Friday, August 18, 2017

Steve Bannon Out !!!


120 comments:

commie said...

Another great friday for the liar chief. Got another bigot out of the WH, now all we need is for donnie to start acting like a president rather than another loretta type blogger. We shall see, maybe those beautiful statues start coming down.....the haters will start going back into hiding.....GOOD!!!!!!

Commonsense said...

I really think this is bigger news in Washington that it is outside of Washington.

But if it does reduce the drama around the Trump White House then it's probably a good thing.

However, I suspect the media will be picking on something else.

loretta's commie toy.... said...

I guess having the architect of the trump WH being fired is more than a DC story....That is what, the fifth or sixth major player leaving sure says something about the chaos president, which I think is what he wants. Like changing the story to statues which idiots like you jumped on is a perfect demonstration of you not being able to concentrate on what is important....

Anonymous said...




do we have an alky-lanche of copy/paste's scheduled to address this?

commie said...

Isn't the silence deafening that the jewish son in law and daughter have remained so quiet with the torch march and anti jewish chants at the Lee statue that trump said was quiet respect......Sad.......Jared has no balls at all.

commie said...

A state senator is about as important to the big picture as your opinion......

KD said...

I have stood in statuary hall,dc capital. So has so called leaders of the leftist in congress, they called for the removal of them prior to now how many times?

The costumer confidence survey number rocketing up is a far bigger story as is the Millennials starting to buy homes which was not happening during the Lost years.

KD said...

"Consumer Confidence" historic high

commie said...


"Consumer Confidence" historic high


As riots take the streets a step back to jim crow days.....

commie said...



Dear God,......If you want us to impeach Trump, give us a sign. Like, blot out the sun........Anytime in the next week would be fine... ..............Thanks,...Americans

commie said...

"Consumer Confidence" historic high

You lie about everything asshole.....

Consumer confidence rose in the first half of August to its highest level since January due to a more positive outlook for the overall economy as well as more favorable personal financial prospects," Richard Curtin, chief economist for the Surveys of Consumers, said in a statement.

Curtin added a caveat that the incidents in Charlottesville, Virginia, were too recent to assess whether or how much it might "weaken consumers' economic assessments." He said fallout from the Charlottesville violence will "reverse the improvement in economic expectations recorded across all political affiliations in early August."

The consumer sentiment index nearly returned to peak levels recorded earlier in 2017.

Under Obama...

KD said...

Opie how ya doing?

KD said...

I bookmarked your post, you own it.

KD said...

Y/Y August
Lost years august 2016 = 89.8

#MAGA first 6 month Aug 2017 = 97.6

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I hope that the president will finally start thinking outside of his own thoughts and let other people tell him how to be the president instead of just an angry old man. If he gets criticism and he just wants to smack him.

KD said...

Opie I went to you link, ty. It said that this rocket shot in consumer confidence reflected that 50 percent of respondents said their personal fiance have improved recently, the highest since 2000, racing past the lost years.

KD said...

OMG funny, HB said he has a manure intellect, no one tells him what to think.now coast that with his last post here. Ty hb .

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

There you go again. I didn't expect anything more or anything less. I do hope it gets better for a while unless we get lucky enough to to implement the 25th Amendment or impeach him. But I would like to see him actually grow up and be the leader everybody instead of just a small faction. He stated after the election that like the black voters what's the difference it doesn't make any difference it's not going to help if you vote for me or not. He's saying the same thing to anybody that doesn't support him. He doesn't give a damn about the rest of us just those that are going to support him and vote for him and that's it. The president is supposed to be the leader of the whole country he does not do so and that is the problem with Donald J Trump

good old JAMES said...

I PUT THIS ON THE WRONG THREAD SO I'M REPOSTING IT HERE.

A great American patriot named James said...
It is interesting how you in your analysis, Ch, you studiously put all the emphasis on "white supremacists" but never specifically on KKKers and Nazis whom you studiously avoided mentioning.

Interesting too, that you think there is some sort of "normal political script" for dealing with white supermacists, KKKers and Nazis. Most Democrats, Independents, and many Republicans would not look at it that way.

Strange that you do.

Trump is so far out of the bounds of normalcy, it is appalling.

But not to you, obviously.

We shall see how great a price the GOP must pay for trying to excuse the inexcusable.
August 18, 2017 at 3:33 PM
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Encouraged, James said...
Washington Post: “The potential for Bannon to wreak havoc and mischief on the White House from the outside is among the reasons Trump had been skittish about firing his chief strategist. And Bannon himself had used wartime metaphors to signal to friends and confidants that he would continue to pursue his nationalist, populist agenda if he leaves his government perch.”
August 18, 2017 at 3:41 PM
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James said...
What Bannon Does Next

Jonathan Swan: “Steve Bannon’s next moves will be all about the billionaire Mercer family. I’m told Bannon, who visited New York this week, met with Bob Mercer and together they will be a well-funded force on the outside.

“Bannon has felt liberated since it became clear he was being pushed out, according to friends. He’s told associates he has a ‘killing machine’ in Breitbart News, and it’s possible he returns to lead their editorial operation.

“A source familiar with Breitbart’s operations told me they would go ‘thermonuclear’ against ‘globalists’ that Bannon and his friends believe are ruining the Trump administration, and by extension, America.”

