Tuesday, December 18, 2018

Bizzarre

  • Judge Sullivan asks Flynn whether he wants to change his guilty plea in light of 302s and other new information - Flynn says no.
  • Judge Sullivan suggests that he is "puzzled" by the documents he has seen from the FBI.
  • Judge Sullivan asks Flynn if he wants to delay sentencing to consider a change to his plea - Flynn says no.
  • Judge Sullivan says he has issues accepting a guilty plea from someone who maintains he is not guilty. Says he does not want to start now. 
  • Judge Sullivan (a third time) asks if Flynn wants to withdraw his guilty plea - Flynn says no.
  • Judge Sullivan explains to Flynn that this is a serious crime that he is pleading guilty to. Flynn acknowledges as much. 
  • Judge Sullivan asks Flynn (for a second time) if he would like to delay sentencing. Sullivan provides a break for Flynn to confer with attorneys.

Eventually Flynn comes back with his attorneys and they agree to delay sentencing while they continue to "cooperate" with Special Counsel. It's clear from all reports that Flynn wanted this over today, and that the Judge seemed oddly eager to hold off and not sentence today. Why Sullivan wanted this delay appears to be somewhat of a mystery.

(although I am sure both sides will spin this like a top)

Judge Sullivan then seemed to take issue with the fact that Flynn was an "unregistered foreign agent for another country" (Turkey) and wonders if he could have been charged with Treason for being both an unregistered foreign agent and National Security Advisor at the same time. Seems like an odd segway into something one might think was immaterial to the hearing, but oddly relevant non-the-less.

Because somehow you get the impression that the unregistered foreign agent angle is exactly why Flynn is standing by his plea. Two of his associates have been charged already. This was an obvious shot across the bow, if there ever was one.

Lastly, Sullivan later apologizes for bringing up the unregistered foreign agent angle, and said he really didn't want to suggest he was accusing Flynn of "treason" and stating that he "felt terrible about that".
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UPDATE: Apparently the Washington Post led their headlines today with the story regarding associates of Flynn pleading guilty to being unregistered foreign agents (regarding Turkey). There is little reason to believe that this was a coincidence (that it was done on the day Flynn was being sentenced) or that it was a coincidence that the Judge brought it up.

Judge Sullivan later walked back his statements about Flynn "selling his country out" and possibly committing "treason" after realizing that he did not have the correct dates as to when Flynn lobbied on behalf of the Turkish Government. Flynn, in fact, was never both an agent for Turkey and National Security Advisor. It seems more than strange that Sullivan would have that mixed up. He did express regret and stated that he "felt terrible" about that exchange.

But it's clear that this weighed on the Judge (and not necessarily rightfully so). His job was to sentence Flynn (who wanted to be sentenced) within the guidelines of the sentencing. When both sides are looking for the same thing (a guilty plea with no jail time); it seems more than a bit odd that a Judge would push simultaneously for the accused to change his plea while also suggesting that he might possibly rule in favor of jail time.

71 comments:

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The judge ordered a delay in the sentencing with this comment.

Michael Flynn sentencing delayed as judge tells ex-Trump official: 'You sold your country out'

C.H. Truth said...

Sullivan advised the court not to read too much into his pre-recess questions about “treason” and said he was not accusing Flynn of anything.

“I felt terrible about that,” he said.

Anonymous said...




Judge Sullivan says he has issues accepting a guilty plea from someone who maintains he is not guilty. Says he does not want to start now.


even sullivan knows this is complete bullshit.

but look at the alky spin it to make flynn out to be a serial killer.

good job alky. a draft dodger like you having the nerve to criticize a hero like flynn. you should be very proud of yourself.

Anonymous said...

"WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration moved Tuesday to officially ban bump stocks, which allow semi-automatic weapons to fire rapidly like automatic firearms, and has made them illegal to possess beginning in late March.

The devices will be banned under a federal law that prohibits machine guns, according to a senior Justice Department official."

Why didn't Obama do this?

caliphate4vr said...

R.I.P. Laverne DeFazio AKA Penny Marshall

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Anonymous said...



'Kill yourself!': Senate Democrat's tweet targets GOP aide


ALBANY — Brooklyn state Sen. Kevin Parker, a Democrat known for his volatile temper, has landed in hot water again.

