One source said the judge was not told that the document was paid for by the Democratic sources. CNN first reported last April that the dossier was used as part of the justification with the secret FISA court to monitor the communications of former Trump foreign policy adviser Carter Page. The New York Times first reported on the charges outlined in Nunes' memo.Top Secret FISA Court Order - President Obama Spying on Political Enemies
Speaking of deceiving the FISA court, Joseph diGenova, in an interview with Ginni Thomas for the Daily Caller, discusses a FISA court opinion of April 27, 2017 that accused the Obama administration of lying to court and of abusive use of material obtained through authorized surveillance. The opinion found that the FBI distributed such material to “contractors.” The names of the contractors are redacted, but diGenova believes they include Fusion GPS and Crowd Strike. Crowd Strike was the DNC’s private security firm.Newly released texts between ex-Mueller team members suggest they knew outcome of Clinton email probe in advance
The Justice Department has given various congressional committees nearly 400 pages of additional text messages between two FBI officials who were removed from Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian officials.
One of the newly discovered messages, lawmakers said, appeared to indicate that Peter Strzok and Lisa Page knew that charges would not be filed against Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton as a result of the investigation into her email server — before Clinton was interviewed by the bureau.FBI ‘Failed To Preserve’ Five Months Of Text Messages Between Anti-Trump FBI Agents
The FBI “failed to preserve” five months worth of text messages exchanged between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, the two FBI employees who made pro-Clinton and anti-Trump comments while working on the Clinton email and the Russia collusion investigations.
The disclosure was made Friday in a letter sent by the Justice Department to the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee (HSGAC).
Certainly the left will still tell you that all of this is a "distraction" from the investigation in Russian Collusion. Of course, in a matter of a week or so we have more evidence of corruption and possible criminal behavior from the FBI and Obama DOJ than we have found in nearly two years of investigating Trump.
The reality here folks (and it's time for liberals to admit it) is that the Russian collusion investigation was manufactured as a distraction. It was never real to begin with. No amount of investigating can uncover something that doesn't exist.
Perhaps it's time to investigate something we actually know could be a real crime, and something that has some evidence to support it.
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the five months worth of text messages are retrievable via subpoena to the wireless carrier who provided the service. plus, i would hope that the FBI was smart enough to be running some sort of highly secure mobile device management software. that too could allow message retrieval.
ultimately there needs to be a wholesale house cleaning at FBI and associated DOJ departments.
it's rotten to the core, and obviously has been for years.
and i wouldn't be so quick as to dismiss the thought that the rot has seeped down into the FBI rank and file.
Like Watergate, missing tape.
Sean DavisVerified account @seanmdav · 1m1 minute ago
If Congress wants the media to take its Intelligence Committee findings seriously, it should just tell reporters the report was funded by the DNC, commissioned by Glenn Simpson, authored by a foreign spy, and sourced to unnamed Kremlin cronies.
reality is no longer a topic on your blog. It is 100% dishonest Trumpism.
Attorney General Jeff Sessions — at the public urging of President Donald Trump — has been pressuring FBI Director Christopher Wray to fire Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, but Wray threatened to resign if McCabe was removed, according to three sources with direct knowledge.
Wray's resignation under those circumstances would have created a media firestorm. The White House — understandably gun-shy after the Comey debacle — didn’t want that scene, so McCabe remains.
Sessions told White House Counsel Don McGahn about how upset Wray was about the pressure on him to fire McCabe, and McGahn told Sessions this issue wasn’t worth losing the FBI Director over, according to a source familiar with the situation.
Why it matters: Trump started his presidency by pressuring one FBI Director (before canning him), and then began pressuring another (this time wanting his deputy canned). This much meddling with the FBI for this long is not normal.
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McGahn has been informed about these ongoing conversations, though he has not spoken with Wray about FBI personnel, according to an administration source briefed on the situation. Trump nominated Wray, previously an assistant attorney general under George W. Bush, last June to replace James Comey as director.
Trump has also tweeted negatively about other senior FBI officials who are allies of Comey, including the former top FBI lawyer James A. Baker who was recently “reassigned” after pressure from Sessions.
White House Principal Deputy Press Secretary Raj Shah said of Wray: “As we’ve said, the president has enormous respect for the thousands of rank and file FBI agents who make up the world’s most professional and talented law enforcement agency. He believes politically-motivated senior leaders including former Director Comey and others he empowered have tainted the agency’s reputation for unbiased pursuit of justice. The president appointed Chris Wray because he is a man of true character and integrity and the right choice to clean up the misconduct at the highest levels of the FBI and give the rank and file confidence in their leadership.”
As I reported last night, Sessions has adamantly urged Wray to make a "fresh start" with his core team.
Trump and other Republicans have been hammering McCabe — who was selected by the White House as acting director after the Comey firing — for months on Twitter.
On July 26, Trump tweeted: "Why didn't A.G. Sessions replace Acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe, a Comey friend who was in charge of Clinton investigation but got...big dollars ($700,000) for his wife's political run from Hillary Clinton and her representatives. Drain the Swamp!"
Axioms.
The White House has not denied the story.
These are undeniable facts, Rog....
The fact that you refuse to even provide any sort of argument is proof positive that you've lost your fucking mind.
Only one of us was emotionally traumatized by the 2016 election and still cannot get over it. Emotionally traumatized people don't think straight.
To me, this is all like watching a movie. My personal interest in Trump is 90% about how my personal economic situation has or will improve... and 10% about watching the collective heads explode on the left.
The rest, I couldn't give a bigger fuck.
Tell us all, big boy. What new revelation of Russian collusion has been reported that we are all missing? Did Trump's gardener from 1979 turn out to have relatives who once visited Russia?
You seem to have absolutely no concern that a sitting administration was falsifying FICA requests to garner warrants to spy on their political opponents.
I have to ask you, Rog... if it was good for the Obama Administration, I am sure you are okay if the Trump administration starts using private investigators to garner fake information to pass on to a FICA judge to garner warrants to spy on Democrats?
How would that sit for you, huh Rog?
Papadopoulos is the John Dean of RussiaGate
The coffee boy matter.
The distraction of attempting to imprison his former opponent is the actions of a dictatorship. And you are saluting and making a shithole of a formerly credible blog.
Three days after Donald Trump named his campaign foreign policy team in March 2016, the youngest of the new advisers sent an email to seven campaign officials with the subject line: “Meeting with Russian Leadership - Including Putin.”
The adviser, George Papadopoulos, offered to set up “a meeting between us and the Russian leadership to discuss US-Russia ties under President Trump,” telling them his Russian contacts welcomed the opportunity, according to internal campaign emails read to The Washington Post.
The proposal sent a ripple of concern through campaign headquarters in Trump Tower. Campaign co-chairman Sam Clovis wrote that he thought NATO allies should be consulted before any plans were made. Another Trump adviser, retired Navy Rear Adm. Charles Kubic, cited legal concerns, including a possible violation of U.S. sanctions against Russia and of the Logan Act, which prohibits U.S. citizens from unauthorized negotiation with foreign governments.
But Papadopoulos, a campaign volunteer with scant foreign policy experience, persisted. Between March and September, the self-described energy consultant sent at least a half-dozen requests for Trump, as he turned from primary candidate to party nominee, or for members of his team to meet with Russian officials. Among those to express concern about the effort was then-campaign chairman Paul Manafort, who rejected in May 2016 a proposal from Papadopoulos for Trump to do so.
The exchanges are among more than 20,000 pages of documents the Trump campaign turned over to congressional committees this month after review by White House and defense lawyers. The selection of Papadopoulos’s emails were read to The Post by a person with access to them. Two other people with access to the emails confirmed the general tone of the exchanges and some specific passages within them.
A 2016 tweet from Donald Trump shows George Papadopoulos, third from left. (Twitter)
[Here’s what we know so far about Team Trump’s ties to Russian interests]
Papadopoulos emerges from the sample of emails as a new and puzzling figure in the examination of the Trump campaign’s contacts with Russian officials and their proxies during the 2016 election, now the subject of a special-counsel investigation.
Less than a decade out of college, Papadopoulos appeared to hold little sway within the campaign, and it is unclear whether he was acting as an intermediary for the Russian government, although he told campaign officials he was.
