Wednesday, December 13, 2017

Biggest loser in Alabama upset?


Look, obviously the GOP tangibly loses a Senate seat, making it all that much harder to actually govern.  They will have through this session (Jones will probably not be certified the winner till late December, or early January) to push through the tax bill. After that, it will be rough sailing.

Furthermore, this opens up a tangible possibility of the Senate flipping to the Democrats in 2018. They would have to pretty much run the table on all close races, but at least there is a path that doesn't have to go through Ted Cruz in Texas.

On the flip side the Republicans in Congress are not having to apologize for or explain away a Senator Roy Moore, which was a trade many in the Party were obviously willing to make. In spite of the President backing Moore at the end, and the Party reinstating funding down the stretch, most of the prominent Republicans in Congress were openly against Roy Moore.

The President's gambit was unsuccessful. Yeah, he originally backed Strange, and only recently backed Moore. Furthermore, he never "really" gave a full throttle endorsement of Roy Moore, other than to say that a Republican (even Roy Moore) was better than a Democrat. Quite frankly an understandable view in the eyes of many partisans. But ultimately this was still a bit of a black eye on Trump. Knowing what he knows today, he probably would have stayed on the sidelines.

Obviously Roy Moore himself is done. This is the third time that Moore has made an unsuccessful state wide run. Quite obviously, there is no place in Alabama for Moore, and I doubt if what little popularity he has would translate well to relocation. Time for him to "ride off into the sunset" so to speak.

Also, I am sure that Senator Al Franken is cursing the result as well. Now that he will have zero company in the accused of sexual assault Senate club, whatever hopes he might have had to hang on to his seat seems to have slipped away. This morning, Governor Dayton announce a replacement for Franken (even though Franken has still not officially resigned). I think that might be a bad sign for poor Al.

But the real loser in all of this, and the guy with the most egg on his face is Steve Bannon. My how the mighty have fallen. Just a year ago Steve Bannon sat on top of the political world, with many giving him credit for orchestrating the Trump Presidential victory. Today, his influence within the Party has dwindled down to almost nothing. Nobody likes a loser, and in the case of Moore in Alabama... Bannon not just backed the loser, but became one as well.

145 comments:

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This is the best thing for the Republican party.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...


Jones locked down the votes of women with children under 18 at home by a 34-point margin, according to exit polls. He won independents by a nine-point margin, all in a state that supported Trump by nearly 28 points barely a year ago.

He didn't help anything. He had the opposite effect.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This may be more than a black eye.

If the turnout of the African American voters continues into the next election cycle and perhaps beyond, it will be a good thing for the Democrats.

C.H. Truth said...

Roger

It would be ridiculous to attempt to say that this particular election was anything other than about Roy Moore.

The only similarity to other elections (such as Virginia) is that the Democrat(s) outspent the Republican(s) by incredibly large margins... in Virginia because nobody thought it was a big deal, and in Alabama because almost nobody wanted to be actually associated with Moore. "Mooreover" (pun intended) the amount of "free publicity" in favor of Doug Jones is almost immeasurable.

So one has to keep in mind that the Democrats will not enjoy are large spending advantage in the mid-terms... and they will not be running against Roy Moore. While they can certainly "claim" momentum, I don't believe Alabama proves much other than a Roy Moore cannot get elected "anywhere" in 2017.

Anonymous said...

Congrats to Jones, he ran a perfect slime campaign, one of no evidence, but one of personal destruction. Olinky tumb print.

As any of the liberals here lime I did, what actual policies they where for, got crickets.

At some point Republicans need to learn one single thing in this era of political campaigns, go dirty and then go dirtier.

Anonymous said...

Blogger C.H. Truth said...

Roger

It would be ridiculous to attempt to say that this particular election was anything other than about Roy Moore.
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true, but let the alky bask in the glory of his "the GOP will be wandering in the wilderness for generations!!!11!" moment.

his ability to interpret a political outcome is nothing short of hilarious.


Anonymous said...

The Obama/Clinton FBI is a clear and Present danger working against this sitting President.

Anonymous said...

Roger was chasing his own tail with each new report he switched his opinion on who would win.

Priceless HB.

Anonymous said...

DID Minnesota Gov. Jump the Shark by naming Sitting Senator Al Franken's replacement?

wphamilton said...

So you don't put much credence in the exit polls that showed that a large portion of the actual voters DID consider it a referendum on Trump.

I don't blame you (I'm not confident in those exit polls) but I thought polls and hard data from polls were your thing. Are you abandoning that perspective now, or is it just this one poll?

Commonsense said...

10-4

wphamilton said...

I am pleased that it means that the Republicans' margin in the Senate has been cut in half. 51-49 now, right? Getting 2 or 3 Democratic votes might be a more attractive option now than satisfying an recalcitrant GOP fringer.

