Saturday, November 4, 2017

Some fun facts on the Manafort Indictment

Let's start with the reality. While the first two charges are conspiracy to commit fraud against the United States, and Conspiracy to commit money laundering... the entire indictment pretty much falls under the broader umbrella of failing to register the proper paperwork as a foreign agent.

We got em on spitting on the sidewalk, conspiracy to commit littering, 
defamation of public concrete, lewd and lascivious use of saliva...

To put it bluntly, had the proper paperwork been filled out, Manafort would not be charged with conspiracy to commit fraud against the United States, nor would he be charged with conspiracy to launder money. Counts one and two both rely almost entirely on the Manafort paperwork problem, in order to justify the much more dramatic charges.

So what do we know about the horrific crimes that our crack Investigative team of 17 agents have come up with?
  • Over 60% of those who qualify as foreign agents do not properly fill out the necessary paperwork within a timely matter - as listed in Count 1 and counts 11-12 of the indictment.
  • Over 50% of those who qualify as foreign agents do not properly fill out the proper ongoing reports within a timely manner - as listed in Count 1 and Counts 3-10 of the indictment. 
  • The Podesta group mentioned in the indictment also had not filled out the proper paperwork, but was allowed to do so retroactively (in August of 2017). 
  • Only six people have ever been prosecuted for a failure to properly fill out their foreign agent forms. 
  • Only one person has ever been convicted of this particular offense. He was sentenced to 1 year in prison. 

So what we have here is a 31 page indictment that encompasses years and years worth of felony charges, all revolving around an 80 year old law that has only seen one person convicted and that person was sentenced to one year of jail time.

Of course, what it really means is that Donald Trump must have colluded with Russia.

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Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Funny thing yesterday, a Facebook post had a quiz on the state capitol in 27 states.

I got 100%.

Geek was me.

Anonymous said...

British vs. US Colonials.

Roger knows nothing of History.

Anonymous said...

Not 57 states?

Anonymous said...

The Home of kneeling in protest of the US Flag, US military and Law Enforcement , SF 49's kept the dream alive of a perfect season losing again. Now 0-9 .

Let's go Dodger.

commie said...

So Dennis, how exactly did "Roger ate" my lunch?

EVERYTHING HE POSTED ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION and his cut on what defines a militia, which you constantly ignore....Sorry, menstral...that is the bottom line....militia does not mean today's public, since you are a strict constructionist, you will never see the truth and error of your ways.....thanx for again showing how little you know and how little you are willing to change. or actually discuss...

Anonymous said...

There is no way one of those right wing militia groups would be able to take on the the armed forces of the United States
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you're assuming they'd be on opposing sides.

trump received an air force welcome the other day 0linsky could only dream of.

Anonymous said...




btw, carlos danger becomes bubba's bitch today.

heh.

commie said...

you're assuming they'd be on opposing sides.

Wouldn't that be true for just about any insurrection??? If the military leads, your .280 is about as useless as loretta's tits.....

commie said...

KD drunk again can't spell....

breakfast borritoes,

His idiocy is terminal....LOLOLOL

Commonsense said...

There is no way one of those right wing militia groups would be able to take on the the armed forces of the United States.

Need I remind you that the Viet Cong took on those same armed forces and ultimately won.

Need I remind you that a ban of American militia fought against the greatest empire in the history of the world and won their independence.

Armed insurgencies are the most difficult wars to fight.

Never say never. The only reason right wing militias would fail today is that they don't have widespread popular support.

That would not be true if the government became tyrannical like for instance;

Trying to use the 25th amendment to overthrow the duly elected president of the United States.

commie said...

Need I remind you that the Viet Cong took on those same armed forces and ultimately won.

Need I remind you that that is an abjectly stupid comparison..... Are you saying you are as tough as the Viet Cong and have the back up of Russian weapons behind you??? Please, you insulting comparison is as relevant as you claiming the Saudi's left oil in the ground....Idiot...

Trying to use the 25th amendment to overthrow the duly elected president of the United States.

