- The issue started when the NY Times reported that a Senior White House official had stated that reengaging the June 12th summit at this time would be impossible.
- The President shot back with the tweet (provided in the previous post) that the meeting could still take place and that such a White House official doesn't exist.
- So some others in the media raced to the NY Time defense, by suggesting that the White House official "did" exist, stating that the official in question was Matt Pottinger from the National Security Counsel, Eventually there was audio provided that sure enough had an official named Matt Pottinger who discussed the on again off again summit with the media (including the NY Times reporter in question).
- Gotcha!!! Right!!!
- Well almost. The reality is that if you actually listen through the whole audio, Pottinger doesn't actually claim that the June 12th date was impossible. According to the audio he suggested that there was not a lot of time, that valuable time had been lost, and that the ball was in North Korea's court.
- More to the point, if the June 12th date was impossible, the White House would not have sent a team to Singapore to start making the arrangements if the summit officially is back on.
So, the reality is that the NY Times provided a quote from an unnamed source that didn't exist. Now we can quibble about whether it was the "quote" or the "official" that didn't exist, but the truth is that without a quote that backs up the NY Times story, then there cannot possibly be an official that provided the quote (can there be?). Obviously providing the actual quote would have made for a much different story (or possibly no story at all). If that was the case, then the President would not have questioned the story.
Bottom line: the media is providing a semantic argument as an attempt to cover up the fact that the Times provided "fake news". The problem is that I am not 100% sure that they even realize that they are doing so. It makes you wonder how often they simply provide a "quote" that never actually was made to an unnamed source who said something close enough to being similar that they can justify the story they wanted to write?
164 comments:
Semantics aside. Trump lied.
n a tweet, the president took issue with that sentence, saying, “WRONG AGAIN! Use real people, not phony sources.”
It is not clear whether the president was simply unaware of the actions of his own senior staff or if he knowingly ignored the truth. The source of that sentence was a White House official who held a briefing on Thursday afternoon in the White House briefing room that was attended by about 50 reporters, with about 200 or so more on a conference call.
Reporters often request such briefings to be on the record, which would allow the official to be named. But, in this case, the rules of the briefing imposed by the White House required that the official be referred to only as a “senior White House official.” The Times is continuing to abide by that agreement.
The Times was been right all along.
More Fake opinionated horse crap....Semantics is what you think you do best with most of your straw man arguments which result in you and all R'S looking like trump, frauds!!!....you have never seen an alternate fact you did not buy into.....LOLOLOL Got proof of spies yet? Or millions of illegal votes? Or Obama being kenyan?
You actually believe that a reporter will provide a "quote" that never actually was made to an unnamed source who said.
Reporters are not motivated by partisan beliefs. They report what happened.
Semantics aside. Trump lied.
There was no source that said what the New York Times said.
So in effect the Times made up a false source the spread a lie.
It wasn't Trump that was lying.
The President is motivated by only one thing. His own self interest. It's not semantics to say that you are not using disitredted analysis. The defense of the President is your only motivation.
The truth condense into 140 characters:
Mollie Verified account @MZHemingway
NYT said WH official said June 12 meeting was impossible.
WH official actually said ball is in NK court and clock is ticking.
Trump said no source exists who said June 12 meeting was impossible.
Since WH official exists WHO DID NOT SAY what NYT claims, media say he's lying.
This is untrue.
So in effect the Times made up a false source the spread a lie.
Maybe you should stop taking the blue pill.
Image result for @mzhemingway
Mollie Ziegler Hemingway is an American political commentator. She is currently a senior editor at the online magazine The Federalist, and a contributor for Fox News as of March 2017. Wikipedia
She has nothing but her opinion.
That's all you have.
You probably have a life long prescription for the blue pills.
Roger...
DID YOU FUCKING READ THE POST YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!!!!
The person the Times is claiming is the source...
NEVER FUCKING SAID WHAT THEY CLAIMED HE SAID!!!!
Stop accepting everything you fucking read as gospel.
THINK FOR YOURSELF!!!
Think for yourself and read the following.
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"PHONY!" says Trump.
"No, you lie," say numerous people who heard the actual source.
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Trump slaps 'phony' label on aide's comments
in White House-arranged call
President Donald Trump slammed the New York Times Saturday for using “phony sources” in a story citing a White House official – but the comments the paper referred to came from a formal background briefing attended by multiple news organizations and widely reported.
Trump appeared to be responding to a Times story about his on-again, off-again plans for a June 12 summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.
TRUMP:
“The Failing @nytimes quotes ‘a senior White House official,’ who doesn’t exist, as saying ‘even if the meeting were reinstated, holding it on June 12 would be impossible, given the lack of time and the amount of planning needed,’“ the president wrote on Twitter.
The Times cited a White House official in a story about Trump’s reversal on the summit following his abrupt decision to withdraw from the historic sit-down in a letter sent Thursday.
The paper reported that the official said holding the meeting on the originally scheduled date would be “impossible,” though in fact the official didn’t use the word during the background briefing, held on Thursday afternoon at the White House and organized by the press office.
TRANSCRIPT:
“There’s a certain amount of actual dialogue that needs to take place at the working level with your counterparts to ensure that the agenda is clear in the minds of those two leaders when they sit down to actually meet and talk and negotiate, and hopefully make a deal. And June 12 is in 10 minutes, and it's going to be – you know,” the official said, according to a White House transcript. “But the President has said that he has – someday, that he looks forward to meeting with Kim.”
POLITICO was among the news organizations that participated in the call and reported the official’s comments at the time.
Reporters were quick to call the president out following his tweet.
“I mean, every reporter on the call knows who this official was, and this official exists,” Mike Warren, a senior writer for the conservative Weekly Standard wrote on Twitter. “And we all heard the official say it.”
White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters Saturday the White House pre-advance team is heading to Singapore as scheduled to move ahead with logistics. Trump has indicated he’s open to holding the June 12 summit, and Kim met Saturday with South Korean President Moon Jae-in to get the meeting back on track.