Commonsense said...

It will just inspire the Democrats to play the obstruction game more than ever.

Commonsense said...

Anyway Bannon is now persona non-grata at the white House.

The worse sin in the Trump world is failure.

Anonymous said...



schumer is already jockeying to delay tax bill vote.


Commonsense said...

That's to be expected.

If I were the AL SOS I would take my sweet time certifying the election and then I would hand the certificate to a young aid and say:

"Take a nice long walk to Washington and give this to the majority leader personally."

wphamilton said...

Democrats would likely be just fine with that, as long as it delayed the vote on the tax bill. Alabama voters do have the right to be represented in Congress, by their democratically elected Senator.

Denying them that right by rushing through a vote in his absence, would be pretty low even for special interest Republicans.

Commonsense said...

Trump is announcing an agreement on that tax cut bill.

It should be on his desk by next week.

Said people should see the cuts in their payroll taxes in February.

Commonsense said...

Alabama voters do have the right to be represented in Congress, by their democratically elected Senator.

Don't delude yourself into thinking Jones will actually represent to voters of Alabama.

If he did we would vote for the tax cut (he won't) and against federal funding for Planned Parenthood (he'll vote for it).

Anonymous said...

Alabama voters do have the right to be represented in Congress, by their democratically elected Senator.
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technically, yes. but jones will be going to serve chuck schumer. not alabama.

Anonymous said...

WP, please clear this up for me, I honestly don't know. After Jeff Sessions left that Senate Seat who has been voting in his place?

C.H. Truth said...

WP - The exit polls suggested that Trump was a more influential with Moore voters than with Jones.

- Approximately 60% of Moore voters said the main reason they voted for Moore was to support Trump, rather than Moore.
- On the flip side, about 40% of Jones said that they were voting to oppose Trump. A majority said it wasn't about Trump at all.

Logically, it suggests that many Republicans plugged their noses and otherwise voted for Moore, because of Trump. If not for those Trump supporters showing up, Moore would have lost by a lot more.

C.H. Truth said...

Democrats would likely be just fine with that, as long as it delayed the vote on the tax bill. Alabama voters do have the right to be represented in Congress, by their democratically elected Senator.

I think Alabama voters if given the chance would have preferred Luther Strange to both Jones and Moore. I am sure a majority of them will be just fine with Strange voting while he is still in the Senate.

But as we recall when Scott Brown became the 41st vote to prevent Obamacare from passing... Parties will do what they have to, in order to ram something through in spite of one Senate election.

Anonymous said...

Ty, CHT.

Anonymous said...

CA residents are not tax nearly enough, so said Gov. Jerry Brown. As he is fully supporting a tax on every mile driven. Punishing Electric Car owners.

Anonymous said...

WP,now you want democracy, god damn the humor of you is outstanding in its stupidity.

wphamilton said...

First, Strange was appointed not elected so he is NOT the choice of the voters, regardless of whether you think he might have been. Strange was rejected by Alabama Republicans, and it is unlikely that Alabama Democrats feel represented by his votes.

Secondly, Jones IS the choice of the voters and will be representing the voters as an elected Senator, regardless of whether you think that his agenda is in the interests of Alabama voters.

wphamilton said...

Approximately 60% of Moore voters said the main reason they voted for Moore was to support Trump, ... about 40% of Jones said that they were voting to oppose Trump.

So, 50% of the voters said that their main reason was a referendum on Trump.

Anonymous said...

And I January, he takes office.

C.H. Truth said...

So, 50% of the voters said that their main reason was a referendum on Trump.

Sure...

About 30% voted Republican because of Trump
About 20% voted Democrat because of Trump

I think Trump and the GOP would take that across the board in 2018.

Anonymous said...

The US Senate, US House has finished an agreed upon bill for The United States democratically elected President to sign.

Anonymous said...

The best part of the bill, the reduction in tax rate to US Businesses from punitive 35% to world advantage 21%.

wphamilton said...

I think Trump and the GOP would take that across the board in 2018.

Why do you think that? When you believe "It would be ridiculous to attempt to say that this particular election was anything other than about Roy Moore." and realize that for literally half of the voters, it was anything but, is it a sudden epiphany that the GOP LIKES those numbers?

I'm sure that the GOP WOULD like every state to have the partisan makeup of Alabama, but you're indulging in a fantasy CH. A "referendum on Trump" is going to lose seats, and I think you know that, which is why you initially denied it.

Anonymous said...

Wp, Dems are defending many more us senate seats then the few that Republicans are.

MO senate seat with fat ass slow minded McCaskill is a sure thing for Republicans. 200 % surething!!!!

wphamilton said...

The compromise on the State and Local tax deduction is a positive step, but it's still a ridiculously top-heavy tax bill and needs the examination and vote of every Senator and Representative when they finally vote on it.

