One of the many oddities of the Mar-a-Lago search is that it comes in the middle of a criminal investigation (I would say, a number of criminal investigations) to which it may be relevant. In a normal criminal case, the government will wait to execute search warrants until it is ready to end the investigative phase by arresting and charging people. If it has probable cause to get a search warrant, the government nearly always has probable cause for an arrest warrant, too. In fact, quite often the same affidavit is filed to support arrest warrants and search warrants. Investigators would rather wait until the end of their probe to seek both, because investigations are best done in secrecy, without tipping off suspects while evidence is still being covertly gathered. Once suspects know they are under investigation, police and prosecutors worry, they might destroy evidence, work on getting their story straight (which could undermine later interviews), and perhaps even flee.
So one of two things exist here.
- The DOJ had an arrest warrant on Trump but have not executed it as of yet.
- The DOJ has no arrest warrant and again are doing things spectacularity outside of the norms.
But not arresting him (if they had a warrant to do so) would almost seem like they would be bending over backwards to go out of their way to not follow normal procedure in order to not appear political. Would the Biden/Garland DOJ go to an extra length not to follow normal protocol on something this important? Would they do this to cover for Trump and the GOP?
Moreover I find it utterly unbelievable that the DOJ could sit on an arrest warrant against the former President and not have that information leaked. More likely than not there was just a search warrant with no arrest warrant... and the DOJ just undercut their own protocol to make a massive raid on the last day that they are allowed to (under their policy).
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Definitely worth a read. Ace very thoroughly unpacks what's really going on.:
DOJ Argues That Its Warrant Cannot Be Unsealed Because Its Contents Are Too Sensitive While It Continues Leaking the Supposed Contents of This Warrant to All of Its Media Pals
https://ace.mu.nu/archives/400554.php
It's still going well and fast enough
Weisselberg will have to testify at the Oct. 24th trial of the Trump Organization.
"It seems very, very hard to testify truthfully in that case and not implicate Donald Trump
This could be the Al Capon moment in time.
Regarding the affidavit, readers may go to politicalwire.com and get some important information about it, information that appeared there today at 2:32, 3:01, and 3:06 pm.
Regarding the affidavit, readers may go to politicalwire.com and get some important information about it, information that appeared there today at 2:32, 3:01, and 3:06 pm.
I am sure Politicalwire.com will be overrun with people from CHT wandering over to see what is being said!
LOL
I bet lots of Chtruthers go there often to see what's facing them ultimately.
This could be the Al Capon moment in time.
Yep.
I've raised my share of capons many years ago on our "milk cattle ranch*". Never named one 'Al' but I'll keep it in mind for the future.
A capon is a male chicken that is gelded, or castrated, at a young age, and then fed a rich diet of milk or porridge. Larger than a chicken, a bit smaller than a turkey, but more flavorful than either, capons are full breasted with tender, juicy, flavorful meat that is well suited to roasting.
Dee-lish.
*milk cattle ranch. commonly known as a dairy farm.
And while they're over there at politicalwire.com, they might want to note that there are 18 former Trump officials who are telling CNN that they never, ever heard anything about Trump having a "standing order" to delassify documents he took from the Oval Office to the White House residence.
They believe that report to be a lie, and some even laughed at it.
Roger
As explained in the National Review today (you can find the story). There are people acting as if the Trump Organization is Trump rather than a Company.
The only mention of the President is in regards to how the apartments and such were leased. There is no suggestion that Trump or anyone else had anything to do with Weissenberg's taxes.
Technically speaking my company cannot tell me what perks should or should not be taxed. They can decide to withhold taxes or not. Certain types of employment situations have different withholding. But just because an employer doesn't withhold a tax, doesn't mean it's not due. My wife had worked as a contractor for years (received almost no withholding) and was responsible (with a tax accountant) to file tax returns based on her income.
Had she not reported certain types of income... that would not be on her employer, but rather on her tax attorney.
At best... I suppose a company might tell someone that they are giving them a cheap apartment and that there is little chance that they would be audited if they do not claim it. But that would just be someone telling you that you can turn right (when the sign says you cannot) because nobody is ever there to enforce it. If you get caught, it is on you... not the person who told you do to something.
If there is a conspiracy... it would involve people who file or prepare taxes... NOT the person who leased them the apartment.
