Saturday, August 18, 2018

Papadopoulos Sentencing Recommendation: Six Months

Special counsel Robert Mueller recommended in a court filing on Friday that former Trump campaign staffer George Papadopoulos be sentenced to a maximum of six months in prison. Papadopoulos is set to be sentenced on September 7.
Papadopoulos pleaded guilty in October 2017 of one count of lying to FBI agents working for Mueller's investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election. He was the first person charged in connection with Mueller's investigation.
In the court filing, Mueller wrote that Papadopoulos' "lies negatively affected the FBI's Russia investigation" and his "lies were not momentarily lapses."
So not exactly sure what to make of this. In reality, short of recommending no jail time at all, six months is about as weak of a recommendation as there could actually be. The timing is also suspect. Is this weak recommendation a response to the recent threats by Papadopoulos's wife that they may decide to opt out of the plea? Is it a signal that the entire investigation is drawing towards a conclusion?

26 comments:

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Is it a signal that the entire investigation is drawing towards a conclusion?

Well Scott this breaking News story about the White house counsel is cooperating with the Muller investigation..


The White House counsel, Donald F. McGahn II, has cooperated extensively in the special counsel investigation, sharing detailed accounts about the episodes at the heart of the inquiry into whether President Trump obstructed justice, including some that investigators would not have learned of otherwise, according to a dozen current and former White House officials and others briefed on the matter.

In at least three voluntary interviews with investigators that totaled 30 hours over the past nine months, Mr. McGahn described the president’s furor toward the Russia investigation and the ways in which he urged Mr. McGahn to respond to it. He provided the investigators examining whether Mr. Trump obstructed justice a clear view of the president’s most intimate moments with his lawyer.

Among them were Mr. Trump’s comments and actions during the firing of the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, and Mr. Trump’s obsession with putting a loyalist in charge of the inquiry, including his repeated urging of Attorney General Jeff Sessions to claim oversight of it. Mr. McGahn was also centrally involved in Mr. Trump’s attempts to fire the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, which investigators might not have discovered without him.



This could be a strategy by the President. It could also be the counsel is not going to conceal damaging information to the investigation.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

For a lawyer to share so much with investigators scrutinizing his client is unusual. Lawyers are rarely so open with investigators, not only because they are advocating on behalf of their clients but also because their conversations with clients are potentially shielded by attorney-client privilege, and in the case of presidents, executive privilege.

What do you think about this? Should Trump be frightened? I think that we will have to wait for the President on Twitter.

commie said...

six months is about as weak of a recommendation as there could actually be...

You willing to do that time??? Only six months with you on top or bottom might be a little tough....LOLOLOL

Anonymous said...

Only six months with you on top or bottom might be a little tough....LOLOLOL"

Denise has done prison time. 100 % positive.

Anonymous said...

Only six months with you on top or bottom might be a little tough....LOLOLOL"

Denise has done prison time. 100 % positive.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

If Machenfork is convicted and sentenced to basically a life sentence, the President will blow up his Twitter feed.

I'm trying to look at the actions of the President in the last two weeks, without my partisan view. It's getting increasingly erratic. His tweets are saying one thing. Then like in his interview with the Wall Street Journal admitted that the reason he suspended Benenn was because of the investigations into the Russian intervention.

Anonymous said...

"Machenfork"

Who Alky?

Anonymous said...

All kidding aside.
How much of what Not your President tweets do you read ?

I read 0 percent, unless they are cut n paste here.

commie said...

Wonder what Mueller found out from this???? Could be a lot of fun for me.....BAug. 18, 2018

WASHINGTON — The White House counsel, Donald F. McGahn II, has cooperated extensively in the special counsel investigation, sharing detailed accounts about the episodes at the heart of the inquiry into whether President Trump obstructed justice, including some that investigators would not have learned of otherwise, according to a dozen current and former White House officials and others briefed on the matter.

