- They are always open seats. Generally only a small percentage of congressional elections involve no incumbent.
- They generally attract way more attention than any November congressional election.
- Generally the amount of money spent in these elections is impossible to match in November
- They are way more susceptible to outside influence.
Ohio 12 was no exception. Two fairly unknown candidates. National spotlight. Money pouring in from all over the country.
As it stands, the GOP candidate Balderson holds about a 1750 vote lead with about 3500 absentee, provisional, and military votes left to count. Generally speaking, the race would generally be called by now if not for the unique circumstances. In fact, the race "was" called by some outlets, but as of this morning, I see that most everyone has pushed it back to "too close to call".
I literally take no stock in how a previous incumbent fared in a congressional district. That being said, the fact that both Trump and Romney won by approximately ten percent in this district (albeit for different reasons) suggests that this is one of those classic suburban red area that the Democrats are hoping to win in November.
In fact, this is the sort of district that is "right on the edge" of the sort of seat that they will need to win in November to retake the house. Nate Silver and gang over at 538 have used the nine percent number as the approximate breaking point for Democrats But in my mind, it's not as simple as saying they over performed by X amount of percentage points. The reality is that Democrats are simply not going to do as well in November against incumbents in these sorts of districts as they can in a special election for an open seat. I would expect that given that nine percent model, that they would generally come in "under" that nine percent in races where the incumbent is heavily entrenched, while over-performing that nine percent in open seats and seats with more vulnerable incumbents.
Both sides can take some comfort in these results. A larger win by Balderson would have probably put into question the concept of any sort of blue wave. Whereas and outright win by O'Connor would have caused some serious media splashes about blue waves. But at the end of the day, I suspect that this result does nothing to change the overall narrative of November.
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I literally take no stock in how a previous incumbent fared in a congressional district
Well good for you CH....Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it....a 30 point victory to a point poop win in a major red district is something even you should be able to understand....LOL
Already tired of the mid term elections....Being assaulted in 2 states with abject BS is really tiring...Florida, Scott who ripped off medicare for billions is accusing nelson of screwing seniors.....what a bunch of BS, but we all know that, even you CH,,,,LOLLOL
https://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/PolitiFact-Florida-Republican-PAC-misleads-in-ad-about-Sen-Bill-Nelson-s-record-on-Social-Security-Medicare_169198291
A new ad portrays Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson as a career politician who doesn’t have the backs of senior citizens.
The New Republican PAC, which is backing Gov. Rick Scott in Florida’s closely watched Senate race, released a 30-second ad criticizing Nelson’s voting record in Congress.
The ad juxtaposes Nelson’s mugshots from the 1970s to the 2000s with claims about his votes on Medicare and Social Security, two federal programs that largely benefit seniors, at the time.
"Politician Bill Nelson continues to run for public office, leaving few footprints behind," a narrator says. "Votes with Hillary Clinton 89 percent of the time. And raises taxes again. Cuts to Medicare providers, weakens Social Security protections."
We wanted to get to the bottom of the ad’s claim: Did Nelson vote to cut Medicare providers and weaken Social Security protections?
The PAC cited two measures that Nelson supported in 2011 and 2013 affecting Medicare.
The 2011 vote was for the Budget Control Act, and the 2013 vote was for the Bipartisan Budget Act of 2013.
Understanding how those votes can be characterized as "cuts to Medicare providers" requires a lot of context and a little history lesson on the 2011 sequester.
You win some and then lose another crook.....Another R bites the dust!!! What's that make 42 incumbents not running????? Another witch hunt you will scream....too fucking funny!!!
U.S. says New York congressman Collins indicted for insider trading
Reuters Reuters 20 minutes ago
Rep. Chris Collins, R-N.Y., speaks to the crowd before the arrival of Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump during a campaign stop at the First Niagara Center, Monday, April 18, 2016, in Buffalo, N.Y. (Photo: John Minchillo/AP)
NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. prosecutors on Wednesday said Christopher Collins, a Republican congressman from New York, has been indicted for insider trading in connection with the securities of Australian biotechnology company Innate Immunotherapeutics Ltd.
The indictment also charged Collins' son, Cameron Collins, as well as Stephen Zarsky, the father of Cameron Collins' fiancee.
Sure hope Kobach is the nominee......He is up by 191 votes...that should assure another D gov!!!!!
Ocasio-Cortez Was 0 for 4 last night. All the candidates she endorsed lost their primaries.
Apperently Democrats are not ready to go over the cliff just yet.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s record on Tuesday night for her chosen primary candidates was as bare as a Venezuelan supermarket shelf.
heh
Socialist star Fucktardio-Cortez strikes out: All endorsed candidates lose Tuesday primaries
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/socialist-star-cortez-strikes-out-all-endorsed-candidates-lose-tuesday-primaries/
Ocasio-Cortez Was 0 for 4 last night. All the candidates she endorsed lost their primaries."
She is the new fresh face of Democrats.
How long before Polosi/Schumer have "the talk"?
Let's see. I believe Repugs outspent Dems six to one
on Ohio (Repugs six million, Dems a little more than
one million) and may still not have won, of if so,
only barely.
Take comfort in that, Repugs?
Brain dead, then?
"O'Connor has dominated Balderson on the local airwaves. His campaign spent $2.25 million on advertising compared to Balderson's $507,000, according to campaign tallies of ad spending. The Republican campaign arm and its allied super PAC were forced to pick up the slack, spending more than $4 million between them."
Not sure what DNC and PACS spent but it wasn't zero
The POS "pastor" lies again. Oh wait, he didn't lie he only misbelieved as always.
