Donald Trump has effectively climbed within "one" state of Hillary Clinton in the "no toss up" Real Clear Politics map. This would actually qualify under most circumstances as a shocking change of momentum, if not for the fact that this has been what has continually happened during this election season.
If I had a dollar for every time some pundit has suggested that this election was over I might be able to retire. If I had five for every prediction of a Clinton blowout I could retire rich.
For those who have repeatedly criticized me for not jumping on the "Hillary in a landslide" bandwagon, I might want to suggest that I told you so. But that also assumes that nothing else happens over the next week to change the race again. The consistent point I have made about this election is that in many ways it's not like others, and cannot be treated as such. But that in many ways it's "exactly" like others, and therefor some of the natural trend lines that would probably show a close election with a slight advantage to the GOP cannot be ignored. As I have stated over and over and over... no matter how many times some Donald Trump bombshell scandal broke to put Clinton out in the lead... some very strong political gravity has continually pulled her back down to the mid forties in the four way race.
This is where it becomes interesting. With both candidates wallowing in the mid forties, and third Party support and undecided making up nearly twelve percent of the polling samples there is a great deal of wiggle room for lots of different scenarios. Hillary could still win by a comfortable margin. But she could also lose uncomfortably.
For Trump, his challenge is to turn one more blue state on this map to red. On paper that would appear to be a daunting challenge. But quite honestly we may not see enough state polling before the election to completely digest the events of the past few days. Moreover, we still have no idea if this year's polling "assumptions" about a large Democratic turnout will hold up on election day. I still agree with Silver and others who suggest that if Trump wins the popular vote, that there are many states (Colorado, New Hampshire, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin) that will come into play for him.
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CH SAYS: For Trump, his challenge is to turn one more blue state on this map to red.
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So simple it is not. The challenge is also to keep FL, NC, AZ, NV and perhaps some other state(s) from ultimately going blue.
CH SAYS: Hillary could still win by a comfortable margin. But she could also lose uncomfortably.
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I agree. But consider this:
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-election-day/analysis-hillary-clintons-path-270-appears-unchanged-n676581
James - your argument is always the same.
"Someone disagrees with cht, therefor cht must be wrong."
It's a tiresome and quite frankly an insulting argument.
But here is the deal James. The current state of the race is "still" built on the assumption of the same pollsters that are giving Clinton a reasonable (and sometimes large) national polling lead.
If, it turns out that Trump wins the popular vote nationally. That would mean that the pollsters like LA Times and Peoples Pundit were right and that many of these other pollsters were wrong. If those other pollsters were wrong nationally, it would naturally follow that they were wrong in state races as well.
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But since you don't trust me... Trust Nate Silver. He currently shows Clinton with a 3.2% national lead. Let's say Trump wins by 2 points. That would be a five point swing from what he is expecting.
Now go to his projection page and look at his state rankings. Move them by the five points he would hypothetically be wrong overall... tell me how many states flip and whether or not a two point Trump victory "could" turn into a pretty large ECV win.
Oh the small incestuous little world of Washington.
Americans now have reason to wonder about the other debates and who else in the so-called unbiased media world was seeking to assist the Clinton campaign by sneaking her a preview of questions or tilting the news in her favor. Such thinking is no longer cynical; it's just realistic as we've seen just how widespread the corruption and bias goes.
And if people are willing to cheat in the debates, what else wouldn’t they justify cheating on to accomplish their ends?
It is precisely the repeated revelations of cheating at debates, inciting violence at rallies, and collusion between the DNC and their dirty tricksters, that lead many Americans to believe — not unreasonably — that, given just a whiff of deniability, these same people would unhesitatingly attempt to rig the election.
Count on Hillary Clinton to respond as she always does: Deny any knowledge of the wrong doing, (because you see, you can’t actually prove that she actually saw fill-in-the-blank), blame someone else, (the Russians have become the Democrat’s iteration of “the dog ate my homework”), and distract the American people with the idea that there is a vast conspiracy out to get her (projection, anyone?)
