So from what I can gather from reading my Facebook feed of the couple hundred people I have deemed as Friends, either people think Donald Trump is the savior we needed to mend a broken country, or they believe that Donald Trump is the anti-Christ and has now been given reigns to destroy our County. What I am failing to see is much of anyone who seems upset that we will be missing out on something special because we did not elect Hillary Clinton as President.
This should not come as a surprise.
Right, wrong, or indifferent, Hillary Clinton spent very little time telling us why she should be President. At least not in comparison to how much time she spent telling us why Donald Trump should not be President. More to the point, she didn't spend much time really telling us why Donald Trump's policies would not work (or why hers would work better)... but rather she spent most of her time telling us why Donald Trump and his supporters were racist, bigoted, hateful, or just downright "deplorable".
What I can tell you of the Donald Trump supporters who happen to be on my Facebook feed, none of them are racists, bigoted, hateful, or "deplorable". If they were, then they would not be my friends. I suspect that my cross section of friends is more likely indicative of being the rule, rather than the exception here.
Donald Trump tapped into something out there that those with liberal leaning political tendencies simply do not feel. The fact that liberals and Democrats do not feel it, doesn't mean it's not real. It also doesn't give these same people the right to "judge" or simply "substitute" their own assumptions about what it is that is motivating these Trump supporters. This is especially true when your assumption is that it must be racism, bigotry, hate, or something that is otherwise "deplorable".
Identity politics is a long term problem that doesn't seem to have either a short term or long term solution, other than simply having it fail, and fail consistently. For the past eight years, people who disagree with President Obama have been accused of being a racist. Opposition to his policies were usually met with cries of overt attempts to undermine the first Black President. Both John McCain (a war hero) and Mitt Romney (a Mormon) were also widely cast out by liberals as dark racists in much the same way as Donald Trump was. This may have effectively helped Barack Obama win the Presidency for two terms, but not much else.
Democrats now sit virtually powerless. They lost the White House, they failed to win back the Senate, the GOP holds a large advantages in the House. Thirty three of the fifty state Governors are Republican, and thirty one states currently have both houses controlled by Republicans. Donald Trump will appoint the next Supreme Court Justice, and quite possible replace Ruth Ginsburg, who effectively disqualified herself as a High Court Justice with her previous inflammatory political attacks on our President elect.
If Democrats have not figured out by now that you cannot win back American by calling Americans names, then they deserve to be the minority Party. They deserve to remain there until they end their reliance on identity politics, and quit waiting for older white Americans to die and be replaced by other voters more welcoming to their policies. They need to not only appeal to, but also respect, all Americans. That starts only when they stop arrogantly assuming everyone who disagrees with them must be some sort of deplorable.
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Well, Ch, let me tell you what a "friend" of mine is saying.
I guess I find something deplorable in the following:
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Jihadists Happy About Trump's Win
Vladimir Putin, of course, spent Wednesday morning dancing in the streets of Moscow, likely with his shirt off. And, we are already learning of another foreign policy implication of Donald Trump's victory: The jihadists are delighted that he will be in the White House.
Prominent Al-Qaeda-connected cleric Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi, for example, took to Twitter to celebrate the beginning of America's collapse.
Jabhat Fateh al-Sham's Twitter account announced that, "Trump's victory is a powerful slap to those promoting the benefits of democratic mechanisms."
Trump's win also jibes with these groups' strategic vision, since they promote themselves as defenders of Sunni Islam, and Trump appears to be planning to embrace Syria's Bashar al-Assad, a Shia Alawite.
ISIS is happy for a similar reason; reduced to tatters by allied offensives and poor recruiting numbers, Trump's anti-Muslim statements play into their argument that the world is divided into only two types of people: Muslims, and those who hate Muslims. They expect their numbers to swell, and hope that The Donald will radicalize lone-wolf terrorists in Europe and the United States.
We can only hope that they are wrong.
--Bates at electoral-vote.com
None of your posts should be allowed to stand, you're deplorable.
Trump was elected because a demographic that was once called the backbone of America, who, except for Reagan, voted Democrat since FDR, voted for Trump by the millions. I refer to the working class suburban voter. Why did they do this?
It's because they are tired of being called a racist if they disagree with anything Obama has said or done.
It's because they're tired of being attacked because they support their local police.
It's because they're tired of being insulted because they still think that there are two sexes....and each should have their own bathroom.
It's because they're tired of being criticized for having the same view of marriage that Obama and Hillary both had as recently as 2012.
It's because they're tired of seeing most of the jobs created be temporary, contract, part time, or low wage service jobs.
It's because they don't like seeing their Justice department, IRS and FBI politicised.
These are people who have voted Democrat for almost a century. There's a reason why tge dems leadership bench is so thin. The dem party has become a coalition of special interest groups abd lost its core in the process.
And here's what some other "friends" of mine are reporting:
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Russia Was In Contact With Trump During Campaign
“Russia said it was in contact with President-elect Donald Trump’s team during the U.S. election campaign, despite repeated denials by the Republican candidate’s advisers that any links existed,” Bloomberg reports.
Said Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov: “There were contacts… We continue this work of course.”
Don't like to hear what those jihadists and Russians are saying, eh?
I just went to see the Bloomberg article about Russia. It says they reached out to both campaigns during the election, as always.
So James should feel free to piss off.
For being a pastor, James quite regularly breaks the 9th commandment.
Then I guess the Trump campaign should not have denied it.
Also, if they "reached out" to both campaigns, did one respond more than the other?
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Er... Commensa, since I just cited an article, if there was any "false witness" in it, it was not mine.
I lie by omission is still a lie James. If you don't know that, you shouldn't be a pastor.
You're changing contexts and we all know it. You're using the Bloomberg article about a nonissue to suggest something more.
MOSCOW, Nov 10 (Reuters) - The Russian government was in touch with members of President-elect Donald Trump’s campaign staff during the U.S. election campaign, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told the Interfax news agency on Thursday.
“There were contacts,” Interfax cited Ryabkov as saying. He did not give details.
When asked whether these contacts would now intensify after Trump’s election victory, Ryabkov said: “These working moments and follow-up on this or that matter will depend on the situation and the questions which face us. But we will of course continue this work after the elections.”
Defeated Democratic presidential contender Hillary Clinton accused Trump of being a “puppet” of President Vladimir Putin during the campaign, and U.S. officials said Russia had hacked into Democratic party emails, something Moscow denied.
Trump has said he might meet Putin before his inauguration, but Putin’s spokesman has said there are currently no plans for such a meeting.
