Schumer and Manchin have been negotiating the package for months and the West Virginia moderate had previously said he would be amenable to climate language and tax increases on higher earners in a bill roughly half the size of the $2 trillion social and environmental bill Manchin single-handedly killed last December.
"Political headlines are of no value to the millions of Americans struggling to afford groceries and gas as inflation soars to 9.1%," Manchin spokesperson Sam Runyon said in a statement to Fox News Digital Thursday. "Senator Manchin believes it’s time for leaders to put political agendas aside, reevaluate and adjust to the economic realities the country faces to avoid taking steps that add fuel to the inflation fire."
First, Manchin hits the nail on the head. Democrats trying to pass a deal now is a desperate attempt to garner positive press heading into the 2022 midterms. They had "hoped" that the Jan 6th hearings would change the narrative, but it has been a universal bust. They had "hoped" that the Dobbs ruling would flip everything on its head, but there has been almost no effect on polling,
So when "having a meltdown over Donald Trump" doesn't work, and when over the top rhetoric about social issues doesn't work, they only have one other arrow in their limited quiver. That is to spend enormous amounts of money on plans and policies sure to fail, but popular with their base. But it looks like they are failing there as well.
The stupidity of it all is that their own spending is probably about 99% responsible for our runaway inflation. They were warned, they did not heed, they denied inflation, talked transitory, and still today seem removed from the reality that their actions is the cause and that more spending now will only make it worse.
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The real source is Fox News.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/manchin-faces-pressure-west-virginia-kill-reconciliation-deal
One last turn at the trough because they know next January it's over.
Incredibly they don't care that this new spending bill will make the inflation worse.
WANT TO KNOW WHAT REALLY IS GOING ON?
The big business plot to overthrow democracts (and democracy)
https://hartmannreport.com/p/the-big-business-plot-to-overthrow?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Democrats fumble on the climate crisis again as US suffers consequences of inaction
By Ella Nilsen, CNN
Jul 16, 2022
(CNN) - After more than a year of painstaking negotiations, congressional Democrats on Thursday night found themselves no further on implementing their ambitious climate agenda than when President Joe Biden took office.
For the second time in seven months, Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia walked away from a deal to address the climate crisis, citing concerns over spending and inflation.
"Inflation is absolutely killing many, many people. They can't buy gasoline. They have a hard time buying groceries," Manchin told a West Virginia radio host on Friday. "Everything they buy and consume for their daily lives is a hardship to them. Can't we wait to make sure we do nothing to add to that?"
It was deja vu for climate hawks who watched a similar climate bill fail during the Obama administration in 2010, after which then-President Barack Obama had to rely on executive action.
Twelve years later, Democrats again fumbled the climate crisis within yards of scoring, just as climate scientists are becoming increasingly apoplectic about the urgency to act. The eight hottest years on record have all occurred since 2010, and weather disasters have cost the US more than $100 billion per year on average during that time -- almost double what they averaged in the decade before.
Biden walked into the Oval Office promising the boldest climate action of any president before him.
We are experiencing the biggest climate crisis in our history.
And one Senator killed the best chance in history.
Our grandchildren will suffer the consequences.
But the deficit is much lower than under Trump.
Spending is not causing inflation.
I saw an amazing fact about climate change recently...
Since the beginning of the hysteria, there were approximately 40 different major catastrophic predictions made that we would be seeing today in 2022.
They are currently 0 for 40
Not a one has come true...
But who cares about real science! Climate change is "political science". A way to "whip up support" from the sort of people who "need" to believe in how horrible people and society are.
Prices in America used to be regulated by something called competition.
If one company raises prices above a reasonable level, another company will offer products at a lower price and take away their customers. As long as there are multiple companies in every market sector, and new businesses can easily enter the marketplace to compete with larger companies that have gotten lazy or greedy, competition regulates prices very efficiently.
What blows this up is when companies get large enough that they can use their size and market dominance to keep competitors out of the marketplace.
https://hartmannreport.com/p/the-big-business-plot-to-overthrow?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Theodore Roosevelt broke up Standard Oil and until Ronald Reagan the government broke up monopolies.
In 2024 we need the next FDR OR TDR.