While the emails illustrate his eagerness to strengthen the campaign’s connections to the Russian government, Papadopoulos does not spell out in them why it would be in Trump’s interest to do so. His entreaties appear to have generated more concern than excitement within the campaign, which at the time was looking to seal the Republican nomination and take on a heavily favored Hillary Clinton in the general election.
But the internal resistance to Papadopoulos’s requests is at odds with other overtures Trump allies were making toward Russia at the time, mostly at a more senior level of the campaign.
Three months after Papadopoulos raised the possibility of a meeting between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin, the president’s son Donald Trump Jr. and son-in-law Jared Kushner met with a delegation led by a Russian lawyer offering to provide damaging information on Clinton.
gee alky, except for the part where mccabe is scheduled to retire early, your "three sources with direct knowledge" (LOL) were spot on.
Facing Republican attacks, FBI’s deputy director plans to retire early next year
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/facing-republican-attacks-fbis-deputy-director-plans-to-retire-early-next-year/2017/12/23/b4802b8c-e67a-11e7-a65d-1ac0fd7f097e_story.html?utm_term=.ba0a97a24bca
One source said the judge was not told that the document was paid for by the Democratic sources. CNN
One source. From the Fake News CNN. You normally disregard the Fake News, that caused your head to go nuclear, when I provided links to you.
The other sources are Faux News and the Daily Caller. This is based upon events that have never occurred or were not politically motivated as charged. If the two charged by two, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, are just two more employees of the (corrupted) FBI.
pure coincidence, i'm sure...
Doug Ross 🔵
@directorblue
Timing of missing Strzok-Page texts:
Start date: 12/14/16: same date WaPo cites unnamed intel officials stating... wait for it... Russians tried to hack election for Trump.
End date: 5/17/17: same date Mueller is named Special Counsel.
Full timeline: http://tinyurl.com/timelineoftreason …
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Your approval of an increasingly demented President and beliefs that the charges are real make me wonder..
Tell us all, big boy. What new revelation of Russian collusion has been reported that we are all missing? Did Trump's gardener from 1979 turn out to have relatives who once visited Russia?
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here's the latest nonsense flowing forth from adam schiff's pie hole:
Roger Amick said...
Papadopoulos is the John Dean of RussiaGate
The coffee boy matter.
btw, is anyone else old enough to notice the striking resemblance between adam schiff and the latka gravas character on the tv show "taxi"?
they could be twins.
NEWS ALERTAG Jeff Sessions was questioned for several hours last week in the Russia investigation, source says.
Mueller's office questioned Sessions in Russia investigation
By Ariane de Vogue, CNN Supreme Court Reporter
Updated 10:22 AM ET, Tue January 23, 2018
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
The interview took place last Wednesday
The White House said it is cooperating with Mueller's investigation
(CNN)Attorney General Jeff Sessions was questioned for several hours last week by special counsel Robert Mueller's office as part of the investigation into Russia's meddling in the election and whether President Donald Trump obstructed justice since taking office, a source close to Sessions told CNN.
The interview took place last Wednesday. A source familiar with the discussion said it was the first time Sessions was interviewed and he was not under subpoena.
The White House said it is cooperating with Mueller's investigation and press secretary Sarah Sanders said she didn't know if Sessions and Trump discussed the interview on Monday when Sessions was at the White House.
source says.
a source close to Sessions told CNN.
A source familiar with the discussion
You seem to have absolutely no concern that a sitting administration has been falsifying FBI requests for working with the Russians on their political opponents. And corrupted the election of 2016. No big deal. You don't care because Clinton didn't win.
source says.
a source close to Sessions told CNN.
A source familiar with the discussion
Every single point made by CH came from..
source says.
a source close to Sessions told CNN.
A source familiar with the discussion
This gets easier every single day
I have to ask you, Rog... if it was good for the Obama Administration, I am sure you are okay if the Trump administration starts using private investigators to garner fake information to pass on to a FICA judge to garner warrants to spy on Democrats?
How would that sit for you, huh Rog?"
Waiting ............
Roger Amick said...
Your approval of an increasingly demented President and beliefs that the charges are real make me wonder..
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demented according to who?
some broken down, pussy hat-wearing drunk on his second liver who needs a walker to get around?
trump's older than you are, alky. and in so much better shape it's not funny.
you're the one who appears increasingly unhinged in your opposition to this president. you've reduced him to a monster under your bed. that's childish and illogical.
i almost feel for you pal. you're about to not only watch this whole russia, russia, russia thing turn to shit before your very eyes, but it's going to snap back on the very people you've been supporting. prepare to be disappointed rog, because you're gonna be.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
This gets easier every single day
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what's that? getting around? you must've installed some fresh tennis balls on the back legs of your walker.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
You seem to have absolutely no concern that a sitting administration has been falsifying FBI requests for working with the Russians on their political opponents.
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which fakebook page provided you with THIS pile of bullshit?
c'mon, give up that link. i need a really good laugh today.
Russian Twitter Accounts Promoted GOP Talking Points
“The White House branded the federal budget impasse… as the ‘Schumer Shutdown’ in its attempt to pin the blame on Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-NY),” the Los Angeles Times reports.
“But it wasn’t just Republicans using that phrase during the weekend government shutdown. Independent analysts said Twitter accounts linked to Russia have spread the same message.”
The irony for Roger was that the authoritarian threat to our democracy was in the guise of a smooth-talking Kenyan-American who also happen to beat Hillary Clinton.
And the legacy and people he left to exert control is quite scary.
Roger, we look forward to you answering CHT questions.
Waiting.........
Roger knows it's the truth. That's why his hysteria meter is red lining.
hey alky, according to debbie shit for brains schultz, your side scored some really sweet and really serious potential for momentum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXTPLlEkRTk
Actually Roger...
Every story (except the CNN one) provides the sourse.
The FICA court order - Joseph diGenova
Text messages - Justice department reports
Failed to preserve - Letter sent to Justice Dept, HS and GAC
You can't even get a simple argument straight.
Perhaps if you actually "read" what I wrote, you might understand it better.
what's that? getting around? you must've installed some fresh tennis balls on the back legs of your walker.
LMAO
Perhaps if you actually "read" what I wrote, you might understand it better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGxwbhkDjZM
Attorney General Jeff Sessions was questioned for several hours last week by the special counsel’s office as part of the investigation into Russia’s meddling in the election and whether the president obstructed justice since taking office, according to a Justice Department spokeswoman.
The meeting marked the first time that investigators for the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, are known to have interviewed a member of Mr. Trump’s cabinet.
The spokeswoman, Sarah Isgur Flores, confirmed that the interview occurred in response to questions from The New York Times.
Mr. Sessions announced in March that he had recused himself from all matters related to the 2016 election, including the Russia inquiry. The disclosure came after it was revealed that Mr. Sessions had not told Congress that he met twice with the Russian ambassador to the United States at the time, Sergey I. Kislyak, during the campaign. Mr. Sessions was an early supporter of Mr. Trump’s presidential run.
When Mr. Trump learned in March that Mr. Sessions was considering whether to recuse himself, the president had the White House’s top lawyer, Donald F. McGahn II, lobby Mr. Sessions to remain in charge of the Russia investigation.
Mr. Sessions instead followed the guidance of career prosecutors at the Justice Department, who advised him that he should not be involved with the investigation. When Mr. Trump was told of this, the president erupted in anger, saying he needed an attorney general to protect him.
By the way, I had already read the stories you posted. I checked Drudge and Breightbart in anticipation of your posts on your hero who best Clinton.
Flu Season Continues to Worsen
Portion of outpatient visits for flu-like symptoms surpasses every season except 2009 pandemic
The vaccine this year missed the mark. At particular risk are transplant recipients since their immune system is compromise. Better stay indoors Roger.
alky,
is that really the best you can come up with? a repetitive copy/paste?
really???
To late, Roger and his tranny wife have both caught the flu, been hospitalized.
Part of thier healthy life style.
HB, the drama fainting couch queen of CHT.
CBS News makes it clear that your allegations against Clinton's email are not as solid as nails..yet. Your have already come to a conclusion.
