That seems to be the major consensus at this point. Liberals are saying that the Democrats caved. Conservatives are saying that the Democrats caved. FOX reports that Schumer and gang caved and blinked. CNN and MSNBC are reporting just the facts (suggesting they cannot find anything in the deal to claim any sort of Democratic victory).
Moving forward, both groups agreed to work on comprehensive immigration reform, with some mixed messages about DACA. Schumer suggested that if there is no agreement on comprehensive immigration reform before Feb 8th, that a clean DACA bill will be put up for vote. But McConnell and others are simply suggesting that they are opening up the floor to debate, and will allow amendments from both sides as part of the process. There has been no acknowledgement from any Republicans that they agreed to pass (or even vote on) a clean DACA fix at any point. There is no guarantee that such a clean vote would pass the House, get 60 votes in the Senate, or be signed by the President (considering passing a clean DACA bill basically guarantees an end to any comprehensive immigration bill).
Perhaps this is more of a threat by Schumer and Democrats, that if an immigration deal is not reached prior to the Feb 8th deadline, that they will again push a shutdown over DACA. But if that strategy didn't work today, it won't work on Feb 8th. Especially considering the two sides will have over two weeks to work out the endgame to an immigration bill that they have already been working on for months.
The reality that Schumer and the Democrats have to accept is that there will be no DACA fix that is not part of a comprehensive immigration deal where they have to concede to both Trump and Republicans on several points. Yeah, this will piss off their base. But it may be their only way forward.
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Dems Fold on This Shutdown, But the Next One Could Be Worse
Chuck Schumer accepted Mitch McConnell’s promise to vote on Dreamers in exchange for reopening the government. If he breaks that promise, all hell will break loose.
Two truths emerged from a deal that the Senate cut on Monday to re-open the federal government after a weekend-long shutdown. The first is that Democrats caved. The second is that they find themselves somewhat better positioned for what is likely to be another, far more bitter, shutdown battle in the coming weeks.
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) announced on Monday that he would accept a deal that would fund the government through Feb. 8 in exchange for a relatively vague promise from Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-K.Y.) to bring up legislation that would address the so-called Dreamers—undocumented youth brought to the U.S. illegally.
The deal was, on its surface, devoid of a major win for either party—but especially for Democrats. Republicans kicked the can down the road on government funding, but they also gave no concrete policy concessions in exchange for votes. A majority of Senate Democrats sided with them anyway.
“Are you looking for a spine?” one top Senate Democratic aide told The Daily Beast after the Senate vote concluded. “Because, I don’t have one to sell you.”
But the loss obscured what others saw as a longer term gain for Democrats. As Congress now goes about considering immigration reform, there are new political variables at play.
Republicans no longer have children’s health care as a political cudgel against Democrats, since the bill that passed on Monday includes a six-year authorization for the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP). And McConnell is on the spot to follow through on his pledge to resolve the standoff over the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.
In caucus meetings, Senate Democrats made the case that they need to show Republicans that they are willing to go to extreme lengths—even forcing another shutdown next month—in order to salvage DACA protections. Liberal activists are expected to mobilize a campaign to pressure Democrats to keep their word.
The Democrats who voted for the stopgap funding extension on Monday argued that McConnell’s promise was so public that it would be a political disaster for the majority leader if he reneged.
“There is no way that we would have been on immigration had we not forced the issue,” Sen. Brian Schatz (D-HI) told The Daily Beast, characterizing the shutdown as a victory. “This is the first time ever that, under Republican control, we’re taking up this issue. … Had we not stood firm, there’s no way that Leader McConnell would be taking up DACA.”
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
the panic within the liberal looney toon base and the media is palpable. mitch doesn't have to do a fucking thing other than bring it to the floor for debate.
and comprehensive immigration reform? fuck that. comprehensive = amnesty. we need FUNDING for the wall (we already have authorization), and we need to tell democrats to go fuck themselves over DACA.
DACA?
no.
MAGA.
Winning!
Liberal Activists Are Furious That Democrats “Caved” on the Shutdown
“There need to be repercussions for selling out Dreamers.”
