91% Reporting (final delegate count is shown)
| Candidate | Votes | Percent | Delegates | |
| Sanders | 72,343 | 25.9 | 9 | |
| Buttigieg | 67,714 | 24.2 | 9 | |
| Klobuchar | 55,447 | 19.8 | 6 | |
| Warren | 25,919 | 9.3 | 0 | |
| Biden | 24,317 | 8.7 | 0 | |
- Slow Joe Biden under 8%?
- Looks like he will finish under 9%
- Michael Bennett just dropped out. For sure!
- Will Warren and Biden get shut out for delegates?
- Yes Warren and Biden will get shut out for delegates!
- Signs point to Patrick dropping out as well (or not)?
- Disappointing for Gabbard who at one time was polling in the top 4
- Oh and btw... Trump won the Republican Primary with 86% of the vote!
- Bernie wins the popular vote in first two states!
- Mayor Pete will have a delegate lead! Bernie fans seethe!
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| Glass of Hennessy on primary night! |
73 comments:
For many months the Trusted National Polls had Biden as the Leader of the Dwarfs.
That is in stark contrast to actual voting.
Poor dizzy lizzy.
Good early numbers for Klobuchar. If they hold up, she's a viable candidate at least through Super Tuesday.
Biden may hang on through South Carolina, but even if he wins there (which I doubt) I think he's done.
Also, I don't see a path for Warren going forward, unless it's to try and keep some of the far-left vote away from Sanders.
More interesting right now are the down-ballot fights. Warren or Biden for 4th? Gabbard, Yang or Steyer for 6th? Bennet or Patrick for 9th?
More interesting right now are the down-ballot fights. Warren or Biden for 4th? Gabbard, Yang or Steyer for 6th? Bennet or Patrick for 9th?
Bennett and Yang dropped out! Does that mean that Gabbard, Patrick, and Steyer are the winners?
Bennet is within 2 votes of Patrick right now.
Bennet is within 2 votes of Patrick right now.
I wonder how many people are following this?
There was a Twitter poll earlier on the Bennet-Patrick race. Over 1,000 votes. Patrick was a narrow winner, I think with 53.6%.
Perhaps if Patrick wins this key battle, he will remain in the race!
The Sanders-Buttigieg-Klobuchar race is going to be the real story tonight, but we won't really know where that is headed until we get up to 65%-75% and also have results from places like Nashua.
If Patrick stays in, he could be the only candidate from Massachusetts left when the state votes on Super Tuesday. ;-)
The conventional wisdom is that Buttigieg Klobuchar and Biden share the same lane... while Sanders and Warren have their own lane. If you buy into that, the "moderate" lane is doing most of the damage...
That being said, I really think Buttigieg is in a lane of his own. Biden and Klobuchar are the establishment well known "electable" candidates... Buttigieg doesn't fill any of that.
It will be very interesting once Mini-Mike gets on the ballot. He is running ads here in Minnesota like every five seconds (not that I am that impressed with his message).
Biggest Failures of the night.
Biden
Warren
They really should gracefully exit stage left.
at 44% Sanders still leads by 4.3% and 5800 votes!
538 is expecting it to close, however.
CHT
living in Kansas but near Mo., we get a daily dose of mini-mike tv blitz ads.
His economic ads look like Trump lite.
I think the concept of "getting it done" would be fine if people thought we were in trouble and the country was a mess... but people are statistically as happy as they have been in a couple of decades and very happy with their financial situation.
The only way you beat Trump is not by trying to beat him at that game, but by trying to make it into an ethics or morality contest. Democrats and other anti-Trump voters are upset by his personality (not his results).
Bloomberg doesn't really rise above that.
Whoa. Sestak is challenging Booker and Castro for 11th place. Three votes separating them now.
I would expect that the best "type" of Candidate to defeat Trump would be someone who isn't bringing an "economic" or "change" message. I would offer that you are looking for someone who offers an "anti-corruption" message.
Bloomberg brings up the "chaos" vs "steady leadership" argument, but his time as New York Mayor was not exactly steady or chaos free...
