President's Trump's response (RV):
- 51% not strong enough
- 31% strong enough
- 18% have no opinion
Statues honoring Confederacy leaders (RV):
- 62% remain as historical symbol
- 28% be removed because they are offensive
- 10% have no opinion
The Antifa and their beliefs (RV):
- 5% mostly agree
- 24% mostly disagree
- 18% have no opinion
- 50% wonder who are the Antifa?
So after the media spent more time pummeling the President's response to the violence in Virginia than they spent actually discussing what happened... it would appear that there is a much smaller percentage of people aghast by the President than they likely suspected. While the media would have you believe that this has been he worst week in the history of any President who ever lived (CBS devoting their entire evening news on Tuesday to the cause), it turns out that only about half the country even took issue with what he stated. For, Trump... having only half the country disagree with him must feel like a win.
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Moreover, it would appear that the country agrees with the underlying cause of the protest, at least in terms of tearing down the statues. Less than a third of the country wants these statues removed (including only 6% of Republicans and 27% of Independents). A majority believe that they should stay as a historical symbol. This seems to reinforce the eyewitness and video accounts (pretty much ignored by the media) that there were protesters there who were "not" white supremacists, and had reasons (other than racism) for wanting to protect the "historical symbols".
Oddly, NPR/PBS either didn't ask (or didn't report) whether or not the public felt the President was correct when he stated that multiple groups were responsible for the violence. But at the very least, we have pollsters and the media talking about the Antifascist movement, and it appears that they have significantly less of a following than our liberal media apparently thought.
However, not too surprisingly, the public doesn't know much about the Antifascist movement. I am guessing after the events of this past week, along with the "controversial statements" by the President calling attention to them... that this will not be the case moving forward. I suspect that more and more people will start to wonder and start to look into exactly who these people are. Which is at least one positive thing that came out of all of this.
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However, not too surprisingly, the public doesn't know much about the Antifascist movement.
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of course they don't. nor did they hear much about this:
An anti-Trump activist has been accused of executing his neighbor who was a prominent Republican supporter.
Clayton Carter allegedly shot George Jennings, both 51, twice in the head outside his home in Pennsylvania in the early hours of August 8.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4793016/Anti-Trump-activist-executed-Republican-neighbor.html#ixzz4q17ChVQg
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the public doesn't know much about the Antifascist movement.
Because they are not killing anyone and actually stand against the KKK Nazi's and the alt right. Plus they don't have a mouthpiece like breitbart and fox.....Idiot...
(45) cancelled the campaign style really in Phoenix Arizona, after the mayor requested that he cancel the event.
He's lost corporate America.
He's lost Steve Bannon.
He's lost General Kelly.
He's lost the United States Senate.
He's lost the armed forces Commanders in Chief.
The center will survive.
His attempt to take the country back to the Jim Crow era, has failed.
His attempt to equalize the resistance to the Neo-Nazi movement, antisemitism, white superiority, with the resistance has failed.
Just so we're clear. One radical muslim terrorist doesn't represent all of Islam. But one white supremacist idiot represents everyone who voted for Trump.
Have i got that about right main stream media?
But one white supremacist idiot represents everyone who voted for Trump.
You said that, no one else....
That would be Phoenix mayor Stanton, a democrat.
Got it.
I guess all those torch carriers were those fine nazi's trump was talking about....
That would be Phoenix mayor Stanton, a democrat.
So what.....
Yep... trump again proves what side he is on....stupid...
BREAKING: President Trump calls efforts to remove Civil War statues 'foolish'
The Marist Poll.
POLITICS 8/16: Trump at Lowest Point With 35% Job Approval Rating… Crack at the Base
President Donald Trump’s job approval rating is at its lowest point since taking office with only 35% of Americans giving him a positive score.
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ByMarist PollPublished on August 16, 2017
President Donald Trump’s job approval rating is at its lowest point since taking office with only 35% of Americans giving him a positive score. 55% disapprove of the job he is doing which is his highest negative rating as president. Although still popular among his key constituency, notably, his job performance rating has dropped among strong Republicans from 91% in June to 79% now. In addition, by more than two to one, Americans who strongly disapprove of his job performance, 42%, outnumber those who strongly approve, 20%. In June, his overall approval rating stood at 37%, and 51% disapproved. At a similar time in President Obama’s tenure, 55% of registered voters approved of the job he was doing, and 35% disapproved.
