Monday, June 18, 2018

So how can you "really" stop separating parents and kids at the border...

So first of all. Yes, it's absolutely true that the same laws are in place today than have been in place in the past. There is a law (that Democrats in congress are refusing to change) called the Flores Consent Decree, that legally allows the Government to only hold children for 20 days.

What happens is that the adults come into the country, get caught at the border, and then apply for asylum (in order to stay). Because the applications take longer than 20 days to process, that requires that the Government do one of two thing:
  1. Simply let everyone go. Effectively allowing otherwise illegal aliens to enter the country, with pretty much no means to find them again.
  2. Put the kids into foster or other types of care while the parents are held pending their applications.
Obviously the past Administration(s) have taken the approach that you simply let everyone go free in the country. Obviously this Administration is not buckling in to pressures to willingly let more illegals enter the country, so the kids end up being held in a different location than their parents, thus "separating them". 

Let's be clear. Kids are not being separated indefinitely. If the application for asylum is granted, then the families are reunited. If not, then the families are reunited when they are sent back to where they came from. 

So the solution appears obvious. Change the Flores Consent law and increase the budget for more family shelters at the border. 

The solution is not what the Democrats are advocating: that you just let them all go free into the United States simply because they "applied" for asylum.  


26 comments:

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You are lying.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The insane President without consulting with the Air Force.

President Donald Trump announced Monday that he has ordered the creation of a new military branch, adding the "Space Force" to the Army, Navy, Marine, Air Force, and Coast Guard.

"It is not enough to merely have an American presence in space, we must have American dominance in space. Very importantly I'm hereby directing the Department of Defense and Pentagon to immediately begin the process necessary to establish a space force as the sixth branch of the armed forces, that is a big statement," Trump said at a meeting of the National Space Council on Monday. "We are going to have the Air Force and we are going to have the space force, separate but equal, it is going to be something."

The Air Force declined to immediately comment.

Loretta said...

LOL!!!!

The traitorous war monger isn't smart enough to be able to debate CH, so he changes the subject with a cut and paste spam, LMAO!!!!

No doubt the pedophile will do the same friggin thing, LMAO!!

Anonymous said...




Trump has previously said that he included a Space Force as part of his national space strategy but also said in March that he not really serious about the idea.

The Space Corps – as it's been called – was in the House's version of the 2018 National Defense Authorization Act but later dropped in conference.
.
In a letter last summer to Rep. Mike Turner, R-Ohio, who spearheaded the congressional effort against the Space Corps, Secretary of Defense James Mattis said he was opposed to the idea.

"At a time when we are trying to integrate the department's joint warfighting functions, I do not wish to add a separate service that would likely present a narrower and even parochial approach to space operations," Mattis wrote.

Testifying in March before the House Armed Services Committee, the former deputy assistant secretary of defense for space policy also pushed back on the creation of a separate Space Corps.

"Space is a different kind of domain than air," Doug Loverro told members of Congress during a hearing on space warfighting readiness. "We don't need to move it out of the Air Force in order to go ahead and create the space-smart civilian and military force that we need."


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-directs-creation-space-force-sixth-branch-military/story?id=55978674


it's going absolutely nowhere alky.

so why post it? you run out of gas with the "trump hates children" nonsense of the day?

i see even willie brown's side piece called on the DHS sec to resign. if kamooloo harris is your savior in 2020 you guys are fucked.


Anonymous said...

Why Post it.
1, losing all over this blog as usual
2, attempt to stay away from this smoking hot economy
3, Russia, Russia, Russia is over
4, the "Storm Damage" has shifted Trump's Polls higher

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

In 2014 the Obama administration detained hundreds of families and unaccompanied minors crossing the border, a practice that the federal courts quickly curtailed.

But separating families as a matter of unofficial policy is something new and malicious, a function of President Trump’s obsession with undocumented immigrants. This spring, the administration ordered that everyone caught crossing illegally into the United States be prosecuted. And since children cannot accompany grown-ups to jail, people who had crossed illegally with children had their children taken away. Hundreds upon hundreds of children, of all ages, creating a new industry in mass shelters.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/14/opinion/children-parents-asylum-immigration.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

The Trump administration decided to prosecute every person who enters the people illegally.