ROFLMFAO !!!
"O'Connor has dominated Balderson on the local airwaves. His campaign spent $2.25 million on advertising compared to Balderson's $507,000, according to campaign tallies of ad spending. The Republican campaign arm and its allied super PAC were forced to pick up the slack, spending more than $4 million between them."
reality...
No congressional race in November is going to have 10 million dollars spent between the two candidates. This is the folly of trying to use special elections as an indicator of how a November election will turn out.
As I pointed out in the last thread. Entrenched GOP districts remain entrenched and that a "blue wave" may be a mirage.
Also of note, O'Connor ran as far away from Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the Democrat leadership as far as possible but it wasn't far enough.
The Trump Economy is being damaged by the Debt Obama Racked up with the US Federal Reserve thru Obama's QE1 thru Infinity.
The results of this election are sufficient evidence that if the Democrats follow the strategy as the DNC wants the candidates to follow below to a sweeping victory in November.
In many white working class and red state districts, Democratic policies and proposals, regardless of whether they are "progressive" or "moderate," never get seriously debated or even considered. As a result, in these districts neither strategy can be relied on to elect Democrats.
Instead, the success of Democratic candidates in these white working class communities will most critically depend on their ability to convincingly demonstrate to voters that Democrats will once again be their most sincere, effective and genuine advocates and representatives.
This challenge cuts across the conventional centrist-progressive divide that now dominates the debate within the Democratic coalition--and will fundamentally determine the outcome in November.
In Ohio the strongest weapon were medical care, Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid, mostly on Medicaid because it benefits lower income families.
Governor Kasich has been demanding that his state to get Medicaid benefits that the President has been denying.
The song and dance of screaming the Democrats are stealing your money isn't going to work.
Look at the demographics Scott. You are not going to get a Republican Congress and you may be facing a majority sufficient enough to keep the acti-"Freedom Caucus" from using the house rules to block justice and the Constitutional role in limiting Presidential authority.
Your hypocritical support for this President's attacks on the institutions of the government, if pursued by a Democratic President you would be screaming #impeachment from the balcony.
Johnson County, Kansas may have won the Republican election for Trump-endorsed Kris Kobach in neck-and-neck GOP governor primary.
Your hypocritical support for this President's attacks on the institutions of the government, if pursued by a Democratic President you would be screaming #impeachment from the balcony.
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YOU RAVING, WHINING LUNATIC!!!!!!!
WHAT IN THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE ELECTIONS LAST NIGHT PUSSY TROLL?????
In Washington state there are three districts 3,5 and 8. All Republican. Every one is tight. These are three more likely to be another gain for the Democrats.
I wish we had a "ignore" option on the blog so I wouldn't have to see this lunatics rants.
trump was 5 for 5, alky.
5 FOR 5
Look at the demographics Scott.
take your own advice, alky.
your "demographics is destiny" argument has been failing miserably since 2010.
yeah, that's right alky. especially since my side has been running in favor of SMALLER government since fucking forever.
perhaps it's purely coincidental that trump is most vociferously attacking those government institutions that were most weaponized by your dear leader 0linsky.
These are three more likely to be another gain for the Democrats.
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WHAT A CROCK OF SHIT PUSSY TROLL!!!!!!
THERE WAS NO BLUE WAVE AND THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE A BLUE WAVE YOU WHINING PUSSY TROLL!!!
Your hypocritical support for this President's attacks on the institutions of the government, if pursued by a Democratic President you would be screaming #impeachment from the balcony.
Actually Roger... I am 55 and you are older than I.
Neither of us have ever in our lives demanded "impeachment" for a President simply for following policy that we do not believe in or otherwise criticizing other. Nixon was in line for impeachment for Watergate, and Clinton was impeached for perjury and obstruction.
- Even after pardoning Nixon, nobody thought Ford should be impeached.
- As incompetent as Carter was, I don't recall anyone saying he should be impeached.
- Reagan did a lot of controversial things and was very conservative. Nobody talked about impeaching him over policy.
- Bush 41 only lasted one term. Many believe he neglected domestic policy. Never was there a demand he be impeached.
- Bush 43 was declared illegitimate and all but incompetent by the left, but nobody thought he should be "impeached" over policy.
- As much as Obama flouted the constitution and decided to rule by pen and phone, nobody ever suggested he be impeached.
The reality here, Roger... is that you are simply "wrong". Not 98% wrong. Not 99% wrong. Not 99.9% wrong. You are 100% wrong to act as if impeaching President because you don't agree with their policy or agee with other legal actions they take... is normal behavior.
It's not normal, Roger. It simply isn't normal at all. Not one little bit.
I never have and never will demand a President be removed over personal disputes over policy or other actions. Please stop acting as if the rest of us are as petty as you are.
Ohio 12th may not go Democratic. But both sides have the money problem. Balderson will have to spend almost every minute of every day raising money for the November election.
Trump may have been the decisive influence, but the Republicans are very nervous about the suburban voters nationwide. His behavior has made many people nervous about him and his pathological lying behavior and the Tweetstorms. Educated people are willing to change direction. The Democrats have to get the local candidates to emphasize their health care, and Social Security.
In the blue collar districts income inequality is important and as usual medical insurance. The Republicans have been trying to make low cost insurance policies that do not provide pre existing conditions with high copayments for medications. The health care providers have poured millions into the Republican candidates to help save their profit margins, not to save lives.
The Democrats have to emphasize the replacement of Obamacare is going to be more expensive with lower health coverage and no preexisting conditions. Trumpcare is not what he promised and said "nobody knew how complicated this was ".