The Justice Department last month produced for reporters and Congress hundreds of text messages that the two had traded before becoming part of the Mueller investigation. Many focused on their observations of the 2016 election and included discussions of the Clinton investigation. Republican lawmakers have contended the communication reveals the FBI and the Mueller team to be politically tainted and biased against Mr. Trump — assertions Wray has flatly rejected.
But, according to the letter, the FBI told the department that its system for retaining text messages sent and received on bureau phones had failed to preserve communications between Strzok and Page over a five-month period between Dec. 14, 2016, and May 7, 2017. DOJ says many FBI-provided Samsung 5 mobile devices did not capture texts during that time. The explanation for the gap was "misconfiguration issues related to rollouts, provisioning, and software upgrades that conflicted with the FBI's collection capabilities."
In Johnson's letter to Wray, he asks whether the FBI has any records of communications between Strzok and Page during that five-month window and whether the FBI had searched their non-FBI phones for additional messages. He also asks for the "scope and scale" of any other records from the Clinton investigation that have been lost.
One of the messages references a change in language to Comey's statement closing out the email case involving Clinton, Mr. Trump's Democratic opponent in the 2016 presidential election. While an earlier draft of the statement said Clinton and President Barack Obama had an email exchange while Clinton was "on the territory" of a hostile adversary, the reference to Obama was at first changed to "senior government official" and then omitted entirely in the final version.
Republicans are seizing on the missing texts because the two agents frequently discussed the Clinton investigation as well as their dislike of Trump. In the texts Mr. Strzok refers to "pressure" to finish the Clinton investigation after Trump got the nomination.
The two also discussed Comey's statement on Clintons' exoneration. A June 30th draft included that Clinton emailed with President Obama from her private server. The sentence was later edited to replace President with "senior government officials." In these newly released texts, Strzok is seen discussing the changes being made in real-time. Comey's eventual speech omitted any mention of this senior official or the President.
In another exchange, the two express displeasure about the timing of Lynch's announcement that she would defer to the FBI's judgment on the Clinton investigation. That announcement came days after it was revealed that the attorney general and former President Bill Clinton had an impromptu meeting aboard her plane in Phoenix, though both sides said the email investigation was never discussed.
The texts suggest Lynch knew Comey would not recommend criminal charges in the Clinton investigation before she handed over the investigation to him. The two also discuss using non-work phones to talk about Clinton so it "can't be traced."
Strzok said in a July 1 text message that the timing of Lynch's announcement "looks like hell." And Page appears to mockingly refer to Lynch's decision to accept the FBI's conclusion in the case as a "real profile in courag(e) since she knows no charges will be brought."
Days later, on July 5, Comey announced the FBI's recommendation that no criminal charges were merited..
You obviously believe that he was willing to hide evidence. One could just as well as James Comey decided, that there no charges were merited, that decision was not politically motivated. The FBI is usually unassailable by the Democrats. But now, to protect the President you are accusing him of political corruption. Your President has been a critic of the intelligence agencies across the board and the FBI.
He has zero experience in how the President must act. His total lack of experience in the art of politics and his beliefs that he alone possess enough knowledge to be the President of the United States. You disagree. But I'm in position of the truth.
My immune system is comprised by the anti rejection medications. But I have not been infected with the flu. Instead I had pneumonia. But due to prompt attention and the fact that I am in good physical condition, I recovered with just two days in the hospital.
Thanks for your concern.
Grammar school errors. LOL
He has zero experience in how the President must act. His total lack of experience in the art of politics and his beliefs that he alone possess enough knowledge to be the President of the United States is dangerous to the county. You disagree. But I'm in possession of the truth.
alky, you do realize that the decision to not charge clinton was made well in advance of her FBI interview. and that comey lied to congress about this?
He has zero experience in how the President must act.
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oh ok, i get it.
trump's supposed to act like a two bit, shuck n' jive race pimp from cabrini green with a piss poor jump shot.
why didn't you say so?
If verified, Comey lied with malice and forethought.
He's certainly open himself up to a perjury charge.
Maybe obstruction of justice.
Mueller has stayed away from this aspect of the case. Why?
Huffington post
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POLITICS
01/22/2018 04:48 pm ET Updated 17 hours ago
Liberals Fume At 'Worst Negotiator' Chuck Schumer After Deal To End Shutdown
The New York senator is "even worse" than President Donald Trump."
President Trump to storm Davos. World Economic Forum in Switzerland .
NBC POLITICS JAN 22 2018, 4:09 PM ET
Schumer's rare double-buckle on the shutdown infuriates Democrats on the left
BY JONATHAN ALLEN
"Not only did Schumer come up short of getting a deal to prevent the deportation of "Dreamers" — people brought to this country illegally when they were children — but he divided a Democratic Party that had previously been unified. And he let Trump and McConnell walk away from it all as the clear winners on politics, policy and strategy."
So basically what you are arguing Rog...
Is that the actual evidence regarding the FBI running a politicized investigation to absolve Clinton and a politicized investigation to go after Trump... should be questioned, gone over with a fine tooth comb, and unless everyone agrees that it is valid.
We should just ignore it.
Meanwhile, you still believe that after two years of not finding any evidence of collusion between Trump and the Russians, that somehow the fact that the Special Counsel actually "exists" and is still interviewing people...
proves that the existence alone justifies the existence?
Obama knew about "the Secret Society".
Your President is turd.
Meanwhile, you still believe that after two years of not finding any evidence of collusion between Trump and the Russians, that somehow the fact that the Special Counsel actually "exists" and is still interviewing people...
proves that the existence alone justifies the existence?
You sound like the intoxicated Richard Nixon.
There is irrefutable evidence that there was collusion or objection of justice , says our esteemed host posted.
We shall see.
Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III is seeking to question President Trump in the coming weeks about his decisions to oust national security adviser Michael Flynn and FBI Director James B. Comey, according to two people familiar with his plans.
Mueller’s interest in the events that led Trump to push out Flynn and Comey indicates that his investigation is intensifying its focus on possible efforts by the president or others to obstruct or blunt the special counsel’s probe.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
Again Roger...
You continue to act as if the very "questioning" of someone by Robert Mueller proves something.
It doesn't.
Why would you be sucked into believing it does?
Are you sober?
Mueller’s interest in the events that led Trump to push out Flynn and Comey indicates that his investigation is intensifying its focus on possible efforts by the president or others to obstruct or blunt the special counsel’s probe.
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LOL. suuuuuuuuuuure it is alky.
in a few more days mueller will be the one testifying under oath. what did HE know and when did HE know it?
Are you sober?
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he had better be. 'walker while intoxicated' is a serious offense in mexifornia.
only a 10 time deported beaner is allowed to get away with it.
I was nominated for secretary of the Tuesday 10:30 AA meeting I attend in La Puente.
2,038 days one day at a time my (friend).
Roger AmickJanuary 23, 2018 at 3:41 PM
I was nominated for secretary of the Tuesday 10:30 AA meeting I attend in La Puente.
2,038 days one day at a time my (friend).
Mueller’s interest in the events that led Trump to push out Flynn and Comey indicates that his investigation is intensifying its focus on possible efforts by the president or others to obstruct or blunt the special counsel’s probe.
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or it indicates that mueller doesn't have jack shit after all this time, yet he's still intent upon wasting another metric shit ton of time and $$$.
Did the President help murder someone.?
Just as legitimate as your Trumpism stage four mentality has damaged your credibility
Erovinkin would have known about all these intrigues in great detail, and thus could have exposed not only links to the Trump campaign, but internal corruption—all of which would put him in danger if he were thought to be leaking information.
According to the recent book by British journalist Luke Harding, Collusion: Secret Meetings, Dirty Money, and How Russia Helped Donald Trump Win, Steele denied that Erovinkin was a direct source for his report. But, as Harding told me recently, the information could nonetheless have originated with Erovinkin. (Steele refers to "a senior member of Sechin's staff" as confirming the Sechin-Page meeting to his source.) And even it did not come from Erovinkin, he would have borne responsibility for the leaks, since he was the head of Rosneft’s administration, with security part of his purview. The fatal question ultimately is not what he did, but what he was thought to have done.
While the Ulyukaev case and the Rosneft transactions certainly contribute to the air of conspiracy around Erovinkin’s death, it is more than likely that the Steele dossier did him in.
