Monday, July 16, 2018

Has Mueller actually found anything?

As most people are aware,  the first Mueller indictments of the thirteen Russian citizens and three Russian companies (one which doesn't exist) came from a previously published Russian magazine article, that listed the same people and same crimes.

Now it appears that the Russian Nationals he indicted came from the House intelligence report authored by Kevin Nunes. The same allegations and the same names can be found in that report. The House report was widely criticized and ignored because it did not offer any evidence of collusion.

Of course neither of the Russian indictments offered by Mueller suggests any American involvement. In fact, Rosenstein made it clear that no Americans were impicated in either indictment. The fact that both cases are being "handed off" would suggest that Mueller is not seeing a connection. If he believed these people were working with Americans, it would make no sense to pass this off.

 After all, the very idea of collusion is that two parties were involved. You cannot logically charge one person of collusion with someone without charging the other. At least not without changing the meaning. So, if he was going to offer more indictments of these Russians along with Americans, he would certainly not run separate prosecutions.

So, once again this looks like a P.R. move as much as anything. Designed in large part to give his allies talking points.

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Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The moment called for Trump to stand up for America. He chose to bow.
https://wapo.st/2zTCm3F

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

A prediction.

CH will find that the President was correct to surrender to the Russians because the investigation into the Russian intervention into the election was a construction of lies motivated by partisan politics and Putin was not involved.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Despite this

REPORTER: “Did you want President Trump to win the election? And did you direct any of your officials to help him do that?”

PUTIN: “Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Because he talked about bringing the U.S.-Russia relationship back to normal.”

Myballs said...

Trump believes the corrupt deep state did more to rig the election than russia. So far he has been right about everything else.

Anonymous said...

Roger, I wanted the Eagles to Win the Super Bowl. Using your liberal mind. I Colluded with Philly to beat the Patriots.

Anonymous said...

Roger, I wanted the Eagles to Win the Super Bowl. Using your liberal mind. I Colluded with Philly to beat the Patriots.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You actually believe that the FBI/DOJ and CIA and others conspired to destroy Donald Trump's.

You're nuts.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

GOP Sen. Ben Sasse (Neb. A deep state conspirator

blasted President Trump's handling of a joint press conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin, saying Monday that every senator should be "disgusted" by the Finland summit.

"The problem that needed to be named today was Vladimir Putin. Instead, our president decided to advance a fake moral equivalency that plays right into ... Vladimir Putin's bloody hands. Everyone in this body should be disgusted by what happened in Helsinki," Sasse said from the Senate floor.



He added that Monday "was a terrible day for the American brand, for the American people and our allies."

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Throughout his presidency — and during the raucous, seven-day swing throughout Europe that concludes Monday — Trump has upended long-standing relationships with allies and dismissed the importance of multinational alliances while embracing strongmen who had traditionally been adversaries of the United States. 

Then he took the word of Putin over every single intelligence agency agency.

commie said...

KD said...
Roger, I wanted the Eagles to Win the Super Bowl

You being an abject trump fellator continues unabated as donnie throws you and america under the bus.....find a new hobby, like work....asshole..

Anonymous said...




If anyone can recall a performance by a U.S. president that rivaled the one seen around the world Monday, let them come forward.


so... dan balz and his merry band of asshats were in a coma for the entire 0linsky presidency?

i don't think this thread could hold all of the embarrassing examples of skets throwing america under the bus.


commie said...

o... dan ball and his merry band of asshats were in a coma for the entire 0linsky presidency?

So rat the giant asshole shooting blanks just like trump....Most corrupt admin evah!!!!!

commie said...

Even the outlier and biased rasmussen is showing signs of trump heading south!! We shall see if this trend holds in the next few days...

President Trump Job Approval Rasmussen Reports Approve 45, Disapprove 54 Disapprove +9

Down 7 in the past week!!!!!!

Myballs said...

Maybe if Trump walked out with a reset button snd told putin that he'll have more flexibility after his re-election, the Trump haters would be less hysterical.

And i love the short memories. It wasnt so long ago that obama forcefully claimed russia could never have affected our election.

commie said...

in that he'll have more flexibility after his re-election, the Trump haters would be less hysterical.

No wonder I call you a loser with idiocy ....BTW.....when Obama made that declaration, nothing had been uncovered yet.....but, he had the FBI working the issue.....more than trump is now with the incriminating evidence russia fucked with him and wanted him to win..... The whole story in spite of the losers cherry picked claim....sad..

President Barack Obama said it was nearly impossible to rig an election during a joint press conference with Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi only around a couple months ago.

He is now punishing Russia for allegedly doing what he previously said was unfeasible.

“I’ve never seen in my lifetime or in modern political history any presidential candidate trying to discredit the elections and the election process before votes have even taken place,” Obama said, in response to comments then-Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump made. “No serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America’s elections.”

President-elect Donald Trump said during a campaign rally in Columbus, Ohio, in August that he was afraid the election was going to be rigged, citing, amongst other things, the fact that the Democratic National Committee colluded to make former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton the nominee instead of Senator Bernie Sanders.


Obama’s comments came only around two weeks after he officially blamed Russia for leaking sensitive emails. Obama expelled 35 Russian officials Thursday as part of larger set of sanctions on the country.

And btw asshole....affected is a whole lot different than meddling......try to learn the difference....LOL

Anonymous said...


Blogger Roger Amick said...

It's a quote.



everything you post is a quote, alky. you haven't posted an original thought since you got your second hand liver.



Anonymous said...

Anonymous Myballs said...
Maybe if Trump walked out with a reset button snd told putin that he'll have more flexibility after his re-election, the Trump haters would be less hysterical.



and bowed in the process. that was a nice touch.


commie said...

and bowed in the process. that was a nice touch.


You mean like trump put on his knee pads for Putin??????

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