Saturday, November 19, 2016

Doubling down on stupid

So the Democrats, the media, and everyone in between could not convince Americans that Donald Trump was a bigot who shouldn't be President.




So they are now attempting to declare every single appointee of the President as a bigot who shouldn't be in a Presidential administration.

At some point in time, this ceases to be honest political critique and starts to become little more than slander and libel. Either way, it's become painfully obvious that the Democrats have no other real strategy right now. No honest positive message. No future thinking political philosophy. Just demands that any politician who disagrees with them must be a bigot and that anyone who dare vote against them are also bigots.

This has not been, is not now, and never will be... a winning political strategy. But when it's all you got, it forces you to double down on stupid.

83 comments:

wphamilton said...

Maybe it's not "doubling down on stupid" as much as being rudderless and just drifting in the shoals. Who ARE the Democratic leaders now? Sanders, Warren? Sure, they're involved but we don't imagine that those two are in control of Democratic policy and strategy, not yet anyway. Ryan and Pelosi? Hardly - there is no leadership.

With the collapse and probable purge of the Clinton machine, it seems like there are a lot of echos from the campaign. Politically stupid perhaps, certainly an extension from failure, but I don't think that those echos can really be said to be the position of the Democratic Party. Give it time to shake out, and then we'll see.

Anonymous said...


AoS picked up on tucker carlson mopping the floor with that fat fuck from politico - jonathan allen who penned a piece lying about jeff sessions:

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/366951.php

Anonymous said...

At some point in time, this ceases to be honest political critique and starts to become little more than slander and libel.
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

or as dear leader likes to call it -

fake news.

Indy Voter said...

WP, good points. Democrats are poorly positioned for 2020, thanks to the wipeouts in 2010 and 2014. Kaine and Warren could be credible candidates, and maybe a couple of other senators, but they have nobody at the gubernatorial level. Most of the "old guard" is simply old, with the one exception constitutionally ineligible to run again.

I suspect Democrats will win a number of governorships in 2018, but that class of governors would be more credible for 2024.

Indy Voter said...

C.H., there are legitimate concerns about the people Trump has put in place other than Riebus. And most of those have nothing to do with whether the individual is bigoted or not.

caliphate4vr said...

AoS picked up on tucker carlson mopping the floor with that fat fuck from politico - jonathan allen who penned a piece lying about jeff sessions:

Tucker beat him like a rented mule

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He has nominated for the Secretary of Justice who has a long history of racist and opposition to the civil rights and voting rights laws. He has also come out against the Supreme Court decision that made marriage legal for all\ consulting adults.

Semmmens was nominated for a federal judge by Saint Ronald of the Reagan. He was rejected by the Republican Senate.

Pompeo is a fan of torture. I think that's an immediate disqualification. Beyond that, although he is very bright and well educated, he is a hyper partisan Tea Party winner, who was swept into the congress anti-Muslim President wave. But beyond that, I think the CIA director would be responsible dispassionate,non partisan reports to the commander in chief. .

Frye does not need approval, but he was fired for a hash temper and Collin Powell calls him a dangerous, Flynn formerly ran the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) before being ousted in 2014 for reportedly clashing with other intelligence offices and, according to Powell, being "abusive with staff" and "work[ing] against policy."

Only one is a racist and Trump picked a guy the Republicans thought he was disqualified to be a federal judge. Trump wants him to be their boss

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Double Down is Trump and it's not unexpected, he's listening to Breitbart's ghost.

And like wp said, you accepted the fact that Trump lied over half the time and you said you were not supporting him, but 2.0 was Trump Central.

Commonsense said...

Liberals fret that the police might be reading their tweets

Here's the money quote:

I realize this is going to come as a shock to some of you, but when you have a public Facebook or Twitter page and you start updating it… everyone can see that. And everyone in this case includes data miners and law enforcement officials.

I really can't believe we let people this stupid rule us for eight years.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

As to where is the Democrats new leadership, I don't know. I saw one congressman, young, articulate and southern. That is a problem going into 2020. But it is a long time. Who in hell thought Trump would be our President elect four years ago.

I kind of wonder if Trump is going to choose Mitt Romney for Sec. of State. I wouldn't be to worried about that, he's qualified. He's looking at General Mattis? WTF. Oh yeah, hes a loyalist.


Commonsense said...

He has nominated for the Secretary of Justice who has a long history of racist and opposition to the civil rights and voting rights laws.

