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Monday, February 20, 2017

No... Criticizing the Press is not the same as shutting them down...

The press has a logical dilemma. Their entire basis of existence is rooted in the concept of freedom of speech. One where the Press is entitled to critique, criticize, and otherwise question political leaders under the protection of the first amendment. Of course, the concept of free speech is hardly limited to the Press. Anyone who is an American is entitled to the same freedoms.

That freedom extends to everyone, including the President of the United States.
That freedom includes critiquing, criticizing, and otherwise questioning the press itself.



You see, the reality is that the Press has the "freedom" to criticize the President under the first amendment. But based on that same first amendment "freedom" the President has the right as a citizen to criticize them right back. If they don't want to be criticized, then perhaps "they" (and not the President) have skin a little too thin to be in the business. 

Interestingly, it was fine when Obama refused to deal with Fox News. He left them out of press briefings, and for most of his tenure he refused to do any interviews or take questions from anyone working for the network. While he may have not been as boisterous in his public attacks on Fox, he certainly took more tangible action to "shut down" their access to his Administration. Nobody complaining today seemed to think that was a problem back then? 

We are certainly entering a new Presidential reality. Trump will simply not behave like past Presidents, and much of this Country is perfectly okay with that. So I would think that the Press better get used to the idea that if they hit Trump, he is going to hit back. Crying about the unfairness of it all and demanding that it's not Presidential to criticize the press is not going to win them any points with many Americans. 

Bottom line: the press has been losing credibility for some time. They should think about why, and possibly work to improve their relationship to the American public. Here is hint number one: blatantly working every angle they can to bring down a President they quite obviously don't like isn't going to help. 

83 comments:

rrb said...




It wasn’t a press conference – it was a kinky dungeon session where masochistic journalists eagerly sought out the delicious pain Master T was dealing. Hack after hack stepped up, tried to play “gotcha.” and ended up whimpering in the fetal position. The best part was CNN’s Jim Acosta, fresh from whining about how conservative outlets now get to ask questions too, basically handing Trump the cat-o-nine tails. Dude, next time keep from talking yourself into more public humiliation by biting down on the ball gag.

The media’s safe word is “Objectivity,” but none of them uttered it.

The wonderful thing about Trump – and the thing that sets the Fredocons and wusspublicans fussing – is that he gives exactly zero damns about the media’s inflated and ridiculous self-image. He doesn’t pay lip service to their lie that they are anything but what Instapundit calls “Democratic Party operatives with bylines.” Trump called them the “the enemy of the American People,” to which normals responded with “Yeah, sounds about right.”


https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2017/02/20/president-trump-has-been-far-too-nice-to-the-mainstream-media-n2287759



Roger Amick said...

He won't be able to regulate the media, But McCain was correct, when he said attacking the press is the first step of a dictatorship. Putin. err,.. Trump would be a dictator if he could .

rrb said...



a website created by the mentally ill to feed their delusions and escape reality:


http://www.hillarybeattrump.org/



but it's trump's mental health that should concern us.


uh huh.


Roger Amick said...

This appears to be a good choice. He's not a neo-con like Bolton. He has a reputation of thinking outside of the box. And I would bet that he's going to pick his own staff.
President Trump announced Monday that he is naming Army Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster as his national security adviser, replacing the ousted Michael Flynn.

Trump called McMaster "a man of tremendous talent and tremendous experience” as he introduced him to reporters at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida before leaving to return to Washington.

Retired Army Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg, who has been serving in an acting capacity as national security adviser, will be the National Security Council chief of staff, Trump said.

Both men were among four candidates whom aides said Trump had planned to interview this weekend as the president sought someone to replace Flynn.

Flynn was asked to resign last week amid allegations that he discussed U.S. sanctions with a Russian official before Trump took office and then misrepresented the content of that conversation to Vice President Pence and other administration officials.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/02/20/trump-taps-army-lt-gen-h-r-mcmaster-as-his-new-national-security-adviser/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_mcmaster-320pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.492d88388f9f

rrb said...

But McCain was correct, when he said attacking the press is the first step of a dictatorship
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mcpappy is working off of his last 3 or 4 marbles.

here's what he actually said. and the hindraker slaps him back to reality -

John McCain suggests on Meet the Press that President Trump is “suppressing” the free press, which is “the first thing that dictators do.”