When first caught, Brazile followed the same playbook, deflecting from the veracity of the emails and distracting with claims of persecution.
She wanted voters to think it's nothing but a dirty political trick to expose the ugly truth of such back-dealing, but in a different era this was called whistle-blowing and celebrated.
There is a whole cohort of politically powerful or connected people in Clinton’s orbit who apparently think rules and boundaries are for other people, not for them. Wikileaks, among others, is hoisting them on their own petard.
The American people have quite had it with this privileged, hypocritical crew. In one week, to paraphrase Michael Moore, watch many of them lob in a legal molatov cocktail called Donald J. Trump to blow up entire stinking the swamp.
In james' defense, he doesn't understand any of this - which is why he's only capable of posting the opinions of others over and over.
Like Roger, he's in way over his head and they're both too stupid to know it.
"t is precisely the repeated revelations of cheating at debates, inciting violence at rallies, and collusion between the DNC and their dirty tricksters, that lead many Americans to believe — not unreasonably — that, given just a whiff of deniability, these same people would unhesitatingly attempt to rig the election."
CNN should lose their license. It was bad enough railroading Sanders, but they took it to a another level feeding Hillary questions and answers.
Their wine and lovefest after the coronation of Hillary was a "f*ck you" moment. Hell, I'll bet it took Wolfe days to sober up after THAT party.
Ch, I am aware of the fact that Nate Silver has stated the case as you stated it. And yet that does not detract from what I said in response to your use of the map you posted. Hillary is already winning -- barely (273)-- on that map, and we would have to assume that ALL of the red states shown there remain red--which much of the polling suggests will/may not be the case -- for Trump to win.
I will agree, however, that if Trump were to (continue to?) surge, that could be very problematic indeed for Clinton and her supporters.
But again, I refer you to the link at 9:33.
November 2, 2016 at 9:53 AM
Cali's Post, a Must Read .
Thanks Cali, you called the massive ObamaCare tax hikes, yes, when one is forced under penalty of law to take money earned and purchase an unwanted item, that is a tax, not complicated people, not at all.
Bill the Rapist called Obamacare the Crazist thing in the world, that hurts small business owners, yes we know.
When Bill the Rapist was ask about it, he Clintoned*. Said he never said it.
*Verb, to Clinton = to lie"
Conversely, to be fair, we would also have to assume that none of the blue states there turn red for Trump to lose.
Hillary is already winning " Ever wonder what delusional looks like.
No one is "Winning" the votes have not all been cast, nor counted.
The polls are but a guess.
Blogger Loretta Russo said...
In james' defense, he doesn't understand any of this - which is why he's only capable of posting the opinions of others over and over.
Like Roger, he's in way over his head and they're both too stupid to know it.
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neither one of them have a clue. ol' rog has been reduced to posting "occupy democrats!!!11!" propaganda over on the legacy blog.
LOL.
http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/11/02/trump-panics-as-28-of-florida-gop-early-votes-go-to-hillary-clinton/
LOL, dumbass.
James - the article from NBC is nothing that I haven't read from others. But the fact of the matter is that they are simply wrong. In fact, they almost couldn't be "more wrong".
A projection such as this should not be made on who is marginally ahead or behind in specific states. Even it it was, the amount of ECV that have changed over the past week or so on RCP proves that Clinton's margin of error has decreased dramatically.
Being ahead in states offering 322 ECV is better than being ahead in states that offer 272 ELC. That (BY DEFINITION) means that her chances are not as good as they were a week ago.
All that being said, the fact is that other states (such as Colorado - showing two polls this week at 1 point and 3 points) have moved "towards" Trump.
So she went from being favored in states carrying 322 ECV
to being favored in states carrying 273 ECV
On top of that, several of the states she needs to carry 273 (and any one state can tip the election) the polls are tightening, and in some cases within the Margin of Error.
So her chances have gone down.... fairly dramatically (even if she is still favored by most accounts). Period. End of Subject. The NBC article is simply wrong on fact.