“While Republicans are still largely in Trump’s corner, the cautionary tale for the president lies in the softening of support at his base,” says Dr. Lee M. Miringoff, Director of The Marist College Institute for Public Opinion. “Since his numbers among Democrats and independents are weak, a crack among his most ardent supporters is something Trump can ill afford.”
More Americans also have a negative impression of the president. 60% of residents, including one in five Republicans, view Trump unfavorably, representing his most unpopular standing since assuming office. Only 34% have a favorable view of him. When this question was last reported in June, Trump’s negative score was 56%, and his positive rating was 37%.
"A collection of fools" Steve Bannon on the staff of (45). He is also the leaker in chief.
Lindsey was correct.....he's the great divider... our man child throwing another lorettaesque tantrum....
WASHINGTON — Under fire for defending racist activist groups, President Trump said on Twitter on Thursday that he was “sad” to see United States’ history torn apart by the removal of “our beautiful statues and monuments,” echoing a popular refrain of white supremacist groups that oppose the removal of Confederate monuments.
Officials in several states have called for the removal of public monuments that have become symbols of the Confederacy.
The Twitter posts were the latest in his escalating remarks that critics contend validates white supremacist groups who led a bloody rally over the weekend in Charlottesville, Va. The proposed removal of a statute of the Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee from a public park in Charlottesville spurred the demonstrations.
Beautiful statues are things like the pieta....david....RE Lee is a general on the losing side....fuck them....
In Arizona, ever a Democratic mayor is conservative in a deeply red state.
The great divider is on the other side of the blog.
office with only 35%
Yep, only 35% of the population are abject idiots....just look at this joint.....idiots
Rubio to Trump: Your comments give white supremacists "a win"
Sen. Marco Rubio issued a statement via Twitter on Tuesday denouncing President Trump's repeated statements that "many sides" were responsible for this weekend's violence in Charlottesville during his press conference this afternoon, telling Trump that spreading the blame for the events would allow white supremacists to count it "as a win."
He will be a strong contender for the nomination in 2020.
Cease and desist with insults. They expose themselves.
He will be a strong contender for the nomination in 2020.
For who? Only 19% of Republicans thought the President's remarks were off mark.
The United States of America now has a "president" who is soft on Nazism, soft on KKKism, soft on fascism.
He is a fascist.
Under fire for defending racist activist groups, President Trump said on Twitter on Thursday that he was “sad” to see United States’ history torn apart by the removal of “our beautiful statues and monuments,” echoing a popular refrain of white supremacist groups that oppose the removal of Confederate monuments.
Actually Trump is echoing the view of 62% of Americans...
You see... most Americans are not slaves to the great liberal media opinion. Unlike some of you, who are not only slaves to these opinions, but are apparently not even capable of coming up with anything on your own.
Former CIA director John Brennan slams (45).
Just watched your interview with Senator Blumenthal when you mentioned that you lost all four of your grandparents to the unspeakable evil of Nazism. I just want to extend my sympathies not only for their deaths but also to you and your family--and countless others--for the pain inflicted today by the despicable words of Donald Trump. Mr. Trump's words, and the beliefs they reflect, are a national disgrace, and all Americans of conscience need to repudiate his ugly and dangerous comments. If allowed to continue along this senseless path, Mr. Trump will do lasting harm to American society and to our standing in the world. "Attention CH" By his words and his actions, Mr. Trump is putting our national security and our collective futures at grave risk.
Myballs, yes you have it right.
Antifa fighting in the streets against the Chicago Police.
Antifa facebook looks like the Hillary Failed campaign site.
"1100 Sq feet" with a mortgage.
Deeply red my ass. Their two senators are john mccain and jeff flake.
John Brennan the communist?
Trump Opens Breach with CEOs, Military
AND WITH ANYONE DECENT
“President Trump found himself increasingly isolated in a racial crisis of his own making on Wednesday, abandoned by the nation’s top business executives, contradicted by military leaders and shunned by Republicans outraged by his defense of white nationalist protesters in Charlottesville,” the New York Times reports.
“The breach with the business community was the most striking. Titans of American industry and finance revolted against a man they had seen as one of their own, concluding Wednesday morning they could no longer serve on two of Mr. Trump’s advisory panels.
“Five armed services chiefs — of the Army, the Air Force, the Navy, the Marines and the National Guard Bureau — posted statements on social media condemning neo-Nazis and racism in uncompromising terms. They did not mention Mr. Trump by name, but their messages were a highly unusual counter to the commander in chief.”
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His staff report that he is seething, boiling, enraged.
GOP Lawmakers Are Apparently In Hiding
The Washington Post reports that Republicans want nothing to do with defending President Trump’s remarks on the white supremacist violence in Charlottesville.