I actually think someone boring like Klobuchar might be the best sort of candidate to take him on. Even Buttigieg might be sappy (Opie Taylor) enough to pull it off is he wasn't such a closet socialist (who also happens to be gay).
Opps!
@DevalPatrick said he and his wife are going to go home tonight and “make some decisions” tomorrow morning about future of campaign. Said he needed the “winds of from New Hampshire to carry us on”
Steyer in 6th, Gabbard in 7th. Disappointing for Gabbard who at one time was polling in the top four in New Hampshire.
14% of Republicans voted against Trump? There's still hope for the republic!
14% of Republicans voted against Trump?
Bill Weld got 9% - he is a North Eastern State Governor. I suppose if he was going to do well anywhere it would be up there. But you never know if there are Democrats who decided to cross over just to vote against Trump! Who knows, they may have not felt that there was enough Democrats to choose from!
Surprisingly close. Still, a good night for Sanders, and he's well positioned to win Nevada as well. Buttigieg did quite well, as did Klobuchar, but they effectively split the anti-Sanders vote. Both will be a factor at least through Super Tuesday. And of course, Bloomberg starts getting votes on Super Tuesday, and nobody knows what effect that will have on the race.
Biden and Warren likely make their do or die stands in South Carolina and Nevada, respectively. Most likely both campaigns die, but fwiw I like Warren's prospects more than Biden's.
My fellow Americans, we face a national emergency. Never before have we had a president so utterly lacking in personal integrity, so able to lie and abuse his powers with such impunity and so blindly backed by an amoral party, an unscrupulous attorney general and a media-fund-raising juggernaut. It is an engine of raw power that will cram anything the president says or does right down your throat.
James Carville had it exactly right when he noted on “Morning Joe” the other day that the only thing standing in the way of lasting damage by this machine to all that makes America unique and great is the Democrats’ nominating the right person to defeat Donald Trump.
We have to get this right. This is no ordinary time, no ordinary Republican Party, no ordinary incumbent, and it will require an extraordinary Democratic machine to triumph.
Because, without doubt, Russia and China also will be “voting” Trump 2020 — for three reasons:
(1) Trump keeps America in turmoil and unable to focus on building the infrastructure we need to dominate the 21st century the way we did the 20th.
(2) Both Beijing and Moscow know that Trump is so disliked by America’s key allies that he can never galvanize a global coalition against China or Russia.
And (3) both Russia and China know that Trump is utterly transactional and will never challenge them on human rights abuses. Trump is their chump, and they will not let him go easily.
So who is the right Democratic candidate? Well, for starters I will tell you who it is not. It is not Bernie Sanders. On which planet in the Milky Way galaxy is an avowed “socialist” — who wants to take away the private health care coverage of some 150 million Americans and replace it with a gigantic, untested Medicare-for-All program, which he’d also extend to illegal immigrants — going to defeat the Trump machine this year? It will cast Sanders as Che Guevara — and it won’t even be that hard.
Yes, the failures of American capitalism to deliver inclusive growth, which have propelled the Sanders campaign and animated his followers, require urgent attention by our next president. But Sanders, in key cases, has the wrong solutions to the right problems. He’s the wrong candidate to take down Trump.
Please, Democrats, don’t tell me you need Sanders’s big, ill-thought-through, revolutionary grand schemes to get inspired and mobilized for this election. You want a revolution? I’ll give you a revolution: four more years of Donald Trump, unencumbered by the need to get re-elected. That will be a revolution! And it will do permanent damage to the institutions and norms that have sustained this country since its founding, not to mention our environment, which Trump has been selling off to oil, gas and mining companies at an alarming pace.
So, who is the right candidate and what is the right strategy?
On strategy, we know the formula that works, because it already has: Appeal to independents, moderate Republicans and suburban women. These are the constituencies that did not like Hillary Clinton and were ready to give Trump a chance in 2016 — but abandoned him in 2018 and delivered the House of Representatives to the Democrats, and then also two governorships in red states.
If Democrats can choose a candidate who can hold the core Democratic base and also appeal to these same independents, moderate Republicans and suburban women in the key swing states, they can absolutely defeat Trump.
How do you do that as a candidate?
