For now, let me just say that, even as yesterday I spoke about are need to be concerned as all Americans about racial disparities in our criminal justice system."
Fake, empty and stupid, I expect nothing from this Race Baiter and Chief and yet, he can't even deliver on what he was expected to do, HONOR THE MURDER OFFICERS.
I am ashamed for this Nation for having this piece of human filth holding the highest office of this Land.
Then standing on the dead cold bodies of these Fine Multi-Racial Officers, he had to, he had to get in the anti-gun pitch.
The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayers grants to an Israeli group that used the money to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year’s Israeli parliamentary elections, a congressional investigation concluded Tuesday.
DALLAS — President Obama said on Tuesday that the nation mourned along with Dallas for five police officers gunned down by a black Army veteran, but he implored Americans not to give in to despair or the fear that “the center might not hold.”
“I’m here to say that we must reject such despair,” Mr. Obama said at a memorial service for the officers in Dallas. “I’m here to insist that we are not so divided as we seem. I say that because I know America. I know how far we’ve come against impossible odds. I know we’ll make it because of what I’ve experienced in my own life.”
Mr. Obama acknowledged that the killings — “an act not just of demented violence but of racial hatred” — had exposed a “fault line” in American democracy. He said he understood if Americans questioned whether the racial divide would ever be bridged.
“I’m not naïve,” he said. “I’ve spoken at too many memorials during the course of this presidency.”
Mr. Obama acknowledged the limitations of his own words, and quoted from the Gospel of John: “Let us love not with words or speech but with action and in truth.”
Mr. Obama, as he has before, balanced praise for the heroism of police officers with a blunt acknowledgment of racial bias in the criminal justice system. “We can’t simply dismiss it as a symptom of political correctness or reverse racism,” he said.
Behind him, a row of police officers did not clap. But when Mr. Obama added, “We ask the police to do too much, and we ask too little of ourselves,” the officers behind him applauded.
The president appealed for an honest debate over the tensions inherent in policing and the nation’s legacy of racism. “It is forging consensus, and fighting cynicism, and finding the will to make change,” he said.
“I confess that sometimes, too, I experience doubt,” Mr. Obama said. “I’ve been to too many of these things. I’ve seen too many families go through this.”
Mr. Obama approached the effort with the frustration of a man who has poured his heart and soul into similar speeches, only to later feel that nothing has changed and no one is listening. This was the 11th time in his presidency that he sought to comfort a city after a mass killing, and the second time in a month that such a killing grew out of bias.
“The president recognizes that it’s not just people in Dallas who are grieving, it’s people all across the country who are concerned about the violence that so many Americans have witnessed in the last week or so,” Josh Earnest, the White House press secretary, said on Monday.
Mr. Obama’s task was especially tough because Dallas has already undertaken many of the steps that his administration has advocated to improve race relations and foster better community ties with the police. The police chief, David O. Brown, has won high marks for his frank and unsparing remarks after the tragedy.
During a news conference on Monday, Chief Brown, who is black, said that he remained committed to reform, and his message to those protesting police conduct was simple: “Don’t be part of the problem. We’re hiring. Get out of the protest line and put an application in. We’ll put you in your neighborhood.”
The remarks by Mr. Bush, who lives in Dallas, were a rare event in his post-presidency. While in office, Mr. Bush faced his own set of problems with the nation’s racial divisions.
As part of his message of “compassionate conservatism,” Mr. Bush made racial harmony a greater emphasis than many Republicans have in recent decades, and he sought to extend his party’s outreach to African-Americans, though without great electoral success. He won about 11 percent of the black vote in 2004, roughly the same as other modern Republican nominees who did not face Mr. Obama.
Mr. Bush appointed the first and second black secretaries of state and promoted his No Child Left Behind education program in part to help minority students and to combat what he called the “soft bigotry of low expectations.”
This is what it looks like when you have a Real President that is color blind and pro- Law Enforcement: Below is the full transcript of Former President George W. Bush's remarks at the interfaith memorial service honoring five fallen officers in Dallas.
Today the nation grieves. But those of us who love Dallas and call it home have had five deaths in the family. Laura and I see members of law enforcement every day. We count them as our friends. And we know, like for every other American, that their courage is our protection and shield.