If you care more about democracy that tax breaks for your richest patrons that is. I won't hold my breath on that.

Anonymous said...

Nothing makes a liberal happy about anything.

Laffer Curve.

Anonymous said...

Why Trump won. To remind them they work for US.

Anonymous said...

The compromise on the State and Local tax deduction is a positive step
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i don't think so. and i live in NY. i'm hearing a lot of people around here asking the question - "oh my gosh, are we going to lose our SALT deduction?"

my reply is - "you're asking the wrong question. you should be asking why your SALT is so high to begin with that you RELY upon the deduction. and it's high enough that you essentially are requiring non-SALT deduction states to subsidize you. hardly fair, and quite selfish when you think about it."

if we as conservatives truly want smaller government, we need to start making people pay NOW for the government they're getting. increasing the debt ceiling and handing trillions in debt to future generations is what a coward does.



Anonymous said...

Qustion, the current Democrats like to talk about a mythical creature called a "moderate". Yet, still waiting to actually see one.

commie said...

but you're indulging in a fantasy CH. A "referendum on Trump" is going to lose seats, and I think you know that, which is why you initially denied it.

Especially with the latest poll showing the donnie with a 32% approval rate, with NV and AZ looking very open, it seems the tidal wave of those voting against trump could be YUGE!!!!!!

Commonsense said...

Nevada maybe. Arizona? Not so much.

Anonymous said...

Those that pay punishing high property taxes can now thank those of us that don't for footing part of your tax bill. Thank God, it was capped at $10,000. Will the people in those HIGH tax States work to elected those that will reduce the punishing taxes?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

this is not ridiculous to say that this such as in Virginia. The changing political atmosphere is changing because of Donald Trump. He has lost every campaign where he got involved. The women vote in suburbs, the younger voters are going to be more involved again by presence of Trump. You don't seem to see how he is an anchor? It's not going to get any better. Nor is the tax changes will be popular once the people get informed. And the African Americans will be motivated by the drunk Bannon.

Commonsense said...

Ironic you should call anyone else a drunk Roger.

Anonymous said...

Priceless it is.

Anonymous said...

Obama lost how many senate and house seats in his first mid-term?

Roger, do you see the Trump collapse on that scale?

commie said...

Arizona? Not so much.

Obviously you have no idea how Az is going...Sheriff Joe is a leading name for that seat...Good....LOL

C.H. Truth said...

WP...

The make up for this election was unusual for Alabama, considering that the partisan breakdown was much closer than it normally would be. Generally Republicans hold a significant advantage, but only had a marginally advantage for this election.

I believe that was because of the fact that the Republican running was an unpopular guy who was accused by multiple women of molesting underage girls. Plenty of Republicans I am sure decided to stay home.

You can choose to believe it was "Trump" if you really want to. But don't expect me to take that opinion seriously.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Political World Changed Last Night

The party may not survive Trumpism. Look at Republican women, Hispanic, African American, and younger voters. Look in the college district last night that went for Trump, it went over 50%. Bottom line and you will never agree, Trumpism has infested the party and unless they turn on him, you are looking at a 7.5 magnitude.

They believe that the Americans spend their money on booze, movies and fast food.

C.H. Truth said...

But considering that the Alabama electorate was pretty close to 50/50 and that most of the Senate races this year will take place in red states...

When 30% of the electorate chose to vote Republican because they wanted to show support for Trump.... while 20% of the electorate chose to vote for the Democrat to vote against Trump.

I think it's a mathematically dubious claim to suggest that Moore's loss was about Trump... as Roger suggested, and which you seem to back in the "no logic behind it" knee jerk manner that we have become accustom to seeing from you.

commie said...

because of the fact that the Republican running was an unpopular guy

Who won handily in the primary which kinda tosses your theory into the scupper....LOL

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Menstra, I have 1,997 days. I can call a drunk a drunk.

I had people cheering and laughing today, and it's fun.

I'm an inspiration at the meetings. You bore everyone.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

close to 50/50

What was it on November 8th 2016?

commie said...

hat the Alabama electorate was pretty close to 50/50

In the final count CH....that a ruby red state that hasn't had a state wide D in a generation, a 50-50 split is a rather unexpected outcome that cannot be ignored along with Vs and the Ga race that was a point race in a deeply R district...With so many voting against trump, he should be worried.

Anonymous said...

Darn HB has the Republican Party wandering the woods with Hillary after the 2018 election.

James said...

Bonus Quote of the Day

“He looks like some disheveled drunk who wandered on to the political stage. He does not represent anything that I stand for.”
— Rep. Peter King (R-NY), quoted by the Washington Examiner, on former Trump adviser Stephen Bannon.

Loretta said...

