The President is said to be in favor of signing the bill.
The odd thing is that people are reporting that Pelosi is in agreement (in private) but publicly railing against the deal, because she claims not to have a promise from Paul Ryan to hold an open debate regarding DACA/immigration. This seems to be classic talking out of both sides of your mouth. Say one thing to these people, and another to those. In the end, I would expect Paul Ryan to make some statement (similar to McConnell's) to the extent that they will focus on immigration reform, and make the promise that the process will be open and inclusive.
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The odd thing is that people are reporting that Pelosi is in agreement (in private) but publicly railing against the deal, because she claims not to have a promise from Paul Ryan to hold an open debate regarding DACA/immigration. This seems to be classic talking out of both sides of your mouth. Say one thing to these people, and another to those. In the end, I would expect Paul Ryan to make some statement (similar to McConnell's) to the extent that they will focus on immigration reform, and make the promise that the process will be open and inclusive.
At the end of the day, many Democrats are still wanting to at least posture for a clean DACA fix. Perhaps even some expected that they would be able to force it into the budget deal. But there is effectively no chance that a clean DACA fix is either going to be included in the budget deal, or passed through both chambers of congress and signed into law by the President.
Democrats would serve the process better if they were willing to accept the reality that they are going to have to give in to some of the demands of the GOP and the President to get their DACA fix. I believe that some thought that they could stand tall, not give in, and possibly use a long term stalemate as a campaign issue for 2018. But it looks increasingly like they must absolutely get a DACA fix or they will be looking at a revolt by both members of their congressional caucus and rank and file Democratic voters.
Whatever leverage the Democrats thought they had... seems to be slip sliding away. If the budget deal goes through as expected (without a DACA fix) the Democrats will have been badly outplayed for a second time in just a few weeks.
Whatever leverage the Democrats thought they had... seems to be slip sliding away. If the budget deal goes through as expected (without a DACA fix) the Democrats will have been badly outplayed for a second time in just a few weeks.
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apparently granny mcbotox launched a dreamer-beaner filibuster this afternoon.
Lol
We shall see. It's a bipartisan solution and yes is a compromise between both sides.
Both sides are divided, but given the history of Ryan being unwilling to open up the floor for debate, the Republican controlled congress opposition by the freedom caucus, there are long odds against even a debate . Politico reported .
Fiscal hawks on Capitol Hill panned the budget deal reached by Republican leaders and Democrats on Wednesday as fiscally irresponsible and an abrogation of the GOP's congressional majorities.
Senators and House members on the right immediately came out against the agreement, while a large number of leadership-aligned Republicans were also noncommittal. It's unclear whether the opposition to the deal, which calls for $300 billion in new spending, will put it in jeopardy. But it has certainly put the Republican Party’s reputation for fiscal discipline on the rocks, coming on the heels of a tax law projected to increase the deficit by $1.5 trillion.
“This budget deal is a betrayal of everything limited government conservatism stands for and I will be voting 'no,'” said Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah).
A slew of House conservatives stood up in a closed-door Republican conference meeting Wednesday to chide Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and his team on the package, which would increase spending on defense and domestic programs. One of those was House Financial Services Committee Chairman Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas), a longtime Ryan ally, who argued that the plan would balloon the nation’s more than $20 trillion debt.
CH, you got this one spot on.
DACA, immigration reform and the wall will not be in this bill. We can hope that he doesn't let the wing nuts change his mind again.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/07/conservatives-slam-budget-deal-397452
post your link, captain copy/paste.
Outplayed is your opinion. But you know that old joke... We shall see how it plays out.
On my phone it's a pain in the ass to post the link On the post. Get over it Jimmy
I'm going to the gym again. I work my ass off. And enjoy the beautiful back sides.🚵♀️
CH didn't like name calling ,KD. Grow up Fake farmer.
HB please keep talking you stupid clueless broke drunk.
"
Pelosi Erases Gingrich’s Long-Standing Fairness Rules
Connie Hair | January 05, 2009
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi plans to re-write House rules today to ensure that the Republican minority is unable to have any influence on legislation. Pelosi’s proposals are so draconian, and will so polarize the Capitol, that any thought President-elect Obama has of bipartisan cooperation will be rendered impossible before he even takes office.:
You are in conflict with your own point in your post, HB.