We are proud of the men we mourn – and of the community that has rallied to honor them and support the wounded. Our mayor, our police chief, and our police department have been mighty inspirations to the rest of the nation.(Applause.) These slain officers were the best among us.
Lorne Ahrens, beloved husband to Detective Katrina Ahrens and father of two.
Michael Krol, caring son, brother, uncle, nephew, and friend.
Michael Smith, U.S. Army veteran, devoted husband, and father of two.
Brent Thompson, Marine Corps vet, recently married.
Patrick Zamarripa, US Navy Reserve combat veteran, proud father, and loyal Texas Rangers fan. (Applause.)
With their deaths, we have lost so much. We are grief-stricken, heartbroken, and forever grateful."
Every officer has accepted a calling that sets them apart. Most of us imagine, if the moment called for it, that we would risk our lives to protect a spouse or a child. Those wearing the uniform assume that risk for the safety of strangers. They and their families share the unspoken knowledge that each new day can bring new dangers. But none of us were prepared – or could be prepared – for an ambush by hatred and malice. The shock of this evil still has not faded.
At times, it seems like the forces pulling us apart are stronger than the forces binding us together. Argument turns too easily into animosity. Disagreement escalates too quickly into dehumanization. Too often we judge other groups by their worst examples, while judging ourselves by our best intentions. (Applause.) And this has strained our bonds of understanding and common purpose.
But Americans, I think, have a great advantage. To renew our unity, we only need to remember our values. We have never been held together by blood or background. We are bound by things of the spirit – by shared commitments to common ideals.
At our best, we practice empathy, imagining ourselves in the lives and circumstances of others. This is the bridge across our nation’s deepest divisions. And it is not merely a matter of tolerance, but of learning from the struggles and stories of our fellow citizens, and finding our better selves in the process.
At our best, we honor the image of God we see in one another. We recognize that we are brothers and sisters, sharing the same brief moment on earth, and owing each other the loyalty of our shared humanity.
At our best, we know we have one country, one future, one destiny. We do not want the unity of grief. Nor do we want the unity of fear. We want the unity of hope, affection, and high purpose.
We know that the kind of just, humane country we want to build – that we have seen in our best dreams – is made possible when men and women in uniform stand guard. At their best, when they are trained and trusted and accountable, they free us from fear.
The Apostle Paul said, “For God gave us a spirit not of fear, but of strength and love and self-control.” Those are the best responses to fear in the life of our country. And they are the code of the peace officer.
Today, all of us feel a sense of loss – but not equally. I’d like to conclude with a word to the families, the spouses, and especially the children of the fallen. Your loved one’s time with you was too short, and they did not get the chance to properly say goodbye. But they went where duty called. They defended us, even to the end. They finished well. We will not forget what they did for us.
Your loss is unfair. We cannot explain it. We can stand beside you and share your grief. And we can pray that God will comfort you with a hope deeper than sorrow and stronger
Mr. Obama, his speech called for greater understanding from all sides of the debate while emphasizing that race relations are much improved since the 1960s.
“When we start suggesting that somehow there is this enormous polarization and we’re back to the situation in the 1960s — that’s just not true,” Mr. Obama said on Saturday at a news conference in Warsaw. “You’re not seeing riots, and you’re not seeing police going after people who are protesting peacefully.”
Rather, concerns about police conduct have grown, he believes, in part because of the wide distribution of videos of the police on social media, which have heightened awareness even as episodes of improper behavior have declined.
“And the fact that we’re aware of it may increase some anxiety right now, and hurt and anger,” Mr. Obama said over the weekend. “But it’s been said, sunshine is the best disinfectant.”
Actually , you idiot parrot, race relations are not better since your boy took over.
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- More than a third (35%) of Americans now say they are worried "a great deal" about race relations in the U.S. -- which is higher than at any time since Gallup first asked the question in 2001. The percentage who are worried a great deal rose seven percentage points in the past year and has more than doubled in the past two years."
What happened to the Post Racial Liberals?
