A source tells Fox News that former President Trump and his legal team will likely seek a court order to force the FBI and the Justice Department to turn over a physical copy of the search warrant, the affidavit, and a complete inventory of what was taken in the Mar-a-Lago raid.
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I guess this is the source of Ch's Hot Air "source" propaganda:
https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2022/08/10/doj-source-calls-raid-a-spectacular-backfire-claims-ag-garland-didnt-approve-it-n488788
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The FBI and others from the Federal Government would not let anyone, including my lawyers, be anywhere near the areas that were rummaged and otherwise looked at during the raid on Mar-a-Lago. Everyone was asked to leave the premises, they wanted to be left alone, without any witnesses to see what they were doing, taking or, hopefully not, “planting.” Why did they STRONGLY insist on having nobody watching them, everybody out? Obama and Clinton were never “raided,” despite big disputes!
WANT MORE PROPAGANDA? (IN CAPS)
Trump’s Effort to Impugn the FBI Worked
Philip Bump:
“The first minutes after Donald Trump announced that his Florida estate had been searched by FBI agents went better than the former president could have imagined. His years-long effort to cast the bureau as inherently biased against him quickly prompted even Trump-skeptical Republicans to side with him against the devious Deep State. The wagon-circling reportedly pleased Trump, whose team saw a new breath of unity with Trump as its focus.
“That this reaction was based on claims of political bias within the FBI that have no basis in the available evidence was beside the point. The point was that the FBI became the opposition, just as Trump would have hoped.”
“But it turns out that this wasn’t enough. Baseless assertions of impropriety and bias by the FBI have now been kicked up a notch with multiple figures on the right claiming — again without evidence, much less justification — that maybe the feds planted evidence as they combed through Mar-a-Lago. Because, it seems, any opponent of Trump’s must be cast in the most nefarious terms possible.”
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For example, the judge who approvecd the action is now being subjected to antisemitic threats.
Armed FBI agents guard Mar-a-Lago during 9-hour secretive raid on Monday.
New details on Mar-a-Lago raid come to light
As reported earlier today — President Trump declassified a binder on January 19th, 2021 that contains hundreds of pages about the Crossfire Hurricane scandal. It contains damaging information about the corrupt actors involved with our government. Two different DOJ Attorney General’s have defied President Trump’s direct lawful order to publish the binder in the Federal Register. It’s been 19 months as the DOJ defies the order, and every FOIA request to make it public. Can we now raid the homes of acting AG Monty Wilkinson, and Merrick Garland?
The DOJ had already made redactions to protect sources & methods, and returned the binder back to the White House. But the corrupt FBI also wanted to hide names. So at the last minute, the DOJ demanded the binder comply with the 1974 Privacy Act. The Act requires any “agency” that releases records to also hide personal or identifiable name information. The DOJ knew this Act doesn’t apply to the White House, it was a stall tactic. The courts decided this 22 years ago that the Privacy Act was based around FOIA requests, and the White House is not an agency.
Mar-a-Lago should become a byword for government overreach
By Charles Ortel
In the spectacle playing out in Palm Beach, Florida, where armed thugs wearing FBI jackets stormed the residence of former President Trump and his family, ostensibly in search of classified materials stored there, ordinary people see clearly how far a once great nation has already sunk down into the gutter—republic meet banana and forget about rule of law.
Leaving aside valid questions about whether the materials in question were classified or declassified, the raid on Mar-a-Lago is certainly not justified, as Donald Trump and his legal advisors seem to have been cooperating with the National Archives to ensure that Presidential Records remained under federal government control, starkly in contrast with how the Clinton family has handled such records over decades.
So, political insiders who enrich the donor class and use family members to collect spoils from foreign governments are protected in modern America, but outsiders who actually win elections and then try to keep promises and clean up corruption are pounded into oblivion, as influence-shapers cheer?
This raid is a step too far, and it has already backfired spectacularly.
A New Day that will Live in Infamy: August 8, 2022
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--Wikipedia
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So Reverend...
You mean like publishing hoaxes like the Russian collusion hoax?
Do you have a good example of something that the Gateway Pundit has written about that was a giant conspiracy? You know like the media hoax that the President told Americans to drink bleach?
just curious...
No Comment Means No Comment
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/videofinance/white-house-not-commenting-on-trump-mar-a-lago-raid/vi-AA10ugwn?category=foryou
Senate Panel Concludes Russia Interfered in 2016 US Election
The report from the Republican-led panel lays out significant contacts between associates of President Donald Trump and Russian officials.
Associated Press
Published 18 August 2020
WASHINGTON (AP) — Russia launched an aggressive effort to interfere in the 2016 presidential election on behalf of Donald Trump, and associates of the Republican candidate who were in regular touch with* Russians throughout the campaign were eager to benefit from the help,* a Senate panel concluded Tuesday in the fifth and final report in its investigation.