Would be the smartest thing we could do......He is as retarded as you are menstral....

Commonsense said...

EVERYTHING HE POSTED ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION and his cut on what defines a militia,

All he did was add the first part of the amendment without any understanding of what it means.

It that all you got?

Nothing? Figures.

Commonsense said...

Need I remind you that the Viet Cong took on those same armed forces and ultimately won.

Need I remind you that that is an abjectly stupid comparison...


It's nothing of the kind. In fact, it is right on target.

Commonsense said...

Trying to use the 25th amendment to overthrow the duly elected president of the United States.

Would be the smartest thing we could do..


Only if your goal is to trigger an armed insurrection.

COMMIE said...

Only if your goal is to trigger an armed insurrection

DOUBTFUL!!!

commie said...

It's nothing of the kind. In fact, it is right on target.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!

Only to idiots like you......You would be the first to fold up like a cheap suit if someone fired a shot at you.....LOL

caliphate4vr said...

atty and pedo were excoriating the right "for politicizing" a Moslem running over people in NYC.

Cali lies again...nothing new there....LOL at our faithful dolt...again


here ya go fatty

commie said...
chuckles the clown schemer gets the credit for this one.

Two assholes believing what ever trump lies about.....congress passed it the 1990 act unanimously and the senate 81-17 and signed into law by HW Busch....Chuckles and a whole lot of R's enacted the law, unlike your stupid talking point posted by the idiot in chief trying to immediately politicize a tragedy....I don't know who is more reprehensible....you, loretta to the idiot POTUS.....


that makes you the liar

dumbass

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Let's get this comment by Menstra.

Trying to use the 25th amendment to overthrow the duly elected president of the United States.

Would be the smartest thing we could do..

Only if your goal is to trigger an armed insurrection.

He really wants to see the United States and destroy the longest continuing government on earth, to keep Donald Trump as President, even if the members of his own party decide that he is unfit to hold the office of the President.

He's got Trumpism at the final stage. R.I.P.

The Rev. James Boswell said...

As investigators try to determine a motive, they are also probing how the attacker obtained his gun. Kelley had sought a license to carry a gun in Texas but was rejected, Abbott said.
“By all of the facts that we seem to know, he was not supposed to have access to a gun, so how did this happen?” Abbott said in an interview on CNN. “We are in search of answers to these questions.”

The poor fellow was just exercising his constitutional rights as defined by right wingers.

The Rev. James Boswell said...

Joe and Claryce Holcombe lost children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren all at once, a total of eight extended family members, the couple said in a phone interview with The Post.

Their son, Bryan Holcombe, 60, and his wife, Karla Holcombe, 58, were killed. Bryan was associate pastor for the church and walking to preach at the pulpit when he was shot, Joe Holcombe told The Post.

Among the dead was also their granddaughter-in-law, Crystal Holcombe, who was pregnant. She died along with her unborn child and three of her children, Emily, Megan and Greg, according to Joe Holcombe. She had been at church with her husband, John Holcombe, who survived along with two of her other children.

Their grandson, Marc Daniel Holcombe, and his infant daughter, who was about a year old, also died, Joe and Claryce Holcombe said.

Anonymous said...

CS your flying at 30, 000 feet intellectually, where the three butthurt liberals are grounded.

James said...

I'm a fucking loser.

Signed,

Rev James Boswell pedophile

wphamilton said...

I get the impression that people didn't see what my point is, regarding the second amendment.

Much of the judicial interpretations, guaranteeing the rights of arms for citizens relies on vaguely construing militia and the people as being basically synonymous. Those advocating for various controls must draw various distinctions between them, and point to "well regulated."

But if you look at it as written, neither of these viewpoints represent the literal fact, and both are mistaken! Literally, because a well regulated militia is necessary, ALL citizens (the people) have a right to arms. Militia is just a grouping of people, and that group needs to be under some kinds of restraint, otherwise you have warlords, criminal gangs and so on. But the people are not the militia, and the people are, distinctly by the literal reading of this clause, guaranteed the right to bear arms irrespective of their membership in any militia.