The President has wavering support. Not in the polling but the devil is the details. Ohio 12th district is clear evidence of the conclusion.
Ohio 12th may not go Democratic. But both sides have the money problem. Balderson will have to spend almost every minute of every day raising money for the November election.
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SO WHAT PUSSY TROLL???!!???
Green party spoiler candidate in Ohio election whose 1,100 votes could tilt outcome says his ancestors were from another planet and can't remember his own campaign website address
If this was just a difference between a Democrat or a Republican. This is about his pathological lying behavior. This is about his attacks on the govrmernmetal institution that provides safety for millions of Americans and the people who risk their lives in the defense of the American people.
This is than "personal disputes over policy or other actions"
I am not alone in the belief that the President is not qualified and presented a clear and present danger with his cooperation with the brutal dictatorship of Vladimir Putin in contrary to everything that our nation stands for. You say that it's just "personal disputes over policy or other actions" I believe that he will lead this nation into a defacto dictatorship. He is already claiming that he has the right as President to do anything he wants and nobody can stop him short of impeachment. You are being lead down the road into something you said you don't support. A banana republic dictatorship.
A plurality of Republicans are in favor of the President has the authority to prosecute journalists who he says that they are using supposedly illegal secret information critical of his actions or himself. Yet you sit down and claim that it's just
personal disputes over policy or other actions.
His actions are clearly an assault upon the Constitution that has served us well for over two hundred and fifty five years. My math might not be perfect. Bush 41 got my vote. Saint Ronald Reagan once again got my vote.
You're belief that I am not sane is quite amusing. You say that and at the same time you ignore things done by this President that many highly respected psychologists have been trying to enlighten people like you to see that the President is not mentally fit to be President.
I'm 67 years old. Only 12 years older than you. Time flies Scott. The difference between us is more than just political. Having a difference of opinion is not evidence of psychological projection.
I'm grateful for your concern, but it's not real. I'm not fucking crazy.
rrb for example is evidence of fucking crazy. Kput'z is fucking stupid.
Think outside the box.
The Rules Don’t Apply to Me. I can do anything I want to do as President.
Narcissists do not care about any rules, codes, or ethics. Those rules are for other people to follow, the lesser beings that need to be told what to do, the sheep. The narcissist feels they are entitled to do whatever they want. They are special. They are God’s gift to the world.
David Frum. A Republican.
Yeah difference between politics matter, but in regards to the President this matter.
You're belief that I am not sane is quite amusing.
I have never suggested you to be "insane". Nope. Just childish and immature, especially for a 67 year old. Asking for a President with approvals still sitting in the low 40's (fairly normal for our past few Presidents) to be impeached...
entirely based on your opinions about how he is performing his job...
rather than based on any alleged "high crimes or misdemeanors"...
is akin to throwing a temper tantrum, because your person didn't win, and because Trump is moving the country in a direction that you don't like. So you want to "impeach him" or otherwise "remove him" because... well because you don't like him or how he behaves.
Moreover, you act like it's "perfectly normal" to call for impeachment over non-criminal actions (in spite of offering no other examples of this normal behavior). Be clear, normal means that it is the "norm" which is to say that it happens more often than not.
Something happening for the first time (calling for impeachment because you don't like a President) is by definition a "first" and by definition "not normal".
You also seem to act like it's perfectly normal for a President to be nearly 20 months into his Presidency and "still" be under some "investigation" that has been going on for several months "before" he became President, without a sliver of evidence that he broke any laws or did anything to warrant the attention.
He's never had a day in office that hasn't been clouded over a hyper-partisan investigation that was not based on the normal laws of special counsel (the first and only special investigation ever brought forward without allegations or evidence of any crimes).
You act as if "this" is all normal, and the only "abnormal" thing about it is that the President is actually stealing from the Clinton Ken Starr play book of calling the investigation a "witch hunt" "partisan" etc... which come to think of it, has been more "normal" than anything else you seem to think is normal.
"I believe that he will lead this nation into a defacto dictatorship."
LOL.
Narcissists do not care about any rules, codes, or ethics. Those rules are for other people to follow, the lesser beings that need to be told what to do, the sheep. The narcissist feels they are entitled to do whatever they want. They are special. They are God’s gift to the world.
David Frum. A Republican.
what's a "preening asshat messiah with a pen and phone" 0linsky got to do with it???
I believe that he will lead this nation into a defacto dictatorship.
LOL. and you wonder why we question your sanity.
you haven't had a rational comment or opinion of trump since the day he officially announced his candidacy.
David Frum is another person involved with the Bush clan. All of whom pretty much all hate Trump, because Trump stepped out of line and took Jeb's rightful place at the top of the 2016 ticket.
Frum has also been a regular on the Bill Maher show.
He wrote an anti-Trump book.
Not exactly solid signs of being an otherwise faithful 2018 Republican.
"Just childish and immature, especially for a 67 year old"
Many alcoholics begin to abuse alcohol (or drugs) while they are still young, so they fail to mature emotionally.
frum is as much a republican as david brooks, who swooned at the sight of the crease in 0linsky's trousers.
roger has sudden love affairs with a long list of never trump "republicans." guys like max boot, rick wilson, george will, william kristol, etc. idiots who would literally destroy the nation -at least at an economic level - to make their point.
idiots so bitter they refuse to see decades-long value of a gorsuch or kavanaugh.
i don't get it. for the first time in a decade the economy is roaring, the USSC is safe from corruption for 30 years, and our enemies at least respect us and perhaps fear us again, as they should.
I got the response I expected.
Anyone in the free press criticizing the President is an enemy of the country.