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in regular touch with =
in regular collusion with
eager to benefit from the help =
eager to beneft from the collusion
His worst week in his history 😪
Between the Mueller probe, civil and criminal investigations into his business dealings, two impeachments, and a number of congressional ethics inquiries, then-President Donald Trump was no stranger to legal minefields when he was in the White House.
Trump's personal and financial troubles, coupled with the myriad political controversies he was at the center of, spawned dozens of headlines declaring any number of weeks the "worst" of his presidency (like this one, this one, and this one).
Bad weeks aside, Trump left office relatively unscathed — give or take paying a few million in damages for illegally using Trump Foundation funds and half a dozen of his closest associates being charged with federal crimes.
But this week added a new chapter in the long-running narrative of Trump's post-presidency as he inches closer to running for a second term in 2024.
It started Monday when the FBI executed a search warrant at his Mar-a-Lago golf club in Palm Beach, Florida. Trump wasn't home at the time, but the raid still sent shockwaves through the media and political sphere, as well as the national security community, as the reality set in that there's a very active criminal case against the former president of the United States.
While the public was grappling with the fallout from the FBI's raid, a US appeals court panel in Washington, DC, on Tuesday cleared the way for the powerful House Ways and Means Committee to access years of Trump's closely-held tax returns. That happened on the same day that former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, a longtime Trump loyalist, testified before the House select committee investigating the Capitol attack.
Adding to the week's drama, Trump on Wednesday issued a statement saying he had invoked his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination during a long-awaited deposition with New York attorney general Tish James. James' office is conducting a sprawling investigation into whether the Trump Organization engaged in financial fraud and violated tax, insurance, and banking laws.
"There is no one who would say that Donald didn't have a very bad few days," Michael Cohen, Trump's longtime former lawyer whose home was also raided by the FBI in 2018, told Insider. "The raid on Mar-a-Lago as well as the ability for Congress to obtain Trump's tax returns are the double whammy of trouble for Donald; and he knows it."
Put down the bottle of bleach
The fact the he uses Wikipedia for a source on something other than sports or other banal issues proves his lack of intellect
He’s not smart and the fact he can’t spam every thread with copy pastes, it’s becoming more painfully obvious by the day
Guess what Roger!
Look for Trump's numbers to continue to go "up" after this.
This will just be more confirmation to his supporters that the DOJ and FBI are corrupt and need to be dismantled and replaced.
oooohhh... the "Senate Panel" huh?
Too bad that Comey had to lie to Judges to get warrants and the Mueller probe literally found no proof of any "collusion" between Trump and the Russians.
I guess the "Senate panel" must have been much better investigators than the entire FBI and the $40 million dollar Mueller probe... because they came up lacking with any actual real connection.
Oh... and they ended up dropping the indictment against the Russians they claimed were interfering due to a single problem.
When the Russian companies hired attorneys, asked for discovery and a speedy trial... the Mueller team had to admit to a judge that there was no discovery and that they actually didn't have any evidence!
It
was
a
hoax!
The fact that you still believe it Reverend.
well if you actually care to question why I sometimes think you are dumb?
There you have it!
Where to Start , so , President Biden and Garland did not know of the Raid?
Yet, it happened and the Affidavit is being hidden.
And an example of why I think you are dumb is this thread Hot Air article.
Here are two things that concern me far more than any carping back and forths between you and me, Ch:
FIRST
Tim Alberta asks,
"What comes after the search warrant?
“If Donald Trump committed crimes on his way out of the White House, he should be subject to the same treatment as any other alleged criminal. The reason for this is simple: Ours is a government of laws, not of men, as John Adams once observed. Nobody, not even a president, is above those laws.
“So why did I feel nauseous yesterday, watching coverage of the FBI executing a search warrant at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate?
“Because this country is tracking toward a scale of political violence not seen since the Civil War.
"It’s evident to anyone who spends significant time dwelling in the physical or virtual spaces of the American right.
Go to a gun show.
Visit a right-wing church.
Check out a Trump rally.
No matter the venue, the doomsday prophesying is ubiquitous—and scary.
"Whenever and wherever I’ve heard hypothetical scenarios of imminent conflict articulated, the premise rests on an egregious abuse of power, typically Democrats weaponizing agencies of the state to target their political opponents.
"I’ve always walked away from these experiences thinking to myself:
If America is a powder keg, then one overreach by the government, real or perceived, could light the fuse.”
SECOND:
The Washingon Post says:
"Historians warn Biden democracy is teetering:
“President Biden paused last week, during one of the busiest stretches of his presidency, for a nearly two-hour private history lesson from a group of academics who raised alarms about the dire condition of democracy at home and abroad.
“The conversation during a ferocious lightning storm on Aug. 4 unfolded as a sort of Socratic dialogue between the commander in chief and a select group of scholars, who painted the current moment as among the most perilous in modern history for democratic governance.