Re the stupid statement at 10:51.
What I really said is that "Hillary is already winning -- barely (273)-- on that map..."
I repeat: ON THAT MAP.
The NBC article is simply wrong on fact.
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and i'm certain that NBC knows they're wrong and at this point are so panicked at the prospect of a trump victory they have been reduced to publishing demonstrably false stories either in an attempt to sway undecideds (as if there are any of those left) or to pander to imbeciles like roger and james.
and in the case of roger and james it's working.
Project veritas has another video out with a top dem donor saying blacks are f*cked in the head.
Hillary hates blacks. And they're not coming out for her.
Just remember. If and I think when, Clinton takes Florida, the devastation begins.
The NBC article did not say that there has been NO change, only that
"...The reality is that Clinton's chances of winning 270 electoral votes have hardly changed from last week."
Not "no change" but "hardly changed."
Not "no change" but essentially little change.
They claim that her path to 270 and probably beyond is essentially assured.
New poll has Trump +1 in PA.
1980 here we come
James, remember that when anyone, and I mean anyone, disagrees with our esteemed host, try are by default, wrong or intellectually dishonest. His belief in himself is absolute.
If and I think when, Clinton takes Florida
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well make up your mind gin blossom. is she going to take it or not?
always remember that your credibility on political prognostication will always begin and end with:
"KERRY BY A LANDSLIDE!!!11!"
why don't you go play with a hillary clinton coloring book and see if you can keep it inside the lines?
Project veritas has another video out with a top dem donor saying blacks are f*cked in the head.
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that has been a closely held democrat belief my entire life. LBJ held the same belief, and was smart enough to capitalize on it and it worked.
1980?
Pennsylvania
Average 10/23 - 10/30 -- -- 47.2 41.2 4.5 1.8 Clinton +6.0
Remington Research (R)* 10/30 - 10/30 1249 LV 2.8 45 43 3 -- Clinton +2
Franklin & Marshall 10/26 - 10/30 652 LV 5.1 49 38 4 2 Clinton +11
Gravis 10/25 - 10/30 3217 RV 1.7 47 44 3 2 Clinton +3
CBS News/YouGov 10/26 - 10/28 1091 LV 3.7 48 40 5 2 Clinton +8
Emerson 10/25 - 10/26 550 LV 4.1 48 43 6 0 Clinton +5
NY Times/Siena 10/23 - 10/25 824 LV 3.4 46 39 6 3 Clinton +7
All Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Polling Data
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/pa/pennsylvania_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5964.html
Blogger rrb said...
Project veritas has another video out with a top dem donor saying blacks are f*cked in the head.
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that has been a closely held democrat belief my entire life. LBJ held the same belief, and was smart enough to capitalize on it and it worked.
Why is he allowed to post?
Because he's smarter than you
Bull shit, that is blatantly racist.
I would bet $1,000 if we took IQ tests with that racist mother fucker.
He is incapable of writing a grammatically correct sentence.
My tucked in the head wife, came to the United States, didn't speak English, and got her BSN in four years. That's a bachelor of science in nursing. She also worked babysitting and house cleaning, to pay her portion of the scholarship that got her here legally, and she also became an American citizen.
Fucked in the head?
Look in the mirror.
There are currently Two Confirmed FBI Criminal Investigations of Hillary Clinton.
1, The 650,000 auto archieved Emails of Hillary's, Huma Wiener.
2, The Clinton Family Foundation and the "pay for Play" that Hillary, Chealsea and Bill ran to get rich. What kind of foundation is set up to enrich those running it?
Top dem donor said that.
If you're going to tie david duke to trump for no reason, then the guy in the veritas video reflects Hillary's view.
What's good for the goose. Too bad that you don't like it.
My tucked in the head wife" HB
wtf is that ?
Roger -
When you only offer facts as they exist... rather than opinion as to why the "facts" are not as they exist... then you can lay a pretty reasonable claim to being "right".