By definition is criminal. The policy was designed to change the method of handling illegals and separating the families when the administration made the decision. They are claiming that we are dismantling democracy because we are going to put an additional 3000 or more children in old Wall Mart stores.

The current First Lady ad the wife of George W. Bush think that the Trump administration needs to change the way to e4nforce the law. Remember, you all believe that he can do what ever he wants.

Loretta said...

Plagiarized spam by the traitorous war monger.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I wrote this.

The Trump administration decided to prosecute every person who enters the people illegally.

By definition is criminal. The policy was designed to change the method of handling illegals and separating the families when the administration made the decision. They are claiming that we are dismantling democracy because we are going to put an additional 3000 or more children in old Wall Mart stores.

The current First Lady ad the wife of George W. Bush think that the Trump administration needs to change the way to e4nforce the law. Remember, you all believe that he can do what ever he wants.

Anonymous said...

Lol, you need validation Alky.

Anonymous said...

you all believe that he can do what ever he wants." Alky

Answer: no we don't.

Your straw man is on fire.

C.H. Truth said...

Sorry Rog...

Trump was elected to reverse Obama policies pretty much across the board. Immigration was a key issue in this regards.

If America wanted someone to follow in Obama's footsteps, I guess Hillary would be President instead.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://youtu.be/PoncXfYBAVI

https://www.propublica.org/article/children-separated-from-parents-border-patrol-cbp-trump-immigration-policy

Listen to Children Who’ve Just Been Separated From Their Parents at the Border
ProPublica has obtained audio from inside a U.S. Customs and Border Protection facility, in which children can be heard wailing as an agent jokes, “We have an orchestra here.”

Some clips, in Spanish:

One child cries "I don't want them to stop my father, I don't want them to deport him," while others wail in the background.
A border agent jokes remarks through the screams: "Well, we have an orchestra here, right? ... What we're missing is a conductor."
A consular worker murmurs: "This is her identification number... Keep this number. Don't lose it, you hear? Good."
One child asks: "Are you going to call my aunt so she can come pick me up? And then, so my mom can come as soon as possible?"
Este artículo pronto estará disponible en español.
The desperate sobbing of 10 Central American children, separated from their parents one day last week by immigration authorities at the border, makes for excruciating listening. Many of them sound like they’re crying so hard, they can barely breathe. They scream “Mami” and “Papá” over and over again, as if those are the only words they know.

https://www.propublica.org/article/children-separated-from-parents-border-patrol-cbp-trump-immigration-policy

This is going to be a huge problem with the Lying President.

Anonymous said...

Satisfaction With U.S. Direction Reaches 12-Year High

by Jim Norman
STORY HIGHLIGHTS

Satisfaction rate of 38% is highest since September 2005
Second month in a row above 35%, also for the first time since 2005
Satisfaction rises among Republicans and independents, not among Democrats"


Lol, Depression hits Democrats.

Anonymous said...

Rog believes he's found yet another shoe, so drop it.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

kputz the thief

https://news.gallup.com/poll/235739/satisfaction-direction-reaches-year-high.aspx

Anonymous said...

I gave credit to the author. Are you blind as well as stupid.

Anonymous said...

Read again Rog, without your beer glasses.

Satisfaction With U.S. Direction Reaches 12-Year High

by Jim Norman
STORY HIGHLIGHTS

Satisfaction rate of 38% is highest since September 2005
Second month in a row above 35%, also for the first time since 2005
Satisfaction rises among Republicans and independents, not among Democrats"


Lol, Depression hits Democrats.

Anonymous said...

OMG, we have lost Alky.

I copied your link, guess where it took me Rog. To the Very story I posted.

Did you not read the article, or did you hope this one time I would not fact check you?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Traitorous war Monger.


