Why then, if the Democrats flat out lied about their reasons for not wanting the memo released, would anyone believe them today when they claim that they have a competing memo? Is it going to be filled with similar arguments such as "national security secrets" one?
Let's also be clear about one more thing that seems to have gotten lost in the petty disagreements about details. The Obama DOJ, the James Comey FBI, and the Democratic Party has been arguing since the beginning of this that the Steel Trump dossier (opposition research) was not a major part in the FBI investigation into Donald Trump.
So whether or not this memo exposes any actual criminal or unethical behavior by the FBI... what it does do is prove once and for all that the Steele dossier (and some still unverified claim that Carter Page had a connection to George Papadopoulos) was what prompted everything from the FISA warrant to the counterintelligence investigation itself.
The memo exposes this very important and long term ongoing claim to be a lie.
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As the argument wages on about whether or not the FBI should have used opposition research to garner a warrant, or to what degree they mislead (or didn't mislead) a FICA judge to do so... there is another simple reality that seems to be ignored here.
The FBI could have, and should have, spent a little time attempting to corroborate the memo before looking for a FICA warrant. That (more than anything else) is the real issue here. Rather than do any due diligence to corroborate this opposition research, they relied on a Yahoo story (leaked to Yahoo from the same source) as corroboration of the dossier.
Knowing that an otherwise uncorroborated dossier such as the one they received form Steele would not past the muster to garner a warrant, why did they not spend the time to corroborate? Did they already believe that they would fail in those attempts, but wanted to put a member of the Trump campaign under surveillance?
We now know that they (DOJ/FBI) have been covering up the fact that the Steel dossier appears to be the key reason that there is an investigation of any sorts in the Trump campaign. They lied about this since the beginning.
Motive is the key question here?
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We know for a fact HB attempted to High jack CHT ID, CS caught HB doing it.
HB was given a chance to admit it and apologize, he didn't.
KD the retarded pig lover conjured up his own conspiracy theory with no merit... said...
We know for a fact HB attempted to High jack CHT ID, CS caught HB doing it T
The only fact remains is the pig lover is friggn retarded and has no life....
Republicans Dust Off the Anti-Pelosi Playbook
NBC News: “The question is whether Pelosi is as toxic now, with Republicans in control of the White House and Congress, as she was then.”
“Republicans are certain that she is.”
“But Pelosi’s team says Republicans aren’t living in the real world if they think a national campaign against her can overcome Trump’s poor approval ratings — he’s been below 40 percent in most polls — and the enthusiasm of Democratic voters.”
IT AIN'T GONNA WORK.
Trump Says Memo ‘Totally Vindicates’ Him
"President Trump, who pushed for the release of the four-page document that the FBI said is inaccurate, continued his criticism of the special counsel’s investigation,” the Washington Post reports.
Said Trump, on Twitter:
"This memo totally vindicates 'Trump' in probe. But the Russian Witch Hunt goes on and on. Their was no Collusion and there was no Obstruction (the word now used because, after one year of looking endlessly and finding NOTHING, collusion is dead). This is an American disgrace!
THIS PRESIDENT SURE IS A BULLSH*TTER
INFLUENCED BY TRUMP, REPUBLICANS ARE NOW ANTI-FBI, PRO-RUSSIA TRAITORS
Trump Turns Republicans Against the FBI
A new SurveyMonkey poll finds that “not even 40% of Republicans approve of America’s main federal law enforcement agency — a stunning turn for the law-and-order party.
“Trump, who earlier turned a huge swath of Republicans toward more favorable opinions of Russia, has now turned his party against his own FBI.
“The stark new Republican skepticism of the FBI means that Trump has succeeded in preemptively undermining the findings of special counsel Bob Mueller. Many Republicans will now see Mueller’s report or recommendations as a political document, and the conservative media will portray it that way.”
BUT THE PUBLIC WILL NOT BUY THE REPUBLICAN SPIN
Conservative Outlets Got Nunes Memo First
CNN: “Both Fox News and the Washington Examiner reported on highlights from the memo almost immediately after President Trump authorized the Republican-led House Intelligence Committee to release the four-page document.”
“At that time, other media outlets were still working to get details of the memo.”
“The news was initially reported without commentary by both Fox News and the Washington Examiner. Nevertheless, the move to provide key points to outlets friendly to the president raised eyebrows.”
SIMILAR TACTICS WERE USED BY THE NAZIS
I wonder if the President will have a Saturday Night Tweetscacer?
Quote of the Day
“An absolute disgrace. It is an embarrassment to the United States Congress. It is part of an effort to discredit the investigation of the president. That is its only purpose, and it doesn’t even work on those terms.”
— Jeffrey Toobin, discussing on CNN the release of the Nunes memo.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
THE WONDERFUL NEW TAX BILL SO TOUTED BY REPUBLICANS
--Is Only as Popular as Trump
Amy Walter: “For all the spinning and posturing there remains a fundamental challenge for the Republicans: the tax bill won’t become more popular unless the president becomes more popular. In fact, if you look at national support for the tax legislation, you will see that it lines up almost exactly with voters’ overall perception of the president.
“In other words, if you like the president, you like the tax reform legislation. If you don’t like Trump, you either don’t like the bill or you are undecided about it. It is a reminder that whatever the president touches carries his polarizing brand.
“Even as voters are overwhelmingly positive about the economy, it doesn’t translate to their opinions of the president or the tax law.”
State Partisanship Shifts Towards Democrats
Gallup: “For the first time in three years, more states can be considered Democratic than Republican, based on residents’ 2017 self-reported party preferences. Nineteen states, up from 14 in 2016, were solidly Democratic or leaned Democratic, while 16 states, down from 21 in 2016, were solidly Republican or leaned that way.”
A Betrayal of the Oversight Process
Lawfare:”At the end of the day, the most important aspect of the #memo is probably not its contents but the fact that it was written and released at all. Its preparation and public dissemination represent a profound betrayal of the central premise of the intelligence oversight system. That system subjects the intelligence community to detailed congressional oversight, in which the agencies turn over their most sensitive secrets to their overseers in exchange for both a secure environment in which oversight can take place and a promise that overseers will not abuse their access for partisan political purposes. In other words, they receive legitimation when they act in accordance with law and policy.
”Nunes, the Republican congressional leadership and Trump violated the core of that bargain over the course of the past few weeks. They revealed highly sensitive secrets by way of scoring partisan political points and delegitimizing what appears to have been lawful and appropriate intelligence community activity.”
LYING ABOUT THE FBI IS NOT GOOD POLITICAL POLICY
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
The Hype Was More Important Than the Memo
New York Times: “After weeks of buildup, the three-and-a-half-page document about alleged F.B.I. abuses during the 2016 presidential campaign made public on Friday was broadly greeted with criticism, INCLUDING BY SOME REPUBLICANS. They said it cherry-picked information, made false assertions and was overly focused on an obscure, low-level Trump campaign adviser, Carter Page.