TIM MURPHY
JAN. 22, 2018 2:59 PM Mother Jones
When Schumer gets trashed on Mommy Jones you know he screwed the pooch.
“There need to be repercussions for selling out Dreamers.”
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yet liberals would sell out with glee the AMERICAN'S who pick up the dreaming beaners tab.
good grief. our nation is BEYOND fucked up. thanks 0linsky.
Of the last five generic ballot polls taken, four show the Dems’ lead cut in half from the heights of mid-December, when they were leading consistently by margins of 10 points are better. If you missed this post on Friday night about NBC’s latest survey, that’ll catch you up on the other numbers. The most dramatic example of the trend towards Republicans comes in today’s new one from CNN, which has Republicans trailing by just five points among registered voters. A month ago, CNN had Republicans down … 18. No typo. Eighteen points on the generic ballot, when usually a lead of eight or nine is enough to signal a major midterm wave on the horizon. That 18-point lead in December was the largest margin notched by any generic ballot poll in 2017 tracked by RCP and might well have been the largest in many years. And now, in the span of 30 days or so, more than two-thirds of that lead is up in smoke. Thanks, tax cuts!
https://hotair.com/archives/2018/01/22/another-midterm-poll-shows-democrats-generic-ballot-lead-shrinking/
Yep.
Those 8 lost years twisted a lot of shit.
Every Deranged Dem is in for repeat of the Schumer Shutdown Act 2 . I support that looming shutdown.
And now, in the span of 30 days or so, more than two-thirds of that lead is up in smoke. Thanks, tax cuts!" RRB
Yep, and a majority of those cuts have not hit paychecks. US self employed people are already reaping the lower rates.
Notice how little the gutless liberal post here on a day of unprecedented beat down.
Trump’s First-Year Approval Worst by 10 Points
Gallup: “President Trump’s job approval rating averaged 38.4% during his first year in office — more than 10 percentage points lower than any other elected president’s first-year average.”
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Political History, White House
More Tax Cuts Included in Government Funding Bill
New York Times: “The deal struck by Democrats and Republicans on Monday to end a brief government shutdown contains $31 billion in tax cuts, including a temporary delay in implementing three health care-related taxes.
“Those delays, which enjoy varying degrees of bipartisan support, are not offset by any spending cuts or tax increases, and thus will add to a federal budget deficit that is already projected to increase rapidly as last year’s mammoth new tax law takes effect.”
Trump’s First-Year Approval Worst by 10 Points
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what's really funny about this pederast (and you too, alky), is that i don't think trump cares.
you guys care. trump? not so much.
he wasn't supposed to win in the first place, remember?
LOL.
“Those delays, which enjoy varying degrees of bipartisan support, are not offset by any spending cuts or tax increases, and thus will add to a federal budget deficit that is already projected to increase rapidly as last year’s mammoth new tax law takes effect.”
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and there was never any talk about paying for 0linsky's $817 BILLION shithole-ready porkulous either.
GOP presidencies: when suddenly, debts and deficits matter.
31 Billion less going to DC, More victories rolling in. See jane run.
Not every group on the left lambasted Senate Democrats on Monday.
Organizing for Action, an offshoot of the political organizing arm built by former President Barack Obama, attempted to keep the blame for the three-day shutdown on the GOP even as it offered only faint praise for the Senate agreement.
“The good news for the American people is that the government shutdown – a crisis needlessly manufactured by Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, and the White House – will soon be over," OFA spokesman Jesse Lehrich said in a statement. "But let’s be clear: This stopgap measure is not a solution. It’s merely a band-aid for a self-inflicted wound that remains untreated."
Schumer spokesman Matt House urged all supporters of Dreamer aid to come together around securing the strongest possible showing for an immigration deal next month, when McConnell has vowed to move to a debate on the issue.
“Let’s take advantage of the renewed attention and sympathy for Dreamers, and focus on winning the vote 17 days from now," Matt House said by email.
House Democratic leaders are expected to vote against the Senate's three-week government funding patch, which cleared a key procedural hurdle on an 81-18 vote. That opposition may ensure that the ire of activists remains trained on the upper chamber, where only 16 Democrats voted against advancing the stopgap bill.
