Friday, January 26, 2018

Plurality of Americans want special counsel to investigate partisanship in the FBI


The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 49% of Likely U.S. Voters believe a special prosecutor should be named to investigate whether senior FBI officials handled the investigation of Hilary Clinton and Donald Trump in a legal and unbiased fashion. Thirty-one percent (31%) disagree, but a sizable 19% are not sure.
Sixty-two percent (62%) of Republicans are calling for an outside prosecutor to investigate the FBI, as is a plurality (49%) of voters not affiliated with either major political party. Among Democrats, 38% favor a special prosecutor; 40% are opposed, but 22% are undecided.

Let's be clear here, folks. The FBI has brought this on themselves. While it has to be conceded that the master persuader certainly has contributed to the reputation downfall of our most esteemed law enforcement agency, none of this would be possible if the FBI was running a tighter (non-partisan) ship.

It's a simple concept. Follow the law. Be professional. Keep politics out of it. But the FBI has not been able to follow that simple formula.

Consider nothing else than this compare and contrast.

Hillary Clinton purposely attempted to wipe all existing information off from a server, shortly after that server was subpoenaed by the FBI in the course of a federal investigation. This is text book, blatant, nailed to the wall pre-proven obstruction of justice. People are not allowed to destroy evidence, much less subpoenaed evidence. Yet, there appears to have been not even any consideration of any indictment.  There were known repeated lies told to the FBI (under oath) by Clinton aides. No perjury charges were ever brought.

Meanwhile, two members of the Trump campaign team have been charged with misleading statements over non-criminal events, and there appears to be some attempt to literally "manufacture" a never before considered idea that you can charge the President of the United States for obstruction of justice because he used his constitutional authority to fire someone everyone believed (at one time or another) should be fired.

Democrats - ignore existing laws.
Republicans - make up new laws.


43 comments:

commie said...

LOL....They sure didn't poll me!!!! Must be a biased R sample to come up with that BS

commie said...

Just as I thought....

https://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/rasmussen-polls-were-biased-and-inaccurate-quinnipiac-surveyusa-performed-strongly/

Amazing how CH wobbles on his position on polls...when they give the answer he likes....he is all over them...when they don't they are worthless as tits on loretta.....LOL

C.H. Truth said...

Don't like the facts... declare the news to be fake polls, huh Opie?

You sound like Trump!

btw... You do realize that your link is eight years old?

Anonymous said...

btw... You do realize that your link is eight years old?
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that's d0pie.

sharp as a fucking billiard ball.

James said...

Well, Opie goofed. But Rasmussen is not exactly a standard of excellence in polling.

Commonsense said...

Funny it was when their polling was favorable to Obama.

You could wait to post every Rasmussen poll.

commie said...

C.H. Truth said...
Don't like the facts... declare the news to be fake polls, huh Opie?

That's what you and trump do....I did not declare that poll fake....I called it bias and since there sample can be manipulated....I sure can question their veracity.. BTW...polls are not facts....they are opinions only as good as their questions, something you have pointed out many times....I learned my lesson well. LOL....

Does an old story dispute the fact that rassmussen is well known to be biased...google it.....Nice try again. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/

LOL at both of you....

C.H. Truth said...

Eight years ago, Rasmussen was run by Scott Rasmussen. They were accused (by 538 and others) of leaning too far to the right.

They actually performed very well over that period. They were, in fact, the most accurate pollster over the course of like 4 election periods (according to most objective standards). But the problem for Silver and others, was that they were correctly calling GOP wins, while other pollsters (and Silver) was calling those races for the Democrats.

What 538 did to deem them the "worst pollster" was compare apples to oranges. They didn't simply look at final polling, figure out which pollsters ended up right and which ones ended up wrong at the end.

But rather, they included most every poll, including many early polls where Rasmussen showed an incumbent in Wyoming with a 60 point lead against a Democrat nobody heard of... but ended up only winning by 30 in the end.