John McCain
‏Verified account @SenJohnMcCain
12m12 minutes ago

The administration’s current family separation policy is an affront to the decency of the American people, and contrary to principles and values upon which our nation was founded. The administration has the power to rescind this policy. It should do so now.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You did't post the link you idiot.

Anonymous said...

What, Alky just say your sorry.

Anonymous said...

I knew you would again not man up.

Anonymous said...

More Importantly is the Fact that Independents, blacks and Hispanics are shift ing TO President Trump.

This is a leading indicator.
Satisfaction With U.S. Direction Reaches 12-Year High

by Jim Norman
STORY HIGHLIGHTS

Satisfaction rate of 38% is highest since September 2005
Second month in a row above 35%, also for the first time since 2005
Satisfaction rises among Republicans and independents, not among Democrats"


Lol, Depression hits Democrats.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...




Department of Justice
Office of Public Affairs
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Friday, April 6, 2018
Attorney General Announces Zero-Tolerance Policy for Criminal Illegal Entry

Attorney General Jeff Sessions today notified all U.S. Attorney’s Offices along the Southwest Border of a new “zero-tolerance policy” for offenses under 8 U.S.C. § 1325(a), which prohibits both attempted illegal entry and illegal entry into the United States by an alien. The implementation of the Attorney General’s zero-tolerance policy comes as the Department of Homeland Security reported a 203 percent increase in illegal border crossings from March 2017 to March 2018, and a 37 percent increase from February 2018 to March 2018—the largest month-to-month increase since 2011.


“The situation at our Southwest Border is unacceptable. Congress has failed to pass effective legislation that serves the national interest—that closes dangerous loopholes and fully funds a wall along our southern border. As a result, a crisis has erupted at our Southwest Border that necessitates an escalated effort to prosecute those who choose to illegally cross our border,” said Attorney General Jeff Sessions. “To those who wish to challenge the Trump Administration’s commitment to public safety, national security, and the rule of law, I warn you: illegally entering this country will not be rewarded, but will instead be met with the full prosecutorial powers of the Department of Justice. To the Department’s prosecutors, I urge you: promoting and enforcing the rule of law is vital to protecting a nation, its borders, and its citizens. You play a critical part in fulfilling these goals, and I thank you for your continued efforts in seeing to it that our laws—and as a result, our nation—are respected.”

On April 11, 2017, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced a renewed commitment to criminal immigration enforcement. As part of that announcement, the Attorney General issued a memorandum to all federal prosecutors and directed them to prioritize the prosecution of certain criminal immigration offenses.


Today’s zero-tolerance policy further directs each U.S. Attorney’s Office along the Southwest Border (i.e., Southern District of California, District of Arizona, District of New Mexico, Western District of Texas, and the Southern District of Texas) to adopt a policy to prosecute all Department of Homeland Security referrals of section 1325(a) violations, to the extent practicable.


The President could issue an executive order repealing this policy. The thousands of children are not rapists, criminals or drug dealers. The President again lied and blamed the Democrats. hi lies don't bother the Trump Cultists as we have seen in history.

You have attacked Laura Bush

You are wrong. He's wrong. buy you can't or won't see it because of partisan sun glasses.



C.H. Truth said...

Roger

The Attorney General is following the law.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

The fact that you find fault with following the law, is your own problem. This isn't a new law. Nothing has been decreed, other than the previous policy of "NOT FOLLOWING THE LAW" has been abandoned, and replaced by FOLLOWING THE LAW!!!

The parents of these people have three choices.

1) They can choose not to sneak across the border illegally. Problem solved.
2) They can accept deportation back to their legal country, with their kids. Problem solve.


3) They can choose to ask for asylum, knowing full well that this will take months,they will remain detained during the process, and fully understanding that they will be separated from their kids after 20 days.


These parents are RESPONSIBLE for their own actions, Roger!

I understand that liberals don't ever feel that they (or anyone else) are responsible for their own actions, but simply put... they are.

Loretta said...

"Roger AmickJune 18, 2018 at 6:54 PM

Traitorous war Monger.

John McCain
‏Verified account @SenJohnMcCain"

I agree.