“If you want to preserve — I’m very serious now — if you want to preserve democracy as we know it, you have to have a free and many times adversarial press,” McCain said in the interview. “And without it, I am afraid that we would lose so much of our individual liberties over time. That’s how dictators get started.”

The American press is “many times adversarial,” i.e., it is adversarial when we have a Republican in the White House.

“They get started by suppressing free press, in other words, a consolidation of power — when you look at history, the first thing that dictators do is shut down the press,” McCain said. “And I’m not saying that President Trump is trying to be a dictator. I’m just saying we need to learn the lessons of history.”

John, John, get a grip! Who is “suppressing” the press? Do you seriously not understand the difference between criticizing the press and suppressing it? The press is not above criticism. On the contrary, it deserves to be called out constantly for bias and inaccuracy. President Trump has taken a good step in that direction, but a great deal more press criticism is in order.

Also: not calling on CNN in a White House press conference does not constitute “suppressing” CNN.

The Washington crack-up continues apace.


indeed.

the press has been in a delightful slumber in 0linsky's lap for 8 long years. they were snuggled and comfy, awaking only occasionally to lob a bomb of an untrue story at a republican...mostly trump.

so trump, being the rotten prick that he can be towards someone who wronged him, insulted the media at every turn. and then, to add insult to injury, he actually USED them, for FREE, to get elected.

brilliant.

and on election night the media dropped their veil of half-assed objectivity to openly cry and weep at the prospect of trump winning. the last shreds of credibility were pissed away that night. for good.

trump is suppressing no one in the press. he's simply chosen to ignore the liars. the media is reaping what they've sown. finally. it's only taken 50 years.



Commonsense said...

Trump has never used the DOJ to try to intimidate reporters like Obama did.

McCain has lost his marbles. And the media conveniently overlooks Obama's authoritarianism.

KD, Pass the hat for HB, he needs money, again said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
He won't be able to regulate the media, But McCain was correct, when he said attacking the press is the first step of a dictatorship. Putin. err,.. Trump would be a dictator if he could .

February 20, 2017 at 2:41 PM"

wow, just wow, I understand the stress your under with the news that you beloved Carpenter UNION Fund is in real financial trouble, too many boomer taking too much out to fast and add with that the union money changers based pay outs on a 8 percent per year ROI.


KD said...

The media has it's voice, no one can or is trying to take that away, what would be nice if they did more news and less, well, fake news.

I woke up this morning knowing Hillary will never be President, that alone made my day , the rest of the news like that of the drawing down of HB's retirement fund is the gravy.

opie said...

Commonsense said...
Trump has never used the DOJ to try to intimidate reporter

Naw....he just declares them the enemy of the people. Much more better densa boy. Yeah, McCain has also dived into the nut house by avering the press is a necessary evil, just like the constitution says. LOLOLOL

Roger Amick said...

How about this, he looks like a great choice, The "anti-American" New York Times writs a fairly positive portrait.

General McMaster is seen as one of the Army’s leading intellectuals, first making a name for himself with a searing critique of the Joint Chiefs of Staff for their performance during the Vietnam War and later criticizing the way President George W. Bush’s administration went to war in Iraq.

As a commander, he was credited with demonstrating how a different counterterrorism strategy could defeat insurgents in Iraq, providing the basis for the change in approach that Gen. David H. Petraeus adopted to shift momentum in a war that the United States was on the verge of losing.

General McMaster’s challenge now will be to take over a rattled and demoralized National Security Council apparatus that bristled at Mr. Flynn’s leadership and remains uncertain about its place in the White House given the foreign policy interests of Stephen K. Bannon, the former Breitbart News chairman who is the president’s chief strategist.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/20/us/politics/mcmaster-national-security-adviser-trump.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

Fore the firs time in a week, Trump actually looked like a President instead of a reality show host.

opie said...

Trump would be a dictator if he could .

That is exactly how he operated his empire......just do it or you are fired.......I imagine he was a real prick to work for that demanded 100% loyalty and follow the order or else.

rrb said...




the special snowflakes can be so cute sometimes...


Building your wall

Had enough?

Tired of your family arguing over him? Are you horrified each time you check your newsfeed? Tired of the memes? Tired of being angry? Are you even tired of the jokes?

Let's turn Trump into an internet refugee, and see how he likes it. Take a break - just one day, to digitally protest Trump, and remember what life was like (and will one-day be like) without Trump as President.