“It didn’t live up to the hype.
“But the campaign, captured in the hashtag #releasethememo, which was trending on Twitter for days, may have a far more significant impact than the memo’s contents… What began as an ember more than two weeks ago was fanned into a blaze by conservative media titans, presidential tweets and Republican lawmakers urging people to use social media to pressure Congress to make the memo’s contents public.”
Walter Shapiro: “Ever since Watergate, the standard for any scandal is whether there is a smoking gun left next to a corpse. In the case of the Nunes memo, we lack a body and the gun is a child’s toy pistol.”
NOT EVEN A BODY, NOT EVEN A REAL PISTOL, LOL
Here you go again .
We now know that they (DOJ/FBI) have been covering up the fact that the Steel dossier appears to be the key reason that there is an investigation of any sorts in the Trump campaign.
We don't (know) that. You believe it, but as usual, you assume that your opinion is a fact.
They lied about this since the beginning. Once again you are assuming.
Motive is the key question here?
That's a good question. Why do you (assume) they have a political motivation???
Answer the question Scott.
Please remove the false posts. You know that I didn't say "James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile."
Someone is obsessed to the edge of insanity or beyond. LOL
I bet it's one of the two losers from Kansas .
There is no requirement that the government include "all material and relevant facts" in a FISA warrant application. Nor is a warrant automatically invalidated if exculpatory or favorable information is omitted from an application.
To obtain a FISA warrant in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Courts (FISC), the government must establish (among a list of other things in the statute) "probable cause" that (A) the target of the surveillance or search is an agent of a foreign power, and (B) the places to be surveilled or searched are used by an agent of a foreign power.
This "probable cause" standard is different — and lower — than the same standard in typical criminal cases. A criminal warrant application requires a probability that a person has committed a crime. FISA only asks if it's likely that a target such as Page is an "agent" of a foreign power.
The FISC process, like the one used to obtain the Page surveillance order, is both "in camera" (secret) and "ex-parte" (one-sided). The application is prepared by the Executive branch; the target or defendant has no say. Indeed, the target usually has no idea it's happening. In that sense, all the information that goes into a FISA application is "biased" — in favor of the Executive branch members making the application. It's designed that way by statute.
This raises a constitutional question: What if all the secret, unchallenged information that supported issuance of a FISA order was incomplete, biased or outright false?
It's not a hypothetical question. Federal courts have acknowledged that material misrepresentations frequently find their way into FISA applications. One federal appeals court recounted "the government's confession that 75 prior FISA applications related to major terrorist attacks directed against the United States contained misstatements and omissions of material facts (concerning such topics as whether the target of FISA surveillance was under criminal investigation, whether overlapping criminal and intelligence investigations were being appropriately compartmentalized in terms of information-sharing, and the prior relationship between the FBI and the FISA target)." That disclosure led the FISC to bar one FBI agent from ever appearing before the court again.
Danny Cevallos NBC news
We don't (know) that. You believe it, but as usual, you assume that your opinion is a fact.
Lord how much more proof do you need to open your eyes.
Nevermind you don't have to answer that. Your denial of reality knows no limits.
There is no requirement that the government include "all material and relevant facts" in a FISA warrant application.
Each lawyer and police officer swears an oath to never mislead the court.
This is big time misleading, you really don't think using information from political operative is something a judge would like to know before issuing a warrant.
They are required to being all information relevant to issuing a warrant before the court.
At the very least somebody should be fired and maybe even disbarred.
Lord how much more proof do you need to open your eyes.
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The invincible ignorance fallacy[1] is a deductive fallacy of circularity where the person in question simply refuses to believe the argument, ignoring any evidence given. It is not so much a fallacious tactic in argument as it is a refusal to argue in the proper sense of the word, the method instead being to either make assertions with no consideration of objections or to simply dismiss objections by calling them excuses, conjecture, etc. or saying that they don't prove anything; all without actually demonstrating how the objection fit these terms (see ad lapidem fallacy).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible_ignorance_fallacy
The memo doesn't outright claim that the information gleaned from the Steele dossier is and was recklessly used. It comes very close, calling it "minimally corroborated" and "salacious and unverified." To attack a FISA order as unconstitutional under Franks, the information would have to be closer to "demonstrably false."
The memo also says that Deputy FBI Director McCabe's 2017 testified that no information would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information. The mere fact that the dossier might have initiated the government's curiosity about Page doesn't mean the FISA application itself was composed of recklessly false statements.
The FISA application was not the initiation of the investigation into the Russian intervention into the election and possible collusion with the Trump campaign .
Your ability to ignore the facts has no limits.
Danny Cevallos of NBC and is a lawyer. He's far more credible than a Wiki opinion piece .
It also doesn't apply to requesting a FISA warrant.
Motive is the key question here?
That's a good question. Why do you (assume) they have a political motivation???
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they were desperate for hillary to be president. and for trump not to be.
what other motivation could there be? unless they just get off on breaking the law.
To obtain warrant in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Courts (FISC), the government must establish (among a list of other things in the statute) "probable cause" that (A) the target of the surveillance or search is an agent of a foreign power, and (B) the places to be surveilled or searched are used by an agent of a foreign power.
This "probable cause" standard is different — and lower — than the same standard in typical criminal cases. A criminal warrant application requires a probability that a person has committed a crime. FISA only asks if it's likely that a target such as Page is an "agent" of a foreign power.
The FISC process, like the one used to obtain the Page surveillance order, is both "in camera" (secret) and "ex-parte" (one-sided). The application is prepared by the Executive branch; the target or defendant has no say. Indeed, the target usually has no idea it's happening. In that sense, all the information that goes into a FISA application is "biased" — in favor of the Executive branch members making the application. It's designed that way by statute.
menstral the cramp....opines again without thinking...
They are required to being all information relevant to issuing a warrant before the court.
Again you ignore that the basis of a warrant is one sided....which makes it biased by itself...they disclosed the biased had political source, which I imagine if it piqued the judges as being a problem, could have asked who the source was!!!!! I do not think these judges are passive participants but are able to question anything that is presented to them....Most likely, the judges a R's and play the game fairly.....oh well...As to this particular argument....page was watched for years and had nothing to do with mueller's investigation, your side trying to say otherwise is failing as bad as you did with your 200 buck tax cut....idiot.
Please stop the silly James Boswell spam. We all know by now who James Boswell is and his opinions about prepubescent girls.
James - please stop spamming other other people's name. If you are to embarrassed to comment on it as yourself, then don't comment.
Secret Society infected rrb just revealed Jim's motivation.
they were desperate for hillary to be president. and for trump not to be.
what other motivation could there be? unless they just get off on breaking the law.
No laws were broken .
Thank you .
FISA only asks if it's likely that a target such as Page is an "agent" of a foreign power.
If true, that's a ridiculously loose standard that can be satisfied by merely talking to a foreign national.
It's becoming obvious that FISA was abused for political spying and influence of a presidential election.