“We invited every single Republican senator on this program tonight — all 52,” Chuck Todd said on MSNBC’s “MTP Daily” on Wednesday. “We asked roughly a dozen House Republicans, including a bunch of committee chairs, and we asked roughly a half dozen former Republican elected officials, and none of them agreed to discuss this issue with us today.”
That’s about 70 rejections altogether, and other news anchors had the same experience on Wednesday — even on Fox News.
“Our booking team — and they’re good — reached out to Republicans of all stripes across the country today,” Shepard Smith told his viewers. “Let’s be honest: Republicans often don’t really mind coming on Fox News Channel. We couldn’t get anyone to come and defend him here. Because we thought, in balance, someone should do that. We worked very hard at it throughout the day, and we were unsuccessful.”
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They won't even defend him on Fox "News" but Ch will defend him here on UnTruth.
I was sure just a month ago Jane told us freedom of speech was shutdown, now Jane posted that freedom of speech is being freely exersized. Jane is a kite,moves with the slightest breeze,at age 79 so frail, so sad.
For those that don't read alky post, he declared 2018 will see the us senate and house with a democrat majority. Yep landslide.
Trump Defends Confederate Statues
President Trump doubled-down on Twitter and defended the “beautiful” Confederate statues:
Sad to see the history and culture of our great country being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments. You… can’t change history, but you can learn from it. Robert E Lee, Stonewall Jackson – who’s next, Washington, Jefferson? So foolish! Also… the beauty that is being taken out of our cities, towns and parks will be greatly missed and never able to be comparably replaced!
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who’s next, Washington, Jefferson?
I'm a Southerner but I wasn't aware that Washington and Jefferson ever rebelled against our Constitution and our Union.
Has the Military Given Up on Trump?
Carl Bernstein on CNN: “I think there’s considerable evidence that there is a consensus developing in the military; at the highest levels in the intelligence community; among Republicans in Congress; including the leaders in the business community that President Trump is unfit to be the President of the United States.”
He added: “I’ve talked to some of the military leaders and what they are saying is extraordinary… They have given up on this president.”
Finally: “I think all reporters need to be checking their sources and finding out what people on the Hill and in the military and in the intelligence community are saying… about the stability and the mental condition of the president of the United States. This is something we haven’t dealt with before.”
I fully understand the historical importance of the Monuments. No one is telling me how to think about them. But (45) just tweeted that the removal of the statues "is foolish". I report you decide.
Personally I understood the historical importance, but they represent the worst and deadly conflict in the history of the United States. The war was in large part, the desire of the southern states, to continue the institution of slavery. The war ended 143 years ago. If I was in the place to make the decision I would not tear them down. But I completely understand especially in the African American population that it represents the worst part of American history and they need to think that they are now part of this country and are no longer a second-class citizen and feel horrible about the institution of slavery. It is time to move on according to those people and well it's their decision not mine. Number 45 is not telling me how to think neither is anybody else.
Winning more jobs and more work in the USA.
Industrial Poduction index
End of the lost years =103.45
TRUMP BUMP = 105.47
62% of Americans disagree with you Roger.
Well - I am glad that the three of you all convinced each other that this is now the 327th different "straw that breaks the camel's back" for Donald Trump...
But something tells me that he is still going to be President a week from now, a month from now, a year from now, and that ultimately this is just another example of faux outrage by a bunch of people so obsessed with being outraged that I am not sure they even remember what it was like before they were constantly consumed with their outrage.
CBS spends their "entire evening newscast" to the words of the President and it turns out that half the country doesn't give a big enough shit that they would have listened to two minutes of it.
Steve Bannon, Unrepentant
White House adviser Stephen Bannon called Robert Kuttner at the American Prospect to discuss his article on China but apparently didn’t realize the entire conversation was on the record.
Among the highlights:
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He admitted he was fighting with colleagues: “That’s a fight I fight every day here. We’re still fighting. There’s Treasury and Gary Cohn and Goldman Sachs lobbying… We gotta do this. The president’s default position is to do it, but the apparatus is going crazy. Don’t get me wrong. It’s like, every day.”
He undercut the president’s threats on North Korea: “There’s no military solution, forget it. Until somebody solves the part of the equation that shows me that ten million people in Seoul don’t die in the first 30 minutes from conventional weapons, I don’t know what you’re talking about, there’s no military solution here, they got us.”