Rasmussen would be the only pollster to have ever polled Wyoming, and their only poll was four months old, but they counted it in their average anyways.

I took 538's numbers... and simply "excluded" every state for every pollster where the majority of pollsters had not polled. In other words, I dialed it back to the main races that all pollsters were covering all the way till the end. Effectively making the comparisons purely apples to apples.

By making that major/minor adjustment, it moved Rasmussen to be right in the mix with every other pollster that year. In fact, I believe they were still (under those comparisons) in the top third or so...

Scott Rasmussen stepped down shortly after all of this (apparently for other reasons) and Rasmussen started to become known as a pollster with a liberal bend (to some degree they still are).

C.H. Truth said...

I called it bias and since there sample can be manipulated.

So... fake news, then?

James said...

I always preferred Gallup to Rasmussen. Lately Rasmussen has given Trump better approval ratings than almost every other poll.

Polls said...

Trump approval
Rasmussen 45%
FOX News 45%
Harvard-Harris 44%
CNN 43%
Economist-YouGov 43%

Gallup 36%

commie said...

So... fake news, then?

If it makes you feel better, fake news it is even though I never said it.....Dayum you seem to really care what I think....sad how desperate you are for a win...YOU WIN!!!! CH congrats you really are a great man.....

UCC said...

James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.

commie said...

Eight years ago, Rasmussen was run by Scott Rasmussen

No one cares other than you CH...THEIR BIAS IS WELL KNOWN AND THEY REMAIN AN OUTLIER ON EVERYTHING TRUMP..... But, taking all that time to post that pile of crap makes you feel better, good. Zales is a great company that makes ornaments for women....NOC built the B2, E2C E8 all programs I worked on....What did you do? Video is the last thing I worked on and helped design......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1G-L7qvTKI

Anonymous said...




All cleaned up: no indictment, meaning no prosecution, meaning no disclosure of Clinton–Obama emails. It all worked like a charm . . . except the part where Mrs. Clinton wins the presidency and the problem is never spoken of again.


Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455696/hillary-clinton-barack-obama-emails-key-decision-not-indict-hillary?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=180124_Jolt&utm_term=Jolt

Anonymous said...




We now have what appears to be evidence of an FBI official leaking information to a WSJ / WaPo reporter, who subsequently tweeted and wrote articles defending Page and Strzok, while throwing FBI deputy director Andy McCabe under the bus.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-26/anti-trump-fbi-official-identified-leaker-wsj-wapo-reporter


commie said...

Zero hedge and national review provide very interesting OPINIONS and prove nothing rat hole...something you are very good at....LOLOLOL FAKE STORY.....

Anonymous said...

Zero hedge and national review provide very interesting OPINIONS
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which are current, and not 6 or 8 years old.


wphamilton said...

"misleading statements over non-criminal events" - is that all, or were there also outright lies regarding criminal events?

"... because he used his constitutional authority to fire someone" - or perhaps ABUSED his authority to obstruct an investigation into himself and his staff.

"It's a simple concept. Follow the law. Be professional. Keep politics out of it. But the FBI has not been able to follow that simple formula."

A bold and unsubstantiated (and hence unlikely) allegation with respect to the Russia investigations.

"Lock her up" is still a strong impetus for many (perhaps most) of those 62% Republicans wanting a look into the FBI. I'm sure that a lot of people see that through a partisan lens, reasoning that if they let Hillary off so easily they MUST be liberal plants and that's why they're going after Trump. Perhaps even you believe this. But I think it's pretty obvious that pressure came from the top officials at the Justice Department (and not in the FBI), and that's truly where any such investigation should begin.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

More evidence of how effective the President and the porn star and Fox News is proof that you've lost your rationality and mind.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Obstruction of Justice Time Line

January 27: Told Comey "I need loyalty".

February 14: Asked Comey to let the Flynn investigation go.

March 22 Trump asked Pompeo and Coats to lean on Comey about the Russian investigation.

March: Wanted Sessions to protect him. He got angry over the fact that Sessions had excluded himself from the investigation. Temper temper Temper.