We are having an interesting discussion. The use of alky blah blah , doesn't help CH get an audience to his blog.
You may not like it , but that's the law.
No one outside of your right wing world, believes this.
(It's becoming obvious that FISA was abused for political spying and influence of a presidential election.)
Okay, Ch. But I really think there is a big difference between posting for example as Jeffrey Toobin when the quote is from Toobin and posting as me or as Roger when we would never say what is said.
But, I will henceforth post under my own name, albeit sometimes as, for example, James said NYT [said].
The person who was doing that was the poster who sometimes posts as "Cowardly King Obama" or as "James's F**king Daddy."
But you are mistaken, Ch, or like Trump you are lying, when you say I commented on "PREpubescent" girls. I favorably commented on "POSTpubescent" attractive young women.
Funny how the goal posts have moved.
When Republicans first questioned if the Dossier was used by the FBI to garner warrants and to justify their investigation...
The FBI/DOJ/Dems/Media all suggested that it was preposterous. It wasn't used.
Then it was... well it might have been used, but it wasn't the main justification. They had other more important evidence. The dossier was just back up.
Now it seems to be... well it probably was used as the main justification... but there was nothing illegal about them doing so.
At the end of the day...
I would not accept that Roger, James, Opie, WP, or anyone else that comes here would accept the same justification...
if Trump paid for private investigator to dig up dirt on his 2020 political opponent, and then that private information was used by Trump/Sessions/Wray to garner warrants to put members of his political opponents under surveillance...
without otherwise having the FBI or any other law enforcement coraborate what the Trump private dicks claimed they found.
I'm not a lawyer , but I always find it very interesting .
At 66 it's too late , but it would have been an interesting occupation.
No laws were broken .
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really???
so... lying on a FISA warrant application (which is essentially lying to the judge you are petitioning with the application) is not a crime?
huh.
well perhaps it should be. if you're willing to lie to GET a FISA warrant then imagine the amount of illegal behavior you'd be willing to commit once you HAVE the FISA warrant.
actually alky, i'd be willing to bet laws WERE broken. remember, all we saw was the summary memo. we have seen none of the supporting documentation.
There you go again
You assume that the dossier was the only motivation for the investigation into the Russian intervention into the election. CH, that is and was, the one and only motivation for the investigation.
It was a drunken conversation with the Austrian ambassador.
You may not like it , but that's the law.
The point of Congressional oversight is to change law or correct abuse of those laws.
No one outside of your right wing world, believes this.
Actually, it's no one inside your TDS world.
I guarantee you most people who see the government spying on its citizens based on a political opposition document full of unverified gossip and innuendo would quite rightly be frightened by its implications.
When the people first approved FISA it was to fight foreign terrorist and prevent terrorist attacks on our homeland.
Not for political spying and interfering with our elections.
It's becoming obvious that FISA was abused for political spying and influence of a presidential election.
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one of the reasons FISA was used is that a judge in a normal court would've thrown the thing out.
I guarantee you most people who see the government spying on its citizens based on a political opposition document full of unverified gossip and innuendo would quite rightly be frightened by its implications.
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indeed. but not liberals. they get off on this sort of thing.
"Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
There was a reason that McCabe abruptly left the FBI without notice.
There was a reason that Peter Strzok is now working a menial desk job.
There was a reason why the FBI was reluctant to find those missing text messages.
There is also an Inspector General report due out in a couple of months from Michael Horowitz that supposedly has some people shitting their pants.
Of course, according to some... we should just sweep it all under the rug, lest we otherwise harm the precious reputation of the FBI... They should be allowed to get away with anything they like, without any oversight, questions, etc... because they are the FBI.
There you go again
You assume that the dossier was the only motivation for the investigation into the Russian intervention into the election. CH, that is and was NOT, the one and only motivation for the investigation.
It was a drunken conversation with the Austrian ambassador. The dossier had nothing to with the initiation of the investigation. And there is no proof that the dossier or an anti-Trump philosophy alters the fact that the Russians were involved in at least via social media to alter the results of the election .
You never answered my simple question.
If Trump has nothing to hide, why has he not cooperated and show that he had nothing to hide?????
An answer to 11:41:
How Conservatives Learned to Hate the FBI
Todd Purdum: “The aggressive Republican attacks on the FBI are the latest sign — if one were needed — that President Donald Trump has upended the longstanding norms of Washington, as he and his allies in Congress seek to undermine the one institution of government that conservatives have typically seen as a bastion of integrity and law-and-order. Since at least the dawn of the New Deal, Republicans have excoriated any number of government entities — the Tennessee Valley Authority, the State Department, the Environmental Protection Agency, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration — as woolly-headed, hyper-regulatory and riddled with liberals — or worse.
“But for decades — from J. Edgar Hoover’s 47-year reign, through the McCarthy era, the civil unrest of the 1960s and right down to the Clinton impeachment — the FBI and the GOP have almost always been in sympathy, and often in sync. NOT EVEN AT THE HEIGHT OF THE WATERGATE SCANDAL, WHEN THE BUREAU'S INVESTIGATION WAS IMPERILING RICHARD NIXON'S PRESIDENCY, DID REPUBLICAN LOYALISTS MOUNT ANY SERIOUS EFFORT TO SOW DOUBT ABOUT ITS WORK. NO MORE."
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Comment from James: TRUMP SAYS, "HATE WHO I TELL YOU TO HATE," AND REPUBLICANS MINDLESSLY DO.
It was a drunken conversation with the Austrian ambassador.
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so we have a phony clinton paid for dossier, and a drunken conversation.
THAT'S the basis for trying to take down a president???
un-fucking-believable.
if the GOP had tried to pull shit like this on 0linsky, you would've lost your fucking mind. and rightly so.
11:42 is a good answer to the last 11:42
I may not agree with the law, but it is the law. If you don't like it, get away from the computer and get the law changed.
It was a drunken conversation with the Austrian ambassador.
So your argument is that the FBI is now nearly two years into an investigation that was brought about from third hand information from a drunken conversation... information that wouldn't even be allowed as evidence in a court of law due to hearsay rules?
Which would be (if true) even more stupid, reckless, and unethical than using unverified opposition research.
George Papadoloupos was mentioned in the FISA application as having ties to Carter Page. That was the extent of the Papadoloupos involvement. The memo (and I am guessing the evidence) suggests that these ties were also never able to be verified by the FBI.
So I think you need to really listen to your own argument?
A total of four investigation, going on for nearly two years... all started based on a third hand accounts of a conversation between two drunks? And you find this reasonable?
If Trump has nothing to hide, why has he not cooperated and show that he had nothing to hide?????
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because the basis for the entire investigation is a fucking fraud, therefore trump shouldn't be under investigation to begin with.
how would you like it if the cops showed up at your house tonight and accused you of a list charges? and as they're standing there reading the list, you don't have the first fucking clue as to what they're talking about or what any of it is about. the whole thing is a sham, completely made up by some cop who you don't even know who has it in for you for reasons known only to him. tell me that wouldn't scare the shit out of you. but you're ok with it because it's being done to a politician you hate.