But he or she has to run as a moderate, but underneath he or she can restore bottom up economics
I guess Ch doesn't believe the glaciers are melting and drought is increasing and wildfires and ice caps are melting and naval bases are being threatened and Sought Sea islanders are losing their homes the sea level rise and tornadoes and tsunamis and hurricanes are growing more violent.
All that and more he pretends he is simply not aware of because he is always willing to sell out to Big Business no matter how damaging it is to all the rest of us and to our entire planet.
and naval bases are being threatened and South Sea islanders are losing their homes to sea level rise
Coastal glacier retreat linked to climate changeDate:University of Texas at AustinThe world's coastal glaciers are melting faster than ever. New research gives scientists a way to unravel the causes of glacial retreat, and in turn, reveal how much can be attributed to human-caused climate change. Attributing the human role for coastal glaciers -- which melt directly into the sea -- could pave the way to better predictions about sea level rise.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/07/220714145012.htm
CLIMATEWIRE | Forests around the world are losing their resilience and becoming more vulnerable to disturbances as the planet warms. That’s especially true for ecosystems in tropical, temperate and dry parts of the world, according to a new study.
When a forest loses resilience, it means it’s gradually losing its ability to bounce back after fires, droughts, logging and other disruptive events, said the study, published on July 13 in Nature. Past a certain point, some forests may approach a kind of tipping point — a threshold that launches them into a rapid decline.
And beyond that, some studies suggest, a forest may not be able to fully recover at all. It may instead transform into some other ecosystem entirely, like a grassland or savanna.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-getting-harder-for-forests-to-recover-from-disasters/
MORE DAMNING TRUTH ABOUT TRUMP
Lawyer Pitched Trump on Plan to Subvert Election
July 16, 2022 at 11:45 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 2 Comments
“The role of William Olson in advising the president in late 2020, which has not previously been disclosed, shows how fringe figures were influencing him at a critical time,” the New York Times reports.
“The involvement of a person like Mr. Olson, who now represents the conspiracy theorist and MyPillow chief executive Mike Lindell, underscores how the system that would normally insulate a president from rogue actors operating outside of official channels had broken down within weeks after the 2020 election.
“That left Mr. Trump in direct contact with people who promoted conspiracy theories or questionable legal ideas, telling him not only what he wanted to hear, but also that they — not the public servants advising him — were the only ones he could trust.”
AND HE FELL FOR IT ALL BECAUSE HE NEVER WANTED TO HEAR ANYTHING BUT WHAT HE WANTED TO HEAR.
These are not political aligned.
In my lifetime I have seen the changes.
When Nixon created the EPA. The Republican Party hated smog regulations. When I moved to Southern California in 1986 we had stage 3 smog warnings.
They are gone.
But around the world climate changes are everywhere
Question:
How can the polar ice caps and glacier still be melting when it was solidly the scientific consensus by climate scientists that warming would have melted them completely gone by 2010-2015?
You must mean something different?
Same for the sea rising and engulfing coastland?
That should have happened years ago?
It is happening now but not as fast as they thought.
You should understand that!
Roger...
Is that why you moved up the coast?
Your old place was overtaken by the rising ocean and is now underwater?
I heard that many places in California should be underwater now that it is 2022?
In June 2021, a jet stream charged with heat and chaotic energy from a nearby cyclone stalled over the Pacific Northwest. The mass of trapped air baked the already hot landscape below to a record 49.6°C. More than 1000 people died from heat exposure.
Scientists quickly began working to figure out how much of the blame for the heat wave could be laid to global warming. But the heat was so unusual, the weather so weird, that it broke their methods. “It challenged our techniques, our climate models, and our statistical analysis methods,” says Michael Wehner, a climate scientist at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory who participates in the World Weather Attribution (WWA) initiative. WWA ultimately issued a statement, finding the heat wave was “virtually impossible” without global warming. But, Wehner admits, that statement masked plenty of doubts. “We sort of kludged it.”
Next time, he and fellow modelers expect to do better.
Critics complain that extreme event attribution, as the effort is known, overemphasizes public communications and underestimates uncertainty. But new approaches promise to increase the field’s rigor and more precisely capture the relationship between climate change and extreme weather—even for events so extreme that there is no historical record for comparison.