May 9 he fired Comey, and said it was related to the Russian investigation. Later telling the Russian ambassador that he was a dis loyal fool.

And no, there is no objection of justice, even though he was blocked fro firing Muller by the White House council. And on top of that our complete shill for the biggest liar who has ever held the office, wants an investigation into the investigation.

Let's select a bunch of conservatives to investigate the investigation.The President could select the investigators.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

CH, your characterization of the FBI is corrupt is not based on facts.

Trump knows that the Mueller investigation is existential for him. He knows that eventually, the investigation will find something that will end his term. He's claiming the corruption and you are following orders. I read your comments. A lot of guesses on the intention of people in the FBI.

If you look at the sequence, and a good lawyer a foundation for a charge of objection of justice. It's hard to prove but he's given the Mueller investigation z lot of help.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Not one, and I mean not one, of the Republicans in congress spoke out in defense of the President. Silence speaks loudly my friend. And wp line by line, well, your trip into TrumpShithole sank like the Titanic.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

President Donald Trump pressed senior aides last June to devise and carry out a campaign to discredit senior FBI officials after learning that those specific employees were likely to be witnesses against him as part of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, according to two people directly familiar with the matter.

In testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee on June 8, recently fired FBI Director James Comey disclosed that he spoke contemporaneously with other senior bureau officials about potentially improper efforts by the president to curtail the FBI’s investigation of alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia to interfere in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

Mueller is investigating whether Trump’s efforts constituted obstruction of justice.

Not long after Comey’s Senate testimony, Trump hired John Dowd, a veteran criminal defense attorney, to represent him in matters related to Mueller’s investigation. Dowd warned Trump that the potential corroborative testimony of the senior FBI officials in Comey’s account would likely play a central role in the special counsel’s final conclusion, according to people familiar with the matter.

In discussions with at least two senior White House officials, Trump repeated what Dowd had told him to emphasize why he and his supporters had to “fight back harder,” in the words of one of these officials.

In a brief conversation Friday afternoon, Dowd denied the accounts of administration officials contained in this story as “flat-out wrong,” but he also refused to discuss what details were incorrect. “My advice to the president is confidential,” he told Foreign Policy.

“You don’t know me,” Dowd added. “You don’t how I lawyer, and you don’t know what I communicated to the president and what I did not.”

While Dowd’s private advice to the president would ordinarily be protected by attorney-client privilege, Mueller might be able to probe comments that Trump made to others about that legal advice by asking him directly about it as well as anyone else he shared that advice with.

A person with direct knowledge of the matter said although Dowd explained the risks of senior FBI officials joining Comey in testifying against Trump, that information was part of a broader presentation to the president about Mueller’s investigation. It is not improper, but in fact is a duty, for an attorney to explain to a client how they are at risk, the source said. What may have been improper, however, were actions Trump took upon learning that information.

Since Dowd gave him that information, Trump — as well as his aides, surrogates, and some Republican members of Congress — has engaged in an unprecedented campaign to discredit specific senior bureau officials and the FBI as an institution.

The FBI officials Trump has targeted are Andrew McCabe, the current deputy FBI director and who was briefly acting FBI director after Comey’s firing; Jim Rybicki, Comey’s chief of staff and senior counselor; and James Baker, formerly the FBI’s general counsel. Those same three officials were first identified as possible corroborating witnesses for Comey in a June 7 article in Vox. Comey confirmed in congressional testimony the following day that he confided in the three men.

In the past, presidents have attacked special counsels and prosecutors who have investigated them, calling them partisan and unfair. But no previous president has attacked a long-standing American institution such as the FBI — or specific FBI agents and law enforcement officials.

Mueller has asked senior members of the administration questions in recent months indicating that prosecutors might consider Trump’s actions also to be an effort to intimidate government officials — in this case FBI officials — from testifying against him.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...