The Russian parliament erupted in applause on Wednesday when it heard that Trump had been elected and Putin told foreign ambassadors he was ready to fully restore ties with Washington.
Ryabkov was more circumspect in his interview, saying the Russian Foreign Ministry felt no euphoria about the Republican’s win even though it wanted to normalize relations with Washington.
Ryabkov said Trump’s allies had made some tough statements about Russia during the campaign and that his ministry was therefore not harboring any rose-tinted hopes.
“We are not expecting anything in particular from the new U.S. administration,” Interfax cited Ryabkov as saying.
(Reporting by Andrew Osborn; Editing by Christian Lowe)
Russia Reached Out to Trump, Clinton Camps During Election
by Ilya Arkhipov
Russia said that it talked with the teams of Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton during the U.S. presidential election as part of routine outreach during a campaign.
Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said the Russian embassy in the U.S. held talks with the Trump camp that “were on a sufficient, responsible level.” Hope Hicks, a spokeswoman for Trump, said in an e-mail that she was “not aware” of any meetings by campaign representatives with Russian diplomats.
Ryabkov said the talks were “part of routine everyday work.” There was also “sporadic” contact with the Clinton team, though it was “not always productive,” he said. Calls to members of Clinton’s former campaign team for comment weren’t immediately returned.
Trump has said he’d welcome better ties with Russia, would be willing to cooperate with Putin to defeat Islamic State in Syria, and may even consider recognizing the Kremlin’s annexation of Crimea.
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You have to wonder what made the talks with the Trump campaign "productive" (?)
Perhaps Putin was given permission to take the Balkans?
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Don't like to hear what those jihadists and Russians are saying, eh?
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James - you know the definition of insanity has been doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
The definition of political insanity is continuing to point to the opinions of pundits who have been proven wrong, over and over and over and over and over...
Secondly... when are you going to finally admit that I was right and your pundits were all wrong?
Waiting...
10:38 Embarrassing, when the Russian foreign minister has to try to CYA for the Trump campaign.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
MOSCOW, Nov 10 (Reuters) - The Russian government was in touch with members of President-elect Donald Trump’s campaign staff during the U.S. election campaign, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told the Interfax news agency on Thursday.
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and ted the drunken murderer kennedy was in communication with the kremlin to derail the reagan election.
and there's this little gem:
As he was leaning toward Medvedev in Seoul, Obama was overheard asking for time - "particularly with missile defense" - until he is in a better position politically to resolve such issues.
"I understand your message about space," replied Medvedev, who will hand over the presidency to Putin in May.
"This is my last election ... After my election I have more flexibility," Obama said, expressing confidence that he would win a second term.
"I will transmit this information to Vladimir," said Medvedev, Putin's protégé and long considered number two in Moscow's power structure.
The exchange, parts of it inaudible, was monitored by a White House pool of television journalists as well as Russian reporters listening live from their press center.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-nuclear-summit-obama-medvedev-idUSBRE82P0JI20120326
geez rog, you're going to need several new sets of pearls to clutch and a couple fresh fainting couches to get through the trump administration.
Before the election, many Republicans were worrying that even though Trump would not become President, he had already ruined the GOP.
Now they are even more worried.
Again, they reached out to both campaigns. BFD.
More worried??
Ge brought back the Reagan Democrats! Woohoo!
Tens of thousands of demonstrators took to the streets in cities across the country Wednesday to protest Donald Trump's election victory, in mostly peaceful gatherings that nonetheless resulted in at least 124 arrests and reports of damage, vandalism and injuries in several locations.
He will divide the country as badly or worse than during the Vietnam war era.
The truthers will call for mass imprisonment.
Seig Heil
You have to wonder what made the talks with the Trump campaign "productive" (?)
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i'd say that in a word, it starts with 'respect.'
as in they seem to have respect for trump while they thought 0linsky was a feckless, cowardly assclown.
That's a direct result of the "everybody gets a trophy" culture.
They never learned to accept defeat with grace and class and work harder for the win next time.
The truthers will call for mass imprisonment.
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nah, drama queen. we just want them to stay on the sidewalk. i would hate to see a bunch of them get mowed down by a driver who felt threatened when surrounded by them
if i ever found myself surrounded by a pack of your little panty-waisted protesters i'd put the tundra in 4wd and mow them down like fucking bowling pins.
oh, and btw, and perhaps you can pass this along to the upset special snowflakes who are protesting -
this is the exact behavior that helped trump win.
so if they'd like to keep it up long enough to get him re-elected, tell them to please do.
They never learned to accept defeat with grace and class and work harder for the win next time.
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and they rush to break godwin's law in protest every time.
"Seig Heil"
LOL.
assclowns
He will divide the country as badly or worse than during the Vietnam war era.
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your boy 0linsky has already taken care of that.
black lies matter, the occupy fucktards, and all the other assorted bands of fuckwits didn't exist until after your dear leader arrived.
you only have a couple months left to 'embrace the suck' rog. then things are going to get back to normal around here.
James -
Your Party has effectively no control at any Government level. No WH. Senate. Congress. State legislatures. Governors. All dominated by the GOP.
and Trump will probably get to replace at least one Liberal from the USSC, meaning liberals will have lost the USSC for a generation....
Reality James: Democrats are the minority Party right now.
and their reaction is to blame the Russians?
and ted the drunken murderer kennedy was in communication with the kremlin to derail the reagan election.
As usual. Third grade English.
When you were failing junior high English, the Republicans went crazy over that. But now our President Elect has reached out to a brutal dictatorship for assistance in the American election, and you yawn.
Your name is Jimmy Hypothetical Racist Rodent. And you carry it with pride.
Reality James: Democrats are the minority Party right now.
and their reaction is to blame the Russians?
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we call that grasping at straws.
isn't it deliciously ironic that we have been told REPEATEDLY around here that it was the GOP who would be wandering in the political desert for 40 years?
I find it amusing that Roger blames violent protester on Trump.
In a bygone era he would have been one of those people who blamed the rape on the victim.
rog, communicating with the russians does not equate to "reaching out for assistance in the American election"
to claim it does illustrates a galactic level of intellectual dishonesty.
do you really intend on behaving like a sore loser whining toddler whose mommy just told him "NO" for four (and perhaps eight) years?
are you really that immature?
trump, beginning with his acceptance speech, has attempted to be conciliatory and graceful with those who supported his opponent. and his opponents reaction?
to start lying right out of the fucking gate, and throw temper tantrums out in the street. hardly the stuff that strong mature individuals are made of.
you can either grow up and understand the position you're in -
as CH put it:
"Your Party has effectively no control at any Government level. No WH. Senate. Congress. State legislatures. Governors. All dominated by the GOP.
and Trump will probably get to replace at least one Liberal from the USSC, meaning liberals will have lost the USSC for a generation...."
or you can act out your temper tantrums like a baby with a shit-filled diaper.
your call.
for you, rog -
"Pretty incredible to see one day after polls close and the progressive left still out in force campaigning for Trump."