Genuine patriot James said...

Bannon is out and all the far right extremists are boiling with outrage.
Trumps already shrinking base shrinks some more.

Commonsense said...

The president is supposed to be the leader of the whole country he does not do so

Black Unemployment [under Trump] at Lowest Rate in 17 Years

In the months since Donald Trump became America's 45th president, the unemployment rate among black people has hit the lowest number since 2000.

In February, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reported the black unemployment rate at 8.1, but the number dropped to 8.0 in March, 7.9 in April, and 7.5 in May.

During most of Barack Obama's presidency, black unemployment was in double digits, hitting a high mark of 16.8 in March 2010. Between July 2008 (during the financial crisis) and February 2015, the rate remained above 10 percent.

Black unemployment has not been this low since December 2000, when 7.4 percent of African-Americans looking for work were unable to find it.


Yeah, Donald Trump is president for all of the people.

Commonsense said...

I PUT THIS ON THE WRONG THREAD SO I'M REPOSTING IT HERE.

You're still in the wrong thread. Stop spamming.

Anonymous said...



Black Unemployment [under Trump] at Lowest Rate in 17 Years
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un fucking believable. trump is such a racist / nazi / kkk / white supremacist / bigot / prejudiced villain, he's actually putting black america back to work.

no wonder black democrats want to see him assassinated. he's actually making them and their poverty pimp schtick look bad.

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KD said...

James your topic from a different thread, are you for tax reform?

A great American patriot named James said...

good old JAMES said...
I TWICE PUT THIS ON THE WRONG THREAD SO I'M REPOSTING IT HERE.
IT IS VERY APPROPRIATE FOR THIS DISCUSSION.

A great American patriot named James said...
It is interesting how you in your analysis, Ch, you studiously put all the emphasis on "white supremacists" but never specifically on KKKers and Nazis whom you studiously avoided mentioning.

Interesting too, that you think there is some sort of "normal political script" for dealing with white supermacists, KKKers and Nazis. Most Democrats, Independents, and many Republicans would not look at it that way.

Strange that you do.

Trump is so far out of the bounds of normalcy, it is appalling.

But not to you, obviously.

We shall see how great a price the GOP must pay for trying to excuse the inexcusable.
August 18, 2017 at 3:33 PM
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Encouraged, James said...
Washington Post: “The potential for Bannon to wreak havoc and mischief on the White House from the outside is among the reasons Trump had been skittish about firing his chief strategist. And Bannon himself had used wartime metaphors to signal to friends and confidants that he would continue to pursue his nationalist, populist agenda if he leaves his government perch.”
August 18, 2017 at 3:41 PM
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James said...
What Bannon Does Next

Jonathan Swan: “Steve Bannon’s next moves will be all about the billionaire Mercer family. I’m told Bannon, who visited New York this week, met with Bob Mercer and together they will be a well-funded force on the outside.

“Bannon has felt liberated since it became clear he was being pushed out, according to friends. He’s told associates he has a ‘killing machine’ in Breitbart News, and it’s possible he returns to lead their editorial operation.

“A source familiar with Breitbart’s operations told me they would go ‘thermonuclear’ against ‘globalists’ that Bannon and his friends believe are ruining the Trump administration, and by extension, America.”
August 18, 2017 at 3:50 PM

Genuine patriot James said...
Bannon is out and all the far right extremists are boiling with outrage.
Trumps already shrinking base shrinks some more.
August 18, 2017 at 3:52 P

KD said...

RRB, that MO democrat that stated she wanted the President assassinated said today she is not going to resign. Resign my ass arrest her. Enforce the freaking rule of law.

amused, Patriot James said...

actually, I was on the right thread the second time. :-)

KD said...

CS, great post on Black America working #MAGA. Home ownership during the Lost years plummeted. I hope the black worker with new jobs buy homes reigniting their American Dream.

Wondering, James said...

Are we going to allow only white supremacists, KKKers, and Nazis to call for political assassinations?

KD said...

No one has allowed it,but your girl in MO called for the assassination of this President. She is an elected official sworn to uphold the US Constitution.

KD said...

Speaking of political assassination, your boy on the baseball field did your team proud.

commie said...

KD said...
Y/Y August
Lost years august 2016 = 89.8

Sure asswipe....check out what busch left obama....it was in the mid 30's and he left trump high 80's. IOW by your definition, the lost years were under Busch.... Do you work at being so fucking stupid or is it genetic....LOLL LOLOL

commie said...

She is an elected official sworn to uphold the US Constitution.


And an asshole as big as you.....Idiot

KD said...

The lost years a owned by your boy.

So many people where financially damaged .

Black home ownership during the Lost years hit 1968 levels, now that is on your team. Be proud.

KD said...

The lost years a owned by your boy.

So many people where financially damaged .

Black home ownership during the Lost years hit 1968 levels, now that is on your team. Be proud.

Commonsense said...

Wondering, James said...
Are we going to allow only white supremacists, KKKers, and Nazis to call for political assassinations?


James couldn't call out one of his own. I knew it.

The hypocrite has no moral authority.

Commonsense said...

Since James is so in love with polls:

Today's Axios / Survey Monkey poll:
Watching media coverage, you'd think Trump is nearly alone in believing "both sides" share fault for the Charlottesville violence. Turns out, most Republicans have his back.

