This is not exactly big news, unless there was some expectation that Mueller would investigate for months and months, and then end the investigation without ever questioning the President. Even if that made sense from a pure legal and investigatory standpoint, the optics would never allow for it. It's probably in the best interests of both Mueller and Trump to go through some process of questioning or an interview.
That being said, investigators are not just allowed to pull in anyone they want to question without justification. Unless a grand jury subpoena offers that you are either a "target" of an investigation or a "subject" of an investigation, most of these interviews are entirely voluntary.
For all of the pomp and circumstances of media speculation, there is no official reason to believe that Trump is a "target" of this investigation. Both Trump and his attorneys maintain that he is not under investigation (suggesting that they have not received a target letter). They likely have a fairly significant degree of leverage.
The President and his attorneys are said to be negotiating how this will go about. Likely offering written answers to written questions rather than a sit down with anyone from Mueller's team (something previous Presidents have done). Or they use the Hillary Clinton precedent, where they agree to particular amount of time to be interviewed, but refuse to allow Trump to be put under oath. Perhaps it will end up being a combination of both. It's extremely unlikely that the President and his attorneys would ever allow for a situation that could offer Mueller a chance to suggest that the President committed a "process crime" over misleading statements, etc. If that means requiring all questions be answered in written form, or at least have the subjects of the questioning up front, I think they will ask for it.
There is a lot of speculation as to what this all means. But if this is anything like the Clinton investigation, the eventual interview of Clinton was done at the very "end" of the investigation into her email scandal. That being said, Clinton was the target in that investigation. Trump is not necessarily a target at all. Either way, considering it's unlikely that this investigation ends without Trump at least answering some questions in some form, such an event could be a sign that we are nearing the end.
Eventually you have to ask yourself... who else is there left to interview. Either you have the evidence or you don't. Generally you use the evidence you have to expand and supplement your case. However, it appears with this investigation that they are checking over there, behind this, and underneath that looking for evidence of something they have suspicion (but no actual proof) of. You can only legitimately so this for so long, before it becomes an exercise in futility.
Note: Others are suggesting that Trump should not testify. Paul from Powerline suggests that it is a trap. He also points out that unless Trump is a "target" that any interviewed could be limited to testimony regarding information that Mueller could not otherwise get elsewhere. Cristian Farias suggests that no sane lawyer would allow any interview. He contends that Trump is not a "controllable" witness from an attorney standpoint. Too willing to shoot from the hip and provide unnecessary information that could get him into trouble.
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All the immediate cliff jumping for Oprah as the dem candidate shows just how weak their bench is.
Crazy Trump ask for the wall and end of chain migration.
Clear thinking Dems get DACA .
Shake hands , done deal.
The growing list of billionaire anti-trump democrats thinking about running for president in 2020 is getting amusing-
Oprah
Tom Steyer
Mark Cuban
The Starbucks guy... Schultz
Mark Zuckerberg
Off the top of my head.
It pisses them off that Trump actually did it and actually won
Note: Others are suggesting that Trump should not testify. Paul from Powerline suggests that it is a trap.
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he's right. it's the mother of all perjury traps. so far team mueller has absolute shit. are they desperate enough to try and snare trump on some meaningless "what did you have for lunch last wednesday?" stupid questions hoping he can't remember? well, what else do they have?
Senate Was Told FBI Had Whistleblower on Trump
“The British ex-spy who authored a dossier of allegations against then-presidential candidate Donald Trump was told the FBI had someone inside Trump’s network providing agents with information,” the Washington Post reports.
“Glenn Simpson, founder of research firm Fusion GPS, spoke to investigators with the Senate Judiciary Committee for 10 hours in August. As the partisan fight over Russian interference in the 2016 election has intensified, Simpson has urged that his testimony be released, and a copy of the transcript was made public Tuesday.
“It was released by the ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA). That decision marks the most serious break yet in the once cooperative relationship she has had with the Republican chairman of the committee, Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-IA).”
Mueller Wants to Question Trump on Obstruction
New York Times: “One person familiar with the discussions said Mr. Mueller appeared most interested in asking questions about the former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, and the firing of the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey — not the broader question of possible collusion with Russia. Those topics signal an interest in whether Mr. Trump tried to obstruct justice.”
Greg Sargent: “It will be perilous terrain for Trump to face tough questioning about obstruction of justice… Trump would be pressed to explain, in his own words, his motives for all of those actions. In the cases where he denies them, he would be pressed on those denials. And if he again denied them to Mueller, those denials would be held up against the testimony of people like Comey, and of other officials to whom Comey may have confirmed his account at the time.