31 Billion less going to DC, More victories rolling in. See jane run.
Notice how little the gutless liberal post here on a day of unprecedented beat down.
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i think the alky had to go spring mail order bride out of the medicaid wing.
HB said the 800,000 DACA Adults are Americans in everyway but they are not US Citizens. Illegals.
But, HB is not alone.
2020 front Runner Kamaltoe Harris said
"Our government made a promise to our Dreamers and it is long past time that we kept that promise. These are young people who are Americans in every respect except on paper.".
Yep, illegal.
These are young people who are Americans in every respect except on paper.".
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she's supposedly a fucking lawyer. to a real lawyer the only thing that matters is what's on paper.
from my email -
het dreamers, try having your parents sneak you into disneyland and then blame disney for kicking you out.
LOL.
Lol,
Still noticing the liberals of CHT are off liking their wounds.
President Donald Trump has signed into law a bill that ends the government shutdown, and provides congressional negotiators with additional time to hammer out an immigration reform package capable of passing both the House and Senate.
Hundreds of thousands of federal employees are expected to return to work on Tuesday morning, after spending the day Monday on furlough.
The bill funds the government for 17 days, and it funds the popular CHIP children's insurance program for six years. It does not include a permanent fix for the Obama-era DACA program, which Senate Democrats had originally demanded.
Negotiations over the bill took place almost entirely in the Senate, where on Friday night, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell had been unable to reach the 60 vote threshold required to keep the government open.
But on Monday morning, the first official day of government employee furloughs, McConnell said he intends to bring DACA and other immigration issues up for debate before Feb. 8. Later, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer confirmed an agreement to reopen the government and tackle immigration within three weeks.
Trump had been largely absent from negotiations for the past three days, speaking to congressional Republicans by phone, but refusing to speak with Democrats.
Following an initial Senate vote on Monday, the president issued a statement saying he was "pleased that Democrats in Congress have come to their senses."
Trump also pledged, "once the Government is funded, my administration will work toward solving the problem of very unfair illegal immigration. We will make a long-term deal on immigration if, and only if, it is good for our country."
How such a deal might be structured, so as to have a chance of passing the Republican controlled House, is fast becoming the thorniest question in Washington D.C.
Christina Wilkie
Democrats need to accept that a government shutdown "last stand" is not the way to go about it, even if it was a political net positive. Most Americans blamed the Republican stubbornness for the short shutdown, approve of the Democrats' aims with DACA, yet disapprove of shutting the federal government down, so a short stall is the best they can hope for, and still come out looking better than the Republicans. Not that it will matter either way in two months.
As far as DACA itself, the Democrats need to stick to their guns and if so they will prevail. It will probably help when McConnell inevitably reneges on his deal - even if tries to honor it in good faith, his own members are certain to balk at honest debate let alone a vote. The Democrats will leverage that, and if it comes to a shutdown showdown again they will be seen as having more reasonable justification for it.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
"Net positive" lol , fucking joking right?
Oh, how sad IF, you actually were being serious.
That's pretty much how I see it as well, WP. The longer a shutdown continued, the more the Democrats would be blamed for it. They did a good job of blaming Republicans (especially Trump and his staff) for precipitating the shutdown, but weren't going to get any real concessions at this point.
What is the "fix" for the illegal adults called daca?
This wasn't a victory for the President. He had little or no impact on the vote. He was silenced by the staff.
The Democrats knew it was a no win situation. Nine months from now, it won't have an impact on the blue wave in November.
McConnell knows that he can't believe anything coming from the President. He said that DACA will be addressed. They will fund the wall that he promised Mexico would pay for. But the immigration reform bill might just get passed in the Senate. But in the house, the anti-(freedom caucus) may again block it from even taken to the floor.
Net negative is likely, because even though it won't impact the blue wave in November. But unless they can avoid another shut down this one will be the Trump government shutdown.
I don't think that the President is going to be a major factor, because he doesn't have a clue on how to govern. And his staff will keep him under a tight rein.
Lol@ liberals.
Yep keep telling yourself you won.
"How Democrats lost the shutdown
Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large
Updated 8:21 PM EST, Mon January 22, 2018"
Mother Jones was in tears over the loss, so was huffpo.