If Hillary was polling ahead in states that have 322 ECV last week, but today she is only polling ahead in states that have 273... and there are polls in three states (Penn, Mich, Colorado) where very recent polls show Trump within 1 or 2...
Then it is a "fact" that his chances have increased... and that it's "absolutely" wrong to argue that her chances of getting to 270 has not changed at all.
Anonymous Myballs said...
Top dem donor said that."
Yep. HB too stupid for words.
AG Lynch is blocking the FBI.
The Criminal Actions of the Hillary/Obama crap has to be STOPPED!
"Assistant Attorney General Peter Kadzik appears to have given Clinton advisor John Podesta a ‘heads up’ that Hillary Clinton’s State Department emails would be discussed at a House Judiciary Committee meeting, according to a new batch of Wikileaks emails released Tuesday.
The email, from Kadzik to Podesta warns Podesta about an FBI superior testifying to the “HJC,” and of developments in a Freedom of Information Act request for Clinton’s emails."
Why is this important, because Obama Appointed AAG Peter Kadzik, to head up the Investigation of Hillary on the Clinton Family Crime Foundation.
Can we please get the trash out of Government.
PA average is 6%
FL a virtual tie, but the millions already cast, before emails, according to one source, said that 28% of the Republican voters, voted for Clinton.
Money in the bank.
No Florida, no Trump. Fact.
CHT, a question for you .
I have heard that many pollsters have in their polling methodology a part that includes that black voters will vote Hillary at the same levels as they did for Obama in 2012?
Yet, we now know that the black voters are moving more to Trump then they did for McCain and Romney, we also know that blacks are not coming out to vote for Hillary like they did for Obimbo in 2012.
Michigan is now TIED, wow, Reagan won that in 1980.
This is so much fun.
I have left the KKK endorsement of Trump off the blog. But our in house racist rodent is no different than they are.
Average 10/22 - 10/31 -- -- 47.0 40.0 5.3 2.3 Clinton +7.0
FOX 2 Detroit/Mitchell 10/31 - 10/31 737 LV 3.6 50 43 4 1 Clinton +7
Emerson 10/25 - 10/26 500 LV 4.3 50 43 3 3 Clinton +7
Detroit Free Press 10/22 - 10/25 600 LV 4.0 41 34 9 3 Clinton +7
All Michigan: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Polling Data
TIED?
Assistant Attorney General Peter Kadzik FBI, he is keeping Hillary Rotten Clinton informed from the inside of the FBI to HER.
Are we done with this kind of incest?
Susan Sarandon Endorses Jill Stein for President."
Susan good for you.
FL a virtual tie, but the millions already cast, before emails, according to one source, said that 28% of the Republican voters, voted for Clinton.
Early voting is by all accounts going well for Trump in Florida and no other poll (that I have seen) is suggesting that Clinton is ahead by large margins in early voting.
So Occam's Razor Roger?
Which theory has the least amount of assumptions:
1) That the vast majority of polls are right and that Trump is doing relatively well in early voting in Florida and has moved into a small lead.
2) That the vast majority of polls are incorrect, because they have not picked up on the fact that about 3 in 10 Republicans are voting for Clinton in Florida? A fact that "has" been picked up on by a pollster that 538 does not even ranked because there is no past data - but simply missed by all other pollsters.
Bill Weld said that Clinton is eminently qualified to be President. Donald Trump is a clear and dangerously unfit to be President.
Florida Surprise!
November 01, 2016, 11:05 pm
Florida poll: 28 percent of GOP early voters picked Clinton
By Evelyn Rupert
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Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, presidential debate
Greg Nash
More than a quarter of Republicans who have already voted in Florida cast their ballots for Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, according to a new poll.
A TargetSmart/William & Mary poll released Tuesday showed 28 percent of early Florida voters picked Clinton over GOP nominee Donald Trump. The poll, which will be released in full Wednesday, was shared early with MSNBC.