—Stephen Miller
iow, keep rioting. you put trump in the white house and you'll keep trump in the white house.
I'm not sure WHY the Trump campaign would talk to the Russian government. Maybe it was when Manafort was there.
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A lot of college punks and Mexicans who don't like laws.
hey cali!
the 'stache is on the short list for sec state!
https://www.buzzfeed.com/johnstanton/secretary-of-education-ben-carson-heres-a-list-potential-tru?utm_term=.luA93Ap7v#.jhG9A5qj7
i can't think of a better guy to shitcan iran's nuke deal.
In Russia you don't own business, business owns you. So they want to talk business with Trump right at the start.
Were I Trump, I'd have been talking to Russia, China, countries all over the world to set up a Heads of State tour between now and February. What's off about a Presidential Candidate talking to foreign leaders?
While we're on the subject, were there any heads of state other than al-Sisi of Cairo calling Trump to congratulate him? At least Putin sent a telegram, someone sent a letter and there was some diplomatic channel stuff. If I were Trump, any leader including allies who couldn't be bothered to do more than tweet something just dug themselves into a hole when any negotiations come around. I've got a feeling that Trumps knows how to drive a hard bargain, and a little more respect for the United States might have helped their position when that time comes.
Obamacare Sign Ups Surge After Election
November 10, 2016By Taegan Goddard21 Comments
“The day after Donald Trump’s presidential election victory marked the strongest day of ObamaCare signups in this year’s open enrollment period so far,” The Hill reports.
“More than 100,000 people selected plans through HealthCare.gov on Wednesday, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) announced.”
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Hmmmmm.
2017 Open Enrollment in the Health Insurance Marketplace (Healthcare.Gov) started November 1st, 2016 and ends January 31st, 2017.
http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-sign-up/
correlation does not equal causation, pastor pederast. it was time for those folks to sign up again ANYWAY.
teegen goddard might just be competing for 'dumbest fuck on the interwebs.' but he would have to wrestle the crown away from you and roger.
What's off about a Presidential Candidate talking to foreign leaders?
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nothing, but the tin foil hat brigade is desperate to pin their loss on anything other than nominating a flawed candidate.
The election, the consequences, and the aftermath...
An American Tragedy
David Remnick:
“The election of Donald Trump to the Presidency is nothing less than a tragedy for the American republic, a tragedy for the Constitution, and a triumph for the forces, at home and abroad, of nativism, authoritarianism, misogyny, and racism. Trump’s shocking victory, his ascension to the Presidency, is a sickening event in the history of the United States and liberal democracy. On January 20, 2017, we will bid farewell to the first African-American President—a man of integrity, dignity, and generous spirit—and witness the inauguration of a con who did little to spurn endorsement by forces of xenophobia and white supremacy. It is impossible to react to this moment with anything less than revulsion and profound anxiety.”
read the rest... it is chilling...
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/an-american-tragedy-donald-trump
No, no, that New Yorker article has it all wrong.
Very SOON it's all going to be WONDERFUL. It's going to be BEAUTIFUL. It's going to be fixed FASTER THAN WE COULD THINK.
TRUMP WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. RICH AGAIN. STRONG AGAIN. HAPPY AGAIN. PERFECT AGAIN.
Foreign investors will knock over the Statue of Liberty getting factories and plants back into our country. And those factories and plants will forego modern technology (robots) in order to hire millions and millions of workers!!
It's JUST AROUND THE CORNER. THE WORKERS' PARADISE IS COMING!!!
read the rest... it is chilling...
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it's complete nonsense. roger has it poised to post on the legacy blog.
Complete nonsense it is not. Far from it.
Nor is Hillbilly Elegy nonsense.
Millions are reading it, and if more had read it sooner, Trump would not have been elected.
Trump is Hillary Clinton's failure, the DNC's mistake, and to a lessor extent Obama as well. When the Democrats desperately needed a leader to stop this wreck, he didn't step up.
The DNC bypassed the people to force this candidate on the party. I am proud of the American people, who pushed back against the attempted corruption of democracy, and who prevailed against the forces of corporate power, intense propaganda, and the blackmail and intimidation of those leaders who would stand against it.
Democracy won this day. You may not like the result, and I do not approve of Trump, but the fact is that the American people rejected your dishonest, incompetent but politically powerful Clinton and chose Trump. You shrugged off my warnings with smug mockery James, many times. You were wrong, your candidate was wrong, your pollsters were wrong and for the reasons that I gave you. There is nothing left to be smug about.
Can't wait for that WORKER'S PARADISE Trump has promised.
The Rust Belt is waiting.
Its unemployed workers are waiting.
Get those shuttered plants and factories UP AND RUNNING AGAIN. FAST!
Wp, you better hope your intense hatred of Hillary doesn't come back to haunt you.
Man what a broken and bitter man James is. You might even say he's DEVASTATED.
It's not hatred James, that's the difference between you and I. I don't feel anything about Hillary Clinton, beyond not wanting her to damage this country, and who knows how many individuals, more than she already has. At the most basic level, that's why Clinton lost - because anyone willing to take an honest look can see what she's done.
I think she should be in jail atoning for her crimes, but I don't expect it to happen and it's not worth expending any energy on. Not even emotional energy. Identity politics, and the emotional baggage that always comes with it, is your mistake, not mine.
You might even say he's DEVASTATED.
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roger sure is. BY A LANDSLIDE!!!
BOOM!!!
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It's not hatred James
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to a simple minded leftist, all disagreement - political or otherwise - is hate, hatred, hate speech, H8, etc.
i'm not sure of the genesis of this nonsense, i must've missed it as it was developing, but it sure has gone mainstream. the hypocrisy, which we're already starting to witness, is that criticism of trump will always be deemed justified and acceptable.
hypocrisy, bedrock, you know the rest.
roger sure is. BY A LANDSLIDE!!!
He's going to face another 12 years of humiliation.
Can't say he wasn't warned.
All together now:
KERRY BY A LANDSLIDE!!!!!!
CLINTON BY A LANDSLIDE!!!!!!
Guys, Roger didn't want Hillary to be the nominee any more than I did. He thought he was choosing the lesser of two evils. He's not devastated.
BTW, it's wrong thinking to choose the lesser of two evils. We must accept that evil befalls us, but never choose any evil at all, not if there is an alternative.