"Ironic you should call anyone else a drunk Roger."

As ironic as Boswell calling out a pedophile.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

A wise Republican man said this, and I disagreed with his politics. But he was an honorable conservative. We don't have many of them around today, and Trump is the total opposite to this, in every way.

Our forebears knew that “keeping a Republic” meant, above all, keeping it safe from foreign transgressors;

Trump is destroying the G. O. P.

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Anonymous said...

Is President Trump going to "destroy" the Republican Party on the same level Obama did to the Democrat Party?

Just say'n.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

As ironic as Boswell calling out a pedophile.

If you could be sued, I would be cheering .


Even CH has said that Roger should be recognized for being successful over five years.

And

Some


People

care

that

It has been six months since my liver transplant and every doctors say I'm fine and we will meet in six months.

Anonymous said...


cheers

Commonsense said...

As ironic as Boswell calling out a pedophile.

If you could be sued, I would be cheering .


He may find the truth-in-libel doctrine somewhat problematical.

Loretta said...

"Even CH has said that Roger should be recognized for being successful over five years."

CH is a nice guy, you're a piece of shit.

Anonymous said...

Exactly, HB belives he is a multi-millionaire.

James said...

2 hrs ago

Politifact on Tuesday named the claim that Russia's election hacking is a "made-up story" as its 2017 "Lie of the Year."

The fact-checking website said that despite "a mountain of evidence" that Moscow interfered in the 2016 presidential election, President Trump continues to insist otherwise.

"Trump continually asserts that Russia's meddling in the 2016 election is fake news, a hoax or a made-up story, even though there is widespread, bipartisan evidence to the contrary," Politifact's Angie Drobnic Holan writes.

As special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into whether the Trump campaign colluded with the Kremlin has ramped up, the president and his lawyers have repeatedly said that there was "no collusion."

In an interview with NBC in May, Trump said that the concept of Russian interference was "made up" by Democrats as an "excuse" for losing the election.

"You know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story," he said at the time. "It's an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should have won ... This was an excuse for having lost an election."

Politifact writes that Trump's blanket insistence that there was "no collusion" implies that he does believe Russia interfered, just not involving him personally.

"Trump could acknowledge the interference happened while still standing by the legitimacy of his election and his presidency - but he declines to do so," Holan writes. "Sometimes he'll state firmly there was 'no collusion' between his campaign and Russia, an implicit admission that Russia did act in some capacity. Then he reverts back to denying the interference even happened."

A Tuesday poll from Quinnipiac University found that the majority of Americans believe that Trump has tried to derail the investigation, and more than half say that the Trump campaign tried to collude with Russia.

The Politifact readers' poll also chose Trump's claim as "the year's most significant falsehood."

Anonymous said...

Those bitch ing about the coming tax cuts be sure IF any positively effect you, you don't use them.

Anonymous said...

Speak of a confirmed pedophile and Jane prance in in loud heals.

Loretta said...

The pedophile would be banned anywhere else.

Anonymous said...

HB , you might have been too busy, "Dow Crashing" crashed up again today. co

Anonymous said...

Careful, his mind belives he is suing us and the ACLU is monitoring this blog.

So to all of HB's facebook co-monitors with jane's aclu monitors a message.

Booo, now got faint on the couch.

James said...

/Did someone say "pedophile"/

AN OPEN LETTER TO THE AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION:

My name is James Boswell and I am an ordained pastor in good standing with the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) in the region of Illinois and Wisconsin. Years ago I began participating in a political blog known as The Coldheartedtruth (coldheartedtruth.blogspot.com), a blog hosted by S. Scott Johnson of Minneapolis, Minnesota. I soon learned that it was a vicious blog where bad language, personal attacks, and outright racism could be found daily.

The blog host said that he discouraged those things, and whenever he did ask for greater civility with less obscenity, name calling, and personal attacks, it did get some results, but not for long. Unfortunately, he never continued making such requests, and even allowed one blogger to call our former president "a black monkey" and his wife, our First Lady, "a cheap Chicago whore," without reproaching him at all.

Because I occasionally quoted from religious articles I publish in a local newspaper, one blogger was able to discover my true identity and the church I was then serving and she put this information on the blog, repeatedly. The host should not have allowed this, but he did not intervene.

This woman hates me because I have stated that my own position regarding abortion is similar to that of the United Methodist Church’s, a position which she considers to be reprehensible. For this reason she began blatantly lying about me, stating that I had been fired by my (then) church. The truth, which I can prove by means of regional records, is that I have never in over fifty years of ministry been fired by any church which I have ever served, including the one I am serving now.

More recently one of the bloggers has begun referring to me as a pedophile, linking that slander to my real name and the name of the town where I live, thus making my address and phone number easily attainable.