Trump has repeatedly fumed at the unnamed White House sources in stories about his administration and the leaks that are spread through many of their quotes. POLITICO reported the president demanded and White House chief of staff John Kelly signed off on a plan to that would dismiss junior aides in the communications shop, who have been blamed for the leaks.
“WRONG AGAIN! Use real people,” Trump concluded on Saturday. “not phony sources.”
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Sorry, Mr. President.
This was no phony source but a real person indeed.
You are the phony and have YET AGAIN exposed yourself as a liar.
Rat is right. Never in our lives have we seen such an outstanding example of invincible ignorance as Roger Amick.
He and WP must be in competition.
Sorry, Mr. President.
This was no phony source but a real person indeed.
Which real person said "The June 12 meeting was impossible"?
Go on James. Go prove you're not the phony hack that you are.
TRANSCRIPT:
“There’s a certain amount of actual dialogue that needs to take place at the working level with your counterparts to ensure that the agenda is clear in the minds of those two leaders when they sit down to actually meet and talk and negotiate, and hopefully make a deal. And June 12 is in 10 minutes, and it's going to be – you know,” the official said, according to a White House transcript. “But the President has said that he has – someday, that he looks forward to meeting with Kim.”
Sure sounds like the real official, whose words are transcribed here, was saying there was not enough time -- only, so to speak, ten minutes.
"Someday" [not June 12] "he looks forward to meeting with Kim."
Look who isn't at the pulpit, again.
FYI, Matthew Pottinger is the NSC Senior Director for Asian Affairs who made the statement transcribed in the post above.
But he does not exist, according to Trump.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
I knew chickenshit James would dodge the question.
I don't blame CH one bit for deleting his useless posts.
"I don't blame CH one bit for deleting his useless posts."
I just wish he had time to delete more of them.
LIAR-ETTA: Look who isn't at the pulpit, again.
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Knee slapping funny. Our service today was at 10:15 and I preached on being Born Again, FROM today's lectionary scripture John chapter 3.
Service ended around 11:10 and I posted the first blog above from the church office at 11:31.
Poor Loretta-Savagetta-Liar-etta. She just can't make anything she says about me stick.
Only the reading-challenged would say I dodged the question.
Your insecurity is signaled by the fact that you have to call names.
But "LIAR-etta" is more than a name. It is a truth.
"Service ended around 11:10 and I posted the first blog above from the church office at 11:31."
Liar.
The pedophile answered nothing.
To be called a liar by LIAR-etta is a supreme complement. She can call the church and ask if Jim Boswell preached here this Sunday.
Give it a rest pedophile, everyone knows you're a fraud.
And by the way, Ch has not deleted me for a long time.
Posts like those at 11:39 and ll:50 are NOT "useless." Even if Ch disagrees with them, they are at least informative and challenging.
LOL
To be called a fraud by the biggest fraud on this blog is also a complement.
I have exposed her lies time and time and time again ... ad infinitum (almost).
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
I'm listed, but James Marshall Boswell, Jr isn't.
http://www.ucc.org/changes_and_deaths
Fraud.
SO THE ACTUAL TRANSCRIPTION OF THE TRUMP OFFICIAL DOES NOT SAY WHAT THE NEW YORK TIMES REPORTED,
and the pastor defends them along with the MSM and weaselly deflects to try and say Trump said his spokesman doesn't exist
The Obama enablers
Who enabled the MOST CORRUPT WHITE HOUSE IN HISTORY
easy to see how they got away with it. BURN IN HELL.
The person who provided the quote denied it because if he admitted to being the source, would he out of the job and be escorted by the secret service agents.
THINK FOR YOURSELF
You're the one talking the word of the President as gospel. He's a liar.
I read your Script and as usual proves that the President is the second coming of Jesus disguised by a hair piece.
Mike Warren, a senior writer for the conservative Weekly Standard wrote on Twitter. “And we all heard the official say it.”
POLITICO was among the news organizations that participated in the call and reported the official’s comments at the time.
Reporters were quick to call the president out following his tweet.
“I mean, every reporter on the call knows who this official was, and this official exists,” Mike Warren, a senior writer for the conservative Weekly Standard wrote on Twitter. “And we all heard the official say it.”
James. Your Facebook account has been hacked.
So the Russians hacked the transcript the "pastor" posted
Right Roger
ROFLMFAO !!!
Oh and the "not June 12" was inserted and not part of the transcript
odd
ROFLMFAO !!!
THINK FOR YOURSELF
Republican Sen. Marco Rubio said he sees "no evidence" to support President Trump's claims that the FBI used an informant to gather information on his campaign, but that instead the federal probe was focused on "individuals with a history of links to Russia that were concerning."
"What I have seen is evidence that they were investigating individuals with a history of links to Russia that were concerning," Rubio, a Florida senator who sits on the Senate Intelligence Committee told ABC News Chief Global Affairs Correspondent and "This Week" Co-Anchor Martha Raddatz on Sunday.
"James. Your Facebook account has been hacked."
Yeah, that happens when you visit gay porn sites.
Now this is hilarious.
Loretta-Savagetta-LIAR-etta (pretending to be Teresa Dulyea-Parker) gives the following link and says I'm not listed there.
Teresa Dulyea-Parker said...
I'm listed, but James Marshall Boswell, Jr isn't.
http://www.ucc.org/changes_and_deaths
Fraud.
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Knee slapping funny.
Of course I am not listed on a United Church of Christ (UCC) link.
I'm an ordained pastor of the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), not the United Church of Christ.
Poor LIAR-etta. She strikes out again.
(She tries SO hard.)
"Republican Sen. Marco Rubio said he sees "no evidence" to support President Trump's claims that the FBI used an informant to gather information on his campaign,"
Poor little Marco.
SO.....Think for yourself with the inserted "I think he may be thinking" add-ins.
Can't make this shit up
So sad I won't even ROFLMFAO.
Yep. He is to be pitied. Republicans still willing to tell the truth are indeed to be pitied in today's GOP.
btw TRUMP NOW UP TO 44% APPROVAL on the RCP AVERAGES
UP TREND IS CONTINUING !!!
Rubio went on
He added, "If there is an FBI informant or any sort of inappropriate action that’s been taken targeting a political campaign, the president’s or any, we want to know about it and it should be punished."