Start by downloading the filter below, which will block all Trump-related media and hit him where it'll hurt most. Unfollow his presidential Twitter. Trump wants to make people into outcasts. We'll make him into one too.

Think of it as a mental break.

https://www.awallagainsttrump.com/


fox blocker, meet trump blocker. so your own special version of reality can proceed without the nastiness of trump. i mean, he's only your president. there, there precious. download it. quickly. it might even save you a trip to your therapist.

Roger Amick said...

Unlike the barely literate rrb, i watched the interview and made up my own mind and used my own words, not some nut job right wing blog.

rrb said...

Commonsense said...
Trump has never used the DOJ to try to intimidate reporters like Obama did.
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LOL.

they so cherished their dear leader they turned a blind eye to his ACTUAL attacks on the press.

rrb said...



oh, so suddenly you're a huge mcpappy fan, eh rog?

LOL.

i can see why. the man is borderline senile, and is seeing things that just aren't there.

like landslides. and booms. and devastation. and president cankles.



KD, HB calls 2018 Senate Landslide for Dems said...

Opie, tell us about how when you ran a company, you would allow your employees to order things you did not want nor need and eat the cost and allowed it to happen repeatedly without saying a word.

Commonsense said...

Opie has lost his ficking mind again. He's barely coherent.

rrb said...



the mini strokes are coming at him a mile a minute.



opie said...

What part of trump ran his company like a tyrant did you have trouble understanding, densa boy.

Anonymous KD, HB calls 2018 Senate Landslide for Dems said...
Okie, tell us about how when you ran a company,

KD, why don't you tell us how you satisfy your farm animals. LOL

KD, Real News Obama knew said...

Click Obama and the Liberal blinkers wearers, Slate Mag and the Obama Spying on Reporters

opie said...

rrb said...
the mini strokes are coming at him a mile a minute.

Impressive retort rat. Go service loretta and maybe you both will shut up.

opie said...

g and the Obama Spying on Reporters

Thanx to busch and the patriot act.......idiot.

Roger Amick said...

CHackery is a 400 word rationalization of a remark from the President of the United States of America who called the "Press is an enemy of the United States.

The founding fathers made the freedom of speech and the press in the first amendment of the Constitution of the United States.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

He's crazy enough to say that the amendment does not apply to the President's power to protect the people from their enemy's the the press.

C.H. Truth said...

Press is an enemy of the United States.

Which is a stated opinion... as you pointed out, opinions and freedom of speech are protected by the first amendment.

But I guess you must be a selective genius... as you clearly seem incapable of clarifying the difference between a "criticism" and "shutting something down". That being said, it's hyperbole, "designed" by the media to fool people. So I can cut you some slack.

After all, liberal rhetoric may only fool some of the people some of the time, but it generally fools Roger all of the time.

Commonsense said...

but it generally fools Roger all of the time.

I've have never in my life seen such a fool who was so proud to be a fool at that.

Commonsense said...

What part of trump ran his company like a tyrant did you have trouble understanding, densa boy.

The part where you think I would actually care what you said.

KD, said...

Funny how many millionaires/wealth people Trump made that are still with the company he built and now his kids run.

Tell US, how many millionaires/wealthy peope did you make in your company?

KD, CA damn holding thanks Mr. President said...

After all, liberal rhetoric may only fool some of the people some of the time, but it generally fools Roger all of the time."

Yep


Roger is still looking for Millions the VOTERS by name that changed his/her vote because the Russians told him/her to Vote Trump.


We know no one here changed their vote because of the released true Emails of the Clinton Camp.

Not One.

What makes us so special that our vote was not changed?

KD said...

I would like to see Obama's Face on a $10 Trillion Dollar bill, fitting for his Legacy.

KD, The Power of "W" said...

Opium, you just said that Obama was so frail of mind and so void of strength that the reason he ordered the spying on the US PRESS was because the Devil, err, "W" made him do it.


OMG, LOL @ U daily,thanks have a blessed evening.

opie said...

The part where you think I would actually care what you said.

Once an idiot, always a republicon' LOLOL

opie said...

err, "W" made him do it.

Sure goat breath....you go ahead and believe whatever you want.....still can't fix stupid. LOL

KD, President Hillary day, omg Fuck that shit said...

opium it is you chasing your own tail, I did not force you to do it, so don't attempt to blame me.