“This would be a minefield for Trump, one demanding great care and precision in his answers.”
White House Aides Worried About Trump’s Finances
Author Michael Wolff said people in the White House believe that if special counsel Robert Mueller looks into President Trump’s finances in the Russia probe, the president is “sunk,” The Hill reports.
Said Wolff: “People don’t think in the White House — don’t think that he colluded with Russia. They do think that if the investigation goes near his finances, he’s sunk.”
Comey should be charged with mishandling classified information. He should then be charged with perjury if his sworn testimony is different from that of the President of the United States.
Comey is a disgruntled employee willing to break the law to get back at the President for firing him for good cause. You have to believe he would be willing to lie under oath.
It's Wolff asshole
Or, as I wrote yesterday ...
"I think it's probably misinformation, like so much before about the investigation. But if true, it could portend either of two things. The person of most interest is interviewed after gathering information from subordinates, to see if he's lying and if so it points to the investigation's next steps if any. That means it's wrapping up. OR, it could mean a pro-forma interview (as with Clinton) as a precursor to killing the investigation.
Either of those would be an interesting development, given that most believe that we've got another year ahead of this. But I don't really believe it."
If it does happen, I tend to agree with you that it means that the process is coming to a close. But I don't think there's much point unless Trump is put under oath, and if he isn't I'd see it as the pro-forma variety intending to kill the investigation.
Hey, CH told me that I basically didn't have the right to criticize Trump, because his bank account, and his TV personality, made him so much more successful than me. He should apply the same standards to himself and Oprah.
Well, CH?
WP...
I respect the fact that Oprah has a successful celebrity status. She has used that status to create some successful businesses and provide for a very large amount of philanthropy.
Would I likely disagree with her political stances? Sure. To that degree, just like with most Democrats... I would argue that her policy ideas (and ideals) are wrong. I would also argue that she has limited qualifications to be President, especially running against someone who will have been President for nearly four years come election day.
That being said...
It would be silly of me to suggest that she is not intelligent.
It would be silly of me to criticize her as lacking basic talent.
It would be silly of me to suggest that she is mentally unstable.
If you were half as smart as you pretend, you would see the difference.
If I was Trump's lawyer, I try to keep him from testifying under oath. He would be prosecuted for lying under oath.
He has lied so often, that he's not mentally stable or worse he wouldn't remember what the truth is.
That is funny,that is unless you really believe what you just wrote. I will excuse it give your abuse oc schudule 1 drugs.
WP, Creative writing is comical.
Trump Holds Meeting to Show He’s In Charge -- Shows the Very Opposite
Trump Holds Meeting to Show he Knows What He's Doing -- Shows the very Opposite
Jonathan Chait: “In the hope of proving he is not the semiliterate ignoramus numerous media have depicted him to be, Donald Trump held a televised meeting with members of Congress to discuss immigration. It was, the White House told a friendly reporter, the president’s very own idea.
“In some, very superficial aspects, the stunt fulfilled Trump’s goals. He was depicted at a table, meeting with important people and talking politics while wearing a tie, as opposed to in bed with a cheeseburger watching cable-news hits. But looking even slightly below the surface imagery, the meeting instead confirmed the very idea Trump had set out to refute.”
If you were half as smart as you think
you are, wp and I wouldn't make a fool out of you.
I ignore the Fake id's posts
CNN: Trump Contradicts Self Repeatedly in Immigration Meeting
"The problem thus far has been President Trump's insistence on a completely ineffective and absurdly expensive border wall as a part of any deal on DACA," Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer said on the Senate floor Tuesday morning ahead of the meeting.
Democrats have been adamant that they won't support the construction of a border wall. Republicans, many of whom had also been opposed to a physical structure stretching across the southern border with Mexico, now say Trump wasn't literal in his campaign pledge to build a wall.
"Everybody's getting caught up with the wall, but do you honestly believe we're going to build a two thousand mile wall from sea to shining sea?" Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., rhetorically asked reporters Tuesday morning.
I would also argue that she has limited qualifications to be President,
Limited qualifications? What have YOU ever achieved that's anywhere close to her achievements, that you can talk about her qualifications?
I think I'll call it the CH standard.
If you were half as smart as you pretend, you would see the difference.
If you were half smart enough to credibly comment about that, you would understand that her bank account, or Trump's, has absolutely nothing to do with his or her mental instability.