He explained his strategy towards race: “The Democrats, the longer they talk about identity politics, I got ’em. I want them to talk about racism every day. If the left is focused on race and identity, and we go with economic nationalism, we can crush the Democrats.”
On white nationalists: “Ethno-nationalism—it’s losers. It’s a fringe element. I think the media plays it up too much, and we gotta help crush it, you know, uh, help crush it more. These guys are a collection of clowns.”
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Jonathan Swan: “The piece gives Bannon’s enemies ammunition at a time he’s extraordinarily vulnerable. They’ve been saying he’s a leaker, a self-promoter, ‘President Bannon,’ etc. This interview plays right into their hands.”
The price of straw has spiked since Nov 9th,2016
This is the business news I have been waiting for, the basement pj generation has not been buying there own homes during the Lost years.
Now that generation is starting to buy homes.
McConnell is consumed by that "faux" outrage, Ch.
It's a shame that Robert E Lee is vilified by the alt left media today. Is shows a total ignorance of history.
If it wasn't for Lee it would be highly doubtful we would have had the nation we have today.
Because on April 15, 1865, when everyone from Jefferson Davis down to his corp and division commanders said he should disband the Army of Northern Virginia into partisan groups and conduct a never-ending guerilla war, he decided to surrender the army instead.
He wanted the war to end and the nation to heal. His surrendered set the template for the later surrender of Joe Johnson's forces in North Carolina and all other Confederate forces.
The fact that the nation did not descend into never-ending civil strife was due the Lee's courageous decision.
And to ignoramuses like Roger who think Lee committed treason against the United States?
He committed "treason" against the United States because he couldn't commit treason against his native Virginia.
And that was the issue of the Civil War in a nutshell.
US LEADING INDICATORS took another strong rise.
Lee was a very good man. That does not make slavery a good thing.
Slavery is a moral and political evil.
Robert E. Lee
The civil war was not all about slavery. And if you spoke to the participants, they would say it wasn't about slavery at all.
Something stinks about Charlottesville
"Evidence is turning up from, of all places, the Southern Poverty Law Center, as well as Breitbart and others, that this character, Jason Kessler, who organized the suspicious and supposed Alt-Right demonstration in Charlottesville, Va. that blew up in everyone's face, is a cunning lefty holdover from the Occupy Wall Street movement and a former Barack Obama supporter. I smell Soros money, sabotage, and Democrat dirty tricks here."
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/08/something_stinks_about_charlottesville.html
WHAT, AN OBAMA SUPPORTER IS THE ORGANIZER FOR THE WHITE SUPREMISTS ???
Give the Democrats lots of rope, I think their antifa support is going to end up being a huge albatross... And what's up with law enforcement not engaging because of the Democratic mayor, and also old Clinton ally Virginia governor Terry McAuliffe blatantly lying about the situation police faced there????
If only we had a fair press not so worried about taking selfies... but the stink is something that can't be swept under the carpet forever along with all the other Obama scandals... I see the FBI is opening up the tarmac investigation again... not a smidgen of anything wrong right, except a fish stinking from the head of the Obama administration and perhaps an independent and much needed look at more of these scandals .... We need to hold our nose but not close our eyes...
James -
I just got off the phone with Mitch. He says he is perfectly fine with what Trump stated, and that reports that he was upset are 100% wrong.
So, I hope that is good enough for you.
McConnell Said to be ‘Upset’ with Trump
August 16, 2017 at 10:55 am
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), who has been publicly silent so far over President Trump’s latest remarks on Charlottesville, “is privately upset” with the president’s handling of the episode, CNN reports.
What he said publicly: “The white supremacist, KKK, and neo-nazi groups who brought hatred and violence to Charlottesville are now planning a rally in Lexington. Their messages of hate and bigotry are not welcome in Kentucky and should not be welcome anywhere in America. We can have no tolerance for an ideology of racial hatred. There are no good neo-nazis, and those who espouse their views are not supporters of American ideals and freedoms. We all have a responsibility to stand against hate and violence, wherever it raises its evil head.”
“McConnell, who has a long history of working on civil rights issues, is deeply concerned that Trump is reopening long-festering racial tensions, something that could fan the flames ahead of demonstrations expected in Lexington, Kentucky.”
Van crashes into dozens of people in Barcelona, several injured
Trump to KKK, Nazis, white supremacists: Welcome.
McConnell to KKK, Nazis, white supremacists: Not welcome.
I see the liar "pastor" james is busy again.
Throw some more coal on the furnace for him
ROFLMFAO !!!
The civil war was not all about slavery. And if you spoke to the participants, they would say it wasn't about slavery at all.
