Saturday, February 24, 2018

My last word on Gun Control..


HT/RRB

132 comments:

commie said...

It's about time the youth of the country got united and involved in a cause like went on during the Viet Nam war....If it wasn't for students, nothing would have changed and we would have missed some great protest music that still has relevance today!!!!

But our esteemed host will continue to fellate trump and his BS policies....Hope his kids are smarter then he is......LOLOLOL

Myballs said...

Obama tried to unite them in the thuggish ways of antifa and BLM. But thankfully all of his damage is being fixed.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Opie, I am sure that he swallows every single drop.

C.H. Truth said...

Sure Roger...

Go ahead and follow the 16 year old who hid in the closet. Your type of hero!

Anonymous said...

Every liberal here owns at least on gun. Why? To defend and protect themselves and thier loved ones.
Yet. They are, unwilling to let others do the same.

Anonymous said...

I support Roger ban "the Buckstop".

Anonymous said...

California has the most gun related deaths , yet the lead the nation in gun laws.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

CNN released emails from a network producer on Friday that contradict a Florida high school student's claim that the network scripted a question that he was supposed to ask at a televised town hall event this week.

Colton Haab, a survivor of last week's mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., said Thursday on Fox News that CNN had initially asked him to "write a speech and ask questions" for the event but that a producer ultimately scripted a question for him. CNN has denied that claim.

According to Business Insider, CNN and Haab agreed on the question that he would ask at the town hall. His father, Glenn Haab, pulled his son out of the event after the network refused to let the student read a lengthy speech.

The Haabs also appeared to provide doctored emails to media outlets to back up the claim that CNN scripted the questions, Business Insider reported. CNN's version of the email showed that the producer wrote she wanted the student to stick to a question "that he submitted," but that phrase was omitted in the version released by the family.

The Hill site has copies of the altered emails.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/375401-cnn-releases-emails-to-push-back-on-claim-about-scripted-town-hall-question?amp

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

CH swallowed every single drop

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...


Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
“School shooting survivor says he quit @CNN Town Hall after refusing scripted question.” @TuckerCarlson. Just like so much of CNN, Fake News. That’s why their ratings are so bad! MSNBC may be worse.

5:26 PM - Feb 22, 2018


Gulp Gulp Gulp

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.drphil.com/shows/19-years-after-columbine-survivors-speak-to-parkland-students/

Dr Phill.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Mason didn't sign the final version of the Constitution.

Here is George Mason’s quote in full, as recorded in the transcripts of the Virginia Ratifying Convention:

“I ask, Who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers. But I cannot say who will be the militia of the future day. If that paper on the table gets no alteration, the militia of the future day may not consist of all classes, high and low, and rich and poor; but they may be confined to the lower and middle classes of the people, granting exclusion to the higher classes of the people.”


If this seems a tad different than what the the Second Amendment means that all gun owners are part of the “militia”.

Just for thought.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He was afraid that only the poor would have to serve.

A hypocritical liberal?

wphamilton said...

Minimum age to possess a gun, say 21, is a good start. Granted there are many people of that age or younger who I'd trust more than most of their older counterparts, and I'd actually support allowing them on an exception basis. If there could be some kind of reliable mechanism for that. Criminalize it as well, not this 2nd chance juvenile bullshit. If you're 18, caught with a gun, jail time period. Personally I think 21 is extreme - make it 18 or 19, but make sure there are real consequences.

A second prong is more vigilant detection. To put it bluntly, keep tabs on the few who demonstrate signs of being at risk. It's the same reasoning as "if even one child's life is saved", then it's worth it to infringe in general on everyone's rights. Except this only infringes on the rights of minors who by their own actions have already presented as a danger. If even one child's life is saved, it's worth the invasion of privacy to keep the dangerous kid under surveillance. It's worth the extra expense. For-warned who they are, then maybe you can stop them before they take lives.

Third, we need to decriminalize self-defense. We need to worry less about the potential financial liability of some business, or the State itself, and care more for saving lives. Businesses for example will tell you do not engage, let alone defend, and give the criminal every cooperation possible. In government institutions, probably the same. It's not for your safety ... it's for the safety of their bottom line. Pull a gun or some other weapon to successfully defend yourself, and you're as likely to be terminated and face charges as anything else. That needs to change.

Arm the teachers? Of course not, not the vast majority of the public school teachers I've ever come across. Not only untrained, ignorant about weapons and use of force, but often neurotic about it. No way do I want them armed. HOWEVER, that doesn't mean that you cannot A) make it a job requirement for new hires, and B) train current teachers and allow them to be armed if they pass the training, pass a psych evaluation, and still want to. At the very least, decriminalize and destigmatize their use of physical force when the situation warrants it. Act up, get physical and threatening, face the immediate consequences. That is as it should be. And don't be surprised if that eliminates 90% of the bullying problem.

So there you have it, the objective a-political plan to eliminate gun violence in schools.

Commonsense said...

CNN copied the email into a words document. It anybody was editing it was CNN.

Loretta said...

Well said WP.

Commonsense said...

Here is George Mason’s quote in full, as recorded in the transcripts of the Virginia Ratifying Convention

Not the full quote, you're missing this.

“I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”
George Mason, Virginia Ratification Convention 1788

Commonsense said...

Minimum age to possess a gun, say 21, is a good start.

So it's open season on late teenage girls?

Loretta said...

"Personally I think 21 is extreme - make it 18 or 19, but make sure there are real consequences." WP

Commonsense said...

Personally, I have a problem denying full constitutional rights to people who are considered fully capable adults at age 18.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

David Hogg is on MSNBC right now. He doesn't want teachers to be armed .

Commonsense said...

Of course he doesn't. Actually doing something was never his agenda.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

NEW YORK -- The National Rifle Association (NRA) is facing a corporate backlash as companies take a closer look at their investments, co-branding deals and other ties to the gun industry following the latest school massacre. A handful of companies have ended discount programs with the NRA as the group aggressively resists calls for stricter gun control after a gunman killed 17 people at a Florida high school last week.

The moves come as petitions circulated online targeting companies offering discounts to NRA members on its website. #BoycottNRA was trending on Twitter.

Members of the NRA have access to special offers from partner companies on its website, ranging from life insurance to wine clubs. But the insurance company MetLife Inc. discontinued its discount program with the NRA on Friday. Car rental company Hertz and Symantec Corp., the software company that makes Norton Antivirus technology, did the same.