Funny, a guy that basically copied my post from yesterday - adding some spin to it, is denigrating how smart I am.
I think I'll call it the CH standard.
It's your concept... so call it what you want.
My concept is (and has been) that I respect people for their success in whatever field they happen to be successful in. Given the choice between someone who has a successful past, and someone who has been a failure, I would choose the successful one.
I guess as a general rule, you and I have a difference of opinion as to whether or not incompetent people are capable of just stumbling into 3.5 billion in real estate, becoming a reality television star, and being elected President.
I don't believe you have provided us with a valid secondary theory as to how someone ends up at the top of three different professions (including becoming President of the United State), unless they have some smarts, talent, drive... etc...
But I do have a personal question, WP. Why are you suddenly so sensitive about your own personal success (or possible lack of such)? Seems like this particular subject got under your skin
It would be silly of me to suggest that she is not intelligent.
On the other hand given all of the charlatans and con-men she promoted over the years, I would seriously question her judgement.
Oprah become President? Why would she want the demotion?
Why are you suddenly so sensitive about your own personal success (or possible lack of such)?
Get it right: you keep bringing it up, casting aspersions, and I'm making fun of you. I have made NO claims about my personal successes here whatsoever, other than to point out what should be obvious: you and your cohorts don't have a clue about them, and it's none of your business.
You, and Loretta, and KD are all acting as if you're insecure about it, constantly ankle-biting about where I work, what businesses I've run, even what's in my bank. And I don't really care about your insecurities either, but it's embarrassingly obvious what your priorities are. I'm surprised at you though. Have you let yourself get caught up in your "reputation" in this weird little corner? Are you feeling an emotional involvement? If so you need to think seriously about the implications of that.
Get it right: you keep bringing it up, casting aspersions, and I'm making fun of you.
As I keep stating, WP. We are two different people.
- I am someone who respects people who have been and are successful. I believe it comes from hard work, intelligence, and talent.
- You are one of those people who believes success is random or a matter of luck. Therefore you show little respect for it.
We both likely mock the other person's position. I know I do.
To be clear, I personally have never asked you what you do for a living. I have never asked you if you are married or have kids. I have never asked you how much money you make. I have never asked you about anything personal. I know from the old soars board that you once worked in (or dabbled in) IT (and probably still do). I know you currently live in Georgia as you kept us updated on the local Georgia 6th district special election.
I took a Facebook IQ test.
I'm a sane and sure genius. I have a 149 IQ . It is on Facebook so it has to be right !
Shadowy WP
Johnny Dimon of Chase, predicts 4 % GDP IN 2018
TWICE the average of the bestest black prez ava'.
"You, and Loretta, and KD are all acting as if you're insecure about it, constantly ankle-biting about where I work, what businesses I've run, even what's in my bank."
I've never asked you any of those things.
I assumed you to be a loser based on your comparison of today's corporations to the robber barons of yesteryear.
I admitted I was wrong to make such an assumption.
I also assumed you to be a loser based on your comments that corporate profits are gained on the backs of working men...when it's actually a partnership...can't have one without the other.
But, YOU wanted to know my numbers. So, there's that.
For the up coming State of the Union Address by the wildly insane Trump, Every Democrat is wearing Black.
I love it.
The Dossier isn't going to be a great thing for the Republicans.
Steele went to the FBI with the initial reports that would later form the dossier on alleged Trump-Russia ties as early as June or July 2016, Simpson testified.
"Chris said he was very concerned about whether this represented a national security threat and said ... he thought we were obligated to tell someone in government," Simpson told the Senate Judiciary Committee.
"He thought from his perspective there was ... a security issue about whether a presidential candidate was being blackmailed."
Simpson said he neither encouraged nor discouraged Steele about going to the FBI.
"This was like, you know, you're driving to work and you see something happen and you call 911," Simpson told investigators. He likened the sense of responsibility he said Steele felt to the professional obligations that attorneys have in some cases to report a crime if they learn of one.
Steele eventually met with an FBI legal attache in Rome in September 2016, more than two months after the initial outreach.
Steele later told Simpson that he believed the FBI would consider his information credible because the bureau had corroborating intelligence, including from a human source within the Trump organization.
Then the FBI should be able to verify Steeles belief.
Right?
Question is; why haven't they?
And way hasn't Steele testified before Congress?
Hillary Paid for the Dossier.
The Dossier is pure bullshit.
When one narrative on why Trump Pulled the UPSET of the Century over the Hillary shift to another.
Then be sure to circle back .