Although the dossier was not published on the web until two weeks after Erovinkin died, the Kremlin was doubtless aware of its contents well before this. Simpson had conveyed much of the material to American journalists in the autumn of 2016, and, according to the Harding book: “For months, reporters on the national security beat and Moscow correspondents had been working feverishly to substantiate the allegations.”
In fact, the arrests in December of high-level FSB officers responsible for cyber operations were widely assumed to be set off by Steele’s revelations that the Trump campaign had colluded in the Russian cyber attacks against the Clinton campaign that were revealed by U.S. intelligence agencies.
However much Trump’s defenders want to dismiss the dossier as a fake concocted by the president’s enemies, the fallout from it in Russia, including at least one highly probable murder, suggests that much of what Steele reported is fact.
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Blogger Roger Amick said...
I was nominated for secretary of the Tuesday 10:30 AA meeting I attend in La Puente.
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good for you, alky. hopefully some of your fellow booze hounds will give you a decent yelp review.
According to the recent book by British journalist Luke Harding, Collusion: Secret Meetings, Dirty Money, and How Russia Helped Donald Trump Win
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so some toolbag from 'the guardian' wrote a conspiracy rag and you fell for it.
good for you alky.
So Roger...
Some conspiracy theorist writes some story about some guy named Erovinkin who he believes was killed over the Steele Dossier...
and suddenly you take it as fact?
Do you not remember that members of the FBI investigating the Steel Dossier have admitted that it is almost entirely unverified?
Oh, yeah... a reasonable person would accept conspiracy theories as fact, while discounting the FBI as obvious know nothings...
Idiot!
the alky is bitterly clinging to his last shred of hope that the russia, russia, russia thing is true. on the day when it's definitively proven demonstrably false he'll probably 'total' his walker into his dining room table or something.
mail order had better up his narcotics to keep him sedated.
Republicans are seizing on the missing texts because the two agents frequently discussed the Clinton investigation as well as their dislike of Trump. In the texts Mr. Strzok refers to "pressure" to finish the Clinton investigation after Trump got the nomination.
The texts are a red herring, political noise. The agents discussed that Lynch already knew that she wouldn't charge Clinton because it was Lynch's decision and Lynch was "on the take" from the beginning. Republican politicians would like us to believe that it meant that FBI agents "knew" that their investigation was fraudulent, but there is no factual nor logical basis for that. The problem, and there was a problem, came straight from the top of the Justice department and pressured Comey into his ridiculous statements in the press conference. Attacking the FBI is political gamesmanship because they're afraid that the FBI is building a strong, factual case.
I'm as eager as anyone to get to the bottom of the irrational result with Clinton. But Clinton is not Trump, and the Clinton investigation is not the Trump investigation. They need to be kept distinct, and attacking the investigators is unprincipled and foolish. Unprincipled because it's clearly a political attack with a very loose foundation. Foolish because if Mueller DOES wind up with a serious indictment, those who did so will be tarred by the same brush.
WP...
If the investigations are independent and one is not a distraction from the other, then there is no reason "not" to further investigate whether the FBI was playing politics with the law.
All of this information is coming from an inspector general. Someone who is tangibly finding blatant corruption issues within the FBI. Ultimately I don't believe that an inspector general has much authority other than to provide a report. But what we have so far is far more tangible evidence of wrong doing than we have in the so called "Russian collusion" investigation.
Do em simultaneously. There are potential crimes. Appoint a special counsel. No need to ignore one because another is already going on. If it turns out that Comey or Mueller were part of the problem, then you probably have some serious issues with what to do with the Special Counsel. But we should probably know that sooner, rather than later.
No. I was sarcastically commenting on the hunches that you have taken almost every day. It's just as credible as your belief that the President did not collude with the Russians, or worse that he objected justice and falsely accused the FBI of intentionally deleting the Clinton email.
Let me get this straight. You want to have a special counsel to investigate Comey or Mueller or both?
Answer the question.
Investigate the criminal fbi. That includes Comey at minimum.
They want to question the President. For one thing, if he's actually going to be questioned under oath, his lawyers will go to any extent to avoid that situation, and honestly, we all know why. He lies so much that he could face a perjury trap.
The Fake News Washington Post.
Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III is seeking to question President Trump in the coming weeks about his decisions to oust national security adviser Michael Flynn and FBI Director James B. Comey, according to two people familiar with his plans.
Mueller’s interest in the events that led Trump to push out Flynn and Comey indicates that his investigation is intensifying its focus on possible efforts by the president or others to obstruct or blunt the special counsel’s probe.
Trump’s attorneys have crafted some negotiating terms for the president’s interview with Mueller’s team, one that could be presented to the special counsel as soon as next week, according to the two people.
The president’s legal team hopes to provide Trump’s testimony in a hybrid form — answering some questions in a face-to-face interview and others in a written statement.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mueller-seeks-to-question-trump-about-flynn-and-comey-departures/2018/01/23/e6652db6-0068-11e8-9d31-d72cf78dbeee_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_mueller-4pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.01ad618f56fa
A bit more.
Behind the scenes, Trump has told his team of lawyers that he is not worried about being interviewed, because he has done nothing wrong, according to people familiar with his views. His attorneys also support a sit-down, as long as there are clear parameters and topics.
However, some of Trump’s close advisers and friends fear a face-to-face interview with Mueller could put the president in legal jeopardy. A central worry, they say, is Trump’s lack of precision in his speech and his penchant for hyperbole.
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It appears that the investigation is less on Russian collusion and the reasons for firing Flynn and Comey. He's going to have a tough time. First, his staff knows that he's got a "lack of precision", in other words, he isn't capable of testifying without committing perjury.
Before you again in an attempt to discredit my comments, because I have fallen off the wagon, or that I am addicted to opiod pain killers. Neither is correct. Sorry folks the real "stable genius" is having too much fun.
Think about this. "Trump then tweeted that “he had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI.” if he repeats that comment under oath, there is a possibility that he did so to stop the Russian investigation, of Objection of justice.
Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III is seeking to question President Trump in the coming weeks about his decisions to oust national security adviser Michael Flynn and FBI Director James B. Comey, according to two people familiar with his plans.
I'm about ready to go work out.
wp is doing a stand up job of calling out the host on his assumptions and distortions.
Sesseions's rank within the administration, may indicate that Muller is zeroing on central charters as he enters the more advanced stages of the investigation
He lied before about his contacts with the Russian ambassador.
You believe that there is a 'secret society' within the FBI was created when Trump won the election. It's all over "Faux News", and it has a bunch of "freedom conference" loons are accusing the FBI basically trying to stage a coup to take out Trump.
Fox is no longer anything more than the Russian television, a branch of the executive branch of the government. And you do what the President tells you to think..
Attorney General Jeff Sessions — at the public urging of President Donald Trump — has been pressuring FBI Director Christopher Wray to fire Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, but Wray threatened to resign if McCabe was removed, according to three sources with direct knowledge. Wray’s resignation under those circumstances would have created a media firestorm. The White House — understandably gun-shy after the Comey debacle — didn’t want that scene, so McCabe remains.
https://www.axios.com/scoop-1516661397-877adb3e-5f8d-44a1-8a2f-d4f0894ca6a7.html
Good for Wray.
Trump denied that Wray threatened to resign. He hasn't replied yet.
Trump was scared to death. So he fired Flynn and Comey in an attempt to stop the investigation. They have a case CH. Your attempt to distract us from what's wrong with the President..
The letter on Air Force one an "dirt on Clinton" OH MY, that's good.
CH follows orders.
Donald J. Trump
Verified account @realDonaldTrump
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In one of the biggest stories in a long time, the FBI now says it is missing five months worth of lovers Strzok-Page texts, perhaps 50,000, and all in prime time. Wow!
Posted by C.H. Truth at 7:46 AM
EST and CST. take a look.
You are a stark raving mad lunatic, Rog.
You need to look in the mirror.
Trump is in a perjury trap. Roger Moore.
I refuted your post. You were just accusing FBI and Mueller as corruption.
You are a stark raving mad lunatic, Scott.
Trump will have to take the fifth amendment or he will commit perjury.
If he does it, you will excuse him.
Crazy Scott?
