Wednesday, January 17, 2018

Jeff Flake lives up to name...

Flake compares Trump to Stalin?
Well not really...

I read Coldheart's post the other day and changed my mind.
“I am in no way comparing President Trump to Joseph Stalin,” Flake told host Christiane Amanpour. “Joseph Stalin was a killer. Our president is not. But it just puzzles me as to why you’d use a phrase that is so loaded and that has such deeper meaning, the press being the enemy of the people.”

10 comments:

Flake really said...

In other words, Trump is not like Stalin in some respects, but in other respects, he is far too much like Stalin.

It may also be said...

Our president is not a killer.
Just a racist, sexual predator, adulterer, liar, xenophobe, narcissist, egomaniac, and perpetual liar.

Rev Jim Boswell said...

James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.

Myballs said...

UK reports that he spoke to a nearly empty chamber.

US media spends the rest of the day telling us how wonderful he is.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

President Trump’s latest obloquy—calling a number of countries “shitholes” and asking why we are expected to accept their immigrants—is offensive for all the reasons you’ve probably heard: it’s insulting, racially divisive, callous, and so on. The United States has welcomed immigrants from various “shithole” countries for much of its history. Those schleppers worked, sweated, and saved, started businesses, paid taxes, and asked God to bless America.

If only that was all there was to it. As is so often case in this president’s administration, noxious wording is distracting from a serious public-policy debate. The truth is that an “hourglass,” low-mobility, big-government economy presents a new set of questions about immigration policy. Today’s immigrants face a different economic reality from their predecessors.

During the mass migration that took place in the period between 1850 and 1930, more than 12 million immigrants arrived in the United States. Many were uneducated and unskilled people from countries that were largely shitholes. Immigrants from nineteenth-century Ireland, Italy, Poland, Russia, Austro-Hungarian, Greece, even the now-flush Scandinavian countries, were escaping poor, stagnant places where the future promised more of the same.

Poverty and lack of skills didn’t stop newcomers from finding work because there was plenty of it—on the piers of New York and Philadelphia, the meatpacking plants of the Midwest, and in the factories that were spreading to cities all over the country. In 1914, over 70 percent of the factory workers at Ford Motor Company were foreign-born. Immigrants and their children were over half of all of American manufacturing workers in 1920. New technologies and a swelling population also meant more jobs for construction and transportation workers. The pre–World War II industrial economy, sociologists Roger Waldinger and Joel Perlman have written, offered a “range of blue collar opportunities” for immigrants and their children.
https://www.city-journal.org/html/truth-behind-trump-storm-15676.html
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The odds are that all or most of you are descendants of that generation of immigrants. Your grandparents came fro shitholes. I'm far ahead of you, as I am descended of a German who came to North America in 1759.

I don't have a problem with 'deep vetting', or I would prefer that they have at least a descent education. Letting in relatives has to be carefully vetted too, because there is a record of terrorist or just criminality. But the shithole comment and yes he said it unless you think Graham is a liar. His comment is used by terrorist recruiters. And remember, we have troops in many of those shithole countries, so that puts them in danger. Trump is a disaster, and will down in history as perhaps the worst ever

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...


RCP Average 1/2 - 1/16 -- 39.4 55.4 -16.0
Economist/YouGov 1/14 - 1/16 1311 RV 42 54 -12
Rasmussen Reports 1/14 - 1/16 1500 LV 45 54 -9
Quinnipiac 1/12 - 1/16 1212 RV 38 57 -19
Reuters/Ipsos 1/12 - 1/16 1638 A 39 56 -17
Gallup 1/8 - 1/14 1500 A 38 57 -19
Emerson 1/8 - 1/11 600 RV 39 52 -13
IBD/TIPP 1/2 - 1/10 901 A 35 58 -23


Excluding the outliers It's still about 38%, the lowest for a President in his first year.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Key quotes:

"The enemy of the people,’ was what the president of the United States called the free press in 2017 ...

It is a testament to the condition of our democracy that our own president uses words infamously used by Joseph Stalin to describe his enemies."


"Despotism is the enemy of the people, a free press is the despot's enemy."


"We are in an era in which the authoritarian impulse is reasserting itself."


Flake also pointed to other countries whose authoritarian governments demonize their own press to get away with human rights abuses.

He has expressed admiration for dictators around the world. Not once has he uttered one word critical of Putin, who is a murderous dictator. All around the world, dictators look at our President and think "Well no shit, he's on my side!"

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

One thing that I haven't mentioned.

Most of those who agree with the shithole President don't want to see the country become more racially diverse. That's the underlying meaning in his remarks, and why his base stands side by side with the President.

Jonathan Swan said...

Kelly Has a Steve Bannon Moment

Jonathan Swan: “Late last night, a few hours after Fox News aired Bret Baier’s interview with John Kelly, a source close to the president told me Trump would explode when he saw what his chief of staff said. The source — who has spent a lot of time with Trump — predicted the president would hate the interview because Kelly came off as the mature professional who patiently educated an uninformed Trump, and helped him see the light and evolve on The Wall.

“Sure enough, a few hours later Trump tweets his displeasure.”

Said the source: “Kelly has finally ventured into Steve Bannon territory when it comes to trying to create the perception that he’s the ‘great manipulator,’ saving the country from Trump’s ignorance. The difference is, Steve tried to develop that reputation in off-the-record conversations with reporters. Kelly did it openly on the country’s most-watched cable network. It’s the subtle difference between hubris and arrogance.”

Anonymous said...



flake reminds me of you, alky.

an assclown on a political level and a complete coward on a personal level.