In the past, presidents have attacked special counsels and prosecutors who have investigated them, calling them partisan and unfair. But no previous president has attacked a long-standing American institution such as the FBI — or specific FBI agents and law enforcement officials.

Mueller has asked senior members of the administration questions in recent months indicating that prosecutors might consider Trump’s actions also to be an effort to intimidate government officials — in this case FBI officials — from testifying against him.

And a blogger from Minnesota.

Foreign Policy said...

James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.

Roger Amick said...

James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.

Anonymous said...

But no previous president has attacked a long-standing American institution such as the FBI — or specific FBI agents and law enforcement officials.
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thanks for noticing that it's long overdue, alky.

the fbi has been a fucking mess since the days of hoover. they just shot and killed a kidnapping victim the other day in houston for chrissakes. you don't give that much power to that much corruption and incompetence and expect it to turn out well.

A terrorist attack in Texas by two U.S. citizens shows how hard it is to prevent such an attack -- even when one of the terrorists is well-known to the FBI


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/terrorism-in-garland-texas-what-the-fbi-knew-before-the-2015-attack/




if this president is smart he'll figure out a way to shut the fbi down. forever.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The President told members of his staff to smear potential witnesses. In June..

President Donald Trump pressed senior aides last June to devise and carry out a campaign to discredit senior FBI officials after learning that those specific employees were likely to be witnesses against him as part of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, according to two people directly familiar with the matter….In discussions with at least two senior White House officials, Trump repeated what Dowd had told him to emphasize why he and his supporters had to “fight back harder,” in the words of one of these officials.

….Since Dowd gave him that information, Trump — as well as his aides, surrogates, and some Republican members of Congress — has engaged in an unprecedented campaign to discredit specific senior bureau officials and the FBI as an institution. The FBI officials Trump has targeted are Andrew McCabe, the current deputy FBI director and who was briefly acting FBI director after Comey’s firing; Jim Rybicki, Comey’s chief of staff and senior counselor; and James Baker, formerly the FBI’s general counsel….Comey confirmed in congressional testimony the following day that he confided in the three men.

Trump’s jihad against the FBI, and against McCabe and the others in particular, is already widely known. Fox News is a 24/7 KJB tv. The voice of the President, not news.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/01/26/trump-launched-campaign-to-discredit-potential-fbi-witnesses/

If you go after potential witnesses, it is quite possibly obstruction of justice. Trying to discredit witnesses, just think about it..

I'm beginning to think that he's not going to compete his term in office.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

There are daily police shootings of innocent victims, is not anything new you idiot.

You're just a tool of the President that's all you are.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

broke with top officials at the Justice Department and called for the release of a classified memo purported to list Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) abuses by the U.S. government, The Washington Post reported Saturday.

Despite warnings from top officials at the agency, Trump reportedly told Attorney General Jeff Sessions through Chief of Staff John Kellythat he wants to see the memo released, believing that it will shed light on the special counsel investigation.

Trump “is inclined to have that released just because it will shed light,” a senior administration official told the Post.

“Apparently all the rumors are that it will shed light, it will help the investigators come to a conclusion," the official added.

The decision to release the memo rests with the House Intelligence Committee, chaired by California Republican Rep. Devin Nunes. Earlier this week, the Justice Department warned the committee it would be "extremely reckless" to release the memo without first supplying it to the agency for review.

"Indeed, we do not understand why the committee would possibly seek to disclose this information without first consulting the relevant members of the Intelligence Community," associate Attorney General Stephen Boyd wrote to the lawmakers on Thursday.

Republicans in Congress who have seen the memo say that the contents are "shocking," and voted this week to allow House members to view the memo in secure locations. The Senate Intelligence Committee, however, has been reportedly blocked from viewing it.

“I’m here to tell all of America tonight that I’m shocked to read exactly what has taken place,” House Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) said in a speech on the House floor.

“I thought it could never happen in a country that loves freedom and democracy like this country. It is time that we become transparent with all of this, and I’m calling on our leadership to make this available so all Americans can judge for themselves,” he said.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Communists Russia had the KJB.