When the ONE took over in 2009 race relations was at 15 percent of the people worried "a great deal" now thru the unleashed thugs supported, paid for and directed by the left --- it is at 35 %, yet another victory for the liberals.
Race relations may be better today, than they were back in the 1700's, 1800's, the 1920s the 1940's or even the 1960s.
The only question serving our interests right now is are race relations better or worse than they were when Obama took office. I'd have to say they are substantially worse.
And what do you think will be the judgment of historians as to why?
If we are talking about "real" historians who have "real" brains, they will point to the obvious things like the rise of Black Live's Matters, the racial protests, and probably more importantly, the ability to use social media to create a firestorm with limited information.
You believe that 10-15 years ago, the story of Brown or Castile ever would have become so well known? There was no such thing as "going viral" or anything like that. Nobody would have heard much from some of these witnesses (who in 2016 have the ability to simply toss out completely false narratives that stick because it's the first thing people heard).
Lastly, and certainly not least... we have a President who is extremely knee jerk in his reactions to these things, and that either fires up those who agree with him (and makes them feel justified) or basically pisses off those who think he should wait for the facts before passing judgement.
Btw... the entire concept of Castile being shot over a routine traffic stop looks to be a complete fabrication by the girlfriend. There is no suggestion in any of the radio communications between the police officers and dispatch that they were pulling over Castile for a tail light. The recordings actually have the cops stating that the vehicle and driver matched the description of a crime that had just been reported and that Cops were supposed to be on the lookout for. It may well be the reason that both cops came to the car, not just one.
Now that's not to say that Castile was the actual perpetrator. Obviously we don't know that. But suffice it to say that if the police officer was pulling over a criminal suspect (rather than making a routine traffic stop) then the tension over the driver having and showing a gun would have been a little different.
That must be why they got the firm support of David Duke, were charged with racism by the N.A.A.C.P., and got criticism from much of the Republican party for their sometimes slightly "veiled" racist language.
Strange too that excessive government spending was not an issue when Bush was driving up the deficit to never before seen heights, but became an issue soon after a black man was elected President.
And the the continual attack on undocumented workers -- that was in no way racist.
You believe that 10-15 years ago, the story of Brown or Castile ever would have become so well known? _________________
No, because back then we did not have people walking around with telephone video recording devices that could give us graphic pictures of violence being done:
For example, a fleeing black man being shot repeatedly in the back. If that recording had not been made, the officer in question would not have been so much as charged.
If I recall correctly (and I only recall because it was so laughable)... the NAACP wasted how many months investigating the 20% of Americans who stated they were supportive of the movement... you know, like 60-70 million or so... I think they came up with about a half dozen members they found to be dubious.
So by their own logic, the Tea Party movement can be defined as racist, because they found that approximately 0.00001% of them had some history of racism.
Again, unless someone is "really stupid" - they are not going to blame the race problems we have on the Tea Party. I mean, can you seriously remember any racial problems at any Tea Party rally short of the Congressman who claimed to be spit on, while there were about a half dozen videos from about a half dozen angles showing no such person spitting?
6:01 Were the suspect and girlfriend told WHY they were being pulled over?
I don't know James... and neither do you.
But that's besides the point. The point is that the actual facts of the situation seem to point to the fact that the cop was not making a routine traffic stop. Even the President got up in front of America and made the case that someone shouldn't be shot over a traffic stop.
Apparently the President of the United States didn't have the facts. He got suckered into making a knee jerk statement based on a viral F.B. video.
To not put a fine point on it. I never heard one Tea Party slogan or rally cry that has inspire anybody to kill a person be it black, white, hispanic, etc. etc.
As opposed to these BLM slogans:
What do we want? Dead cops!! When do we want it? Now!!!
6:31 It's not entirely beside the point, Ch. If they were TOLD they were being stopped for a busted tail pipe, that would explain why the girlfriend said that's why they were stopped.
And by the way, she DID say her boyfriend was reaching for his wallet when the policeman started shooting, as I earlier said.
"Even the President got up in front of America and made the case that someone shouldn't be shot over a traffic stop."
Yeah, nor should someone be shot for being a SUSPECTED rather than actual perpetrator. _____________
A few years ago, I got pulled over on the way to NC. I couldn't understand why. The officer said I had been speeding and when I said I was going the same speed as everyone else, he said I had sped "earlier."