For starters, by stressing national unity, personal integrity and a willingness to pursue bipartisanship whenever the other side is ready. A lot of Americans are worried sick that Trump is tearing the country in half.
As Larry Diamond, editor of The Journal of Democracy, pointed out to me, several studies he’s been publishing show that the best way to defeat illiberal populism is not by trying to out-polarize the polarizer in chief but rather through broad, inclusive electoral strategies that pragmatically address the economic and social concerns of voters, including those who had previously voted for the populist.
That was the approach that enabled the secular opposition to defeat the party of Turkey’s autocratic president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, in municipal elections last year in Istanbul and other cities. A similar depolarizing approach powered the victory of Greece’s liberal-centrist New Democracy party over the ruling left-wing populist Syriza in national elections last year.
You also do it by repeating every hour every day — with evidence — that Trump is out to destroy Obamacare through the courts, which means eliminating its coverage for pre-existing conditions, and only the Democrats will save it and improve it.
You do it by not only talking about how to redivide the pie — which we need to do — but by also talking about how to grow the pie, how to create more taxpayers and how to inspire more innovators. Ours is a capitalist country. Americans admire successful entrepreneurs. Let’s praise job creators and risk-takers — as long as they and their companies pay their taxes. You want more and better jobs, you need more Steve Jobs.
You do it by celebrating the growing economy that Barack Obama reignited and Trump continued, while making clear that it still needs work. Too much of the Trump tax cuts have gone to companies and the most wealthy, with virtually nothing invested in infrastructure — roads, ports, schools, bandwidth, scientific research — or affordable housing, which we must have for inclusive prosperity.
You do it by hitting Trump hard on the environment, but not focusing just on “climate change,” which is an abstraction for most people. Trump is unfit to serve four more years because of how he has removed so many protections for the water and air America’s kids drink and breathe every day.
And you do it by supporting a balanced approach to immigration reform — a high wall, with a big gate.
I was glad to see candidates with this kind of message, like Amy Klobuchar and Pete Buttigieg, trending better in Iowa and New Hampshire. It showed that lots of Democrats are searching in this direction.
But there is one candidate on the Democratic side who not only has a track record of supporting all those issues but also has the resources to build a machine big enough to take on the Trump machine.
This candidate also has the toughness to take on Trump, because while Trump was pretending to be a C.E.O. on the show “The Apprentice,” this candidate was actually building one of the most admired global companies as a real C.E.O.
This candidate is not cuddly, he is not always politically correct and he will not always tell you what you want to hear — or try to outbid you on how many free services he’ll give away. He’s made mistakes, especially around stop-and-frisk policing in New York City, which disproportionately targeted black and brown men and for which he recently apologized.
His mistakes, though, have to be weighed against a record of courageously speaking out and devoting enormous personal resources to virtually every progressive cause — gun control, abortion rights, climate change, Planned Parenthood, education reform for predominantly minority schools, affordable housing, income inequality and tax reform. And he has vowed as president to focus on building black wealth, not just ending poverty.
And this candidate knows how to get stuff done — he can fight this fire at the scale of the fire. His team has for years used social networks to promote progressive issues to centrist and conservative audiences. He won’t cede the internet/Facebook/Twitter battlefield to Trump’s team, who are killers in that space.
And this candidate is now rising steadily in the polls. This candidate is Michael Bloomberg. This candidate has Trump very worried.
Yes, Sanders is also polling well against Trump, but the Trump machine has not begun to focus on him yet — it hasn’t begun bombing Facebook with ads about how Sanders honeymooned in the Soviet Union.
Sitting here today, Bloomberg — paired with a progressive vice-presidential candidate who can appeal to Sanders’s voters — has the best chance to carry the day.
In an age when political extremists go all the way, and moderates tend to just go away, Bloomberg has the right stuff — a moderate progressive with a heart of gold but the toughness of a rattlesnake — for what is going to be an incredibly big, brutal task:
MAKING DONALD TRUMP A ONE-TERM PRESIDENT.
That was
Thomas L. Friedman, opinion columnist,
in his New York Times article
"Paging Michael Bloomberg."
I couldn't have said it better myself.
Yes, the failures of American capitalism to deliver inclusive growth, which have propelled the Sanders campaign and animated his followers,
Sanders'' supporters are typically young, well off to upper middle class college educated people. They are the winners of capitalism.