I just read your post and pick them a part destroying them and you with them.

Have the best day you can.

KD, said...

US unions joining President Trump and supporting his jobs building around the USA.

It is great to see, over the next 8 years unions will grow in number of members thanks to the jobs created by the support and work of Presidente Trump.

opie said...

I did not force you to do it

Force what....others to read you idiotic comments??? I usually ignore them, much quicker to see if there is anything worthwhile....Yours never qualify. LOL "Pick them "a"part, is most amusing on so many levels

KD, Low Bar set by Obama said...

2009
134053 thousand employed

2016

145327(P) Thousand employed

BLS,,

So Obama added 20 million jobs according to HB.

However, real math shows adding about 9 million in 8 years, not very good.

opie said...

And busch was shedding 750k jobs a month when he left office and you didn't hear him sounding like a grade school bully that he was left a mess, Real math has Obama adding almost 14 million jobs. Idiot

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/01/08/guess-what-barack-obama-has-been-a-great-president-for-job-creation/?utm_term=.3ce92e922c32

Roger Amick said...

After all, conservative rhetoric may only fool some of the people some of the time, but it generally fools CHT all of the time.

You went ape over comments like you will be able to keep your doctor.

But when someone who has the sacred (R) after his name, it is worth 400 words of dancing in circles and assaulting someone who is obviously more intelligent.

And there is something you haven't thought of. If President Trump, who has a policy that would be popular across the political spectrum. But he is incapable of stepping back from his assaults on the press, and keep lying about events that didn't happen. And saying attention to the intelligence briefings instead of using Fox news as a source of inspiration, for example, the "Sweden affair"

He could get enough bipartisan support for the infrastructure and other things. The Democrats have been willing to work with the Republicans in the past. Example, Chip O'Neal and Ronald Reagan. And in the first two years of George W Bush, part B on Medicare.


But he's unwilling or unable to stop trying to satisfy his base, and dividends the country, even more than it is now. But you defend him on everything he says or does.

That escapes you when your arrogance blinds you to a true and objective Coldheartedtruth.

C.H. Truth said...

Several things Roger...

First, I am not fooled by anything. I see right through Trump's game. He tosses around his hyperbole to distract people and get them focused on what he wants them focused on. Whether or not what he says is "true" is irrelevant to the strategy. Remember when you were talking about whatever it was last week that was the biggest story since Watergate?

Well guess what... now we are all talking about how much media bias there actually is and whether or not Sweden's crime levels are up because they took in a bunch of refugees. Oh, and even "you" like McMaster who is going to replace that one guy nobody remembers now.

He's got the left chasing cars around, long before they catch up to one, they start chasing a different one in a new direction. It's almost comical to watch.

I actually defend none of what he states, other than the things that are actually true... because it's irrelevant to the bigger issue. He understands that facts don't matter.

Secondly, everything you stated about appeasing the base could be stated in regards to Obama's first year or so in office. As Obama stated. He won. His policies. He met with congress, to lecture them. Obamacare with no GOP support. Etc, etc...

Trump is simply keeping his campaign promises, which oddly did not include any liberal policies that you and the rest of the liberals might like. Go figure.

Roger Amick said...

Which is a stated opinion... as you pointed out, opinions and freedom of speech are protected by the first amendment. When that is said by the President of the united states, it takes on far more meaning than you and I say. People who believe this, like you, ignore the impact a comment like that has in the country. Ir's getting more apparent that you are thinking the New York Times and the Washington post, are no different than the National Inquirer.

But I guess you must be a selective genius... as you clearly seem incapable of clarifying the difference between a "criticism" and "shutting something down". That being said, it's hyperbole, "designed" by the media to fool people. So I can cut you some slack. You have been highly selective on what is said and who said it. The Magic (R) gets your song and dance around the impact of the remarks by out President.

Roger Amick said...

what he says is "true" is irrelevant

Bullshit. Despite your long winded comments. the magic (R)

"I won" is important, but lying about a landslide, oh well

If you were consistent, I wouldn't have a problem, but you are very selective.

KD, ObamaNomics, what a hot mess, 10 Trillion Dollar Anchor said...

Opium again , why are you arguing with BLS.

KD said...


Election 2016: Your money, your vote

The Obama economy has now created 15 million jobs

by Heather Long @byHeatherLong
October 7, 2016: 9:42 AM ET "

How nice, CNN and Opium are at odds .