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If you were half as smart as you think
you are, wp and I wouldn't make a fool out of you.
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alky, an imbecilic opioid addict like yourself has no business trying to hitch his wagon to another commenter on this blog.
you're an asshole with the debating and logic skills of a potted plant. an assclown who relies on copy/pastes from mommy jones to formulate a retort.
go back to the ER and keep trying to troll them for narcotics. you're sure not fooling anyone around here.
including from a human source within the Trump organization.
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that would be popadopoulos, alky. and we all know his 'value' (LOL) as a source.
try to keep up.
It's ironic that liberals here and in the mainstream media think it is Trump who is the embryo Hitler when Obama's DOJ was acting like the Gestapo all along.
Cliven Bundy Wins: Judge Cites ‘Flagrant’ Federal Misconduct
In April 2014, America was transfixed by an armed standoff in the Nevada desert. On one side was a collection of dangerous, out-of-control armed men who were deliberately provocative, prone to saying unhinged things in a single-minded quest to destroy their enemies, and who lied time and again to cover their misdeeds.
On the other side was Cliven Bundy.
If you think that’s an unfair and inflammatory attack on the federal government, consider that yesterday a federal judge, Obama appointee Gloria Navarro, dismissed the federal government’s criminal case against Bundy and two of his sons on the basis that the government was guilty of “flagrant misconduct” in the trial. Its conduct was so “outrageous” that “no lesser remedy” than dismissal with prejudice “is sufficient.”
The government, you see, lied. It withheld evidence. It concealed the truth from the court and from the American people.
IOW's the bigotry of Bundy was absolved....very sad day indeed!!!! Good day for vigilantes.....
Bigotry? Bundy's case had nothing to do with illegal aliens or black civil rights.
It was a dispute over grazing fees.
CH was right about you.
Land rights win.
WP, Said President Trump said, "Obama Terrorized Ranchers/Farmers" in his speech.
I want WP, to post that qoute.
Excuse me WP Said "Totured".
Like to see the Exact qoute.
KD said...
Excuse me WP Said " Totured"".
Try again douche bag.....you once again missed an important item.....You really are an un mitigated failure of a human being and a stupid fuck to boot...Grow up and serve your pig wife....
illegal aliens or black civil rights
Bundy is a known racist who thinks blacks would be better off as slaves...wanna try again?????
Buddy's grazing dispute is a decades long problem. He has done nothing to help himself....
So your position is that Bundy shouldn't get due process because some people think he's a racist.
And that abuse of federal power is OK as long as the defendant is not politically correct.
You're a fascist as well as an idiot.
That bundy is quite the asshole...me thinks rat would fit right in with his thinking.....idiots
Clive Bundy has said he does not recognize federal police power over land that he believes belongs to the "sovereign state of Nevada
I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro. When I go to Las Vegas, north Las Vegas, and I would see these little Government houses, and in front of that Government house the door was usually open, and the older people and the kids and there was always at least half a dozen people on the porch. They didn't have nothing to do, they didn't have nothing for the kids to do, they didn't have nothing for the young girls to do. They were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do
So your position is that Bundy shouldn't get due process because some people think he's a racist.
My position is bundy is a flaming asshole who has done nothing to help himself....His history of vigilantism speaks for itself...
Well Dennis, you're quite the asshole but you still deserve due process just like any other American.
Your hatred of Bundy is irrelevant. That you would use it to justify tyranny is interesting.
Dopie, I read what WP wrote.
Did you?
Keep trolling fragile boy.
Dopie needs us to continue repeating ourselves so he can try (fail) to understand.
Dopie needs us to continue repeating ourselves so he can try (fail) to understand.
Dopie, I read what WP wrote.
Did you?
Keep trolling fragile boy.
Found a very interesting site that provides daily world temperature anomalies, but does not provide absolute temps that KD thinks should be available....Interesting how the current world temps seem to be well above normal in spite of KD burning a shit load of wood to keep his pig wife warm.....
http://cci-reanalyzer.org/reanalysis/daily_maps/
Blogger KD said...
Dopie, I read what WP wrote.
And you still omitted his most important comment, asshole dumb fuck you are....
Try again dumb dumb....
but you still deserve due process just like any other American
And his behavior for the past 25 years sticking his middle finger in the eye of the state and feds warrants what? Mercy????? LOLOLOLOL The state fucked up and got caught, I got no problem with that. Him walking unscathed knowing what his MO is, is another story....Let the litigation restart......