For those who "held their nose" to vote for Clinton, what has that vote gained you now? As far as the DNC knows, you were happy with your choice (after all, you voted for it) and their strategy worked with you. Don't you wish you'd voted for Stein or Johnson now, so that they'd at least know your discontent and try to avoid those mistakes in the future?
WP, why would Trump, as a candidate, be setting up a tour to meet foreign leaders after the election? That seems like something that could have waited until after the election.
It's just very odd that Russia is claiming it was in communication with Trump's campaign.
He's not devastated.
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perhaps not wp, but if you glance at the older posts, he was preaching that WE would be devastated every five minutes.
you reap what you sow.
to paraphrase obama: "WE WON!"
Why not, Indy, it IS after the election and an efficient operation sets things up in advance. But frankly I mean literally, that's what I'd be doing. Just an example, Trump wasn't setting up an itinerary. He's got flunkies for that. He was talking about something else.
Hillary is reviled in the upper echelons of Russia's government. I don't read much into the crowing in Russian state media about the Trump victory.
2:19 Wp, you expressed absolute hatred toward HRC numerous times. It was obvious.
That you think her espoused programs were not and would not be better for the country than what Trump has been touting (without many specifics), is amazing to me. She has always been for the less powerful.
The only criticism I have of her is that she should have paid more attention to the dissatisfaction of the blue collar workers of the rust belt and the financially hurting of rural America and been more willing to make clear that Wall Street has got to be held accountable for producing some form of capitalism that has a more human face, recognizing a responsibility to society as a whole, not just to boardrooms and investors.
We are facing a revolution from both the right and the left and corporate America had better start recognizing a responsibility toward ALL our people and working for the general good, even if that means less stratopheric profits for business and industry.
Trump pretends to promise something like that, but he could accomplish it only be over the dead body of the GOP power brokers, and that is not going to happen.
Its a Bloomberg article. But it says Russia reached out to both campaigns. Its a nonstory.
indy, i would venture that we have dozens of american business leaders communicating with a lot of foreign leaders all the time. GE Caterpillar, etc. do it as a matter of course.
the implication is that there's some sort of nefarious collusion in trump's case, and as it always is with the left, they never need to do more than make the claim and plant the seed.
dishonest as hell but it has never stopped them
media matters and think progress have built businesses on this behavior for chrissakes.
Don't you wish you'd voted for Stein or Johnson
With all due respect WP if you listen to Jill Stein for any length of time you would come to appreciate what a 4 alarm looney tune she really was.
What cut it for me was her absolute refusal to defend the country from terrorist attacks. One should take the oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution seriously if one aspires to high office.
And Johnson was geographically challenged. If you're a serious presidential candidate you should at least have a general idea of what Aleppo was much less where is was.
The only criticism I have of her is that she should have paid more attention to the dissatisfaction of the blue collar workers of the rust belt and the financially hurting of rural America and been more willing to make clear that Wall Street has got to be held accountable for producing some form of capitalism that has a more human face, recognizing a responsibility to society as a whole, not just to boardrooms and investors.
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uh huh. sure.
hillary had near complete backing of wall street because they suddenly saw the light of altruism and have decided they want to make LESS money, not more.
she was in goldman sachs' pocket, pastor pederast.
bought and fucking paid for.
one GS employee at her GS speech said she sounded like a GS director.
With all due respect WP if you listen to Jill Stein for any length of time you would come to appreciate what a 4 alarm looney tune she really was.
Well yeah, but it's not as if she's going to be elected. A vote is a vote, and if Jill has it someone else wants it. Guaranteed, someone is going to be looking at her votes, trying to figure out how many of them aren't for looney reasons and how to get them next time.
Guys, Roger didn't want Hillary to be the nominee any more than I did. He thought he was choosing the lesser of two evils. He's not devastated.
Just one day before the election Roger confidently wrote on this blog the "Clinton would win by a landslide of over 300 ECV's".
I know because I was the one who warned him at the time that he was going out on a limb.
“It was pretty glowing about us,” one person who watched the event said. “It’s so far from what she sounds like as a candidate now. It was like a rah-rah speech. She sounded more like a Goldman Sachs managing director.”
At another speech to Goldman and its big asset management clients in New York in 2013, Clinton spoke about how it wasn’t just the banks that caused the financial crisis and that it was worth looking at the landmark 2010 Dodd-Frank financial reform law to see what was working and what wasn’t.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/clinton-speeches-218969
She has always been for the less powerful.
She only cares about herself
I SAID she should have been less pro Wall Street. Sanders should have opened her eyes to that.
Now let's see Trump deliver on his pretended populism vis a vis Wall Street and the GOP power brokers. I, for one, will not be holding my breath.
And how long will it be before blue collar workers and rural Americans realize they've been suckered by a lying showman?
More DEVASTATING bitterness from James. What is James going to do with himself for 4 years without an ass to stick his nose up in.
That you think her espoused programs were not and would not be better for the country than what Trump has been touting (without many specifics), is amazing to me. She has always been for the less powerful.
James, Hillary is a liar and has suffered such a humiliating defeat that her platform is not even worth arguing about. She's never been actively for anything except her next political position, and now she'll not have one. Clinton will never hold a public office, and as soon as her "leverage" expires she will have no more influence in the Democratic Party. Her singular lack of achievement in any of these goals shall remain forever unblemished.
Her numerous legal problems are now those of a private citizen, unless Obama pardons her. And why should he, after she's so badly failed him and his party?
We've heard it for a year regarding every Clinton scandal, and I'll give it back to you one last time James: It's time to let it go, get over it, move on.
She only cares about herself
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exhibit A: election night.
a defeated candidate with class goes in front of the supporters and acknowledges defeat and thanks them for their support, offering words of condolences and inspiration. they don't run out the back door leaving all of their faithful in the lurch.
i heard she cried her eyes out for hours.
good.
but i'll bet she didn't cry as hard as the mom of a patriot murdered in benghazi.
James -
"Make American Great again"... sounds an awful lot like "Hope and Change" or "Change you can believe in" to me. They are both non-specific slogans that can mean whatever the hell they want to whoever decides to read into them.
After four years of "Hope and change" and four years of "Change you can believe in"... the country was left with a distinct "hope" for a new "change".
It's hard to imagine anyone who supported Obama criticizing Trump for running basically the same campaign of generalizations and non-specifics as Obama did for two elections. What did Obama "really" accomplish after eight years?
A multi-trillion dollar stimulus bill that failed.
A multi-trillion dollar health care law that failed.
A bad nuclear agreement with Iran.