Pray-tell when did we get a Secretary of Justice?

Is he/she in charge of safe spaces and trigger warnings?

Make sure all those special snowflakes have plenty of hot chocolate and comfort food to help them get over the shock of Trump winning?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Reuters


Facebook Inc, facing withering criticism for failing to stem a flood of phony news articles in the run-up to the U.S. presidential election, is taking a series of steps to weed out hoaxes and other types of false information, chief executive Mark Zuckerberg said in a Facebook post Friday evening.

PS: I'm not surprised, every nominee is white male.

Trump is upset because people in a play did the right thing and creiticized him. That's treason in Trump world.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

As usual, attack a minor mistake and ignore truth about the racist nominee.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

DOJ

Dumbass.

Commonsense said...

It's emblematic of you gross ignorance. The same ignorance that leads you to call Sessions a racist.

For once try to think for yourself.

Commonsense said...

And you thought Trump was in the tank for Putin.

On his way out, Obama cedes Arctic energy control to Russia

President Barack Obama is throwing up roadblocks to Donald Trump’s pledges to expand offshore drilling, with a new plan that will declare parts of the Arctic off-limits.

Obama’s Interior Department on Friday issued its final five-year road map for offshore oil and gas drilling that took two areas in the Arctic out of contention, dealing a win to environmental groups and obstructing a path to new offshore drilling in the area. The plan is vulnerable to being unraveled by Trump, who has pledged to expand oil and gas production, but it would take at least a few years for him to do so.


You couldn't have given Putin a bigger Christmas present.

C.H. Truth said...

Indy - maybe there are legitimate concerns with the Trump nominees, but all I hear is (what you heard when the adults talked on the Peanuts cartoon)

Wah wah wah racist wah wah wah bigot wah wah wah wah wah...


So far none of what I have heard is "legitimate" anymore... as accusations of racism and bigotry fall on deaf ears.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

CH, if you want to get past the racist stuff.
Pompeo, I don't know your view on waterboarding and other "enhanced interrogation techniques". But my view is that we should not use those forms of torture. He is in favor of them. He's been hyper partisan. I would want to be assured that he could present the data dispassionately.



Frye does not need approval, but he was fired for a hash temper and Collin Powell calls him a dangerous, Flynn formerly ran the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) before being ousted in 2014 for reportedly clashing with other intelligence offices and, according to Powell, being "abusive with staff" and "work[ing] against policy."l








Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Republican Sen. John McCain issued a fiery warning to President-elect Donald Trump on the subject of torture Saturday.

“I don’t give a damn what the president of the United States wants to do. We will not waterboard,” McCain told an audience at the annual Halifax International Security Forum. “We will not torture people … It doesn’t work.”


Trump has repeatedly said that he would use much harsher measures against suspected terrorists. “We have to fight fire with fire,” he said at a June campaign rally, adding that the U.S. would have to “fight so viciously and violently” against the Islamic State.

“What do you think about waterboarding?” Trump asked the crowd, which cheered his answer: “I like it a lot. I don’t think it’s tough enough.”

At a Republican primary debate in February, Trump vowed that he would “bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding.”

On Saturday, McCain reminded the audience that torture remains illegal under the Geneva Conventions and was also banned by Congress last year.

That law, signed by President Barack Obama, restricts interrogation techniques to those outlined by the U.S. Army Field Manual — which does not permit waterboarding.

Some conservatives argue that waterboarding, practiced on terrorist suspects by the Bush administration in the mid-2000s until Congress banned it in 2005, does not meet the definition of torture.

Former top national security officials, including some who served under Bush, have predicted insubordination and resignations from the military and CIA if Trump orders them to torture.

But on Friday Trump announced that he would tap GOP Rep. Mike Pompeo to head his CIA.

Pompeo has defended Bush-era interrogation programs that included waterboarding and other techniques widely defined as torture as “within the law, within the constitution.”

Anyone who tries to resume torture, McCain added to applause from the crowd of American, Canadian and European security officials and experts, would find themselves in court “in a New York minute.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/john-mccain-trump-torture-waterboarding-231668?cmpid=sf

My opinion is that he's not qualified.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump said Thursday that he is postponing his trip to Israel, just a day after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu condemned his proposal to ban U.S. travel for all Muslims.

"I have decided to postpone my trip to Israel and to schedule my meeting with @Netanyahu at a later date after I become President of the U.S.," Trump tweeted.