Winning bigly
Utilities cutting rates, cite benefits of Trump tax reform
Anonymous caliphate4vr said...
Winning bigly
Utilities cutting rates, cite benefits of Trump tax reform
I guess when you only have a measly matching 401k as your retirement....a six pack of cheep beer a month may be the breaking point for you...Thanx for the laugh.....
" to see an estimated $2.31 decrease on their monthly bill"
You're ignored by most of the people here because you are a simple minded racist and simple minded angry white guy. A typical Trump supporter.
You obviously use personal insults because you don't have the intellectually ability to engage in political debate. You're sure not fooling anyone around here.
The accusations of drug addiction and belittling my recovery from alcohol, now at 2050 days and accusations of drug addiction, you're sure not fooling anyone around here.
Dopie is against every thing that keeps more money in the pockets of the laborer.
Democrats have bastardize Dr. KING'S Legecy, turning his I have a dream to equal dreamers, aka illegals.
Home buyers gaining mortgages rises strongly.
By the way, did anyone else notice how bright, informed, and commanding Trump was in that daca meeting yesterday? All of Washington leadership was there and Trump was in full command...in front of the cameras no less.
Do much for the mentally ill unable to be president story line. Lol. Brilliant move by Trump.
The liberals did and they were pissed.
The DACA meeting was,dare I say it, the Guinus on Trumps part.
Not only that, he got the dems on record on camera with what they want.
Oh shit, too funny Joe plugs biden told HuffPo, he never wanted to be VP.
Ok.
LOL
The DACA meeting showed Trump's ineptness. He had to be told that he was agreeing to things he actually did not agree with. LOL
Crying James wish that were so. Unfortunately for him, there is video.
Biden also said that he later changed his mind, influenced by his son, and is glad he did.
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Back in 2008, then-candidate Obama suggested Biden talk to his family to consider the position, Biden said ― and give him an answer in two days.
Biden gathered a family meeting, and it was apparently his late son Beau ― an Iraq War veteran who served as Delaware’s attorney general for eight years ― who ultimately convinced him to take the position.
“Beau said I had an obligation to,” Biden recalled.
“It was the greatest honor of my life,” he added of his role as vice president under Obama. “My son Beau was right ― to take the job.”
And if anyone is still wondering whether the much-chronicled bromance between Biden and Obama was real, the former VP addressed that, too.
“It became a deep personal friendship,” Biden said of his relationship with Obama during the eight-year presidency. “Most of those memes are true.”
Exactly why President Trump did it. Video does not let liars like the febble minded Jane lie.
The video makes his ineptness clear. He says he agrees with Feinstein when he does not.
1-10-2018 political Update on HuffPo.
Biden again said he never wanted to be VP.
Confirmed he is not running in 2020 .
WASHINGTON, Jan 10 (Reuters) - U.S. Representative Darrell Issa, who as head of the House of Representatives' Oversight Committee pursued the investigation of American deaths in Benghazi, Libya, said on Wednesday he would not seek re-election in November.
"Throughout my service, I worked hard and never lost sight of the people our government is supposed to serve. Yet with the support of my family, I have decided that I will not seek re-election in California's 49th District," he said in a statement.
Issa is from one of the 23 congressional districts won by Democrat Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential election that are currently held by Republicans, who are now considered vulnerable in November congressional elections.
The video makes his ineptness clear. He says he agrees with Feinstein when he does not.
It called negotiation James. But I wouldn't expect you to understand.
That takes a minimal level of intellect,
Rev Jim Boswell, Normal, Illinois, is a pedophile.
Why Republicans Love Dumb Presidents
Jonathan Chait: “Faced with the accusation that he is a half-wit, the president and his defenders have formed two rebuttals. The first is that the mere fact Trump won the presidency and has approved conservative policies proves his wisdom… The second defense holds that the questioning of Trump’s mental capacity is no more than liberal snobbery.
“Both defenses have something in common. Rather than segregate questions about Trump’s brain away from the broader partisan debate, they dissolve the former into the latter. They believe that Trump’s being called dumb by the intellectual elite is intimately connected to his political identity. This belief is largely correct. As it has moved farther and farther right, the Republican Party has grown increasingly anti-intellectual. Trump’s base adores him, not despite his obvious mental limitations, but because of them.
“Two caveats are in order. First, many intelligent people have conservative values, and rationally support the Republican Party. Second, while Trump’s lack of mental aptitude may be similar to that of previous Republican leaders in kind, it is very different in degree. That said, Trump’s flamboyant ignorance and disdain for intellectual standards are very much in keeping with modern conservative politics.”