Should we add some Rubio quotes about Obama for the "pastor" ?
Your link pedophile.
Semantics The word "If" is used a lot by those who want to give credence to a lie or distortion. Rubio said
"If there is an FBI informant or any sort of inappropriate action that’s been taken targeting a political campaign, the president’s or any, we want to know about it and it should be punished."
Kput'z in disguise a quote as a confirmation that there was a spy in the Trump campaign. That is not what he said.
I read your Script and as usual proves that the President is the second coming of Jesus disguised by a hair piece.
But you didn't bother to read the transcript of the meeting, huh?
NobodyI know takes the President at his word. Every time there is a question I simply look at the facts. Somethings he is right. Many times he is wrong.
On the flip side, rather than read this guys quote yourself (it's available all over the internet) - you simply...
Wait for it...
CUT AND FUCKING PASTE FROM POLITICO AND THE NY TIMES!!!
The facts are simple. The person in question did not say that the June 12 meeting was impossible as the NY Times stated.
Now the NY Times might have "taken that" from what he said, but that is not what he said, and "that" interpretation of his meaning is not the general consensus.
So the question here Roger...
Can you claim to quote someone when you are using some sort of "interpretation" of what you believe was "implied"??
Isn't a quote supposed to be what that person "actually said"?
Why didn't the Time quote what this guy actually said if they were going to use him as their "high ranking official"?
Why?
Why?
Why?
The fact that you are not curious as to why the Times decided to use their own interpretation of what someone said as a "quote"? Doesn't it make you wonder how often their "anonymous quotes" are not really quotes, but rather a variation of the quote that fits the framework of the story they are trying to write?
This is why the MSM has so little credibility these days.
Who the hell is he talking about?
Who’s going to give back the young and beautiful lives (and others) that have been devastated and destroyed by the phony Russia Collusion Witch Hunt? They journeyed down to Washington, D.C., with stars in their eyes and wanting to help our nation...They went back home in tatters!
Why?
Why?
Why?
Do you believe that Politico is aligned with the New York Times and the Washington Post and anyone else than Fox News tells us the truth, nothing but the truth I swear to Trump?
Mike Warren, a senior writer for the conservative Weekly Standard wrote on Twitter. “And we all heard the official say it.”
Do you believe that Politico is aligned with the New York Times and the Washington Post and anyone else than Fox News tells us the truth, nothing but the truth I swear to Trump?
I believe that Politico, NY Times, and Washington Post are aligned on their positions, just as Fox News, WSJ, and others are aligned on their positions.
If you don't believe that partisanship plays a part in this (on both sides) then I seriously cannot help you (nobody can).
But unlike you, I don't simply toss away everything that the liberal media tosses out there, because many times they are right, just as many times the conservative media is right.
I look at the facts. If you looked at the facts, then you wouldn't be CUTTING AND PASTING LIKE AN IDIOT. Because, quite frankly Roger, if all you can do is CUT AND PASTE then you are every bit as stupid as many people her claim.
In this particular case, Rog... the facts simply do not bear out that there was anyone in the Trump administration that stated the June 12th summit would be "impossible" as the Times stated.
Period. End of story.
What you are doing Roger is "parroting" the argument that the Times was quoting an actual source.... when in fact, the person they claim made the statement never did.
So again, either they are talking about a "different source" or they blatantly lied about what this source stated.
This whole thing just reinforces my belief that we should never, ever, under any circumstance ever believe any story that the media tosses out there based on an "anonymous source" because they cannot be trusted to accurately report what that "source" is telling them.
******* Please Read the Following****
JANE Said "For a long time now the USA position has been to hang tough with N. Korea. I would gladly welcome that paying off finally."
Note what she is saying, IF things go well in the Noko Talks we are to thank The Lost Years cool azz pres.
The MSM Fake News has so little credibility not because they are attacking the President for partisan reasons because they are not attacking the President for partisan reasons.
It is because the President has been claiming that the Fake News is actually Fake News. He has been repeating the false statements and they become part of the political dialogue take on the appearance of the truth in the minds of people. He has the bully pulpit and when the Washington Post and the New York Times true reporters that expose his lies, he again spews doubts and even intelligent people are drawn to his camp. Dictators have been using this for a millennium.
This is the Coldheartedtruth that you have lost any contact with reality.
This whole thing just reinforces my belief that we should never, ever, under any circumstance ever believe any story that the media tosses out there based on an "anonymous source" because they cannot be trusted to accurately report what that "source" is telling them.
The Deep State conspiracy viruses has infected your brain incurably.
I have to make a correction in my grammar.
It is because the President has been claiming that the Fake News is actually Fake News. He has been repeating the false statements and they become part of the political dialogue, and take on the appearance of the truth in the minds of most people, you include. He has the bully pulpit and when the Washington Post and the New York Times true reporters that expose his lies, he again spews doubts and even intelligent people are drawn to his camp. Dictators have been using this for a millennium.
Actually Roger, the President has nothing to do with this.
People (such as myself) have been critical of the media long before Trump has been President. The fact that someone in his position is willing to fight back and call them out on things has escalated the general feeling regarding the dishonestly of the media. But this has been going on for a very long time, the President is just a recent inclusion into the fight.
Your problem is that things are personal for you. If the President says something, you knee jerk believe it to be false, or at least you allow yourself to discount whatever it is that is said because it's Trump.
Same holds true for you when you read something in FOX, WSJ, or Brietbart. You simply allow yourself to discount as wrong, or you will go read Eugene Robinson, or Paul Krugman to justify your self. If anyone on the left side of the media tells you there is something wrong you believe.
Me... I research the facts on my own.
For me, nothing is "personal". I have neither a great admiration or a great hatred for the President. I believe he does some things very well, but I believe he does other things very poorly. I certainly believe he has the potential to be one of the most substantial Presidents of our lifetime. If people (like yourself) were willing to cut him an ounce of slack, you might see that he really does want to improve things, even if you don't agree with some of those changes are improvements. He's just a guy trying to do what he thinks is right, or more importantly, he wants to do what the people who elected him asked him to do.