Biden and Warren, so sad.
Blogger James said...
That was
Thomas L. Friedman, opinion columnist,
in his New York Times article
so was this:
One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it can also have great advantages. That one party can just impose the politically difficult but critically important policies needed to move a society forward in the 21st century.
https://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/09/opinion/09friedman.html
friedman, like you, is a fucking clod pederast.
Sanders'' supporters are typically young, well off to upper middle class college educated people. They are the winners of capitalism.
many are but not all.
there's a significant percentage of youngsters who are for bernie because they thought the "woke" thing to do was to borrow $100+K for a degree in social justice. faced with absolutely zero job prospects in their chosen field of study, they're panicked, as they're coming to the stark realization that they have no way to pay back that mountain of debt.
bernie is their best hope of having that debt forgiven, dumping the burden onto the taxpayers.
The common denominator of both groups is that they feel entitled.
absolutely. that's inherent to liberalism, and is where the hypocrisy comes in. they feel entitled to everything while at the same time responsible for nothing.
Biden and Warren are both sucking air out of New Hampshire. But I can still see a path for Biden. I see no path for Warren.
Those of us in NY know more about Bloomberg than most others. Even with his stupid outlawing of drink cups over 16 oz, he was a heluva lot better than the current jackass NYC mayor deblasio. But his gun control obsession will scare off a lot of indy voters.
If Bernie wins the nomination, I can't see a communist getting more than 20% of the electorate.
Trump won all 20 New Hampshire delegates.
Bloomberg is a true authoritarian.
Jane never did , in his own words define his "income inequality" b.s.
She will do no better with this:
tax capital income more equitably"
James, exactly how will mini mike do that?
FOUR Huge Journalistic Erro-, er, um, LIES... in 24 Hours! NYT, MSNBC, CNN, NBC
If you think the news industry’s credibility problem is bad now, you haven’t seen anything yet.
It is going to get much, much worse the closer we get to Election Day, if Tuesday’s slipshod news reporting and commentary is any indication.
The New York Times’s Maggie Haberman, for example, tweeted the following falsehood at around 5:30 p.m. Monday evening: “Republican voter registration in NH is down roughly 20k voters from 2016 to now. It’s a reminder that Trump’s increased GOP popularity is in part because in some places, the GOP registration rolls have shrunk.”
This is not only false, but it has been debunked several times. At some point, repeating the lie becomes a choice.
Earlier than that, MSNBC’s Katy Tur, who hosts a politics news show, sought to throw cold water on the strong economic numbers touted by the Trump White House, arguing that the economy is not working for the individual who spends up to 360 months paying off his car loan.
“When I ask people if they’re voting for Donald Trump, I hear about their 401(k)s a lot,” she said during a live broadcast from New Hampshire, “but there are those out there who don't have a 401(k), and there are those out there who this economy is not really working for them.”
Tur added, “They might have a job, but it's not a job that pays their bills. They can get a car, but it's a loan that will take 30 years.”
I have no idea what she is talking about. I don’t think even she knows. (What else is new?) Car loans can take anywhere between 12 and 84 months to pay off. Who are these people agreeing to 30-year car loans? (Follow up question: Are they looking to finance a new car? No reason.)
Earlier that morning, CNN’s Cristina Alesci warned viewers to be wary of recently surfaced audio of 2020 Democratic candidate Mike Bloomberg proudly promoting the stop-and-frisk policies he championed as mayor of New York City. After all, the CNN reporter claimed, as we don’t have the full audio of the former mayor’s remarks, we don’t have the full context. But this is not true. The full audio of Bloomberg’s comments has been available online since 2015.
“So, here's the thing, important context here," she said. "We don't have the full tape."
Alesci, who, by the way, is an alumna of the Bloomberg News empire, continued, “So, this is obviously snippets that have been released, the podcaster and the writer that released this sound is clearly a Bernie supporter, if you look at his twitter feed, he's very anti-Bloomberg. He's promoting a hashtag ‘#BloombergIsARacist.'"