WASHINGTON
Democrat Hillary Clinton enjoys an eight-point lead over Donald Trump in Florida, a key presidential battleground, according to a new survey, and that’s due in no small part to significant crossover support from 28 percent of early voting Republicans.
The poll, by TargetSmart, a political data firm, and the College of William and Mary, was first reported Tuesday night on MSNBC’s The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell. It will be released Wednesday.
TargetSmart CEO Tom Bonier said on the show that its tracking survey of early voters in Florida, combined with its projections for likely voters, found that Clinton led Republican nominee Trump in the state, 48-40 percent. He said 28 percent of early voting Republicans cast ballots for her, while just six percent of Democrats who voted early sided with Trump.
Bonier said the results were “challenging the conventional wisdom of what we’ve seen so far.” Clinton, he said, “was performing incredibly strong with registered Republican voters.”
The survey was taken largely before the news last Friday that the FBI had renewed its inquiry into Clinton’s use of a private email server while she was secretary of state. Some polls have shown a slight tightening of the race since then, including in Florida.
By all accounts, its 29 electoral votes are crucial if he is to have a chance to reach the 270 necessary to win the White House. Most analysts say Clinton has more routes to that number than Trump and can without Florida in her column.
David Goldstein: 202-383-6105,
Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article111978267.html#storylink=cpy
Roger
Oct 29 Sienna College Trump +4
Pulse Opinion Research Clinton +1
Oct 29 Dixie Strategies Trump +3
Oct 30 Remington Trump +4
Nov 1 Opinion Research Clinton +2
Oct 31 Trafalgar Group Trump +4
But I am supposed to discount all of those polls taken in the past few days and rather defer to "William and Mary" pollsters who have never polled prior?
Look at their methodology.
Google buddy
Targetsmart's ceo's co founder is a guy who used to work for the tim kaine campaign . Its a bogus poll.
Look at their methodology.
Google buddy
Nonsense
Its a Clinton campaign poll you idiot.
"My tucked in the head wife, came to the United States, didn't speak English, and got her BSN in four years. That's a bachelor of science in nursing. She also worked babysitting and house cleaning, to pay her portion of the scholarship that got her here legally, and she also became an American citizen."
LOL
I don't look at the polls because it has so much bias in them.
Want to know the state of the race, Shrill Hillary is Back.
She could no longer contain the very thing that turns women off.
Hillary has two FBI investigations going on her right this moment, those are not both going away prior to the Election.
HB, has Obama Fired Comey as you said he would?
Wrong again.
Oh and about this economy. There is a saying in investing, never fight the FED, well for all of 2016 the Fed continue to tell those of us willing to listen that Madam Yellen believes this economy is too weak to raise rates, so she has not for all of 2016.
"My tucked in the head wife" LOL @ HB daily
His wife continues to morf depending on the issue at hand , on any given day she can be what HB fantasy takes him.
Anonymous Myballs said...
Its a Clinton campaign poll you idiot."
HB is just too stupid, his ugly sister Jane is smarter.
What in your opinion caused the Clinton Implosion?
Roger -
Why would I google their "methodology"? If there was something special about their methodology I am sure you could clue us in.
They are a pollster nobody has ever heard of that is a large outlier that is suggesting that Clinton will win 30% of Republican vote.
You go ahead and believe it... if it makes you feel any better.
I will go with the rest of the pollsters who I know and have proven track records and are all running fairly close to each other.