This kind of well, makes you look like a fool.
Shortly after President Trump fired his FBI director in May, he summoned to the Oval Office the bureau’s acting director for a get-to-know-you meeting.
The two men exchanged pleasantries, but before long, Trump, according to several current and former U.S. officials, asked Andrew McCabe a pointed question: Whom did he vote for in the 2016 election?
McCabe said he didn’t vote, according to the officials, who, like others interviewed for this article, spoke on the condition of anonymity to talk candidly about a sensitive matter.
Trump, the officials said, also vented his anger at McCabe over the several hundred thousand dollars in donations his wife, a Democrat, received for her failed 2015 Virginia state Senate bid from a political action committee controlled by a close friend of Hillary Clinton.
McCabe, 49, who had been FBI deputy director for a little more than a year when James B. Comey was fired, is at the center of much of the political jockeying surrounding the investigation into potential coordination between Trump associates and the Kremlin. He has for months been the subject of Trump’s ire, prompting angry tweets suggesting that the Russia probe is politically motivated by Democrats sore about losing the election.
McCabe, who has spent more than two decades at the bureau, found the conversation with Trump “disturbing,” said one former U.S. official. Inside the FBI, officials familiar with the exchange expressed frustration that a civil servant — even a very senior agent in the No. 2 position — would be asked how he voted and criticized for his wife’s political leanings by the president.
One person said the Trump-McCabe conversation is of interest to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III.
The encounter is also the latest example of Trump erupting at a senior official, whether it is at Attorney General Jeff Sessions for recusing himself from the Russia probe or White House counsel Donald McGahn for not doing more to quash the investigation early on.
The White House and the FBI declined to comment.
Hummm, odd take there old crippled .
Obama's FBI texted about deleting FBI texts.
Seems to me that very odd behavior.
Jan 2018
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Disney has joined the ranks of U.S. companies that are giving its employees bonuses following the passage of the Republican tax overhaul.
Disney said Tuesday that it will pay over 125,000 employees in the U.S. a one-time cash bonus of $1,000, as well as make a new $50 million investment into an education program for employees.
this "old cripple" put in 1.5 hours in the gym this evening.
I would bet a hundred bucks that you could match what I do every day and more.
k'putz, you should shut up because you are a fool.
I refuted your post.
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you didn't refute shit, alky. as usual, you stack up a pile of copy/pastes with stories you scraped off the occupy resistance fakebook page. you've lost what's left of your mind.
grow the fuck up.
No. I wrote many times. Just like CH used clips from other sources and wrote comments about the story. They clearly demonstrated that his post was nothing more than his opinions that the FBI was corrupt and irresponsible. It's not difficult difficult because his opinions were not supported by the facts.
My mind and body are clearly improving. My recovery from a major medical situation is proceeding rapidly. I'm not addicted, insane or demented. Get used to it.
The occupy resistance? Never heard of it.
I have subscriptions to The Wall Street Journal, Los Angeles Times, The New York Times and the Washington Post. I have links to Drudge. A surprisingly number of the posts started with Drudge. I read Breightbart, Fox, and others from the right. You don't read the Fake News because they in general are correct because they are actually the real news.
The noose around the neck of The President is getting tighter every single day.
CNN not fake news per our host.
Former Trump campaign aide Rick Gates has quietly added a prominent white-collar attorney, Tom Green, to his defense team, signaling that Gates' approach to his not-guilty plea could be changing behind the scenes.
Green, a well-known Washington defense lawyer, was seen at special counsel Robert Mueller's office twice last week. CNN is told by a source familiar with the matter that Green has joined Gates' team.
Green isn't listed in the court record as a lawyer in the case and works for a large law firm separate from Gates' primary lawyers.
Green's involvement suggests that there is an ongoing negotiation between the defendant's team and the prosecutors. At this stage, with Gates' charges filed and bail set, talks could concern the charges and Gates' plea. The defense and prosecution are currently working together on discovery of evidence.
Gates pleaded not guilty in October to eight charges of money laundering and failing to register foreign lobbying and other business. His longtime business partner, former Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort, pleaded not guilty to nine counts in the same case as Gates
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
My mind and body are clearly improving.
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your delusions continue to increase in frequency and severity.
like this for example:
"Former Trump campaign aide Rick Gates has quietly added a prominent white-collar attorney, Tom Green, to his defense team, signaling that Gates' approach to his not-guilty plea could be changing behind the scenes."
for chrissakes alky, gates is part of the manafort issue with no relevance to trump.
good grief son, you're side is losing it. case in point -
adam schiff's latest bushel of bullshit is that russian bots are behind the release the memo effort. and then? hilarity ensues when his office is flooded with phone calls from actual living breathing americans calling to tell him that they're not russian bots.
i'll give you some credit for hanging tough as your case implodes, alky. pro tip - get yourself an opiate refill before it all turns to shit. you're going to need something to numb your crippled old ass.
Our host has bought in to the (Secret Society) theory is in the FBI determined to bring down President Trump. He called them (shenanigans). Senator Ron Johnson (R Wi) bought into the theory.
Dictatorships, attack the law enforcement agencies. The President of Turkey attacked the armed forces and the justice department to sustain the government that had illegally maintained power.
Well guess what is happening in the United States?
Washington Examiner
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ron-johnson-an-informant-told-me-about-anti-trump-fbi-secret-society-meetings/article/2646906
Interest brews in House Judiciary Committee for more testimony from James Comey: Report
Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., said on Tuesday he had an "informant" corroborate reports concerning the existence of an FBI "secret society" working to undermine President Trump.
"What this is all about is further evidence of corruption, more than bias, but corruption at the highest levels of the FBI," Johnson told Fox News' Bret Baier.
Trump was breaking ground on immigration, then it all went to "shit"
"Now a secret society? We have an informant that's talking about a group that were holding secret meetings off site. There is so much smoke here, there is so much suspicion," the senator continued.
Johnson would not expound upon his answers when pressed by Baier for details regarding the "informant," simply adding it was an issue congressional investigators would have "to dig into."
References to an anti-Trump "secret society" within the agency emerged this week with the release of more text messages between FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, former members of special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia probe.
"There is a text exchange between these two FBI agents, these supposed-to-be fact-centric FBI agents saying, 'Perhaps this is the first meeting of the secret society,'" Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., told Fox News Monday, referring to a missive sent between the pair the day after the election.
Johnson on Tuesday also called for the appointment of a special counsel to examine allegations of inappropriate behavior at the FBI.
"Robert Mueller used to run the FBI. He's in no position to do an investigation over this kind of misconduct," he said. "So I think at this point of time we probably should be looking at a special counsel to undertake this investigation, but Congress is going to have to continue to dig."
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I asked Scott yesterday that if he supports the creation of a special investigation into the Muller investigation, I didn't get a response..
So again CH, do you support the creation of a new special prosecutor into the Muller investigation and alleged (Secret Society) in the FBI?
Drudge report is headlined with the story after story of this post by CH.
I can get my refill on a two days notice. Butt my butt is tight, and since I got a pain nerve blockage and a steroids procedure on Monday, I have not been using it. Besides, shithole, I have never exceeded the prescription. 5/325 dosage.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
The guano is getting rather deep even for this cite of non-thinking idiots...
Fox News’ morning show Fox & Friends pushed the conspiracy theory that a “secret society” meant to discredit President Donald Trump might actually exist in the FBI.
The story originated when Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) and Rep. John Ratcliffe (R-TX) claimed on another Fox show, The Story, that in a text message exchange after the 2016 election, FBI agent Peter Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page said, “Perhaps this is the first meeting of the secret society.” Gowdy omitted any context and offered no evidence to show that such a text, which has not been released, wouldn’t have been facetious.
Conservative media and Trump allies have repeatedly attempted to scandalize texts between Strzok and Page, who were in a personal relationship, alleging that they and other FBI officials were working against Trump during the election. But as HuffPost noted, “Most of the information that came out of the bureau during the election was damaging to Hillary Clinton, not Trump,” and Strzok and Page “exchanged texts slamming politicians and officials of all ideological stripes, not just Trump.”