Home Ownership is at historic lows, that will change over the next 8 years of progrowth Trump.

KD, Home Depot top new story of the Day said...

compare presidencies, you have to decide where to start measuring" opium

Not that is the poster child definition of cherry picking when to use all the real data just will not do.

Commonsense said...

Ir's getting more apparent that you are thinking the New York Times and the Washington post, are no different than the National Inquirer.

That's closer to the truth than you would think.

Only the National Enquirer has a far greater circulation.

Roger Amick said...


Only the National Enquirer has a far greater circulation.

The people who voted for Trump are subscribers.

Commonsense said...

As a matter of fact they are; and are generally far more decent than the people who look down on them.

rrb said...

But I guess you must be a selective genius... as you clearly seem incapable of clarifying the difference between a "criticism" and "shutting something down".
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better selective genius than no intellect at all.

look dummy, trump is not shutting down the press. if he were, there would be no 70 minute press conference just the other day, and there would be no daily press briefing. there would be no photographers allowed in the oval to capture the visit from a foreign head of state.

nice job posting the 1st amendment by the way. that's the one harry reid drew a bead on not too long ago. but you'll never admit that.

and if you're taking your selective outrage pointers from mcpappy, you're just as fucking senile as he is.

grow up. and have a little respect for the host. he's nice enough to keep up your AA/gaslight blog for no good reason at all. show some gratitude and respect.

Roger Amick said...

Section 4.

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

To put this into plain English, the Vice-president and two thirds of the cabinet determine that the President "is unable to discharge the powers and the duties of his office" the Vice-president shall be the acting President.

Trump's behavior has been troubling to the Republicans across the country.

Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the drunkard.

Commonsense said...

He's trying to rationalize the coup d'etat he wants because he won't accept the results of the election.

He's in serious need of help.

rrb said...



The Justice Department named Fox News's chief Washington correspondent James Rosen "at the very least, either as an aider, abettor and/or co-conspirator" in a 2010 espionage case against State Department security adviser Stephen Jin-Woo Kim. The accusation appears in a court affidavit first reported by the Washington Post.

Kim is charged with handing over a classified government report in June 2009 that said North Korea would probably test a nuclear weapon in response to a UN resolution condemning previous tests. Rosen reported the analysis on 11 June under the headline 'North Korea Intends to Match UN Resolution With New Nuclear Test'.

The FBI sought and obtained a warrant to seize all of Rosen's correspondence with Kim, and an additional two days' worth of Rosen's personal email, the Post reported. The bureau also obtained Rosen's phone records and used security badge records to track his movements to and from the State Department.

Fox News issued a sharply worded statement on Monday calling the episode "downright chilling".

"We are outraged to learn today that James Rosen was named a criminal co-conspirator for simply doing his job as a reporter," Fox News executive vice-president of news editorial Michael Clemente said in the statement. "In fact, it is downright chilling. We will unequivocally defend his right to operate as a member of what up until now has always been a free press."

Rosen has not been charged with a crime in the case. Kim was indicted in August 2010 on charges of violating the Espionage Act of 1917, one of a batch of six cases in which the Obama administration began to use the first world war-era spying law to prosecute suspected government whistleblowers.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/20/fox-news-reporter-targeted-us-government



let us know when trump starts fucking with the fake news readers on THIS level, genius.

rrb said...

Commonsense said...
He's trying to rationalize the coup d'etat he wants because he won't accept the results of the election.
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i'm old enough to remember when a spastic old bitch said that not accepting the results of the election was a threat to democracy.

Roger Amick said...

“When the media lies to people, I will never ever let them get away with it. I will do whatever I can…They have their own agenda, and their agenda is not your agenda.”

I will never let them get away with it.

Coming from the President of the United States is very troublesome.

rrb said...

Coming from the President of the United States is very troublesome.
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only to a mentally ill pearl clutching spastic drama queen who would choose to assign legal/constitutional powers to the media that they simply do not possess.

the media IS NOT above reproach, IS NOT above criticism, and IS NOT above ridicule,

they are, as glenn reynolds calls them - "democrats with bylines."

that makes them assclowns. and they are finally being treated as such.

Loretta Russo said...

LOL.

Roger should change his profile pic...

Roger Amick said...

