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Friday, March 24, 2017

If Lindsey Graham is open to the nuclear option...

Then I am betting McConnell has the votes to get this done. Schumer and the Democrats are playing a game of chicken that they will not only lose "short term" but likely lose "long term" as well. 


Filibustering Gorsuch as a replacement of Scalia means they will not be able to filibuster the next potential candidate that President Trump nominates to the court. As stated before, the Democrats could make much a much more valid political point by saving this option for when it really matters. Unfortunately for the Democrats, they have been engaged in short term strategic thinking that allows them to win some short term battles, while continuing to lose the long term war. It's the main reason why they are at century long political lows.

68 comments:

Roger Amick said...

If your "Trump is right" President is at record lows since we started polling on the popularity, the public will blame "President Trump is right", not the Democrat party.

The same applies to the D.O.A. TrumpCare that is going down the drain.

March 23, 2017 - U.S. Voters Oppose GOP Health Plan 3-1, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Big Opposition To Cuts To Medicaid, Planned Parenthood Quinnipiac University Polling

American voters disapprove 56 - 17 percent, with 26 percent undecided, of the Republican health care plan to replace Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today. Support among Republicans is a lackluster 41 - 24 percent.

If their U.S. Senator or member of Congress votes to replace Obamacare with the Republican health care plan, 46 percent of voters say they will be less likely to vote for that person, while 19 percent say they will be more likely and 29 percent say this vote won't matter, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University Poll finds.

Disapproval of the Republican plan is 56 - 22 percent among men, 56 - 13 percent among women, 54 - 20 percent among white voters, 64 - 10 percent among non-white voters, 80 - 3 percent among Democrats, 58 - 14 percent among independent voters and by margins of 2-1 or more in every age group.

One out of every seven Americans, 14 percent, think they will lose their health insurance under the Republican plan. That 14 percent includes 27 percent of voters in families with household income below $30,000, 18 percent of working class families and 14 percent of middle class families.

Fewer Americans would be covered under the GOP plan than are covered under Obamacare, 61 percent of voters find, while 8 percent say more would be covered and 18 percent say the number would be about the same.

"Replacing Obamacare will come with a price for elected representatives who vote to scrap it, say many Americans, who clearly feel their health is in peril under the Republican alternative," said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.

It is "very important" that health insurance be affordable for all Americans, 85 percent of voters say. Another 13 percent say it is "somewhat important."

When it is explained that federal funding for Planned Parenthood is used only for non- abortion health issues, American voters oppose cutting federal funding to Planned Parenthood 80 - 14 percent, including 60 - 32 percent among Republicans. In a simple question, without the explanation, voters oppose cutting Planned Parenthood funding 61 - 33 percent.

Voters also oppose 74 - 22 percent, including 54 - 39 percent among Republicans, cutting federal funding for Medicaid.

Only 12 percent of American voters say the Republican health care plan would have a positive impact on their health care, as 30 percent say it will have a negative impact and 50 percent say it will have no impact.

President Donald Trump and Republicans in Congress should repeal all of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), 20 percent of voters say. Another 50 percent say repeal parts of the ACA and 27 percent say don't repeal any of the ACA.

Voters disapprove 61 - 29 percent of the way President Trump is handling health care.


https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2443

"Trump is right" and the Republican party will bear the blame.

Roger Amick said...

At a personal level, I would not oppose Gorsuch. His fearless and ripped the President.

C.H. Truth said...

Oh Roger...

I recall you posting polls showing Hillary Clinton with double digit leads and how the Democrats were going to sweep both houses of congress.

This is all meaningless at this point. Nobody even knows what the new health care plan even looks like.

But hey, if it makes you feel better... you know, like therapy. Then cite all the polls you like and pretend it changes who is President, who runs congress, and who is about to be confirmed as the next USSC Justice.

Myballs said...

Addressing the actual point of the thread, Graham pretty closely mirrors the indy voters. And they're getting fed up with the burn everything to the ground approach of Schumer and the democrats. Same for the main stream media.

And curious that our simpleton friend here doesn't give us all the Rasmussen poll details.

KD, Winning, I ain't in no way Tired said...

But on a gutless nancy polosi skirt wearing level you are like Cuckold Schumer, a scum bag political hack.