Step one to the dictatorship government has said he admires.
I voted for Republicans in the past.
But the President has taken over the party of Reagan and George H.W Bush and Gerald Ford and turned it into a crypto fascist party.
The economy growth is slowing down and the deficits that the Republicans were saying that were irresponsible are skyrocketing.
Donald J. Trump the 25th amendment says that if the President is not capable of performing his duties the Vice President immediately will be the President. No high crimes and misdemeanors are included in the 25th amendment.
Heavily attracted to power,
grandiose Ass Kisser
Name Droppe
Nosey Information Hoarder.
Sneaky, conniving, schemer, manipulative Thinks he/she is flawless and great at everything
Entitled, privileged
Superficially charming, charismatic, clever, interesting
Controlling Cold, callous, insincere, inconsiderate, affectionless, emotionless Chameleon,
Two-faced Half assed, dilettante, dabbler, does not follow through Pushy, bully, belittler Slick talker, salesman, con-man, articulate, Liar, bluffer, bullshitter Motor mouth, overly talkative Sarcastic, witty Attention craver, domineering, egocentric
Etc
Maybe over kill but it matters
Emotionally stunted.
"The economy growth is slowing down and the deficits that the Republicans were saying that were irresponsible are skyrocketing."
Impeach!
Oh god he's back to the 25th
Insane!!!
"i don't get it. for the first time in a decade the economy is roaring, the USSC is safe from corruption for 30 years, and our enemies at least respect us and perhaps fear us again, as they should."
Impeach!
I didn't use drugs or alcohol until I was 19.
I was never charged with a crime or misdemeanor possession or distribution.
I became a very skilled carpenter and construction estimator for Kaiser Permanente for 20 years.
Some older women lose their mental capacity to understand the ways of the world.
Slowing Economy" alky
Living on the streets as a broken down drunkard.
Missed that 4.1 % growth?
"Oh god he's back to the 25th
Insane!!!"
Too bad he has this blog to live out his fantasies.
Safe from corruption? Manafort? Page?
About 40 staff members at the Office of Financial Research were told they are losing their jobs on Wednesday, according to Reuters.
The office, part of the Treasury Department and created as part of the the Dodd-Frank legislation, is tasked with identifying financial risks and stress on global financial markets.
The move was part of the administration’s larger plan to vastly reorganize the structure of the federal government, as announced in June. President Trump proposed slashing the office's budget and slashing employees last May.
Keep your eyes open on corruption but cut the budget of the anti corruption department
Anyone in the free press criticizing the President is an enemy of the country.
yet it's fakebook, you tube et. al. who are arbitrarily silencing their political enemies because hate speech.
so yeah, it's trump who's the one leading us into a dictatorship.
I have to go to the gym now and leave you to worship the President and his pathological lying behavior is unfair because he is the President.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
The economy growth is slowing down...
more psychological projection from the alky.
genius, the atlanta fed is already projecting 5% GDP in the current quarter. while optimistic, that would be UP from last quarter's 4.1%.
hardly the definition of a slowdown.
Privately owned companies have the legal authority to refuse service to people like one of your heros. He believes that 9/11 was a fraud.
Infowars is the craziest place on earth and I would bet that you are a follower.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Donald J. Trump the 25th amendment says that if the President is not capable of performing his duties the Vice President immediately will be the President. No high crimes and misdemeanors are included in the 25th amendment.
and here's what the 25th DOESN'T say -
that a piss-drunk, permanently disabled, narcotic-dependant, irrational nit-wit is qualified to determine the fitness of ANY elected official, including the president.
"hardly the definition of a slowdown."
Doesn't matter.
Roger wants him impeached.
"I have to go to the gym now and leave you to worship the President and his pathological lying behavior is unfair because he is the President."
Sure creeper.
The U.S. economic outlook is healthy according to the key economic indicators. The most critical indicator is the gross domestic product, which measures the nation's production output. The GDP growth rate is expected to remain between the 2 percent to 3 percent ideal range. Unemployment is forecast to continue at the natural rate. There isn't too much inflation or deflation. That's a Goldilocks economy.
President Trump promised to increase economic growth to 4 percent. That's faster than is healthy. Growth at that pace leads to an overconfident irrational exuberance. That creates a boom that leads to a damaging bust. The factors that cause these changes in the business cycle are supply, demand, capital availability, and the market’s perception of the economic future.
https://www.thebalance.com/us-economic-outlook-3305669
Street Drunk
Cheered a flash down dow on Nov 9th, 2016 pre-trading. Since that day well, "victory for Donald Trump in the US presidential election.
In the final hour of trading, the Dow Jones Industrial Average gained 312 points to cross its prior record high on a closing basis of 18,613.52."
Today's close = 25,613
Do you invest like Roger?
"President Trump promised to increase economic growth to 4 percent."
2018 2nd quarter 4.1 %, promise kept.
Obama 1.9 % average over 8 lost years.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Privately owned companies have the legal authority to refuse service to people like one of your heros. He believes that 9/11 was a fraud.
he's not my hero alky, but one of yours - rosie o'donnell - also thinks 9/11 was a fraud.
i'm a free speech absolutist. i defend the right of complete fucking insufferable assholes like you and alex jones to speak. like your speech i abhor what jones has to say but he should not be silenced. especially in such a cowardly and disingenuous way.
shit stains like you and jones have value, alky. you teach us as a society what to avoid, what NOT to do, how NOT to turn out as individuals and citizens. we hold you up as examples - examples of whackjob insane conspiracy nuts, and more garden variety insane rum bums. you and him are the poster children for most of what's wrong with america.
so THAT'S why you and him deserve a platform. you two are the flashing warning lights before we careen straight into "idiocracy."