"We have notified the NRA that we are ending the NRA's rental car discount program with Hertz," the company tweeted Friday.

In a statement, Bank of America said it would examine its relationships with gunmakers who manufacture "assault weapons for non-military use."

"We are joining other companies in our industry to examine what we can do to help end the tragedy of mass shootings, and an immediate step we're taking is to engage the limited number of clients we have that manufacture assault weapons for non-military use to understand what they can contribute to this shared responsibility," the statement said.

Commonsense said...

A Second Person Comes Forward Claiming CNN Tried To Rig Their Florida Town Hall With Gun Control Advocates

There’s an ongoing debate about whether or not CNN stacked their town hall in Florida with people who fit CNN’s anti-NRA, pro gun control narrative. Both sides have arguments, but it seems the side that believes the town hall was a witch hunt/ kangaroo court now have one more witness to put on the stand.

According to Fox News, Andrew Klein, father of a girl who attends Stoneman Douglas High School, received a call from a CNN producer who was looking for people to “espouse a certain narrative which was taking the tragedy and turning it into a policy debate.” Klein said the producer contacted him the day after the shooting, searching for someone with a gun control bent.

If you watched the town hall, you would have noticed that the entire thing felt incredibly one-sided. No arguments were presented in favor of gun rights except for those that came from Sen. Marco Rubio and NRA spokeswoman Dana Loesch. Some of the questioners came off more like activists than concerned or upset citizens. It felt very dirty, and many believed (including yours truly) that it seemed awfully convenient that so many people from one side of the argument were popping up.


CNN has already lost. No one really believes they didn't rig the town hall.

Commonsense said...

That's free enterprise Roger. They will also suffer the market consequences if they are wrong.

You'll just never hear it,

Anonymous said...

CNN lost , clearly.

commie said...

CNN has already lost. No one really believes they didn't rig the town hall.

An opinion piece of an opinion.....claiming and proof are 2 different things....Your party thrives on fake news and obfuscation to forward your agenda...Truth and reality, 2 things you wouldn't know if it hit you in the ass....The only ones who believe they rigged anything are weak minded uneducated R's like you cramps.....Maybe you should be an armed teacher.....so you could be the first one running away from the shooter....

Commonsense said...

I rest my case.

Commonsense said...

Schiff lays an egg.

commie said...

Schiff lays an egg.


And Nunes is just another fraud and liar.....

Commonsense said...

I think you're projecting there sport.

Commonsense said...

There's really nothing in the Schiff memo that contradicts the Nunes memo and it's really nothing more than a rehash to Democrat talking points.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

WASHINGTON, Feb 24 (Reuters) - Democrats on the U.S. House Intelligence Committee defended official investigations into claims of Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election in a party memo released on Saturday.

The 10-page, partially-redacted document, which was posted to the panel's website, sharply criticized a previously released Republican memo as a "transparent effort to undermine" investigations by the FBI, Justice Department and Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

The memo defends the FBI's obtaining of warrants to conduct temporary surveillance of Carter Page, an associate of President Donald Trump's election campaign, whom the Democrats say "the FBI assessed to be an agent of the Russian government." (Reporting by David Morgan, editing by G Crosse)

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Restate

As credible as info wars

commie said...

There's really nothing in the Schiff memo that contradicts the Nunes

The whole memo shows Nunes take was just that...pure BS! The single thread theory tying the surveillance to a single source, the dossier even to an idiot like you, should be obviously false. But thinking has never been a long suit of yours or understanding how the process works..... But being a sycophant fellator of trump, I would expect nothing else from you cramps....it is you style!!!

Commonsense said...

I summarize in one paragraph what Roger cut and pasted in three.

Whose the smart one!!!

Commonsense said...

The whole memo shows Nunes take was just that...pure BS! The single thread theory tying the surveillance to a single source, the dossier

The GOP memo said it was the principle justification for the FISA warrents, not the "single" one.

And that was not contradicted by Schiff.

commie said...


The GOP memo said it was the principle justification for the FISA warrants, not the "single" one.

WHICH IS BULLSHIT!!!!!!!! Nunes like you just makes shit up and try to pass it as fact.....IDIOT Schiff's memo completely contradicts the nunes allegation and tells the whole story, not the fake devin story.!!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Majority?s move to release to the House of Representatives its allegations against the
Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the Department. ofJustice is a transparent effort
to undermine those agencies, the Special Counsel, and Congress? investigations. It also risks
public exposure of sensitive sources and methods for no legitimate purpose.

FBI and of?cials did not ?abuse? the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) process,omit material information, or subvert this vital tool to spy on the Trump campaign.

In fact, DOJ and the FBI would have been remiss in their duty to protect the country had they not sought a ISA warrant and repeated renewals to conduct temporary surveillance of Carter Page,someone the FBI assessed to be an agent ofthe Russian government. DOJ met the r_ig9?1
transparency, and evidentiarv basis needed to meet probable cause requirement, by demonstrating:

Christopher Steele?s raw intelligence reporting did n_ot inform the decision to initiate its counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016. In fact, the FBI's closely-held investigative team only received Steele?s reporting in mid-September more than sevenweeks later. The FBI and, subsequently, the Special Counsel?s investigation into links
between the Russian government and Trump campaign associates has been based ontroubling law enforcement and intelligence information unrelated to the ?dossier.?

- October 21, 2016 FISA application and three subsequent renewals carefully outlined for the Court a multi-pronged rationale for surveilling Page, who, at the time ofthe ?rst application, was no longer with the Trump campaign. DOJ detailed Page?s pastrelationships with Russian spies and interaction with Russian of?cials during the 2016
campaign,?. DOJ cited multiple sources to support the case for
surveilling Page but made only narrow use of information from Steele?s sources aboutPage's speci?c activities in 2016, chie?y his suspected July 20I6 meetings in Moscow with
Russian officials. .
In fact,
the FBI interviewed Page in March 2016 about his contact with Russian intelligence, the verymonth candidate Donald Trump named him a foreign policy adviser.