I sat in the car wondering about this and noticed in my rear view mirror that he was spending quite a lot of time on the telephone in his car. Finally he returned to my car, handed my my papers, said, "Mistaken identity," and let me go.
James - what the girlfriend said is what the girlfriend said. We cannot hold any of it to be true, just because it was said. I find it odd that this concept escapes you.
And what she said is "completely" besides the point as to the actual facts of the situation. If the officer in question believed that this was a potential crime suspect. Then it's not a routine traffic stop for the officer in question. The officer was the one who drew a gun and shot someone. It was "his" state of mind in question, not the girlfriends. What she believed is totally irrelevant to the cop's state of mind.
Seems to be a different situation if you believe it's a routine traffic stop, and a possible criminal apprehension situation.. especially when it's noted that there is a gun involved. Unless you believe that the police have the same protocol when they pull over a suspect that they may have to arrest as they do when they pull someone over for a missing tail light.
At the end of the day, the President referring to it as a routine traffic stop is still wrong if dispatch records say the cop was pulling over a suspected criminal. Again, not that I am either stating or assuming that Castile was in fact the right suspect.
- what the girlfriend said is what the girlfriend said. We cannot hold any of it to be true, just because it was said. I find it odd that this concept escapes you. ___________________
I find it odd that you seem determined to assume that she was lying. Why?
She was very distraught. The words came tumbling out. If the two of them had been told they were being stopped because of a busted tail-pipe/busted tail-light/whatever, I can understand why she would have thought it made even less sense for her boyfriend to get shot.
I find it odd that you seem determined to assume that she was lying. Why?
Well either the dispatch tape is wrong, or she is. That doesn't necessarily mean she lied. But if she did lie, she wouldn't be the first witness in a cop shooting to blatantly lie.
And if anyone on the law enforcement side lied (and I'm not saying they did), that would not be the first time that happened, either -- as the FINALLY released Chicago video tape made clear.
(The suspect clearly did NOT "lunge" at the police as was claimed before he was shot.)
Blogger James said... Gosh, Ch says 20% of Americans were Tea Partyers. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
no, fuckstick. he said 20% were supportive of the movement. i'm one of them. i never went to a rally, donated to the cause, or joined a specific chapter, but i supported the tea - taxed enough already - party's message and mission.
why don't you take your partisan dishonesty over to alky's gin-soaked playpen. lord knows he needs the comments.
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Obviously, you didn't watch his speech.
He gave a speech, always be campaigning and I thought he went there in honor of the Dallas Five that were murdered by a racist fucktard.
“I think it’s very hard to untangle the motives of this shooter,” Mr. Obama said of the gunman, Micah X. Johnson.
sure skeets. sure.
you knew EXACTLY what motivated dylan roof in charleston, but dallas?
yeah, dallas is going to take a while to untangle.
For now, let me just say that, even as yesterday I spoke about are need to be concerned as all Americans about racial disparities in our criminal justice system."
Fake, empty and stupid, I expect nothing from this Race Baiter and Chief and yet, he can't even deliver on what he was expected to do, HONOR THE MURDER OFFICERS.
I am ashamed for this Nation for having this piece of human filth holding the highest office of this Land.
Then standing on the dead cold bodies of these Fine Multi-Racial Officers, he had to, he had to get in the anti-gun pitch.
What a fuck.
our tax dollar$ at work:
The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayers grants to an Israeli group that used the money to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year’s Israeli parliamentary elections, a congressional investigation concluded Tuesday.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-admin-sent-taxpayer-money-oust-netanyahu/
DALLAS — President Obama said on Tuesday that the nation mourned along with Dallas for five police officers gunned down by a black Army veteran, but he implored Americans not to give in to despair or the fear that “the center might not hold.”
“I’m here to say that we must reject such despair,” Mr. Obama said at a memorial service for the officers in Dallas. “I’m here to insist that we are not so divided as we seem. I say that because I know America. I know how far we’ve come against impossible odds. I know we’ll make it because of what I’ve experienced in my own life.”