Logic is Refreshing , good use of it CHT.
from politicalwire.com (considered by many an excellent source of information):
State Poll Roundup: Wednesday
Florida: Clinton 48%, Trump 40%, Johnson 3% (TargetSmart)
Michigan: Clinton 50%, Trump 43%, Johnson 4% (Mitchell)
Virginia: Clinton 44%, Trump 39%, Johnson 5% (Winthrop)
Florida: Trump 49%, Clinton 45%, Johnson 2% (Trafalgar)
Ohio: Trump 49%, Clinton 44%, Johnson 2% (Trafalgar)
Michigan: Clinton 47%, Trump 28%, Johnson 11% (Michigan State)
Colorado: Clinton 44%, Trump 41%, Johnson 8% (Emerson)
Arizona: Trump 47%, Clinton 43%, Johnson 2% (Emerson)
Georgia: Trump 51%, Clinton 42%, Johnson 2% (Emerson)
Pennsylvania: Clinton 48%, Trump 44%, Johnson 3% (Monmouth)
Pennsylvania: Clinton 48%, Trump 44%, Johsnon 4% (CNN)
Florida: Clinton 49%, Trump 47%, Johnson 3% (CNN)
Nevada: Trump 49%, Clinton 43%, Johnson 5% (CNN)
Arizona: Trump 49%, Clinton 45%, Johnson 5% (CNN)
Wisconsin: Clinton 46%, Trump 40% (Marquette Law)
Florida: Clinton 46%, Trump 45%, Johnson 2% (Quinnipiac)
North Carolina: Clinton 47%, Trump 44%, Johnson 3% (Quinnipiac)
Ohio: Trump 46%, Clinton 41%, Johnson 5% (Quinnipiac)
Pennsylvania: Clinton 48%, Trump 43%, Johnson 3% (Quinnipiac)
rrb set a black church in Greenville, Mississippi, was set on fire on Tuesday night. Fire fighters arrived to find Hopewell Missionary Baptist Church “heavily engulfed in flames,” Mayor Errick Simmons said in an interview; the fire took nearly an hour to contain. No one was in the church at the time, and no one was injured. On the side of the church, beneath the blackened windows and roof, the words “Vote Trump” have been spray painted.
The S&P 500 is on track to close on Tuesday at a four-month low and in the red for the seventh day in a row. That would be the longest losing streak in nearly five years." Nov 1st, 2016 CNN
Really, what happened to HB's "Booming Economy" ?
HB, you know you can be sued for Defamation, for saying RRB burned it down.
Piliticalwire aka teagan goddard. We don't give a damn about him.
I bet i can go to breitbart and get different results.
LOL, Yellen folds, has to admit this economy sucks.
No rate hikes for all of 2016, IF the left ever gets a clue they will understand why she has not raised rates, here is a hint, the National Debt would skyrocket.
"wait for some further evidence" right, well after 8 years of nothing let me tell you Madam Dumbass, the evidence is clear , this economy sucks like Hillary on Huma.
rrb is a synonym. and cannot get a criminal or civil case into the courts.
2:56 Balls, if you think Taegan Goddard at politicalwire.com would falsify poll results attributed to specific pollsters, you really are loose in the brain.
Why in that case didn't he falsify polls having Trump ahead?
Real Clear Politics
Live Betting Odds
CHANCE OF ELECTION
Hillary Clinton 71.7%
Donald Trump 27.2%
Trump up in Texas by only two in two new Texas polls.
Ah now THAT would really put the kebosh on it.
Spam
Troll
Trump up in Texas by only two in two new Texas polls.
I think you meant "twelve" not "two" - Silver lists three new polls, two of them at plus twelve for Trump.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/texas/#plus
What Happened to Hillary and HER 12 point lead?
It was said by HB and Jane the race is over.
So simple minded, HB took his SS payments early, costing his family at a minimum $30,000 maybe much , much more.
New Hampton university poll has Trump +3 In VA
He's on offense
Plagiarized spam
VA?
RCP Average 10/23 - 10/30 -- -- 47.0 42.3 4.3 1.7 Clinton +4.7
Emerson 10/28 - 10/30 800 LV 3.4 49 45 3 1 Clinton +4
Remington Research (R)* 10/30 - 10/30 1106 LV 2.9 47 43 3 -- Clinton +4
Washington Post 10/27 - 10/30 1024 LV 3.5 48 42 6 2 Clinton +6
Winthrop 10/23 - 10/30 712 LV 3.6 44 39 5 2 Clinton +5
All Virginia: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Polling Data
Hopefully Florida is called only one time on Election Day. And that the final result there is known far quicker than in 2000.