Like I said God I hope your team goes all in with your opposing Gorsuch, that the Republicans do go to the Ried Rule and 51 votes to confirm, then when President Trump gets another pick and it is almost assured it will be one of the near death Democrat Party Member that Current Squat on the Court today, he will get another Conservative on the bench long term WIN/WIN.

KD, US New H said...

Roger Krugman, why do you feel the need to post the exact same span on this Blog that you do on the kiddy blog, are you winning the views war you said you would win against CHT and this the Adult Side?


It took Obama/Polosi/Ried/Biden/Schumer until March 23, 2010, over a full year to get the Unaffordable Care Act signed.


$$$$$$ Two Huge Trump Effect WINS, first new single family home starts are soaring and sales for new homes at this time of the year are at historic highs, watch for the Home Ownership Rate to start Increasing after falling to historic lows during the disaster that was "The Lost Years".

rrb said...

Oh Roger...

I recall you posting polls showing Hillary Clinton with double digit leads and how the Democrats were going to sweep both houses of congress.
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yeah, that was supposed to be with one of those "LANDSLIDE!!!11!" thingys, complete with some "DEVASTATION!!!11!" and a "BOOM!!!11!".

ah, the good old days of roger's failed political prognostications.

everything old is new again.




the reality is that schumer knows he's fucked six ways from sunday on this deal, and his gesture is simply to play to his far left base of imbeciles.

opie said...

Nobody even knows what the new health care plan even looks like.

Funny how that has come around, isn't it CH... Weren't you guys making that same complaint about the Original ACA ....Now, your side who has had 7 years of repealing and 50 or so votes, can't get out of their own way.... Please hurry and pass it.....!!!!! Seems trump has tossed the congress under the bus and has wiped his hands clean.....yeah, he's got your back.

KD, Trump Care is Dead, Roger Krugman said so, DOW Down 600 points said...

the reality is that schumer knows he's fucked six ways from sunday on this deal, and his gesture is simply to play to his far left base of imbeciles."

I agree RRB, the real problem is that post election polling showed that 25 percent of voters were moved from Hillary to Trump because of his published List of who he would put on the USSC, did Hillary ever post a list or give a public concession speech?

Senators in Trump Deep Red States have to run for re-election, Senator Carla McKatskiner of MO, is going to be a prime target, MO went all in for Republicans and Trump in 2016.

Jobs are Returning to MO in a big way as the Republicans have their was with the Gov a Republican the MO Senate Republican and MO House Republican.

C.H. Truth said...

Yes Opie...

This "plan" doesn't feel any more well planned than Obamacare. I think they would be much better served moving the tax cuts and other more popular measures through before taking on this fight.

Obviously they do not have an adoring media around to provide any cover if they "undo" Obamacare under the same circumstances that it was originally passed. The media will obviously fight them every step of the way. The dishonest CBO reports will provide them much fodder.

All that being said, other pollsters suggest that the rank and file Republicans still want Obamacare repeal (regardless of replacement) and that independents are still unhappy with Obamacare.

Perhaps the best step is to just repeal what you can (mandates, taxes, etc) and make the Democrats take some ownership of a new plan. For once have both Parties work together for something (rather than work for political gain).

opie said...

Obviously they do not have an adoring media

Oh please, after having 7 years to do something....chaos and discord amongst your own members. The rank and file who got trump elected, are the ones who will be hurt the most. Good....votes have consequences and we will see how well donnie will help when he abandons the latest legislation. Yeah....blame it on the democrats since they are not helping....kinda like the R's and ACA. Oh well, you now own obamacare and all its warts. This really is fun to watch....

C.H. Truth said...

Opie -

The GOP owns the White House, the Senate, the House, and soon the USSC...

Which of course... is what is most important, huh?

Democrats still own Obamacare. If the house passes this plan, and the Senate blocks it... it will still be Obamacare, and Democrats will still be seen as defending it.

Roger Amick said...

Opie, did you notice that CHTrumpisright that the American people,will blame the failure to pass "repeal and replace Obamacare" the premier campaign promise, fails to pass today, on the Democrats?

rrb said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
Opie, did you notice that CHTrumpisright that the American people,will blame the failure to pass "repeal and replace Obamacare" the premier campaign promise, fails to pass today, on the Democrats?
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no, oh ye of pickled liver.

if it fails to pass both houses and get codified into law, then what will remain will be the original 0linsky-care, that which the democrats have ALWAYS exclusively owned - lock, stock, and barrel.

and THAT is an undeniable fact, and the coldhearted truth.

opie said...

