Saturday, January 27, 2018

It's all about the numbers...

President Trump offers exactly what the Democrats are publicly asking for. More importantly, he just offered the "dreamers" more than anyone else actually ever has before.


Under the rules of Obama's DACA orders, the so called "dreamers" were only provided with extended work permit status. Under what Trump has offered, the "dreamers" would be provided (for the first time) with the chance to become citizens.

In exchange, the President wants to limit the unpopular chain migration policy to immediate family, end the even more unpopular lottery immigration system, is asking for additional funding for border security (which everyone apparently wants), and is expecting appropriations for the wall.

Schumer rejected the offer flat out, claiming that the Trump proposal will "tear apart" our immigration system. In other words, Schumer and the Democrats would rather maintain the current unpopular immigration policy, than provide the pathway to citizenship for dreamers.

You know when you have a politician by the short and curly? When they do a lot of complaining in the generic rhetorical sense, rather than actually providing specifics. What Schumer is doing (but doesn't want you to know) is actually choosing chain and lottery migration over a merit based system. Moreover, this choice to maintain the broken chain and lottery migration system is more important than the pathway to citizenship for the dreamers.

Reality here folks. All this talk by the Democrats about the dreamers? 100% bullshit. 

They never cared, because the dreamers only provide them with a one time potential boost to their demographic base.  Their real concern is protecting chain and lottery migration (which brings in dreamer style numbers every year).

Schumer and the Democrats have just been exposed.  Their supporters will close their eyes, cover their years, and yell "Trump, Trump, Trump, Russia, Russia, Russia" over and over again.

35 comments:

Myballs said...

And they'll continue the new McCarthyism, accusing anyone who disagrees of being a racist.

commie said...

and I'm sure they think that it was superb.

Opinions like yours CH are exactly like assholes....everyone has one.....

Sure Looks That Way said...

It Sure Looks Like Obstruction of Justice

Jeffrey Toobin: “Mueller and his team surely have evidence on obstruction of justice that has not yet been made public. But even on the available evidence, Trump’s position looks perilous indeed. The portrait is of a President using every resource at his disposal to shut down an investigation—of Trump himself. And now it has become clear that Trump’s own White House counsel rebelled at the President’s rationale for his actions.

“Abundant questions remain about Trump’s fate in the Mueller investigation. Can or will a sitting President be indicted? What, if anything, will the House of Representatives do with respect to its impeachment powers? In what forum and format will the public see the full range of the evidence against the President? But on perhaps the most important question of all—whether the President of the United States committed the crime of obstruction of justice—the answer now seems clear.”

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...


looks like the "pastor" is once again posting political_lire democratic talking points spam. the sun must have risen this morning.

what a fucking loser.

and an undocumented pedophile as he proudly pointed out.

ROFLMFAO

Real News said...

Fox News again posted a dominant, across-the-board primetime and total day ratings win on Tuesday. They also got a strong performance in the demo from Martha MacCallum‘s The Story in the 7 PM hour.

According to Nielsen, Fox News led the way with 3,243,000 total viewers in primetime, and 692,000 in the advertiser-coveted adults 25-54 demo. MSNBC finished second in both categories with 2,315,000 overall, and 535,000 in the key demo. CNN placed third with 994,000 total viewers, and 400,000 in the demo.

American Voters said...

Jeffrey toobin. Lol

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Schumer said no to Trump.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer opposes the immigration framework released by the White House — a potentially fatal blow for the prospective legislation in the closely divided Senate.

The New York Democrat on Friday accused President Donald Trump of using a proposed path for citizenship for young undocumented immigrants as cover for making sweeping — and damaging — changes to the legal immigration system.

"This plan flies in the face of what most Americans believe," Schumer said on Twitter. While Trump "finally acknowledged that the Dreamers should be allowed to stay here and become citizens, he uses them as a tool to tear apart our legal immigration system and adopt the wish list that anti-immigration hard-liners have advocated for for years."

The one-page proposal released by the White House on Thursday would allow as many as 1.8 million young immigrants to become citizens, while also calling for $25 billion in spending on a border wall and security as well as sharply restricting family-based immigration and eliminating a visa lottery system. White House officials are hoping the Senate will put it up for a vote, but it appears doomed to fail.

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders quickly shot back, tweeting that Schumer prefers "open borders & sanctuary cities over law & order and popular, common sense reforms."

Soon after, Trump himself piled on with a personal insult aimed at Schumer.

“DACA has been made increasingly difficult by the fact that Cryin’ Chuck Schumer took such a beating over the shutdown that he is unable to act on immigration!” Trump tweeted.

Wiki said...

Jeffrey Toobin, very distinguished.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The bipartisan bill was first ok with your hero. We know what he did then. Twitter angry.

You have lost 100% of your hate filled shithole brain.