SurveyMonkey findings, previewed first for Axios readers, for an online poll yesterday with 2,181 respondents:

When presented with a verbatim quote from President Trump on Tuesday ("You had a group on one side that was bad, and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent"), more disagree (53%) than agree (43%).

Republicans agreed, 87%-11%. Democrats disagreed, 83%-15%. Independents disagreed, 59%-39%.

Far more blame "the far right groups" for Charlottesville (46%) than "the counter-protesters" (9%), but a remarkable 40% concur with Trump's assertion that both were equally responsible.

"Beneath the surface, we see the same partisan division: Two-thirds of Democrats (66%) blame the far-right groups rather than the counter-protesters (6%), while Republicans overwhelmingly blame both sides equally (64%). About the same proportion of Republicans blame the far-right groups (18%) as the counter-protestors (17%)."


Oh, and for the math challenge, "Those that blame the Antifa (9%) and those who blame both sides (40%) adds up to 49%. That;s nearly a majority of respondents that either agree with Trump or think the Antifa is solely responsible.

And this from an internet poll where the sampling is traditionally skewed towards Democrats and liberals.

commie said...

KD said...
The lost years a owned by your boy.

Yer an asshole.....per your definition, W completely ruined consumer confidence with his recession and all those lost years. Obama more than doubled the index....let me know when your asshole in chief does the same. IF YOU WANT LOST.....look at trumps deer in the headlight expression.... t

commie said...

for an online poll yesterday with 2,181 respondents:

An online poll is about as credible as anthony watts......

good, decent, democracy minded James said...

I was of course being sarcastic. But if we are going to talk about moral authority, we might remember KD's calling the President a black monkey in the White House and his wife a cheap Chicago whore, white supremacist sentiments you never condemned from your high moral perch.

James said...

Thanks for that poll. Trump is in trouble with Dems, Indes and too many Repubs.

commie said...

That;s nearly a majority of respondents that either agree with Trump or think the Antifa is solely responsible.


And hillary had a majority of the votes....How'd that turn out???????

Commonsense said...

Interesting thing about Democrats, nearly 33% believe either the Antifa (6%) or both sides were to blame (27%) that's a pretty healthy minority of pro-Trump Democrats.

More likely however they are starting to get uncomfortable with the violent methods of the Antifa.

Unlike you.

KD said...

Antifa are communist perfect fit with today's liberal.

KD said...

Lost years have so few blacks ready for retirement. Lack of home ownership that dropped to 1968 levels .

wphamilton said...

Yay. Who's left standing now, the nepotism crowd and the Generals?

Trump doesn't need any advisers anyway, really. He doesn't need to read things or know facts, he just goes with his gut feeling. Or so he tells us.

KD said...

Wp, are u planning to be pissed of for the next 7.5 years?

wphamilton said...

Only if Trump keeps being boringly stupid, instead of the hilarious slapstick that was promising early on. Won't be for 2 terms though. Maybe not even one. Getting at odds with Republican senators, his own top advisers declaring war on half of his staff, he won't take much more humiliating defeats before throwing in the towel. Or getting run out of town on a rail by Congress.

I'll probably just keep pointing out the obvious truths though, pissing people like you off/

KD said...

I hope and your ilk continue to let him control you. Really.

My side won, the victory was the defeat of the so called clinton machine.

KD said...

President Pence would take this nation future right and in the promotion of Vice President Ryan and we go future right.

Sounds even better.

KD said...

Average age of Senate dem is 73 average age for Republican 56.

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Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I find it interesting that the first thing that Steve Bannon did, is that he went after president 45. This interview shows beyond a doubt that he is not going to be a friend of number 45 . Yes I'm going to cut and paste some of it but it's relevant so take a look at it and then I'll make a conclusion on it later on.


The bottom line is this is just too much fun.

The Weekly Standard http://www.weeklystandard.com/bannon-the-trump-presidency-that-we-fought-for-and-won-is-over./article/2009355


White House strategist Steve Bannon can be seen through the window of Marine One after it landed with he and President Donald Trump aboard on the South Lawn of the White House in Washington, DC in April 2017. Photo credit: Ron Sachs, Pool/Getty Images.

With the departure from the White House of strategist Stephen K. Bannon, who helped shape the so-called nationalist-populist program embraced by Donald Trump in his unlikely path to election, a new phase of the Trump presidency begins. Given Trump’s nature, what comes next will hardly be conventional, but it may well be less willfully disruptive—which, to Bannon, had been the point of winning the White House.

“The Trump presidency that we fought for, and won, is over,” Bannon said Friday, shortly after confirming his departure. “We still have a huge movement, and we will make something of this Trump presidency. But that presidency is over. It’ll be something else. And there’ll be all kinds of fights, and there’ll be good days and bad days, but that presidency is over.”

Bannon says that he will return to the helm of Breitbart, the rambunctious right-wing media enterprise he ran until joining the Trump campaign as chief executive last August. At the time, the campaign was at its nadir, and Trump was trailing Hillary Clinton in the polls by double digits.

Although his influence with the president waxed and waned, Bannon’s standing in the Trump circle was always precarious. Among the senior advisers competing with Bannon in trying to shape Trump’s agenda, and his tone, were the president’s daughter, Ivanka, and son-in-law, Jared. Bannon pointedly voiced criticism of those in the president’s sphere whom he considered to be globalists, or liberals (or both), and the president himself plainly bristled over the early attention that Bannon got from the press (including a Time magazine cover, which is said to have particularly irked Trump).