The “secret society” conspiracy theory is gaining traction on other right-wing media outlets as well. Sean Hannity tweeted, "FBI CONSPIRACY? Text Messages Show Anti-Trump 'SECRET SOCIETY' at DOJ." Breitbart published an article suggesting an association between this “secret society” and the recently reported missing text messages between Strzok and Page. The Gateway Pundit ran Fox’s interview of Gowdy as the headlining story on its front page, which was later shared by Lou Dobbs and Bill Mitchell. And The Daily Caller headlined their piece, “What Deep State? Gowdy, Ratcliffe: Texts Uncover Anti-Trump ‘Secret Society’ At FBI.”
Deep state is a euphemism for changing the subject away from the inevitable obstruction of justice charge with impeachment....
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
They clearly demonstrated that his post was nothing more than his opinions that the FBI was corrupt and irresponsible. It's not difficult difficult because his opinions were not supported by the facts.
The facts are the facts. Whatever "opinions" are being generated are based on factual text messages, factual FISA warrants, and factual conversations within the FBI that suggest that they played politics with their criminal investigations.
Those facts are NOT disputed by you posting conspiracy theories about how someone being killed must mean that the thoroughly debunked Trump dossier was true. Not only does your story not pass even the most basic smell test, even if it did... it wouldn't change the fact that a FICA judge was mislead in order for the Obama DOJ to legally spy on people within the Trump campaign. By mislead, we are talking specifically that the Judge was not told it was paid opposition research and was incorrectly provided with the implications that they had checked out and verified relevant parts of it.
We know now that the only verification they had about any of it was that Carter Page was in Russia (for completely different purposes) around the time that they claim he was taking nefarious meetings. Putting someone in the same country would not be enough (and that's all they had) to get a FICA warrant to spy on an American citizen. Certainly not enough to spy on someone working for the Presidential campaign of the opposition party..
So Rog...
The fact that you believe that because there is some other opinions from other people that are not the same as mine (in this case the prevailing opinion in most circles) doesn't debunk it.
Here is a clue Roger. You want to debunk the idea that the DOJ/FBI went to a FICA court and mislead a judge to get a warrant... then you have to actually show that this didn't happen.
Cutting and pasting a conspiracy theory that jumps to the conclusion that the dossier was true because someone is dead... and then claiming it debunks the claims about the DOJ/FBI makes absolutely no sense. Only a drooling imbecile would believe that it is relevant.
Are you a drooling imbecile Roger?
or are you willing to admit that you didn't debunk anything?
Because it's one or the other.
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I would bet a hundred bucks that you could match what I do every day and more" alky
Ok, I take your bet, I will not walk in you gym. Pay up.
Debunked on steroids CH.
Page: Oh god █████
Page: What is she saying?
Page: She does realize you’ve been in EVERY conversation that has been had about this case, right?
Strzok: That we should have gone on the record saying Kallstrom and others are not credible (which may be valid), but then saying we could pull his tolls if we wanted to. Because she knows all about our policy regarding investigations of members of the media.
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Strzok: Yes but she’s an expert who knows everything. I’m telling you, it’s wildly infuriating. She has good points but then assumes wildly impossible understanding of things to make groundless assertions.
Strzok: Told her twice she was either calling me stupid or a liar.
Page: Uh, what crimes are we investigating? And I’m sorry, that’s a terrible idea. Going to war with the formers?
Page: Jesus, █████. I’m sorry. That would make me blind with rage.
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Strzok: Leaking information about ongoing investigations. Which is incorrect information. By agents who don’t know about things talking to him. See? That’s the thing. Her initial point, that we should have gone after the agents talking harder and sooner, is not unreasonable. But the subsequent discussion falls into uniformed assertions.
“Pulling his tolls” is FBI-speak for using an administrative subpoena to obtain phone records. If they were part of a “deep state” operation to keep Trump from being elected, weaponizing government power to target a critic of the FBI and root out anti-Clinton forces within the bureau would’ve been a pretty solid move.
Yet both Page and Strzok recoiled at this suggestion. Strzok found the criticism and the woman’s suggestion “wildly infuriating.” Page, an FBI lawyer, said that the criticism would’ve made her “blind with rage” and wondered what possible legal basis there could be for obtaining Kallstrom’s phone records. The texts make clear that both Strzok and Page were frustrated by stories that reflected poorly upon the FBI’s handling of the Clinton probe and elsewhere suggest that Page may have spoken with a reporter, evidently in defense of the bureau’s actions in the Clinton Foundation investigation. But in their texts on the eve of Trump’s election, both seem to recognize that obtaining phone records of a former FBI official to hunt down his anti-Clinton sources within the bureau was a pretty bad idea.
It was a bad idea CH. The critical mistake was that you went in with a predetermined objection, that there is a "secret society" within the FBI and Mueller was involved, and a special counsel to investigate the "Secret Society" and Muller. Boom
You cut and pasted incomplete portions of data that you believe confirmed your theory. But
Strzok found the criticism and the woman’s suggestion “wildly infuriating.” Page, an FBI lawyer, said that the criticism would’ve made her “blind with rage” and wondered what possible legal basis there could be for obtaining Kallstrom’s phone records. The texts make clear that both Strzok and Page were frustrated by stories that reflected poorly upon the FBI’s handling of the Clinton probe and elsewhere suggest that Page may have spoken with a reporter, evidently in defense of the bureau’s actions in the Clinton Foundation investigation. But in their texts on the eve of Trump’s election, both seem to recognize that obtaining phone records of a former FBI official to hunt down his anti-Clinton sources within the bureau was a pretty bad idea.
their texts on the eve of Trump’s election, both seem to recognize that obtaining phone records of a former FBI official to hunt down his anti-Clinton sources within the bureau was a pretty bad idea.
The "Secret Society" major players thought it was a (pretty bad idea).
Next
People who have far more experience in the art of politics and the underlying motives you claim are facts, that exposed the Secret Society are not based upon opinions but the truth.
This is the truth.
their texts on the eve of Trump’s election, both seem to recognize that obtaining phone records of a former FBI official to hunt down his anti-Clinton sources within the bureau was a pretty bad idea.
It was a bad idea CH. The critical mistake was that you went in with a predetermined objection, that there is a "secret society" within the FBI and Mueller was involved, and a special counsel to investigate the "Secret Society" and Muller. Boom
I have not mentioned anything about a secret society and you still have not factually disputed any of the key arguments. All you are doing is randomly cutting and pasting stories because you have no brain cells left to think for yourself.
Get a grip and pay attention.
or stop making a fool of yourself, if you are unwilling to do either.
Among those messages were one from Strzok disparaging Trump as a “douche” and one from Page lamenting that “[t]his man cannot be president.” Comments like these suggested to some that Strzok was hopelessly compromised in the work he’d done. (It was the discovery of these messages that led Mueller to remove Strzok from his team.)
But previously Strzok said that it was a pretty bad idea CH.
Here is the deal Roger:
I will recap, since you obviously are incapable of reading.
1) My post suggested that sources are saying that the dossier was used as justification for FISA warrant and that the Judge in question was not told that it was paid opposition research and unverified. This is apparently included in what the GOP wants to declassify.
You have done nothing to dispute this.
2) My post suggested that a FISA Court opinion accused the DOJ/FBI of lying to the court, and abusing materials obtained through the surveillance.
You have done nothing to dispute this.
3) My post suggested that congressional committees have found text messages from Strzok and Page that suggested that they already knew that Clinton was not going to be charge.
You have done nothing to dispute this.
4) My post suggested that the FBI failed to preserve five months worth of text messages between Strzok and Page.
You have done nothing to dispute this.
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Those are the four points I made in my post Roger.
You have disputed none of them.
Yet, in your infinite genius, you still insist that you have?
Either you are very, very stupid.
You are simply incapable of rational thought.
Or you are not sober.
Shenanigans must be done by a group of people. The fact that you didn't use the Secret Society term, but Shenanigans must be done by a group of people who are a secret society within the FBI.
You are in anger the Page-Strzok affair, and what it may say about bias in the FBI, You in particular, are upset because the FBI does have several of the messages between Page and Strzok.
I posted them.
The warrant was issued according to you was based upon lies. I'm not going to c/p the dozens of opinions by lawyers, not a business degree blogger.
rrb disease.
Either you are very, very stupid.
You are simply incapable of rational thought.