In at least three voluntary interviews with investigators that totaled 30 hours over the past nine months, Mr. McGahn described the president’s furor toward the Russia investigation and the ways in which he urged Mr. McGahn to respond to it. He provided the investigators examining whether Mr. Trump obstructed justice a clear view of the president’s most intimate moments with his lawyer.

Among them were Mr. Trump’s comments and actions during the firing of the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, and Mr. Trump’s obsession with putting a loyalist in charge of the inquiry, including his repeated urging of Attorney General Jeff Sessions to claim oversight of it. Mr. McGahn was also centrally involved in Mr. Trump’s attempts to fire the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, which investigators might not have discovered without him.

For a lawyer to share so much with investigators scrutinizing his client is unusual. Lawyers are rarely so open with investigators, not only because they are advocating on behalf of their clients but also because their conversations with clients are potentially shielded by attorney-client privilege, and in the case of presidents, executive privilege.

“A prosecutor would kill for that,” said Solomon L. Wisenberg, a deputy independent counsel in the Whitewater investigation, which did not have the same level of cooperation from President Bill Clinton’s lawyers. “Oh my God, it would have been phenomenally helpful to us. It would have been like having the keys to the kingdom.”

Mr. McGahn’s cooperation began in part as a result of a decision by Mr. Trump’s first team of criminal lawyers to collaborate fully with Mr. Mueller. The president’s lawyers have explained that they believed their client had nothing to hide and that they could bring the investigation to an end quickly.

commie said...

Denise has done prison time. 100 % positive.

100000% positive you are an asshole and goat fucker....idiot..

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Mr. McGahn is cooperating with the investigation to avoid a possible charge for obstruction of justice.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott you have to take a look at this and don't try to imply that this is just another Hoax. Unless you decide in advance that this is just more Fake News, you will not have any more credibility.

In at least three voluntary interviews with investigators that totaled 30 hours over the past nine months, Mr. McGahn described the president’s furor toward the Russia investigation and the ways in which he urged Mr. McGahn to respond to it. He provided the investigators examining whether Mr. Trump obstructed justice a clear view of the president’s most intimate moments with his lawyer.

Among them were Mr. Trump’s comments and actions during the firing of the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, and Mr. Trump’s obsession with putting a loyalist in charge of the inquiry, including his repeated urging of Attorney General Jeff Sessions to claim oversight of it. Mr. McGahn was also centrally involved in Mr. Trump’s attempts to fire the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, which investigators might not have discovered without him.


C.H. Truth said...

Roger - I will tell you the same thing I told James on the other thread.

You realize that Donald McGahn met with Mueller's team during the time when he was the main representation for Trump, and with the consent of Trump... back when it was the strategy to provide Special Counsel with most everything that they asked for.

three voluntary interviews with investigators that totaled 30 hours over the past nine months

It had been the strategy to provide all of the information to special counsel so that the President would not have to answer any questions himself and that the special counsel would be more likely to finish quickly.

There is no indication that any of these interviews have occurred recently, and if McGahn were to meet with Special Counsel outside of the consent of his client, he would likely be disbarred, and none of the testimony would be allowed in any court of law (it would be both attorney/client and executive privilege). He certainly would not still be "representing" Trump if he was somehow "flipping" on him.


Once again, the NY Times is providing "old news" as if it is "new news" and once again the gullible are fooled.

Anonymous said...

Winning.
"-year-old homeowner in Benzie County, Michigan, greeted an alleged intruder with a shotgun blast to both legs.
Up North Live reports the homeowner heard strange noises in his barn just before 11:30 pm Tuesday night. He armed himself and went to investigate.


Once inside the barn, he confronted an alleged intruder, ordering him off his property. At that point, the homeowner said the suspect allegedly came at him in a “threatening manner,” so he fired the shotgun, hitting the suspect in both legs.

The Record-Eagle reports that Benzie County Sheriff’s deputies arrived and had the 37-year-old suspect transported to Munson Medical Center: “Benzie County Sheriff Ted Schendel said [the suspect] was hit with birdshot.”