As an ordained pastor, I am subject to frequent background checks which make clear that my record with regard to that accusation is totally clean: I have never, ever been accused by anyone of abusing any child.

I have asked the host of the blog to delete those slanderous, libelous references to me, slanders which several other bloggers have also made. He refuses to do so.

Now, I am not interested in making this a test case, for one simple reason. We all know that if a pastor is officially linked to pedophilia, everyone tends to assume that he/she is guilty. I myself tend to think like that whenever a pastor or priest is so charged, for there is usually a victim who is making the charge.

In my case, however, there is no victim, no victim at all, for I have never been accused by any child or parent, grandparent, or child’s relative of having committed any kind of child abuse. Again, my record is clean.

No one who reads the blog believes that accusation in the least, for if they did, they would feel obligated to report me to the authorities and to my church’s regional leadership. They have done neither because they know the charge is spurious, nothing more than a hateful epithet hurled at me.

But let us say that someone did take the charge seriously and it should somehow lead to career or employment difficulties for me. Would the blog host then be legally responsible?

Sincerely, Rev. Jim Boswell, Normal, IL
December 13, 2017 at 6:03 AM

James said...

And Commensa, do please "sue" me. it is you public duty.

Commonsense said...

I don't care to know you that closely.

Anonymous said...

This is Fantastic news.

JPMORGAN Jamie Diamond sees business doing two things for stockholders as the tax cut takes effect.

1, stock buybacks
2, higher divided pay outs

Commonsense said...

Karma.

PBS Suspends ‘Tavis Smiley’ Following Sexual Misconduct Investigation (EXCLUSIVE)

Pretty soon they're have an all women news network. At least until harassment claims go against them also.

Loretta said...

"Did someone say "pedophile"

Pedophile.

Loretta said...

"As an ordained pastor,"

"Oh, and I do indeed think teenage girls, post pubescent ones that is, can be sexy. I have always thought so."

https://coldheartedtruthblog.blogspot.com/2017/10/trump-phone-call-to-widow-recorded.html?showComment=1508608752714&m=1#c1852015223026817867"

Loretta said...

Generally aged 11–14...

"sexy"

An ordained pastor...

"sexy"

wphamilton said...

Plenty of Republicans I am sure decided to stay home. ...
So the ones that DID vote, did so predominately as a referendum on Trump. 60% of them voting to help Trump, not Moore.

Are you now saying, you DON'T think that Republicans will welcome those numbers everywhere, since (as you now say) they're only at that level because Moore was weak? Make up your mind please.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

AM I the only man who hasn't committed sexual harassment?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

No he would be a candidate endorsed by The President

Anonymous said...

You are like a child with a rattle.

Anonymous said...

Give us the names of the 20 plus whoreeds you fucked and we will find out.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

A president who would all but call Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand a whore is not fit to clean the toilets in the Barack Obama Presidential Library or to shine the shoes of George W. Bush.

This isn’t about the policy differences we have with all presidents or our disappointment in some of their decisions. Obama and Bush both failed in many ways. They broke promises and told untruths, but the basic decency of each man was never in doubt.

Donald Trump, the man, on the other hand, is uniquely awful. His sickening behavior is corrosive to the enterprise of a shared governance based on common values and the consent of the governed.

Anonymous said...

"Carlos Danger" BOP reports that his "wife" has yet to visit him in prison.

Humma be mummin' hillary and/or bill

Anonymous said...

Lol, Roget, you have cut n pasted that same work of someone else's like 7 times.

C.H. Truth said...

Are you now saying, you DON'T think that Republicans will welcome those numbers everywhere, since (as you now say) they're only at that level because Moore was weak? Make up your mind please.

You do realize that more than one thing can be true at the same time. It is not mutually exclusive to say that:

Some Republicans stayed home because they didn't care for Moore.
Some Republicans decided to vote for Moore (in spite of not liking him) to support Trump.

Or is that confusing for you?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

If you could see them you would be jealous.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Some Republicans decided to vote for Jones (in spite of not liking him) because they despise Trump.

wphamilton said...

Anyone voting for Moore, even though they don't like him, in order to support Trump would have voted for ANY Republican. It means literally nothing with respect to Trump's coat-tails.

Anonymous said...

When do we get our first spotting of the elusive mythical Democrat Senator voting for lower taxes on small business owners?

Anonymous said...

T.E.A. time is coming. Winning bigly.

Obama promise a middle and small business tax cut, but scrooge never ever delived, not even around Christmas.

You would have thought his Hoe Hoe Hoe could have s p r e a d some joy.

James said...

John McCain to Trump: Lay off the 'fake news' claims
2 hrs ago

Senator John McCain again called out President Trump for his anti-media rhetoric.

In a tweet Wednesday afternoon, McCain shared a new report from the Committee to Protect Journalists that says the number of journalists imprisoned around the world has reached 262, a new record.