Even the little social battles that were "won" were won in the courts, not in the legislation. His signature accomplishment will either die a slow death (if Democrats try to block repeal and replace) because Trump and the GOP will not move funds from other sources to keep propping it up as Obama did. It's either repealed... or it's "on it's own" which is a death sentence.
You keep touting his high approvals, and he didn't accomplish anything other than looking better in comparison to the two candidate running in this election.
Obama has set a pretty low bar, James... Trump would have to not hardly try to not bypass it.
let's take a little stroll down memory lane:
Roger Amick said...
The ECV landslide victory for Clinton is what we will see in 48 hours. Even if the polls are around 3%.
November 7, 2016 at 10:53 AM
Roger Amick said...
It's over now.
Where is the party going as the changing demographics will give the Democrats control for a generation?
November 7, 2016 at 1:22 PM
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It's not going to go that way. Clinton will top 300.
November 6, 2016 at 11:39 PM
Roger Amick said...
FBI director tells Congress review of additional Clinton emails does not change conclusion she should not face charges!
FBI Director James Comey on Sunday afternoon sent a new letter to Congress notifying members that after reviewing a new batch of emails to and from Hillary Clinton, the bureau has not "not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July with respect to Secretary Clinton."
The letter said that the review of all the email, there is no change in the July statement to Congress in July.
It's over. BOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
November 6, 2016 at 2:46 PM
Roger Amick said...
It appears that Clinton has regained the lead, post FBI. The battle states are going to be held, for the most part, by Clinton, because in most of them have local organisations, Trump does not.
It also appears that the Hispanic and Africa American contingencies are being motivated by the President, who is, more popular at this stage of his administration, than, Saint Ronald of the Reagan. The 4.9% jobless rate is also in her favor.
The coldheartedtruth folks...is the undecided voters are going with the candidate who they feel comfortable with, and that is Hillary Rodham Clinton.
ECV landslide at 312 or so.
Roger Amick said...
CH, I have been looking at 270towin and can only give, a 20% chance to Trump. If Clinton holds onto every blue state, and if she does, she only needs one of Florida, North Carolina, Nevada, or Colorado. I don't see Trump picking up any upper mid west. He gets Ohio, Indiana and Iowa, CO, and NV.
November 4, 2016 at 6:36 AM
Roger Amick said...
Like anyone with an operating brain, that excludes Mr Shoot them at the at border and let them rot in the sun, knows that Hillary Clinton is the one and only choice.
November 4, 2016 at 10:30 AM
Roger Amick said...
Just remember. If and I think when, Clinton takes Florida, the devastation begins.
November 2, 2016 at 11:45 AM
Roger Amick said...
PA average is 6%
FL a virtual tie, but the millions already cast, before emails, according to one source, said that 28% of the Republican voters, voted for Clinton.
Money in the bank.
No Florida, no Trump. Fact.
November 2, 2016 at 12:39 PM
Roger Amick said...
I disagree with that map with two differences. Because in a close election I'm keeping Clinton getting Florida and North Carolina. It's on the legacy page.
316-220
Either way, we will be swearing in the first woman President on January 20, 2017.
November 2, 2016 at 10:55 PM
let's take a little stroll down memory lane:
Made a complete ass of himself yet again
Bullshit, pedo
Made a complete ass of himself yet again
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BBBBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM!!!11!
I wasn't alone.
Sabato
Silver
New York Times
Washington Post
Even the conservative web sites.
Almost every single one.
Our constitutional republic will survive even the least qualified Presidential in history. That's what even he can't destroy.
Kiss my lily white ass.
The KKK is ecstatic.
Racist Rodents are orgasmic.
Rhetoric Versus Reality.
He said that in his first 100 days he would do these things.
1: Repeal the ACA and will take away health insurance from 15,000,000 people, and will not have a replacement.
2: He will deport 12,000,00 men, women and children. The imagery of this will draw parallels to the Nazis boarding Jews onto rail cars for the murder camps.
3: He will start building a wall along the border with Mexico. Mexico will not pay for the wall.
4: He will ban every single Muslim from entering the United States.
5: He will put every American Muslim on a watch list.
6: He will appoint a special prosecutor to investigate and put Hillary Clinton in prison. This is what a 3rd world dictatorship would do.
7: Repeal the Iran Arms Agreement.
1: Repealing ObamaCare, the ACA, without a viable replacement, he will be faced with opposition within his own party in the congressmen Senators and Governors of Republican states will find resist along with the Democrats because if millions or their residents will lose their insurance. They may claim that just wait and we will replace it, but the reality is the Republicans are deeply divided in how or even if they will want to act on health insurance at the federal level.
2 Repeal 12,000,000 people won't happen. The reality is, that because it would destroy the families of millions can't happen. States like California may grant refuge in defiance of the President. Constitutionally, that's not legal but he just won't do it.
3: We will not build a wall, Nor if we were dumb enough to look like the Soviet Empire border that he rodent wants, bodies an all, would make us look no different than the Soviets during the cold war. We can make the borders more secure and make it necessary for potential employers to verify the legality of farm workers, etc.
4: It simply won't happen.
5: This is a direct violation of the constitution, the courts would never allow it. It won't fly.
6: The DOJ and FBI have both said after extensive investigations, no laws were violated and the politics of it are truly ugly. Threatening to imprison your opponent is so third world dictatorship style, he would even have trouble finding someone other than Giuliani to do that. No Way in hell.
The states of California and Minnesota elected celebrities. They were object failures. Donald Trump is accustomed to being the boss. The office of the President is he weakest of the three branches of government. He will find it extremely frustrating.
What will be amusing in the next few weeks, is that he will be required to testify under oath on the con artist special, called Trump University. Even if it comes to that point after January 20 he will be required under law to testify in the case. Fun fun fun.
You are going to regret this far more than you can imagine.
I missed
7: Immediately cancel the nuclear agreement with Iran.
Item one, the President can't do it according to what I have read.
Two, the foreign affairs experts will tell him that it could lead to a nuclear war in the Middle East between Israel, that already has nuclear weapons and Iran. Israel will not allow that to happen, and if they believe it necessary, they would use nuclear weapons in their defense, legitimately, That could trigger World War III and it would be far more dangerous to civilization than World War II.
Roger -
You notice that "I" wasn't one of those people convinced that Hillary was going to win in a landslide. I wrote about how I felt Silver and others were wrong in North Carolina and Florida specifically... and how there were signs from early voting that Trump was going to outperform the polls.
I ran my own numbers and was spot on in my demographic breakdown (which was considerably different from how most saw the race). As it turned out, Donald Trump vastly outperformed the polls in Republican support (and slightly under-performed with independents) Neither surprised me all that much.