The Benzie County Sheriff’s Office indicated the suspect would be arrested once released from the hospital."

Loretta said...

"you will not have any more credibility."

Again??

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

What is wrong with Donald Trump?
Trump has always had his own way. When he was younger, his father bailed him out of every bad decision he made. Through immoral and crooked dealings he has amassed a fortune, now can afford the best attorneys to bail him out of his bd decisions. If they can’t do it, his fortune does by paying off anyone who may damage his reputation. The truth is he is like a spoiled incredibly rich kid with no moral fiber and a narcissistic personality.

Trump doesn’t care who is hurt as long as he gets his own way. And God help anyone who criticizes him. Just ask the recently fired FBI agent who made the mistake of speaking his mind.

Trump is basically a dictator. That is why he is so enamored with Putin. He idolize him and wants to be him. The sad thing is that in this supposedly democratic country, the Congress, who is supposed to protect this country from bad leadership, is so corrupt that it will do nothing about Trump but sit back and say, “It ain’t so bad”.

God help us all.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

McGahn is a critical witness in the obstruction inquiry, given his knowledge of several key moments throughout the Russia investigation.

They include:


Trump's decision to fire then FBI director James Comey.

Trump's repeated efforts to force attorney general Jeff Sessions to oversee the Russia probe after he recused himself.

Trump's reported attempts to fire Mueller.

The gullible people are those who believe that the President is being framed for crimes he did not commit.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

"if McGahn were to meet with Special Counsel outside of the consent of his client, he would likely be disbarred,"

McGhan is not Trump's lawyer. He represents the executive branch. Anything he says is not protected by the client lawyer privilege.

Anonymous said...

Roger, what crimes has the President committed?

You know right? With USCC numbers so we can be as informed as you.

Pick a few you can prove ((PART I - CRIMES (§§ 1 to 2725) · PART II - CRIMINAL PROCEDURE (§§ 3001 to 3772)).

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Your timeline pokes big holes in your comments. (back when it was the strategy to provide Special Counsel with most everything that they asked for.)

His testimony is in regards since he became the White House counsel.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

We are awaiting the final report from the investigation. Some lawyers believe that his tweets could be intimidation. On the important issue is that how he has damaged the security and law keeping infrastructure that keeps us safe from enemies both foreign and domestic.

The deep state conspiracy theorists are simply being duped by a master manipulator.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

McGahn became the special counsel to the President but he is not the President's personal lawyer. He was appointed to the job on January 20, 2017, after Mr Trump was inaugurated.

Scott, your timeline blows away your old news spin.

Anonymous said...

YOU have no idea what you're talking about.

Commonsense said...

Wonder what Mueller found out from this????

Nothing. If there was something it would have been leaked by now.

This only it tells us is that there is unprecendeted cooperation between the White House and the special counsel's office.

Which make Trump's fustration with the special counsel all that more understandable.

Commonsense said...

Well Scott this breaking News story about the White house counsel is cooperating with the Muller investigation..

Well this story had a remarkable short shelf life. After the initial hysterical headlines, it already dropped off the radar before the print edition hit the streets.

CH was right, it's recycled old news and the other outletts quickly caught on.

Anonymous said...




The White House counsel, Donald F. McGahn II, has cooperated extensively in the special counsel investigation...


and as i suspected, it's a maggie haberman story.

no wonder the alky fell for it.

oh, and it's as fucking fake as a $3 bill...

This account is based on interviews with current and former White House officials and others who have spoken to both men, all of whom requested anonymity to discuss a sensitive investigation.

A spokesman for the special counsel’s office also declined to comment for this article.



https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/18/us/politics/don-mcgahn-mueller-investigation.html


ol' maggie just makes it up as she goes along, and the imbeciles like the alky shriek "we really got him this time!!!11!"

oh, and you can always tell when the NY Times is REALLY trolling when they allow comments on a supposedly "straight news" story.


LOL.