and propaganda on social media for her client's actions that day.
"It is the defense's contention but for the culmination of all of these events, Ms. Bancroft would not be before the Court," Laguzzi wrote.
DisHonest, indecent, untruthful and ignorant Rev. said...
Trump who wanted Pence hanged should also be sent to prison.
"pastors" who spread these lies should be in prison
or hell
When I say the mother's comments are 'fishy' I do not mean that it did not happen. I mean that is is absolutely reprehansible that ANY mother would defend a rapist of her ten year old daughter.
What other interpretation can anyone give to Trump's refusal to condemn those who called for Pence's hanging because he thought he deserved it?
So is Hell for Trump?
Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
I would like to note that -- shortly before the 2020 election -- numerous large media outlets ratified the CIA lie that the documents on Hunter Biden's laptop were "Russian disinformation." Even today -- after the NYT & WPost both authenticated them -- not *one* has retracted it.
Hunter's private left is irrelevant. But the attempts to trade on his dad's name for deals in China and Ukraine, with his dad's participation, were *highly relevant*. That's what makes that media/CIA lie, and their censorship, one of the worst journalistic scandals in decades.
Beyond the revolting and steadfast refusal of *even one* of these outlets to retract that pre-election lie or even account for what they did -- a gigantic scandal -- the Guardian to this very day has this article up which everyone knows is a lie. No retraction or editor's note: (photo)
I stopped practicing law to do journalism because I really believe journalism is virtuous, noble, necessary. These media corporations have destroyed it. The public despises them: with good reason.
These are not mistakes. These are lies. And they are lies they *refuse* to admit.
Look at this. When a journalist has a book to sell -- as
@KatyTurNBC
does now -- they're admit the public no longer trusts a word they say. They'll lament it.
But the one thing they *never* do is engage in self-reflection, ask what they do to cause it:
https://mobile.twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1549031675006693376
"pastors" who spread these lies should be in prison
or hell
I see the "pastor" self identifies as one of these
even while lying about knowing Trump's thoughts
evil
and he knows that is him and not Trump
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When I said I found what the mother said
"fishy" I did not mean that it did not happen. I mean I find it absolutely reprehensible that a mother would defend in any way the rapist of her ten year old daughter.
fishy does not mean reprehensible
in most people's English
but you are a "pastor"
same there
Bidenomics has failed the World
"Official warned Wednesday. David Beasley, head of the U.N. World Food Program, said its latest analysis shows that "a record 345 million acutely hungry people are marching to the brink of starvation" — a 25% increase from 276 million at the start of 2022"
Now I see the "pastor" is deleting his own posts again
by his spamming
again
James the girl was raped @ age 9, and conceived a child.
The Dr. Who aborted the child is a mandatory reporter.
She failed to report the rape to Law Enforcement.
So, James, should the Dr. Be criminally charged?
A crucial witness before the House January 6 committee testified that senior aides had described how Donald Trump thought his vice-president, Mike Pence, deserved to be hanged for not blocking certification of election results, as demanded by the mob that attacked the US Capitol.
Describing events at the White House on the afternoon of 6 January 2021, Cassidy Hutchinson, a former aide to Trump and his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, said:
“I remember Pat [Cipollone, the White House counsel] saying something to the effect of, ‘Mark, we need to do something more. They’re literally calling for the vice-president to be fucking hung.’
“And Mark had responded something to the effect of, ‘You heard him, Pat, he thinks Mike deserves it. He doesn’t think they’re doing anything wrong.’
“To which Pat said something like, “This is fucking crazy. We need to be doing something more.”
__________
"You heard him, Pat, he thinks Mike deserves it. He doesn't think they're doing anything wrong [in calling for Pence to be hung]."
And Pat did not contradict that.
Trump fatigue, is getting worse for him in 2024. If he isn't charged and convicted, he will run again but the momentum is towards DeSantis and a couple other loyalists.
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‘He thinks Mike deserves it’:
Trump said rioters were right to call for vice-president’s death
Trump aides wanted to be ‘doing something more’ to stop the riot, Cassidy Hutchinson told January 6 committee
________
A crucial witness before the House January 6 committee testified that senior aides had described how Donald Trump thought his vice-president, Mike Pence, deserved to be hanged for not blocking certification of election results, as demanded by the mob that attacked the US Capitol.
Describing events at the White House on the afternoon of 6 January 2021, Cassidy Hutchinson, a former aide to Trump and his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, said:
“I remember Pat [Cipollone, the White House counsel] saying something to the effect of,
‘Mark, we need to do something more. They’re literally calling for the vice-president to be fucking hung.’
“And Mark had responded something to the effect of, ‘You heard him, Pat, he thinks Mike deserves it. He doesn’t think they’re doing anything wrong.’
“To which Pat said something like, “This is fucking crazy. We need to be doing something more.”
_________
Why didn't Cipollone deny that Trump had said that?
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