“Comparisons were made to the years before the 1860 election when Abraham Lincoln warned that a ‘house divided against itself cannot stand’
and
the lead-up to the 1940 election, when President Franklin D. Roosevelt battled rising domestic sympathy for European fascism and resistance to the United States joining World War II.”
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And in my not so dumb opinion, Ch, the main responsibility for this state of affairs lies right in the lap of people like you -- in the mind numbing fanaticisms you have gone along with and even encouraged ever since Trump was elected, and you've done that even when you had to know better.
And you say I am dumb!
You can’t express any opinion that is your own, you are incapable of formulating and independent thought and expressing…on…your…own….
That’s stupid…
https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe
Just release the warrant. You have it, Donald. Just release it. Relese the warrant!
--Joe Scarborough
Ch calling the FBI the "Gestapo" and saying it has "become a political arm of the Democratic Party and now the personal SS of the Biden Administration..."
No, that's exactly what TRUMP wanted. And said so.
"Total loyalty."
Good Morning!
August 11
Two fanatical paranoid rightwing fringe Republican views:
1) Donald Trump is now the rightful president of the United States.
2) The FBI found nothing that nails Trump in their raid.
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Number one:
Totally discredited.
Number two:
The jury (ahem) is still out.
For those interested in what really is going on:
Lindsey Graham failed to show up at his scheduled, subpoenaed appearance in Georgia investigating whether Trump and others broke any laws in trying to overturn Joe Biden’s 2020 win in that state.
Trump has hired a noted criminal defense attorney in that same case.
Many of his problems are converging now, all at once.
There's also growing paranoia among his supporters.
Producer princes fell during July, the first month-over-month decrease since Covid was declared a pandemic.
A Florida man paid $1,800 to fly a banner reading “ha ha ha ha ha ha” over Mar-a-Lago.
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Info and links at politicalwire.com
Sad that Scotty thought my post on GW was not important enough publish but his QANON BS is !!!!.....well here's another that wraps our legislation to limit it!!!!!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2022/08/11/climate-changes-impact-intensifies-us-is-poised-pass-major-bill/
For residents of the Norwegian archipelago of Svalbard, the United States’ recent success in clinching a major piece of climate change legislation may feel like too little, too late.
Over the past 40 years, as the world’s largest historical emitter of greenhouses gases repeatedly failed to take significant action on the climate, the region surrounding Svalbard has warmed at least four times faster than the global average, according to significant new research published Thursday.
10 steps you can take to lower your carbon footprint
The study suggests that warming in the Arctic is happening at a much faster rate than many scientists had expected. And while U.S. lawmakers this summer hashed out the details of a massive bill to speed their nation’s shift toward cleaner energy — the culmination of months of deliberations — the new findings were just the latest visceral reminder that the planet’s changing climate isn’t waiting around for human action.
So Reverend...
Shouldn't Donald Trump be treated like EVERY OTHER PRESIDENT who has left the White House with information that the National Archives suggests that they should have?
You act as if it is somehow unfair that Trump be allowed to "get away" with things that every President seems to have issue with. Not knowing what documents are supposed to be sent back.
As YOU pointed out from that article the other day... even other Republican Presidents have had issues with the National Archives. Not a one of them was raided or charged with crimes.
But we should all agree that the classified laws should apply equally?
He should be treated the same way Obama was when he left with 30 million pages of documents, the same way that Clinton was when she was found to have hundreds of classified documents on a private server, or even James Comey who admitted that he took classified documents and leaked it to a friend in the press.
If you raid one and charge one... after doing nothing to any one else.
That is not consistency or equal treatment?
Wouldn't you agree?
The FBI agents in question were not that unusual as people in those "jobs" are audited at a much higher rate. A fact explained by some in the media - ignored by others who acted as if they are just random Americans. In fact, the IRS specifically audits a particular percentage of people in those offices and has done so for decades.
There is literally no evidence that the IRS specifically chose people who were fired. Even had they done so... no evidence that there was any connection to anyone outside of the IRS for those decisions
CH ASKS:
Shouldn't Donald Trump be treated like EVERY OTHER PRESIDENT who has left the White House with information that the National Archives suggests that they should have?
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I am under the impression that when Trump was admonished that he had taken some CLASSIFIED documents away from the White House that he should not have taken, he invited FBI agents in and cooperated in giving them some twelve boxes of documents, as if to say those boxes contained all such wrongly taken documents.
It is also my impression that an inside informant told the FBI not only that there WERE still numerous unclassified documents that Trump still had, but WHERE they were being kept, this was information so precise that it convinced a federal judge to approve an FBI raid to obtain those unreported documents.
I believe fifteen boxes of such reputed documents were removed.
As for what all this means, that will surely all come out in the wash (legal proceedings).
Meanwhile, Trump is being shown the courtesy of deciding whether he wishes to release his copy of the warrant and/or the list of objects taken by the FBI. (He was given both, as part of the serving of the warrant.)
As for the affidavit, I think it would/will become available only with or after a trial.
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