0 concerning Russian links and outreach to Trump campaign officials;

Page?s history with Russian intelligence; and Page?s suspicious activities in 2016, including in Moscow.The Committee's Minority has therefore prepared this memorandum to correct the record:

- Christopher Steele?s raw intelligence reporting did not inform the decision to initiate its counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016. In fact, the FBI's closely-held investigative team only received Steele?s reporting in mid-September more than sevenweeks later. The FBI and, subsequently, the Special Counsel?s investigation into links
between the Russian government and Trump campaign associates has been based on troubling law enforcement and intelligence information unrelated to the ?dossier.?

- October 21, 2016 FISA application and three subsequent renewals carefully outlined for the Court a multi-pronged rationale for surveilling Page, who, at the time ofthe ?rst application, was no longer with the Trump campaign. DOJ detailed Page?s pastrelationships with Russian spies and interaction with Russian of?cials during the 2016
campaign,?. DOJ cited multiple sources to support the case for
surveilling Page but made only narrow use of information from Steele?s sources about Page's speci?c activities in 2016, chie?y his suspected July 20I6 meetings in Moscow with Russian officials. . In fact,
the FBI interviewed Page in March 2016 about his contact with Russian intelligence, the verymonth candidate Donald Trump named him a foreign policy adviser.

As DOJ informed the Court in subsequent renewals,

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/24/politics/read-democratic-memo/index.html
Steele?s reporting about Page?s Moscow meetings .

Commonsense said...

1) The "dossier" compiled by Christopher Steele (Steele dossier) on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton campaign formed an essential part of the Carter Page FISA application. Steele was a longtime FBI source who was paid over $160,000 by the DNC and Clinton campaign, via the law firm Perkins Coie and research firm Fusion GPS, to obtain derogatory information on Donald Trump's ties to Russia.

Essential is not the same as single.

Anonymous said...

Roger, already done with #neveragain ?

Where has your push for the 25th Amendment ?


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

. Papadopoulos?s disclosure,moreover, occurred against the backdrop of Russia?s aggressive covert campaign to in?uenceour elections, which the FBI. was already monitoring. We would later learn in Papadopoulos?s
plea that that the information the Russians could assist by anonymously releasing were thousands ot?Hillary Clinton?s emails.


Texts between the FBI agents Strozok and Page are completely irrelevant to the FISA application.

FISA was not used to spy on Trump or campaign. The Gold Tower Wiretap lie is put to sleep, except in the mindless suspects.

DOJ FISA waren was base on commpelling evidence that Carter Page was helping Russian intelligence acctivities in the US.

FID had independent bases for investigation Carter Page's activities during campaign and transition and after inauguration.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

FBI was investigating Trump campaign associates weeks before receiving dossier

That blows away half of the allegations in the Republican pile of laws.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The FBI team investigating the 2016 Trump campaign's contacts with Russians had already opened inquiries into multiple people connected to the campaign when it received a controversial dossier alleging illicit ties between then-candidate Trump and the Kremlin, a Democratic memo released by the House Intelligence Committee revealed Saturday.

The dossier, compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele, wasn't provided to the FBI's counterintelligence team until mid-September 2016, according to the memo. By then, the counterintelligence investigation into Trump's campaign was seven weeks old. "The FBI had already opened sub-inquiries into ... individuals linked to the Trump campaign," according to the findings of the committee's nine Democrats.

James said...

Two Weeks After Trump Blocked It, Democrats Release Rebuttal of G.O.P. Memo
The New York Times
By NICHOLAS FANDOS
28 mins ago

This shows how hypocritically Trump has acted.

James said...

Democratic Memo Tears Apart Nunes Claims

Jonathan Chait: “More than a month ago, conservatives rose up in coordinated demands to ‘release the memo.’ The memo, supposedly, contained breathtaking evidence of corruption in the Justice Department. The agents of the Deep State had allegedly used a partisan memo to spy on the Trump campaign, hiding its provenance. Fox News and numerous Republicans insisted the memo gave President Trump all the cause he needed to fire Rod Rosenstein and rein in Robert Mueller.

“Republicans managed to delay the publication of a rebuttal memo by House Democrats for several weeks. The motivation for the delay is obvious. The Democratic memo lays waste to every important accusation made by Devin Nunes. (Or, to put it more accurately, made by Trump, via Nunes.)”
_________________________

Vox: “The Democratic rebuttal to the Nunes memo tears it apart.”

James said...

Why is nobody not surprised?

James said...

Conservative Writer Stuns with Fiery Rebuke of Trump

NATIONAL REVIEW writer Mona Charen “was escorted out of the Conservative Political Action Conference on Saturday after slamming President Trump and conservatives for behaving like ‘hypocrites’ when it comes to women’s issues,” the Washington Examiner reports.

Said Charen: “I’m disappointed in people on our side for being hypocrites about sexual harassers and abusers of women who are in our party, who are sitting in the White House, who brag about their extramarital affairs, who brag about mistreating women.”

According to the Weekly Standard, she added: “This is the party that endorsed the Roy Moore for the Senate in the state of Alabama, even though he was a credibly-accused child molester. You cannot claim that you stand for women and be all right with that.”

“Charen’s comments were met with heavy boos inside the conference hall, and she was later spotted leaving the conference with a three-person security detail.”

James said...

Democrats Aren’t Rushing to Help GOP Fix Tax Glitches

“The glitches in the new tax law are starting to pile up,” Politico reports.

“Republicans would like to address the problems as soon as next month, as part of legislation needed to fund the government. But to do that, they’ll need assistance from Democrats, and it’s unclear they are in any mood to help. They were shut out of the process of writing the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, and may be looking for payback after Republicans STEADFASTLY REFUSED to allow them to fix hitches in the Affordable Care Act.

“Some Democrats say they will want to widely reopen the law, as part of any effort to clean up the legislative miscues.”

James said...

Gates Admits Lying About Rohrabacher Dinner
February 24, 2018 at 7:36 am EST

“Former Trump campaign aide Rick Gates just admitted to lying to U.S. investigators about a March 19, 2013, meeting between his boss, Paul Manafort, and an unidentified U.S. congressman. Public filings show a meeting that day between Manafort and Dana Rohrabacher, a Russia-friendly Republican congressman from California,” Bloomberg reports.

Anonymous said...

Foaming from the mouth Liberals
.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

There is no doubt that it affected the election.

Anonymous said...

Keep foaming little child.

Anonymous said...

Oct 26th 2016 , little foaming cripple alky, with a beer in one hand a joint in the othr assured us all, Hillary Wins. Why "because she has it all, the ground game, the media, the message, Bill and Obama".