Myballs said...

There's an article at politico that everyone should read titled 'How the left created Trump '. I think its right on target in its analysis.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I will check it out. Link next time.

I am thinking about it.

Guess: The media coverage, that would have cost billions? I'll find it.

KD, Hillary Lost The USSC for 50 Years said...

CHT, you can always, always count on HB to make your point.


" Trump is going to be the craziest man to ever hold the office, and before it all plays out, if he hasn't started World War III and killed us all, you will regret supporting he son of a bitch. "

I saw during the Election run up that none of the Three Liberal Stooges could cite Hillary's Policies that would grow jobs (not grow the government) in the private sector, raise earnings and get people saving more.

US Savings Rate, now HB and others believe this has been a booming Economy, that the average worker is a wash in cash and doing so much better. Damn the Facts.


Aug. 31, 2012 7.10%

Today's Rate
Oct. 30, 2016 5.70%


Why IF obamanomics was killing it, is the US Savings Rate nose diving?






























Commonsense said...

There's an article at politico that everyone should read titled 'How the left created Trump '.

They didn't learn their lesson.

KD , Trump WON BIG said...

The media coverage, that would have cost billions"

You going to look up all the Free time Hillary got in positive stories vs the time Trump got in Negative stories from the press, cool, love to read that data.


Trump won on economic Issues.

Hillary had the ground game , had the positive press stories and had the money over $1 Billion. But, in the closing months she lost the election when she failed to hold press conferences to address what her policies on the Economy would be.

Trump ran a positive , low cost, HIGH Policy campaign.

KD, Trump dumps Press again said...

How Paul Krugman Made Donald Trump Possible

Liberal pundits write viciously about Trump. But they wrote viciously about Romney, McCain, Bush... and they wonder why people outside their circle stopped listening.



Karol Markowicz
08.05.16 5:00 AM ET















His convention was called “one of the worst ever.” Chris Matthews deemed him “dangerous” and “scary,” Ellen DeGeneres said “If you’re a woman, you should be very, very scared.” His opponent ran an ad against him portraying him as uniquely dangerous for women. “I’ve never felt this way before, but it’s a scary time to be a woman,” said a woman in the ad.


He was frequently called a “bully,” “anti-immigrant,” “racist,” “stupid,” and “unfit” to be president.


I’m referring, obviously, to the terrifying Mitt Romney.



A New Republic article proclaimed “Yes, Romney’s Vision for America Really Is That Scary” and the Huffington Post headline read “The Severe Danger of a Romney Presidency.” Rolling Stone explained “Why ‘President Romney’ Would Be a Disaster for Women” and Nick Kristof in The New York Times pontificated on “How Romney Would Treat Women” (spoiler alert: not well)."

darn funny, the playbook was the same , but this time it was Trumped.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

On Nov. 8, it appears, the right decided it finally had enough of this smugness. Conservative voters—including many former working-class Democrats who made the difference in key states such as Pennsylvania and Wisconsin—sent the message that they’d had enough not only of losing economically, but also of being sneered at. Trump’s rise in popularity—and ultimately his election to the presidency—should be seen as a long-building reaction to grassroots liberal activism that came to dominate the cultural landscape and claim victory after victory in the social arena, whether the issue was abortion or gay marriage or transgender rights, always accompanied by that same disdain for right-wing views as worthy of the stone age. Trump’s rise to power evolved out of this frustration, as Clinton’s campaign increasingly became an extension of liberal America’s smug-style of debate—an attitude that no longer disputed on grounds of policy or intellectual differences, but on the issue of the integrity of the right altogether.

By writing off right-wing Americans as deleterious to the ethical integrity of the country, left-wing Americans increasingly demonstrated that they hardly saw a place for the Republican Party in 21st century America at all. The ragtag nature of Trump’s campaign—delivering him to the forefront of the Republican Party while simultaneously dismantling it—only validated liberals’ righteousness. Recall that right up to election, the popular meme in the media was the conservative movement was in a state of collapse, and the liberals were dominant.

“The Left has done very well in the cultural wars in the last couple of decades” says Dalton Conley, an American sociologist and professor at Princeton University, “but there's often a backlash.”

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Yeah, there is a certain amount of disdain among some liberals, for the white working class. Some of that is self created.

