we are supposed to treat illegal aliens with more respect than American citizens...
So everyone is up in arms over the fact that children of illegal aliens are being placed into foster care when their parents are otherwise arrested or held for their violations.
What do you suppose happens to an American child when their parents (or remaining parent) ends up breaking the law and going to prison? Yep, you got it. The child get "separated" from their parent(s) and placed into foster care.
Nobody argues that we shouldn't hold Americans accountable for their criminal actions, simply because doing so would place the children in foster homes. Why should we be turning a blind eye to criminal activity for non-Americans?
This is just another "emotional and irrational" argument from the left.
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Republicans WHO HAVE SOME SENSE (UNLIKE CH) Start to Break from Trump
First Read: “The lowest points of Donald Trump’s presidency have tended to occur when a sizable portion of his own party has criticized him for his actions, policies and statements (even when the GOP doesn’t necessarily act on that criticism). Think Trump’s initial travel ban, the furor over Charlottesville, the Comey firing, the pardon of Joe Arpaio and the health care debate of 2017.
“And Trump’s slight bump in his approval rating has coincided with a lack of intense GOP disagreement with Trump. Our June NBC/WSJ poll found the president’s job rating increasing to 44 percent among registered voters due in large part to his better numbers among Republicans and rural voters.
“BUT is that about to change with FELLOW REPUBLICANS AND CONSERVATIVES INCREASINGLY CRITICIZING — in varying degrees — the TRUMP POLICY of SEPARATING MIGRANT CHILDREN from their families at the border?”
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Ch, do encourage the GOP to full throatedly support this.
Please do. Go right ahead.
The reason for these separations is a zero-tolerance policy for their parents, who are accused of illegally crossing our borders.
Laura Bush Traitor
Two responses using cut and paste, because both of them are too stupid to debate CH.
Yawn.
Every damn day.
There you go again just following orders.
Kirstjen Nielsen, the secretary of Homeland Security also said in a statement that the policy didn’t exist.
She said “We do not have a policy of separating families at the border,”
Your perseverance in support of the President may be getting attention.
However, DHS recently announced that within a six week period ending in May, almost 2000 kids were separated from their parents. For humanitarian purposes my ass.
Published DHS guidelines also break down how the separations happen.
Saying quote, “your child or children will be transferred to the US Department of Health and Human Services...where your child will be held in a temporary child shelter or hosted by a foster family.”
Loretta said...
Two responses using cut and paste, because both of them are too stupid to debate CH.
Yawn.
And this is what you think is a response....dayum for a women who allegedly protects women turns her back to the same type of women who escape abuse with their kids.....seperate them like criminals while stick her head firmly up trumps ass and say the v view ew is great!!! The difference is the are beaners who have no rights to live....yeah that's great!!!
Roger -
My post is in response to the nonsense of the left...
Obviously you have no response as to why American children are separated from their parents when the parents break the law and are detained...
and why you feel that illegal aliens deserve better?
And now trump makes up fake news affecting germans......what an idiot!!!!!
Trump Attacks Germany’s Policies
on Immigration
By EILEEN SULLIVAN 48 minutes ago
President Trump falsely claimed crime was up in Germany as a result of migration and warned that the United States must avoid the immigration issues facing
And the slurpers here will continue drinking from the trough.....
Roger -
My post is in response to the nonsense of the left...
Unlike the BS spewing form the WH and POTUS.... the most corrupt administration evah!!!! Aliens should be shot on sight....they have no rights and the babies should have been aborted to avoid this illegal migration...WHICH IS WHAT YOUR SIDE IS ADVOCATING!!!!!!
Funny. Wrong as always
Surely, even lowest of IQ's HB see's his two faceness.
"the babies should have been aborted to avoid this illegal migration...WHICH IS WHAT YOUR SIDE IS ADVOCATING!!!!!!"
The left is for Abortion of US babies.
Yeah, because that is the law. They can’t be held in jail with their parents. Why is that so difficult to understand?
Why is that so difficult to understand?
You are talking Roger, James, and Dennis being led by the nose here...
If we build the wall, families can all be together on the other side of it.
Problem solved.
And i still ask where was the outrage when obama was doing it?
On the NY front, guv cuomo has had cynthia nixon running against him in the dem primary. He now has a dem running as an independent, former Syracuse mayor Miner. Here's hoping she does well. NYC likes cuomo, but the rest of the state cant stand him.