I like to fuck my cow, Daisy is crying out loud as she is waiting for my baby love toy.
They have been successfully messing with house rules on both sides of the aisle, idiot
Pelosi: 'I'm trying to save the planet'
By DAVID ROGERS 07/29/2008 04:34 AM EDT
Just call her Nancy the Navigator.
“I have always loved longitude,” Nancy Pelosi says before breaking into laughter. “I love latitude; it’s in the stars. But longitude, it’s about time. ... Time and clocks and all the rest of that have always been a fascination for me.”
Roger AmickFebruary 7, 2018 at 4:31 PM
CH didn't like name calling ,KD. Grow up Fake farmer.
Then HB posted
KDFebruary 7, 2018 at 4:33 PM
I like to fuck my cow, Daisy is crying out loud as she is waiting for my baby love toy."
Then he posted
"Idiot"
2,253 days one day at a time my.
Your low double digit IQ can never cease beingshown here.
Roger Amick is my primary obsession.
Gym rat to look at tight Asian asses.
Adios amigos
“I say to their parents: Thank you for bringing these Dreamers to America. We’re in your debt for the courage it took, for you to take the risk, physically, politically, in every way, to do so,” she said., NannystateNancy Polisi
Sorry for off topic. But interesting.
The email is a blockbuster!
A text message between two FBI employees from September 2016 released by a Republican senator Wednesday says that then-President Barack Obama “wants to know everything we’re doing.”
Of course the President tweeted that. And the rest of the cult supporters were filled with glee. Another distraction on the Mueller investigation.
Mr. Strzok was removed in July, however, after the Justice Department’s inspector general uncovered numerous text messages between Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page, in 2015 and 2016, that were highly critical of Mr. Trump. Since Mr. Strzok’s removal was disclosed in December, staffers for Mr. Johnson and other senators have been poring over the pair’s correspondence, and the Justice Department has turned over to Congress two batches of the pair’s texts.
While The Wall Street Journal obtained many of the text messages between the two staffers last week, reporting that they showed no overall conspiracy against Mr. Trump, Republicans and the president himself have cited the messages as evidence that the Russian probe amounts to a wider plot to undermine him.
Mr. Trump tweeted Wednesday, “NEW FBI TEXTS ARE BOMBSHELLS!” He didn’t cite any particular text message.
In his Wednesday report, Mr. Johnson pointed to a Sept. 2, 2016, exchange in which Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page were discussing talking points for then-FBI Director James Comey to deliver to Mr. Obama.
Thanks to the fake news Wall Street Journal. All negative news on Mr Trump is fake news.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/texts-from-2016-show-fbi-employees-preparing-obama-briefing-on-russia-1518036629
Despite all of this bad news President Trump holds a 48% approval rating today in the Rasmussen daily tracking.
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 48% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Fifty-one percent (51%) disapprove.
The latest figures include 34% who Strongly Approve of the way the president is performing and 42% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating
This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -8.
President Trump has a stronger approval rating today than media darling Barack Obama did back in 2010 on this same day.
Back on February 7, 2010 Barack Obama had an approval rating of 44% while 56% of likely voters disapproved of the far left president."
Military parades are about ego and power. Of course Trump wants one.
It's meeting resistance from both sides of the aisle.
KD in desperation thinks this is significant
stronger approval rating today than media darling Barack Obama did back in 2010 on this same day.
Call someone who gives a fuck, idiot....If you forgot, Obama is no longer POTUS and apparently you think mediocrity is a wave for the future....LOL IDIOT
I wonder if our genius host knows that domestic abuse can result in the denial of a security clearance???? Seems trumpies most trusted advisor was a wife beater and worked in the WH without a clearance!!!! Imagine that, the guy who handled classified documents for the POTUS, could not even look at them.....and no one did anything about it!!!! Yep, another one bites the dust...But kelly called him an outstanding guy!!! Imagine that....the is no outstanding in the cold while another trump sycophant says the women are liars....another coincidence??? I doubt it. LOLOLOLOL
There's no public record of any criminal abuse charges.