The GOP owns the White House, the Senate, the House, and soon the USSC

And how is that working OUT??? You got nunes leaking classified data.....the manafort links to russia.....millions of illegal votes.....yep, you will soon on the healthcare disaster you so loathe. This is way too much fun to watch and as roger points out, trump will be blameless, again and you will buy it!!!! Keep hoping things will change....it will not as trump is nothing more than a glorified grade school bully who needs his nose bloodied and the congress will probably do it. But, you will defend him and his policy that will cost people their lives.

Myballs said...

Only an idiot like dopie would whine about classified info being 'leaked' to the friggin president.

opie said...

Myballs said...
Only an idiot like dopie would whine about classified

And only the wantonly stupid would not realize nunes was the biggest complainer of classified info being leaked during the hearing on monday.. But that's okay ballz, careful observation is not your strong suit. LOL BTW,,,, the info was leaked to the media at his presser. Idiot.

Roger Amick said...

American voters disapprove 56 - 17 percent, with 26 percent undecided, of the Republican health care plan to replace Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today. Support among Republicans is a lackluster 41 - 24 percent.

If their U.S. Senator or member of Congress votes to replace Obamacare with the Republican health care plan, 46 percent of voters say they will be less likely to vote for that person, while 19 percent say they will be more likely and 29 percent say this vote won't matter, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University Poll finds.

Disapproval of the Republican plan is 56 - 22 percent among men, 56 - 13 percent among women, 54 - 20 percent among white voters, 64 - 10 percent among non-white voters, 80 - 3 percent among Democrats, 58 - 14 percent among independent voters and by margins of 2-1 or more in every age group.

One out of every seven Americans, 14 percent, think they will lose their health insurance under the Republican plan. That 14 percent includes 27 percent of voters in families with household income below $30,000, 18 percent of working class families and 14 percent of middle class families.

Fewer Americans would be covered under the GOP plan than are covered under Obamacare, 61 percent of voters find, while 8 percent say more would be covered and 18 percent say the number would be about the same.

"Replacing Obamacare will come with a price for elected representatives who vote to scrap it, say many Americans, who clearly feel their health is in peril under the Republican alternative," said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.

It is "very important" that health insurance be affordable for all Americans, 85 percent of voters say. Another 13 percent say it is "somewhat important."

When it is explained that federal funding for Planned Parenthood is used only for non- abortion health issues, American voters oppose cutting federal funding to Planned Parenthood 80 - 14 percent, including 60 - 32 percent among Republicans. In a simple question, without the explanation, voters oppose cutting Planned Parenthood funding 61 - 33 percent.

Voters also oppose 74 - 22 percent, including 54 - 39 percent among Republicans, cutting federal funding for Medicaid.

Only 12 percent of American voters say the Republican health care plan would have a positive impact on their health care, as 30 percent say it will have a negative impact and 50 percent say it will have no impact.

President Donald Trump and Republicans in Congress should repeal all of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), 20 percent of voters say. Another 50 percent say repeal parts of the ACA and 27 percent say don't repeal any of the ACA.

Voters disapprove 61 - 29 percent of the way President Trump is handling health care.

From March 16 - 21, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,056 voters nationwide with a margin of error of +/- 3 percentage points. Live interviewers call landlines and cell phones.

The Quinnipiac University Poll, directed by Douglas Schwartz, Ph.D., conducts public opinion surveys in Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Florida, Ohio, Virginia, Iowa, Colorado and the nation as a public service and for research.

Visit poll.qu.edu or www.facebook.com/quinnipiacpoll Call (203) 582-5201, or follow us on Twitter @QuinnipiacPoll.


29. Do you approve or disapprove of the way Donald Trump is handling - health care?

Roger Amick said...

The people will blame Obama, obviously said "Trump is right" truth.
BTW racist rodent bigot, my MELD score is 16. Not pickled. Its the other health problems that matter.

Thanks for paying for my Medicare senior advantage with Kaiser Permanente. Maximum co pay for me and my lovely Panamanian Queen,is $4,400/year. That's less than 5% of our income.

Commonsense said...

When it is explained that federal funding for Planned Parenthood is used only for non- abortion health issues, American voters oppose cutting federal funding to Planned Parenthood 80 - 14 percent

Well that's a lie. Planned parenthood is nothing but abortions.