The total includes 21 reporters being held on "false news" charges.

The president "must understand his harmful rhetoric only empowers repressive regimes to jail reporters & silence the truth," McCain wrote.

Trump is known for dismissing press coverage he doesn't like as "fake news."

CPJ's report was highly critical of Trump's tactics.

"President Donald Trump's nationalistic rhetoric, fixation on Islamic extremism, and insistence on labeling critical media 'fake news' serves to reinforce the framework of accusations and legal charges that allow [some foreign] leaders to preside over the jailing of journalists," it reads.
The most common reasons journalists are put behind bars around the world include "anti-state charges" and "broad and vague terror laws," according to the CPJ report.

Turkey has imprisoned the highest number of reporters at 73. China is second with 41.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment about McCain's tweet or the CPJ report.

McCain, a Republican from Arizona, has broken ranks with other members of his party and publicly criticized Trump over a variety of issues. He famously blocked passage of Trump's promised Obamacare repeal bill with a dramatic "no" vote. And he's frequently condemned Trump's attacks on the media.

"If you want to preserve -- I'm very serious now -- if you want to preserve democracy as we know it, you have to have a free and many times adversarial press," McCain said in a February interview with NBC News. "And without it, I am afraid that we would lose so much of our individual liberties over time. That's how dictators get started."

James said...

Kentucky Lawmaker Kills Himself
December 13, 2017 at 9:52 pm EST

Kentucky state Rep. Dan Johnson (R), who was under investigation for alleged sexual molestation of a teenage girl, died of a “probable suicide,” WDRB reports.

He left what appears to be a suicide note on Facebook.

James said...

TO the ACLU

Now, I am not interested in making this a test case, for one simple reason. We all know that if a pastor is officially linked to pedophilia, everyone tends to assume that he/she is guilty. I myself tend to think like that whenever a pastor or priest is so charged, for there is usually a victim who is making the charge.

In my case, however, there is no victim, no victim at all, for I have never been accused by any child or parent, grandparent, or child’s relative of having committed any kind of child abuse. Again, my record is clean.

caliphate4vr said...

close to 50/50

What was it on November 8th


Roger in 2012 Romney won Alabama with 68%, Moore running to be head justice on 'Bama's Supreme Court only garnered 52%

He's never been very well liked

As always you don't know what you are talking about

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I have to wonder if any of you understand that the President is not popular with most Republicans in D.C. They have to endure him, and for a lot of reasons they have to work with him..

They thought the decision to support Moore and they despise the street drunk Steve Bannon. And even a significant percentage of Republicans do not approve him.

The Republican party is rotting away from the party of Saint Ronald Reagan and some people believe that it might not survive. I don't think so but they could suffer a devastating defeat.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You do don't understand that Trump is a completely different from anyone else has ever been President.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...


The reason I originally endorsed Luther Strange (and his numbers went up mightily), is that I said Roy Moore will not be able to win the General Election. I was right! Roy worked hard but the deck was stacked against him!
3:22 AM - Dec 13, 2017

He never admits error.

Anonymous said...

Roger Amick said...

Some Republicans decided to vote for Jones (in spite of not liking him) because they despise Trump.
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suuuuuuuuuuuuuuure they did, alky.


Anonymous said...

When do we get our first spotting of the elusive mythical Democrat Senator voting for lower taxes on small business owners?


Maybe today,,,


CHT I love your clock on the not yet resigned AL FRANKEN.

He has gone exactly no where. From the HILL, Senator Al Franken has not boxed up his office.......

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

I have to wonder if any of you understand that the President is not popular with most Republicans in D.C.

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and i have to wonder if you understand that it was not the republicans in DC who got him elected. who gives a fuck if the well fed republicans at the national review or the heritage foundation, or the weekly standard, or the embedded government bureaucrats support him? they're not the ones who elected him.

geezus alky, every time i think you could not possibly get any fucking dumber when it comes to understanding politics you asininity reaches a new low.

trump's unpopularity with the DC GOP is something that he wears as a badge of honor. in other words genius, it's a feature; not a bug.

Anonymous said...

Kentucky state Rep. Dan Johnson (R), who was under investigation for alleged sexual molestation of a teenage girl, died of a “probable suicide,” WDRB reports.
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nice.

now if only al franken, alcee hastings, and john conyers would follow suit.

Loretta said...

"trump's unpopularity with the DC GOP is something that he wears as a badge of honor. in other words genius, it's a feature; not a bug."

The drunken creeper isn't going to understand anything.

Anonymous said...

The drunken creeper isn't going to understand anything.
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yet he insists he watched the lincoln - douglas debates on TV as a child.

Loretta said...

"yet he insists he watched the lincoln - douglas debates on TV as a child."