Did you not find it strange that his ex-wives never mention the abuse when the FBI interviewed them?
Hb enjoys Gay Pride, #metooboohoo and Blankliesmatter parades.
"mediocrity" oDopie
Calling out Obimbo, ok.
Did NannystateNancy get a pinkie swear from Ryan?
stronger approval rating today than media darling Barack Obama did back in 2010 on this same day.
It comes from Quinnipiac. They get the most adverse results for Trump than any other poster.
And for the first time more people give Trump credit for the economy than Obama.
They expect that number to go up as Obama recedes into history.
The faux news channel fake news in full bloom....already discounted by the WSJ as completely out of context.....but, the simple minded here will embrace it as fact....very sad
U.S.
Bombshell text messages raise concerns about Obama
FOX News Videos
Yeah, another bombshell of inept bias.....Idiots..
It comes from Quinnipiac
Still doesn't mean shit other than Obama is no longer in office!!!!!
Military parades are about ego and power. Of course Trump wants one.
It think it would be cool if the battalion dress in historic uniforms of past wars as well as the present.
But I don't think it's an exercise in ego or altogether a celebration honoring our military.
It's really a diplomatic message.
Bombshell text messages raise concerns about Obama
It's not a Bombshell because Trump thinks it's a Bombshell, it's a Bombshell because it's a big deal.
Menstral the cramp again shows his lack of intellect.....
There's no public record of any criminal abuse charges.
Wife 2 had an emergency restraining order...try again idiot..
nd it strange that his ex-wives never mention the abuse when the FBI interviewed them
Gee numb nutz? Did he receive a clearance??? Do you have a transcript of the interview? You do know that is a classified document don't you? Depending on the ticket he was to receive...his neighbors were also interviewed, you have those/????? Funny how you just make shit up without a shred of evidence....IDIOT
It's not a Bombshell because Trump thinks it's a Bombshell,
And so does faux, that was their headline, not trumps.....I guess that makes it real, don't you????? LOLOLOL
And for the first time more people give Trump credit for the economy than Obama.
They expect that number to go up as Obama recedes into history. "
That alone is a devastating turn for the supporters of their GOD Obimbo, the fading of the Lost Years.
Gee numb nutz? Did he receive a clearance??
Yes, he did receive clearance which means the FBI did not find any information disqualifying him.
A history of domestic abuse would be disqualifying.
The FBI's standard procedure is to interview all neighbors, relatives, friends, and close associates.
There's no way the ex-wives were not interview.
So since he did get a clearance, you can safely assume that they didn't mention any abuse.
Wife 2 had an emergency restraining order...try again idiot.
It's easy for couples getting a divorce to get restraining orders against their spouse for all sorts of reasons. It is not that uncommon.
You cannot infer that a restraining order is evidence of abuse.
Menstral the cramp confirms trump is a liar....
It's not a Bombshell because Trump thinks it's a Bombshell,
And yes, it is not a big deal as the WSJ once again corrects the potus....LOL
Did NannystateNancy get a pinkie swear from Ryan?
Menstral the cramp tries to make stuff up tp prove he wasn't wrong...
It's easy for couples getting a divorce to get restraining orders against their spouse for all sorts of reasons. It is not that uncommon.
Here is what you said..."There's no public record of any criminal abuse charges."
A restraining order is a public record showing a pattern of threatening behavior....which can result in charges...
Yes, he did receive clearance which means the FBI did not find any information disqualifying him.
HE HAD NO CLEARANCE,,,,try to keep up....idiot..
A senior administration official said White House chief of staff John Kelly had been aware of the 2010 protective order, which prevented Porter from getting a full security clearance. The official said Kelly considered trying to push Porter out of his role but never did.
menstral again posts out of his ass with
You cannot infer that a restraining order is evidence of abuse.
Did you read the order....it is very graphic on what he did....IDIOT The only thing lacking was an arrest....
Obama knew everything that The FBI was doing.