You're very wrong about one thing. I do read what others write about their beliefs. But your belief that I am incapable of coming to my opinions and beliefs is incorrect. My beliefs are mine based upon over fifty years of interest in history and politics. I have read dozens of books on history and politics especially on Presidents.
He is a guy who puts his own self interests above everything else. The tweet Storms that are almost always in defense of Donald Trump's supporters, not the country at large.
His impulsive behavior is a dangerous trait for the United States. Our allies are all deeply concerned about what he will do as his temper directs his behavior. His base is no more than 40% of Americans.
But the bottom line Scott is that he is a liar. Our President should be credible. He is not.
I see Trump the failure go another American back.
Did it cost $150 Billion?
"It is because the President has been claiming that the Fake News is actually Fake News." Roger
Huh?
"It is because the President has been claiming that the Fake News is actually Fake News." Roger
Huh?
Again Rog let me know when he wins lie of the year
You're a hack
Lol Cali, well done.
Have a faithful remembrance of fallen US Troops.
The person who provided the quote denied it because if he admitted to being the source, would he out of the job and be escorted by the secret service agents.
They release audio of the gaggle and he clearly did not say it.
Opps!!
Have a faithful remembrance of fallen US Troops.
Airdamnborne!!!
Roger obviously believes the New York Times over both the transcript and his ears.
He will be getting his ears and eyes examined shortly to fix that.
And maybe change doctors if necessary.
Too bad he doesn't have to rely on Obamacare.
I do read what others write about their beliefs. But your belief that I am incapable of coming to my opinions and beliefs is incorrect. My beliefs are mine based upon over fifty years of interest in history and politics
If that was true, Rog...
You would never have to "cut and paste" anything. You could articulate your feelings in your own manner, using your own facts and research.
Unfortunately, your idea of research is to read the opinion pages of the Times and WaPo and call it a good day of research.
Which is why your "responses" are always just to cut and paste someone elses opinion.
TRANSCRIPT:
“There’s a certain amount of actual dialogue that needs to take place at the working level with your counterparts to ensure that the agenda is clear in the minds of those two leaders when they sit down to actually meet and talk and negotiate, and hopefully make a deal. And June 12 is in 10 minutes, and it's going to be – you know,” the official said, according to a White House transcript. “But the President has said that he has – someday, that he looks forward to meeting with Kim.”
The NYT interpreted this as the source saying the June 12 date would be impossible, BUT the NYT did NOT put the word impossible in quotes, as even Trump correctly demonstrated.
Thus, the NYT did not say the source said it would be "impossible."
The source said that June 12 would be too soon, like saying "in ten minutes." But, the source indicated that the President could hope that the summit would take place later -- "someday."
And those were actual quotes.
Grow up.
And contrary to what Trump said, the source was a real person: Matthew Pottinger, the NSC Senior Director for Asian Affairs.
It was he who made the statement transcribed in the post above.
That would have been difficult for him to do if he did not exist. ;-)
You're entirely wrong on my opinion. You can't provide anything to the contrary.
You're very wrong about every thing. I do read what others write about their beliefs. But your belief that I am incapable of coming to my opinions and beliefs is incorrect. My beliefs are mine based upon over fifty years of interest in history and politics. I have read dozens of books on history and politics especially on Presidents.
He is a guy who puts his own self interests above everything else. The tweet Storms that are almost always in defense of Donald Trump's supporters, not the country at large.
His impulsive behavior is a dangerous trait for the United States. Our allies are all deeply concerned about what he will do as his temper directs his behavior. His base is no more than 40% of Americans. Because enough people aren't under delusional beliefs.
But the bottom line Scott is that he is a liar. Our President should be credible. He is not.
"There’s a certain amount of actual dialogue that needs to take place at the working level with your counterparts to ensure that the agenda is clear in the minds of those two leaders when they sit down to actually meet and talk and negotiate, and hopefully make a deal. And June 12 is in 10 minutes, and it's going to be – you know,” the official said, according to a White House transcript. “But the President has said that he has – someday, that he looks forward to meeting with Kim.”
Nowhere does it say it would be impossible
When Trump says no one in White House said this he is also correct, this source obviously is not this official since he did not say that, nor is it apparently any other official.
Fake News
The "pastor" is obviously lying and weaseling again.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
"In this particular case, Rog... the facts simply do not bear out that there was anyone in the Trump administration that stated the June 12th summit would be "impossible" as the Times stated.
Period. End of story."
Bingo.
Here is the exact quote from the NYT in the 10th paragraph of the article
“a senior White House official told reporters that even if the meeting were reinstated, holding it on June 12 would be impossible, given the lack of time and the amount of planning needed.”
CLEARLY FAKE NEWS and it's revealing how people try to weasel it into something it is not. THE NEW YORK TIMES SAID IMPOSSIBLE, NOT ANY WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL.
TRUMP WAS RIGHT
That's right. The NYT did not put the word in quotes. But it correctly interpreted the sense of what the source said, as numerous who heard it agreed.
Thanks for confirming what I said.
Rat is right. Never in our lives have we seen such an outstanding example of invincible ignorance as Roger Amick.
He and WP must be in competition.
Half-witted pricks aren't worth the time to refute, which is why I don't contribute here any more.
LOL
"James said...Thanks for confirming what I said."
Actually you confirmed what I said. You lie once again.
The official did NOT say impossible. He said "And June 12 is in 10 minutes, and it's going to be – you know,”
You can infer a lot of things into that - tough? complicated? a challenge?, and even impossible. BUT HE DID NOT SAY IMPOSSIBLE. THAT IS WHAT THE NEW YORK TIMES SAID HE SAID.
THANKS FOR CONFIRMING YOU ARE A LYING POS, "pastor"
Half-witted pricks aren't worth the time to refute, which is why I don't contribute here any more
The pastor is example number one
Kim WANTS Trump to rush in unprepared.
"Ten minutes" is not much time.
I don't think it was the pastor who WP had in mind.
Trump is doing very well in his negotiations, I am sure he does not need your advice,
And what a pompous prick you are, "pastor"
"I don't think it was the pastor who WP had in mind."
That would require intellectual honesty.