An exceptional child.

HA! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

Commonsense said...

In his own mind.

Anonymous said...

HB, you are about to impose a new tax upon ALL electric and hybrid vehicles in your State, how does that make you feel?

Loretta said...

"In his own mind."

He keeps trying to impress you guys, lol.

Anonymous said...

He keeps trying to impress you guys, lol.
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if he is he's doing it wrong.

needing a second hand liver because you drank the first one to ruin is not very impressive.


Loretta said...

"needing a second hand liver because you drank the first one to ruin is not very impressive."

The last thing "I'd" trade my healthy husband for is an old man I'd have to take care of...

No way Jose'!

Anonymous said...

No way Jose'!
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nice little cultural appropriation you did there. did you type that wearing a sombrero???

;->


Loretta said...

"did you type that wearing a sombrero???"

No, but I am now!

😎

C.H. Truth said...

Anyone voting for Moore, even though they don't like him, in order to support Trump would have voted for ANY Republican. It means literally nothing with respect to Trump's coat-tails.

A voter voting for a Republican (specifically any Republican) to show support for the President is exactly the definition of coat tails.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Another assault on the First Amendment

Wow, more than 90% of Fake News Media coverage of me is negative, with numerous forced retractions of untrue stories. Hence my use of Social Media, the only way to get the truth out. Much of Mainstream Meadia has become a joke! @foxandfriends

This looks an order for his believers. All criticism of the President is "Fake News"

Trumpism immunization is defeating his defeating those he supports.

Good morning. Another beautiful day in Southern California.

Anonymous said...

Another beautiful day in Southern California.

fires raging

taxes through the roof

homelessness exploding

affordable housing non-existent

illegal immigrants taking over

traffic unbearable

bullet train to head should finish off the state...

Commonsense said...

It's amusing that Roger wants to suppress Trump's first amendment rights in the name of the first amendment.

Hypocrisy Bedrock Liberalism

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Lincoln / Douglas debate lol

I have explained this time after time after time.

My liver disease that got me a transplant, that by the way, six months in, it's doing wonderfully, was necessary to save my life, was an inherited condition called polycystic liver disease.

I just love the irrational attacks on my true comments. The racist rodent bigot just can't see reality because of his irrational anger. And yes, well, the twit follows his orders .

Most Americans and most importantly the Republicans on capital hill think that he's nuts.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Oh he has the right to tweet like an idiot. But it's not becoming by the President of the United States.

Commonsense said...

Only because it hasn't been done before. Trump is a pioneer in many ways.

Anonymous said...

All criticism of the President is "Fake News"
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no, just the UNTRUE criticism. this ain't rocket science rog. if all these "mistakes" were "honest mistakes" then at least some number of them would be flattering to trump.

instead we have 100% of the msm fuck-ups being critical of trump. coincidence? doubtful.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...


Today could be the day that the internet as we know it begins a major transformation. The FCC is expected to approve a repeal of Obama-era net neutrality protections. These rules, OK'd just two years ago, were meant to keep the web open and fair and stopped big internet service providers from speeding up or slowing down traffic from specific websites and apps.

There's a big political divide on this. Democrats oppose the repeal. But the FCC is led by Republicans, and Trump appointed its chairman, Ajit Pai, who has been a critic of net neutrality rules for years. Pai wants the rules repealed to stop the federal government from "micromanaging the internet."

The telecom industry wants the repeal, saying the rules hinder innovation, but it's been loudly criticized by numerous technology companies and consumer advocacy groups, which fear a repeal would give internet providers too much control over how online content is delivered. If net neutrality is repealed, the whole issue is almost certainly headed to court.

Bye bye CHT

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump is a pioneer.

Trumpism run amok stage four mentality.

wphamilton said...

Trump has a legitimate gripe about MSM fake attack coverage! Just bad-mouthing him isn't the issue; I've bad-mouthed just about every prominent national politician myself so it would be hypocritical to say otherwise. It's what Makes America Great, the Fourth Estate and all that.

But if we're honest about it, Trump's been hit with far worse than that and it's been going on since the Republican Primaries. It's deplorable, partly because I hate dishonesty and partly because it's so unnecessary. Trump is a dim screwup to begin with IMO, with no need to make anything up to attack his policy. And if he's NOT, they have no reason to work against him that way.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
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Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

n the modern information era, mistakes are made. Shit happens.

But the underlying belief is that the media has a political bias. With the exception of Faux News, the news is unbiased reporting on the economy foreign affairs etc, on the news of the day

Anonymous said...

http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/13/technology/net-neutrality-vote-preview/index.html


post your link, alky.


Anonymous said...

HB, You drank and laid with the whores, man up, take responsibility.Stop blaming your Parents.

C.H. Truth said...