Bannon says that his departure was voluntary, and that he’d planned it to coincide with the one-year anniversary of his joining the Trump campaign as chief executive, on August 14, 2016.

“On August 7th , I talked to [Chief of Staff John] Kelly and to the President, and I told them that my resignation would be effective the following Monday, on the 14th,” he said. “I’d always planned on spending one year. General Kelly has brought in a great new system, but I said it would be best. I want to get back to Breitbart.”

Bannon says that with the tumult in Charlottesville last weekend, and the political fallout since, Trump, Kelly, and he agreed to delay Bannon’s departure, but that he and Kelly agreed late this week that now was the time for Bannon to leave.

Bannon may have resigned, but it was clear from the time that Kelly became chief of staff that Bannon’s remaining time in the West Wing was going to be short. Kelly undertook a study of the West Wing’s operating system, and let it be known that he kept hearing about Bannon as a disruptive force and a source of leaks aimed at undermining his rivals. One of those, with whom Kelly is deeply in sympathy, is National Security Adviser H. R. McMaster, who clashed forcefully with Bannon over such policies as strategy for the war in Afghanistan.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Ghostwriter for the book for Donald Trump says that there is no way he is going to complete his term. You'll be too frustrated and unable to continue because the frustration will drive him over the "wall" that will never be completed. No way is Mexico going to pay for it.

“I surely believe that at some point over the next period of time, he’s going to have to figure out a way to resign,” Schwartz said. “The reason he’s going to do that, as opposed to go through what could be an impeachment process or a continuing humiliation, is that he wants to figure out a way, as he has done all his career, to turn a loss into a victory. So he will declare victory when he leaves.”
http://pix11.com/2017/08/18/ghostwriter-for-trumps-art-of-the-deal-says-president-will-resign/

I will expand upon my thoughts tomorrow I have to get some sleep and my recovery continues well. No matter how bad it bothers a racist bastard.

The ghostwriter has been outspoken and his opposition and feels guilty about writing the book in the first place. just like a majority of Republicans in Washington DC feel guilty about supporting Trump in the first place.

Es hora de molestarse con un ignorante, más bien estúpido, enemigo de los hispanos en los Estados Unidos de América. Su vida miserable en un cubículo, lo lleva a consumir grandes cantidades de cerveza barata.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Six votes

A majority vote in the house of representatives, can pass an articles of impeachment.

The Senate must have a 2/3 majority to convict.

Hmmm

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
Six votes

A majority vote in the house of representatives, can pass an articles of impeachment.

The Senate must have a 2/3 majority to convict.

Hmmm
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well go for it alky.

all you're lacking is a high crime and/or misdemeanor. get yourself one of those and you're on your way.

but remember, even if you succeed, hillary will never be our president.



Anonymous said...

I will expand upon my thoughts tomorrow I have to get some sleep and my recovery continues well. No matter how bad it bothers a racist bastard.
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it doesn't bother me a bit, alky. but you sure seem obsessed with my opinion on the topic.

i guess me living in your head rent free will do that to ya.

heh.

sleep tight alky.



commie said...

KD said...
Antifa are communist perfect fit with today's liberal.

Idiot Antifa abhors nazi's, kkk and alt right.....IOW's, they are on the correct side of the equation while you support all those groups with your tacit support of the idiot in chief..... Do you sleep in a hood wrapped in a nazi blanket ?????

Anonymous said...

This interview shows beyond a doubt that he is not going to be a friend of number 45 .
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drunken imbecile,

bannon is on the record as going to war on behalf of, and not against, trump.

i'm not surprised that you would take the word of william kristol's rag seeing as he's just about the most vocal and virulent never trumper on the planet.

Commonsense said...

Idiot Antifa abhors nazi's,

Nope the Antifa arbors anyone who doesn't sign on to their narrow leftist agenda.

I find it interesting you would support their violent methods.

As for me, if it wasn't for the fact that innocent people get hurt, I would be just as happy if both groups beat each other's brains out.

commie said...


Nope the Antifa arbors anyone who doesn't sign on to their narrow leftist agenda

Since you are such an expert, I can only presume you are a member....well good for you. Idiot.

commie said...

Blogger rrb said...
This interview shows beyond a doubt that he is not going to be a friend of number 45 .

Could it be bannon becomes the catalyst of dividing the trump base? Separating the idiots from the real idiots....like you.

KD said...

I am against all hate groups.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This is why, I think you got conned.

Bannon has a neo-isolationist economic philosophy. He and (45) never said that directly, because corporate America wouldn't have been there.

We adopted a free trade philosophy, since Saint Ronald Reagan was elected in 1980.

Even worse is they want a segregated nation. That was obvious with his adoption of the crazy birther and racist beliefs.

KD said...

Antifa is an international communist group . I read their we site and Facebook and other writing by them.
They are for the following;
Social justice , so is Lizbo Warren
They are for $15 min wage ,so is Polo
They are anticipated , so is Obimbo the low class chip
They are pro globalism thru govermeer control , so is Schummer
The list reads like the manifesto of the current left Democratic party.

KD said...