Here is the reality Roger... being "in the crowd" of people being wrong, still makes you wrong. Being "right" is being "right". I'd rather not follow the crowd and be right.
A multi-trillion dollar stimulus bill that failed.
DJIA when he took office, 7,000. Today, about 19,000
Losing 800,000 jobs a month. 76 consecutive months of increased employment and approximately 15.000,000 non farm jobs. If a Republican made numbers like that, you would want him on Mount Rushmore next to Saint Ronald of the Reagan.
A multi-trillion dollar health care law that failed.
Imperfect but false. about 16,000,00 Americans have health insurance than the day the law was signed. Singe payer would have been better and covered everyone at a lower cost. But Obama tried to make a law that the Republicans would work with him and make it bi partisan. The decision to deny Obama a second term, motivated to offer only amendments meant to dismantle the program. It needs work bur it is far fro a failure.
A bad nuclear agreement with Iran. Iran has agree to cease work on a nuclear weapon and dismantle the hardware. It is verified that they are complying and a nuclear war in the Middle East has been averted.
Your opinions are not backed with da5a. If you don't like something you create a alternative reality. And claim that disagreeing with the all knowing CHT, you are intellectually dishonest or just plain stupid.
I'm neither, I leave that to most of the right wing contributors.
I intentionally didn't mention you.. Your inflated ego is evident so I let it rest
Congratulations, for once you were right.
You got lucky.
But Obama tried to make a law that the Republicans would work with him and make it bi partisan.
That is an abject....fucking....lie....
I won John
Bumble to McCain
But it does look like you've moved on to stage 2 of the 7 stages of grief.
LMAO
LOL
I love messing with you guys.
You will regret buying into Trumpism.
the ACA was built on the Romney Care model in Massachusetts. Yes, it was built to try and get a few Republican votes. That's a fact, Jack.
Roger
By the standards of what the Obama economic team stated the stimulus would do and what it actually "did" - it was an abject failure. It's literally impossible to spend a trillion dollars and not have it do "anything".
The decrease in the "uninsured" is due almost entirely to the medicare expansion. Again, you hand out free stuff, people will take it. Doesn't make it good policy. Anyone could give people free stuff. But what is intellectually dishonest is to try to claim that the guts of the law (the exchange and the regulations) is a success. Even Mark Dayton admitted that the Affordable Care act is not affordable anymore.
It's been well documented that Iran has been in violation of the agreement on numerous fronts... moreover there is no 'validation' that anything they agreed to has been followed through with. It's trust without verification, not trust but verify.
You're a liar, it was passed after you lost 60 seats in the Senate, you lost Mass because of it, and cobbled together by stripping a previously passed law and inserting the ACA into said law.
You don't know what you're talking about, you're delusional. You and your messiah were rejected Tuesday, mainly because you put forth the worst candidate in hostory, for God''s sake Trump beat her.
LMAO
BTW I'm not lonely wandering around in this desert that the R's were supposed to be relegated to, according to you, since.....you've been posting. Try humblenince for once, you got schellacked and you know nothing
Damn, Bolton as possible Sec state, I wonder if my dark lord and master Cheney is available for a cabinet post
lol
Trump Restores Mention of Muslim Ban
“President-elect Donald Trump’s campaign staff temporarily redirected the webpage detailing his controversial proposal to temporarily ban Muslim immigration into the United States, one of the most divisive and controversial policy ideas of his campaign, but swiftly sought to restore it after reporter inquiries Thursday,” the Washington Post reports.
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Gotta keep those xenophobes and Islamaphobes happy, you know.
But see my 9:03 post at the very beginning of this thread.
Moreover Roger... without the Obama administration "moving" money around without congressional approval to reimburse insurance companies... rates would have risen even higher. Without the reimbursements (after Trump takes office) - those rates will continue to raise.
Even supporters of the law are arguing that it needs to be "fixed" which is to say they wanted to spend more money on subsidies and reimbursements to insurance companies to artificially keep expenses low.
What do you suppose the chances of either of those happening is now? No congressional power to do so... and a President who will not go around congress to try to save the law?
If it isn't "fixed" (and by fixed I mean if no more money is sunk into it) how does it survive, when even the advocates believe it requires fixing to keep it viable.
Sports Illustrated.
NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said he found it tough to explain President-elect Donald Trump's comments on women to his daughters, according to The New York Times.
In October, a recording surfaced of Trump bragging about sexual assault, saying he could grab women by the genitals because he was a celebrity. Trump later defended the comments as "locker-room talk."
Goodell said those types of comments would make the NFL's goal of reducing domestic violence incidents within the league more difficult. He also said it was difficult to explain to his family.
“It makes my job harder at home too,” Goodell said at the Times' DealBook conference on Thursday. “I have twin daughters and a wife so I have to explain that to them. So yes, on that front. Does it make it harder publicly? Listen, I think our country has to have more respect for one another, and we have to unite.”
NFL
Patriots' Martellus Bennett writes emotional letter to daughter after Trump election
Get to Know What Psoriatic Arthritis Is
Goodell and the NFL have come under fire for being too lenient on domestic violence after high-profile cases such as Ray Rice, Greg Hardy and more recently Josh Brown were penalized lightly.
On Thursday, Goodell noted he thinks people do not understand the complexity of domestic violence.
Goodell also said the impact of Trump's presidency on the NFL was still unknown. Some players spoke out against the newly elected president after Election Day, and Goodell affirmed their prerogative to be involved in politics, according to the Times.
Shut up
Shut up
Trump Campaign Thought They Would Lose
Yahoo News:
“RNC staffers thought Trump would win 240 Electoral College votes, 30 short of the 270 needed to win. They cautioned reporters that these numbers could change. And it was noteworthy that their projections were more optimistic than much of the public polling...
“The best data inside the Trump campaign was just as pessimistic. Even the most optimistic models run by Cambridge Analytica for Trump showed him losing”...
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Trump Was Shocked He Won
New York Times:
“For all his boisterousness during the campaign, Mr. Trump was more muted than exuberant in its aftermath, according to people who spoke with him throughout the day. His victory over Hillary Clinton caught even him by surprise:
Like Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Trump tracked the race through private polling that indicated he was headed for defeat, and he went all but silent in his apartment on Tuesday night as the returns from Florida turned in his favor.”
“A startled Mr. Trump fielded conciliatory phone calls from political dignitaries, including Republicans who resisted his candidacy, like Presidents George Bush and George W. Bush, and from Democrats with whom he may clash in office, like Nancy Pelosi, the minority leader in the House of Representatives.”