Democrat Introduces the ‘Stable Genius Act’
Rep. Brendan Boyle (D-PA) introduced the “Stable Genius Act” in the House, The Hill reports.
The act would require all presidential candidates to file a Federal Election Commission report “certifying that he or she has undergone medical examination by the medical office under the jurisdiction of the Secretary of the Navy.”
BACKTRACKING AGAIN, Trump Says Drilling Won’t Be Allowed Off Florida Coast
“The Trump administration told Florida’s governor it won’t consider new oil and gas drilling off the state’s coast, backtracking on plans to expand offshore drilling all around the U.S. and bowing to pressure from fellow Republicans in the state,” the Wall Street Journal reports.
First Read: “Exempting Florida — but not other states — appears to be the kind of transactional favoritism that many good-government observers worried about when Trump became president.
Bottom line: The Trump administration has invited lawsuits if it doesn’t extend the same kind of exemption to other states that want it.”
I watched the entire meeting live. If you listened to the President, you might have noticed that he changed his position on DACA twice. He agreed with Feinstein and said that the DACA law standing alone would be accepted. He tweeted an hour later and said it depend on the Wall.
He looked good, but if you actually listened to what he said, he bounced around the details on almost everything, exhibited the ignorance of the details on everything.
Many Republicans are increasingly uncomfortable with The President and his tweeting. His performance was exhibit one that he's not mentally stable or worse.
But you didn't listen to the details . You really should read what he said.
Rev Jim Boswell, Normal, Illinois, is a pedophile.
He's talking live. You guys are getting excited. Most of his claiming that CNN and MSNBC fake news will be out of business if he doesn't win in 2020.
It's a campaign speech again.
Lies on the military was weak again.
You're ignored by most of the people here because you are a simple minded racist and simple minded angry white guy. A typical Trump supporter.
You obviously use personal insults because you don't have the intellectually ability to engage in political debate.?
So by calling him a simple minded racist and angry white guy... you are admitting that you don't have the "intellectually" (ahem) intellectual ability to engage in political debate?
This is new territory for federal judges, according to Niels Frenzen, an immigration law professor at the University of Southern California.
“We’ve never had a president tweeting like this,” Frenzen said. “You have these extreme public statements that are shedding light on the motivation of the president in regard to why he is directing Cabinet secretaries to engage in these actions. The courts are saying these are fair game.”
The administration’s impulsiveness has also been its enemy in court. In this case and others before it, judges have said the administration, in its rush, had failed to take the steps required by law to justify its executive actions.
Homeland Security officials rescinded DACA last fall, saying it suffered from “constitutional defects” that were similar to problems federal judges had pointed out in rulings blocking a related Obama-era program, Deferred Action for Parents of Americans.
Based on those decisions, the Trump administration reasoned that DACA was illegal from the get-go and that President Barack Obama exceeded his authority when he rolled it out in 2012. Therefore, the argument went, allowing it to continue put the administration at risk of getting sued.
These former congressional interns share why the battle in Congress over the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program is so personal. (Melissa Macaya, Patrick Martin/The Washington Post)
Alsup called that conclusion “flawed,” “post hoc” and “capricious.” The Obama administration hadn’t overreached, he wrote in Tuesday’s order. In fact, he wrote, the Trump administration’s position wasn’t even based on a policy change but a “mistake of law.”
“The main, if not exclusive, rationale for ending DACA was its supposed illegality. But determining illegality is a quintessential role of the courts,” Alsup wrote.
In other words, it’s not up to the administration to decide whether one of its predecessor’s policies is illegal. That’s the U.S. Supreme Court’s job, and the high court hasn’t ruled on DACA’s legality.
ISSA announces retirement....Good fucking bye for another dirtbag....
Did you read what he said to me?
He said that I'm a drug addict and the usual angry outbursts.
I correctly stated that because he doesn't have the intellectual ability to write in English and engage in honest debate. Olinsky alky, etc.
You obviously found a spelling error undermined my comments. He cannot write as well as a sixth grade level student.
I was writing and reading in seventh grade, at the college level. So if you used your (alleged intelligence,) you would not have made a childish insult.
leadership was there and Trump was in full command
No he wasn't...it was a dog and pony show trying to negate the wolf book....it failed as trump showed no mastery of the subject matter and waffled as Kevin Mc...tried to keep his answers in line with the parties dogma...A massive fail that only those wearing the trump tinted glasses like ballz thinks was a winner....Laughable....