In one existing method, researchers use climate models to simulate decades of climate history under current conditions and in preindustrial times, before warming set in. They tally up weather events that are similar to the extreme at hand in the two simulations and compare the frequencies to see whether warming increased the odds of the event occurring. In a second method, they shorten the timescale and run a model several hundred times under current and preindustrial conditions to see how often the extreme event would occur in each world. In a third method, researchers force models to re-create the actual atmospheric conditions recorded in the few years leading up to an event, then see how they unfold in counterfactual worlds with less warming. Although this “storyline” approach doesn’t show how much more likely global warming made the extreme event, it does offer clues to how much worse it was because of warming.
https://www.science.org/content/article/record-shattering-events-spur-advances-in-tying-climate-change-to-extreme-weather
But objective thinking seems to escape your mind.
People like you believed that the earth is flat
He deleted it ð
In June 2021, a jet stream charged with heat and chaotic energy from a nearby cyclone stalled over the Pacific Northwest. The mass of trapped air baked the already hot landscape below to a record 49.6°C. More than 1000 people died from heat exposure.
Scientists quickly began working to figure out how much of the blame for the heat wave could be laid to global warming. But the heat was so unusual, the weather so weird, that it broke their methods. “It challenged our techniques, our climate models, and our statistical analysis methods,” says Michael Wehner, a climate scientist at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory who participates in the World Weather Attribution (WWA) initiative. WWA ultimately issued a statement, finding the heat wave was “virtually impossible” without global warming. But, Wehner admits, that statement masked plenty of doubts. “We sort of kludged it.”
Next time, he and fellow modelers expect to do better.
Critics complain that extreme event attribution, as the effort is known, overemphasizes public communications and underestimates uncertainty. But new approaches promise to increase the field’s rigor and more precisely capture the relationship between climate change and extreme weather—even for events so extreme that there is no historical record for comparison.
In one existing method, researchers use climate models to simulate decades of climate history under current conditions and in preindustrial times, before warming set in. They tally up weather events that are similar to the extreme at hand in the two simulations and compare the frequencies to see whether warming increased the odds of the event occurring. In a second method, they shorten the timescale and run a model several hundred times under current and preindustrial conditions to see how often the extreme event would occur in each world. In a third method, researchers force models to re-create the actual atmospheric conditions recorded in the few years leading up to an event, then see how they unfold in counterfactual worlds with less warming. Although this “storyline” approach doesn’t show how much more likely global warming made the extreme event, it does offer clues to how much worse it was because of warming.
By highlighting how the slow process of climate change can affect dangerous weather, these techniques have “revolutionized our ability to communicate the findings of climate science to the public,
https://www.science.org/content/article/record-shattering-events-spur-advances-in-tying-climate-change-to-extreme-weather
I use real science not opinion.
It is very sad to see ð you fade away ðĒ
FYI, the Colorado River is running at record low levels and it is going to make it harder to supply enough water in Southern border ð
The Grand Canyon is experiencing record low flow
Because of climate change according to scientists.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-supreme-courts-latest-decision-is-a-blow-for-stopping-climate-change/
Not a political website ð
VERDICT
Missing context. Gore did not himself predict that the North Pole would be ice-free in summer by 2013. However, he did mischaracterise others’ findings. Gore also made a range of statements during this period, citing varied predictions.
DisHonest, indecent, untruthful, ignorant and spamming Rev. said...
WANT TO KNOW WHAT REALLY IS GOING ON?
Yep you are spamming with the exact same things you had in the last thread
I guess you think this thread is the same as the last
Or you have zero comprehension and awareness
I'm surprised the spam filter hasn't kicked in.
and I see you are having another MELTDOWN
guess everything is business as usual
ROFLMFAO at the pretentious idiot !!!
Hey Rog....
You are free to leave... you know, since the blog here is in such a downward turn due to "my" losing it.
After all...
Only 51 days till you stated you would leave the blog if Trump is not behind bars anyways!
You could always get a head start?
* you need to shorten your name
maybe I'll come up with something for you Pedo
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/16/us/politics/trump-olson-lindell-election.html
It was crazier than before
C.H. Truth said...
Hey Rog....
You are free to leave... you know, since the blog here is in such a downward turn due to "my" losing it.
After all...
Only 51 days till you stated you would leave the blog if Trump is not behind bars anyways!
You could always get a head start?