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I guess the RNC, the Trump campaign, and Trump himself didn't know about Ch's brilliant non-prognosis.
Big deal.
Plagiarized spam
She makes me laugh. Really, she does.
Spam
"let's take a little stroll down memory lane:"
Excellent, Rat.
KKK announces North Carolina ‘victory’ parade
The KKK has announced a rally in the state.
Trump, a Republican, was officially endorsed by the KKK during his campaign against Hillary Clinton, a Democrat. Trump won North Carolina on his way to winning the presidency, defeating Clinton here by nearly 5 percentage points.
Details on the rally celebrating Trump’s victory are scarce. It’s being held by The Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, which is based in Pelham – a small, unincorporated community about 45 minutes north of Burlington, near the Virginia border.
The group was behind a rally in South Carolina last year protesting the removal of the Confederate flag from the state Capitol building.
According to the group’s website, a North Carolina rally will be held Dec. 3. However, the KKK has not yet publicly announced a location or time for the rally.
The website refers to it as a “Victory Klavalkade Klan Parade” and announces in all-caps that
“TRUMP’S RACE UNITED MY PEOPLE.”
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Trump vows to be a president for all Americans
(--including and especially the KKK)
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/politics-columns-blogs/under-the-dome/article113915898.html#storylink=cpy
Internal polling indicated that Trump would win Wisconsin, although they had a hard time accepting it. Doesn't quite square with the above.
I've been seeing a LOT of articles from prognosticators trying to explain why they were so wrong, and most of them, like this one, claimed that everyone else missed it also. That's not quite right though, is it?
I recall writing a few days ago that the national polls predicted a big Clinton win, but everything else pointed to a Trump victory. So, not everyone was wrong.
LOL
I love messing with you guys.
This is what I'm always shocked about the left, even when Roger is called out on his lies, he doesn't deny them. He obfuscates and tries to change the argument. He knows he's a liar
Five Reasons for Liberals to Have Hope
As unlikely as it may seem after Trump’s win, there are signs that brighter days await Democrats and progressives.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/2016-election-good-progress-hope-liberals-progressives-democrats-214444
A couple things I have been thinking about.
1: Chuck Todd noted on his MTP show this afternoon, is that it's not Trump won getting more votes, he didn't. But what gave him the election is the electoral college. In he normally Blue mid west states, he didn't get many more votes than Romney did in 2012. But Hillary Clinton got fewer votes in Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio and Wisconsin than Obama did. She was unable to generate any enthusiasm. Trump also lost the popular vote.
2: And on the last paragraph, is the Electoral College. I know we are the United States of America. The Senate is not truly democratic. Each state, no matter how many live id the state, they get two senators.
2: We only have one national vote, for the executive branch. In the last 16 years we have had two candidates that won more votes, but lost because of the antiquated electoral college system. In the case of electing our President, the popular vote, majority rule, should choose the President. It isn't just because of those two elections in recent history, I believe in majority rule for the one and only national vote.
WASHINGTON -- What happens when the factories and the steel mills don't come back? When the coal mines fail to reopen? When both a tightfisted Congress and the government of Mexico refuse to pay for his boondoggle of a border wall?
When the president-elect, Donald Trump, takes office and has to confront inconvenient reality, how will he react? "We owe him an open mind and a chance to lead," Hillary Clinton said Wednesday, and of course she is right. But I wouldn't be honest if I pretended, at this point, to be hopeful. My fear is that the man we saw on the campaign trail is the same man we will see in the White House.
He proved to be a tremendously effective demagogue. He stunned the world by energizing and mobilizing legions of "forgotten men and women" -- white, working-class Americans living in small towns and rural areas across the nation -- who bought into his pledge to "make America great again." Instead of serious policy proposals, he gave them scapegoats: immigrants, Muslims, people of color living in "inner cities" that he imagined as circles of Dante's hell.
His promises were of the non-serious variety, in that they cannot be fulfilled.
(the article continues)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/11/09/the_american_experiment_will_soon_be_put_to_the_test_132310.html
Before This Election, Newt Gingrich Believed the Popular Vote Winner Should Be President. So did Trump.
Paul, I'm no liar. I admit being wrong in my predictions. I'm not alone by a long shot. So you better back off on that accusation. Being incorrect in political projections is not lying.
I could post ten of these cells with confirmed lies by you Trump. Don't dare me. LOL
CH would be busy deleting.
Khizr Khan, the father of a Muslim-American soldier killed in Iraq who publicly feuded with President-elect Donald Trump during the campaign, said that he has no regrets and urged Trump to bring the country together.
Khan told NBC10 Philadelphia on Thursday “without hesitation” he was sure he did the right thing by speaking out against Trump.
“As a grateful citizen of this country, whenever you see that your values, the values of this country are being challenged, it’s an obligation of all citizens, all patriots regardless of party affiliation to stand up and be counted and remind each other that we have much better values: plurality, moving forward together, equal dignity, equal protection of law,” he said. “These are the basic fundamental values and we will continue to remind each other.”
With his wife, Ghazala, at his side, Khan gave one of the most memorable speeches at the Democratic National Convention in July when he held up a copy of the Constitution and asked if Trump had even read the document and what sacrifices the businessman had made for the country. Trump responded by attacking Ghazala Khan, suggesting she had not been allowed to speak because she was a Muslim woman. She later said she did not speak because she was still emotional over her son’s 2004 death.
Khizr Khan also starred in a moving ad for Hillary Clinton’s campaign in which he asked if people like his son would have a place in Trump’s America. Trump has pledged to ban Muslims from entering the United States.
On Thursday, Khan urged the president-elect, who ran a divisive campaign, to bring the country together.
“We are disappointed, that’s not what we are expecting, but this is the time to move forward and begin to give hope to those that are distraught, disappointed, and that is the role that I wish to continue to play so that we can continue to move forward,” he said. “This nation needs to move forward, and move forward together, not divided, and that is his responsibility now, to bring us all together and move us all forward without division.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/?icid=hjx004
We are actually a Republic, not a Democracy. The Electoral College is one of many examples of deference to State's Rights.
The beauty of the Electoral College is that it forces candidates to cater to all parts of America, rather than just concentrate on the population centers. A pure popular vote election would concentrate on New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, etc... Swing states come and go throughout time. But your population centers would always garner all the attention.
Trump (for instance) won in the Midwest, won in the "rust belt", won down south, won some western states, etc... it shows an appeal to different areas of the county and different people.
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They also didn't allow women to vote. Until 1913, the legislation of the states, selected the senators. Black people were 3/5 of a person. Slavery was Constitutional.