That's why they are fighting so hard for the money.

C.H. Truth said...

When it is explained that federal funding for Planned Parenthood is used only for non- abortion health issues, American voters oppose cutting federal funding to Planned Parenthood 80 - 14 percent

I am pro-choice... but even I can see that if federal funding pays for everything else... then it leaves them more of their other funding to pay for abortions.

The better question is whether or not the federal Government should be funding Planned Parenthood or other women's clinics that do not provide abortion services?

I would wonder out loud... if this is really just about women's clinics (and not about abortions) why does the left continue to get angry when politicians attempt to move the funding away from Planned Parenthood and to other clinics that provide everything else PP does... but offers things that Planned Parenthood doesn't? (such as a variety of cancer screenings).

Roger Amick said...

D.O.A. Speaker
Ryan.

Commonsense said...

I am pro-choice... but even I can see that if federal funding pays for everything else... then it leaves them more of their other funding to pay for abortions.

If they are "explaining" that funding to planned parenthood doesn't go for abortions, then it is definitely a push poll.

Commonsense said...

They pulled the bill.

Bad day for the Republicans.

rrb said...

Roger Amick said...
American voters disapprove 56 - 17 percent, with 26 percent undecided, of the Republican health care plan to replace Obamacare

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that's nice.

i'll bet that better than 90% of americans couldn't even begin to accurately describe the GOP bill.

so you got that going for you, rog.


rrb said...

why does the left continue to get angry when politicians attempt to move the funding away from Planned Parenthood and to other clinics that provide everything else PP does... but offers things that Planned Parenthood doesn't? (such as a variety of cancer screenings).
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because abortion is THE blessed sacrament of the church of liberalism.



Commonsense said...

Not sacrament, sacrifice as in human sacrifice.

rrb said...

BTW racist rodent bigot, my MELD score is 16.
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so what's the equivalent in "proof"?

what's that, like 32 proof?

rrb said...

Roger Amick said...
D.O.A. Speaker
Ryan.
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by a landslide with a devastating boom???

rrb said...

If they are "explaining" that funding to planned parenthood doesn't go for abortions, then it is definitely a push poll.
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without the ability to provide abortion, PP would have no reason to exist and women would have no reason to ever go there.


Roger Amick said...

Death Care aka TrumpCare is dead!

Commonsense said...

Yep America lost today.

Roger Amick said...

MELD, is a scoring system for assessing the severity of chronic liver disease. It was initially developed to predict mortality within three months of surgery in patients who had undergone a transjugular intrahepatic portosystemic shunt (TIPS) procedure,[1] and was subsequently found to be useful in determining prognosis and prioritizing for receipt of a liver transplant.[2][3] This score is now used by the United Network for Organ Sharing (UNOS) and Eurotransplant for prioritizing allocation of liver transplants instead of the older patients.

Normal is 1-2

Google it dumbbell.

Roger Amick said...

The United States of America has been a victory for non Trumpism© patients. An curable disease.

"Trump is right" is a symptom of the disease! :-) :-) :-)

rrb said...

Normal is 1-2
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and yours is 16.

so you're pretty much fucked, eh?

i can see the end of picking up the tab of your medicare senior advantage.

LOL.

parasite.

Commonsense said...

The United States of America has been a victory for non Trumpism© patients. An curable disease.

Victory? People are still forced to buy expensive, useless health plans that "covers" things they don't want and will never get.

Not to mention the millions of unborn babys murdered at taxpayers expense.

You have a sick definition of "victory".

KD said...

Winning Biggly "Charter's four-year plan to add 20K jobs and invest $25B in the USA".

That is what really matters , it was THE number ONE issue across all voters in 2016.

Trump won on that issue and boy is he delivering.

Opie, you asked how is it working out for us Pro-America Trump voter, let me tell ya. This is a BIG FUCKING DEAL.

First , IF President Trump does Nothing, it is a YUGE WIN, because Hillary Clinton will never be the President.

Period!!!

Roger Amick said...

I paid Medicare taxes for over 40 years.

KD, Trump - The Jobs President said...

Any one seen Roger Krugman Today?

Yesterday he told me that I was paying for his transplant.

I asked him how is that possible, I did not Pay into Social Security, nor Medicare and did not send money to his two failed jobs.

So , RK , exactly how did I pay for your medical bilking ?