Anonymous said...

Roger AmickOctober 31, 2016 at 9:50 PM
Clinton can win with a single digit lead. Trump's "Must Have" of swing states are changing, but not drastically. Florida is the only one that has gone Trump, but barely.

Devastation."

Yep.

James said...

Trump: Dem memo proves 'illegal' things were done
The Hill
3 hrs ago

President Trump on Saturday claimed that the House Intelligence Committee Democrats' memo proves that the FBI and Justice Department committed "terrible" and "illegal" acts.

"The Democrat memo response on government surveillance abuses is a total political and legal BUST," the president tweeted. "Just confirms all of the terrible things that were done. SO ILLEGAL!"

The Democrats on the committee released their redacted memo on Saturday, which rebuts the claims made in a GOP memo released earlier this month. The GOP memo accused FBI and Justice Department officials of abusing a surveillance program to improperly spy on the Trump campaign.

The GOP memo, while alleging abuses and anti-Trump bias within the agencies, did not say that any of the activity was criminal.

After its release, Trump claimed that the GOP memo "totally vindicates" him in the investigation into whether his campaign colluded with Russia while he was a candidate.
The White House responded to the Democratic memo earlier Saturday, saying that it "fails to answer serious concerns" raised in the GOP memo.

The White House's statement said that Trump supported the release of the Democrats' memo, despite his previous refusal to declassify it for publication earlier this month.

Anonymous said...

It will be close in the popular vote, 5% or less. But he won't get PA, NC, NV FL, and CO in sufficient numbers to approach 270. He will come in second in Utah, so those ECV won't be on his side. His path, considering the early vote that you dismissed out of hand and the far superior get out the vote efforts across the swing states, Clinton will get more than 300 ICV.".

Actual 2016 Results
PA, Trump
NC, Trump
NV Clinton
FL, Trump
CO Clinton

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The worst President in history is crumbling .

Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto has called off an official trip to Washington to meet with President Donald Trump after a tense phone call brought the two leaders to a policy-driven standstill.

Peña Nieto was tentatively planning the trip for March, a White House official said, but the official confirmed to CNN that the trip was put on hold following the phone call, which took place on February 20.

According to The Washington Post, which first reported the cancellation, officials from both countries told the paper that Peña Nieto "called off the plan after Trump would not agree to publicly affirm Mexico's position that it would not fund construction of a border wall."


A White House official told CNN that any meeting would be awkward and counterproductive given Trump's vow that Mexico would pay for the wall.

Anonymous said...

Keep foaming idiot HB.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I have been sober since June 25 2012 k'putz.

Most of the polls showed she in the lead. On October 25th of 2016. CH chickened out and made no prediction .

The Comey letter and Clinton's own failures will cost millions of lives in the near future.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

IQ approximately one hundred and fourty.

Your hate filled brain is in double digits

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Nunes memo’s core allegation is that the FBI and Department of Justice misled at least one federal judge on a Foreign Surveillance Intelligence Act (FISA) court during the Trump-Russia investigation.


In October 2016, the FBI requested a FISA warrant to spy on former Trump campaign aide Carter Page. FBI and DOJ officials argued that Page had troubling connections to the Kremlin, and wanted to check him out as part of their overall investigation into the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia.

An “essential part” of the application, Nunes argues, came from the so-called Steele dossier — the document containing major allegations of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia that was put together by former British spy Christopher Steele (it’s also the source of the “pee tape” rumors). The problem, Nunes argues, is that Steele’s research was partially funded by Democrats — but the FBI purposely neglected to tell the court about that source of funding.

In essence, Nunes alleges that the FBI used opposition research put together by a Democratic political operative to go after the Trump campaign without disclosing that clear conflict of interest to the court. This was, according to Nunes, “a troubling breakdown of legal processes established to protect the American people from abuses related to the FISA process.”


The Schiff memo argues that this isn’t true. And it has the receipts to prove it.

Anonymous said...

Tulsa World reports that the armed suspect, Tyrone Lee, entered the store Thursday evening. KJRH reported that Lee was carrying a “sawed-off shotgun.” Surveillance video showed that both women armed themselves with handguns and opened fire.

Lee was eventually able to flee the scene. Following the gun fight, “A man who matched his description and had multiple gunshot wounds showed up soon afterward at a local hospital.”

He was hospitalized in critical condition.

Tulsa Police believe Lee may be tied to numerous other robberies in Tulsa and Tulsa County.:

Heroes Winning Bigly.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The orders for the host.


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
4h4 hours ago

“Congressman Schiff omitted and distorted key facts” @FoxNews So, what else is new. He is a total phony!
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Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
6h6 hours ago

“Russians had no compromising information on Donald Trump” @FoxNews Of course not, because there is none, and never was. This whole Witch Hunt is an illegal disgrace...and Obama did nothing about Russia!
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Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
6h6 hours ago

Dem Memo: FBI did not disclose who the clients were - the Clinton Campaign and the DNC. Wow!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Republican leaders have argued that the former campaign aide, Carter Page, was unfairly targeted, saying the surveillance court that approved the warrant was never told that information from the dossier’s author, former British spy Christopher Steele, was financed by the Democrats.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/house-panel-releases-democrats-memo-defending-fbi-surveillance-of-ex-trump-campaign-aide/2018/02/24/4cff92f4-164f-11e8-92c9-376b4fe57ff7_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_demmemo437pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.83a4c2a0a1c7

I have seen that argument posted here several times, in the opinion of the author. The memo has evidence, not opinions, backed by data in the memo.

According to the Democrats’ memo, Page had been of interest to the FBI for years. It asserts that the bureau had interviewed him multiple times about his contacts with Russian intelligence, including in March 2016 — the same month he was named a Trump campaign adviser, and months before Steele was hired to conduct research on Trump and before he made contact with the FBI.

This is going to push the Republicans over the edge.

The memo’s content is the product of negotiations among the committee’s Democratic members, as well as with the FBI and the Justice Department..

Since the President and his allies in the unquestioning Republican party, and "others" here, have declared the FBI and the DOJ are in the bag for the Democrats and against Trump will go nuclear.