Or you are not sober.
Life is just wonderful. I had the procedure Tuesday afternoon. I but in 1.5 hours yesterday my Fitbit device said that I burned 2,000 calories.
Monday afternoon
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
I would bet a hundred bucks that you could match what I do every day and more" alky
Ok, I take your bet, I will not walk in you gym. Pay up.
but Shenanigans must be done by a group of people who are a secret society within the FBI
Really? Must be, huh? Throughout the history of the world, every time someone used the term "shenanigans" they have been referring specifically to a secret society within the FBI?
Is that seriously your argument?
Because I have heard the term used for any number of deceptive, unethical, behind the scenes activities, 99.999999% of which had nothing to do with FBI secret societies.
You would be better off just offering the truth that you didn't read past the headline.
1.5 hours and the bionic man burned "2000 calories".
Hmmm is that even biologically possible?
I mean for real, is it?
I but in 1.5 hours yesterday my Fitbit device said that I burned 2,000 calories.
Well hopefully your broken Fitbit is still under warranty and you can replace it with one that works properly.
Hmmm is that even biologically possible?
A guy about my size can burn about 1800 calories running a half marathon in about two hours. That's 450 calories per 30 minutes.
Roger, however... because of his genius IQ no doubt, is able to burn 667 calories per 30 minutes while lifting weights.
Or his Fitbit is broken.
Or he is just totally making it up.
"I burned 2,000 calories."
Imagine if Trump had said this, we'd be having cut-n-paste hell through that firestorm of outrage.
ROFLMFAO !!!
The fact that Mueller's team has already spoken to Comey and Sessions and now wants to talk to the President suggests the investigation into whether Trump obstructed justice by asking the former FBI director to go easy on former national security adviser Michael Flynn and then fired him when he demurred, is at an advanced stage. CNN also reported last week that Trump's former top political adviser Steve Bannon had struck a deal to be interviewed by Mueller's prosecutors.
"It seems to indicate that the investigation is in its 11th hour," said Jens David Ohlin, a professor and vice dean at Cornell Law School.
Ohlin said the seniority of those questioned points to Mueller reaching a defining moment at least in the obstruction of justice portion of an investigation that is also considering whether anyone in the Trump campaign broke the law by cooperating with a Russian election meddling effort.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
It's new. I didn't believe it either.
But I did kick my ass. It's not fat like rrb
Here you go.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/24/high-level-fbi-officials-allegedly-involved-in-strzok-page-secret-society.amp.html
"Roger, however... because of his genius IQ no doubt, is able to burn 667 calories per 30 minutes while lifting weights".
I did not belive it possible.
Roger, send your $100 to CHT PayPal account. You lost your bet to me.
So Roger's "2,000 calories in 1.5 hrs was full on BS.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/24/high-level-fbi-officials-allegedly-involved-in-strzok-page-secret-society.amp.htm
Do you understand the concept of distinction?
Just because someone is talking about the so called FBI Secret Society... doesn't mean that my post had anything what-so-ever to do with it.
I watched the entire sentencing. Very moving.
LANSING, Mich. (AP) — The former sports doctor who admitted molesting some of the nation's top gymnasts for years under the guise of medical treatment was sentenced Wednesday to 40 to 175 years in prison by a judge who proudly told him, "I just signed your death warrant."
The sentence capped a remarkable seven-day hearing in which scores of Larry Nassar's victims were able to confront him face to face in a Michigan courtroom.
"It is my honor and privilege to sentence you. You do not deserve to walk outside a prison ever again. You have done nothing to control those urges and anywhere you walk, destruction will occur to those most vulnerable," Judge Rosemarie Aquilina said.
Nassar's actions were "precise, calculated, manipulative, devious, despicable," she said.
When the hearing ended, the courtroom broke into applause. Victims and prosecutors embraced at the conclusion of the grueling 16-month case.
It was the second long-term prison sentence for the 54-year-old physician. He has also been sentenced to 60 years in federal prison for child pornography crimes.
A prosecutor said Nassar found competitive gymnastics to be a "perfect place" for his crimes because victims saw him as a "god" in the sport.
Shenanigans must be done by a group of people
Shenanigans must be done by a group of people
And by Roger logic... that means a secret society, huh?
Oh one person could do Shenanigans. But in the real world, Shenanigans would probably be done by a group of people.
Your (logic) is ..interesting. The fact that you didn't use the Secret Society doesn't mean that a group of people wasn't those who weren't a Secret Society.
What really bugs me, is attacking the justice system and the FBI, are the tactics used by Dictatorships. Even if you are guilty as hell, many people like you won't believe that he is guilty because of Shenanigans
Please tell me this is incorrect.
FBI Agent Shruck, interviewed Hillary.
And was named to the Muller team?
Like I said ,I hope this is wrong.
Shenanigans must be done by a group of people." Alky
"Must", nope
Wrong
One day at a time my friend and because of the back pain procedure, I'm not taking the Norco. No pain, no pill. I have survived because I got outstanding medical care and regular exercise training prior to the surgery table.
You should quit acting like rrb.
It's just another wonderful day to be alive and well. I'm watching Mudbound. You should too. It's on Netflix.
Actually Roger...
This is simple. The President of the United States leads the Department of Justice. Puts his or her own person in charge. That Person is personally in charge of the FBI Dirctor.
The Party of the President then pays someone to dig up dirt on a political opponent. Then they use this dirt (unverified) to give the DOJ and the Law Enforcement under their charge...to make a dishonest case before a secret court... that then gives them permission to spy on their political opponent's campaign and start a politically damaging investigation.
This investigation is now nearly two years old, and has yet to verify a single claim made by the original "opposition research".
This is what Dictators do, Roger... They abuse the power under their charge. This is how people like Hussein, Putin, and others stay in charge. Using the government that they are in charge of to go after their political opponents... either arresting them, damaging them, or otherwise intimidating them into not running.
You never saw Hussein investigating the Republican Guard for possible abuse. You have never seen Putin investigate the Russian law enforcement for being partisan in his favor.
It's not the investigation that is a dictator quality.
It's the abuse of the law enforcement under your command.
If the Obama DOJ and FBI are innocent, and you believe that they are innocent, then let's devote the next two years of the country's time and energy going through a very public investigation of Lynch, Obama, Clinton, Comey, Strzok, Page, etc... to verify that you are correct.
But I would bet quite a lot that such an investigation would actually worry you... and this whole "Trump is hitler" crap is an excuse.
Shenanigans Done In Jest?
For the past 24 hours, a number of Republican lawmakers have been suggesting that a months-old text message between two FBI officials reveals a "secret society" of federal law enforcement officials clandestinely plotting against President Donald Trump.
Lawmakers have refused to publicly release the full text message, sent the day after Trump won the 2016 presidential election. But ABC News has obtained a copy of the one message that Republicans appear to be citing, and it's unclear if the message's reference to a “secret society” may have been made in jest.
"Are you even going to give out your calendars? Seems kind of depressing. Maybe it should just be the first meeting of the secret society," FBI lawyer Lisa Page wrote to senior FBI agent Peter Strzok, who was working on the FBI’s probe of Russian meddling in the presidential election and would later join Page for a brief period on Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team.
That text stands alone in the series of messages obtained by ABC News – with no apparent tie to other messages sent before or after it.
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In another text message obtained by ABC News, sent the day after the presidential election in November 2016, Strzok told Page: "Omg I am so depressed."
Those texts are among a large cache of messages handed over to House and Senate committees in the past two months. After recent news accounts reported that Strzok was axed from Mueller's team for sending potentially anti-Trump messages, lawmakers demanded to see the messages for themselves.
On Friday, the Justice Department handed the Senate Homeland Security Committee and other committees a new batch of more than 1,000 messages sent between Strzok and Page. The messages newly obtained by ABC News were in that set.
Asked Wednesday whether he believes there’s a "secret society" inside the FBI to take down the president, the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wisc., said, "That's Strzok and Page’s term."
"Everything I take with a grain of salt," he added. "[But] I've heard from an individual that ... there was a group of managers within the FBI that were holding meetings off site."
So "when Strzok and Page had described a secret society, that didn't surprise me because I had corroborating information," Johnson said.