The new controversy arose after a Senate Republican press aide, Candice Giove, tweeted critically about Parker on Tuesday morning.

Parker's official state Senate Twitter feed then responded, "Kill yourself!"

[...]

Earlier this month, Parker introduced a bill that would require police to scrutinize the social media activity of handgun license applicants.

With Senate Democrats set to assume the majority next year, Parker's temper could be a headache.

His episodes of bad behavior seemed to escalate when the Senate Democrats last held the majority in 2009-2010. In May 2009, Parker was charged with attacking a New York Post photographer and was eventually stripped of a leadership position. He was convicted on a misdemeanor charge.

Also in 2009, Parker memorably called then-Gov. David Paterson a "coke-snorting, staff-banging governor" during the Senate coup crisis, not long after the executive suspended paychecks for senators during the multi-week impasse.

Parker's temper has caused him other problems, including a 2005 incident when he punched a traffic agent after being given a ticket (the charges were dropped when he agreed to take an anger management class), and a profane 2010 dispute with Democratic state Sen. Diane Savino during a closed-door conference meeting.

While those kinds of antics have dropped off in recent years, Parker raised eyebrows earlier this month at a state Business Council session, where he advised that in lobbying the ethnically diverse new Democratic majority, interest groups shouldn't "show up to a meeting with four white guys."


https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Kill-yourself-Senate-Democrat-s-tweet-targets-13475043.php


Anonymous said...



MUSKEGONMichigan business owner gives $4M in Christmas bonuses

Updated Dec 17, 12:44 PM;Posted Dec 17, 12:30 PM

Gallery: FloraCraft gives $4M in bonuses

By Justine McGuire

LUDINGTON, MI - About 200 employees of a northern Michigan manufacturer received an average $20,000 Christmas bonus.

Ludington-based FloraCraft surprised its employees during a holiday lunch on Friday, Dec. 14, when owner and Chairman Lee Schoenherr announced plans to give nearly $4 million in bonuses.

Top gifts to employees with more than 40 years of tenure will exceed $60,000, the company. The gifts are a combination of cash bonuses and 401(k) contributions.

“This idea has developed over the past year and is my way of saying ‘Thank you’ to our team for the role they have had in our success," Schoenherr 

anonymous said...


The judge offered a delay in the sentencing with this comment......., which was accepted after a short recess by flynn and his team....It was very apparent that there was going to be jail time and not just probation that they expected....Seems a second chance was given to flynn to redeem himself from that letter submitted prior to sentencing that almost looked like he was trying to change his plea......Judge is a piece of work!!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/12/18/michael-flynn-declines-to-claim-fbi-entrapment-at-sentencing-hearing/

Plagiarism

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/12/18/michael-flynn-declines-to-claim-fbi-entrapment-at-sentencing-hearing/

anonymous said...

Blogger KD said...


MUSKEGONMichigan business owner gives $4M in Christmas bonuses

And trump took credit due to tax breaks!!!!!!

anonymous said...

There is little reason to believe that this was a coincidence (that it was done on the day Flynn was being sentenced) or that it was a coincidence that the Judge brought it up.

There is no such thing as a coincidence.....Lil Scotty.....it was all part of the plan!!!!

Anonymous said...

Actually, only old goat connected the Trump Tax Cut and this massive Bonu$ story.

Anonymous said...



Boeing employees across Washington state will receive bonuses totaling nearly $600 million in the coming weeks, the largest annual bonus payout in company history.

 

By 

Dominic Gates 

Seattle Times aerospace reporter

Boeing employees across Washington state will receive bonuses totaling nearly $600 million in the coming weeks, the largest annual bonus payout in company history.

The total includes payouts to white-collar employees, Machinists on the factory floor and managers, but not executives.

Boeing’s nearly 66,000 current employees in the state will be eligible for the bonuses. More than 6,000 more who worked at least part of last year before leaving the company will get a partial bonus, prorated according to how long they worked last year."

Wow , largest payout ever.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
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anonymous said...

KD said...