The Democrats are “advocating that it’s okay for the FBI and DOJ to use political dirt paid for by one campaign and use it against another political campaign,” Nunes

i have never said that of the FBI or DOJ since the demise of J. Edgar Hoover. He did not hide his dislike for Martin Luther King Jr. Since he died, the FBI has not been seen as having a political point of view, until the desperate President has called them corrupt and anti Trump. It's disgusting.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

What’s News
Democratic Memo Defends FBI’s Surveillance of Former Trump Adviser

The memo rejected the contention by Republicans that federal investigators had a partisan motive for looking into the conduct of Carter Page, who served as foreign-policy adviser to Mr. Trump during the 2016 campaign.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/house-releases-democratic-memo-on-russia-investigation-1519509217

The Not Fake WSJ

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

NRA IS AMERICA'S ISIS😡😡

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I can't wait to see what the Fox News story is on the top. I listened to Fox to hear the excuses. It will be about an off record, testimony to the Intelligence Committee R Numen.

good night k'putz

Teresa Parker said...

James Boswell of Normal is a pedophile.

commie said...

Nieto wanted donnie to aver that mexico was not going to pay for the wall....The donnie demurred.....It went to shit after that...Our negotiator in chief pisses off another ally with a 2000 mile border....The man is a genius, just like the sterile heifer lover....

commie said...

Nunes like the heifer lover all both full of crap......

The surveillance court knew that Mr. Steele’s clients had a political motive.

The Republican memo complained that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court was not told that the Clinton campaign and the D.N.C. had financed Mr. Steele’s research, suggesting that the judges were misled about the credibility of his information. Democrats have called that claim misleading because the judges were told of a political motive, just without specific names.


The Democratic memo provides a verbatim excerpt from the application, which stated that the F.B.I. believed that Mr. Steele had been commissioned by someone “likely looking for that could be used to discredit Candidate #1’s

Yep.....menstral will be disappointed, again,.....

Commonsense said...

The surveillance court didn't know that it was the DNC and the Hillary Clinton campaign that was behind the Steele dossier.

Most non-Democrat experts agreed that this was significant information that was withheld from the court.

The memo itself is nothing more than a bombastic reiteration of Democrat talking points.

It does not contradict to GOP memo and there's really no new information that it shed.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Schiff memo argues that this isn’t true. And it has the receipts to prove it.

Myballs said...

The Schiff memo is being trashed as a worthless collection of half truths and argumentative talking points. Power line has several articles addressing it.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Read it yourself, don't rely on info wars, Fox and Breightbart to tell you what to think.

I posted significant sections of the memo and you obviously didn't take the time to read it. You just clicked on the usual suspects.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Power line

Read it yourself, you claim to have a master's degree. Prove it, instead of the right wing world of hatred.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You won't be able to comprehend this.
“Papadopoulos, Flynn and now Gates have all flipped. How long can Manafort keep his lips zipped? Those Russian indictments show that Mueller is digging like mad, so the special counsel’s path could ultimately lead to Vlad. Sad!”

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Anonymous said...

Anonymous Myballs said...
The Schiff memo is being trashed as a worthless collection of half truths and argumentative talking points. Power line has several articles addressing it.



it certainly is, and rightly so. and you can tell by how indignant the alky is becoming in his defense of it.

Myballs said...

I read it. Thus the identification as half truths and partisan talking points. There are real problems with it.

You've become just another narrow minded California liberal more interested in holding the party hatred than actually finding the truth.

Anonymous said...

“Papadopoulos, Flynn and now Gates have all flipped. How long can Manafort keep his lips zipped?


if democrat hopes of removing trump hinge on THIS, then trump has nothing at all to worry about.

this whole thing has drifted from the merely absurd to the downright laughable. defending it has to be one of the more embarrassing situations a person can find themselves in.

Anonymous said...




hey alky -

a simple question for you:

the schiff memo completely contradicts james comey's testimony. so which one are we to believe???

Commonsense said...

The Schiff memo argues that this isn’t true. And it has the receipts to prove it.

Receipts?

Whatever, there's a big diffrence between calling it "politically motivated" and actually identifying the two organizations behind the dossier.

Two organizations whose vested interest in smering the Trump campaign is obvious.

You think merely labeling it "politically motivated" is sufficient.

That is an opinion only shared by the most partisan of Democrat political hacks.

Everybody else knows that is not nearly enough and that it was deceit by omission.

Anonymous said...

Funny how the leftist here foam

Anonymous said...



it looks like the alky ran away.


again.




Anonymous said...

What Insurance policy?

Anonymous said...

it looks like the alky ran away.


again." RRB

She has to reload to cut n paste.

Anonymous said...

California model gun control laws.

Most gun related Deaths of any State.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Just now on Fox And Friends, Nunes said that the media is attacking me because they are ideologically extreme and hate me. I watched it. He looked desperate.

Anonymous said...



nunes desperate?

LOL.

you have turned psychological projection into an art form, alky.

nunes has all the facts on his side. every time i see schiff he looks like he just sharted himself.

Anonymous said...

Blogger KD said...
California model gun control laws.

Most gun related Deaths of any State.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


i'm thinking that we just adopt the illinois gun laws nationally since they seem to be working so well in chicago.

and we need bigger 'gun free zone' signs. much bigger. say, the size of speed limit signs. because everyone always follows the speed limit.


Anonymous said...

#Onelessgun
#blm
#neveragain


Making zero different.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I'm a native of Rapid City South Dakota. My beliefs are founded on my experience, a deep student of history and my observations on politics and much more. I read it. As well as the Nunes memo.

The biggest issue is the timelines on the dossier initiated investigation lie by the Republican controlled congress intelligence committee.

I'm going to get ready to go to the gym today morning.

Trump endorsed a pedophile .

Anonymous said...

RRB, I Agree.

Each anti US Constitution 2nd Amendment Liberal should post a gun free Home sign in thier front yard.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

alky Five years seven months and 29 days

Anonymous said...

I'm going to get ready to go to the gym today morning.

Anonymous said...

Lol, it really is nothing to be proud of given your freemartin wife and you robbed the labor of other of 1.6 million dollars.

Anonymous said...

58.5 years, never been an alky.

Match that crippled broke Rog.

Commonsense said...

Nunes called the media dead. Doesn't sound like a desperate man to me.

Anonymous said...




boy, this david hogg twat waffle sure is milking HIS 15 minutes of fame.

angling for a cnn or MSDNC contract i'm sure.

Anonymous said...

This is the Direction of the Democrats, move further Left.