If alky talks on matters of economics you know the adverse is true.

Anonymous said...



well alky, the facts exist to disprove each of your assertions.

bannon desires a nationalist economic policy. not "neo-isolationist" whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean. must be a mother jones-ism.

and as for segregation, it's minorities, blacks in particular, that are self-segregating on college campuses across the nation. it's the proto fascists of antifa who are rioting to squelch free speech, fracturing skulls with bike locks and burning both public and private property.

and give credit where credit is due - it was hillary clinton who first floated the birther issue. this is documented fact. i must say, i never understood the charge of racism surrounding it though. what's racist about questioning the country of a person's birth? i mean, i can understand imbeciles who find racism everywhere calling it racist, but rational folks just can't seem to get all the way there.

now then, go take your "vitamins" before you collapse into a puddle of incoherence again.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

A mathematical correct.

Should the house indicted(45) for impeachment, requiring a simple majority, and send it to the Senate for trial, it would require a 2/3 majority. As of today, it would require 66 votes. The Democrats would vote in a block. They have 47 seats. To convict and remove from office, it would require 66 votes if all members were present. It would take 18 Republicans in favor of #impeachment at this point in time.

It would require that the house majority would be Democratic. Or, if the Republicans who are true Americans, come to see how dangerous (45) is.

Anonymous said...

Antifa is an international communist group
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antifa seems to be pining for a modern civil war, using nazi's as their strawman. they had better be careful what they wish for though, since there are a lot of barely-interested people who have been watching from the sidelines who will, at some point, grow sick of their shit. and when that happens that's when things will get really interesting really quick.

Anonymous said...

It would require that the house majority would be Democratic. Or, if the Republicans who are true Americans, come to see how dangerous (45) is.
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it also requires a high crime and/or misdemeanor, dumbass.

let me know when you nail down THAT requirement.

oh and alky... butthurt over hillary's EPIC DEFEAT does not qualify.

KD said...

If alky talks on matters of economics you know the adverse is true.

KD said...

RRB, the more I read about antifa they mirror BLM and Occupy Wallstreet and #resist . Same

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

False
"Hillary Clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the birther controversy."
— Donald Trump on Friday, September 16th, 2016 in a speech
Fact-checking Donald Trump's claim Hillary Clinton started Obama birther


Fact-checking Donald Trump's claim Hillary Clinton started Obama birther movement.


00:0000:56
This morning Donald Trump, during a speech at the new Trump International Hotel in Washington, claimed once more that Hillary Clinton started the Obama birther movement. False.
Donald Trump repeated his debunked claim that Hillary Clinton started the rumors questioning whether President Barack Obama was born in the United States.

"Hillary Clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the birther controversy," Trump said in a 30-minute press conference Sept. 16, 2016. "I finished it."

The birther issue reemerged when the Washington Post asked Trump a day earlier if he believes Obama was born in the United States. He refused to answer.

This prompted a flurry of incredulity over his revitalization of the "birther" issue, which in turn prompted his campaign to answer the question for him and also accuse Clinton of starting it in the first place.

Trump has repeatedly claimed that Clinton began the whole issue in the first place. Trump said "Hillary is a birther" in February 2015 at CPAC, tweeted that "she was all in" in September 2015, and said "she brought it up years before it was brought up by me" on CNN in May 2016. The morning of his press conference, Trump brought it up again on Fox

There is no evidence that Clinton or her 2008 campaign ever floated the theory. While Clinton supporters circulated the allegations the last time she ran for president, they had no ties to either the candidate or her staff.

A damning memo?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...


The Sept. 15 Trump campaign statement linked to a 2007 strategy memo published in the Atlantic from former Clinton aide Mark Penn that advises pointing out Obama’s "lack of American roots."

While Penn suggests Clinton "own ‘American’ in our programs," that’s not the same thing as suggesting Clinton question Obama’s citizenship or birthplace. The memo never advises that.

It also explicitly states, "We are never going to say anything about his background."

Furthermore, as the Atlantic and Politico reported in 2008, neither Clinton nor her campaign acted on Penn’s advice.

The other piece of "evidence" linking Clinton to birtherism are emails circulated by supporters of Clinton during the last days of the 2008 Democratic primary after Clinton suspended her campaign.

According to a Telegraph article, Clinton supporters circulated the "birther" theory in an email as early as April 2008.

"Barack Obama’s mother was living in Kenya with his Arab-African father late in her pregnancy," the email said, according to the Telegraph. "She was not allowed to travel by plane then, so Barack Obama was born there and his mother then took him to Hawaii to register his birth."

The allegations gained momentum that month. Clinton conceded the race on June 7, and three days later a website called Pumaparty.com (an acroynom for Party Unity My A--) encouraged Clinton backers to support Republican nominee Sen. John McCain.

The website promoted the theory with an email that read, "Obama May Be Illegal to Be Elected President," as Daily Beast editor John Avlon has documented.

According to Avlon, Linda Starr, a Clinton volunteer in Texas, was key to spreading the rumor. She connected with with Philip Berger, an attorney and Clinton supporter, who sued to block Obama’s nomination. The suit was thrown out.

But this is not the same thing as Clinton or her campaign promoting the theory. There is no evidence that they ever have done so. Clinton has dismissed the allegation when Trump made his accusation last September in an interview with CNN’s Don Lemon.