"Did you read what he said to me?
He said that I'm a drug addict and the usual angry outbursts."
LOL
According to the logic of your Washington Post story...
Any executive order Donald Trump makes, is not subject to future review unless it can be determined that the E.O. was actually "illegal" ?
HB, your show your slip again. You like call names , but are butt-bruised when some are direct hits on you.
You are not a home owner. Period. That according to the address you said you interlope.
Home ownership on the rise. It is the 2nd largest economic driver. Reversing the renter years under the stupid chimp.
Stupid chimp. That would be, according the KD, the "black monkey" who inhabited the White House with "the cheap Chicago whore" his wife.
Of course, it was during Obama's tenure that the dreadful Bush economy my turned around and began improving rather than getting worse.
Slowest economic recovery in history
Quote of the Day
“My performance — some people called it my performance, I consider it work — got great reviews by everybody except two networks… Some said it was one of the greatest meetings they’ve ever seen.”
— President Trump, quoted by Axios, boasting about his handling of yesterday’s bipartisan meeting on immigration.
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
One of the greatest meetings evah.
"My performance — some people called it my performance, I consider it work — got great reviews by everybody except two networks ... [Some said] it was one of the greatest meetings they've ever seen."
Note: no agreement was reached on immigration during the meeting.
Trump vs. Trump, again: Judge cites presidential tweets as he blocks DACA phaseout
The Washington Post
4 hrs ago
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Greatest tweeter evah.
Greatest dealmaker nevah.
Any judge that cites a tweet in a ruling ought to be removed for gross incompetence.
Jane to help you out again.
Adding 14.75 Trillion to our national debt was stupid.
I know from the old soars board that you once worked in (or dabbled in) IT (and probably still do).
You can't help it, can you? No I never "dabbled" in IT - I was a Regional IT Manager of a large corporation about 20 years ago, but advanced to other things since then. I've had my name AND location public since the Bush election, so obviously I don't care. My employers do care, so stop guessing.
Do you want someone pointing out the reasoning flaws and factual corrections in this blog, or not?
Lowered them labor partisipation rate during his 8 years, jane Cheers
Welcome back WP.
No thanks. We already have people here correcting facts and reasoning flaws.
WP - you are missing my point. It was your suggested that everyone here was constantly asking for your personal information. I was just pointing out that I have never asked you about your life.
Again, you seem to take this whole thing a bit too seriously.
Nor have I ever asked.
. I was just pointing out that I have never asked you about your life.
You demand a list of achievements, to qualify whether I have the right to match my temerity of criticizing Trump's intellect. Your aspersions regarding education, employment, business experience and finances can be nothing other than goading someone for specifics. Such as "dabbling" in a technical profession, probably still are in some entry-level position, etc. I wouldn't be calling you out on it otherwise.
Correct. And Paul, who has probably figured it out but isn't someone who would abuse it.
that last sentence directed towards myballs, "Nor have I ever asked."
Anonymous Myballs said...
Nor have I ever asked.
Nor does anyone care....The only assholes who constantly ask for personal information are loretta and the swine lover...neither of them has anything better to do but to be envious of others success than brag how much land was given to them.....Sad but true....
WP...
You cannot point to any attempt by me to ask for your personal information since I have never asked for it.
You are not Roger, who provides us with a constant update of his inner life workings, as if this blog is his personal diary.
Moreover, one has "nothing" to do with the other. Whether you make $10/hour or have a seven figure salary as a high level executive... it wouldn't matter... would it?
Our disagreement isn't with your accomplishments or my accomplishments, Rogers accomplishments, or anyone else who regularly comments here. Our disagreement is whether or not the accomplishments of someone like Donald Trump matters in terms of judging his abilities, intelligence, and qualifications for his job.
I think you would "like" to pull something else into this debate....
Because otherwise you are left with just your argument... which appears to be that you have the ability to completely judge him by what you read and hear about him in Politico, NY Times, Washington Post, CNN, etc... while ignoring both his life accomplishments and specific accomplishments he has made since he has been President.
This is about you wanting to ignore tangible realities, and replace it with your personal opinion. Unless you happened to be Donald Trump's personal therapist with a doctorate in psychology...
your profession matters very little to your opinion.
Which is all your argument is... an opinion.
His accomplishments would matter, those that weren't scamming investors in real estate, conning people with his fake University, playing off the name for big payoffs and so on. Trump has had success as a golf course owner, and some real estate that worked, some that didn't. None of that is the kind of achievement that matters for a President.