I told him he should leave and replace Kamala's latest departing speechwriter
She talks like he writes
and he looks at both sides equally
A match made in heaven !!!
Willie Brown would be jealous
The big business plot to overthrow Democracts (and Democracy)
by Thom Hartmann
https://hartmannreport.com/p/the-big-business-plot-to-overthrow?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
HERE'S HOW THOM HARTMANN'S EXCELLENT ARTICLE ENDS:
Last Tuesday, Nobel Prize-winning economist and NY Times columnist Paul Krugman wrote a particularly fascinating op-ed wondering out loud why the economic data for the United States doesn’t make sense any more.
If the economy is in trouble, so should be American companies; if the economy is doing well, so should the American consumers.
But the companies are doing great while consumers are getting screwed.
“Let’s talk about the numbers, and how they don’t add up,” Krugman noted.
He then laid out the numbers, showing that while inflation is raging, wages are actually declining, among other paradoxes.
“Are you confused?” Krugman writes. “You should be. I’ve been in this business a long time, and I can’t remember any period when economic numbers were telling such different stories.”
Former Labor Secretary and economist Robert Reich writes at his brilliant Substack newsletter this week, after noting the global issues also contributing to American inflation:
“Big corporations continue to jack up prices, using inflation as a cover. Big Oil is the worst culprit. Gas prices are up about 60 percent from the year before. They contributed almost half the rise in inflation in June, although pump prices have dropped a bit since then.
"Big Oil is scoring record profits and using them to reward investors by buying back shares of stock. Shell is expecting profits to nearly triple, adding $1 billion to the bottom line. BP reports its largest quarterly profit in a decade.”
And nobody has ever, ever, ever accused the management of any of the big oil companies of wanting more Democrats running the show in Washington DC.
In an earlier post, Reich notes how some of America’s largest companies are enthusiastically funding some of America’s most seditious politicians.
“To state the question in historical terms,” he summarizes, “how different is their behavior from the wealthy European industrialists who quietly backed the fascists in the 1920s and 1930s? These billionaire and corporate funders are as complicit as are the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers in threatening American democracy.”
Indeed. And if they can kick American consumers in the shins hard enough to get them to “vote out the bums” currently running Washington DC — the Democrats — while adding an epic pile of cash to their money bins, all the better.
Hard to believe? Immoral? Remember, these are companies that continue to fund Republicans associated with Trump’s attempt to end our democracy. And if we still had competition in the American economic landscape, even imagining a scenario like I’ve laid out would be impossible.
Time will tell if my analysis is accurate, a paranoid fantasy, or (most likely) a bit of both. But it’s certainly worth Democrats in Congress calling a hearing to check it out.
Your new favorite ð ð
Tucker Carlson, the top-rated Fox News host who has built a following pushing conspiracy theories and lighting into the culture wars, on Friday flirted with a presidential run in his speech to a large gathering of Christian conservative voters in Des Moines, Iowa.
* and she has great "turnover"
both sides
perfect !!!
for roger
not America
Perfect historical content ð
how different is their behavior from the wealthy European industrialists who quietly backed the fascists in the 1920s and 1930s?
Should we call him President Manchin?Saturday's coffee klatch
Robert Reich
4 hr ago
Hey roger
have you let Kamala know you are interested ?
You could do it from your bed
btw do you ever get to leave your room ?
You know in case the water level rises and you may drown due to global warming if you don't manage to get out
Maybe you can stay at Obama's multiple, or Bill Gate's or Nancy's oceanfront property
They apparently are going to be spared !!!
They've invested multi-millions
or did they forget to do their due diligence ?
The United States “will not walk away” from the Middle East and leave a vacuum to be filled by Russia, China or Iran, US President Joe Biden has told a summit in Saudi Arabia’s Red Sea city of Jeddah.
He also told the summit on Saturday that the US is committed to ensuring Iran never gets a nuclear weapon.
Leaders of six countries of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) – Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman and the United Arab Emirates – plus Jordan, Egypt, and Iraq are holding talks on regional security and bilateral relations with the US at the summit.
Biden was using the summit to lay out his strategy for the Middle East as he closed the final leg of a four-day trip meant to bolster ties in the region.