President Donald J. Trump welcomed Joshua Holt home to the United States on Saturday night, meeting with the released hostage at the White House after he was let free from Venezuela."
So much Winning Bigly.
James and HB, why are you openly Cheering for NoKo?
Oh, it's quite clear who WP had in mind:
COMMONSENSE said...
Rat is right. Never in our lives have we seen such an outstanding example of invincible ignorance as Roger Amick.
He and WP must be in competition.
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WP SAID:
Half-witted pricks aren't worth the time to refute, which is why I don't contribute here any more.
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lol The honor is all yours, Commensa-mensa.
I see WP did a drive by butt-hurt.
He got off a very good zinger. Hurt your butt?
Jane IF the Talks Fail is that too because of Obama?
****** Please Read the Following****
JANE Said "For a long time now the USA position has been to hang tough with N. Korea. I would gladly welcome that paying off finally."
Note what she is saying, IF things go well in the Noko Talks we are to thank The Lost Years cool azz pres.
This is what the NYT actually said:
“a senior White House official told reporters that even if the meeting were reinstated, holding it on June 12 would be impossible, given the lack of time and the amount of planning needed.”
The senior White House official never said that and he never said anything close to that.
The NYT lied, and it was a deliberate lie.
Actually, this is sad. Wp was always one of the most intelligent and civil commentators here.
Most of you make this blog such a sewer that it is difficult for anyone who has decent standards to put up with it.
It tries even my Christian character and charity.
James what would you know about decent standards?
Commensa, give it up. Numerous people heard what he said and it certainly sounded to all of them that he was saying there was simply not enough time adquately to prepare for a summit.
James what would you know about decent standards?
I know that Wp never called me a half-witted p***k.
Lesli Stahl's interview on 60 Minutes as President elect.
Stahl was the first television journalist to sit down with Mr. Trump for an interview following his election victory. Their wide-ranging on-camera interview did not delve into Mr. Trump's attitude toward the press, but Stahl said on Monday night that in a candid, off-camera meeting earlier that year, she pressed him to explain his barrage of insults aimed at journalists, and he gave her a clear explanation:
"I said, 'You know, that is getting tired. Why are you doing this? You're doing it over and over. It's boring and it's time to end that,'" Stahl said on stage alongside "PBS Newshour anchor Judy.
Trump defends Sinclair stations amid outcry over scripted newscasts
"He said, 'You know why I do it? I do it to discredit you all and demean you all so when you write negative stories about me, no one will believe you.' He said that," Stahl told the audience, adding, "So, put that in your head for a minute."
Jane man-crush'n on WP.
Who knew.
Hb😣
President Donald J. Trump welcomed Joshua Holt home to the United States on Saturday night, meeting with the released hostage at the White House after he was let free from Venezuela."
Venezuela a shithole that prez obimbo loved and praised.
Scott put this in your head for a minute my friend.
He said "You know why I do it? I do it to discredit you all and demean you all so then you write negative stories about me, no one will believe you.' He said that," Stahl told the audience, adding, "So, put that in your head for a minute."
He got into your head since his election victory. Unless you believe that she made this up out of hatred for Trump.
Then I'm like wp getting tired your instance that like you told the on Facebook "Don't bother me with Fake News."
WP punked some of you, IF anyone belives WP just happened to stroll by at the very time his moniker was mentioned.
She released the video and or audio to back up her account.
Don’t Stahl ,HB.
Obviously the President is lying again.
President Donald Trump is blaming Democrats for his administration's controversial new policy of taking children away from parents caught unlawfully crossing into the United States with them on the southern border, a practice the White House says is a deterrent to illegal immigration.
The president's criticism of the "horrible" policy comes less than a month after U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced a "zero tolerance" approach to illegal border crossings. "If you are smuggling a child then we will prosecute you, and that child will be separated from you as required by law," he warned.
Kput'z shut up so you won't make a bigger fool of yourself.
Just run the Stahl tape. Provide the link to her recording of Trump. That is, oh hell, unless you don't have it.
You have the audio, Right??
Speaker is on waiting for the link.
Come on Ole Rog.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Then I'm like wp getting tired your instance that like you told the on Facebook "Don't bother me with Fake News."
Don't worry, I'll send this to the New York Times so they can decide what you are saying. Maybe some drunk hanging on a lamppost can do that work for them... or maybe they can just make something up.
Looks like the pastor has finally realized his lies are not getting him anywhere, any sane person here can see he is lying.
Except maybe not the idol he worships, Barack Obama.
And he probably does it for him.
CH. The meeting happened.
"It is not clear whether the president was simply unaware of the actions of his own senior staff or if he knowingly ignored the truth. The source of that sentence was a White House official who held a briefing on Thursday afternoon in the White House briefing room that was attended by about 50 reporters, with about 200 or so more on a conference call." Trump Falsely Says Times Made Up Source in Report on Korea Summit Meeting https://nyti.ms/2xgdl0V
Multiple sources including conservative media members said the statement was made. His denial that you have hung your hat on is not proof that the statement was not made. The President was unaware of the meeting when he tweeted the incorrect accusations.
Roll audio of Stahl ,HB cue tape and link to audio in 5, 4 ,3 2 , 1 ... never.
Stahl'ed.
Insanity on steroids.
Check out Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump): https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?s=09
Trump may have a success with his negotiations with North Korea.
They probably won't completely absolutely denuclearize but they may agree to intrusive monitoring to verify that they are not building nuclear weapons.
The almost impossible reuniting the two Koreas would be Noble Prize winning effort.
5 4 3 2 1 liftoff https://youtu.be/4Ah_WVPLf2g
Speaking of copy and paste.
This is a non attributed copy and paste.
Democrats are having all sorts of issues with "semantics"
Pollster to Dem Candidates: Focus on Mueller Indictments
A new survey by Navigator Research, a group of top Democratic strategists and public opinion experts, finds that while 97 percent of Americans have heard about the Mueller probe, nearly 60 percent don't believe it has uncovered any crimes.
The ongoing investigation has so far resulted in two dozen indictments, including that of former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, and a couple of campaign associates have pleaded guilty to lying to federal investigators. But the findings of the Navigator survey indicate that while most Americans say the investigation should continue, they don't think it has produced much so far.