Just read at a speed of 825 words per minute a piece on California Sen. Diana Feinstein. She is losing long standing endorsements to her Alt Left Challenger.

Reason given DiFi is not radical militant Left Enough.

Anonymous said...


California Democrats decline to endorse Feinstein
The party declines to give its backing to the state's senior senator.
By DAVID SIDERS and CARLA MARINUCCI 02/25/2018 06:39 AM EST
SAN DIEGO — In a sharp rebuke of Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the California Democratic Party has declined to endorse the state’s own senior senator in her bid for reelection.

Riven by conflict between progressive and more moderate forces at the state party’s annual convention here, delegates favored Feinstein’s progressive rival, state Senate leader Kevin de León, over Feinstein by a 54 percent to 37 percent margin, according to results announced Sunday.

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Neither candidate reached the 60 percent threshold required to receive the party endorsement for 2018. But the snubbing of Feinstein led de León to claim a victory for his struggling campaign.

“The outcome of today’s endorsement vote is an astounding rejection of politics as usual, and it boosts our campaign’s momentum as we all stand shoulder-to-shoulder against a complacent status quo,” de León said in a prepared statement. “California Democrats are hungry for new leadership that will fight for California values from the front lines, not equivocate on the sidelines.”

A centrist Democrat, Feinstein has long maintained an uneasy relationship with activists who dominate state party conventions, and the vote this weekend — while embarrassing — was not unexpected. The result followed two days of lobbying by the candidates in convention speeches and throughout the convention halls.
"

In what world is DiFi a. "Centrist".


wphamilton said...

CS said ... Whatever, there's a big diffrence between calling it "politically motivated" and actually identifying the two organizations behind the dossier.

Two organizations whose vested interest in smearing the Trump campaign is obvious.


Not more obvious than actually saying that the interest was smearing the Trump campaign, as the FBI DID do. Good example of how the Schiff memo corrects a lie of the Nunes memo. Defenders even now still believe that the FBI somehow misled the Court about the origin of the Steel research, but the FBI actually stated the fact of it plainly.

Commonsense said...

boy, this david hogg twat waffle sure is milking HIS 15 minutes of fame.

I think he jumped the shark when he defended the coward of Broward.

Anonymous said...



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Congrats to the FBI on catching Arizona coach Sean Miller. You missed Nikolas Cruz, the Boston bombers, the 9/11 attackers, the San Bernardino terrorists, the Fort Hood terrorist, the Pulse nightclub terrorist and Larry Nassar but college sports is safe.

8:41 PM - 23 Feb 2018

commie said...

Nunes said that the media is attacking me because they are ideologically extreme and hate me. I watched it. He looked desperate


To me he had the same look of the cop that ran off like a chickenshit instead of doing his job....

commie said...

An idiot rat hole posted said the FBI missed all sorts of shooters....they forgot to mention the Las Vegas and VT incidents ...


the Fort Hood terrorist, the Pulse nightclub terrorist and Larry Nassar but

Probably the stupidest tweet ever posted, but then again Rat hole embraced it....so sad....

commie said...

menstral the cramp post a thought about a 17 year old kid who is a whole lot more mature than cramps could ever hope for...


boy, this david hogg twat waffle sure is milking HIS 15 minutes of fame.

Yep, he is an embarrassment to people like you who can't think for themselves and are brainwashed by the NRA and trump....Saw that NRA cunt this morning and all she has is the ability to speak without breathing and talk over everyone....whatta bitch, I wouldn't fuck her with your dick, cramps......

Loretta said...

"Congrats to the FBI on catching Arizona coach Sean Miller....."

Exactly.

Too many aren't connecting the dots.

commie said...

Rumor has it the climate is warming.....

Global warming plays an important role in causing heavier downpours
An increase in heavy downpours (exceeding the 99th percentile) has been documented across every region of the contiguous U.S. since 1958 (Figure 3), and this increase has been partially attributed to the increase in atmospheric moisture due to human-caused global warming. Every degree Centigrade that the air warms up increases the amount of water vapor the air can hold by 7%, due to increased evaporation from the oceans. Thus, record-breaking atmospheric moisture and the resultant major flooding--like the situation observed over the central U.S. this week--are something we will see a lot more of as the climate continues to warm in coming decades. The average moisture content of the atmosphere has already increased by about 4% since the 1970s, as expected from theory (the Clausius–Clapeyron equation). This increase has been attributed, in part, to human-caused global warming. There is research showing that in the summer, we can expect to see an increase in hourly precipitation extremes (greater than the 99th percentile) of up to 14% per degree Centigrade of warming; at colder temperatures, the increase is about 7% per degree Centigrade of warming, as one would expect from the Clausius–Clapeyron equation. The authors argue that the "super Clausius-Clapeyron scaling" of 14% more hourly rainfall per degree Centigrade of warming in extreme events in summer happens because of the dynamics of convective (thunderstorm) clouds--the extra moisture causes more rainfall formation and more latent heat release when the water vapor condenses into liquid, which forces stronger updrafts, invigorating the thunderstorm, and potentially leading to a stronger rate of condensation and even more rainfall formation.

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wphamilton said...

Which btw also influences snowfall. Warmer temperatures over water = more moisture in the air = more snowfall. Even though people commonly may associate more snow with more colder weather.

James said LaPierre said...

“We believe in absolutely gun-free, zero-tolerance, totally safe schools. That means no guns in America’s schools. Period.”
— NRA President Wayne LaPierre, on C-SPAN in 1999.

Anonymous said...



“I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman,” Obama said in 2008. “Now, for me as a Christian—for me—for me as a Christian, it is also a sacred union. God’s in the mix.”


JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

rrb you forget james doesn't believe in God's will, just his own. He follows his heart which he believes is God.

and don't forget he's a "pastor"

ROFLMFAO !!!

Commonsense said...

I see Dennis still can't follow a thread.

commie said...

Menstral can't find his own ass in the dark with....

I see Dennis still can't follow a thread.

Whatever you say, asshole!!!!

PNC said...

If our nation's law enforcement entities weren't being directed by Der Fuhrer to put so much unnecessary focus on illegal immigrants who are causing no harm, they might have caught a white supremacist before he killed 17 high school students.

Blood on every Republican hand.
Voting for Trump = MURDER.

Anonymous said...

I am happy when Jane agrees with the NRA. Since Jane brought it here. Let me correctly qoute Wayne.

" NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre addressed the issue in a speech at the 1999 NRA National Convention, stating: “First, we believe in absolutely gun-free, zero tolerance, totally safe schools. That means no guns in America’s schools, period, with the rare exception of law enforcement officers or trained security personnel. We believe America’s schools should be as safe as America’s airports. You can’t talk about, much less take, bombs and guns onto airplanes. Such behavior in our schools should be prosecuted just as certainly as such behavior in our airports is prosecuted.”
Jane an armed and trained teacher is a security personel.
Ty for being pro gun

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

But the Republicans had also mentioned Papadopoulos in their memo as well as the reason a counterintelligence operation was initiated. They did however, argue that the dossier "fueled" the investigation moving forward.

In other words, the Republican claim that the unverified Steele dossier was used to fuel the FBI counterintelligence operation after it was initiated. The Democrats countered by demanding that the investigation was not initiated by the Steele dossier (something that was not in dispute). Again, another classic strawman logical fallacy.

Your straw man is a logical fallacy by your own making. You are claiming, despite the evidence and the timeline, an (assumptions). The dossier, that didn't enter into the investigation until September. Papadopoulos was the motivation for the investigation. It triggered the investigation in July..

The Democrats and the FBI were not colluding with each other, but in your "mind",oh yes they are!

James said Emma Gonzales said...

Florida student to NRA and Trump: 'We call BS'

(CNN)Emma Gonzalez, a senior at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, addressed a gun control rally on Saturday in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, days after a gunman entered her school in nearby Parkland and killed 17 people.
Below is a full transcript of her speech:

We haven't already had a moment of silence in the House of Representatives, so I would like to have another one..... Thank you.

Every single person up here today, all these people should be home grieving. But instead we are up here standing together because if all our government and President can do is send thoughts and prayers, then it's time for victims to be the change that we need to see. Since the time of the Founding Fathers and since they added the Second Amendment to the Constitution, our guns have developed at a rate that leaves me dizzy. The guns have changed but our laws have not.

We certainly do not understand why it should be harder to make plans with friends on weekends than to buy an automatic or semi-automatic weapon. In Florida, to buy a gun you do not need a permit, you do not need a gun license, and once you buy it you do not need to register it. You do not need a permit to carry a concealed rifle or shotgun. You can buy as many guns as you want at one time.

I read something very powerful to me today. It was from the point of view of a teacher. And I quote: When adults tell me I have the right to own a gun, all I can hear is my right to own a gun outweighs your student's right to live. All I hear is mine, mine, mine, mine.

Instead of worrying about our AP Gov chapter 16 test, we have to be studying our notes to make sure that our arguments based on politics and political history are watertight. The students at this school have been having debates on guns for what feels like our entire lives. AP Gov had about three debates this year. Some discussions on the subject even occurred during the shooting while students were hiding in the closets. The people involved right now, those who were there, those posting, those tweeting, those doing interviews and talking to people, are being listened to for what feels like the very first time on this topic that has come up over 1,000 times in the past four years alone.

I found out today there's a website shootingtracker.com. Nothing in the title suggests that it is exclusively tracking the USA's shootings and yet does it need to address that? Because Australia had one mass shooting in 1999 in Port Arthur (and after the) massacre introduced gun safety, and it hasn't had one since. Japan has never had a mass shooting. Canada has had three and the UK had one and they both introduced gun control and yet here we are, with websites dedicated to reporting these tragedies so that they can be formulated into statistics for your convenience.

I watched an interview this morning and noticed that one of the questions was, do you think your children will have to go through other school shooter drills? And our response is that our neighbors will not have to go through other school shooter drills. When we've had our say with the government -- and maybe the adults have gotten used to saying 'it is what it is,' but if us students have learned anything, it's that if you don't study, you will fail. And in this case if you actively do nothing, people continually end up dead, so it's time to start doing something.

James said...

We are going to be the kids you read about in textbooks. Not because we're going to be another statistic about mass shooting in America, but because, just as David said, we are going to be the last mass shooting. Just like Tinker v. Des Moines, we are going to change the law. That's going to be Marjory Stoneman Douglas in that textbook and it's going to be due to the tireless effort of the school board, the faculty members, the family members and most of all the students. The students who are dead, the students still in the hospital, the student now suffering PTSD, the students who had panic attacks during the vigil because the helicopters would not leave us alone, hovering over the school for 24 hours a day.

There is one tweet I would like to call attention to. So many signs that the Florida shooter was mentally disturbed, even expelled for bad and erratic behavior. Neighbors and classmates knew he was a big problem. Must always report such instances to authorities again and again. We did, time and time again. Since he was in middle school, it was no surprise to anyone who knew him to hear that he was the shooter. Those talking about how we should have not ostracized him, you didn't know this kid. OK, we did. We know that they are claiming mental health issues, and I am not a psychologist, but we need to pay attention to the fact that this was not just a mental health issue. He would not have harmed that many students with a knife.

And how about we stop blaming the victims for something that was the student's fault, the fault of the people who let him buy the guns in the first place, those at the gun shows, the people who encouraged him to buy accessories for his guns to make them fully automatic, the people who didn't take them away from him when they knew he expressed homicidal tendencies, and I am not talking about the FBI. I'm talking about the people he lived with. I'm talking about the neighbors who saw him outside holding guns.

If the President wants to come up to me and tell me to my face that it was a terrible tragedy and how it should never have happened and maintain telling us how nothing is going to be done about it, I'm going to happily ask him how much money he received from the National Rifle Association.
You want to know something? It doesn't matter, because I already know.

Thirty million dollars.

And divided by the number of gunshot victims in the United States in the one and one-half months in 2018 alone, that comes out to being $5,800. Is that how much these people are worth to you, Trump? If you don't do anything to prevent this from continuing to occur, that number of gunshot victims will go up and the number that they are worth will go down. And we will be worthless to you.

To every politician who is taking donations from the NRA, shame on you.

Crowd chants, shame on you.

James said...

If your money was as threatened as us, would your first thought be, how is this going to reflect on my campaign? Which should I choose? Or would you choose us, and if you answered us, will you act like it for once? You know what would be a good way to act like it? I have an example of how to not act like it. In February of 2017, one year ago, President Trump repealed an Obama-era regulation that would have made it easier to block the sale of firearms to people with certain mental illnesses.