Clinton is defending her "firewall" states now, not expanding the map or working to get more Democrats elected to Congress. She's putting up ads in New Mexico, of all places.
Well, they ARE actively and shamelessly shilling for Trump after all. The CEO has a very senior management role on Trump's campaign.
Falsify? Of course not. But reporting dubious polls that look good for Democrats while ignoring dubious polling that looks bad for Democrats? Sure.
Brexit. The polls said tossup but the bettors wanted to stay in the EU so much they convinced themselves Remain would win.
South Carolina?? You're drunk.
C'mon, C.H. Clinton could still lose Maine and win if she holds onto ME-01. Or she could lose Vermont, or Delaware, or D.C...
:P
Drunk?
1,622 days
4.44 years
38,947 Hours
Clinton Still Leads By 6 Points Nationally
A new Reuters/Ipsos poll finds Hillary Clinton leads Donald Trump by 6 percentage points among likely voters, 45% to 39%, the same advantage the Democratic presidential nominee held before an FBI announcement that reignited the controversy about her email practices.
For comparison, the HuffPost Pollster average shows Clinton ahead by six points, 48% to 42%.
South Carolina. You gotta be drunk to think Hillary will win there.
North Carolina. Typo
neither one of them have a clue. ol' rog has been reduced to posting "occupy democrats!!!11!" propaganda over on the legacy blog.
Incorrect.
The link shows how I got it, idiot, boohoo bigot
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/poll-florida-republicans-vote-for-hillary-clinton?post_id=10156306952060647_10157886784440647#_=_
That's the link from my post.
rrb is smarter than me???
😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
I disagree with that map with two differences. Because in a close election I'm keeping Clinton getting Florida and North Carolina. It's on the legacy page.
316-220
Either way, we will be swearing in the first woman President on January 20, 2017.
rrb is smarter than me???" HB
Answer, Yes.
Next.
American Combat Troops are Dying in Iraq. You know the War Obama successfully ended. What a joke being a progressive has become.
Huffinton Post Early this morning:
"1. The Clinton Foundation investigation is far more expansive than anybody has reported so far and has been going on for more than a year.
2. The laptops of Clinton aides Cherryl Mills and Heather Samuelson have not been destroyed, and agents are currently combing through them. The investigation has interviewed several people twice, and plans to interview some for a third time.
3. Agents have found emails believed to have originated on Hillary Clinton's secret server on Anthony Weiner's laptop. They say the emails are not duplicates and could potentially be classified in nature.
4. Sources within the FBI have told him that an indictment is "likely" in the case of pay-for-play at the Clinton Foundation, "barring some obstruction in some way" from the Justice Department.
5. FBI sources say with 99% accuracy that Hillary Clinton's server has been hacked by at least five foreign intelligence agencies, and that information had been taken from it."
Is Huffpo done covering up for the Clinton's?
Is Huffpo done covering up for the Clinton's?
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that seems like a philosophical question, like -
is a cat ever really done covering up a turd in the litter box?
As always , you are so funny.
Exactly, Hillary/Huma is a story the continues to grow and get bigger.
Huma has Classified documents on her laptop. That is after lying to the FBI, we would have already been criminally charged, she said she gave the FBI all of her electronic devices.
On the Wikileak information, we do not know how long they had that data before they released it.
Latest Polls have Trump ahead in New Hampshire, tied in Colorado and Pennsylvania.
Roger's fantasy is crashing.
2nd new poll out with Trump ahead in NC.
We are now learning that Clinton/Huma criminal connection goes very deep into the Clinton Crime Family Foundation.
The FBI has Two separate Criminal Cases open, Both on Hillary.
1, The Emails that exposed national security to unknown bad Hombres
2, The Bill/Hillary/Chelsea Crime Family Foundation and the pay for play that , that money bought. They sold the USA to enrich themselves.