Mr. Obama acknowledged that the killings — “an act not just of demented violence but of racial hatred” — had exposed a “fault line” in American democracy. He said he understood if Americans questioned whether the racial divide would ever be bridged.
“I’m not naïve,” he said. “I’ve spoken at too many memorials during the course of this presidency.”
Mr. Obama acknowledged the limitations of his own words, and quoted from the Gospel of John: “Let us love not with words or speech but with action and in truth.”
Mr. Obama, as he has before, balanced praise for the heroism of police officers with a blunt acknowledgment of racial bias in the criminal justice system. “We can’t simply dismiss it as a symptom of political correctness or reverse racism,” he said.
Behind him, a row of police officers did not clap. But when Mr. Obama added, “We ask the police to do too much, and we ask too little of ourselves,” the officers behind him applauded.
The president appealed for an honest debate over the tensions inherent in policing and the nation’s legacy of racism. “It is forging consensus, and fighting cynicism, and finding the will to make change,” he said.
“I confess that sometimes, too, I experience doubt,” Mr. Obama said. “I’ve been to too many of these things. I’ve seen too many families go through this.”
Mr. Obama approached the effort with the frustration of a man who has poured his heart and soul into similar speeches, only to later feel that nothing has changed and no one is listening. This was the 11th time in his presidency that he sought to comfort a city after a mass killing, and the second time in a month that such a killing grew out of bias.
“The president recognizes that it’s not just people in Dallas who are grieving, it’s people all across the country who are concerned about the violence that so many Americans have witnessed in the last week or so,” Josh Earnest, the White House press secretary, said on Monday.
Mr. Obama’s task was especially tough because Dallas has already undertaken many of the steps that his administration has advocated to improve race relations and foster better community ties with the police. The police chief, David O. Brown, has won high marks for his frank and unsparing remarks after the tragedy.
During a news conference on Monday, Chief Brown, who is black, said that he remained committed to reform, and his message to those protesting police conduct was simple: “Don’t be part of the problem. We’re hiring. Get out of the protest line and put an application in. We’ll put you in your neighborhood.”
The remarks by Mr. Bush, who lives in Dallas, were a rare event in his post-presidency. While in office, Mr. Bush faced his own set of problems with the nation’s racial divisions.
As part of his message of “compassionate conservatism,” Mr. Bush made racial harmony a greater emphasis than many Republicans have in recent decades, and he sought to extend his party’s outreach to African-Americans, though without great electoral success. He won about 11 percent of the black vote in 2004, roughly the same as other modern Republican nominees who did not face Mr. Obama.
Mr. Bush appointed the first and second black secretaries of state and promoted his No Child Left Behind education program in part to help minority students and to combat what he called the “soft bigotry of low expectations.”
This is what it looks like when you have a Real President that is color blind and pro- Law Enforcement:
Below is the full transcript of Former President George W. Bush's remarks at the interfaith memorial service honoring five fallen officers in Dallas.
Today the nation grieves. But those of us who love Dallas and call it home have had five deaths in the family. Laura and I see members of law enforcement every day. We count them as our friends. And we know, like for every other American, that their courage is our protection and shield.
We are proud of the men we mourn – and of the community that has rallied to honor them and support the wounded. Our mayor, our police chief, and our police department have been mighty inspirations to the rest of the nation.(Applause.) These slain officers were the best among us.
Lorne Ahrens, beloved husband to Detective Katrina Ahrens and father of two.
Michael Krol, caring son, brother, uncle, nephew, and friend.
Michael Smith, U.S. Army veteran, devoted husband, and father of two.
Brent Thompson, Marine Corps vet, recently married.
Patrick Zamarripa, US Navy Reserve combat veteran, proud father, and loyal Texas Rangers fan. (Applause.)
With their deaths, we have lost so much. We are grief-stricken, heartbroken, and forever grateful."
Every officer has accepted a calling that sets them apart. Most of us imagine, if the moment called for it, that we would risk our lives to protect a spouse or a child. Those wearing the uniform assume that risk for the safety of strangers. They and their families share the unspoken knowledge that each new day can bring new dangers. But none of us were prepared – or could be prepared – for an ambush by hatred and malice. The shock of this evil still has not faded.