If democrats had successfully laid blame for the shutdown on Republicans as the lefties here claim, they would have continued it.
Schumer caved because he was losing and knew it. It was quickly becoming known as the Schumer shutdown.
The Schumer Shutdown,,, well, the leftist are threatening another in three weeks.
I support them. But next time actual find a pair of BALLS. HILLARY has a set.
The president killed off all attempts at compromise, then went dark after the government shut down, refusing to say what he would support on immigration or even to engage in negotiations. But in this leadership vacuum, something remarkable happened: Twenty-five senators, from both parties, rediscovered their role as lawmakers. They crafted a deal over the weekend that offers a possible path forward, and, in dramatic fashion on the Senate floor Monday, signaled the end of the shutdown with a lopsided 81-to-18 vote.
The agreement may not end in a long-sought immigration deal and a long-term spending plan. Trump could yet kill any deals they reach. And liberal interest groups are furious at what they see as a Democratic surrender. But Monday’s breakthrough shows there is at least the potential for lawmakers to take the wheel from an erratic and dangerous driver.
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), announcing his deal with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on the Senate floor Monday afternoon, said he hadn’t even heard from Trump since Friday, before the government closed. “The White House refused to engage in negotiations over the weekend. The great dealmaking president sat on the sidelines,” Schumer said, adding that he reached agreement with McConnell “despite and because of this frustration.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/shutdown-silver-lining-senators-rediscover-their-role-and-moderation-prevails/2018/01/22/3b02db10-ffc5-11e7-9d31-d72cf78dbeee_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-c%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.135b4213c451
The President had no involvement over the weekend. His staff has reigned in the President. He tweeted in delight tonight, but the Senate fulfilled their constitutional role.
Roger your contradicting yourself.
Nothing new just fun to point it out.
Your team got rolled , by of all people, this President.
No I didn't. You aren't smart enough to understand what I said. I'm not going to try and explain it to you. It would fly over your head.
Here is a another example of the chaos in the White House.
Attorney General Jeff Sessions — at the public urging of President Donald Trump — has been pressuring FBI Director Christopher Wray to fire Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, but Wray threatened to resign if McCabe was removed, according to three sources with direct knowledge.
Wray's resignation under those circumstances would have created a media firestorm. The White House — understandably gun-shy after the Comey debacle — didn’t want that scene, so McCabe remains.
Sessions told White House Counsel Don McGahn about how upset Wray was about the pressure on him to fire McCabe, and McGahn told Sessions this issue wasn’t worth losing the FBI Director over, according to a source familiar with the situation.
Why it matters: Trump started his presidency by pressuring one FBI Director (before canning him), and then began pressuring another (this time wanting his deputy canned). This much meddling with the FBI for this long is not normal.
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McGahn has been informed about these ongoing conversations, though he has not spoken with Wray about FBI personnel, according to an administration source briefed on the situation. Trump nominated Wray, previously an assistant attorney general under George W. Bush, last June to replace James Comey as director.
Trump has also tweeted negatively about other senior FBI officials who are allies of Comey, including the former top FBI lawyer James A. Baker who was recently “reassigned” after pressure from Sessions.
White House Principal Deputy Press Secretary Raj Shah said of Wray: “As we’ve said, the president has enormous respect for the thousands of rank and file FBI agents who make up the world’s most professional and talented law enforcement agency. He believes politically-motivated senior leaders including former Director Comey and others he empowered have tainted the agency’s reputation for unbiased pursuit of justice. The president appointed Chris Wray because he is a man of true character and integrity and the right choice to clean up the misconduct at the highest levels of the FBI and give the rank and file confidence in their leadership.”
As I reported last night, Sessions has adamantly urged Wray to make a "fresh start" with his core team.
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The President said that Comey and other people close to the Clinton campaign are responsible for the story. But they don't deny it
Pence is visiting foreign nations because they don't want to see Trump.
They think he's nuts.
Hey shit for brains, joe biden visited nearly 60 countries as vice president. I guess no one wanted to see obama either.
You aren't smart enough to understand what I said.
what YOU said?
LOL.
for chrissakes alky, every comment you post is a copy/paste. i'm not surprised if you lose track of it sometimes.