Why did you cheat your ex wife out of money that was due to her?

Really shabby behavior.

KD, Hillary will never Be President said...

I paid Medicare taxes for over 40 years." Roger Krugman

Idiot, what a bad deal for you and your ex wife and current wife, wait, not for her, she has been in the USA for not that long, latched onto the Welfare State and got all the free medical treatments other tax payers can stand, you double bilk.

rrb said...

People are still forced to buy expensive, useless health plans that "covers" things they don't want and will never get.
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roger has a death grip on his mammogram and pap smear coverage and refuses to let go.

wphamilton said...

Ryan and Trump surrendered on their big ObamaCare Repeal bill - not because of any Democratic resistance but because of the unreasonableness in their own party! Trump delivered his ultimatum, declared he was done negotiating, and no one cared. They can't even get it past the House. That it's as I expected doesn't make it any less funny.

You'd think that after this fiasco it will dawn on the GOP that their extremist wing isn't going to stop their obstruction just because their own party is in power, and that the path forward is to compromise enough that moderate Democrats will go along with their legislation. But somehow I doubt it - it's going to take more than one big failure before they decide that the humiliation is worse than upsetting the whack-jobs.

So they're probably going to put this aside - though I'm sure they'll eventually get something to vote on - and get on with cutting taxes and entitlements. But there too, as long as the super-rich are paying anything, and if the working class are getting a break, the nut-jobs are going to dig in their heels and demand more. Who knows, maybe they'll use their budget-default trick again, against their own Party leaders. I'm looking forward to it.

KD said...

Trump signed off on the Keystone Pipeline so did his State Department and now Canada a wonderful trading partner can get to the work at hand with the Labor of American Unions and Non-Union workers.

Economic development in the Heartland is booming and will continue as Trump Racks up more Pro-Growth Victories.


I will say this, Speaker Ryan is a Pussy, hold the vote , flush out the weak and put them on the record.

Roger Amick said...

The events of the last 67 days proves the lesson of California.

The voters in California elected a television reality show as governor. Arnold Schwarzenegger was a disaster. If the American people had looked back at the failure of a celebrity government, Hillary Rodham Clinton would be leading a unified nation. You all have forgotten the monumental statement: “a house divided against itself cannot stand.”

This President is trying to divide the nation against itself.

KD, Can't Wait for the List from WP said...

moderate Democrats " WP

Take a minute and let us know by name who are those 10 Moderate Democrat Senators and 20 Moderate Democrats in the US House?


I wrote both my US Senator and US House Member and told Him and Her to vote no, NO to Obama lite, Yes to only full repeal with no fucking replacement.

We have to end the spiral of socialism and the interlopers at some point, 146 Trillion in Unfunded Liability is enough to saddle the next 3 generations with.

rrb said...

You have a sick definition of "victory".

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it's every liberal's definition of victory:


"All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."



Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/b/benitomuss109829.html

KD, 20,000 more Jobs, 25 Billion new Investment in USA, Winning Biggly said...

Hillary Rodham Clinton would be leading a unified nation."

you have to be attempting stand up comedy, that is all I can figure the above is about.


wphamilton said...

I've got to say, I don't really care about Gorsuch but if he really does have superstar intellect and education I'm fine with it. It seems like the last several Supreme Court appointments have amounted to a kind of brain drain, and I for one would be happy to see that reversed. Regardless of the politics.

The thing is, with the more intellectual judges you can't make bank on their political leanings. Be careful what you wish for.

wphamilton said...

There lies the problem with your champions, KD. You cannot even imagine compromising with ANY of the Democrats. In those particular elected officials, it exemplifies a level of self-centered dogmatism that will doom the entire Republican agenda if left unchecked.

True Republican leaders, who want to get something done, will have to swallow the bitter pill and reshape the agenda to have broader appeal. If all goes well, the result will be reality crashing down on your extremists, who will find themselves with less leverage the more they indulge in their accustomed antics, until they have all been marginalized. That's best result of course, and there is no guarantee that someone like Ryan has the foresight and gumption to bring that about.

rrb said...

You cannot even imagine compromising with ANY of the Democrats.
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wp, before anyone offers the advice of compromising and negotiating with democrats, someone needs to explain why government is involved in health care IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Roger Amick said...