A simple Google search brings up the full audio, which was posted shortly after Bloomberg delivered his address in 2015 at the Aspen Institute. Also, all that stuff about the alleged political affiliations of the person who posted the audio online Monday evening is irrelevant to the content of the surging 2020 candidate's past remarks.
Lastly, and relatedly, there is NBC News’s Heidi Przybyla. She shared a conspiracy theory at around 7:30 a.m. alleging that the Kremlin is responsible for making the hashtag “#BloombergIsRacist” a top-trending news topic on social media. The hashtag, which is definitely organic, cropped up Tuesday morning following the release of the Bloomberg audio. Przybyla later deleted her tweet promoting the conspiracy theory, which she had not even bothered to double-check before sharing with her 145,000 Twitter followers.
These are four major reporting errors in the span of just 10 hours.
For many in this industry, the lesson of the 2016 election does not appear to be “Do better.” It appears to be “Resist harder, by any means necessary.”
Faithless Jane.
These two andidates like Amy Klobuchar and Pete Buttigieg,are moderate Democrats in model of the last President Barack Obama's campaign.
Blogger caliphate4vr said...
FOUR Huge Journalistic Erro-, er, um, LIES... in 24 Hours! NYT, MSNBC, CNN, NBC
Again the loser of georgia posting nothing but opinions that he agrees with....>Can't think or post a cogent thought of his own...>BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Shouldn't you be selling shit that people don't need to win a contest??????? ASshole
I smacked fatty and he's still licking his wounds
I win
And the loser from geogia self fellates himself and thinks he is a big man......BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!! Dayum you are a dumb fuck!!!!!!
I posted the article by Friedman from the NYT here because it makes the Bloomberg argument so very well. You who want to accuse him of racism are up against the simple fact that most black voters are already convinced that there can be no one more racist than Devious Donald Trump.
I notice that there is not much engagement here with that actual article.
At 5:23 rrb (republican rat bastard) quotes a passage from Bloomberg out of context as if to say that Bloomberg approves of such communist dictatorshipl.
No, Bloomberg is only warning us that if and when the leadership of China put their minds to something as commendable as reducing emissions of factories and automobiles, they can carry through without the hampering opposition which we in our free society have to put up with.
Anybody with any brains should see that we should be reducing pollution but, as Friedman says, the reelection of Trump would do permanent damage to the institutions and norms that have sustained this country since its founding, not to mention our environment, which Trump has been selling off to oil, gas and mining companies at an alarming pace.
That's why we need to hit Trump hard on the environment, but not focusing just on “climate change,” which is an abstraction for most people. Trump is unfit to serve four more years because of how he has removed so many protections for the water and air America’s kids drink and breathe every day.
And we must constantly do exactly what Friedman says by repeating every hour every day — with evidence — that Trump is out to destroy Obamacare through the courts, WHICH MEANS ELIMINATING ITS COVERAGE for pre-existing conditions, and only the Democrats will save it and improve it
And not let Trump get away with lying about what he is doing with regard to pre-existing conditions, or get away with lying about taking on the pharmaceutical companies.
MIGHTY MIKE WILL GET IT DONE
DEVIOUS DONALD WON'T AND CAN'T
Well Reverend Hypocrite!
There are many polls out there showing the President gaining with minority voters, and even people like Van Jones are worried that he could do as well as double his showing with black voters (especially black males).
The fact that there is one poll (that keeps recirculating) that demands he is viewed as the devil in the black community does not make it a reality.
And let's be clear... if you are looking for someone to provide you with a "contrast" to Trump and whatever issues blacks have with him, Bloomberg is likely the "LAST" candidate one would choose to provide any separation (especially considering his callous statements and what many considered to be "racist" policies in NYC).
"the failures of American capitalism to deliver inclusive growth"
Jane , with the other two of your made up b.s. economic terms , what do you mean by the above?
Jane never did , in his own words define his "income inequality" b.s.
She will do no better with this:
tax capital income more equitably"
James, exactly how will mini mike do that?
Little problem for you, Ch. Bloomberg can effectively admit that he was wrong. Trump won't do that.
The racist level will stick to Trump and the Republicans who support him.
Not to Bloomberg and the Democrats.
Let's be clear...