--Common"sense"
I guess this participant got it wrong:
One eighth of the whole population were colored slaves. Not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the Southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. All knew that this interest was, somehow, the cause of the war.
--A. Lincoln
Do all NAZI's consider themselves PATRIOTS ?
It seems at least james does.
It seems "f... daddy" has nothing intelligent to say.
CH you can't read I said I would not tear down the truth of the statue I said I would not do it read my words please I said I would not do it personally no I would not
If I could preserve the union by freeing all of the slaves, I would. If I could preserve the union by freeing none of the slaves, I would. If I could preserve the union by freeing some of the slaves but not other, I would and that's what I've done.
A. Lincoln on issuing the emancipation proclamation
"amused, James said...
It seems "f... daddy" has nothing intelligent to say. "
WOW, SMARTEST THING YOU'VE COME UP WITH IN MONTHS !!!
but as if anybody cares what you think.
ROFLMFAO !!!!
Sorry about the gibberish. I spoke into the microphone and did not edit to fix the goof-ups. But I am going home and adios amigos!
Anonymous caliphate4vr said...
Van crashes into dozens of people in Barcelona, several injured
Wow, you must get news alerts from a muslim hate site.....gee you barely beat cbs. Thank you for being so vigilant. Too bad you aren't as vigilant when it comes to american nazi's......sad cue another brilliant personal attack from our pauline....
I guess this participant got it wrong:
A union officer once asked a confederate prisoner from Tennessee why he fought. The prisoner responded: "Because you're here."
Ninety percent of the officers and soldiers in the confederate army never own slaves.
As always fatty contributes nothing
Slavery is a moral and political evil.
Robert E. Lee
But he sure fought and defended the souths right to own people. Just like the joint chiefs all came out strongly agains donnie, they still don't count, just like Lee.....
aliphate4vr said...
As always fatty contributes nothingI
Its so easy to troll your stupidity....Thanx for playing and try working for once in your life....Loser....
One of the guys pauline most admires.....crying like a baby when facing the consequences of his words. Must be a rugby player, not very bright or brave....
white nationalist who was featured in a Vice News documentary about the "Unite the Right" Charlottesville marchers at the weekend has posted a video in which he tearfully complains about his current plight.
Christopher Cantwell took part in the rally in support of Confederate hero Robert E Lee in Virginia on Saturday, which escalated to violence and ended in the death of a woman.
“I have been told there’s a warrant out for my arrest,” he said while crying on the video. “With everything that’s happening, I don’t think it’s very wise for me to go anywhere. There’s a state of emergency. The National Guard is here!”
“I want to be peaceful. I want to be law-abiding. That was the whole entire point of this,” Cantwell continues. “I’m watching CNN talk about this as a violent, white nationalist protest. We have done everything in our power to keep this peaceful!” he added.
Ninety percent of the officers and soldiers in the confederate army never own slaves.
But those other 10% owned all the land and had most of the money.....They were the ones who little johnny reb was fighting for....just like today's army.......once again proving you will defend trump no matter what......can't fix your kind of broke..
Fatty at The Villages
Anonymous caliphate4vr said...
Fatty at The Villages
Wow pauline....no wonder why you play rugby, not fast enough for real sports and likes to take hits to his head. A Real success story.....LOL
Pauline at his cousins house......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IAFFzWy7vs
Opie, Robert E. Lee had more honor in his little pinky than you do in your enormously fat body.
Big
Deal
Drunkard
The Rise of the Violent Left
"The Rise of the Violent Left"
This is the face of the dead Antifa woman.
No doubt she's been terrorizing people for years.
"JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY"
Hilarious.
"If I could preserve the union by freeing all of the slaves, I would. If I could preserve the union by freeing none of the slaves, I would. If I could preserve the union by freeing some of the slaves but not other, I would and that's what I've done."
You won't find many tribal leaders happy with Lincoln OR Jackson.
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CH you can't read I said I would not tear down the truth of the statue I said I would not do it read my words please I said I would not do it personally no I would not
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WHAT???
for fuck's sake alky, if you ain't copying and pasting you ain't worth a shit.
survival of the fittest, eh?
Anyone seen Roger today?
Commonsense said...
Opie, Robert E. Lee had more honor in his little pinky than you do in your enormously fat body.
And was a loser, just like you, pauline and the rest of you assholes....
"survival of the fittest, eh?"
The nurses at Kaiser are celebrating.
The drunkard is going home.
LOL
Yet I occupy so much of your head, fatty
images of Nazi flags and men carrying torches sickened many Americans, the president's most ardent champions saw no reason any of that should change their feelings for Trump.