He is trying to blame the Democrats, for his failure to govern, despite the Republicans winning control of congress and the White House. They can't govern.

opie said...

here lies the problem with your champions,

WP, ya gotta have a brain to compromise... In this case, R's as a whole aren't smart enough to realize that sometimes you must work with others to get something done. Listening to the donald blame they had no D support with the bill was comical. He couldn't get er done having a clear majority in the house because of the lack of compromise in his own party. Naturally, ryan will take the blame and donnie will remain blameless and move on to the next deal, taxes. Oh well, wonder what the approval rate will be, but they were really close, but you now own obamacare. A big chuckle from this biased poster.

opie said...

Next THE WALL which the US tax payer will get stuck with.....Go for it, donnie!!!!!!

wphamilton said...

RRB, the Government is in Health Care because somebody passed a law that put them there - that is the reality that you have to deal with.

A whole lot of people, constituents not just politicians, actually LIKE one part or another of the ACA. Only the extremists believe they can just burn the law, because they think that the Government simply doesn't belong, and those extremists are delusional. Sorry, but those are the cold hard facts.

rrb said...

The thing is, with the more intellectual judges you can't make bank on their political leanings.
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perhaps, but dimmer bulbs like sotomayor and kagan can always be relied upon to be liberal.

i'd rather take a shot on the superior intellect every time.

opie said...

wp, before anyone offers the advice of compromising a

Before tossing stones, look in the mirror beaner hater.....your lack of intellect does not allow you the ability to see how to get things done, instead you hold your ears and stomp your feet and fail. Keep holding your breath, you got fucking nothing but stupid on your side.

rrb said...




eat a pistol, 0pie.

opie said...

7 years of voting repeal, and all rat can do is blame the scotus???? Pure genius, even the goat farmer can come up with something more cogent. Friggin hysterical watching the coverage and you ranting like a 2 year old. Dayum paybacks are a bitch and you did it all by your friggin self.

wphamilton said...

It seems to me that the dumbing down started with Sotomayer and has gone downhill from there. While I am more inclined to agree with more expressive Constitutional interpretations than with the strict textualist, that's really secondary in my mind to the ability to truly understand precedent, realize consequences, and world-class legal reasoning. When those attributes are present, political leanings take a back seat. When absent, there sometimes seems to be a reliance on visceral instinct.

rrb said...

Anonymous wphamilton said...
RRB, the Government is in Health Care because somebody passed a law that put them there - that is the reality that you have to deal with.
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precisely. and that should be our starting point to any government-led effort at reform.

the net result should be a total government exit from healthcare which allows consumers to purchase it like any other service.

C.H. Truth said...

expressive Constitutional interpretations than with the strict textualis

What's somewhat counter-intuitive in this case is that those Justices that seem to have the most intellectual abilities to see "world class legal reasoning" tend to be more strict constitutionalists. Largely because they are actually attempting to interpret legal precedent, the law, and the constitution.

Expressive constitutional interpretations is really a code name for bending and distorting laws and precedents to get to a desired outcome, that generally comes 100% from political leanings (rather than the law).


Oddly (and I think WP would agree) that the strict constitutionalists are probably less predictable in their rulings than the expressive constitutional interpretaionalists... because the former may or may not follow a political path, where as the latter pretty much can be guaranteed to follow a political path.

KD said...

moderate Democrats " WP

Take a minute and let us know by name who are those 10 Moderate Democrat Senators and 20 Moderate Democrats in the US House?"

You can't list them, OK,

Next issue.

opie said...

Oddly (and I think WP would agree)

Oddly, your side just took one up the ass. Your post is just another failed excuse for your self inflicted failure. The rhetorical support of repeal and replace shows your boy Ryan has the leadership of a big fat ZERO!!!

opie said...

While I am more inclined to agree with more expressive Constitutional interpretations

Like a company is a person???? Me thinks that is where the decline started and continues with gorsuch.....

opie said...

One thing I learned working for a major defense contractor, is that you always had to have a plan B!!! Seems having a single node path to failure always falls flat. Trump the brilliant business leader should have realized that, but failed in the most basic sense. IDIOT.

opie said...

Anonymous KD said...
moderate Democrats " WP

Great loss dunce boy. Your inane posting continues.

KD, WP it is your issue said...

Mine, nope, WP's topic, he said there are "Moderate Democrats".

I just asked her to post them so we could all know who they are.

OPIE said...

Sane republicon's Ain't no such thing using you as an example of why this country is so fucked.