If Trump has nothing to hide, why has he not cooperated and show that he had nothing to hide?????
He's turned over every document and made available every staff member for interview by the special counsel.
He has not invoked executive privilege once.
How much more cooperation do you want?
A total of four investigation, going on for nearly two years... all started based on a third hand accounts of a conversation between two drunks? And you find this reasonable?
Opps... set that one up for a myriad of jokes. Sorry Rog.
And you find this reasonable?
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he really does hate trump THAT much. so yeah, to him it's perfectly reasonable.
I guess Commensa would say that Trump is not propagandizing against the FBI and the media.
Only with every breath.
The question is cooperation James and actions speak louder than words.
If Trump has nothing to hide, why has he not cooperated and show that he had nothing to hide?????
If the FBI has nothing to hide, why have they not cooperated and show that they had nothing to hide?????
Fact check: Trump has been fully cooperative. In fact nearly everyone has been fully cooperative from the Trump campaign. Those who haven't have been charged with process crimes.
Not like the Clinton investigation, where several people were represented by the same attorney, several people lied and were not charged, or that the main suspect attempted to destroy subpoenaed evidence?
The only people attempting to hide anything right now appears to be the FBI.
The question is a President who does not comport himself the way a President should. And we all know that.
Trump says hate the FBI and Ch says Jawohl!
And there is no proof that the dossier or an anti-Trump philosophy alters the fact that the Russians were involved in at least via social media to alter the results of the election .
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so let's say that they were.
trump had nothing to do with it.
your arguments are becoming circular, all in defense of the indefensible.
you want to get pissed off about election interference, how about when it ACTUALLY happens??? 0linsky tried to influence israel's last election and he used taxpayer dollars to do it. where was your outrage then? ted kennedy met with kremlin officials to prevent reagan's reelection. that's been brought up around here on more than one occasion and you never said a word against it.
this russia, russia, russia thing has been grade A bullshit since day fucking one. it sprang from an excuse cooked up by hillary's flunkies to explain her miserable defeat. you hate this president, therefore you endorse this behavior, and all the illegal, immoral, and unethical nonsense that went along with it.
actions speak louder than words
Not when the words are spoken to halt an investigation.
The question is a President who does not comport himself the way a President should.
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according to the opinion of a known pederast.
now that's funny.
Calling me a known pederast is even funnier.
I never know whether I'm supposed to like little girls (Loretta-Savagetta)
or little boys (Rattetta).
I guess Commensa would say that Trump is not propagandizing against the FBI and the media.
I guess James would say that the FBI did not leak a whole bunch of information that led to the media propagandizing against Trump?
Those who live in glass houses?
Did you forget the Clinton's during Whitewater?
Did you forget Hillary attacking the investigation into her Email fiasco?
Did you forget the previous President telling everyone that would listen that Clinton shouldn't be charged with a crime?
Every political figure who's ever been under investigation has challenged the investigation, demanded it was a witch hunt, and worked to lower the credibility of those investigating them.
The difference here... if you want the god honest truth. Is for the first time, someone actually has been able to uncover real actual evidence that the investigation in question "is" partisan, "is" based on flimsy justification, and "is" basically a witch hunt to find crimes other than what is the pretense for the investigation in the first place.
But if the one yelling witchhunt is a witch?
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I may not agree with the law, but it is the law.
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what's "the law" alky?
that when the left loses an election they get to illegally use law enforcement to remove a president???
for fucks sake, you guys didn't even think THAT through. you take out trump you get pence. not her.
And there is no proof that the dossier or an anti-Trump philosophy alters the fact that the Russians were involved in at least via social media to alter the results of the election .
It's highly questionable that Russia's involvement with social media was ever illegal.
After all, this country still does have a 1st amendment that even applies to Russians.
That be said it looks like Russia social media campaign was minimal at best.
But if the one yelling witchhunt is a witch?
Now we're back in 17th century Salem.
Commensa has fallen for Trumpistafascitism.
He is pro-Russia and anti-FBI.
I never know whether I'm supposed to like little girls (Loretta-Savagetta)
or little boys (Rattetta).
I never thought you were particular.
True. Trump is not a witch, but a modern wiccan.
He is pro-Russia and anti-FBI.
Please James, that's lame. Even for you.
But if the one yelling witchhunt is a witch?
Yes, to the same degree that real live witches exist... so does your... um... argument?
anti-FBI?
how about anti dirty cop?
if the FBI finds itself swept up in that description that's the FBI's problem. not mine.
Never had a yen for males of any age.
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Former CIA counterterrorism official Phil Mudd: The FBI people "are ticked" and they'll be saying of Trump, “You’ve been around for 13 months. We've been around since 1908. I know how this game is going to be played. We're going to win" http://cnn.it/2GEPZD3
so the FBI is now issuing threats against the president.
It's becoming obvious that FISA was abused for political spying and influence of a presidential election" CS
Yep, clearly.
RRB WE CAN never ever forget the Treat Senator Chuck Schumer issued at the President Elect Donald Trump.
“Let me tell you: You take on the intelligence community — they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,” said Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer Tuesday evening on MSNBC after host Rachel Maddow "
LOL That was a real "treat" alright.
As I said to Tucker the other night, there's no evidence of Russian government interference with the 2016 election, but there's plenty of evidence of US government interference with the 2016 election. The latter ought to be far more disturbing. All foreign governments can be expected to pursue their national interests as they see fit. That the most powerful forces within your own government decide to subvert the election result is far more bizarre, and far graver.
The surveillance of Carter Page was a cover for the surveillance of Trump. The creation of the Steele dossier was a cover for the "Full Investigation" of the Trump campaign. The rumors of Kremlin "kompromat" are a cover for the widespread dissemination of Democrat "kompromat". And "foreign interference" in the US election is cover for domestic interference in the US election.
https://www.steynonline.com/8431/un-candid-in-camera
read the whole thing.
RRB WE CAN never ever forget the Treat Senator Chuck Schumer issued at the President Elect Donald Trump.
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all the more reason to find every single one of these deep state 0linsky holdovers, try them, convict them, and put them in prison for so fucking long they leave in a fucking box.
I knew that you would say this again to escape
Trump told CH the FBI is crooked.
Yes sir!
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Trump told CH the FBI is crooked.
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you idiot.
the FBI has been crooked since j edgar slipped into his first pair of lace panties.
every MLK day you you post that MLK was the greatest american of the 20th century or some such horse shit. you beloved FBI was spying on MLK BIGLY:
Hoping to prove the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. was under the influence of Communists, the FBI kept the civil rights leader under constant surveillance.
The agency's hidden tape recorders turned up almost nothing about communism.
But they did reveal embarrassing details about King's sex life -- details the FBI was able to use against him.