Trump portrayed himself as a friend of that contingency, and the liberals are unable to recover that contingency. Partly because they are not comfortable with the changing society, and are as of now, unable to make them comfortable with the changing societal values. Obama was able to get a significant percentage of them. Clinton couldn't.

I'm not saying that it's racist, it's just the normal resistance to such changes.

KD, HB Wrong Again, like Swiss Clock Work said...

Pray-tell when did we get a Secretary of Justice?" HB

LOL @ HB Daily.

Hillary Clinton Is Now Getting Just as Much Free Media Coverage as Donald Trump


Hillary and Trump TIED ON FREE MEDIA


HB so wrong on so much so often.

KD, HB points now to a weak Oconomy said...

"Democrats who made the difference in key states such as Pennsylvania and Wisconsin—sent the message that they’d had enough not only of losing economically"

Wait, the postmortem of the massive loss by Hillary and on down the ticket was "losing economically". OMG too funny HB, that really exposes the many Sybil-like people living in your boozed soaked brain.

Commonsense said...

Trump portrayed himself as a friend of that contingency, and the liberals are unable to recover that contingency.

The night Hillary Clinton made her "deplorables" speech was the night she lost the election.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

When I was working as a carpenter in the seventies until 95 when I moved into the management and estimating office, when politics were a topic of discussion with the skilled tradesmen, some with surprisingly high level educations, I saw a lot of that reaction to change in society. That didn't enter my line of thought. I've always been quite liberal on the changes in society. That came out in large part, watching the civil rights movement. I was disgusted with the southern Democrats. I was impressed by the moderate wing of the GOP, and their support for the civil rights and voting rights movement. I voted for Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan in his first term.

But after Reagan took office, I saw that the Republican party had a hatred for the labor unions. Despite some issues, like the corruption and mafia control in some cities, I could not understand why the Republican party was determined to eliminate the power of labor in the market. What frustrated me was that a high percentage of the people who I worked with. They moved sharply right, despite the Republican determination to destroy the unions, even in the highly skilled trade unions. It seemed to me that they were voting against their best interests.

Trump was able to regain that significant percentage of the voters. And many of you saw that he was this was happening. I saw it, but didn't think it would be sufficient to get him elected.

And to address the topic of this thread, I agree that at least right now, that the Democrats are unable to find a way to get them back in the fold. There are no younger generation Democrats out there who could bring them back, that for the most part moved into the Republican party fold.

KD, " losing economically" So said HB said...

" Bitter Clingers" Obama
That was the beining of the shift.


The night Hillary Clinton made her "deplorables" speech was the night she lost the election. "

Exactly, that and now that HB has admitted she lost on Obama's Poor weak economy, when HB admitted the Obama economy was " losing economically".

Post election is when you get a slightly honest HB.

Good to see her see the light of what the Disaster Obamanomics has been to the middle/low income earner.

KD, said...

I was disgusted with the southern Democrats" HB

of Course you did, those were people like me a Proud Democrat in Kansas, conservative .

The Blue Dog Democrat was conservative, southern and right, they are no longer any of them, having been forced out by liberal wrong headed and economically retarded.

US Home Ownership is at 50 year low, that is one more nail in the Liberal failed policy cript.

KD, Trump 2nd term said...

The Liberals Bench for 2020

Biden
Hillary?
Warren
Sanders

all white , all rich , but Sanders and all far left as one can get, so sure run baby with that crew, if any of them are still alive.

Commonsense said...

Strike Hillary off the list. She's a two-time loser.

Warren will be their next great white hope.

Indy Voter said...

Douchebag, that Netanyahu story was from December 2015.

C.H. Truth said...

Bernie Sanders will be 79 years old in 2020...
Joe Biden will be 78...
Hillary is done...

Looks like it's "Goofy Elizabeth Warren" and all of her "goofy" ideas.

KD, Draft Warren 2020 begins said...

Warren will be their next great white hope. " CS

Looks like it "Goofy Elizabeth Warren" and all of her "goofy" ideas." CHT


So the three greatest minds agree, the Liberal Dems must go for the gold again with a Rich, White, Woman for President.

Dizzy Lizzy Warren would be great fun to run over like Trump ran over Hillary.

306
to
222.

Ouch

KD said...

I know it might be too soon, but, what happen to BLM in the last month or so of the Hillary Failed Run to the White House, why did she order them to stand down?

Jane, you had the drapes for the WH measured and bought for the new WH With Hillary, what do you do with those drapes sissy boy?

Indy Voter said...