The Schumer Shutdown coward the Democrat party .
FU menstral....Defending another women beater...typical of a women hater like yourself.....
star. A Harvard graduate, Rhodes scholar and former Senate aide, Mr. Porter was an ally of Mr. Kelly’s and a steady force in a West Wing populated by aides vying for face time with — and influence over — the president. But, a year into his job, Mr. Porter did not have the permanent security clearance that aides of his rank always have.
Ms. Willoughby, Mr. Porter’s second wife, said in an interview on Wednesday that when the F.B.I. was conducting research for Mr. Porter’s security clearance, he asked her whether she had told investigators about their marriage.
“He believed that that was holding up his clearance,” Ms. Willoughby said. “I did describe my marriage in detail.”
Ms. Willoughby, who said that she divorced Mr. Porter in November 2013, decided to go public about the allegations after facing pressure from Mr. Porter to issue a statement that she felt “minimized” her experiences in their marriage.
In addition to asking her about what she said to F.B.I. officials, Mr. Porter, she said, had been in touch several times over the past year to urge her to take down a blog post in which she detailed abuse in their marriage without naming him.
According to an emergency protective order she filed in June 2010 against him in an Arlington, Va., court, Ms. Willoughby accused Mr. Porter of growing angry when she said he had violated a private separation agreement. A day later, her complaint said, Mr. Porter entered her apartment with a key he had not given back.
According to her complaint, Mr. Porter left only after Ms. Willoughby had asked him to leave several times. He returned minutes later and “punched in the glass on the door,” trying to get into the apartment. He left the property after she read her name and address aloud to a 911 dispatcher.
“When he heard me on the phone with the police,” Ms. Willoughby wrote in the complaint, “he apologized and begged me not to involve them.”
Ms. Holderness, Mr. Porter’s first wife, described their relationship as “verbally, emotionally and physically abusive” in an interview with The Daily Mail. In photographs she gave to The Intercept, Ms. Holderness has a blackened right eye and a swollen cheekbone.
Rob Porter, a White House staffer largely responsible for controlling the flow of information to President Trump, is resigning following allegations of domestic abuse.
Two ex-wives have accused Porter of physical abuse, with one telling news outlets of incidents years ago when Porter punched her in the face and choked her, while another spoke of emotional abuse and being grabbed and pulled from the shower.
Responding to the accusations in a statement read by White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Porter called them "outrageous" and "simply false."
Sanders confirmed Porter's resignation Wednesday, though she said he would not immediately leave his job in an effort to "ensure that there's a smooth transition going forward."
Porter served as the assistant to the president and White House staff secretary. He worked with chief of staff John Kelly on "trying to impose order" in a White House known for feuding staff and disorganization. Beginning after Kelly assumed his chief of staff role over the summer, he directed that all documents that Trump would see should be vetted by both him and Porter.
Sanders said Porter had been "effective" in his job as staff secretary and President Trump and Kelly "have had full confidence and trust in his abilities and his performance."
Porter said photos from 2005 of his first wife Colbie Holderness with an apparent black eye had a "reality behind them [that] is nowhere close to what is being described."
KD the idiot makes another useless point with no meaning....
Obama knew everything that The FBI was doing.
And what exactly does that mean????? Especially knowing that text was made after the end of the H investigation....
He did NOT have a security clearance
that's quite the sad and pathetic existence you lead, alky.
reduced to repeating the same copy/paste's over and over.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
He did NOT have a security clearance
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prove it.
The investigation into the Clinton email was already completed prior to the email in question. Menstral cramps blinded him to the truth.
The Wall Street Journal reported on the lack of security clearance in the story I posted that included the link. Jimmy is caught up in a failing administration.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/texts-from-2016-show-fbi-employees-preparing-obama-briefing-on-russia-1518036629
Rat the hole denying reality posted...
prove it.
A senior administration official said White House chief of staff John Kelly had been aware of the 2010 protective order, which prevented Porter from getting a full security clearance. The official said Kelly considered trying to push Porter out of his role but never did.
Better yet...prove he had one....LOLOLOL
Blogger Roger Amick said...