Anonymous said...

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders quickly shot back, tweeting that Schumer prefers "open borders & sanctuary cities over law & order and popular, common sense reforms."

Soon after, Trump himself piled on with a personal insult aimed at Schumer.

“DACA has been made increasingly difficult by the fact that Cryin’ Chuck Schumer took such a beating over the shutdown that he is unable to act on immigration!” Trump tweeted.



precisely.

schumer and the democrats have taken the side of the law breaking over the law abiding. all because they are desperate for the votes.

and CH nails it here alky:

"They never cared, because the dreamers only provide them with a one time potential boost to their demographic base. Their real concern is protecting chain and lottery migration (which brings in dreamer style numbers every year)."

they never cared going all the way back to the great society. LBJ had a solitary goal: 'getting those ni@@ers to vote democrat for 200 years.' liberals absolutely destroyed the black nuclear family with their free shit, and did it with glee. not because they cared. only because of the votes.





Anonymous said...


Lol@HB

Got the $100 you owe me.

When can I expect payment?

Anonymous said...

HB, Proudly proclaims Crying Schumer killed the illegals dreams.

Own it .

"Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer opposes the immigration framework released by the White House — a potentially fatal blow for the prospective legislation .
."

Wiki said...

James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.

Anonymous said...

James a fellow traveler of yours is claiming in his pedophile case he is , in his mind 9 , not his real age 34 years old.

Paul Krugman said...

Jeffry Toobin is wrong more than I am.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I read it a couple times. It looks to me, that you are projecting your own cynical beliefs. The Democrats never gave a shit. It was just politics and opposition to the President and his policies.

Not everyone is as cynical as you. They of course do not want to see hundreds of thousands of young people expelled from the United States, and into a situation where they don't have their families, jobs,colleges and even a roof over their heads. It would make the President and the Republicans look like racists. There is a bipartisan bill that would pass without a doubt. Trump has said that he would sign anything they would send him. That disappeared with one street. Well yes they give a shit. You don't give a fucking shit.

There are partisan issues on both sides. The Democrats want to basically follow the party of Ronald Reagan. He gave millions of illegal immigrants a path to citizenship.

Most of the Republicans are not looking at this as a racist issue. Most of them know that if the Dreamers became citizens in a relatively short amount of time, that most of them would vote for the Democrats. The Democrats look at it the same way, just in the opposite direction. It's cynical on both sides. But that is just politics.

They both care. Neither one is a fucked up as you.

Teresa Dulyea-Parker said...

James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.

Anonymous said...

HB, you already called us racist, not look like racist but actual racist.

Going on 9 + years you have called ever conservative on this blog.

Anonymous said...

"Hillary Clinton loves you, bitches.

The former presidential candidate and secretary of state sent out a video message “directed to activist bitches supporting bitches,” as she put it, via Twitter Friday night.

“Hey everyone, I just wanted to say thanks,” Clinton said into a cellphone camera, seated at a red banquette in what appeared to be a restaurant.

“Thanks for your feminism, for your activism, and all I can hope is you keep up the really important, good work,” she said.

At the urging of an off-camera companion, she added with a laugh: “And let me just say, this is directed to the activist bitches supporting bitches. So let’s go.” Hillary Drunk or drugged out?

Democrats and Republicans said...

Gridlock Worsens Under Trump

“As lawmakers recover from a dispiriting government shutdown and prepare for President Trump’s State of the Union address on Tuesday, Capitol Hill is absorbed with concern that Mr. Trump’s presidency has pushed an already dysfunctional Congress into a near-permanent state of gridlock that threatens to diminish American democracy itself,” the New York Times reports.

“The sense of gloom is bipartisan. A group of Republicans in the House and the Senate are warning of a secret plot in the F.B.I. to overthrow the Trump government. Democrats speak of corruption and creeping authoritarianism, unchecked by a Congress that has turned into an adjunct of the executive.”

“And few lawmakers can muster a word of pride in their institution.“

Anonymous said...

The Democrats never gave a shit. It was just politics and opposition to the President and his policies.
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i'll have those beaners votin' democrat for the next 200 years."


Trump said...

I won't visit the U.K. unless they ban free speech."

(Protests, in other words.)

wphamilton said...

"this is directed to the activist bitches supporting bitches?" - "Hillary Drunk or drugged out?"

I'd say, since it was at the urging of a friend and in an informal, relaxed social situation, that it was Clinton's unguarded personality.

I also think that it could be a measure of how far Hillary Clinton's relevance has fallen. "Bitches" connotes a little differently to that small sub-culture than it does to the rest of us, who find it somewhat offensive. That she is addressing small, radical cultures using counter-culture jargon implies that her influence has shrunk to that degree. I can imagine Hillary desperately trying to cling to some sort of influence, and influence, and coming out with that sort of thing. It's kind of sad and pathetic when you think about it.

wphamilton said...