...but Wray threatened to resign if McCabe was removed, according to three sources with direct knowledge.
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gee alky, except for the part where mccabe is scheduled to retire early, your "three sources with direct knowledge" (LOL) were spot on.
Facing Republican attacks, FBI’s deputy director plans to retire early next year
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/facing-republican-attacks-fbis-deputy-director-plans-to-retire-early-next-year/2017/12/23/b4802b8c-e67a-11e7-a65d-1ac0fd7f097e_story.html?utm_term=.ba0a97a24bca
yeah, i definitely want to see the democrats go 'all-in' on protecting dreamers...
“If undocumented immigrants committed crime nationally as they do in Arizona, in 2016 they would have been responsible for over 1,000 more murders, 5,200 rapes, 8,900 robberies, 25,300 aggravated assaults, and 26,900 burglaries,” he wrote in the report.
Proponents of letting DACA recipients stay in the United States, the topic of debate in the White House and on Capitol Hill, have often portrayed the illegals as law abiding students and workers.
Those claims however has come under fire by groups armed with new statistics like Lott’s treasure trove.
“Undocumented immigrants are at least 142 percent more likely to be convicted of a crime than other Arizonans. They also tend to commit more serious crimes and serve 10.5 percent longer sentences, more likely to be classified as dangerous, and 45 percent more likely to be gang members than U.S. citizens,” he found.
And it’s worse for DACA-aged illegals.
For example, he wrote, “while undocumented immigrants from 15 to 35 years of age make up about 0.81 percent of the Arizona population, they make up almost 8 percent of the prison population.”
According to his estimates in Arizona:
DACA-age immigrants represent 71.2 percent of the undocumented immigrants in prison.
DACA-age eligible undocumented immigrants are 884 percent more likely to be convicted of crimes than their share of the population.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/report-daca-age-illegals-far-more-likely-to-commit-crimes-be-in-jail/article/2645776
trump's new ad needs to run hourly on every major media outlet. i mean, if the goal is to turn our country into a crime-ridden third world shithole, then we should go into it with our eyes wide open.
but, he had a dream...
A California Uber driver living in the country illegally has been charged with raping, assaulting and robbing at least four young women.
Alfonso Alarcon-Nunez, 39, faces 10 criminal charges, including forcible rape, rape of an intoxicated victim, oral copulation of an intoxicated victim and first degree burglary. He pleaded not guilty to all 10 counts Monday and was being held on $1.4 million bail.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/22/mexican-uber-driver-in-us-illegally-charged-with-four-rapes.html
Trump had been largely absent from negotiations for the past three days, speaking to congressional Republicans by phone, but refusing to speak with Democrats.
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and i would call that a "winning BIGLY" strategery, alky.
MAGA, not DACA.
Rat the hole posted....
and i would call that a "winning BIGLY" strategy, alky.
And losers like you and the kansan dolt think that way.....Getting chips for six years is winning bigly for kids.....while you get to pay for it....LOLOLOL
Always more to the story than rat hole cherry picks.....how did this happen???? A wall sure would have prevented this and it is not related to dreamers.......sad
Alarcon-Nunez returned to the U.S. illegally after a voluntary deportation from New Mexico in 2005, officials said. Dow did not have details about why he was deported or whether he has a criminal record in the U.S.
Getting chips for six years is winning bigly for kids.....while you get to pay for it....
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that's the thing about us conservatives, d0pie... we don't mind covering the cost of health care for poor children. keyword - children.
criminal illegals and able-bodied citizens on the other hand, not so much.
oh, and your daughters snatch infection? that's on you.
DACA has become so central to the Democratic base that it risks fracturing the party unless Schumer and others get some substantial concession from Trump. If they don’t, and Democrats accept a water-down DACA deal that doesn’t create a million new citizens, plus preserve chain migration so that million becomes several million, the Democrat base will flip out.
Trump could fracture the Democrat Party by permitting DACA recipients to stay in the country — something he has said he wants to allow — but insisting on such other terms and limitations as to present Democrats in Congress with an impossible choice between no DACA deal and a “bad” DACA deal.