"That is — no. That is so ludicrous, Don. You know, honestly, I just believe that, first of all, it’s totally untrue, and secondly, you know, the president and I have never had any kind of confrontation like that," Clinton said. "You know, I have been blamed for nearly everything, that was a new one to me."

KD said...

RRB, the more I read about antifa they mirror BLM and Occupy Wallstreet and #resist . Same

commie said...

Blogger KD said...
RRB, the more I read about antifa they mirror BLM

You can read? I doubt it. LOL At least they put the nazi's and KKK in their proper place whlle you embrace a hating philosophy like your false idol, the donnie....who thinks some nazi's are good people. BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/sep/16/donald-trump/fact-checking-donald-trumps-claim-hillary-clinton-/

Anonymous said...

RRB, the more I read about antifa they mirror BLM and Occupy Wallstreet and #resist . Same
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they most certainly do. their moniker belies their purpose. they are radical violent fascists through and through. they're domestic terrorist scum, and if they keep up their bullshit, it won't be imaginary nazi's they'll have to worry about. it'll be mainstream americans who will have grown so tired of their nonsense they'll decide to stomp them into a puddle and walk it dry.

KD said...

The new darlings of the Democratics anti-capitalist antifa cause damage in Seattle . They are bussed in to riot.

commie said...

Blogger rrb said...
Antifa is an international communist group

I bet that would be news to them......LOL!!! Idiot


What is Antifa?
By Jessica Suerth, CNN
Updated 12:21 PM ET, Thu August 17, 2017
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A controversial protest group, known as Antifa, clashed with right-wingers in Charlottesville
Some members employ radical or militant tactics to get their message across

(CNN)After protests in Charlottesville, Virginia, turned violent on Saturday, leaving one person dead and dozens injured, the world is still grappling with what happened, who was involved and why.

Hundreds of white nationalists took to the streets over the weekend to protest the removal of a Gen. Robert E. Lee statue. But members of a controversial opposing group, known as Antifa, also showed up to condemn hate and racism.
Here's a closer look at Antifa protesters, who have become more visible in the past year.
What is Antifa?
Antifa is short for anti-fascists. The term is used to define a broad group of people whose political beliefs lean toward the left -- often the far left -- but do not conform with the Democratic Party platform. The group doesn't have an official leader or headquarters, although groups in certain states hold regular meetings.

Antifa positions can be hard to define, but many members support oppressed populations and protest the amassing of wealth by corporations and elites. Some employ radical or militant tactics to get their message across.

Anonymous said...



politifact, alky?

LOL.

good one.

fact: clinton surrogates in the clinton campaign started the birther issue. you go play semantics with politifact. the rest of us will remain quite comfortable with the truth.





Anonymous said...

What is Antifa?
By Jessica Suerth, CNN
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CNN???


your howler of the day, folks.

commie said...

They are bussed in to riot.

No they aren't.....But it makes good talking points for the mentally challenged fake news whore like you,......

Anonymous said...



hey alky,

how are you coming on those articles of impeachment? got yourself a high crime or misdemeanor yet? you do realize you're going to need one of those, right?



commie said...

Blogger rrb said...
What is Antifa?
By Jessica Suerth, CNN

I sure don't see anything but your ad hominem and not a single fact to refute what they said. Typical of mentally disabled trump whores.

https://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2017/08/economist-explains-11

Try this asshole and learn how to read.....LOL

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

politifact, alky?

LOL.

good one.

Your buddy is Alex Jones. If he's back from Mars.

commie said...

yep....there is open war in the party of lincoln.....

“I don’t have any longer the expectations that Trump even can keep the rest of his promises," Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, told NBC News on Friday after the announcement that the chief strategist would be leaving the administration.



Losing this asshole is gonna hurt big time!!!! What a show this is turning into!!!!

Anonymous said...



look fatty, you can put up all the links you can find romanticizing antifa, but that will not change the fact that they are exactly what they profess to rail against -

they're violent fascists and domestic terrorists. period. they're scum deserving of an epic beat down. and sooner or later they'll get one.

commie said...


look fatty, you can put up all the links you can find romanticizing

And all you post is your alt right talking points....I don't see anyone romanticizing them, only assholes like you who think some nazi's are good. There is nothing in either links that romanticize them... Dayum you are dumber than my cat.....LOL Maybe you can link us up with your international communist claim.....another outright lie from the rat of the north.....idiot

Anonymous said...

I don't see anyone romanticizing them
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i see your beloved CNN doing exactly that:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/unmasking-antifa-anti-fascists-hard-left/index.html