At times, it seems like the forces pulling us apart are stronger than the forces binding us together. Argument turns too easily into animosity. Disagreement escalates too quickly into dehumanization. Too often we judge other groups by their worst examples, while judging ourselves by our best intentions. (Applause.) And this has strained our bonds of understanding and common purpose.
But Americans, I think, have a great advantage. To renew our unity, we only need to remember our values. We have never been held together by blood or background. We are bound by things of the spirit – by shared commitments to common ideals.
At our best, we practice empathy, imagining ourselves in the lives and circumstances of others. This is the bridge across our nation’s deepest divisions. And it is not merely a matter of tolerance, but of learning from the struggles and stories of our fellow citizens, and finding our better selves in the process.
At our best, we honor the image of God we see in one another. We recognize that we are brothers and sisters, sharing the same brief moment on earth, and owing each other the loyalty of our shared humanity.
At our best, we know we have one country, one future, one destiny. We do not want the unity of grief. Nor do we want the unity of fear. We want the unity of hope, affection, and high purpose.
We know that the kind of just, humane country we want to build – that we have seen in our best dreams – is made possible when men and women in uniform stand guard. At their best, when they are trained and trusted and accountable, they free us from fear.
The Apostle Paul said, “For God gave us a spirit not of fear, but of strength and love and self-control.” Those are the best responses to fear in the life of our country. And they are the code of the peace officer.
Today, all of us feel a sense of loss – but not equally. I’d like to conclude with a word to the families, the spouses, and especially the children of the fallen. Your loved one’s time with you was too short, and they did not get the chance to properly say goodbye. But they went where duty called. They defended us, even to the end. They finished well. We will not forget what they did for us.
Your loss is unfair. We cannot explain it. We can stand beside you and share your grief. And we can pray that God will comfort you with a hope deeper than sorrow and stronger
"
Mr. Obama, his speech called for greater understanding from all sides of the debate while emphasizing that race relations are much improved since the 1960s.
“When we start suggesting that somehow there is this enormous polarization and we’re back to the situation in the 1960s — that’s just not true,” Mr. Obama said on Saturday at a news conference in Warsaw. “You’re not seeing riots, and you’re not seeing police going after people who are protesting peacefully.”
Rather, concerns about police conduct have grown, he believes, in part because of the wide distribution of videos of the police on social media, which have heightened awareness even as episodes of improper behavior have declined.
“And the fact that we’re aware of it may increase some anxiety right now, and hurt and anger,” Mr. Obama said over the weekend. “But it’s been said, sunshine is the best disinfectant.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/13/us/politics/obama-dallas-attacks-speech.html
Actually , you idiot parrot, race relations are not better since your boy took over.
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- More than a third (35%) of Americans now say they are worried "a great deal" about race relations in the U.S. -- which is higher than at any time since Gallup first asked the question in 2001. The percentage who are worried a great deal rose seven percentage points in the past year and has more than doubled in the past two years."
What happened to the Post Racial Liberals?
When the ONE took over in 2009 race relations was at 15 percent of the people worried "a great deal" now thru the unleashed thugs supported, paid for and directed by the left --- it is at 35 %, yet another victory for the liberals.
One president appealed to the better angles of our nature.
The other appealed to racial divisiveness.
It was sad to see the contrast.
Race relations may be better today, than they were back in the 1700's, 1800's, the 1920s the 1940's or even the 1960s.
The only question serving our interests right now is are race relations better or worse than they were when Obama took office. I'd have to say they are substantially worse.
Commonsense said...
One president appealed to the better angles of our nature.
The other appealed to racial divisiveness.
It was sad to see the contrast. "
yes, I agree it was, stark as different as White and Black.
The speeches of the two presidents were both fine.
I'd have to say they are substantially worse.
________________
And what do you think will be the judgment of historians as to why?
Tea Party come to mind?
The only man in the country confused by the motivation of the Dallas shooter....
________________
“an act not just of demented violence but of racial hatred”
Racial hatred sounds like a motivation to me.
Barack Obama's divisive policies. He never misses a chance to lecture white Americans while giving extremist like black lives matter a pass.