I could see several senators besides Warren running. Kaine, for one. Booker sounds like someone who's testing the waters too. Not much from governors or the House, or from currently out of work pols.

OTOH, you could see a complete outsider try to hijack the Democrats in 2020, much like the Republicans got hijacked this year.

KD said...

TIME magazine listed Elizabeth Warren in 100 Most Influential People of 2015. Her net worth is estimated to be $14.5 million, including her $5 million home, retirement fund, and salaries."

Wealth is not longer a barrier to becoming President, thank god.


Has Hillary and Obama, swore not to get richer off of books and speaking arrangements in the future?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I don't see anyone on the horizon .

Commonsense said...

Since the Democrats are not really a democratic organization, it is unlikely it will be hijacked by an outsider.

It will likely be a far left insider like Warren since they learned the wrong lesson from the election.

KD, Liberals think they Won, after all they think like HB said...

Thanks goes to WIKI link and their version of "Swamp Draining",, The cause the Bernie voter to stay home or vote TRUMP. They caused Debbie wasaMan Schultz to leave with her cock tucked between her legs and for that black lady, the one that worked undercover at CNN for Clinton leaked many questions in the debates to HER pre debate, she is gone too.

So now enter Ellison, I care about his skin color or his religion, it is his hard left bias.

KD, Correction said...

So now enter Ellison, I DON'T care about his skin color or his religion, it is his hard left bias.

KD, White House not for Sale said...

I am maybe the only one that sees a connection between a drop off of Donations to the Clinton Crime Family Foundation since HER lost the election.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

It looks like Jeb Bush is having a meltdown.

I can only say that whatever his views are this morning, they might change this afternoon, and they were different than they were last night, and they’ll be different tomorrow. So I can’t comment on his views because his views seem to be ever changing depending on what crowd he’s in front of. Sounds like a typical politician, by the way…all the things Donald Trump railed against, he seems to be morphing into.



I don’t know what to believe about a guy who doesn’t believe in things. I mean he doesn’t … this is all a game. He doesn’t … his views will change based on the feedback he gets from a crowd, or, you know, what he thinks he has to do. Life is too complex. For me, I couldn’t do that. I have to believe what I believe, and if it’s popular, great, if it’s not, I try to get better at presenting my views. But shifting my views because, because it’s political to do it? That’s what politicians do in this country, that’s what Trump is trying to do right now. I find it abhorrent.

Commonsense said...

You had to go back to last August for that quote?

Boy are you desperate.

Commonsense said...

What a surprise!!

Leaked Documents Reveal Expansive Soros Funding to Manipulate Federal Elections

Leaked funding documents reveal an effort by George Soros and his foundations to manipulate election laws and process rules ahead of the federal election far more expansively than has been previously reported.

The billionaire and convicted felon moved hundreds of millions of dollars into often-secret efforts to change election laws, fuel litigation to attack election integrity measures, push public narratives about voter fraud, and to integrate the political ground game of the left with efforts to scare racial minority groups about voting rights threats.

These Soros-funded efforts moved through dozens of 501(c)(3) and (c)(4) charities and involved the active compliance with civil rights groups, government officials, and purportedly nonpartisan groups like the League of Women Voters.

The leaked documents also reveal deliberate and successful efforts to manipulate media coverage of election issues in mainstream media outlets like the The New York Times.


All that wasted money.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Pajamas?

Change your diapers.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Federalist 68, Hamilton wrote:

It was equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice... It was also peculiarly desirable to afford as little opportunity as possible to tumult and disorder. This evil was not least to be dreaded in the election of a magistrate, who was to have so important an agency in the administration of the government as the President of the United States. But the precautions which have been so happily concerted in the system under consideration, promise an effectual security against this mischief.

Oops I went back 240 years!!!!

Loretta said...

Looks like you'll always be an idiot.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Your looking in the mirror.

Commonsense said...

While we're quoting Hamilton:

The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications. Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honors in a single State; but it will require other talents, and a different kind of merit, to establish him in the esteem and confidence of the whole Union, or of so considerable a portion of it as would be necessary to make him a successful candidate for the distinguished office of President of the United States. It will not be too strong to say, that there will be a constant probability of seeing the station filled by characters pre-eminent for ability and virtue. And this will be thought no inconsiderable recommendation of the Constitution, by those who are able to estimate the share which the executive in every government must necessarily have in its good or ill administration. Though we cannot acquiesce in the political heresy of the poet who says: “For forms of government let fools contest That which is best administered is best,” yet we may safely pronounce, that the true test of a good government is its aptitude and tendency to produce a good administration.