That assumes, of course, that Trump holds the line. If Trump does hold the line, the result could be a Democrat Party torn apart with recriminations.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/01/schumershutdown-after-assessment-democrats-have-boxed-themselves-in-on-daca/
sure, let them stay. they just can't vote for 50 years.
Will Trump finally "man up" and show that he really does have some principles and decency?
Probably Not:
Shutdown truce just delays Trump's big dilemma
Analysis by Stephen Collinson, CNN 5 hrs ago
The Schumer Shutdown historical a blunder like no other.
The loss to Trump over the unneeded shutdown of the US Govt is really butt hurting the Liberals.
Huffpo
Abc
Cbs
Cnn
Mother jones
Blacklivesmurders
Dem underground
Code pink
Media matters
#resist
Are pissed at the the quick cave of Schumer.
Rooger your contradicting yourself.
Don't blame me for you getting lost.
You blame your poor gene pool for your many health problems.
Good Morning Opie.
I see you're for defunding CHIP, why?
Shutdown truce just delays Trump's big dilemma
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trump's dilemma???
HA!!!
oh, i get it - "Anal-ysis by Stephen Collinson, CNN 5 hrs ago"
CNN. those who told us that the gov shutdown would least to asteroid attacks.
CNN correspondent Tom Foreman said on "The Lead with Jake Tapper" that NASA could potentially stop monitoring asteroids during the shutdown.
“A big one, by the way, is expected to brush by Earth on February 4,” Foreman said on Friday's show.
He explained that this occurred back in 2013 during the Obama administration when the government last shut down. “For more than two weeks, NASA reportedly stopped monitoring potentially dangerous asteroids,” he said.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/01/22/cnn-claim-unmonitored-asteroid-could-slam-into-earth-during-government-shutdown-is-debunked.html
hey foreman, if an asteroid is going to slam into the earth there won't be a fucking thing we can do about it anyway.
THIS is CNN
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
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We can verify that "pastor" james boswell is an UNDOCUMENTED PEDOPHILE.
We are also closely monitoring this site and it's posters.
We can also verify that while he speaks for the fuhrer he is actually not Adolph Hitler.
Updates forthcoming.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
Shutdown Battle Is Only on Pause
“Washington will be back on the brink in less than three weeks. Lawmakers may have pulled themselves out of a debilitating government shutdown Monday, but the fight over immigration and spending that’s ground virtually all congressional business to a halt is far from over. And the fundamentals of the debate haven’t changed at all.
“Republican leaders are under increasing pressure from their own members to reach a long-term budget agreement by Feb. 8, when the government next runs out of money. Their defense hawks are desperate to increase defense spending, a key 2018 priority for President Donald Trump. And their members are sick of voting on short-term funding bills that they say cripple the military.
“But in order to strike any long-term budget accord, at least nine Senate Democrats are needed for passage. And while Democrats’ strategy of shuttering the government until securing relief for Dreamers blew up in their faces Monday, they can still withhold support for a long-term budget deal to get what they want on immigration.”
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
they can still withhold support for a long-term budget deal to get what they want on immigration.”
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hold the budget hostage over criminal illegals.
fucking brilliant, pederast.
how shit like this makes it past the editor i'll never know, because it certainly defies logic.
A Harvard-Harris poll taken in the run-up to the shutdown found Americans strongly support granting citizenship rights to illegal immigrant Dreamers. But they also back Mr. Trump’s three demands for a border wall, limits to the chain of family migration and an end to the Diversity Visa Lottery.
Most striking of all is the public’s demand for lower overall legal immigration — a position that has little traction on Capitol Hill but one that is overwhelmingly popular across the country.
The poll found that most Americans want annual legal immigration capped at 500,000 a year or less — far lower than the current annual rate of 1.3 million.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/22/shock-poll-us-wants-massive-cuts-legal-immigration/
Crying Chuck. He is crying about Trump not talking to him over two day weekend.
As a negotiation tactic Trump let emotional Chuck stew, fume.
2nd tactic Trump used, name the problem "The Schumer Shutdown"
Schumer withdraws offer on Trump's wall
By BURGESS EVERETT and SEUNG MIN KIM 01/23/2018 12:09 PM EST"
LOL @ Crying Chuck.
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