Remember when our esteemed host posted the video from Bill Maher? Oops


Publisher Simon & Schuster announced Monday it cancelled Breitbart editor Milo Yiannopoulos’s book deal, the latest development in the growing backlash over resurfaced videos of the far-right provocateur criticizing age-of-consent laws.

A statement from the publishing house offered little explanation: “After careful consideration, Simon & Schuster and its Threshold Editions imprint have cancelled publication of ‘Dangerous’ by Milo Yiannopoulos.”

[CPAC rescinds Yiannopoulos invitation amid social media uproar]

The cover of the book by Milo Yiannopoulos “Dangerous” ( Simon and Schuster)
Hours earlier, organizers of the Conservative Political Action Conference rescinded their invitation for Yiannopoulos to participate in this week’s conference. “Due to the revelation of an offensive video in the past 24 hours condoning pedophilia, the American Conservative Union has decided to rescind the invitation,” ACU chairman Matt Schlapp said in a statement

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2017/02/20/milo-yiannopoulos-loses-his-book-deal-with-simon-schuster-amid-growing-outcry/?utm_term=.18b3faa43331

caliphate4vr said...

Wow Roger, you're only about 24 hours late. Fuck I have a job and knew CPAC had rescinded the invite and the publisher was dumping his book,mid morning yesterday.

You're like the town crier announcing shit long after it has happened.

And remember Milo has repeatedly stated he's not a conservative.

opie said...

Looks to me densa boys idol is a nambla member with views like that. Wonder if any righty here will have the moral high ground to rebuke the guy and apologize to all for defending him when he was banned from twitter.....densa boy.

opie said...

Fuck I have a job and knew

And a rather menial one at that.

rrb said...

You're like the town crier announcing shit long after it has happened.
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probably because he's too busy engaged in babbling about shit that will never happen:

like using the 25th amendment to overthrow trump.

LOL.

if he clutches those pearls any tighter he might just asphyxiate himself.

KD said...

Maybe we count President Trump Jobs like you count Obama's , exclude the down months and only count the up months.

Oh, and do we get to use the "created and saved" fuzzy math thingy, or was that only for the ONE?

Roger Amick said...

Until very recently, the biggest foreign intervention in an American election happened in 1940, when the United States was riven over whether to enter World War II. Both sides in the war got involved.
Nazi officials funneled money to delegates at the Democratic convention to get them to vote against Franklin Roosevelt’s nomination and also backed efforts to get Republicans to adopt an antiwar platform. British agents, as Politico has detailed, covertly paid for biased polls showing that Americans favored intervention and also worked to defeat a prominent isolationist member of Congress.
It’s possible that Britain’s efforts helped swing the Republican nomination to Wendell Willkie, an underdog who was far less isolationist than his rivals.
But that’s nothing compared with the 2016 meddling by Vladimir Putin’s Russia. In an election decided by fewer than 100,000 votes, Russia’s campaign to undermine Hillary Clinton looks like one of several factors significant enough to have affected the outcome.
In contrast with 1940, however, there is a big unanswered question about the ties between Putin and President Trump’s circle: Why do they exist in the first place? The motives of all parties in 1940 were clear, even if the details of the intervention took decades to emerge.
The reasons that Trump has seemed so eager to cozy up to Putin, by contrast, remain murky. There are potential business ties, political ties and ideological ties between the two. There is even Trump’s own explanation, which revolves around Syria (and the Islamic State).
In my column today, I offer a guide for everyone confused by the story — and urge the Senate and F.B.I., now investigating the matter, to avoid the deference they’ve shown Trump so far.
For anyone who wants to follow the Russia story closely, I encourage you to read Julia Ioffe in The Atlantic and Michael Crowley and Susan Glasser in Politico, as well as The Times’s continuing coverage.
The full Opinion report from The Times follows, including Eric Uhlfelder on the low-income housing policy that cities should adopt in the age of Trump.
David Leonhardt
Op-Ed Columnist

KD said...

As a matter of fact they are; and are generally far more decent than the people who look down on them." CS

that is the liberal today and so went the Democrat party of today, they are openly angry at the Voters.

I want them to say that way .

Roger Amick said...