Federalist 68.

Indy Voter said...

Boy, did Hamilton get this election wrong.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2016/11/18/trump-gets-25-million-tax-write-off-for-trump-university-settlement/#709367e05c6a

Trump Gets $25 Million Tax Write-Off For Trump University Settlement

Of course, the real cost to Mr. Trump is after tax, not before it. And most business settlements are fully tax deductible. The only part that arguably may not be here is the $1 million in penalties. But barring express non-deductibility commitments, many penalties can be deducted, too. In general, fines and penalties paid to the government are not deductible. Section 162(f) of the tax code prohibits deducting ‘‘any fine or similar penalty paid to a government for the violation of any law.’’

Despite punitive sounding names, though, some fines and penalties are considered remedial and deductible.

________________________

Bottom line? He will be able to deduct the $25 million and pay taxes on the $1 million fine by New York. So the con man got what he wanted. Although he has to pay out some money he can deduct them as a business expense.

The University was a classic bait and hook con, and without admitting guilt he gets to deduct the fine. He will NEVER release his tax statements. I am sure they would have cost him the election. The working class voters who supported him were victims of a classic con artist.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Indy, he sure did. The electoral college was based on a mistrust of the voters at the time they wrote the law. The levels of education and illiterate.

I see this as what he electoral college was designed to keep the unqualified from the office.

The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.

In my opinion, for what ever it's worth, is that unless the electoral college does not elect Donald Trump it is a failure for what it was designed to do,

wphamilton said...

Perhaps Hamilton was presuming it impossible for one Party to rig the primary to select for a candidate with only "Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity", which is reasonable so he might be forgiven for not having foreseen this election.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

They didn't anticipate parties like we have now.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Barack H. Obama, first black President of the USA
Donald J. Trump, first con artist President of the USA

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

James, I think that you are right.

Check this out.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6na3UdPp8m8/VchAGTWKi3I/AAAAAAAAFjQ/nAzvrpbOqC4HxhvPT9oUFPRW_397uzLlgCPcB/s1600/FB_IMG_1437367994077.jpg

Commonsense said...

Boy, did Hamilton get this election wrong

Oh I don't know. Say what you like about Trump, his "arts of popularity" is no small thing.

His message resonated far more with America than Clinton's "I'm entitle and Trump's unfit message".

I would say it's a peculiar strength of this union that it's simply not enough to run up the score in the heavy population centers of the east and west coast.

To be president, you have to appeal to all Americans. It's the one safeguard we have to ensure we are not a banana republic rule by "los hombres de siempra".

KD, USA USA USA said...

We have said this before about the Three Liberal Stooges, but it does need to be repeated.

The victory of Trump has been much more fun then we ever thought it would be HB has changed his icon from Hillary wins to Impeach Trump.

Their clown care has gone off the cliff and crashed like this economy and I quote HB " losing economically" at the bottom of the canyon.

So we must allow those three to rant, cry , us coloring books, pet strange dogs and wallow in the slime and as they put on their Cry Baby WE LOST baby Diaper Pins, look at them and no longer wonder how fucked up beyond all repair they are.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.

Thomas Paine.

This applies to all of you truthers.

Commonsense said...

Rather ironic when you say it.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The fewest Americans since 1973 filed for unemployment benefits last week, a sign that the U.S. labor market is getting tighter.
Jobless claims dropped by 19,000 to 235,000 in the week ended Nov. 12, which included the Veterans Day holiday, a Labor Department report showed Thursday in Washington. The median estimate in a Bloomberg survey called for an increase to 257,000. Continuing claims fell below 2 million to a 16-year low.
The biggest drop in initial claims since June suggests employers are loath to fire workers as the economy continues its modest expansion and the number of experienced applicants available for hiring remains limited. Filings for unemployment benefits have stayed below 300,000 for 89 straight weeks -- the longest streak since 1970 and a level typical for a healthy labor market.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The fewest Americans since 1973 filed for unemployment benefits last week, a sign that the U.S. labor market is getting tighter.
Jobless claims dropped by 19,000 to 235,000 in the week ended Nov. 12, which included the Veterans Day holiday, a Labor Department report showed Thursday in Washington. The median estimate in a Bloomberg survey called for an increase to 257,000. Continuing claims fell below 2 million to a 16-year low.
The biggest drop in initial claims since June suggests employers are loath to fire workers as the economy continues its modest expansion and the number of experienced applicants available for hiring remains limited. Filings for unemployment benefits have stayed below 300,000 for 89 straight weeks -- the longest streak since 1970 and a level typical for a healthy labor market.