One more thing.
If the investigation shows that the President has either conspired with the Russians or has been committed objection of justice then the Congress has to determine if the charges represent crimes and misdemeanors. Then and only then should the Congress act to impeach and President.
You do not impeach for political differences.
If he conspired with the Russians he committed treason.
HA!
"the balance"
big proponents of 0linskycare.
https://www.thebalance.com/affordable-care-act-4073022
thanks for always pointing out the whacko sites alky.
You do not impeach for political differences.
which explains why you've been a vocal proponent for exactly that - impeachment for political differences.
you're a fraud alky.
Just Damn old undereducated street drunk .
"The most critical indicator is the gross domestic product".
Nope, Actually when scoring The Leading Indicators they are
http://www.thenatureofmarkets.com/the-5-most-important-leading-indicators-for-investors-traders/
Posting while drunk
"committed objection of justice "
I see your point. I don't agree with Facebook etc. On Alex Jones. I think that he may be facing charges if someone hurts or murderers someone who Jones had said we would be better off if the victim was dead. It's a fine line but you never know.
Privately owned companies have the legal authority to refuse service to people like one of your heros.
Yet bakers and florists can't
I never said anything about political differences as an impeachable offense.
Did you read what I said?
I don't agree with Facebook etc. and Alex Jones
From Roger's posted link, thank Trump for the end of this kind of non-sense: former Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen admitted a lot of workers are part-time and would prefer full-time work. Also, most job growth is in low-paying retail and food service industries. Some people have been out of work for so long that they'll never be able to return to the high-paying jobs they used to have. Structural unemployment has increased. These traits are unique to this recovery."
Yet bakers and florists can't
that's right. just as long as sodomy trumps religiosity. those crazy jesus people must capitulate.
if it weren't for double standards the left would have no standards at all.
.
"caliphate4vrAugust 8, 2018 at 2:40 PM
Privately owned companies have the legal authority to refuse service to people like one of your heros.
Yet bakers and florists can't."
Take your boot off of Roger's neck he is turning red.
"https://www.thebalance.com/us-economic-outlook-3305669"
Impeach!
Ette, JO County may have given Kris Kobach the win.
I never said anything about political differences as an impeachable offense.
You believe, from a political standpoint that Donald Trump is a dangerous President who should be impeached for a variety of reasons, which you elaborate on in a most passionate way.
A majority of the Country disagrees with your personal opinion on impeachment. Furthermore, somewhere between 40-50 percent of Americans not only "don't want" Trump impeached, but they believe he is a good President doing a good job.
So yeah, Rog. Whether Trump is a good President who is responsible for a good economy, appointing strong conservative judges, slowing down illegal immigration, deregulating businesses, and holding our allies and enemies accountable on an international scale... as many people believe.
or he is a danger to the constitution and society as a whole (as you seem to believe).
Is 100% absolutely nothing more than a "difference of political opinion".
Etta, JO County may have given Kris Kobach the win.
Great news idiots!!! You will have a national embarrassment running for governor.......YEAH!!!!! Go Kansas!!!!!
According to Broken Drunk Rog.
President Trump’s Economy is too strong. Too much Winning.
"Ette, JO County may have given Kris Kobach the win."
I'm not a Kobach fan, but it is what it is.
Jones may have a chance with this SCOTUS if he takes them to court.
You actually may have a point.
The difference between them is that their religious beliefs gave them the right to choose their customers.
Facebook etc. believe that Jones is inspiring terrorism or murder.
Therein lies the difference between the two situations. Committing sodomy is not a criminal act. One is encouraging violence. That is a crime.
KD the latent goat fucker posted.....
Privately owned companies have the legal
Take your boot off of Roger's neck he is turning red.
Try to follow the thread asshole...that quote came from Alex Jones and Info wars....BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! Your stupidity is boundless!!!!!
"One is encouraging violence. That is a crime."
Someone needs to tell mad Maxine...
24hour Fitness center is just a half mile away. If you ever decide to visit Disneyland we will have to meet. I will buy you the best beer you have ever known. Then we will go to the gym and see if I am still a crippled old man .
"Committing sodomy is not a criminal act." Alky
It is in CA.
Penal Code 286 PC, California's sodomy law, still punishes "unlawful acts of sodomy." These include
forcing someone to have sodomy against his/her will; OR
acts of sodomy involving minor children."
Winners and losers from the elections in Ohio, Kansas and three other states
President Trump was not the big winner in the latest round of primaries and special elections. House Democrats were.
By Amber Phillips
Ohio House race too close to call, exposing concerns over vulnerabilities in Trump coalition
Yep another bad week for trump chumps!!!! Wonder how that Collins seat will do since it is too late for him to come off the ballot??? Will it be the R version of what happened to Rosenkowski???? Funny.....the prosecutor for that case was Eric Holder!!!
forcing someone to have sodomy against his/her will; OR
acts of sodomy involving minor children."
IOW's raping someone or doing a child. is a crime.....NO SHIT SHERLOCK!!!!!! ...You really are too stupid for words, asshole.....Literally you are the dumbest fuck in kansas...!!!!!
Wonder when trump will start draining the swamp with all the corruption in DC now with this collins arrest and the Virginia Beach petition signature fraud going on.....Yep, he sure cleaned things up.....and the slurping continues !!
I am sure this Kobach guy will resonate across the whole country for the mid terms....And KD keeps sucking and lowretta keeps slurping.....