Has this caused your suffering???
1. Gays and Lesbians can now marry and enjoy the benefits they had been deprived of. Has this caused your suffering?
2. When Obama took office, the Dow was 6,626. Now it is 19,875. Has this caused your suffering?
3. We had 82 straight months of private sector job growth - the longest streak in the history of the United States.
Has this caused your suffering?
4. Especially considering where he the economy was when he took over, an amazing 11.3 million new jobs were created under President Obama (far more than President Bush). Has this caused your suffering?
5. Obama has taken Unemployment from 10% down to 4.7%.
Has this caused your suffering?
6. Homelessness among US Veterans has dropped by half.
Has this caused your suffering?
7. Obama shut down the US secret overseas prisons.
Has this caused your suffering?
8. President Obama has created a policy for the families of fallen soldiers to have their travel paid for to be there when remains are flown home. Has this caused your suffering?
9. We landed a rover on Mars. Has this caused your suffering?
10. He passed the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act. Has this caused your suffering?
11. Uninsured adults has decreased to below 10%: 90% of adults are insured - an increase of 20 Million Adults.
Has this caused your suffering?
12. People are now covered for pre-existing conditions.
Has this caused your suffering?
13. Insurance Premiums increased an average of $4,677 from 2002-2008, an increase of 58% under Bush. The growth of these
insurance premiums has gone up $4,145 – a slower rate of increase. Has this caused your suffering?
14. Obama added Billions of dollars to mental health care for our Veterans. Has this caused your suffering?
15. Consumer confidence has gone from 37.7 to 98.1 during Obama’s tenure. Has this caused your suffering?
16. He passed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. Has this caused your suffering?
17. His bi-annual Nuclear Summit convinced 16 countries to give up and destroy all their loose nuclear material so it could not be stolen. Has this caused your suffering?

Roger Amick said...

18. He saved the US Auto industry. American cars sold at the beginning of his term were 10.4M and upon his exit 17.5M.
Has this caused your suffering?
19. The deficit as a percentage of the GDP has gone from 9.8% to 3.2%. Has this caused your suffering?
20. The deficit itself was cut by $800 Billion Dollars.
Has this caused your suffering?
21. Obama preserved the middle class tax cuts.
Has this caused your suffering?
22. Obama banned solitary confinement for juveniles in federal prisons. Has this caused your suffering?
23. He signed Credit Card reform so that rates could not be raised without you being notified. Has this caused your suffering?
24. He outlawed Government contractors from discriminating against LGBT persons. Has this caused your suffering?
25. He doubled Pell Grants. Has this caused your suffering?
26. Abortion is down. Has this caused your suffering?
27. Violent crime is down. Has this caused your suffering?
28. He overturned the scientific ban on stem cell research.
Has this caused your suffering?
29. He protected Net Neutrality. Has this caused your suffering?
30. Obamacare has extended the life of the Medicare insurance trust fund (will be solvent until 2030).
Has this caused your suffering?
31. President Obama repealed 'Don't Ask Don't Tell.'
Has this caused your suffering?
32. He banned torture. Has this caused your suffering?
33. He negotiated with Syria to give up its chemical weapons and they were destroyed. Has this caused your suffering?
34. Solar and Wind Power are at an all time high.
Has this caused your suffering?

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KD said...

This is so funny, The Russians are coming the Russians are coming.


Unable and unwilling to accept the fact that Hillary lost is funny to watch.

What is the Protest of the Day?

What happened to OccupyWallstreet and BlackLivesMatter?

rrb said...

But that’s nothing compared with the 2016 meddling by Vladimir Putin’s Russia. In an election decided by fewer than 100,000 votes, Russia’s campaign to undermine Hillary Clinton looks like one of several factors significant enough to have affected the outcome.
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well shit rog,

for all the supposed meddling russia did on trump's behalf, you'd think they'd be clever enough to get him a majority of the popular vote.

it would appear that they're just not that good at meddling.

rrb said...



give the snopes clowns the credit, alky:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/441333919315986/permalink/1241883745927662/

rrb said...

What happened to OccupyWallstreet and BlackLivesMatter?
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black lies matter murdered another police officer yesterday.


Commonsense said...

Looks to me densa boys idol is a nambla member with views like that.

Perfect example of fake news that Trump is complaining about. I've never commented about Milo one way or the other. But that doesn't stop Opie from slandering me.

For the record I did enjoy the way Milo provoked liberals but found his anti-semetic and newly revealed comments about pediophila offensive.

But not nearly as offensive as the leftist violence used to suppress his free speech rights.