The almost fanatical zeal with which the FBI pursued King is disclosed in tens of thousands of FBI memos from the 1960s.
The FBI paper trail spells out in detail the government agency's concerted efforts to derail King's efforts on behalf of the civil rights movement.
The FBI's interest in King intensified after the March on Washington in August 1963, when King delivered his "I have a dream speech," which many historians consider the most important speech of the 20th century. After the speech, an FBI memo called King the "most dangerous and effective Negro leader in the country."
The bureau convened a meeting of department heads to "explore how best to carry on our investigation [of King] to produce the desired results without embarrassment to the Bureau," which included "a complete analysis of the avenues of approach aimed at neutralizing King as an effective Negro leader."
The FBI began secretly tracking King's flights and watching his associates. In July 1963, a month before the March on Washington, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover filed a request with Attorney General Robert Kennedy to tap King's and his associates' phones and to bug their homes and offices.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/31/mlk.fbi.conspiracy/
“Let me tell you: You take on the intelligence community — they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,” said Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer
In a healthy democracy a law abiding citizen should never be afraid of an intelligence community having "six ways from Sunday at getting back at you”.
Never.
Trump is right -- He and his campaign were victims of a political attack by the Justice Department and FBI
Like the Sept.11, 2001 terrorist attacks and even more than the Watergate scandal, Friday’s revelations should shake us. They change our assessment of the ostensibly non-political Justice Department and FBI, giving us pause.
We are living in a time when senior Justice Department and FBI officials felt justified, for political reasons, to deceive the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court and all Americans. The court grants surveillance warrants under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which authorizes surveillance of individuals believed to be agents of foreign powers.
The House Intelligence Committee memo shows that federal officials appear to have violated the public trust and their oaths of office, subverting laws for political outcomes. This should never happen.
Years ago I ran the State Department bureau focused on public corruption, rule of law and enforcement operations around the world. We had programs in 70 countries. Our chief objective was to teach struggling nations how to abide the “rule of law” and avoid public corruption.
Yet here we are, watching laws perverted for political ends in our own country, watching the heart of who we are shredded by people sworn to uphold our laws.
Clearly, Friday’s revelations put into the shadow all other inquires, disaffections, investigations and issues of concern regarding the 2016 presidential election. They are a trumpet call for accountability at the Justice Department and FBI.
Commensa said:
"In a healthy democracy a law abiding citizen should never be afraid of an intelligence community having "six ways from Sunday at getting back at you”.
Never."
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Nor should a law abiding President.
But that's just the question, isn't it?
WAS Trump abiding by the law?
A jury may have to decide.
Idiot
Wait till we get to the FISA requests that weren't granted, the state department coordinated unmaskings, what really happened on the tarmac, etc etc and don't forget about the IRS targeting, Holders censor, billions to Iran's terrorist funding etc etc..
Draining the swamp is exposing the sewer the previous administration ran.
UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE.
Obama and his hired thugs worked hand in glove with Hillary's thugs.
IF, not for the voters in Key States voted to end the Obama/Clinton Mob, none of this would have been known.
Rather than being drained, the swamp has gotten even swampier because of Trump.
But that's just the question, isn't it?
WAS Trump abiding by the law?
No, the question is whether we are living in a healthy democracy.
So far the answer is not too promising.
little jimmy pipes up, quick get cover we probably are about to get a shitload of unrelated spam from political_lire
Very old like little jimmy but that's all he's got.
ROFLMFAO !!!
To the Liberals, how are going to enjoy your tax cuts?
I've been holding my own here.
Little Cowardly doesn't deserve to take the name Obama.
And the President who seems most to want to be "king"
is presently in the White House.
Well, at least he can only yell, "You're fired!"
He can't say "Off with his/her head!"
I guess that will come later when he has tried to pull a coup against the entire government, including the FBI and Department of Justice, including many of his own appointees who are just trying to do their jobs and uphold the law.
We do know for a fact HB attempted to High jack CHT ID. CS, caught HB and exposed him.
Jane has used 12 or more ID's and CHT exposed him.
Why did these two self proclaimed intelligent boys have to hide, deceive and lie?
Jane, starting at the President, who works for him?
Can you name those entities?
Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) retweeted an Associated Press story detailing how some workers have begun to see more take-home pay as the result of new tax law.
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Paul Ryan's tweet:
A secretary at a public high school in
Lancaster, PA, said she was pleasantly
surprised her pay went up $1.50 a week.
she said that will more than cover her
Costco membership for the year.
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He later deleted the tweet after being roundly mocked on social media.
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James said: ROFL
How much did the millionaires and billionaries pay go up a week?
Jane, starting at the President, who works for him?
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He may have us all worfking for him before it's all over.
After he gets rid of the FBI, slave labor camps can't be
far behind.
I guess that will come later when he has tried to pull a coup against the entire government
James is a moron. You can't pull a coup against your own government.
Let's review.
President Trump is the duly elected head of state and of the government.
The means he is the legitimate head of state and government.
A coup is an illegal plot against the legitimate head of state and the government.
It is impossible for Trump to pull a coup against himself.
It is possible however, for elements of the DOJ and FBI to engage in activities to illegally set aside the legitimately elected head of state.
Any questions?
Trump Seized on Memo Before Reading It
Even before he’d read the memo, President Trump seized on what it could mean, the AP reports.
“Trump told confidants in recent days that he believed the memo would validate his concerns that the ‘deep state’ — an alleged shadowy network of powerful entrenched federal and military interests — had conspired to undermine the legitimacy of his presidency, according to one outside adviser.
“Trump’s decision to authorize the memo’s public disclosure was extraordinary, yet part of a recent pattern. Like few of his predecessors, Trump has delivered repeated broadsides against intelligence and law enforcement agencies, working in tandem with some conservatives to lay the groundwork to either dismiss or discredit special counsel Robert Mueller, who is leading the Russia investigation.”
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But you see the problem is, Mueller knows what he's doing and how to do it.
Trump doesn't.
ROFLMFAO !!!
more unrelated political_lire spam from the "pastor"
WHAT A FUCKING ASSHOLE and yes a moron.
ROFLMFAO !!!
WOW,
the "pastor" found something on political_lire that is even relevant
impressive??? not
ROFLMFAO!!!
Comey Unhinged -- for Good Reason
The Nunes Memo confirms that the basis for the FISA warrants to spy on Trump associates was the Steele “dossier,” paid for by the DNC and Hillary Clinton. The Memo reveals that the FBI also paid for it. The persons who signed the FISA applications are James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Sally Yates, Rod Rosenstein, and Dana Boente. The Memo confirms that the political origins of the Steele Dossier, that it was bought and paid for by Hillary and the DNC, were not disclosed to the FISA court.