So from my perspective, all of the debates on what a militia is, and what regulated means, are literally irrelevant to the questions of how guns owned by citizens may be regulated. It's only the justification - the actual right is unqualified.

Commonsense said...

He really wants to see the United States and destroy the longest continuing government on earth, to keep Donald Trump as President

As usual Roger you got it ass backwards.

I want to maintain the democratic institutions by keeping the duly elected president of the United States in office.

It is you who wish to destroy those institutions by staging a coup to overthrow him simply because you hate him.

It is not up to you, the news media, or other politicians to determine his fitness for office.

It is up to the voters and the voters have spoken.

wphamilton said...

The 25th will never be invoked, unless the President is indisputably found to be mentally incompetent. Which barring a public demonstration of an obvious psychotic break with reality, isn't going to happen.

Trump will be removed by the normal impeachment process if at all, and frankly that's still unlikely. It would require, in my opinion, at least these three things to all happen first. A change in party control of Congress, findings of serious charges (not bullshit political reaches) by the Special Investigation, AND finally a mistake egregious enough to enrage the entire country. The odds of all three things happening are pretty slim. More likely, Trump will continue to act like the opinionated boob that we elected him to be, and everyone expects him to be, will continue to fail to achieve any disastrously effective policy, and we'll just limp along until the next election.

Commonsense said...

So from my perspective, all of the debates on what a militia is, and what regulated means, are literally irrelevant to the questions of how guns owned by citizens may be regulated. It's only the justification - the actual right is unqualified.

I agree with your statement up to a point. I believe militia clause does put an implicit restriction on the type of weapons that can be kept and bared. i.e. the type used commonly by soldiers in a militia.

This eliminates any right to own exotic weapons like howetzers, cannon, or nuclear devices.

wphamilton said...

Inferentially you have a point that the citizens' right extends only to how well a militia might be armed.

However, whoever the militia the militia might oppose would determine what type of weapons would need to be utilized, so I think it might go the other way using that reasoning. Yet at some point we need to use common sense to be grounded in reality: a howitzer is completely useless for a citizen's self defense or to any other conceivable need to be armed, and other exotic weapons even less so. So I have no qualms about limiting the types of weapons, as long as it's reasonably grounded in terms of modern weapons and potential utility. The whole question has greater clarity if we put a wall between the necessity of an "armed militia" and "the people"'s rights.

wphamilton said...

If there is any truth to this, it is very problematic for Trump's situation:

Trump Jr offers to rescind the Magnitsky Act "“Looking ahead, if we come to power, we can return to this issue and think what to do about it,’’ Trump Jr. said"

in return specifically for

"Veselnitskaya also claimed that he wanted “financial documents showing that money that allegedly evaded U.S. taxes had gone to Clinton’s campaign"

provided those proffered documents are linked to Russian intelligence services or proxies, which likely they would be.

Commonsense said...

Right now I wouldn't put much stock in the Steel dossier.

Commonsense said...

CS your flying at 30, 000 feet intellectually, where the three butthurt liberals are grounded.

With the exception of WP. He puts out the most cognizant arguments of the liberals on this board.

And most of the time it's a pleasure to engage him.

Commonsense said...

Not sexy or eye catching but ultimatly it will have more impact on commerce in this country than any other decision.

SCOTUS Being Asked To Settle The Online Sales Tax Question

Anonymous said...

Question for today's liberal. The murdered faithful in the Tax as Church, are they.

A, obama's bitter clingers
B, hillary's Dispicables
C, all of the above

Anonymous said...

Trying to use the 25th amendment to overthrow the duly elected president of the United States.

Would be the smartest thing we could do..

Only if your goal is to trigger an armed insurrection.

He really wants to see the United States and destroy the longest continuing government on earth, to keep Donald Trump as President, even if the members of his own party decide that he is unfit to hold the office of the President.
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well GO for it, alky.

for chrissakes, you've been waving around the 25th amendment for a fucking YEAR. talk is cheap, drunkard. make it so. let max scene waters be your chief plaintiff.

sack up and go for it, sport. let's see what you've got.