Kansas Republicans appear to have thumbed their noses at the party establishment on Tuesday in the primary for governor, failing to persuasively back the sitting governor, Jeff Colyer and instead leaving room to elect Kris Kobach, the state’s secretary of state — and quite possibly the most pernicious public official in America.
This distinction is not conferred lightly. Mr. Kobach has labored for it long and hard, notably in the areas of voter suppression and nativism. He is best known for having been the vice chairman of President Trump’s ugly voter fraud commission, spawned in 2017 to root out the millions of illegal voters who Mr. Trump’s ego pathetically, and falsely, claimed had cost him the popular vote in 2016. The commission was dissolved this January, having failed to find any evidence of widespread fraud, but having succeeded in raising Mr. Kobach’s national profile and cementing his reputation as a master purveyor of Trumpism.
Mr. Kobach on Wednesday declared victory at a noon news conference, acknowledging that only 191 votes separated him from Mr. Colyer and that the election result may change as provisional and other ballots are counted.
Mr. Kobach is running for governor on a promise to “Make Kansas Great Again.” (#MKGA!) If it holds up, his primary election win, bolstered by a last-minute endorsement by Mr. Trump, will be another reminder that the political currents that delivered us this president still rage within the Republican base.
Kansas....the venezuela of the US!!!!
Wilbur, Price,Pruitt, Collins, Manafort.....amazing how much corruption surrounds trump and you chumps keep slurping....and do nothing, Ryan and Mitch remain mute....Russians hacking is a hoax and you chumps keep sucking away....How much more do you want this country to sink???????
LOOK AT THE COMMIE PUSSY TROLL!!!!!
ROGER MIGHT FUCK YOU, BUT NO ONE ELSE WILL, FECKLESS SKANK!!!!!!
The big thing: Democrats' special edge in 2018
Democrats have outperformed in each special election since President Trump took office by an average of 8.5 points, according to the Cook Political Report's Partisan Voter Index, which measures the partisan tilt of each district based on the two previous presidential elections.
Why it matters: This is nearly double the margin required for Democrats to take back the House, says Cook's Dave Wasserman, who estimates they'd need to outperform PVI by just 4-5 points to win in November.
*Ohio vote totals are preliminary; Notes: The Cook Partisan Voter Index is a measure of how liberal or conservative a district leans based on the two most recent presidential elections; Data: Ballotpedia, Cook Political Report, and Associated Press; Chart: Chris Canipe/Axios
The big picture: "[T]here are 68 GOP-held House seats with a Cook PVI score less Republican than the 12th CD's (R+7), and 119 GOP-held House seats less Republican than Pennsylvania's 18th CD (R+11), where Democrat Conor Lamb won in March. Democrats only need to net 23 seats to win the House," .
How much more do you want this country to sink??????
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IT ISN'T SINKING YOU FUCKING PUSSY TROLL!!!!!!!
About time, some D's are learning it is important to distance themselves from Nancy.....Good...she is the albatross of a tidal wave mid term.....Some saying that if donnie had been more vocal, this may have been a D win....oh well, I hope they are listening....!!!!
The big thing: Democrats' special edge in 2018
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LOOK WHO'S BACK FROM THE "GYM"!!!!!!
THE BIGGEST PUSSY TROLL HERE!!!!
Are you in denial about your sexuality desires?
House Democrats have to distance themselves from Pelosi in November
have to distance themselves from Pelosi in November
Starting now is not a bad idea...she is poison....Having watch ads now in 2 states...Her face is most prominent in ads for R's who have no message other than they are not pelosi clones...It is truly sad how wide her hatred runs...including me...!!!!! She gets visceral reactions from the non thinking trump chumps. The best course of action would be her to resign her seat!!!!!!
DEMOCRATS BLAME RUSSIANS FOR OHIO LOSS
Alex Jones fabrication from the Drudge Report.
Note that the headline on this story is
Ohio 12 Special Election (Russians help GOP steal win?)
I have known for years that Scott has used the Drudge Report as a source of his topics. Coincidence??? You decided.
Alky, CHT has used many news collection sites for the topic of the day including.
HuffPo
Democratunderground
Wash post
KD said...
Alky, CHT has used many news collect
The goat fucker arrives to suck on CH's manhood.....LOLOL...find a job!!!
KD said...
Alky, CHT has used many news collect
KD said...
Alky, CHT has used many news collect
The gpa
I love Nancy Polosi and cortez. Both strong voice woman. I know they will be proudly out for Democrats.
Cortez had a rough National debut.
Dick week goat fucker posted...
I love Nancy Polosi and cortez
So full of shit and unoriginal, you must be a loser from kansas who can't find work....just a leech on society who thinks he is important....asshole..Another senior moment for our circle jerk pivot man...LOLOLOL
Kput'z said that he inherited his ranch.
that he inherited his ranch.
Yep...that be his only claim to fame, living off his dead parents hard work while being a worthless pile of shit without a working brain....
"said that he inherited his ranch."
Wrong.
Roger and Dennis, did your parents leave you an inheritance?
I have known for years that Scott has used the Drudge Report as a source of his topics. Coincidence??? You decided.
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SO WHAT PUSSY TROLL??????
IT'S A NEWS AGGRAVATION WEBSITE YOU FUCKING PUSSY TROLL!!!!!
You said that on Soars
Political said the Ohio Special Election was a battle between my fav Polosi and Pres. Trump.
Ok,
Roger, your wrong, I know you will continue like ignorant Dennis, so please play through.
Roger and Dennis, did your parents leave you an inheritance?
Roger, remember telling us you spend more on booze in a year then most Americans earn?