Commonsense said...

Donald Trump won 3,084 out of 3,141 counties in the country.

But Roger would want the remaining 57 counties to dictate the fate and future of the United States.

Let that sink in.

Myballs said...

People can't file unemployment because they either already used them up or can't because they're working part time.

Commonsense said...

Democrats have lost the unemployment argument November 8.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

he number of experienced applicants available for hiring remains limited.


Anonymous Myballs said...
People can't file unemployment because they either already used them up or can't because they're working part time, can't read.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Immigration hard liners say "Trump team is preparing plans for the wall and mulling Muslim registry".

Internment camps aren't far ahead.

KD, said...

It is funny that HB is still pre- Nov 8th, in her thinking.

I quote HB " losing economically" .


2017 is going to be a very profitable year, with wealth being created and kept in the hands of those that take the risks.


Yes, WE DID BUILD IT.



KD, WHAT happened to the bowel moverment BLS said...

Last Night in ObamaNation

One Cop Was Murdered and three others were shot, one is in critical condition, with the other two expected to be make it but will be badly deformed by the bullets that rip thru their bodies.

All were ambushed.

Legacy of the current WH occupation.

Anonymous said...


hey rog, that's a cute little 'impeach trump' emoti you got there.

question for ya - why exactly should we impeach him?

KD, Interlopers go home said...

HB, why is it you have to lie , even in defeat of liberal ideas and ideals that were just roundly and soundly defeated.

The number 3 issue on the minds of the US legal Voters was Illegal Immigration, not legal Immigration.

Can you say it---- Illegals .

KD, HB promised to leave USA, IF TRUMP WON, WELL ? said...

a cute little 'impeach trump' emoti " RRB

It took the place of his Hillary wins emoti


LOL @ HB Daily

Trump can add 11 trillion in debt to the US National Debt and the liberal of today must remain silent.

94 million people are currently of working age and are not working.

The Hispanic and Black own less business today then when Obimbo took office.

People standing in food lines has 45.8 million Americans receiving food stamps.

Private Savings is at a 30 year low.

Home Ownership is at a 50 year low.

The damage done in 8 years will take at least two Trump Terms to undo.

Commonsense said...

Internment camps aren't far ahead.

Na. That's a Democrat thing.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

First: Hiring his son into a government position is the violation of a law specifically written to forbid that. Impeachable.

Second: He is facing multiple law suits. Civil action that he cannot pardon himself. But if he lies under oath, he can be Impeached for lying under oath. See, Clinton, Bill.

Third: If he allows the use of torture, he could face trial at The Hague. Impeachment would follow.

KD said...

“A new proposal by the California Water Resources Control Board aims to double the amount of water that flows from the San Joaquin River to the delta and the sea, cutting back on allocations for farms and households to save fish.”


Still, farmers in the San Joaquin Valley have reportedly expressed optimism over the prospect of having Trump on their side, following eight years of a Barack Obama presidency that placed the needs of fish over their own. The Bee notes that signs reading “Another Farmer for Trump” popped up throughout the San Joaquin Valley during the presidential campaign."


It will be nice to have President Trump get those "minds right" and put the people that own the land before a nothing fishy.

Anonymous said...


well, you have three hypotheticals up there, so that's a start. let me know when you come up with a legitimate reason that can be acted upon.

Anonymous said...

Na. That's a Democrat thing.
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just like the klan...

a democrat thing.

wphamilton said...

First: Hiring his son - He's not going to do that, not an official government position. He can have whatever advisers he wants. Non-starter

Second: He is facing multiple law suits. - Trump will just send lawyers to whatever court is hearing something and demand a continuance. No court will deny it.

Third: If he allows the use of torture - Don't you mean "directs" the use of torture? Several recent presidents have "allowed" torture, and none have been impeached for it. Trump is not going to tell his Generals to pass it down to the trenches, "torture the enemy when you need to know something".

I think that someone already said, let us know when something happens. That's probably the right tack here. Let's see what actual policy is, rather than relying on campaign sound-bites, especially Trump ones.