From the interactions that I had with the shooter before the shooting and from the information that I currently know about him, I don't really know if he was mentally ill. I wrote this before I heard what Delaney said. Delaney said he was diagnosed. I don't need a psychologist and I don't need to be a psychologist to know that repealing that regulation was a really dumb idea.

Republican Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa was the sole sponsor on this bill that stops the FBI from performing background checks on people adjudicated to be mentally ill and now he's stating for the record, 'Well, it's a shame the FBI isn't doing background checks on these mentally ill people.'

Well, duh. You took that opportunity away last year.

The people in the government who were voted into power are lying to us. And us kids seem to be the only ones who notice and our parents to call BS.Companies trying to make caricatures of the teenagers these days, saying that all we are self-involved and trend-obsessed and they hush us into submission when our message doesn't reach the ears of the nation, we are prepared to call BS.

Politicians who sit in their gilded House and Senate seats funded by the NRA telling us nothing could have been done to prevent this, we call BS.

They say tougher guns laws do not decrease gun violence. We call BS.

They say a good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun. We call BS.

They say guns are just tools like knives and are as dangerous as cars. We call BS.

They say no laws could have prevented the hundreds of senseless tragedies that have occurred. We call BS.

That us kids don't know what we're talking about, that we're too young to understand how the government works. We call BS.

If you agree, register to vote. Contact your local congresspeople. Give them a piece of your mind.

(Crowd chants) Throw them out.

Teresa Dulyea-Parker said...

James Boswell of Normal is a pedophile.

James said...

Cowardly Loretta and cowardly KD can falsely use other people's assumed names to call me a pedophile all they want (which everyone knows I am not), but that does not answer what Emma Gonzales said and what I hope the youth of our land keep saying.
--the Rev. James Boswell

James said Politico said...

The NRA Battles Florida Republicans on Gun Control

“The National Rifle Association, equipped with a vaunted political email list and support from passionate single-issue voters, is gearing up to take on Florida Gov. Rick Scott and GOP leaders as they tee up a rarity in Florida lawmaking: GUN CONTROL LEGISLATION,” Politico reports.

“The central question for Republicans as the state’s legislative session enters its final weeks is whether the NRA, which opposes the GOP-written measures, will get rolled by a collection of lawmakers it helped get elected.”

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...


John Hayward‏

Setting different ages for voting, drinking, gun ownership, military service, etc. sends confusing signals about the vital relationship between rights and responsibilities. One unified age of adulthood would be more logical.


I see someone agrees with me.

Also saw NRA memberships are surging. Left doesn't seem to realize that people don't join the NRA for discounts to corporations... but dropping NRA relationships will punish those corporations who do.

WILL TURN INTO EPIC FAIL

ROFLMFAO !!!


Commonsense said...

So Democrats only want the bad guys to have guns in school. That's not a good look.

"Truth be told, we are all in uncharted territory," said state Rep. Evan Jenne (D-Dania Beach). "The NRA has written every piece of gun legislation for damn near 25 years."

He said he is voting against the House's bill because it "puts more guns in schools."

Commonsense said...

Attorney General Pam Bondi is investigating Sheriff Yellow Steak for dereliction of duty.

In her appearance on Fox and Friend she continually cited the investigation as the reason that she couldn't answer their questions.

But her barely contained fury was self-evident.

commie said...

menstral the cramp.....

Attorney General Pam Bondi is investigating Sheriff Yellow Steak for dereliction of duty.


Hope she is more competent than trey gowdy....at least she's prettier than alfred e newman ears.....LOLOLOL


And yes, it is another partisan `witch hunt....

Commonsense said...

Really? Four deputies cringed behind their cars listening to 15 children and 2 adults being murdered.

They fail to do their sworn duty and you say any investigation into the responsibly of the sheriff is a "political witch hunt"?

Go to hell Dennis.

James said...

Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., said he expects to talk soon with Trump, who has said he wants tougher background checks, as Toomey revives the bill he proposed earlier with Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., to expand presale checks for firearms purchases online and at gun shows.

First introduced after the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in 2012 in Connecticut, the measure has twice been rejected by the Senate. Some Democrats in GOP-leaning states joined with Republicans to defeat the measure. Toomey's office said he is seeking to build bipartisan support after the latest shooting.

"Our president can play a huge and, in fact, probably decisive role in this. So I intend to give this another shot," Toomey said Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press."

The Senate more likely will turn to a bipartisan bill from Sens. John Cornyn, R-Texas and Chris Murphy, D-Conn., to strengthen FBI background checks — a response to a shooting last November in which a gunman killed more than two dozen people at a Texas church.

That bill would penalize federal agencies that don't properly report required records and reward states that comply by providing them with federal grant preferences. It was drafted after the Air Force acknowledged that it failed to report the Texas gunman's domestic violence conviction to the National Criminal Information Center database.

The House passed it last year, but only after GOP leaders added an unrelated measure pushed by the National Rifle Association. That measure expands gun rights by making it easier for gun owners to carry concealed weapons across state lines.

The package also included a provision directing the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to review "bump-stock" devices like the one used during the shooting at a Las Vegas music festival that left 58 people dead and hundreds injured.

Murphy told The Associated Press he was invited to discuss gun issues with the White House and he was interested in hearing the president's ideas. He said he did not expect the Florida shooting to lead to a major breakthrough in Congress for those who've long pushed for tighter gun laws.

"There's not going to be a turning point politically," he said. Rather, it's about "slowly and methodically" building a political movement.

Senate Democrats say any attempt to combine the background checks and concealed-carry measures is doomed to fail.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said he was skeptical Trump would follow through on proposals such as comprehensive background checks that the NRA opposes.

"The real test of President Trump and the Republican Congress is not words and empathy, but action," Schumer said in a statement. He noted that Trump has a tendency to change his mind on this and other issues, reminding that the president has called for tougher gun laws only to back away when confronted by resistance from gun owners. The NRA's independent expenditure arm poured tens of millions into Trump's 2016 campaign.

"Will President Trump and the Republicans finally buck the NRA and get something done?" Schumer asked. "I hope this time will be different."

Commonsense said...

The elephant in the room is that Cruz would have passed the "tougher" background check just as he passed the current check.

Because the FBI and Broward County Sheriff didn't do their jobs to begin with.

Tougher background checks are not much more than "feel good" legislation that will do little if any good.