Describes you and your ilk to a "t" Yeah, I want to have the same meager existence as you. A loser salesman with zero athletic abilities....Yeah Paulie, I want a piece of that.....BWAAAAA>A!!!!!!!!!!
13 murdered 50 plus injured in latest is is attack..... the three stooges of cht, how are we to understand this?
Cali you own oDopie, thank god you don't have to pay his feed bill.
2015 the lost years princess obama told us " we must address the grieveness " of these type of people.
The nurses at Kaiser are celebrating.
The drunkard is going home.
LOL
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LOL, yup.
and no matter where the alky goes, i'm along for the ride in his head rent fucking free.
how many times have i told him i don't care if he lives or dies, and how many times does he make sure to let me know his status?
Fatty you competing in eating contests is not athletic. No matter how may participation trophies you have
Fatty you competing in eating contests is not athletic.
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oh, so now d0pie thinks he's joey chestnut?
LOL.
Akly is a broke and broken dolt. He brings a subject to this blog, if we talk about he says we are stalking him. If we ask a question he runs away.
Senator Corker (R) President Trump doesn't show "Stability".
This may be the first step towards the 25 Amendment being implemented.
Is the latest towel head murderous attack a example of "workplace violence" or "overseasy contingent"?
Broke: Funny, but so obsessed.
Six figures.
Equity, You would be surprised.
Alky I have to give a tip of my rancher hat, you a queen of drama and you bring humor here. But what happen to your statement that you made on wanting President Trump to "succeed"
Big hat no cattle fits you to a tee
"how many times have i told him i don't care if he lives or dies, and how many times does he make sure to let me know his status?"
Jealous.
"Big hat no cattle fits you to a tee"
Excellent.
STOP MIS-QUOTING AND MIS-REPRESENTING LINCOLN
On August 22, 1862, just a few weeks before signing the Proclamation and after he had already discussed a draft of it with his cabinet in July, he wrote a letter in response to an editorial by Horace Greeley of the New York Tribune which had urged complete abolition.
Lincoln differentiates between "my view of official duty"—that is, what he can do in his official capacity as President—and his personal views. Officially he must save the Union above all else; personally he wanted to free all the slaves:
"I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be 'the Union as it was.' If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.
"I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men everywhere could be free."
"and no matter where the alky goes, i'm along for the ride in his head rent fucking free."
I was going to offer to pay for CH'S new blog, around $500 bucks but I decided today how crazy it would be.
The drunkard would still spam.
The vindictive pedophile would still spam.
I used to donate all of the time, but it was a different place, interesting reading and good conversation.
No more, not since the drunkard turned the original blog into a trash blog.
And certainly not since the pedophile showed up to help the drunkard turn the original blog into a trash blog.
Spam by the pedo.
Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation as a war measure which freed slaves in the ten states which seceded from the Union during the Civil War, thereby encouraging blacks to join the Union army in great numbers. Eight months after his assassination, the Thirteenth Amendment made all slavery illegal. Lincoln had placed slavery where he knew it must end, as he had already foreseen in his House Divided speech.
Rat, my old email got hacked so I shut it down. When we return home from our across the country road trip, I'll send you my new email.
😎
Pedo
This blog greatly improved and was far more interesting when the squaw was gone.
Even Ch tires of her meaningless repetitions of the same tired phrases.
As he said, they add "absolutely nothing" to the discussion here.
Pedophile
No pedo, it's far better when you are on a self imposed exile because of a meltdown
Oh, Cali almost forgot.
Along with some friends, we've set up a trust to help young people attend college. It's not based on income, but on the student's own desires to obtain a higher education.
We ask that the student apply with a letter to the board from the student, goals, etc.
It's a program to help middle to upper middle class families.
I'll send you the info.
My last absence was just because I had better things to do.
Pedophile and Pedo
See? Cali is equally boring and mindless
Knee slappingly funny, though.
"Absolutely nothing," lol.
Cool ette
Canada and Mexico agrees to open new negotiations on NAFTA. Winning for us unions and farmers/ranchers.
(45) doubled down today, with an incorrect historical event. He referred to an military action in The Philippines.
He failed history 101.
The Spanish police killed four more suspected terrorists this afternoon just a few minutes ago according to they fake News New York Times. The more they kill the better there we are.
I got an email from somebody that's obviously a traitor.