The Tea Party are the resistance fighters to the overweening Borg like federal government.
The Tea Party was never about race.
They formed in response to Obama's health care takeover.
And what do you think will be the judgment of historians as to why?
If we are talking about "real" historians who have "real" brains, they will point to the obvious things like the rise of Black Live's Matters, the racial protests, and probably more importantly, the ability to use social media to create a firestorm with limited information.
You believe that 10-15 years ago, the story of Brown or Castile ever would have become so well known? There was no such thing as "going viral" or anything like that. Nobody would have heard much from some of these witnesses (who in 2016 have the ability to simply toss out completely false narratives that stick because it's the first thing people heard).
Lastly, and certainly not least... we have a President who is extremely knee jerk in his reactions to these things, and that either fires up those who agree with him (and makes them feel justified) or basically pisses off those who think he should wait for the facts before passing judgement.
Btw... the entire concept of Castile being shot over a routine traffic stop looks to be a complete fabrication by the girlfriend. There is no suggestion in any of the radio communications between the police officers and dispatch that they were pulling over Castile for a tail light. The recordings actually have the cops stating that the vehicle and driver matched the description of a crime that had just been reported and that Cops were supposed to be on the lookout for. It may well be the reason that both cops came to the car, not just one.
Now that's not to say that Castile was the actual perpetrator. Obviously we don't know that. But suffice it to say that if the police officer was pulling over a criminal suspect (rather than making a routine traffic stop) then the tension over the driver having and showing a gun would have been a little different.
The Tea Party was never about race.
That must be why they got the firm support of David Duke, were charged with racism by the N.A.A.C.P., and got criticism from much of the Republican party for their sometimes slightly "veiled" racist language.
Strange too that excessive government spending was not an issue when Bush was driving up the deficit to never before seen heights, but became an issue soon after a black man was elected President.
And the the continual attack on undocumented workers -- that was in no way racist.
You believe that 10-15 years ago, the story of Brown or Castile ever would have become so well known?
_________________
No, because back then we did not have people walking around with telephone video recording devices that could give us graphic pictures of violence being done:
For example, a fleeing black man being shot repeatedly in the back. If that recording had not been made, the officer in question would not have been so much as charged.
6:01 Were the suspect and girlfriend told WHY they were being pulled over?
Police often cite a lesser matter to make a stop while investigating a greater matter.
You seem knee jerk yourself.
That must be why they got the firm support of David Duke,
David Duke would sing the praises of Barack Obama if he thought it would get him ahead politically.
Calling a group racist does not make it so. They have the show they're racist like BLM does every day.
BTW don't you think the acronym N.A.A.C.P. is a tad bit racist? I do.
were charged with racism by the N.A.A.C.P.
If I recall correctly (and I only recall because it was so laughable)... the NAACP wasted how many months investigating the 20% of Americans who stated they were supportive of the movement... you know, like 60-70 million or so... I think they came up with about a half dozen members they found to be dubious.
So by their own logic, the Tea Party movement can be defined as racist, because they found that approximately 0.00001% of them had some history of racism.
Again, unless someone is "really stupid" - they are not going to blame the race problems we have on the Tea Party. I mean, can you seriously remember any racial problems at any Tea Party rally short of the Congressman who claimed to be spit on, while there were about a half dozen videos from about a half dozen angles showing no such person spitting?
6:01 Were the suspect and girlfriend told WHY they were being pulled over?
I don't know James... and neither do you.
But that's besides the point. The point is that the actual facts of the situation seem to point to the fact that the cop was not making a routine traffic stop. Even the President got up in front of America and made the case that someone shouldn't be shot over a traffic stop.
Apparently the President of the United States didn't have the facts. He got suckered into making a knee jerk statement based on a viral F.B. video.
To not put a fine point on it. I never heard one Tea Party slogan or rally cry that has inspire anybody to kill a person be it black, white, hispanic, etc. etc.
As opposed to these BLM slogans:
What do we want? Dead cops!! When do we want it? Now!!!
Pigs in a blanket!!! Fry em like bacon!!!
6:31 It's not entirely beside the point, Ch.
If they were TOLD they were being stopped
for a busted tail pipe, that would explain
why the girlfriend said that's why they were stopped.