Michael Bloomberg support is proof positive that Democrats would support Satan himself if they thought he might beat Trump. Bloomberg is everything Democrats rail against. Multi-billionaire, a former Republican, a man with racist tendencies, and a guy who in many ways is simply another Trump with a different letter behind his name.
Little problem for you, Ch. Bloomberg can effectively admit that he was wrong.
Sure... the I've changed at age 77 (now that I am running for President) from where I was my first 76 years of my life message!
Are you dumb enough to believe that personally, or do you just feel that Americans in general are dumb enough to believe that?
Re: 11:26
What Bloomberg said sounds very much like what Trump would have said if he had been mayor of New York City confronted by considerable black on black and black on white crime.
Remember what Trump viciously said about the teenagers (four black, one Latino) who were wrongly accused of raping a jogger.
Going after Bloomberg on racism will only expose and heighten Trump's even more blatant racism.
Example:
When asked by a reporter on Tuesday whether he would apologize to the teenagers WHO WERE EXONERATED in the Central Park Jogger case, Trump refused.
Their lawyer:
"(Trump's) rush to judgment contributed to the lynch mob mentality that resulted in these five young men being unlawfully incarcerated," and "if nothing else, he should apologize for that."
He hasn't. He won't.
You really want to go there?
You really want to go there?
You mean the argument about which New York City Billionaire is a bigger racist?
I would think that is an argument that Democrats (not Republicans) would want to avoid. I would think they would be better off putting up someone who isn't already considered racist, so there is no "comparisons" made. Lumping them together doesn't separate them.
You really are living in la la land if you think Trump isn't "already" regarded as a racist by both whites and (more importantly) by blacks.
A white supremacist racist, at that.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/inside-mike-bloombergs-big-play-for-black-voters
Ch and all you Chtroothers better read this. It shows how Bloomberg can "make it" with blacks.
MIKE WILL GET IT DONE
Gee Reverend Hypocrite...
If Bloomberg was so popular with the Blacks, why the outreach? Why would he be worried? Shouldn't he just be the savior of the minorities?
Oh yeah, record low unemployment, record high wages, less crime, and actual criminal justice reforms. Black people's lives getting tangibly better?
As opposed to stop and frisk. More cops in black communities because "they commit the crimes". 16-25 years of age. Black. Xerox it. Hand it out to cops!
I can see why he seems so desperate to undermine the successes of black people and pretend that he is their friend!
“Who can beat Donald Trump? That’s what people care about,” said former Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter, who is among the black leaders endorsing Bloomberg. Nutter says Bloomberg’s record of accomplishments outweighs the damage of flawed policing.
Lol, sure it does.
Soulless gutless baseless Fake Pastor.
Judging from the backlash on twitter, I'd say Bloomberg has a problem with black Democrat voters.
Replying to
@MikeBloomberg
"Inherited stop and frisk?" You became mayor of NYC in 2002 and ramped up its application 700% during your tenure. Disgusting liar. #BloombergIsARacist
Blogger James said...
At 5:23 rrb (republican rat bastard) quotes a passage from Bloomberg out of context as if to say that Bloomberg approves of such communist dictatorshipl.
No, Bloomberg is only warning us that if and when the leadership of China put their minds to something as commendable as reducing emissions of factories and automobiles, they can carry through without the hampering opposition which we in our free society have to put up with.
dumb fucking pederast - i was countering your thomas friedman quote with another friedman quote. one fawning over china's brutal communist dictatorship.
shit like this is what the alky usually pulls.
Dumb fucking rat idiot.....countering himself with more stupidity.....YOU WIN!!!!!!!!!! BTW how much of the cheap ass clothes you buy comes from china?????? BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
Blogger caliphate4vr said...
Replying to
@MikeBloomberg
BWAAAAAAAA!!!!! That's the R talking point you dumb fuck.....Funny how the target has changed now that the fat fuck in the oval office has another legit challenger....Funny how you ignored trump embracing the same policy....funny how you keep looking dumber every day!!!!!!! At least someone knows how to take responsibility for stupid things...unlike big mouth asshole southerners!!!!!!
"hampering opposition" Jane
You mean Freedom of WE the People .
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