Note, They got rich from the foundation.
And another thing, all you wet dreamers out there that want to see the IRS private Records of Trumps Tax Filings, go pound sand, you are not going to. I hope this puts an end to this non-sense.
Did you Know?
Madam Yellen yesterday again declined to raise Federal Bank Lending Rates, two reasons, first the economy is feared to be too weak to take the hit that higher rates would cause
And two, it would cause the US National Deficit to rise faster as debt serving would rise.
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Over 60 % of US Home Mortgages are owned by O'Hillary, it happened in 2012, when the two biggest crap buckets of Freddie/Fannie grab ever more of the private housing mortgages. The estimated 5 Trillion held by those two US Tax Payer backed institutions is growing, more defaults then ever and this is what some of you are voting for wanting more.
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O'HillaryCare has imploded taking with it the personal finances of 10's of Millions of Americans. The Damage to home budgets is only now being seen because this can no longer be hidden , as hard as the US Steno Press attempted to.
David Frum.
The conservative case for voting for Hillary Clinton.
The Atlantic
What we should all foresee is that a President Trump will certainly try to realize Washington’s nightmare. He must not be allowed to try.
That Donald Trump has approached so near the White House is a bitter reproach to everybody who had the power to stop him. I include myself in this reproach. Early on, I welcomed Trump’s up-ending of some outdated Republican Party dogmas—taking it for granted that of course such a ridiculous and obnoxious fraud could never win a major party’s nomination. But Trump did win. Now, he stands within a percentage point or two or at most four of the presidency of the United States.
Having failed to act promptly at the outset, it’s all the more important to act decisively before it’s too late. The lesson Trump has taught is not only that certain Republican dogmas have passed out of date, but that American democracy itself is much more vulnerable than anyone would have believed only 24 months ago. Incredibly, a country that—through wars and depression—so magnificently resisted the authoritarian temptations of the mid-20th century has half-yielded to a more farcical version of that same threat without any of the same excuse. The hungry and houseless Americans of the Great Depression sustained a constitutional republic. How shameful that the Americans of today—so vastly better off in so many ways, despite their undoubted problems—have done so much less well.
I have no illusions about Hillary Clinton. I expect policies that will seem to me at best counter-productive, at worst actively harmful. America needs more private-market competition in healthcare, not less; lighter regulation of enterprise, not heavier; reduced immigration, not expanded; lower taxes, not higher. On almostevery domestic issue, I stand on one side; she stands on the other. I do not imagine that she will meet me, or those who think like me, anywhere within a country mile of half-way.
But she is a patriot. She will uphold the sovereignty and independence of the United States. She will defend allies. She will execute the laws with reasonable impartiality. She may bend some rules for her own and her supporters’ advantage. She will not outright defy legality altogether. Above all, she can govern herself; the first indispensable qualification for governing others.
So I will vote for the candidate who rejects my preferences and offends my opinions. (In fact, I already have voted for her.) Previous generations accepted infinitely heavier sacrifices and more dangerous duties to defend democracy. I’ll miss the tax cut I’d get from united Republican government. But there will be other elections, other chances to vote for what I regard as more sensible policies. My party will recover to counter her agenda in Congress, moderate her nominations to the courts, and defeat her bid for re-election in 2020. I look forward to supporting Republican recovery and renewal.
Anyone who votes for someone who he disagrees with on policy, on politics and on principles, and yet believes that he isn't supporting that person with his vote is a fool.
Clinton cares about nothing beyond her self-aggrandizement. It is not possible for such a person to be a patriot, nor may such people govern effectively. A president like that is worth less than nothing, because a person governing in her own exclusive self-interest, having contempt for the rule of law, can have no redeeming qualities as far as the Nation is concerned.
Anyone who votes for someone who he disagrees with on policy, on politics and on principles
Frum has no principles except the principle of power.
He has no loyalties except the one to his class.
That's why he finds it as easy to vote for Hillary Clinton as he would any country club Republican he thinks can win.
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