He declined to describe the "whistleblower" in any way, and he said he did not know what the FBI's "off-site" meetings might have entailed.
Nevertheless, he said he is "trying to be as transparent as possible."
Text messages between Strzok and Page were first discovered after the Justice Department's inspector general launched an investigation early last year to look at how the Justice Department and FBI handled matters related to the 2016 presidential election, including the criminal investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server, which resulted in no charges.
Last month, the Justice Department publicly released about 375 of the messages, including those in which Strzok repeatedly called Trump an "idiot."
Republican lawmakers pounced on the messages as evidence that the FBI and special counsel probes – with Strzok's involvement – were propelled by political bias.
But in a May 2017 text message from Strzok released by Johnson on Monday, Strzok expressed reticence to join Mueller's team, saying he believed "there's no big there there."
And Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein has dismissed such suggestions, insisting there is nobody "better qualified for this job" than Mueller and noting "political affiliation" is not the same as political "bias."
"We recognize we have employees with political opinions. It's our responsibility to make sure those opinions do not influence their actions," Rosenstein recently told a House panel.
Meanwhile, Trump and his Republican allies are raising concerns over a five-month gap of text messages missing from the FBI's systems.
They have described the missing texts as a major scandal. But according to the Justice Department, the five months' worth of messages are missing due to a "technical" glitch and "misconfiguration issues" after the FBI tried to upgrade the devices used by its agents in the field.
The Republican chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Richard Burr, R-North Carolina, said he believes the Justice Department’s explanation and described the FBI as being cooperative in providing documents to his committee for its investigation looking at Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/full-secret-society-text-fbi-agents-meant-jest/story?id=52592241
Stock interview Hillary cleared her of any illegal doings and then gets named by Muller to investigate Trump?
That can't possibly be correct.
Obama knew.
Lois Learner , lost 1000 emails while abusing her position at the IRS.
Hillary Clinton , lost 33,000 emails.
Now the cheating Whore Duo of Strozk - Page lost 5 months of emails.
I am sure they are just really bad with technology.
Yet, every other email they kept.
CH If the Obama DOJ and FBI had investigated the campaign of McCain or Romney, for corruption?
If Obama had gotten support from a foreign nation I would have been disturbed. If President Obama had asked his FBI director to quit investigating the support from the foreign nation, I would have been disturbed and would not have stood beside him because I don't like the Republicans like you stand behind Trump for everything because you hate the Democrats.
You didn't seem to have a problem with my discomfort with Trump and his use of the DOJ and FBI, only if I would have been against crimes by Obama. I am intellectually honest and been very upset with Obama.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
Trump and his Republican allies are raising concerns over a five-month gap of text messages missing from the FBI's systems.
They have described the missing texts as a major scandal. But according to the Justice Department, the five months' worth of messages are missing due to a "technical" glitch and "misconfiguration issues" after the FBI tried to upgrade the devices used by its agents in the field.
Glitches are common in computer systems, so it's very possible that there was no (Secret Society), or Shenanigans.
K'putz go fuck Daisy is crying out in pain. Quit forging the post.
Right, They Blamed Samsung, that is until Samsung, told them to fuck of it was not our doing.
They lost just the emails between dirty leg Page and Peter the cheater Schmuck or All FBI emails from All Agents during those 5 months?
The k'putz is making a shithole fool of himself again.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
So which is it?
A. Trump didn't ask McCabe who he voted for.
B. Trump did ask, but doesn't remember.
C. Trump could have asked, because he'd ask other people, such as reporters who don't work in the federal govt.
D. Trump did ask, but it's "unimportant."
Apparently, it's E. All of the above, with H. Clinton whataboutism thrown in too.
"I don't think I did," Trump said. "I don't know what's the big deal with that. I would ask you who you voted for. . . . I don't remember asking him that question."
"I think it's also a very unimportant question," Trump added.
Floppin' Crappie Trump, the "Great" Equivocater.
My niece is a gift from God.
Trump Says He’ll Speak to Mueller Under Oath
President Trump said that he was willing to speak under oath to Robert Mueller, the special counsel investigating Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential campaign, the New York Times reports.
Said Trump: “I’m looking forward to it.” "100%"
January 25, 2018 at 12:15 AM
Lawyer Walks Back Trump’s Comments on Mueller
Ty Cobb, the White House lawyer leading the response to the Russia investigation, told the New York Times that President Trump “was speaking hurriedly and intended only to say that he was willing to meet” with special counsel Robert Mueller and not necessarily be interviewed under oath.
Said Cobb: “He’s ready to meet with them, but he’ll be guided by the advice of his personal counsel.”
He will never testify under oath in front of a grand jury.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
The k'putz is making a shithole fool of himself again.
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he is?
he's not the one countering every one of CH's detailed and thoughtful posts with a copy/paste.
you are, alky.
Fox had a news alert: “Texts Resist Trump.” Sean Hannity tweeted: “FBI SHENANIGANS" Text Messages Show Shenanigans-Anti Trump ‘" DOJ.” Breitbart and Daily Caller joined in and The Coldheartedtruth.
Rush Limbaugh said he was “not surprised there’s are "Shenanigans” going after Trump, and he alleged that the Shenanigans cooked up fake intelligence to goad George W. Bush into a dumb war. “What if the intel on the war in Iraq was another disinformation campaign to damage another Republican president?” Limbaugh asked.
Exactly! And what if Ted Cruz’s dad, after killing President Kennedy, forged Barack Obama’s birth certificate?
But we do not have to speculate about these Shenanigans for I have obtained, at great personal risk, the following leaked minutes from the Shenanigans on Inauguration Day last year:
20th January, anno Domini 2017
The Shenanigans or Harassing and Impeaching Trump with Hearsay, Outrageous Lies and Extralegal Schemes
Recording Secretary: Amick R.L.
Dana Milbank,
Edit by Roger Amick
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-secret-society-dedicated-to-making-trump-look-bad/2018/01/24/d0ba9d0e-0156-11e8-9d31-d72cf78dbeee_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.2411d8caa836
The Shenanigans society would secretly edit video footage and transcripts to show Trump shoving a world leader and insulting leaders of friendly countries such as Australia, Britain and Sweden. This would make Trump sound like a bully.
The Show society would infiltrate White House policy so Trump would add trillions of dollars to the deficit to give billionaires a huge tax break. This would make Trump sound like a liar.
The society would convince Trump to say kind things about white supremacists, and to use a filthy word to describe African countries. This would make Trump sound like a racist.
The society, finally, would convince Trump to fire an FBI director, hire a guy named “Mooch” and declare himself a “stable genius.” This would make it clear he was neither.
Worshipful Master Podesta called for discussion.
Senior Warden Comey said the proposals sounded “too far-fetched.” Grand sword bearer Clapper said it would be “impossible” to get Trump to say and do such things. Pursuivant McCabe said people would never believe such “outlandish” things, anyway.
The recommendations were defeated en bloc. The society adjourned.
Twitter: @Milbank
When Trump asked McCabe who he voted for, McCabe should have answered, "None of your fucking business, you disgusting prick!"
The perpetually racist rodent bigot didn't notice that I wrote several times in response to CH. But I also used facts that undermined his entire shenanigans comments.
Including the entire email string that repudiated the President and the congressional republicans attacks against a so called Secret Society aka shenanigans conspiracy against the President. On Fox News multiple congressional leaders made outrageous comments about the FBI. The entire string of emails was simply a sarcastic and humorous, not a get Trump Secret Society, as the Republicans claimed.
Trump will never appear in a Grand Jury hearing. Despite his repeated 100% comments.
You will support the President on this blog. As will CH if he has the testicles big enough to address it with a post.
ight, They Blamed Samsung, that is until Samsung, told them to fuck of it was not our doing.
They lost just the emails between dirty leg Page and Peter the cheater Schmuck or All FBI emails from All Agents during those 5 months?
So for me to be made a fool I have to be wrong, so cripple get at it.
KD again can't get a correct fact....said...
They lost just the emails
Gee, the reports say texts, not e-mail...I expect the kansas dolt to correct his error...but I know he won't LOLOLOLO
Ok, texts, got that wrong.
So when are those Text me a ages recovered.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
So when are those Text me a ages recovered.
Right after they find the secret server.....
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