Anonymous said...

Ty for bringing that issue here.

Anonymous said...

Hb cuckold.

Ch Truth said...

I suck dicks.

signed,

ChTruth,
a.k.a. S. Scott Johnson
Minneapolis, MN

Anonymous said...
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commie said...

Stumpy loses his mind again.....

CS your flying at 30, 000 feet i

Great typing there numbnutz....yeah he's the auto pilot in the movie Airplane that needs to be blown.....LOLOLOL

Roger Lynn Amick said...

I suck dicks too.

My wife, Lydia, likes to watch.

Signed,

Roger Lynn Amick
West Covina, California

Anonymous said...

Why would Donna Brazille be worried about being killed?

The Rev. James Boswell said...

IS REALLY TROUBLING.
Texas Gunman Was Able to Buy Guns Because of Air Force Lapse

ATLANTA (AP) — The gunman who slaughtered 26 people at a Texas church was able to buy weapons because the Air Force failed to report his domestic-violence conviction to the federal database that is used to conduct background checks on would-be gun purchasers, authorities said Monday.

Federal officials said the Air Force didn't submit Devin Patrick's Kelley's criminal history even though it was required to do so by Pentagon rules.

The Rev. James Boswell said...

I guess Ch doesn't mind who puts what on here.

The Rev. James Boswell said...

The conviction of the gunman, Devin P. Kelley, for domestic assault on his wife and infant stepson — HE HAD CRACKED THE CHILD'S SKULL — should have stopped Mr. Kelley from legally purchasing the military-style rifle and three other guns he bought in the last four years. But that information was never entered by the Air Force into the federal database for background checks on gun purchasers, the service said.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

In other words, even if the cabinet of President Donald Trump would implement the 25th amendment, you believe that armed militia would be justified to use arms to overthrow the government of The United States of America.

You have lost your mind.

The Rev. James Boswell said...

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Trump Approval Hits New Low In Another Poll

Taxes Would Rise for Many Working Class Voters
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JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

I see the "pastor" Rev. James Boswell posted:

"Ch Truth said...
I suck dicks.

signed,

ChTruth,
a.k.a. S. Scott Johnson
Minneapolis, MN "

and more politicalwire spam

WHAT A FUCKING LYING ASSHOLE HE IS. ROAST IN HELL MOTHERFUCKER

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Your comment is nonsense.

"well GO for it, alky.

for chrissakes, you've been waving around the 25th amendment for a fucking YEAR. talk is cheap, drunkard. make it so. let max scene waters be your chief plaintiff.

sack up and go for it, sport. let's see what you've got."


You obviously don't understand anything when you reply to me.

If t the cabinet of President Donald, comes to the conclusion that the President is incapable of performing the duties of The President, they are acting within the duties of the cabinet.

We have others who believe that the people think the right to form militia groups and overthrow the government of the United States.

The Rev. James Boswell said...

Cowardly James's F'ing Daddy posted
'I see the "pastor" Rev. James Boswell posted'


Actually, I don't approve either of falsely calling someone a pedophile or of falsely representing someone as liking fellatio.

As Balls said the last time this happened, Whoever is doing this, Stop it.

If someone thinks the Chtruth-fellatio posts are in solidarity with me, I say, Stop it.

But I know who put up the Boswell-pedophile and the Amick-fallatio posts, and that would be Cowardly, also known as James's F'ing Daddy.

The Rev. James Boswell said...

We can't even have the quiet dignity here to post about this tragedy in a respectful way.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...


Hey FUCKING LIAR REV JAMES BOSWELL

I didn't (nor did cowardly king obama) put up those posts.

SO YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY AS WRONG ABOUT THIS AS YOUR POLITICS
and you OBVIOUSLY LIED yet again about spamming

I'd love to have CHT check IP addresses so you can be confirmed as the FUCKING CULPRIT of the post I attributed to you. Swear on GODS NAME you didn't do that posting and I might believe you.

but given your slimy character, probably still wouldn't as you appear to think you are above God. AGAIN ROAST IN HELL YOU PATHETIC EXCUSE of a "pastor"

Anonymous said...