"There is a real information and education challenge for progressives to make sure more people learn that there is a 'there' there," says Democratic strategist Jesse Ferguson. "Does it mean it's going to be the focus of an entire ad campaign? Probably not. But there are real arguments that are impactful to voters and ways we can win this argument if we engage."
There are two reality problems with this approach.
No link was provided.
Lynn Bernard Amick was born to Charles E. and Jennie B. (Williams) Amick on October 17, 1910, in his parents’ sod house west of Springview, NE. He had two brothers: Ivan B. Amick, who is now deceased, and Carroll E. Amick, who currently lives in Rapid City. He also had one sister, Rita E. (Amick) Stroschine, who lives in Winner, SD. In 1913, Lynn’s family moved 10 miles south of Colome, SD. Lynn went to Kansas Flats Country School for grades 1-8. During the drought and dust storms of the early 1930’s, Lynn decided to truck his horses and wagon to Hartley, Iowa. Here he was employed by farmers. He later became a mechanic in Ocheyedan, IA. He married Blanche E. Petersen, on January 24, 1939, in Spencer, Iowa. They had one child together, Lynne Dee (Amick) Havens, who was 3 years old at the time of her father’s death. His sister, Rita, remembers Lynn as a kind and loving person who cared very much for his wife and daughter and all of his family.
On November 11, 1943, Lynn was drafted into the Army, training at Camp Fannin in Texas. He was part of Company E, 409th Infantry. He was shipped overseas from New York, October 1, 1944, to somewhere in France. His last letter was written to his parents on November 15, the day before he died. He told of dealing with rain and snow, living in tents with candles for light, sleeping in clothes except boots and leggings, and drying socks for the next day.
On November 16, 1944, in Southern France, Army Private Lynn B. Amick was killed in battle. We do not know where Private Amick was originally buried, but we do know that his body was moved to the U.S. Military Cemetery in Epinal, France. Current survivors of his family are Lynne Dee Havens, daughter, Glenwood Springs, CO; Carroll E. Amick, brother; and Rita Stroschine, sister.
Jeanne Pochop and Gaye Hambek, nieces of Private Amick, traveled to Europe where they spent a month in September of 1995. At the time, Pvt. Amick’s great niece, Pam (Hambek) Anderson and her family were living in Germany where her husband was stationed. Private Amick’s family had always wanted to visit his final resting place. Although his immediate family was not able to fulfill this dream, 51 years later, his nieces had the opportunity to travel to his gravesite. They placed a red rose on his cross as requested by his sister, Rita. Later Hambek wrote a speech about Private Amick and their trip to Epinal, France, to see his place of burial. An excerpt from her speech reads:
As we parked, we looked out over the 5255 white marble crosses so exactly spaced on a carpet of green, that no matter which way you viewed they were standing at attention in a straight line. The grounds were immaculately groomed and maintained. We were all in absolute awe, and none of us were able to speak at first as we were overcome with emotion.
It’s hard to explain our feelings as we each looked upon this white marble cross bearing the name of our family’s dear loved one – now so long ago taken from us. I felt that I could almost see his face -- in a transparent kind of way -- and I felt that he was at peace in this beautiful setting surrounded by all the others -- so far away from home also. Our loss was so long ago, but we had successfully gapped those 50 some odd years, and were now able to return home having accomplished our number 1 goal. Such wonderful peace and tranquility reigns here – and we left knowing that our loved ones are exceptionally well cared for.
His friends, family, and his country respected Private Lynn Bernard Amick, and the men in his Company looked up to him. I also respect Private Lynn B. Amick for fighting for our country and the freedom of others.
The ongoing investigation has so far resulted in two dozen indictments, including that of former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, and a couple of campaign associates have pleaded guilty to lying to federal investigators.
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Process crimes. No indictments for collusion. Zip. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
"It's never easy to lose a loved one and President Reagan was given the difficult task of trying to offer words of comfort to the families. But during the eulogy, President Reagan gave a special Memorial Day prayer that resonated with the entire crowd and became a lasting legacy."
https://www.godtube.com/watch/?v=1J22M1NU
fixed it for you dumb dumb
No indictments for collusion. Zip. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
all sorts of issues with "semantics"
Like our esteemed host and his minions now believing truth is relative.....Yep, they are all brainwashed.....!!!!!
Why does donnie act guilty and a showman for the weak minded???? Just ask rudy......to convince the sycophants that mueller is a fraud....amazing you all buy it....very sad...Say it enough times and the truth becomes relative...the republican way!!!!
Rudy Giuliani Admits White House Is Trying To Discredit Russia Investigation
HuffPost Igor Bobic,HuffPost 17 hours ago
President Donald Trump’s lawyer flatly admitted that the White House is waging a fierce information campaign against special counsel Robert Mueller and his investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.
The aim: to delegitimize the probe in the eyes of voters and lawmakers in Congress.
Rudy Giuliani, asked about the near-daily attacks on the probe, said on CNN’s “State of the Union” Sunday, “They are giving us the material. I couldn’t do it if I didn’t have the material. ... It is for public opinion.”
“Because eventually, the decision here is going to be: impeach, [or] not impeach,” he continued. “Members of Congress, Democrats and Republicans, are going to be informed a lot by their constituents. So our jury ... is the American people. And the American people ... Republicans largely, independents pretty substantially, and even Democrats now question the legitimacy of it.”
No indictments for collusion @YET@ . Zip. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
Parenthesis failure..... oops LOL
There will be none ever. Only a report.
Only a report.
There will be none ever. Only a report.
And that is better how?????? LOL
Rog, you Stahled, again. Your youtube link goes to Stahl being interviewed. Not her audio video of Pres. Elect Trump saying what you said he did.
Epic fail.
Why Trump was elected and why nobody outside the Washington liberal media establishment misses Obama.
‘Kick Me’ No More
But there is another, less analyzed element to the disruptive persona, and it is the very antithesis of what so excited the American Left about Barack Obama and his administration.