and i'm not at all surprised that you have a cat.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I will dispense for now from discussion of the moral character of the president's Charlottesville statements. Whether he intended to or not, what he communicated caused racists to rejoice, minorities to weep, and the vast heart of America to mourn. His apologists strain to explain that he didn't mean what we heard. But what we heard is now the reality, and unless it is addressed by the president as such, with unprecedented candor and strength, there may commence an unraveling of our national fabric.The leaders of our branches of military service have spoken immediately and forcefully, repudiating the implications of the president's words. Why? In part because the morale and commitment of our forces--made up and sustained by men and women of all races--could be in the balance. Our allies around the world are stunned and our enemies celebrate; America's ability to help secure a peaceful and prosperous world is diminished. And who would want to come to the aid of a country they perceive as racist if ever the need were to arise, as it did after 9/11?In homes across the nation, children are asking their parents what this means. Jews, blacks, Hispanics, Muslims are as much a part of America as whites and Protestants. But today they wonder. Where might this lead? To bitterness and tears, or perhaps to anger and violence?The potential consequences are severe in the extreme. Accordingly, the president must take remedial action in the extreme. He should address the American people, acknowledge that he was wrong, apologize. State forcefully and unequivocally that racists are 100% to blame for the murder and violence in Charlottesville. Testify that there is no conceivable comparison or moral equivalency between the Nazis--who brutally murdered millions of Jews and who hundreds of thousands of Americans gave their lives to defeat--and the counter-protestors who were outraged to see fools parading the Nazi flag, Nazi armband and Nazi salute. And once and for all, he must definitively repudiate the support of David Duke and his ilk and call for every American to banish racists and haters from any and every association.This is a defining moment for President Trump. But much more than that, it is a moment that will define America in the hearts of our children. They are watching, our soldiers are watching, the world is watching. Mr. President, act now for the good of the country.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Mitt Romney

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

misdemeanor

The definition of misdemeanor is pretty wide open. Bill Clinton was impeached for basically lying about a b****** under oath. His subtle endorsement of the radical right neo-nazis and the white supremacist could constitute a misdemeanor according to whatever the US Congress wants to do with it. It could not be taken to the courts it is determined only by the house and representatives and the Senate by their own rules. It is rare to being used in history as we all know twice and neither one of them was convinced convicted. But in this case it may be an incentive like with Richard Nixon when McConnell and a couple of the others walking into his office and see Mr 45 you either resign or we will impeach and remove you. His deep division of the country and we still don't know what during thing about the Russian involvement that is still going on so let's before we say this is all over you're making an exception of course you always give him a break.

commie said...

i see your beloved CNN doing exactly that:

Only a nazi loving asshole lie you would call that romanticizing.....Got 2 cats which are both smarter than you.....LOL

But you get nice try for that. Bigotry like yours is a dime a dozen these days, so you really aren't that special in your world....LOL

amused, James said...

In an interview Friday, after news broke that he had left his role in the White House, Bannon told The Weekly Standard that "The Trump presidency that we fought for, and won, is over." 

"We still have a huge movement, and we will make something of this Trump presidency. But that presidency is over. It'll be something else. And there'll be all kinds of fights, and there'll be good days and bad days, but that presidency is over,” Bannon said.

wphamilton said...

Hillary wasn't the literal first person to take up the Birther movement, but her campaign fanned the ember into full flame. Trump is more or less right about that one. There would have been no "birther" nonsense beyond the typical paranoid delusional groups that believe anything, had it not been in Hillarie's political interest. That's not to say that Trump wasn't a card-carrying member of that tinfoil hat group ...

James said...

Trump stupidly kept playing and kept playing that card long past the time he should have. And that is true of so much that he does.

commie said...

but her campaign fanned the ember into full flame.

How was that WP....it is a real question and I am not looking for a fight....

A great American patriot named James said...

Trump More Isolated Than Ever

Olivia Nuzzi: “What happens inside of the Trump White House now is not yet as clear as what will happen outside of it. In just a few weeks, Trump has isolated himself by purging his inner circle of figureheads of the establishment and the nationalist right. What’s left are his family members, some Republicans, and a curiously substantial number of Democrats.

“The president is prone to making the following observation: ‘I’m the fucking president.’ He believes his power is total, and that it will exist even if everyone around him ceases to. But those close to him recognize that the Republican National Committee still has the ability to exert influence among conservatives, and fear what humiliated RNC alums Sean Spicer and Reince Priebus could do. And now on the other flank, there is anxiety about how Breitbart and the alt-right more broadly will react to the latest news.”

David Von Drehle: “He certainly doesn’t look happy in the job. In his previous life, Trump met whomever he wanted to meet and said whatever he wanted to say. But like all presidents, he finds himself ever more isolated, and his displeasure shows on his face. The loneliness of the job — which so many of his predecessors have ruefully reported — is wearing on him.”

POOR, POOR DONALD. IT AIN'T THE FUN HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE. HE WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS A LOSER.

wphamilton said...

"The definition of misdemeanor is pretty wide open." yep, high crimes and misdemeanor means whatever Congress wants it to mean. It is very dangerous for an immensely unpopular President to alienate his own party in Congress especially if he begins to appear to be on the verge of causing violent domestic strife, contention among our allies, and provocations into war.

Bloomberg said...

Thirty weeks into his presidency, President Donald Trump has made clear that he’s unwilling or unable to abandon a management approach that pits staff against one another, openly antagonizes outside allies, and leaves little room for the painstaking work of governance.

LOSER. EPIC FAIL.

Anonymous said...

Mitt Romney
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i think it's cute that every once in a while mitt will emerge to remind us how he lost such a winnable election.

wphamilton said...

When asked about it, Hillary didn't put it down but suggested it should be looked into. That's all her echo chamber of trolls needed to run with it. You cannot deny that it became an issue in that primary contest.

Combine that with Mark Penn's strategy exploiting Obama's background as other than a mainstream American.

wphamilton said...