"Their supporters will close their eyes, cover their years, and yell "Trump, Trump, Trump, Russia, Russia, Russia""

Eh, that sounds more like core Trump supporters than anyone else. Projection.

Myballs said...

And now we're seeing the liberal writers all applying the latest strategy, writing stories about how close Mueller is getting to charging Trump with obstruction. Its complete phoney projection. But they're desperate to change the subject back to trump.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Trump said...
I won't visit the U.K. unless they ban free speech."
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the UK has already banned free speech, genius. say the wrong thing over there and you end up charged with "hate speech" and you land in jail.

Anonymous said...

Schumer Shutdown 2 coming. Putting illegals before our Military.

Do it, but this time don't blink.

Anonymous said...

What happened with the Trump losses to hillary if not for the collusion with Russia?

commie said...

KD the loser posted....

Putting illegals before our Military.

No one is denying our military anything....Howerver, there are programs that need to be reviewed or cancelled The osprey, Littoral combat ship....F35 come to mind..... as to the latest BS coming from the right which non thinking dolts like KD buy into are getting rather tedious....Hillary lost and if she had colluded, I am sure Nunes or Howdy Gowdy would have convicted her by now. All they are doing is seeing what sticks, and for morons like you KD...seems just about everything is hillaries fault...LOL!!!

commie said...

As discussed and cited, all those wonderful bonus's and wage increases are a shell game for the big picture, providing lots of money to the stockholders via buy backs and dividends.....Seems the 50% who own stock will be happy. as congress gives the middle finger to the voters who support them...white, uneducated old males....

The Republican tax law has slashed the federal corporate tax rate to 21 percent, from 35 percent. The Trump administration has argued that this cut will translate into big raises for workers, but many economists say that most of those gains will actually flow to shareholders and top executives. Take Walmart. The company says it will spend $700 million on bonuses and higher wages for cashiers, drivers and other hourly workers. That’s a tidy sum, but the company is spending far more — $4 billion — to buy back its stock, which will benefit its investors by raising the share price. And it is worth keeping in mind that Walmart also raised wages when tax rates were higher under President Barack Obama.


Apple says it is repatriating most of the $252 billion of cash it holds abroad by making a onetime tax payment of $38 billion to the federal government. The company also has promised to create 20,000 jobs and build a new campus. This sounds great. But thanks to the Republican tax law, Apple will pay at a fraction of the tax rate on its foreign profits that it would have paid at under previous tax law — just 15.5 percent on profits held as cash and 8 percent on earnings held in nonliquid assets like real estate and equipment. It is hard to believe that lawmakers made the right call by giving Apple and other multinational companies this huge tax break. Research has shown that a 2004 law allowing companies to bring foreign profits home at a discounted tax rate did little to boost investment or create jobs and that most of the tax savings went to shareholders.

In cutting the corporate tax rate, Republicans have argued that the 35 percent rate was holding American businesses back relative to foreign competitors. This is hard to square with the fact that companies based in the United States have prospered in recent decades. Apple, for example, has become one of the world’s most valuable companies and went from employing 5,000 people in the United States in 1998 to employing 84,000 this year.


tne thing we know for sure is that if Obama or HRC passed the same tax reform as Trump you would be celebrating the worker bonuses and...

There’s nothing wrong with cutting taxes on corporations as part of a broader reform that closes loopholes, increases American competitiveness and helps create well-paying jobs. Unfortunately, none of those conditions apply in this case.


As many experts have pointed out, corporate tax cuts passed by Congress and signed into law by President Ronald Reagan in the 1980s did not turbocharge wages or investment. Similarly, a series of corporate tax cuts in the last 10 years or so by Labour and Conservative governments in Britain — to 19 percent, from 30 percent — did not produce a boom in wages or investment. In fact, wages grew faster in the United States, according to an article on Vox by Kimberly Clausing, an economics professor, and Edward Kleinbard, a law professor.

commie said...

James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.

Commonsense said...

As discussed and cited, all those wonderful bonus and wage increases are a shell game for the big picture

It sucks when reality is not on your side doesn't it Dennis?

commie said...

It sucks when reality is not on your side doesn't it Dennis?

The reality is that your moronic trump support is based on whole cloth....You have proof companies are not buying back stock and paying dividends to the elite.???? As usual, all you have is opinion....LOL

Commonsense said...

Heh, real people are getting real bonuses.
Real people are getting real raises.
Real people are getting real jobs.

And all Democrats can do is fall back on tired, old, class envy propaganda.

Trump is keeping his promise and #MAGA.

Cue the insults from Dennis.

Anonymous said...

The Trump Economy has the lost years defenders getting ever more crazy.