The legal standard for a search warrant was stated by the Supreme Court in Aguilar v. Texas, 378 U.S. 108 (164). The standard to apply when the facts necessary for probable cause are based on an informant and not the direct knowledge of the officer swearing the affidavit for probable cause is as follows:
“Although an affidavit supporting a search warrant may be based on hearsay information and need not reflect the direct personal observations of the affiant, the magistrate must be informed of some of the underlying circumstances relied on by the person providing the information and some of the underlying circumstances from which the affiant concluded that the informant, whose identity was not disclosed, was creditable or his information reliable.”
This is significant because when applying for a warrant based on information from an informant, the applicant must state why the informant is reliable. In this case, the informant is Steele. In the typical case, the applicant states that the informant has provided reliable information in the past, or that the informant’s information has been verified and it must state how it was verified. The FISA application should have informed the Court why Steele is credible. The FISA application should have informed the Court that Steele was paid by the DNC, Hillary, and even the FBI authorized payment. The Steele Dossier has the additional problem that Steele obtained information from Russians whom he paid.
This should have been disclosed, because application relies on the information given by Russians paid by Steele, and relayed to Steele. This is double hearsay. This means the Court must be advised why the Russian agents, paid by Steele, are reliable.
Comey, McCabe, and maybe others misled the FISA Court by not disclosing all the critical facts about how the dossier was obtained. This means that there was no probable cause for the warrants, and all evidence obtained as a result of the warrant should be suppressed, which means it cannot be used in a criminal prosecution.
The disclosure of these facts explains the hysterical reaction of the Dems and Comey. Comey seems unhinged
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
As he often does, Commensa pretends to have knowledge he does not have.
He says,
"President Trump is the duly elected head of state and of the government.
"The means he is the legitimate head of state and government.
"A coup is an illegal plot against the legitimate head of state and the government.
"It is impossible for Trump to pull a coup against himself."
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BS Commensa.
All I had to do was look at the Wiki article "List of coups de etat and attempted coups" and my eye fell on these:
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1937
Brazilian president Getúlio Vargas, governing democratically since 1934, launches a self-coup and becomes the Dictator of Brazilian Estado Novo ("New State").
1938
King Carol II of Romania launches a self-coup, abolishing parliamentary democracy in favor of a royal dictatorship.
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Thus, a democratically elected official can overthrow the government and establish a dictatorship.
Very relevant james,
though unhinged
you think Trump is trying to establish a dictatorship.
7 more years of this.
more popcorn PLEAZ !!
ROFLMFAO !!!
C.H. Truth said...
Please stop the silly James Boswell spam
He won't
He is above everyone because he is a "pastor"
No, I don't think even Trump thinks he can establish a dictatorship.
He's just seeing how far he can push the evnvelope.
And he will find out.
Ch was referring to your spamming my name, Cowardly/a.k.a. James's
F**king Daddy."
You are the one who has been putting Roger's name
over something he would never say about me.
You are the big coward here.
Guess he should stop turning documents over, have his officials plead the 5th and start acting like the previous president.
He won
Ch deleted several of your earlier "pedophile" posts.
Yet you keep on.
FUCK YOU JAMES, I AM NOT THAT PERSON AS I'VE TOLD YOU NUMEROUS TIMES.
thanks for calling me a coward.
COWARDLY KING OBAMA
ROFLMFAO !!!
Jane, starting at the President, who works for him?
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He may have us all worfking for him before it's all over.
After he gets rid of the FBI, slave labor camps can't be
far behind."
Better go back to cut n paste. You fail everytime you attempt to post on your own.
Yes, you are, liar.
He won.
And then he swore to uphold the Constitution under the rules of law.
Not easy for one so narcissistic and power-hungry to do.
I HAVE NOY POSTED A SINGLE PEDOLPHILE POST TODAY
other than now bringing up that you are an undocumented pedophile which comes from you
The latest pedophile post was again not me, and I am not a fan of them.
GET A FUCKING CLUE
"pastor" james boswell, normal Illinois
you deserve to burn in hell for your false accusations as a pastor.
you are wrong, you must know you don't know, but I do
FUCK OFF ASSHOLE.
I'll bet Ch would welcome a blog that was devoid of
"Cowardly King Obama" (a stupid nomenclature)
and
"James's F**king Daddy"
posts.
And he has specifically requested a cessation of the
stupid pedophile posts.
Democrats Say Republicans Are Obstructing Probe
NBC News has exclusively obtained a six-page rebuttal to the Nunes memo from Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-NY) the top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, which was to be circulated to all House Democrats.
The rebuttal says the Nunes’ memo “provides no credible basis whatsoever” for removing Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and that the memo shows that Republicans “are now part and parcel to an organized effort to obstruct” Mueller’s probe.
Writes Nadler: “Until now, we could only really accuse House Republicans of ignoring the President’s open attempts to block the Russia investigation. But with the release of the Nunes memo… we can only conclude that House Republicans are complicit in the effort to help the President avoid accountability for his actions and the actions of his campaign.”
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That's how dictatorships start.
Saturday Night Massacre Coming?
4:32 Washington Post:
“Trump has told advisers in recent days that he was hopeful the memo’s release would pave the way for further shake-ups at Justice, including firing Rosenstein.”
You think that he is a liar. You are foolish beyond belief.
The dossier was written by former British spy Christopher Steele, whose work was funded with money from the Democratic National Committee. Steele wanted to block Trump from becoming president, the memo alleged.
“While the [surveillance] application relied on Steele’s past record of credible reporting on other unrelated matters, it ignored or concealed his anti-Trump financial and ideological motivations,” the memo said.
“Our findings … raise concerns with the legitimacy and legality of certain DOJ and FBI interactions with the” surveillance court, and “represent a troubling breakdown of legal processes established to protect the American people from abuses,” the memo read.
On Wednesday, after Wray reviewed the memo, the FBI issued a statement saying it has “grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy.”
Page first came onto the FBI radar several years ago, well before Trump announced his latest candidacy, because suspected Russian spies in New York City were overheard saying they wanted to recruit Page as an intelligence asset.
The suspected spies were later charged, but no charges were brought against Page.
In his video to FBI employees Friday, Wray said he is “continually inspired by what you do on a daily basis to keep people safe.”
“In the end, actions speak louder than words. That sounds simple, but there's real strength in remembering that,” Wray said. “The American people read the papers and they hear lots of talk on cable TV and social media. But they see and experience the actual work you do, keeping communities safe and our nation secure, often dealing with sensitive matters and making decisions under difficult circumstances. And that work will always matter more.”
Democrats release confidence al US secrets without the Approval of the President or the Attorney General Of the United States.
Surely No One Supports that lawlessness.
This "You're fired!" may really backfire.
#Twitternightmassacre
Ok, too funny the cut n paste fainting queens are out doing each other.
CH opined wrongly
Fact check: Trump has been fully cooperative
BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!! You have no basis to make that statement....What about his tax returns??????
"Anonymous James said...
I'll bet Ch would welcome a blog that was devoid of
"Cowardly King Obama" (a stupid nomenclature)
and
"James's F**king Daddy"
posts."
I know he has said that he felt they would go away if you would stop your ridiculous political_lire spam. And he was right.