And while they're over there at politicalwire.com, they might want to note that there are 18 former Trump officials who are telling CNN that they never, ever heard anything about Trump having a "standing order" to delassify documents he took from the Oval Office to the White House residence.
Are they like the 51 former officials who stated that Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation?
I will stick with the USSC precedents about the CIC authority to classify and declassify...
That is... if that is okay with you?
Well lookee here:
"Under the statutory scheme established by the PRA, the decision to segregate personal materials from Presidential records is made by the President, during the President's term and in his sole discretion," Jackson wrote in her March 2012 decision, which was never appealed.
"Since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of Presidential records during his time in office, it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records," she added.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/old-case-over-audio-tapes-bill-clintons-sock-drawer-could-impact
and this over here -
Jackson also concluded that a decision to challenge a president's decision lies solely with the National Archives and can't be reviewed by a court. If the Archives wants to challenge a decision, that agency and the attorney general can initiate an enforcement mechanism under the law, but it is a civil procedure and has no criminal penalty, she noted.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/old-case-over-audio-tapes-bill-clintons-sock-drawer-could-impact
Well son of a bitch...
Pedo google Bubba’s sock drawer
LOL
Scott the FBI has begun asking former Trump administration officials whether they’ve heard of the so-called ‘standing order’ Trump claims to have given.”
Key takeaway: “It’s unclear why a sitting president, who as commander-in-chief was privy to any classified information, would need to declassify work brought to the White House private residence.”
So Roger...
The FBI is telling you what is going on?
RE 4:04 & 4:08
So a former CIC who lost the last election says he did what no one even among his own people can remember him saying or doing.
Sure, Ch.
You can believe that.
Be our guest.
Rat...
This is one of those things where we use two different issues and sort of toss them together.
You will hear that "it doesn't matter" if the records are classified or declassified, because he is not allowed to have them. They need to be with the Archives...
But then they will ignore the fact that the President/Archive is a civil dispute and not a criminal issue and then transpose the penalties.
Ch, why would a CIC who would be privy to all classified information -- why would he need to declassify work he brought to the White House private residence, which is govenment property?
Could you explain that with a few simple words?
Bottom line is that he is facing the Georgia issue and the top secret documents are in New York.
His odds are not good for him.
Plus the Democrats will keep the Senate majority.
And if people like Jim Jordan become the face of the Republican Party.
And by 2024 the economy will have changed the way things happen.
I believe that FBI because Wray was appointed by President Donald Trump.
Ch, why would a CIC who would be privy to all classified information -- why would he need to declassify work he brought to the White House private residence, which is govenment property?
He wouldn't....
He would, however, need to declassify information to take it out of the White House and work on at Mar-a-Lago. Just as Reagan would have had to declassify information to view it at his ranch, Clinton if he was at Epstein's sex island. Bush to see it on his Texas Ranch, Obama if he was in Chicago...
I know this might sound strange.
But Presidents don't really get time off from having to deal with serious things.. and might need to view classified data "outside" of the White House or other secured Government facilities.
I believe that FBI because Wray was appointed by President Donald Trump.
Well that entire comment makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Thursday announced criminal charges against 20 people for illegally voting in 2020, the first major public move from the Republican’s controversial new election Gestapo police unit.
Fascism Florida style 😎
What has an emboldened DOJ done since Bill Barr handed it off to the Biden administration?
Merrick Garland cleared Andrew McCabe, reinstated his pension, and gave him a half a million bucks for his trouble.The DOJ has targeted and tracked protesting parents as domestic terrorists.Merrick Garland has challenged redistricting and voter integrity laws — in red states only.The FBI raided the home of a journalist, seized confidential legal papers, and leaked them to the press.The DOJ has threatened to sue any state that attempts to protect children from sexual grooming.The FBI has raided the home of a former president for no reason that makes any sense.
That is the level of rot that has resulted from Barr's failure to take action.
Now, when he's not supporting the Democrat's "big lie" narrative, Bill Barr is calling for Merrick Garland to appoint a special counsel. He's asking an attorney general who is uninterested in justice to pursue justice. Does he not see the flaw in that reasoning? Has it occurred to him that politely asking evil to be righteous is an exercise in silliness?