Published DHS guidelines also break down how the separations happen.
Saying quote, “your child or children will be transferred to the US Department of Health and Human Services...where your child will be held in a temporary child shelter or hosted by a foster family.”
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/06/18/trump-administration-denies-border-separation-policy-despite-published-proof/23461645/
AOL, eh alky? i didn't know they were still around.
The Trump Economy is rising.
The left has to change the dices sion away from that at all costs.
I say let's talk about the Obama Radicalized FBI and doj.
THE LIAR-IN-CHIEF LIES AGAIN
Contrary to Trump's assertion, crime has fallen off dramatically in Germany, with the country's internal ministry reporting last month that criminal offenses in Germany totaled 5.76 million in 2017, the lowest number since 1992, leading to the lowest crime rate for the country in more than 30 years.
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Laura Bush, married to the last Republican president before Trump, took the highly unusual step of publishing a Father's Day op-ed in the Washington Post on Sunday, in which she said "this zero-tolerance policy is cruel. It is immoral. And it breaks my heart."
ANOTHER TRUMP-GOP FAIL
Republicans Give Up on Medicare Overhaul
Politico: “Republicans on Capitol Hill are giving up on what might be their last best chance to overhaul Medicare, just as they’re losing their leading champion on the issue, House Speaker Paul Ryan. The quiet surrender on a subject that’s energized GOP fiscal hawks for the better part of a decade comes as new projections show Medicare’s trust fund in its worst shape since the recession, partly because of Republicans’ other chief obsession: their sweeping tax cuts.
“That’s left conservatives unsure how to agitate for a politically unpopular Medicare overhaul — one that President Trump detests — and raises new questions about who will take up the entitlement reform mantle as Ryan heads for the exits.”
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lOOKS LIKE you Repugs are going to have to pry medicare from our cold. dead hands.
But we won't let you.
Laura Bush, married to the last Republican president before Trump, took the highly unusual step of publishing a Father's Day op-ed in the Washington Post on Sunday, in which she said "this zero-tolerance policy is cruel. It is immoral. And it breaks my heart."
huh. for the entire 8 years of your husband's presidency the left tried to destroy your husband, your daughters, and even referred to you as a murderer because of an auto accident you were involved in.
that was cruel, immoral, and heartbreaking.
Trump Doubles Down on Separation Policy
President Trump “doubled down on his controversial policy of separating children from parents when families illegally cross the border, while also calling on Congress to change laws to end it,” The Hill reports.
“In a series of tweets, Trump appeared to justify the strategy by claiming criminals are using children in a Trojan Horse-style operation to cross the U.S. border.”
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Lying hypocrite who talks out of both sides of his mouth.
Yet after being treated so badly (you say), Laura has found something even worse.
good for her.
pederast, it appears to me that you and the alky are advocating that in order to maintain kids staying with their criminal parents that kids be sent to prison with their criminal parents.
i'm ok with that. i mean, why set them up in safe shelters or with vetted foster parents when we can stuff them into a crowded cell with the rest of their family?
so yes, i agree with you and the alky. handcuff the kids to their parents and send them ALL to fucking jail.
why should i care? they don't belong in my country to begin with.
Mexican kids held for months as punishment for border-crossing
LAREDO, Tex. — Last spring, as Central American children flooded into Texas in a way he had never seen in his three-decade career, Border Patrol agent Robert Harris decided to experiment.
His intelligence analysts estimated that 78 percent of the guides smuggling other migrants were Mexicans younger than 18 — teenagers often hired or conscripted by drug cartels that knew they would not be prosecuted if caught — and he wanted to attack this loophole.
“Why don’t we remove these juveniles from the smuggling cycle?” Harris, the outgoing commander of the Laredo sector of U.S. Customs and Border Protection, recalled thinking.
Now, as a result of that decision, young Mexicans are being held for months without charge in shelters across the United States, sometimes without their parents’ knowledge. Since the program began in May, 536 juveniles have been held — 248 of whom have been deported to Mexico after an average stay of 75 days, according to Border Patrol statistics. Mexican authorities say some of these repeat border-crossers have spent as much as six months in U.S. custody while they await an appearance before an immigration judge.
During their detention, they are questioned by U.S. authorities and then transferred to a network of facilities run by the Office of Refugee Resettlement, part of the Department of Health and Human Services, across 15 states. While confined, they undergo psychological evaluations and take English courses. Some are allowed tourist-type activities, such as going to the beach or museums, according to Mexican consular officials in Texas. At least one youth earned a high school general equivalency diploma.