Recall a lifetime ago (actually it was 2008), when a certified dove won the presidency in a landslide. One of his first official acts was to undertake a trip to a number of Muslim countries, wherein apologies were offered for America’s “imperialist” past. Assurances were also made: The cowboy Bush and his warmongering neocons were gone. Mr. Obama would now inform the world that America had learned its lesson. The U.S. would no longer manifest its arrogance on the world stage. We would henceforth strive to have the world like us — especially our charismatic but unthreatening young president, who was counterintuitive himself, seeming to act on the premise that if the United States was ostentatiously embarrassed about its dominance and power, we would be better liked. And we were better liked, but much more endangered and much less intimidating.
American withdrawal from world hot spots followed. Where we did show up, we made sure to provide the enemy with the date and time of our engagement. Where we did take action, only tentative commitment followed. Who can forget Secretary of State John Kerry promising a “unbelievably small, limited kind of [bombing] effect” against Bashar al Assad’s murderous regime, or a famously failed “red line” in that same country; or the description of deserter Bowe Bergdahl as having served with “honor and distinction”; or freezing defensive missiles in Poland to placate Vladimir Putin; or our feckless response to Russian aggression in Ukraine and Crimea; or the specter of funding the Iranian ballistic-missile program and the mullahs’ terror activities throughout the Middle East?
Alas, too many voters within flyover America saw all this as a step too far — too much weakness — too many vacuums — too many “kick me” signs displayed for consumption by America’s bullies. With apologies to Austin Powers, American had lost, indeed given away, its “mojo.”
And then one day the unlikeliest of political leaders appeared. Many voters (including some who ended up voting for him) saw Mr. Trump as unprepared to tackle the world’s most intractable problems. Another subset of supporters maintained serious concerns about “policy by tweet” and the man’s propensity to engage in sideshow fights with antagonistic politicians, reporters, and celebrities.
But there was one aspect to the Trump phenomena that all of his supporters firmly believed: that the “kick me” sign that had hung around America’s neck for eight years would be gone. Good riddance.
Why Trump was elected and why nobody outside the Washington liberal
Because he won the electoral college vote......and your point is?????? What does any media have to do with the count?????
Good Morning all you Trump Haters.
Why Trump was elected and why nobody outside the Washington liberal media establishment misses Obama. " CS
Exactly, erased.
"that the “kick me” sign that had hung around America’s neck for eight years would be gone. Good riddance."
Bingo.
A few examples of trump bullshitting the country and you all accept...
Pants on Fire: "I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering" as the World Trade Center collapsed.
If thousands of people were celebrating the attacks on American soil, many people besides Trump would remember it. And in the 21st century, there would be video or visual evidence. Even as recently as this month, Trump has continued to say he’s right, pushing evidence that does not actually support his claim.
"I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering" as the World Trade Center collapsed.
In a speech. – Saturday, November 21, 2015
False: "I was totally against the war in Iraq, saying for many years that it would destabilize the Middle East."
If Trump saw regional destabilization on the horizon, he kept it under wraps. The record shows at best some early reservations that evolved into opposition about a year after the war began. When radio host Howard Stern asked Trump if he supported the invasion about six months before the war began Trump said, "Yeah, I guess so."
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Donald Trump
Republican presidential candidate
"I was totally against the war in Iraq, saying for many years that it would destabilize the Middle East."
w – Wednesday, April 27, 2016
False: There is "no system to vet" refugees from the Middle East.
There are concerns about information gaps, but a system does exist and has existed since 1980. It involves multiple federal intelligence and security agencies, as well as the United Nations. Refugee vetting typically takes one to two years and includes numerous rounds of security checks.
There is "no system to vet" refugees from the Middle East.
in a speech on terrorism and immigration – Monday, June 13, 2016
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Pants on Fire: The unemployment rate may be as high as "42 percent."
Getting a percentage that high requires believing that being a full-time student, a senior citizen, a stay-at-home parent, a job-training participant, or having a disability is no excuse for not holding down a full-time job. The highest alternative unemployment-rate measure we could come up with that had any credibility was 16.4 percent.
The unemployment rate may be as high as "42 percent."
in a press conference – Monday, September 28, 2015
False: "We're the highest taxed nation in the world."
We fact-checked this claim three times, and it’s still wrong. Data from 2014, the most recent year available, shows that the United States wasn’t the most highly taxed by the typical metrics and actually places near the bottom or around the middle of the pack.
You do realize Politifact is not considered credible any longer?
lol
Trump Reignites Uproar on Immigration
“President Trump’s attempt to blame Democrats for separating migrant families at the border is renewing a political uproar over immigration, an issue that has challenged Trump throughout his presidency and threatens to grow more heated as he imposes more restrictions to stem the flow of illegal immigration,” the Washington Post reports.
“In one of several misleading tweets during the holiday weekend, Trump pushed Democrats to change a ‘horrible law’ that the president said mandated separating children from parents who enter the country illegally. But there is no law specifically requiring the government to take such action, and it’s also the policies of his own administration that have caused the family separation that advocacy groups and Democrats say is a crisis.”
Wp is right to leave this blog. The level of discourse here is so abysmal it is not worth even replying to.
Roger has some statements above that demonstrate that he is capable of an objectivity and fairness that some of you are totally incapable of.
You do realize Politifact is not considered credible any longer?
And you are as credible as a gnat....Show me where the trump quotes are incorrect, you can't. Your comment is as irrelevant as you are..... Idiot Mc Peabrain can't get anything correct can you????
James said...
Wp is right to leave this blog
Guess you know something I don't. He spoke of posting less frequently but now you say he has left. Do you work for the NYT or did I miss something or did he tell you something in private?
Anyways the large majority of us wish you would actually leave and take your regular lies with you.
Don't let the door hit you in the face.
ROFLMFAO !!!
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
"James said...
Roger has some statements above that demonstrate that he is capable of an objectivity and fairness that some of you are totally incapable of"
"Then I'm like wp getting tired your instance that like you told the on Facebook "Don't bother me with Fake News."
Is this one of those statements you refer too?
The law and the policy pre-dates the Trump administration.
It was implemented under Barack Obama.