And I'm sure he would love a blog devoid of your constant spamming of them
ROFLMFAO at the hypocrite
The president himself said, after the memo’s release on Friday, that it “vindicates” him in the probe.
But it does no such thing. The memo from House Republicans, led by Representative Devin Nunes, fell well short of the hype. Its main argument is that when the Justice Department sought a warrant to wiretap the former Trump adviser Carter Page, it did not reveal that Christopher Steele — the author of a controversial opposition-research dossier — was funded by the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign through a law firm.
This is actually a fairly common — and rarely effective — argument made by defendants who seek to suppress evidence obtained by a warrant.
What might be the lasting legacy of the Nunes memo is how President Trump reacted to it. According to reports, Mr. Trump suggested “the memo might give him the justification to fire [the deputy attorney general, Rod Rosenstein] — something about which Trump has privately mused — or make other changes at the Justice Department, which he had complained was not sufficiently loyal to him.”
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In fact, Mr. Trump’s approval of the release of the memo and his comments that releasing it could make it easier for him to fire Mr. Rosenstein could help Robert Mueller, the special counsel, prove that Mr. Trump fired James B. Comey, then the F.B.I. director, with a “corrupt” intent — in other words, the intent to wrongfully impede the administration of justice — as the law requires.
After all, Mr. Trump is now aware that he is under investigation for obstruction, and he knows that Mr. Comey said that Mr. Trump wanted “loyalty” from him. Mr. Mueller could argue that the president’s comments that Mr. Rosenstein was not “loyal” and his desire to fire Mr. Rosenstein suggest Mr. Trump’s unlawful intent when he fired Mr. Comey.
The memo also offers the outlines of a broader probable cause case against Mr. Page.
#Twitternightmassacre
Alas, it seems that this memo has as much value as a degree from Trump University.
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LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Not political_lire
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If the application does not meet the standards of probable cause, then all evidence obtained pursuant to the warrant, and evidence that can be connected to the warrant, cannot be used in a criminal prosecution. This is called "fruit of the poisonous tree," which means that if the warrant is bad, then all the evidence obtained is tainted and cannot be used. There are exceptions, such as if it was discovered from a source independent of the illegal activity or if its discovery was inevitable (Silverthorne v. USA, 251 U.S. 385 [1920]).
This is important because Mueller is probably using evidence developed by use of the FISA warrant. If Mueller wants to use the evidence, then he has to prove that the warrant was lawfully obtained, which means he has to prove that the dossier was reliable. Or Mueller has to prove that he would have discovered the evidence without the warrant, which would be difficult. Or Mueller has to prove he obtained it form another source, not the warrant or the dossier.
It seems that all roads lead to the dossier. Mueller, as an officer of the court, should disclose whether he is using evidence obtained pursuant to the warrant. Did he use such evidence to prosecute Michael Flynn?
The Dems and mainstream media ridiculed President Trump when he said Obama "had my wires tapped at Trump Tower." The facts now show that Obama, through his DOJ and FBI, did authorize spying on the Trump campaign. Obama's attorney general, Lynch, had to approve the application for the warrant, which means she had to agree that the dossier was reliable. It is not credible that Lynch approved the FISA application without approval from Obama.
Trump was correct on the essential spying, if not the specific means.
Obama used information gathered and paid for by Hillary to attempt to discredit Trump.
Yep
Let's grant the left thier case.
How did the Russian -Nazi Trump change votes?
Roger - as pointed out.
Christopher Steele wasn't the actual source. He wrote the dossier. He paid Russian sources for the information.
The Dossier was unverified third hand information. Ironically Russians telling a former British agent that Trump was working with Russians to gather dirt on Hillary.
Multiple sources are confirming that Rod Rosenstein illegally used the power of his office to threaten congress over the memo. That is illegal.
As he often does, Commensa pretends to have knowledge he does not have.
Moron, what part of duly elected did you not understand?
Get back to be when Trump overextends his legitimate term or declares himself king.
He won.
And then he swore to uphold the Constitution under the rules of law.
Not easy for one so narcissistic and power-hungry to do.
On that score he's doing far better than your plastic jesus ever did.
He did not unconstitutionally grant amnesty to illegal aliens like your plastic jesus did.
He did not exceed his authority to create burdensome regulations like your plastic jesus.
He did not enter any treaties without consent of the senate like your plastic jesus did.
In fact he has followed the constitution far more closely than your plastic jesus ever did.
But it does no such thing. The memo from House Republicans, led by Representative Devin Nunes, fell well short of the hype.
That's not correct it exactly lived up to it's hype.
That's why the Democrats are so pissed.
An Unparalleled War On Law Enforcement
New York Times: “The war between the president and the nation’s law enforcement apparatus is unlike anything America has seen in modern times. With a special counsel investigating whether his campaign collaborated with Russia in 2016 and whether Mr. Trump obstructed justice in 2017, the president has engaged in a scorched-earth assault on the pillars of the criminal justice system in a way that no other occupant of the White House has done.”
“In his telling, that bureaucracy, NOW RUN BY HIS OWN APPOINTEES, is a nest of political saboteurs out to undermine him — an accusation that raised fears that he was tearing at the credibility of some of the most important institutions in American life TO SAVE HIMSELF.”
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He must really be scared to death. What does he know that he doesn't want us to find out?
The memo is a big NOTHINGBURGER.
Comey said, THAT'S IT?
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'That's it?' Comey rips House committee over memo
Former FBI Director James Comey lobbed criticism at Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee on Friday, asking his Twitter followers, “That’s it?” after the release of a disputed and much-hyped memo about alleged bias at the FBI and Department of Justice.
Comey suggested that the memo had failed to offer proof of malfeasance while doing significant damage to the intelligence community.
“That’s it? Dishonest and misleading memo
wrecked the House intel committee, destroyed
trust with Intelligence Community, damaged
relationship with FISA court, and inexcusably
exposed classified investigation of an American
citizen,” Comey tweeted.
“For what? DOJ & FBI must keep doing their jobs.”
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WHICH THEY WILL, WHICH THEY WILL
AMAZING THAT POLITICAL_LIRE puts in with COMEY - not
It is basically a mouthpiece for the DNC
Wonder if Comey is going to be called back to Capital Hill, lying under oath is perjury and he did just that. No wonder he is saying nothing to see, here move on.
The "pastor" may buy that but honest Americans won't.
Comey in Trouble, Laywer Moves to Have Him Disbarred
At what point do public officials need to face professional consequences for their abuses of power?
That’s what an attorney in Maryland is asking, and posing serious questions about former FBI Director James Comey’s credentials as a lawyer in the wake of this week’s memo scandal.
According to The Washington Times, Ty Clevenger has filed a formal grievance to disbar Comey in New York, where the now scandal-plagued ex-director is licensed by the state bar to practice law.