“We haven’t heard of any mistreatment,” said Erasmo R. Martinez, Mexico’s consul in McAllen, Tex.
But the little-known program, called the Juvenile Referral Process, has worried human rights groups and some Mexican officials who fear that it puts the children at risk. They view it as a way for U.S. authorities to gather intelligence about cartels and think it endangers the children who could be targeted as informants when they return to Mexico. Some question the legality of the extended detentions.
“Our concern is that the program’s real intent is to interrogate the kids,” said Maureen Meyer, an expert on Mexico and migrants at the Washington Office on Latin America (WOLA). The kids are “often questioned about the criminal groups they are working for and then subsequently returned to Mexico with no apparent concern about the implications for them.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/mexican-kids-held-for-months-as-punishment-for-border-crossing/2015/03/10/311d319a-b2f2-11e4-bf39-5560f3918d4b_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.1700b2a8073d
In November, Oscar Jaime Rodriguez Mendoza, a 16-year-old from the border town of Reynosa, left for the United States and didn’t come home.
“We didn’t know what had happened to him,” said his mother, Leonor Mendoza, a 37-year-old clothing vendor.
She finally learned that he had been sent to a shelter in California. From there, he was allowed to talk to her by phone every night for 10 minutes. Oscar told his mother that the kids were grouped by risk or behavior — purple, yellow, green — and that some couldn’t leave the facility. Oscar was a purple, he told his mom, with the least restrictions. On one occasion, he got to go ice skating.
“It’s a type of punishment so they won’t cross as much,” his mother said. “For me, sincerely, it’s okay. It will discourage him from doing it again.”
Mexican authorities say they don’t want these minors to be stigmatized or criminalized by U.S. authorities. MendÃvil, of the Foreign Ministry, said that not all repeat border-crossers are cartel-linked smugglers. She cited the case of one child who crossed repeatedly to buy used clothes for his mother to sell in Mexico.
“We’re in favor of what is in the best interest of the minor,” she said. “Many of these kids may have legitimate claim to perhaps be reunited with family in the U.S.We want them to have their day in court and be heard. If they are threatened, if they are victims of trafficking, if they have been in a family crisis situation, they deserve to be heard and protected from whatever is threatening them.”
what a remarkable and extraordinary change of political climate!
Rat the gapping asshole postulated that...
e 8 years of your husband's presidency the left tried to destroy your husband,
And now they are trying to treat babies like christians should.....kill em all, they are just beaners and are invading MY COUNTRY to steal jobs from worthless pieces of shit like KD, who is too lazy to work.....One of your dumbest posts yet, rat hole....you suck as much as loretta.....LOLOLOL
The lying from the bleach blond asshole from the WH once again will be embraced by the weak minded gigantic talking rectum from NY....
Ann Coulter weighed in on the immigration debate on Sunday, saying that many of the images of crying children shown across cable news channels were fabricated and the result of “child actors.”
“I would also say one other thing, these child actors weeping and crying on all the other networks 24/7 right now: do not fall for it, Mr. President. I get very nervous about the president getting his news from TV,” said Coulter on the set of Fox News’ “The Next Revolution.”
“A New Yorker article — the New Yorker is not a conservative publication — they describe how these kids, these kids are being coached. They’re given scripts to read by liberals, according to the New Yorker. Don’t fall for the actor children.”
Sounds just like the same BS as you all said about those kids who were shot at in floriduh......actors;......And you still remain a walking asshole....
The bullshiter in chief again tries to change the story to absolve his fat ass from being responsible for anything....WHATTA DOUCHE!!!!!! Rat the hole applauds until his hands bleed....be proud to be a fake conservative
Trump: 'The United States will not be a migrant camp'
Dylan Stableford 2 hours 24 minutes ago
President Trump speaks to reporters at the White House on Friday. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)
President Trump on Monday again tried to shift blame for his administration’s controversial policy of separating immigrant families at the border to Democrats, while others in his administration threw up a variety of confusing, misleading and sometimes contradictory explanations and defenses.
“Why don’t the Democrats give us the votes to fix the world’s worst immigration laws?” the president tweeted. “Where is the outcry for the killings and crime being caused by gangs and thugs, including MS-13, coming into our country illegally?”