Trump is proposing to replace the FBI with the TJB The Trump Justice Bureau..

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump is releasing the memo. National security doesn't matter to Trump. It's all about him.

#impeachment before he can act again if the Republican controlled congress can grow some balls.

Commonsense said...

It was never about national security and all about abuse of power.

I'm not surprised Roger would want to hide Obama's misdeed under the cloak of national security.

Bring abuse of power to the light of day.

Anonymous said...

National security doesn't matter to Trump.
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ok champ, i'll bite...

please explain to us what national security issues will be put at risk with the release of the memo.

no copy/paste's now. use your own words and reasoning.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
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Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

In the past, presidents have attacked special counsels and prosecutors who have investigated them, calling them partisan and unfair. But no previous president has attacked a long-standing American institution such as the FBI — or specific FBI agents and law enforcement officials.

Mueller has asked senior members of the administration questions in recent months indicating that prosecutors might consider Trump’s actions also to be an effort to intimidate government officials — in this case FBI officials — from testifying against him.

And a blogger from Minnesota.


Kiss my gym today hard ass.

Anonymous said...




THIS is cnn:


The U.S. coalition denied on Friday the deaths of two Special Forces members after social media and mainstream news reports carrying an image purporting to show a dead U.S. soldier were spread by two of the Pentagon's allies currently battling one another in Syria.

The reports were initially carried by accounts that appeared supportive of both the Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG) and those supportive of the Turkish military fighting them in the northwestern district of Afrin in Aleppo, Syria. In both versions, the subject of the photograph was described as a Special Forces member named Eddie Bragdon who went by the nom de guerre "Zana Rizgar" and was killed fighting alongside the U.S.-backed Kurds.

The problem? Social media users and analysts quickly pointed out that the man in the picture was actually U.S. actor Bradley Cooper appearing as he did in his role as late Navy SEAL veteran Chris Kyle in the 2014 film American Sniper. But not before mainstream Turkish outlets such as CNN Turk ran with the story.

http://www.newsweek.com/cnn-turk-reports-american-sniper-bradley-cooper-killed-syria-us-military-792775

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The DOJ says that memo has extremely important secret data.

Unless like you, the Coldheartedtruth is that the FBI and the intelligence agencies across the board are run by honest and dedicated Americans.

They can have political beliefs, we are guaranteed the freedom of speech, doesn't mean that they cannot conduct an honest investigation without political bias.

My words.

Commonsense said...

No matter how much work Roger puts in at the gym it won't help his lame brain.

Anonymous said...

But no previous president has attacked a long-standing American institution such as the FBI — or specific FBI agents and law enforcement officials.
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i said no copy/pastes. you don't take instruction well, alky.

anyway drama queen, trump hasn't attacked the fbi per se, however they do in fact deserve it. they're corrupt and rotten to the core. trump has simply singled out three prominent asshats from the fbi senior administration and called their honesty and integrity into question, and rightly so. all three were and are squarely in the tank for hillary clinton. this is no secret to anyone. comey's a lying piece of shit, and his projection is about all he has left to try and cover his corrupt lying ass.

hopefully we get to see the evidence this week that the coup attempt began with skeets 0linsky and wove its way through the fbi, doj, west wing, etc.

a whole lotta people belong in jail alky. and none of them are named trump.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
The DOJ says that memo has extremely important secret data.
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as they fight tooth and nail to prevent its release.

see how this works, alky?

rosenstein needs to be fired and replaced with rudy giuliani. THEN we could see exactly what mueller has going on two years into a bogus investigation. the fact is that as of right now, mueller is not being held to account. that needs to change.



Anonymous said...

Unless like you, the Coldheartedtruth is that the FBI and the intelligence agencies across the board are run by honest and dedicated Americans.
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alky, i lived just outside of boston when whitey bulger fucking OWNED just about the entire FBI boston field office. it was local news.

the FBI has been corrupt since the days of hoover, and it CONTAINS more criminals than it has ever apprehended.