I have some advice for Bill Barr. If he really cares about justice, stop asking Merrick Garland to do the right thing, and start calling for his resignation. Lacking that, perhaps he should spend a bit less time criticizing Donald Trump and bit more brainpower reflecting on his own failures.
Fun stuff, FBI lied
Blogger C.H. Truth said...
Rat...
This is one of those things where we use two different issues and sort of toss them together.
You will hear that "it doesn't matter" if the records are classified or declassified, because he is not allowed to have them. They need to be with the Archives...
But then they will ignore the fact that the President/Archive is a civil dispute and not a criminal issue and then transpose the penalties.
And it appears that Garland and the DOJ are just as stupid and clueless as the alky when it comes to making this distinction.
My God did we dodge a USSC bullet with Garland or what? What a fucking assclown.
The Biden Inflation Assurance Act is now law.
As are the " Meat Tax".
Depending on the meat the tax is 3% - 7% higher per pound."
I see CA Gov. Newsom has decided to become a conservative like me on water.
Dig thousands of acres of ponds to capture water, let people use rain collection barrels and repurchase Grey water.
And by 2024 the economy will have changed the way things happen.
Without the ability to incessantly plagiarize, this is the shit that the alky produces from the depths of his pickled cranium.
Another example of the GOP making an issue out of nothing as DeSantis proudly announces that 20 will be arrested for voter fraud in Floriduh!!!!! These 20 are allegedly rapists and murderers who were not included in the amnesty program but voted any way.... I for one will certainly sleep better knowing the millions spent protected the integrity of the 20 million voters in the state...WHAT A FUCKING WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY!!!!!
“It’s 20 people out of millions of voters,” Michael McDonald, an expert on voting and a professor of political science at the University of Florida. “These arrests are inconsequential to the integrity of the electoral system.”
We now have a presidency where the president has delivered the largest economic recovery plan since Roosevelt, the largest infrastructure plan since Eisenhower, the most judges confirmed since Kennedy, the second largest health care bill since Johnson, and the largest climate change bill in history. … The first time we’ve done gun control since President Clinton was here, the first time ever an African American woman has been put on the U.S. Supreme Court. … I think it’s a record to take to the American people.
We're learning that the fbi team leading the raid is the same group that led the Russian collusion, phoney dossier investigations. They worked under Peter strzok and are still there, including a guy named Brian Auten. John Durham has been investigating them for some time now.
Re Ch's "explanation":
Ah, but didn't Trump claim to declassify documments when he took them to his residence in the White House, but nobody remembers him saying or doing anything like that at the time?
Well that entire comment makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Just change the typo that to the, genius.
Happy Friday 😊
Nevertheless, the sheer diversity of the state and federal statutes that Trump may have violated is astounding. All told, it’s four criminal investigations — two federal and two state-based — which together scrutinize Trump’s conduct before, during, and after his presidency. Even if only one of these investigations leads to a conviction, the elderly Trump could potentially spend the rest of his life behind bars. While some of the criminal statutes Trump may have violated carry penalties of only a few years in prison, others carry maximum sentences of up to 20 years.
Trump's FBI is going after him the way the FBI should when a president breaks the law.
You really are gone
Roger thinks arresting people who break the law is fascism. Good grief.
We now have a presidency where the president has delivered the largest economic recovery plan since Roosevelt
But yet... a year and a half after the first "recovery program" we are still not any closer to "recovering"...
And every economists believes that the massive inflation is specifically due to that first recovery plan.
the second recovery plan pushed climate change initiatives while taxing the middle class and adding 87,000 new IRS agents to pay for it.
Believe it or not Reverend!
People are more interested in something "working" than just "doing something". There is a reason why Biden is in the shitter. Because he deserves to be.
see CA Gov. Newsom has decided to become a conservative like me on water.
Dig thousands of acres of ponds to capture water, let people use rain collection barrels and repurchase Grey water.
8 years ago they $7.5 billion $2.7 billion for dams and reservoirs passed and still not a shovel of dirt has been turned. Fuck’em
Capitol Journal: Californians voted to spend billions on more water storage. But state government keeps sitting on the cash
I couldn't help but noticed our esteemed host failed to post this must read piece of how govmt now runs every women's life. wonder if his trophy bride feels about it??????
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/18/opinion/abortion-pregnancy-child-roe.html
My Abortion at 11 Wasn’t a Choice. It Was My Life.
Aug. 18, 2022
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