“In one of several misleading tweets during the holiday weekend, Trump pushed Democrats to change a ‘horrible law’ that the president said mandated separating children from parents who enter the country illegally. But there is no law specifically requiring the government to take such action, and it’s also the policies of his own administration that have caused the family separation that advocacy groups and Democrats say is a crisis.”
Protesting Obama over separating children from parents.
Opps
Linda Sarsour ✔ @lsarsour
I love how GOP folks forgot how we protested Obama over immigration, undocumented youth did sit ins, we got arrested in civil disobedience many times. We didn’t just wake up because of Trump. This separation of children and parents at the border is cruel. Focus on that.
This separation of children and parents at the border is cruel. Focus on that.
cruel indeed. what kind of a piece of shit parent would ever put their own child in such a disastrous situation? parents who do this are evil. so yes, let's focus on them.
Media Double Down After New York Times Gets Busted Peddling Fake News
There may have been a real White House briefing with real White House officials, but The New York Times couldn't be trusted to accurately summarize what the White House official said. And it wasn't on a minor point.
http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/28/media-double-down-after-new-york-times-gets-busted-peddling-fake-news/#.Wwv0IM6s8CY.twitter
Excellent article/recap of what happened yesterday.
Mollie Hemingway has been all over it. I doubt she'll be back in Kurtz's show after she gave him a big butt hurt for trying to minimize what the NYT did.
Liberal Hate.
cruel indeed. what kind of a piece of shit parent would ever put their own child in such a disastrous situation? parents who do this are evil. so yes, let's focus on them."RRB
Yet, the left her blamed the violence at the Israeli border on Pres. Trump doing what 3 prior Pres lied about doing. Moving our Embassy. The left blamed the Israeli's.
Yet, it was Hamas that paid asshole to take thier kids to the border.
CNN contributor April Ryan is being criticized for alerting her 336,000 Twitter followers to a story in The Root that asks if the Trump administration is involved in child sex-trafficking.
Among those condemning Ryan for the tweet is first lady Melania Trump’s spokeswoman.
“If you’re a journalist w many followers & a @CNNPolitics contributor...is it ok to retweet any headline you want, regardless of if it’s true?” Stephanie Grisham asked on Twitter. “Remember: 'The core purpose of a journalist is to research, document, write, & present the news in an honest, ethical, & unbiased way.'”
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/05/27/cnns-april-ryan-slammed-for-tweeting-article-about-trump-running-child-trafficking-ring.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true
i'm sure the alky fell for this hook, line, and sinker.
This is why Trump got elected.
“I truly believe North Korea has brilliant potential and will be a great economic and financial nation one day. Kim Jong Un agrees with me on this. It will happen!”
— President Trump, on Twitter.
Trump may as well have gone ahead and added, "And the Russian economy, though it ranks only about tweleth in the world today, is set to come roaring back, and when that ha[pens, I have positioned myself to profit BIGLY FROM IT.
--Make me great again, Donald "me first" Trump
“If you’re a journalist w many followers & a @CNNPolitics contributor...is it ok to retweet any headline you want, regardless of if it’s true?” Stephanie Grisham asked on Twitter. “Remember: 'The core purpose of a journalist is to research, document, write, & present the news in an honest, ethical, & unbiased way.'”
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A very good question.
Another one is:
If you're the President of the United States, is it ok to tell any lie you want to tell, no matter how outrageous, as you seek to demonize the opposition and discredit even the government of which you are a part?
Oh Jane. Stop making shit up.
Remember you attempt to hold yourself above us .
Jane, seriously, have you ever owned a business?
Jane, seriously, have you ever owned a business?
KD....seriously , you ever have a real job????? LOLOLOL According to you, the trump economy even has even created a job for an unqualified idiot like you.....
The truthers here have a real problem. They despise those people who have a different opinion on their President. If they had their way CH would delete every comment that is negative about Trump.
They wouldn't have a problem if anyone who won't support the President is thrown into a concentration camp and either starved to death or executed.
They would be no different than the Germans who stood with Hitler.
Never heard of it. If I had seen that I would have never believed that.
The reason why the racist rodent bastard supports Trump because he ignores the fact that he lies about everything.
bastard supports Trump because he ignores facts
To trumpettes, truth is a relative term.....it all depends how many times donnie has said it!!! Sad
Hi Dennis. Stay pissed off.
KD....seriously , you ever have a real job????? "
Yes
They despise those people who have a different opinion"
Nope
FIXED IT FOR YOU JIMMY
If you're the "pastor", is it ok to tell any lie you want to tell or cut'n'paste lies, no matter how outrageous, as you seek to demonize the opposition and discredit the government of your country?
The very definition of "pastor" jim, so he must feel it is OK
ROFLMFAO !!!
Todays New York Times Bullshit story:
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/05/28/world/europe/uk-austerity-poverty.html
wonderfully debunked if you read down this twitter commentary:
https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon
Shameful what this paper has become as its obedient followers jump off the cliff with it.
"They wouldn't have a problem if anyone who won't support the President is thrown into a concentration camp and either starved to death or executed."
You and commie are the only ones to wish death on anyone here, drunkard.
"shut the f****** you stupid b**** or go to hell the sooner the better the world will be better off without you.
https://coldheartedtruthblog.blogspot.com/2017/08/violence-in-virginia.html?m=1
Evil drunk.
Trump can use Obama's re-education camps you know how fiscally efficient he is. (/sarcasm)
“I have been one that have said several times, I don’t consider the president a role model for my kids. I don’t want my kids to speak the way that he speaks, or how he makes some of the choices… I don’t speak that way, I don’t tweet that way, I don’t interact with people that way. I don’t treat my staff the same way that he treats his staff, but that is who the American people selected and that’s who we are going to be able to work with.”
— Sen. James Lankford (R-OK), in an interview on MSNBC.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile and has no business being around kids.
Anonymous Teresa Dulyea-Parker said...
GO AWAY LORETTA WITH YOUR JUVENILE AND SOPHOMORIC BEHAVIOR....GROW UP OLD LADY!!!! Maybe you can post a card from your marine and we can find your real name out......LOL!!!!!!!
You and commie are the only ones to wish death on anyone here,
LIAR!!!!!!
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