Jane, stop hating.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...


GOOD NEWS !!!!

james has posted he thought the ACLU was monitoring our site after he contacted them.

If so, and I hope they are, LOOKS VERY LIKELY HE WILL BE the one EXPOSED. What's with the regularity that the left creates fake hate crimes and then are exposed a doing it to themselves??? Saw another one today. the fucking "pastor" fits that profile to a "t".

ROFLMFAO !!!

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...


I see the "pastor" slinked off again after being challenged that he was the creator of the vile post he charged me with.

He'll probably come back and try to weasel around it

MAN UP and swear to God you didn't and offer to roast in hell if you did. Of course maybe you aren't a true believer.

Either way a real pastor would apologize.

Anonymous said...

Fake hate crime, yep, staged by blacks to "out white racism". Oppsie.
Case makes your point.

Kansas State University, a car found near there with racist words painted on it was reported as a hate crime. That was until our police officer exposed the owner a Black man did it to his own car.


Anonymous said...

VA GOV RACE,surely Democrats get this Win as expected, right?

Commonsense said...

And yet Democrats are nervous. Surely the polls are correct and Northam will win easily.

Anonymous said...

Seems the Dems have this one in the bag. Is this the tide turner , you know, the ONE THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR.

commie said...

Commonsense said...
And yet Democrats are nervous.

And what's your point????

Anonymous said...

You obviously don't understand anything when you reply to me.
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i understand just fine. and it's obvious that you and your wet dreams of 25th amendment removal/impeachment are batshit crazy delusional.

no rational, clear thinking, intelligent individual finds trump unfit for office. there's simply no evidence to substantiate the claim. and the burden of proof on his would-be accusers is high. extremely high. for very good reason.

you lost, alky. get over it.

go make yourself useful and lie about how trump feeds feeds the koi fish in japan like cnn.





Anonymous said...

There is no way one of those right wing militia groups would be able to take on the the armed forces of the United States.

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oh yeah,

well, the taliban drove the soviets out of afghanistan, and they've made our presence there a world class pain in the ass as well.

and if recent events would be our guide it's not right wing groups we should be concerned with.

steve scalise damned near died at the hands of a bernie bro.

rand paul has 5 seriously broken ribs at the hands of a self-avowed socialist.

so once again your psychological projection kicks in. my side's not the problem alky.

YOURS IS.

oh, and by the way, the church shooter was taken out by a former NRA instructor.

so go fuck yourself.

The Rev. James Boswell said...

When machine guns were outlawed, they pretty well disappeared. Why? Because simply possessing one, in a home or in the trunk of a car, could get a criminal SERIOUS prison time.

Very, very few people have been killed by machine guns since they became illegal for ordinary citizens to own.
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Why don't we have a constitutional right to bear machine guns?
Because they are too deadly.

Why don't we have a constitutional right to bear grenade launchers?
Because they are too deadly.

Why don't we have a constitutional right to bear flame throwers?
Too deadly.

Bazookas?
Too deadly.

Surface to air missile launchers?
Too deadly.

Mortars?
Too deadly.

So why should we have a constitutional right to bear assault rifles?

A mother in the church covered her children, three girls and a boy, with her body trying to save them. She and two of the girls were killed and the boy was shot five times by the assault rifle-wielding shooter.

But let's be sure to leave assault rifles on the protected list, so the gun industry can continue to make their huge profits and contribute money to the GOP.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...


I SEE THE "pastor" Rev JAMES BOSWELL has returned with his tail between his legs and he won't deny on Gods name that he wasn't the one who wrote that despicable post and then accused me of it.

He obviously did.

I SPIT on the MOTHERFUCKER

and laugh my ass off at him once again getting his own neck caught in the trap he attempted to set. DUMB as SHIT THAT ASSHOLE and very unbecoming of a "pastor" as well as a true despicable.

ROFLMFAO !!!

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