Uber
Dear Roger,
We were horrified by the neo-Nazi demonstration that took place in Charlottesville, which resulted in the loss of life of a young woman as well as two Virginia State Troopers responding to the protest. There is simply no place for this type of bigotry, discrimination, and hate.
As the country braces for more white supremacist demonstrations, we wanted to let you know what we are doing for the Uber community:
We will act swiftly and decisively to uphold our Community Guidelines, including our policy against discrimination of any kind—this includes banning people from the app.
24/7 in-app support is available to answer questions and address concerns. You always have the right to end your trip if you feel uncomfortable or disrespected.
Now more than ever we must stand together against hatred and violence. Thank you for making our community one that we can all be proud of.
On behalf of all of us at Uber,
Meghan Verena Joyce
Regional General Manager, US & Canada Cities
Another (45) hater. The chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee.
WASHINGTON — Sen. Bob Corker delivered his harshest criticism of President Trump yet, telling an audience in Chattanooga on Thursday that Trump has not demonstrated that he understands the character of the nation and has not shown the competence needed to lead.
"The president has not yet been able to demonstrate the stability, nor some of the competence, that he needs to demonstrate in order for him to be successful — and our nation and our world needs for him to be successful, whether you are Republican or Democrat,” the Tennessee Republican said at a Rotary Club meeting in Chattanooga.
Corker, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said he fears the nation will be in peril unless Trump makes radical changes at the White House.
“He also recently has not demonstrated that he understands the character of this nation,” Corker told reporters following his luncheon address. “He has not demonstrated that he understands what has made this nation great and what it is today. And he’s got to demonstrate the characteristics of a president who understands that. Without the things I just mentioned happening, our nation is going to go through great peril.”
He will be blocked.
(45) abandoned the plan for Council on infrastructure.
STOP MIS-QUOTING[sic] AND MIS-REPRESENTING[sic] LINCOLN
It wasn't a misquote or a misrepresentation of what Lincoln said and how he felt about the war.
His primary goal was to preserve the union not destroy slavery.
As you yourself proved by re-posting Lincoln letter to Horace Greeley.
I do find it amusing when you undermine your own argument.
Abraham Lincoln did not sign the Emancipation resolution until 1863 two years into the war. The original reason to stand up to the rebellion was not to stop slavery. I did not say that and you are distorting what I said as usual.
General Lee did not support slavery either. He found the institution disgusting but he's still fought the War. In fact he cost hundreds of thousands of lives because he was the best general of the the war.
He committed treason read the Constitution look it up it's not hard to find he committed treason and he should not be celebrated in public. Statues of him in a museum are fine.
I'm changing my mind on this because of all this crap. No, they should not be on the public. They represent the treason of the rebellion in the Civil War.
Wikipedia: The Emancipation Proclamation, or Proclamation 95, was a presidential proclamation and executive order issued by President Abraham Lincoln on January 1, 1863. It changed the federal legal status of more than 3 million enslaved people in the designated areas of the South from slave to free. As soon as a slave escaped the control of the Confederate government, by running away or through advances of federal troops, the slave became legally free. Eventually it reached and liberated all of the designated slaves. It did not cover slaves in Union areas that were freed by state action (or by the 13th amendment in December 1865). It was issued as a war measure during the American Civil War, directed to all of the areas in rebellion and all segments of the executive branch (including the Army and Navy) of the United States.[2]
Got it?
Hours after a deadly terror attack in Barcelona, President Donald Trump suggested that Islamic terrorists should be executed with bullets soaked in pig’s blood, praising a discredited story of a 20th-century atrocity.
“Study what General Pershing of the United States did to terrorists when caught,” Trump tweeted Thursday afternoon. “There was no more Radical Islamic Terror for 35 years!”
The tweet referenced a false story that Trump told at rallies more than once on the campaign trail. Trump claimed that during the Moro rebellion in the Philippines between 1901 and 1913, U.S. Gen. John Pershing executed Muslim insurgents with bullets dipped in pig’s blood. Trump’s retelling of the myth has changed each time
Time Magazine
But his false claims will continue every single day. He is incapable of saying the truth. The Senate Republicans right now, mostly below the surface with Senator Corker coming out they are very very very nervous about the president. It's not just political he could very well cost them control of both houses of Congress. But he can also institute a danger to the United States of America domestically and in foreign relations.
The Joint Chiefs of Staff individually issued statements that did not directly contradict the president of course because the commander and chief. But if you look at what they said they've contradicted and his claims in that deranged crazy press conference at the Trump Tower you can understand why they made their statements.
Alky, what is your take on the dem "better deal"?