So Roger...

Just so we understand. You are completely okay with the national media writing story after story after story that end up being untrue, fabrications, distortions, or so called "mistakes" that just happen to put the original word out there of something negative towards the President.

All that is just the right of a free press to fabricate and distort as long as someone apologizes in the end.


But you have a problem with the President using social media?

Anonymous said...

With the exception of Faux News, the news is unbiased reporting on the economy foreign affairs etc, on the news of the day
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there's your howler of the day, folks.

so unbiased that retractions and corrections are legion, and ABC's brian ross has the month off without pay, and cnn can't seem to go one fucking day without a mea culpa.

THAT unbiased.

good one alky!

Anonymous said...

But you have a problem with the President using social media?
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because it's "unbecoming" a president or something.

this, coming from a guy who worshipped at the altar of "president selfie stick."



Anonymous said...

Bye bye CHT
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you must be among the dumb fucks who believe they'll have to start paying $1.99 per google search.

no wonder you're frightened alky. the sheer volume of your copy/pastes will put you in the fucking poor house.

wphamilton said...

These aren't just reporters making mistakes. Not just mistakes. Time and again, the reaching to criticize to a ridiculous extent, with fabricated "facts" that are often dubious on the face of it. I believe that to a man (woman) they are deliberately compromising journalism as an ends-justified means. It is precisely as foolish of them as is Trump's constant bs, and for precisely the same reason. Nobody takes them seriously.

cowardly king obama said...


The mainstream media is sometimes honest about what they do.

For instance there is that Anderson Cooper assistant who tweeted the true feelings of CNN.

Then again the explanation for that is ridiculous and tells a lot. The apple does not fall far from the banana.

Anonymous said...




President Trump has “empower[ed]” rogue regimes around the world to imprison journalists on charges of “fake news,” by complaining about fake news from the White House, according to Sen. John McCain.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/john-mccain-blames-trump-for-media-arrests-over-fake-news/article/2643414



mcpappy needs to go home, get comfortable, and prepare to meet his maker.

this kind of idiocy does not serve the citizens of arizona at all.


Anonymous said...

I believe that to a man (woman) they are deliberately compromising journalism as an ends-justified means
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it's stage 4 TDS. these people are rabid in their efforts to remove this president.

even at the expense of their last shred of credibility.

wphamilton said...

you must be among the dumb fucks who believe they'll have to start paying $1.99 per google search.

Well I'm not one of those, and I think this net neutrality reversal is a short-sided cynical sellout. What this means is that, a year or two down the road (if not sooner) if I want to ramp up my internet merchant site I can't use my own resources and expect to compete any more because of bandwidth restrictions and sweetheart deals - I will be literally forced to subcontract to Amazon or Google or another big player, and pay their price following their rules, when I could literally do it all far better and more efficiently without them.

Anyone with any claim to Libertarian leanings and respect for the free market capitalism would be opposed to this.

cowardly king obama said...


Just look at how this blog couldn't run before the net neutrality rules. wait.

Well I guess it will cease to exist in the future when this happens and when the ACLU shuts down any remaining traces of the blog.

RIP CHT

Anonymous said...

Anyone with any claim to Libertarian leanings and respect for the free market capitalism would be opposed to this.
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really? by letting the government take de facto control and turn it into a quasi public utility?

sounds liberal, not libertarian to me.

look wp, i'm old enough to remember the break up of the bell system and the absolute catastrophic armageddon that was predicted then, and never happened.

in fact, the wireless voice and data services we all enjoy today might not have happened as quickly were it not for divestiture.

wphamilton said...

Then you should be opposed to this. The FTC is wanting to put Monster Bell back together again. The Internet version.

Anonymous said...

No such thing is happening like that at all.

Hyperbolic WP

Anonymous said...

Anyone with any claim to Libertarian leanings and respect for the free market capitalism would be opposed to this."

I am both and a small business owner, Obama over reaching regulation on the internet are simply being erased, Obama had a pen, Trump has the eraser, balance .


Chicken Little WP , bleeding like Sandra Fluck after a gang banging.

Anonymous said...

The FTC is wanting to put Monster Bell back together again"

Let us credit the above line to the TRUE Author, Pocahontas Warren.

wphamilton said...

I supported my family with an internet based business. I built my own servers, and my own network infrastructure, utilizing application software that I developed to implement business procedures that I designed. I negotiated and implemented third party network services and webservice API's, and in addition integrated gateways to all major marketplace platforms. In other words, from literally nothing to a successful business by my own efforts, that based on skills and knowledge learned previously as variously professional Network Engineer, Systems Engineer, and that continues to acronyms I won't list, but literally a professional in every technical aspect of such businesses. So no, it isn't "chicken little" but a fairly broad base of specific, detailed knowledge of the industry.