“Children are being used by some of the worst criminals on earth as a means to enter our country,” he continued. “Has anyone been looking at the Crime taking place south of the border. It is historic, with some countries the most dangerous places in the world. Not going to happen in the U.S.”
I think laura bush forgot that those in jspanese i ternment camps were all US citizens.
If you want to immigrate, do it legally.
-President Trump
There is nothing outrageous about that
The people of Germany are turning against their leadership as migration is rocking the already tenuous Berlin coalition. Crime in Germany is way up. Big mistake made all over Europe in allowing millions of people in who have so strongly and violently changed their culture!
German crime rate in 2017 was down 5.1% the lowest since 2002.
"Obviously you have no response as to why American children are separated from their parents when the parents break the law and are detained...
and why you feel that illegal aliens deserve better?"
Still nothing but spam from the drunkard, traitorous war monger and the pedophile.
No surprise there.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
The people of Germany are turning against their leadership as migration is rocking the already tenuous Berlin coalition.
merkle's coalition government is falling apart, alky. crime committed by refugees is WAY up. the germans have had enough, and even italy told the boat people to get lost. they landed in spain so they can rape and murder some spaniards for a refreshing change of pace -
WIESBADEN, Germany (Reuters) - German officials on Thursday said an Iraqi man suspected of raping and killing a 14-year-old girl had likely fled the country and returned to Iraq.
The case has deeply upset Germans and has led to calls from politicians for an overhaul to rules on asylum to make it easier to deport immigrants thought to be violent.
The victim, Susanna Feldman, was Jewish, although police said there was no evidence her religion was a factor in the crime, and the Central Council of Jews in Germany cautioned against attributing any anti-Semitic motive to her attacker.
The suspected involvement of an asylum seeker could add to a backlash against Chancellor Angela Merkel’s decision to open the door to more than a million migrants in 2015.
The teenager, from the city of Mainz near Frankfurt, was reported missing on May 22. She was found dead on Wednesday in a wooded area near train tracks in Wiesbaden on the opposite bank of the Rhine, near a refugee center where the suspected attacker lived, according to police. An autopsy showed she had been the victim of a sexual and violent attack.
Police said they were looking for 20-year-old Ali Bashar, who they believe fled to Erbil, Iraq, with his family days ago. They said they had set up a special call center for tips from the public, and issued releases in Arabic and Turkish. ended up in spain instead.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-crime/iraqi-migrant-suspected-in-rape-and-murder-of-german-girl-idUSKCN1J3273
every single western european country that has accepted these fucking ragheads is ass-deep in fucking problems as a result.
The illegals that force their kids to watch them break US Law should all be charged with child abuse.
Has Jane's Church opened their doors and coffers to take everyone of these children?
CA's Jerry Brown wants them All, right?
Roger, you can't cut n paste yourself out of this.
"Roger -
My post is in response to the nonsense of the left...
Obviously you have no response as to why American children are separated from their parents when the parents break the law and are detained...
and why you feel that illegal aliens deserve better?"
The Dem-Press can't talk about the Trump Economy.
18 Apr 2018
Rob Smith
Formative Content
The United States has the largest economy in the world at $20.4 trillion, according to data from the International Monetary Fund (IMF), which shows the US economy increased from around $19.4 trillion last year."
2 ND quarter US GDP looks like it will be north of 3%.
Roger, you can't cut n paste yourself out of this.
well, i'd say he's pretty much fucked then, wouldn't you?
Rat the hole postulated....
well, i'd say he's pretty much fucked then, wouldn't you?
Yeah sure....you want to see fucked....look in the mirror at the asshole du jour.......lOLOLOL
2 ND quarter US GDP looks like it will be north of 3%.
Maybe.....like you all telling us it was a solid 3% before it wasn't We shall see with how those trump tariffs affect the GDP....it sure may be premature to start claiming victory...asshole.
KD the worthless piece of shit posted....
The illegals that force their kids to watch them break US Law should all be charged with child abuse.
And your claim to fame is your idiot parents left you money to continue your useless life without working....You should be charged with wanton stupidity!!!!
KD the moronic asshole thinks...
The left is for Abortion of US babies.
Not true....I would have advocated your parents to practice more self control before propagating a gigantic asshole like you. I would not have blamed them if they terminated you.....
Dopie posting four posts in a row, one dumber than the one before it like he's building a stairway to stupidville.
well, i'd say he's pretty much fucked then, wouldn't you?.RRB.
Yep.
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