The Six Nations Alliance that President Obama put together to fight Isis in the Middle East was successful. They are also completely out of power in Iraq. They are now limited to attacks like this attack using vehicles and body bombs and that's it.
caliphate I wanted to correct the spelling error.
I will never respond to anything with a question using the word alky. Call me by name I will respond, might even from the idiot from Kansas once in awhile. He's usually milking a cow on his inherited wealth. He's got the IQ of a pig if he's lucky.
OMG what a load of bs. You call many of us names. My god you are a child.
Mr big hat no cattle.
1100 Sq ft, calling that a home is a stretch, hb, micro-home at best. In reality you live in a glorified garage. Average US home is 2679, us census.
On the Democratic Party:
There is nobody else that I have seen emerge that may turn into the next leader we need not yet . I have a couple in mind I'm not gonna mention any names both of them are of minorities one is Hispanic and one is Asian . One is from Texas and one is in California you can probably figure out what I'm talking about if you look around . Pelosi and the others are wonderful people but their time has passed . I'm a member of the generation of baby boomer . We're fading fast I'm going to make a few more years no matter what is going on with my liver all that good stuff.
But the Democrats do have to get their stuff together and put together a coherent pro person pro workingman party policy and very carefully keep diversity part of it. But sometimes that bothers some people and we don't quite know how to handle that. Period. I don't either I'm not gonna say that I understand how to do that. But mainly we got to forward with a way to put the economy on a much more equal basis, and keep it progressing with increasing wages and benefits and universal medical care, that is the bottom line .
The top 1% is going to fight it every inch of the way . And the Donald Trump types will consistently use racism and white superiority to handle them discomfort felt by many with the changes in United States . His use of Birther Bs, succeed unfortunately .
Blogger Roger Amick said...
The Six Nations Alliance that President Obama put together to fight Isis in the Middle East was successful.
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indeed it was...
...for ISIS.
"They are also completely out of power in Iraq."
LOL. no they're not. where the fuck do you come up with this shit? progress is being made against ISIS in iraq but they are hardly out of power.
geezus alky, your entire existence must be one big fucking fantasy.
He committed treason read the Constitution look it up it's not hard to find he committed treason and he should not be celebrated in public. Statues of him in a museum are fine.
I'm changing my mind on this because of all this crap. No, they should not be on the public. They represent the treason of the rebellion in the Civil War.
Again, as usual you miss the whole point of the Civil war. To their mind Lee nor any other Confederate officer committed treason against the United States as defined by the constitution because they were no longer part of the United States.
These states succeeded from the Union and as citizens of these states it would have been treason against those states to levy war against it.
At the time (and to this day) there is no prohibition in the constitution against a state leaving the union.
It was Lincoln who said no. The union is one and inseparable forever and "that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom".
Alky see you almost gave an answer to my qustion. As a life long democrat I don't struggle as you do with a path forward for my party.
1, cut small business taxes to 10 %
2, remove the death tax
3, return the choice of health insurance to the individual
4, eliMinato taxation on retirement withdrawls
5, rdeuce us Corp tax to 10 %
6,two year tax holiday on oversea money repatriated
7, double the personal exemption for all
Not one of these is race based.
QOTD:
"The Bill of Rights is an uncomfortable compromise. It says that we have to put up with people we don’t like. The Democrats, under the influence of the left, are rejecting that idea. But that goes both ways too.
You can have a liberal society or an illiberal one. But you can’t have a society that is selectively liberal when it comes to your bigotry, but illiberal of the bigotry of others, that believes you have the right to say anything you please without consequences, but that no one else does, that you can punch, but not be punched. That’s a totalitarian state. And the only way to realize it is through violence.
Democrats need to take an honest look at the street violence in Seattle, in Portland, in Berkeley and Charlottesville, and decide if this is what they really want. If they don’t, it’s time for them to stop normalizing left-wing extremism. If they do, then they are to blame for the next Dallas or Charlottesville."
--Sultan Knish
At the time (and to this day) there is no prohibition in the constitution against a state leaving the union.
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the dumb fuck lives in california for chrissakes, home to a rather boisterous cal-exit movement.
The moron will probably vote for it and, according to his definition, commit treason.
CA is one of the most expensive places to own a vehicle with car insurance rates among the highest and the cost of gasoline and the endless toll roads.
Rrb, thanks for throwing your bs flag when Alky said ISIS was no longer in Iraq. It happens everytime Alky tries to think for herself.
Liver doctor: In favor of release. Meeting at 10:00, discussion. Will be informed about 12:00. If I can go home.
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