The Wall Street Journal reported on the lack of security clearance in the story I posted that included the link.
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it's behind a paywall, alky. that's why i don't believe you.
· But, a year into his job, Mr . Porter did not have the permanent security clearance that aides of his rank always have.
New York Times, and every other single story about the President and his private secretary state that he did NOT have the security clearance that should be an automatic requirement for that position.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rob-porters-second-wife-girlfriend-reached-out-to-her-for-help-in-2016/
No pay wall asshole
Rat needs to be lead to water and still does not drink....Kelly shoulld be fired tor allowing this pig to have access to the WH...idiots all of them....
(CNN)Senior aides to President Donald Trump knew for months about allegations of domestic abuse levied against top White House staffer Rob Porter by his ex-wives, even as Porter's stock in the West Wing continued to rise, multiple sources told CNN on Wednesday.
Porter denied the allegations but resigned on Wednesday.
A scramble ensued inside the West Wing to defend him when the claims became public this week, the sources said. That effort continues even after his resignation.
Former White House aide's ex-wives detail abuse allegations
Former White House aide's ex-wives detail abuse allegations
Senior White House officials were aware for months of the allegations made against Trump's staff secretary, two sources familiar with the matter said on Wednesday after Porter resigned.
Trump himself first learned of the allegations this week, two sources familiar with the matter said. He was upset when shown reports of the abuse, which first emerged on Tuesday. His daughter Ivanka Trump, serving as a White House senior adviser, was also deeply disturbed by the allegations, particularly by photographs of the alleged abuse, the sources said.
close dialog
Porter's ex-wives detailed the allegations to the FBI over the course of a routine background check, they told CNN's MJ Lee on Wednesday. A year into the administration, Porter does not hold a security clearance.
"I will hire the best staff in history."
Rat the broke sales man can't afford the WSJ said..
it's behind a paywall, alky. that's why i don't believe you.
Dayum funny you don't have access to a compatriot journal of yours....Sales must suck...LOL
Unlike rrb, I have fully access to the Washington Post, Los Angeles Times , New York Times and the Wall Street Journal .
ah yes...
CNN (LOL) and cBS.
two solidly reputable sources you could bet your... well, something of little or no value on.
My lovely wife and I are not so broke that I cannot afford the online world
Fox News too.
speaking of ol' mail order, have you sprung her from the medicaid wing of the hospital yet?
Rat the asshole postulates...
two solidly reputable sources you could bet your
While rat depends on Hotair, Drudge and National Review as his sources of biased intellect...Maybe I should toss in Wattsupwiththat for his science acumen ...LOLOLOL
My lovely wife has been home for weeks . She was hospitalized for pneumonia for three days.
Mail order bride?
LOL
She moved to the United States in 1970.
We met in 2000.
Medicare . We pay for the coverage .
I paid approximately $10,000.
The total cost of the transplant was 1.62
Jimmy is caught up in odd thoughts that he thinks he knows what is going on .
Now Roger Amick you promised NOT TO TALK ABOUT YOU.
Confused Opium.
" Hotair, Drudge and National Review as his sources".
Mail order bride?
You mean malodorous trump? Wonder if she is having fun yet?????? She looked stunning in that leather skirt and yellow coat the other day...My guess that outfit cost more than Rat hole makes in a month....LOLOLOL
Admitting you are broke, good for you Roger, good for you.
KD the flamer opines...
Confused Opium.
Not at all, you and rats intellectual capabilities are governed by the bias of others. Neither of you can post a cogent sentence on any issue on your own...Oh well, confusions reigns in that empty head of yours...
Did NannystateNancy get a pinkie swear from Ryan to hold a full floor debate on illegals?
Did KD the mentally disabled get laid this morning????? My guess is no by his shitty attitude...
Porter's statement:
"These outrageous allegations are simply false. I took the photos given to the media nearly 15 years ago and the reality behind them is nowhere close to what is being described. I have been transparent and truthful about these vile claims, but I will not further engage publicly with a coordinated smear campaign,” Porter said in a statement provided by the White House.
I don't think he can get away with that. He's going to have to explain it.
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