In light of growing evidence that Comey and much of the FBI set out to exonerate Hillary Clinton and undermine Donald Trump based on political bias, Clevenger is claiming that the former FBI chief was dishonest to Congress about the Clinton email investigation.
“Mr. Clevenger said Mr. Comey’s testimony to Congress that he did not predetermine the outcome of the FBI’s probe into former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is belied by revelations this week that he in fact started drafting an exoneration months before even speaking with Mrs. Clinton,” The Washington Times reported.
“Insofar as Mr. Comey gave materially false testimony to Congress, it appears that he violated Rules 1.0(w), 3.3(a)(1), and 8.4 of the New York Rules of Professional Conduct,” the grievance filed by Clevenger states.
We’ve seen a lot covering American politics over the last two decades, but we have never seen THIS — a public fight between House Republicans and an FBI led by a Republican who was appointed by a Republican president. And it’s a fight that a Republican White House has seemed to encourage.
As NBC’s Ken Dilanian has pointed out,
it’s not normal for the FBI and Justice Department to publicly object to the release of a document that the White House has said should be released;
it’s not normal for the Republican chairman of the House Intel Committee (Nunes) refused to share a classified document of mutual interest with the Republican chairman of the Senate Intel Committee (Richard Burr);
it’s not normal for the agency that was the source of classified material (Justice Department) to be excluded from the formal declassification process;
and it’s not normal for anyone in the government to expose secret material that sheds light on surveillance under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (when Edward Snowden leaked such material, he was called a traitor).
Remember when the potential mishandling of classified information was the GOP’s top concern in the 2016 presidential election?
Trump Adviser Bragged of Kremlin Ties In 2013
Former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page bragged that he was an adviser to the Kremlin in a letter obtained by Time that raises new questions about the extent of Page’s contacts with the Russian government.
From the letter, dated Aug. 25, 2013: “Over the past half year, I have had the privilege to serve as an informal advisor to the staff of the Kremlin in preparation for their Presidency of the G-20 Summit next month, where energy issues will be a prominent point on the agenda.”
The FBI appears to have used misleading information to secure a warrant from a FICA Judge in order to garner warrants against members of the Trump campaign.
Ironically, two member of the Trump campaign have been charged with crimes and have faced federal punishment... for making misleading statements to the FBI.
Do as I say, not as I do? The FBI is above their own laws?
Liberals argue that we shouldn't look into the FBI or shed light on their abuses, because it's not worth the hit to their reputation. They don't even argue that the hit to their reputation is unjustified? It seems entirely justified based on the evidence.
But liberals argue that we must leave no stone left upturned in the pursuit of any possible signs of corruption regarding anything Trump, regardless of how this effects the Presidency... even as they must eventually admit that the investigation might be unjustified due to a lack of evidence.
Evidence against the FBI? Ignore it.
No evidence against the President? Keep looking.
FLASHBACK: Chris Cillizza Called Trump ‘Bonkers’ For Saying Clinton And FBI Were Behind Dossier
CNN’s Chris Cillizza called President Donald Trump and his followers “bonkers” and “crazy” last year for believing the FBI and the Clinton campaign were involved in the now-infamous Steele dossier.
Cillizza chastised Trump and his cadre of followers in October of last year for suggesting and supporting the idea that Democrats and elements inside the FBI were involved in funding the dossier. He called them conspiracy theorists at the time.
“He is suggesting that a dossier prepared by a former member of British intelligence has not only been totally discredited … but that it might have been funded by some combination of Russia, the Democratic Party and, wait for it, the FBI!” Cillizza wrote in a missive at the time.
Trump has mercilessly lambasted CNN in the past for what he calls promulgating fake news – the 24-hour news network won the president’s fake news award in early January. Cillizza has been a frequent critic of the Trump administration, and implored Republicans in his October article to dismiss the president’s alleged conspiracy theories.
“You can love Donald Trump and still believe that the idea that the Russians, the Democrats and the FBI co-funded a dossier designed to discredit Trump’s 2016 campaign is totally bonkers,” said Cillizza, a former writer with The Washington Post who fashions himself a type of advocacy journalist.
He added: “But, there is no plausible scenario by which what Trump suggested this morning — a wide-scale conspiracy involving three separate actors across federal agencies and continents — actually happened.”
His criticisms came mere days before a report from WaPo showed former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee paid opposition research firm Fusion GPS to investigate Trump as part of a project that led to former British spy Christopher Steele’s dossier.
Marc E. Elias, a lawyer for the Clinton campaign and DNC, and his law firm, Perkins Coie, hired Fusion GPS in April of 2016 to investigate Trump, according to an October 24 report from WaPo, Cillizza’s former employer.
Cillizza’s remarks also came five months before Republicans released a memo showing the FBI hid evidence from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) that Steele was stridently opposed to Trump’s presidential campaign.
Steele received over $160,000 in payment from Fusion GPS and Perkins Coie, both of which channeled the money from the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign. The FISC did not hear about that, nor was it told that, as the memo reports before granting the Department of Justice a warrant to spy on former Trump adviser, Carter Page.
On that score he's doing far better than your plastic jesus ever did." CS
Exactly, He knew exactly what Comey, Biden and Lynch where up to with team Clinton.
FBI Agent that questioned Hillary was ehom?
Peter Strzok is a snake
Isikoff Stunned That His Carter Page Article Was Used To Justify Spy Warrant
Investigative journalist Michael Isikoff said Friday that he was surprised to find out that an article he wrote about Carter Page prior to the election was used to obtain a spy warrant against the former Trump campaign adviser.
The revelation, which was made in a memo released by the House Intelligence Committee on Friday, “stuns me,” Isikoff said in an episode of his podcast, “Skullduggery.”
The four-page memo alleges that the DOJ and FBI submitted inaccurate and incomplete information in a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant against Page. The spy warrant was granted on Oct. 21, 2016.
One “essential” part of the application was the uncorroborated Steele dossier, according to the memo. And an article that Isikoff wrote for Yahoo! News on Sept. 23, 2016 that was based directly on the dossier was “cited extensively” in the application.
Isikoff was shocked, he said, because his very article was based on information that came from Christopher Steele, the former British spy who wrote the dossier. He said it was “a bit beyond me” that the FBI would use his article in the FISA application. (RELATED: Spy Warrant Relied On Dossier And News Stories Planted By Fusion GPS)
“Obviously the information that I got from Christopher Steele was information the FBI already had,” he said, noting that Steele began sharing information from his dossier in July 2016.
Isikoff acknowledged the potential problem with the DOJ and FBI citing his article to support the FISA against Page.
“It’s self-referential,” he said of the article and its reliance on the dossier.
“My story is about the FBI’s own investigation,” he continued.
“So it seems a little odd that they would be citing the Yahoo! News story about the matter that they are investigating themselves based on the same material that had been separately presented to the FBI before I was ever briefed by Christopher Steele.” (RELATED: Inside Fusion GPS’s Media Outreach Campaign)
KD said...
Peter Strzok is a snake
And you are an asshole....
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