“We will not walk away and leave a vacuum to be filled by China, Russia or Iran,” Biden said. “We will seek to build on this moment with active, principled, American leadership.”
Although US forces continue to target armed groups in the region and remain deployed at bases throughout the Middle East, Biden suggested that he was turning the page after Washington’s invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Uncensored Roger said...
I use real science not opinion.
It is very sad to see ð you fade away
One side of roger talking to the other side
and he feels strongly for both
really
The link below will drive you crazy ðĪŠ
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/7/16/biden-lays-out-middle-east-strategy-at-saudi-arabia-summit
They actually are a good source.
Some of it. Not good
Pedro L. Gonzalez
PHOTO
https://twitter.com/emeriticus/status/1547997211400671232
When Republicans demand their base give steadfast support for the US government's involvement in places like Ukraine, remember that this is who they ask you to empower. These freaks are the managers of the US empire.
R.J. Kassam
@RaheemKassam
America’s representatives at the French Ambassador’s residence this week.
The Biden administration is urgently tackling global warming
SCIENCE !!!
I wonder why support for the Biden administration is plummeting
especially month young voters and Hispanics (or tacos as Jill refers to them)
*especially among young voters and Hispanics (or tacos as Jill refers to them)
what was I thinking
but roger probably understood
ROFLMFAO !!!
Jimmy Failla
https://twitter.com/jimmyfailla/status/1548045795349254144
Kamala Harris’ speech writer is leaving after 4 months on the gig. Apparently she’s gotta get going to where she’s gotta go because it’s time to keep doing what she’s been doing and that time is everyday.
When one door closes it opens for someone else
PAGING roger !!!
They are currently 0 for 40
Which is comparable to trumps record of voter fraud cases. Lil Schitty......as to your alleged list......BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! The number of billion dollar weather events just in the US have grown exponentially!!!!! As to the records you think were predictions are mostly your fucking opinion.,.....BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! Sorry sport without looking at what you claim, I can pretty well conclude they were all very early predictions that are still in play....kinda like sea level rise exists even though you call it wrong.....asshole
We’ll help the earth by polluting it with stupid green energy ideas that I helped subsidize
Idiots
California has been a pioneer in pushing for rooftop solar power, building up the largest solar market in the U.S.," the article began. "More than 20 years and 1.3 million rooftops later, the bill is coming due."
The Times' Rachel Kisela reported that many solar panels that were purchased beginning in 2006, when the California government "showered subsidies on homeowners" to inspire a transition away from fossil fuels, are now reaching the end of their lifespan.
"Beginning in 2006, the state, focused on how to incentivize people to take up solar power, showered subsidies on homeowners who installed photovoltaic panels but had no comprehensive plan to dispose of them. Now, panels purchased under those programs are nearing the end of their 25-year lifecycle," Kisela reported.<
The problem is, when solar panels end up in landfills, "components that contain toxic heavy metals such as selenium and cadmium can contaminate groundwater."
This is an example of how environmental policies can have unintended consequences. "The looming challenge over how to handle truckloads of contaminated waste illustrates how cutting-edge environmental policy can create unforeseen hazards down the road," she said.
If when young were taught the truth that racism and slavery was the dominant ideology when the American experiment began, and we hung by the thinnest thread, until Lincoln saved it, you would be worried right now.
Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
If when young were taught the truth
Raspberry Vinaigrette
Which is comparable to trumps record of voter fraud cases. Lil Schitty......as to your alleged list
Dozens of election fraud convictions including two charges of election counting fraud in Pennsylvania. Wins in Georgia and an ongoing suit where Fulton cannot explain being over 18,000 ballots short of what they reported to the state...
and a huge Supreme Court win in Wisconsin just last week!
Not to mention all of the new EXTREMELY POPULAR election laws in many states as a reaction to issues with election integrity... that will make our elections much more secure!
I'd say overall the case for election integrity and exposing the problems with the 2020 election has been doing rather well over time!!
But hey... I get it.
You just don't keep up Denny!
All the attempts by states to do what Trump was attempting to do: Place election outcomes in the hands of state officials rather than in the votes of the voters, will ultimately not stand up to legal challenges in court.
Simple question for Ch:
Why hasn't Trump launched a legal challenge to Pence's certification of the last presidential election results?
Simple question.
Give us a simple answer?
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