Sidney Blumenthal if you want a name.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I have a question for this group of so-called nonpartisan intelligent people like Kansas dumb s*** sorry but I just couldn't resist it..

is the departure of Bannon from the White House going to be better or worse'??

Anonymous said...

His subtle endorsement of the radical right neo-nazis and the white supremacist could constitute a misdemeanor according to whatever the US Congress wants to do with it.
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now there's a winning strategery -

impeaching a president over his use of his first amendment right.


and it wasn't an endorsement, subtle or otherwise.

one must be an intellectually dishonest asshole to make such a claim.

trump said, and i quote:

""We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides."

just because the media and the left seized that quote and immediately twisted it into false equivalence doesn't make it true.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

It is apparent that Trump really does not understand that he needs the support an unqualified support from the Republicans in the Congress. But he is incapable of that because he is defensive from the start he doesn't think about it he doesn't even consider that perhaps the other side might have a point because he believes Beyond any doubt that everything he believes is exactly right and the absolute truth. Some people use the modern open media successfully his use of Twitter is Twitter's and his Tweets in his angry impulsive tweets have made it very much more difficult for him to be effective at all. At this point of time he is not going to get any one of his single pieces of agenda through the Congress. They may do the infrastructure but it is going to be the way they want to do it not necessarily where he has a damn thing to say about it. And now with the departure of the AFL-CIO that for me anyhow makes it more troubling because without prevailing wage wages or unionization sometimes the highly skilled construction trades don't get paid as well as they should. There are some there is one person here who believes that construction workers just simple bang bang bang hit the nail on the wall and is all done. It is far far from than that. My 17 years as an estimator where I had to work with every trade in the detail work with the engineers the designers the hospital the doctors and everybody else. And the people in the field I from I-25 years there if you're good at it it is not simple just drive it with a nail hammer and a nail it's not like that at all. I would take rrb and put them right now with a tool belt and see how far he would go before he be screaming in pain because he hurt himself because he doesn't know what the hell he's doing period 6 months from now I will be physically able to do that and it would be a lot of fun to do that he wouldn't accept it of course not he's too cowardly for that. Sorry about the grammatical mistakes but I think too much understood I'm not going to sit and type this all up and yes I am home.

Anonymous said...


personally i was always much more interested in 0linsky's college transcripts and affirmative action admissions records.

Anonymous said...

I would take rrb and put them right now with a tool belt
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well alky, you're in luck. i own a tool belt, it's the same one i've had for about 25 years, it's well worn having been used in hundreds of hours of building and remodeling projects, and i intend to pass it down to my son when i reach the point of not wanting to put it on any more.

most of the big projects around here of late - roofing, siding, etc., i give to a good friend who's a general contractor. every time he comes here to do a job he jokes -

"i could ride my fucking bike to work on your home since you own as many tools as i do."

so yeah, once again you make an incorrect assumption and it makes you look like an asshole.



KD said...

Alky the departure of bannon is nutral.
If you had any business sense you would know everyone is expendable.

KD said...

Alky ism " Isis is out of Iraq"

KD said...

Rrb, alky is a simpleton. My wife owns her own toolbelt as go I. I own a fully fuctional wood shop including a planner and two lathes,one metal for the ranch and the other is for wood. My wife and I built our current home (3250 sq feet,excluded is our oversized attached garage). When we bought his 65 acres to make it "the home place" it was unencumbered. We built with family and friends a tractor barn with attached tool/Machine shop . Built a loafing barn for cattle and storing dummy blocks. The wife designed and ran herd over the building of it and later a feed storage shed and chicken barn it is about 1125 sq feet. I have assisted many fellow ranchers/farmers with their structure construction.

COMMIE said...

I own a fully functional wood shop including a planner and two lathes,one metal for the ranch and the other is


You should call someone who gives a shit.....idiot....BTW, you didn't buy a single thing, it was handed to you as a legacy.....Your wife has as much talent as a wood chuck....DAYUM.

commie said...

in 0linsky's college transcripts and affirmative action admissions records.

And we all would love to see trumps tax returns he promised to release....Don't forget asshole, obama left office in january.....

commie said...

Anonymous wphamilton said...
Sidney Blumenthal if you want a name.

Thanx WP. My recollection is no where as sharp as yours and other than Penn, who is a jag off...I really don't remember her campaign pushing it. My recollection is Penn wrote a memo about obama's foreign values. He never alluded to him being foreign born.....Just my cut and what is left of my memory....

Myballs seeing America become great again said...

I don't much care about bannon leaving. Miller is the one i want to stay.

KD said...

"We would all love to see President Trump's tax returns" opie

I don't care, he is a self made billionaire, in part hillary lost bigly because chasing down that rabbit hole.

Balls, I hope kohn, continues his good work.

KD said...

Gary Cohn .... or have be the new Fed Chairman.

commie said...

I don't care, he is a self made billionaire

Liar.....he inherited his stakes, just like you... He also lied, cheated and screwed his way to great wealth by using every loop hole and not paying workers for their labors....Toss in his discriminatory ways he rented his properties that resulted in federal action against him .Yeah, asshole he is a real prince that you worship and others see the asshole he is......And BTW.....I don't care if your wife did trump, he sure wouldn't hurt her...LOL

commie said...

Miller is the one i want to stay.


You mean the hitler youth??????