And by the way, she DID say her boyfriend was reaching for his wallet when the policeman started shooting, as I earlier said.
"Even the President got up in front of America and made the case that someone shouldn't be shot over a traffic stop."
Yeah, nor should someone be shot for being a SUSPECTED rather than actual perpetrator.
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A few years ago, I got pulled over on the way to NC. I couldn't understand why. The officer said I had been speeding and when I said I was going the same speed as everyone else, he said I had sped "earlier."
I sat in the car wondering about this and noticed in my rear view mirror that he was spending quite a lot of time on the telephone in his car. Finally he returned to my car, handed my my papers, said, "Mistaken identity," and let me go.
I was not shot. But then I happen to be white.
James - what the girlfriend said is what the girlfriend said. We cannot hold any of it to be true, just because it was said. I find it odd that this concept escapes you.
And what she said is "completely" besides the point as to the actual facts of the situation. If the officer in question believed that this was a potential crime suspect. Then it's not a routine traffic stop for the officer in question. The officer was the one who drew a gun and shot someone. It was "his" state of mind in question, not the girlfriends. What she believed is totally irrelevant to the cop's state of mind.
Seems to be a different situation if you believe it's a routine traffic stop, and a possible criminal apprehension situation.. especially when it's noted that there is a gun involved. Unless you believe that the police have the same protocol when they pull over a suspect that they may have to arrest as they do when they pull someone over for a missing tail light.
At the end of the day, the President referring to it as a routine traffic stop is still wrong if dispatch records say the cop was pulling over a suspected criminal. Again, not that I am either stating or assuming that Castile was in fact the right suspect.
I was not shot. But then I happen to be white.
I am guessing you also didn't have a concealed gun.
- what the girlfriend said is what the girlfriend said. We cannot hold any of it to be true, just because it was said. I find it odd that this concept escapes you.
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I find it odd that you seem determined to assume that she was lying. Why?
She was very distraught. The words came tumbling out. If the two of them had been told they were being stopped because of a busted tail-pipe/busted tail-light/whatever, I can understand why she would have thought it made even less sense for her boyfriend to get shot.
I find it odd that you seem determined to assume that she was lying. Why?
Well either the dispatch tape is wrong, or she is. That doesn't necessarily mean she lied. But if she did lie, she wouldn't be the first witness in a cop shooting to blatantly lie.
Dies james really not know what started the tea party?
Here's a hint for the obtuse.. tea stands for taxed enough already. So James can take his racist accusations and shove them.
And if anyone on the law enforcement side lied (and I'm not saying they did), that would not be the first time that happened, either -- as the FINALLY released Chicago video tape made clear.
(The suspect clearly did NOT "lunge" at the police as was claimed before he was shot.)
Gosh, Ch says 20% of Americans were Tea Partyers.
I thought it was only about 20% of Republicans who were Tea Partyers.
No actually many nonrepublicans are tea party supporters. Especially Indies and libertarians.
TPs are not the old neocons.
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Gosh, Ch says 20% of Americans were Tea Partyers.
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no, fuckstick. he said 20% were supportive of the movement. i'm one of them. i never went to a rally, donated to the cause, or joined a specific chapter, but i supported the tea - taxed enough already - party's message and mission.
why don't you take your partisan dishonesty over to alky's gin-soaked playpen. lord knows he needs the comments.
and he sure does covet those sacred 'page views.'
Dishonesty is the bedrock of liberalism.
(to paraphrase a great man)
I posted the latest swing state polls on my blog.
Trump is ahead in Pennsylvania and Florida and is tied with Clinton in Ohio.
Clinton had an eight point lead last month.
The Tea Party was never about race." CS
This one comment above so enraged HB, he had to post a thread and lie about the Taxed Enough Already.
Is there one person here on this blog that believes they are not taxed ENOUGH?
As the Poll go for President Trump watch for the violence financially supported by Hillary's camp get worse.
I again watched and read the text of President Obama's "I" campaign Speech and President Bush "we" words honoring the fallen Officers.
It was a contrast not normally so Black and White, but , it is former President Bush was outstanding in every way. His wife so classy and humble.
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