The rich businessman is almost a cliche in politics. They almost never get elected, and those who do are almost always vastly disappointing. Trump has shown nothing that suggests that he is or will be an exception to that rule. He has shown a lot that suggests that he is at best ... you know that kid, Netanyahu's son, badgering his buddy for $110 for a prostitute because his dad set his bud's dad up for a big deal, that reminds me of Trump. Kid's got a future in politics I guess.
My opinions of Trump do not come from recent CNN and WaPo stories by the way. They come also from decades of information, Trump's clown act from the time he first began flaunting his dad's money. Yes, he played up the Richest Man in America angle (though he wasn't), and was bragging about his money even as he was unsuccessfully trying to scrounge loans from family members, who refused because of his already established history of screwing up.
You cannot simply erase decades of history by citing "fake news", which is mostly apocryphal anyway. Enough that is written about him is dead on that it's almost comical to try to dress him up as a brilliant businessman. Those who do, when pressed, are inevitably reduced to citing his bank account.
You're right WP, I don't care. But if I see a dude peddling a blue bike, grey hair flowing on McFarland I will pull over to say hi.
WP...
So I guess your argument is that Donald Trump unsuccessfully scrounged and. screwed up his way to over ten times what his dad was worth when he died.
Perhaps if you had thrown in a few more disparaging adjectives and adverbs you could make all of his billions, his television success, and Presidency just disappear. "poof".
I guess I would prefer to describe and judge without the embellishment. But that really doesn't work for you, does it?
I wonder, is the left really so deeply butt hurt as the leftist here over the Trump smack down of Madam Hillbilly.
I knew IF Trump won the left would be upset,but, damn.
But if you're in one of those packs on Sat or Sunday near Milton, I may put you in the wall.
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Remember the End of Mankind , because of the hole in the ozone.
Pure hoax.
wp, have you noticed that CH uses how your phrase your comments makes you incorrect?
Perhaps if you had thrown in a few more disparaging adjectives and adverbs you could make all of his billions, his television success, and Presidency just disappear. "poof".
He used a misspelling to claim to say my comment was invalid. His statement defending champion of racist rodent bastard said that I was abusing the medications I have been prescribed for pain. My spelling error made it invalid
Perhaps if you had thrown in a few more disparaging adjectives and adverbs you could make all of his billions, his television success, and Presidency just disappear. "poof".
You'll never understand that neither a billion dollars, nor the TV personality that it buys, are a measure of a man's worth. Particularly not for a President. But go on pretending that it means something if you want - even you'll get tired of it in another year or two.
You're right WP, I don't care. But if I see a dude peddling a blue bike, grey hair flowing on McFarland I will pull over to say hi.
More likely a silver-grey road bike or a black fixed gear these days.
I don't ride with the packs so no worries there.
"I guess I would prefer to describe and judge without the embellishment. But that really doesn't work for you, does it?"
Bitter TDS.
rrb.
Challenge me in an Intellectual Debate,and I will send you back to your Trailer Park in Tears.
Trumpflake!!
You'll never understand that neither a billion dollars, nor the TV personality that it buys, are a measure of a man's worth.
I take it you never made a billion dollars or was ever a TV personality. People who obsess about it are usually unhappy and envious.
But in this capitalist driven society money accumulated is a measure of success.
No one denies Jeff Bezos is a success. Nor should the deny that Donald Trump is a success.
As far as qualifications for president. People made that judgement last November and they judged in the affirmative.
And so far he has not disappointed to people who voted for him.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
rrb.
Challenge me in an Intellectual Debate,and I will send you back to your Trailer Park in Tears.
Trumpflake!!
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anytime, alky. i've stomped you into a puddle around here more times than i can count. so let's go. just make sure your opioid prescription is refilled.
maybe run your bride thru the ER one more time to fraudulently snag a refill.
I take it you never made a billion dollars or was ever a TV personality. People who obsess about it are usually unhappy and envious.
Yep, and all of you envious guys voted him into office.
I don't even watch TV personalities, and I consider the fascination to be a form of neurosis. As is also this fascination of yours with someone else's big bank account. If that's all you have to admire a man, then you're both in sad shape.
Yep, and all of you envious guys voted him into office.
I think you are confusing envy with admiration.
Otherwise, the statement makes no sense.
You admire his money because that's so important to you. His material possessions being that important to you, even though they have no objective impact on you, means that you're envious of it. Simple deductive logic.
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