Every other single election are determined by majority vote. Governor, mayors, etc. In a real democracy, Clinton would be the President elect.
Example: Wyoming has 3 electoral votes. If it was based on the population of the states, California would have 199 electoral college votes.
Only in America. Hamilton would be horrified.
He got his Twitter account back. Check it out.
Oh, I forgot. He's a Republican. Never mind.
Every other democratic state has majority vote determines the winner.
We are a democratic republic! Majority should rule.
(R) excuses everything.
I can provide verified quotes from Trump and Gingrich said that the electoral college is outdated.
Trump tweeted that in 2012.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-calls-electoral-college-a-disaster-during-2012-tweetstorm/
The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/266038556504494082
delicious
@realDonaldTrump Get over it. You ran a divisive campaign. Grow up. Our President should not be tweeting like bullied kid.
He didn't reply.
The tweet was "Professional protesters..Very unfair."
The electoral college commission will vote in December. Yet you think he's qualified.
Good fucking grief.
Good night.
I don't know how you can sleep knowing this.
Spam my ass bitch.
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Paul, I'm no liar. I admit being wrong in my predictions. I'm not alone by a long shot. So you better back off on that accusation. Being incorrect in political projections is not lying.
Me calling you a liar tonight had nothing to do with your horrendous political projections. It was about Bumblecare, try to keep up. And you lied your fat ass off
Roger Amick said...
I wasn't alone.
Sabato
Silver
New York Times
Washington Post
Even the conservative web sites.
Almost every single one.
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true, you weren't. but your anal-ysis differed from theirs in two key ways:
theirs was based on an actual attempt at a structural analysis of the electorate while yours was pulled from deep within your rectum...
and they weren't an asshole about it while you were.
Roger Amick said...
I can provide verified quotes from Trump and Gingrich said that the electoral college is outdated.
Trump tweeted that in 2012.
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then get busy serving them up.
and yeah, paul's right - you're a liar.
With his wife, Ghazala, at his side...
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...who must remain silent at all times for fear of dying via an "honor killing"...
and they weren't an asshole about it while you were.
And now it's whining
And now it's whining
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the gnashing of teeth and wild machinations about the electoral college have begun from the usual suspects -
Hot new liberal theory: Trump can still be defeated in the electoral college or something
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/11/10/hot-new-liberal-theory-trump-can-still-be-defeated-in-the-electoral-college-or-something/
what we're witnessing is a collection of asshats who, were we in pre-revolutionary war times, would be undyingly loyal to the king.
Liberals are ALL Children, best examples Three Liberal Stooges that spam and cry here daily.
LOL @ HB Everyday.
"PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — Another night of nationwide protests against Donald Trump's election came to a head in Portland, where thousands marched and some smashed store windows, lit firecrackers and sparked a dumpster blaze. Police termed the protest a riot and used "less lethal munitions" to help clear the streets.
Some 4,000 protesters surged into the downtown area late Thursday night with chants like "we reject the president-elect!"
Officers began physically pushing back against the crowd that at times threw objects at them as midnight approached, arresting several people and using flash-bang devices and types of smoke or tear gas to force people to disperse.
After several orders to leave, police said officers used "less lethal munitions," such as pepper spray and rubber projectiles. Live video footage showed officers firing what appeared to be the non-lethal items."
So now that they have acted like this, we know to treat them like children, time out babies.
The ADULTS are in charge again.
I'm no liar" HB
Again funny as hell stuff, yes your are and compound that you are so stupid, both politically and financially.
HB when Pres. Trump Drops your tax rate, be sure to protest don't take the cut, don't keep the money, keep sending it to the IRS, they have a special account to take in those "contributions".
in other news, al quaeda is running for DNC chair:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/keith-ellison-dnc-sanders_us_5824dfd6e4b0f616ef303153
The losers of a presidential election always complain about the electoral college and demand is be replaced by a popular vote.
But I would ask these advocates of the "popular" vote, how they would convince 3/4 of the states to disenfranchise themselves.
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.
8:45 PM - 6 Nov 2012
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We are a country of 314 million people, the most diverse nation on Earth. This is one of our greatest strengths, and it means our president must be the president of an enormously complex and varied country...Unfortunately, the current system for electing presidents does not reflect this tremendous diversity. The winner-take-all-method of allotting electoral votes means candidates must focus their efforts on just a handful of closely divided states.
Gingrich added, "America would be better served with a presidential election process that treated citizens across the country equally." Picking a president by the national popular vote, he asserted, would be in sync with "fundamental democratic principles."
http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/
Hook, line and sinker.
Complaining about the electoral college is like complaining about the weather.
Yet Roger still persist. He's stuck in the 2nd stage.
Yet Roger still persist. He's stuck in the 2nd stage.
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and acting like a child in the second grade.
Exploding the poor white myth of Trump's rise to power
New York (AFP) - The myth that only uneducated white men would vote for Donald Trump exploded in a sensational win for the maverick billionaire, a former reality star with no political experience whatsoever.
His resounding victory -- even if Hillary Clinton won the popular vote -- spotlights a wealthier and more diverse coalition of supporters than many Americans thought possible, including educated voters, women and minority voters.
To that point:
Half of all Americans making 100K+ voted for Trump
Trump won white women 53%.
Trump exceeded Romney's vote among Blacks and Americans of latin decent.
you would think that the media would smarten up and get out of the myth business, yet i fully expect them to double down.
they just can't help themselves.
CH, I toldja so:
Obama Care: I will immediately repeal and replace Obama Care.
Interview on 60 Minutes. "We will keep the coverage to pre consisting condition. We will keep parents with children, up to the age of 26."
The two are the most important issues in Obama Care. Insurance companies are increasing the cost of those two issues, because those who choose not buy insurance, do not reduce the risk to the insurance companies.
Second: Lock her up! In an interview with the Wall street journal, "I haven't given it much thought.".
This is just the beginning.
Let me add to that.
Questioned by the press in the capital building, his proposal of spending massively on infrastructure, is not on the house or Senate priority list. Between the massive tax cuts, coupled with infrastructure and military spending, the deficit will rocket.
Didn't you think that you were going to see a smaller government, conservative?
It's like the Hillary Clinton policy.
I like this. Trump isn't going to make the same mistake with Christie that Obama did with Clinton. Christie, the stupid thug according to Trump insiders, has been banished from the transition team, is unconfirmable for any Cabinet post, and would be more hindrance in draining the swamp than he'd be possibly worth. If only Obama had had the same common sense ... but that's ancient history. In this early decision, Trump is one up on Obama.
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