I do find it interesting however, that the people who now condemn Milo have been given Roman Polanski a free pass for years.

Starting with Meryl Streep.

Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the drunkard

opie said...


Spam by the drunkard

More wasted bandwidth by our loretta troll.....Go away already!!!!

I've never commented about Milo one way or the other.

Your memory sucks, densa boy. You were very explicit in asking how would you feel about a gay R being banned by twitter. Thanx for playing though and i expect you to continue lying how you never said anything. LOL

C.H. Truth said...

I wonder how long it will take for another publisher to pick up Milo's book?

opie said...

C.H. Truth said...
I wonder how long it will take for another publisher to pick up Milo's book?

When God says pedophilia is not a sin or hell freezes over.....which ever comes first. LOL

Commonsense said...
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Commonsense said...

Once again Opie nobody knows what the hell you're talking about. Nor does anyone care.

opie said...

U.S.
Milo Yiannopoulos Could Be Fired by Breitbart Over Pedophilia Comments (Report)
Stay Hod,The Wrap 17 hours ago
Took long enough.....should have fired him when he was trolling leslie jones.....JMHO
Milo Yiannopoulos could stand to lose his job as editor at Breitbart News over newly unearthed comments he once made about pedophilia, the FOX Business Network reported.

According to the financial network “there is a fierce internal debate at Breitbart over whether he should remain with the website over his latest comments,” with some at the right-wing site telling Fox News that Yiannopoulos could be dismissed as early as end of the day Monday.

Yiannopoulos was disinvited from Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) on Monday after a video of him talking about pedophilia resurfaced over the weekend. In it, Yiannopoulos can be heard saying that some relationships between adults and 13-

opie said...

Once again, densa boy does exactly as predicted when caught in a lie. Nothing new there. If you are so intent not caring......don't post anything which confirms what I said. LOLOLO

opie said...

Tucker Carson.... now is an advisor of trump foreign policy and the source of fake news for the donnie

PALM BEACH, Fla. — On Friday night, Fox News aired an alarming six-minute segment in which the host, Tucker Carlson, interviewed a documentary filmmaker about a crisis of violence in Sweden ignited by the recent wave of Muslim migration.

“The government has gone out of its way to try to cover up some of these problems,” declared Ami Horowitz, the filmmaker.

“That is grotesque,” Mr. Carlson responded.

One of his viewers agreed, and in that moment was born a diplomatic incident that illustrates the unusual approach that President Trump takes to foreign policy, as well as the influence that television can have on his thinking. After watching the program, Mr. Trump threw a line into a speech the next day suggesting that a tea


Commonsense said...

The Indy Car mechanic has dropped a valve in his cylinder head.

opie said...

Commonsense said...
The Indy Car mechanic has dropped a valve in his cylinder head.

You need a quart of brains, densa boy.....the dip stick is dry......

Roger Amick said...

February 21, 2017 at 7:31 AM Delete
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18. He saved the US Auto industry. American cars sold at the beginning of his term were 10.4M and upon his exit 17.5M.
Has this caused your suffering?
19. The deficit as a percentage of the GDP has gone from 9.8% to 3.2%. Has this caused your suffering?
20. The deficit itself was cut by $800 Billion Dollars.
Has this caused your suffering?
21. Obama preserved the middle class tax cuts.
Has this caused your suffering?
22. Obama banned solitary confinement for juveniles in federal prisons. Has this caused your suffering?
23. He signed Credit Card reform so that rates could not be raised without you being notified. Has this caused your suffering?
24. He outlawed Government contractors from discriminating against LGBT persons. Has this caused your suffering?
25. He doubled Pell Grants. Has this caused your suffering?
26. Abortion is down. Has this caused your suffering?
27. Violent crime is down. Has this caused your suffering?
28. He overturned the scientific ban on stem cell research.
Has this caused your suffering?
29. He protected Net Neutrality. Has this caused your suffering?
30. Obamacare has extended the life of the Medicare insurance trust fund (will be solvent until 2030).
Has this caused your suffering?
31. President Obama repealed 'Don't Ask Don't Tell.'
Has this caused your suffering?
32. He banned torture. Has this caused your suffering?
33. He negotiated with Syria to give up its chemical weapons and they were destroyed. Has this caused your suffering?
34. Solar and Wind Power are at an all time high.
Has this caused your suffering?