I do.
did your parents leave you an inheritance?
I answered that weeks ago....and you then berated my parents as failures....asshole...go fuck your pig wife.... and you said you inherited your POS here to me.....fuck you!!!
Roger - how come you didn't respond to my follow up on how your concept of impeaching a President that 9 in 20 Americans believe is doing a good job, and that 3 in 5 believe should stay in office...
Is simply a political disagreement between those who believe he is doing a fine job, and those of you who believe he is doing "so poorly" that he should be impeached?
You never explained how your position regarding impeachment is "not" a political disagreement?
Roger, remember telling us you spend more on booze in a year then most Americans earn?
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NOT A SURPRISE!!!!!
JUDGING BY HIS CONSTANT WHINING AND LACK OF A DECENT EXERCISE/LACK THEREOF THE FAT ASS PUSSY TROLL IS STILL SPENDING!!!!
I'm actually going to the gym. I'm outside the door. Lots of good looking women.
Loretta would be checking my ass.
Dennis received no Inheritance.
Alky when you get back , go ahead and answer.
Did your parents give you an inheritance?
Dennis received no Inheritance.
Alky when you get back , go ahead and answer.
Did your parents give you an inheritance?
I have to laugh when someone continually feels the need to announce that he's going to the gym. I'm in a kung fu dojo multiple times every week for the last several years. You haven't seen me bragging about it.
Iow, roger should shut up and just go do it.
"You haven't seen me bragging about it."
Roger's a creeper, you're not.
"Loretta would be checking my ass."
You're a married man.
ACT LIKE IT!
I did. I'm stronger than I have been very young.
I put in about 90 minutes. Pretty much everything.
Big deal.
Scott, impeachment is "not" a political disagreement? It's not the reason. His mental illness issue will not be considered.
The President has not yet done anything yet to demand impeachment as far as we know.
There are many signs that he may have conspired with the Russians during the election. He's not stupid but he's very impulsive. If the Muller investigation team releases data that shows that he did cooperate or in some other way to get help from the Russians, in other words colluded in a conspiracy to defeat Hillary Clinton, he's got a problem. Some lawyers say that some of his tweets could be obstruction of justice. But that's not likely to happen.
As to policy issues you seem to have put aside your previously stated political beliefs like the deficit. And on many other issues.
Done often enough it matters.
About one year ago I was just starting to get back into regular mobility. I had to use a walker to get anywhere. Now I am strong and flexible and walk unassisted. My doctors have been impressed and happy to see a patient get out and back to the gym and normal life.
Like me or not I'm very happy to be here to drive you crazy.
"Like me or not I'm very happy to be here to drive you crazy."
No wonder CH blocked and unfriended you on Facebook.
He didn't like it when I would send him something on Facebook messenger off hours. He had a point and I still kept doing it. I was still waiting for the liver transplant and sometimes I was on a lot of medications and sometimes I would just click and send it whenever I felt like it.
I wouldn't be doing that now but he's not going to unblock me anymore.
Loretta you take offense on anything I say. Instead why don't you just ignore me and shut up? You never actually contribute anything except angry b.s.
Loretta said...
You're a married man.
ACT LIKE IT!
So is trump and you don't hold him to the same standard, hag...
Dennis received no Inheritance.
And your whole life revolves around you being a leech sucking off your parents. Entitltled asshole thinks you are hot shit.....go fuck yourself....asshole
It should be noted that O'Conner came so close is because he is actually very moderate, opposing all of the socialist ideas about free everything while embracing capitalism.
You won't hear this from the news media though.
Did I call it or what. The Washington Post the Hill and the New York Times are all furiously spinning this as a "win" for the Democrats. Never let the facts get in the way of a good narrative. Especially if it's an anti-Trump narrative.
"Instead why don't you just ignore me and shut up? You never actually contribute anything except angry b.s."
You're a train wreck. Everything you spew is ugly but we can't look away.
" You never actually contribute anything except angry b.s."
Well isn't that just rich. THIS coming from Mr #resistwemustIMPEACH!
It should be noted that O'Conner came so close is because he is actually very moderate,
The same reason that seat in Pa flipped....If he unsupportes Pelosi, he could very well win in November....
The Washington Post the Hill and the New York Times are all furiously spinning this as a "win"
While you consider it a YUGE win keeping a seat that has been safe for years with piss poor turnout by the rural base.....seems an ominous sign!!!
The Law by Frederic Bastiat
1. Vince Lombardi
“Winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing.”
There are many signs that he may have conspired with the Russians during the election.
no, actually there are not any.
what exists is a mountain of leftist hallucinations, innuendos, and psychotic exaggerated visions of wrongdoing, all with their foundation built on nothing more than wishful thinking, sore loserdom, and a burning, seething, spittle-flecked hatred for the president.
your comment implies that there are dots that exist which have yet to be connected. after all this time one can only conclude that mueller is one slow bitch to have not nailed trump on something - anything - by now.
if you were honest you'd admit this. any rational, thinking person would. but you're such a fucking asshole that you are enjoying this constant slow drip of harassment of trump. THAT'S your end game. there's no collusion, there's no cooperation, there was no plot, nothing was stolen or gained illegally or nefariously.
you simply hate the man (and the fact that hillary lost) so much that you want to see every moment of his presidency made miserable for him. and the fact that he's enjoying every minute of it while winning bigly is driving you mad.
As to policy issues you seem to have put aside your previously stated political beliefs like the deficit.
...from the big book of "hypocrisy is the bedrock of liberalism,' chapter 1763.
for 8 years 0linsky incurred as much debt as every single one of his predecessors COMBINED, and you not only didn't fucking care, you cheered him on. skeets' porkulus was such a fucking joke that even HE was caught laughing about it and it's fallacy of "shovel-ready" projects. it's funny that those signs touting the porkulus municipal projects still exist around here. i pass one often in troy and am tempted to contact the city to see if i can have it as a souvenir when they take it down.
this is yet another thing that cracks me up about you assholes, alky - debts and deficits only matter to you when a republican is living in the white house.
no, actually there are not any.
What little I thought of you has gone to zero walking rectum.....The brain washing is complete......the future of the country is in yours and the idiots hands and you don't even see it...Blinded by the trump.....so sad!!! No meeting at trump tower. No dirt on hillary, Flynn never promised anything....kislyak never showed up at the convention or the white house and never spoke to sessions...yeah, all those fake meetings never happened.....hos quaint....LOLOLOL
Illustrated by sixth-year summer intern, Biff Spackle.
A new low....LOLOLOL!!!
" Post the Hill and the New York Times are all furiously spinning this as a "win" for the Democrats. Never let the facts get in the way of a good narrative. Especially if it's an anti-Trump narrative."
Yep
Dennis and Alky have a lot of made up shit they believe about me, my life and my wealth. Funny to watch.
I see lo iq commie actually has an ability.
He just showed us what a blabbering idiot is.
ROFLMFAO !!!
"this is yet another thing that cracks me up about you assholes, alky - debts and deficits only matter to you when a republican is living in the white house."
AND taxes on corporations.
Roger -
So it sounds to me like you agree that there is no good reason to impeach the President short of the Mueller investigation finding rock solid evidence of collusion or obstruction.
But yet you continuously argue that he should be removed from office and that the majority of the country that disagrees with you are all inflicted with some form of Trump related mental illness for not seeing him the same way you see him?
So I am really curious, once and for all.
Do you believe that a President who has not broken any laws, has an approval rating consistent with other recent Presidents, and continues to do the job that those who elected him want him to do...
Should be impeached, because you don't like his actions, personality, and political stances?
Dennis and Alky have a lot of made up shit they believe about me,
Like you got fired, have no job, cut down and burn trees, have no life and live on property given to you by your parents??? Those parts...Why don't you correct us, provide an address of your property to see how you got the title...
During the Lost years the Federal Reserve hid debt and the fawning press helped. As assets where puchased by the feed with money they did have the fed racked up 2 trillion in obama debt. Now Pres. Trump's Economy is "unwinding QE 1 thru Infinity " which is costing GDP and Jobs.
Like you got fired, have no job, cut down and burn trees, have no life and live on property given to you by your parents???"
Good morning Dennis. How are you.
I do plant trees, hundreds on the lands I own. I do burn trees to heat my home. I was moved to Kansas when I was in the US Army. Went to College @ KU ((Vietnam era GI bill)) met my wife in college. Have two adult kids . One Graduated from college , one is a Sophmore @KU. I retired with a defined benefit as did my much better have. We bought the home place unincumbered, built our home with our own skills and a lot of favors from friends and her family. She is a native Kansan. I am a "Misplacedmich". Yes, I did inherent a large some of money thanks to my Parents. My 5 siblings did the same.
My wife and I work our ranch and other purchased lands bought during down turns in ranching like the last KS drought some 10 years or so ago.
These are the facts.
If I am asked a reasonable question and you want to know more just ask. I am a Kansas Democrat.
I am a Kansas Democrat. ans flaming asshole.....
YOUR DEFINED PLAN???? BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!! You haven't worked a full day in your life....your ranch was given to you and your skill set is lying and bull shit.....now what about that lien on your property????? lOLOLOL
Do you believe that a President who has not broken any laws, has an approval rating consistent with other recent Presidents, and continues to do the job that those who elected him want him to do...
Should be impeached, because you don't like his actions, personality, and political stances?
the irony in the question you pose to roger is that he truly believes himself qualified to diagnose and declare donald trump to be a threat to our democracy, our constitution, our republic and a precursor to an inevitable totalitarian dictatorship...
...while himself being a human failure of epic proportions.
he truly believes himself qualified to diagnose and declare donald trump to be a threat to our democracy, our constitution, our republic and a precursor to an inevitable totalitarian dictatorship...
Above and beyond that, he tends to believe that his opinions are not opinion, but rather facts that are beyond contestation. He truly believes that it's completely irrational to disagree with him, and the only possible reason anyone would disagree is because they are somehow delusional, and the only likely reason is that they have been personally influenced by the President himself.
and it looks like your question is being ignored in favor of a copy/paste on the next thread.
the alky is nothing if not predictable.
Dennis and Alky have a lot of made up shit they believe about me, my life and my wealth. Funny to watch.
now what about that lien on your property?"
Answer : been debt free since 1998.
"the alky is nothing if not predictable." RRB
The Dem in Oh oh Ohio won. Just read pre and post election posts.
Above and beyond that, he tends to believe that his opinions are not opinion
You really need to look in the mirror when it comes to that post, CH......you are as guilty as anyone when it comes to that...case in point,....the baker you defend....sad...very sad you don't recognize your own foibles....
Answer : been debt free since 1998.
You can't prove that asshole.....nor can you prove that you ever worked in your life or have any real property that you did not get as an entitlement....You are nothing but a liar and a fraud and a bullshitter......there is not a chance I believe a single thing you post.,,,,like your 4.8 wage growth lie.....try again then go away.!!!!
Reality Dennis is kicking your teeth down your throat. It was my honor to provide my boot.
You're dis.... missed.
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