Boeing employees across Washington state will receive bonus's

Hey shit for brains.....boeing employees have been getting year end bonus for the last for ever!!!! What are you trying to prove, the stock market at yearly lows is a boom????? Asshole... I believe you posted this same tripe last year.....don't you get tired of being the dumbest fuck in kansas?????

anonymous said...

Hey numb nutz....there is lots of info on line on how the yearly bonus at boing works....You should look shit up before you suck on donnie's dick while looking stupid....


https://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/news/2018/02/06/boeing-bonuses-break-down-engineers-technicians.html

anonymous said...

BTW shit for brains....boeing engineers are in a union and the bonus is part of their comp package.....

anonymous said...

Just heard some funny news....Do you know who the largest donor to the trump foundation is????

Answer...Vince McMahon...


Do you know who vince is married to???

Linda Mcmahon ....head of the small business administration....anyone see another problem for the donnie????????? LOLOLOLOL

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Do you want someone to be with you.

No

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

President Donald Trump's personal charitable foundation has agreed to dissolve under judicial supervision amid an ongoing lawsuit concerning its finances, according to a document filed Tuesday in Manhattan Supreme Court by the New York state Attorney General's office.

READ: Agreement dissolve Trump's charitable foundation
READ: Agreement dissolve Trump's charitable foundation
The dissolution of the Donald J. Trump Foundation resolves one element of the attorney general's civil lawsuit against the foundation, which includes claims that the President and his three eldest children -- Don Jr., Ivanka and Eric -- violated campaign-finance laws and abused its tax-exempt status. Rather than operating it as a genuine charity, the lawsuit alleges, they instead allowed it to be used "as little more than a checkbook to serve Mr. Trump's business and political interests."

To keep his family out of jail.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

S&P 500 closes near its low for the year in volatile session on Wall Street

Anonymous said...

Oil $45.93

Winning.
Peak oil losers.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He was not a happy man after he had read it. Here’s the LA Times:

Saying he was not “hiding my disgust, my disdain” for Flynn’s crime, U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan ripped into the retired three-star Army general in a blistering rebuke from the bench before issuing his sentence.

Noting that Flynn was an unregistered agent of a foreign country — Turkey — while in the White House, the judge angrily pointed to the furled U.S. flag in his courtroom. “Arguably, that undermines everything this flag over here stands for. Arguably, you sold your country out!” Sullivan said. “All along you were an unregistered agent of a foreign country, while serving as the national security advisor to the president of the United States!”

Pressed by the judge, Flynn’s lawyer, Robert Kelner, said, “No, your honor,” when asked if the FBI had engaged in any misconduct or had violated Flynn’s rights when they interviewed him. Kelner added that Flynn stood by his guilty plea.

And more from the Washington Post:

“The court’s going to consider that [i.e., that Flynn sold out his country],” the judge said. “I cannot assure you, if you proceed today, you will not receive a sentence of incarceration.” Sullivan also asked a prosecutor with the special counsel’s office whether Flynn could be charged with “treason.”

Flynn, standing straight and flanked by attorneys on either side, looked shaken, his jaw clenched. Sullivan declared a recess to let Flynn consider whether he wanted to proceed and let the judge impose a punishment, or to delay and cooperate more with the special counsel in hopes of leniency.

Flynn decided to delay his sentencing. Needless to say, this should put an end to all the nonsense from the Trump gang that Flynn had been fooled by the FBI and had no idea that it was illegal to lie to them:

Sullivan reminded Flynn he could get into “more trouble” if he were to lie in court, then asked, “Were you not aware that lying to FBI investigators was a crime?”

“I was aware,” Flynn said.

Anonymous said...

Alky on the juice again. 100 % .

anonymous said...

Peak oil losers.

You mean exxon, marathon etc who are taking a beating due to the low oil prices....Also losers are the strpper wells who are shutting down again....yeah goat fucker...you have a masters in bation.....idiot

Anonymous said...

2nd Generation Alky it has all been posted already.

All bullshit no cattle.

Anonymous said...

The vast majority benefit from lower oil prices. Every motorists, truckers, farmers and other. The real working class.

Odd ,your post supports BIG Oil.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Another update Scott failed to post.

Flynn pleaded guilty in Mueller’s probe of Russian interference in the 2016 election more than a year ago, admitting that he lied to the FBI about conversations with Russia’s ambassador to the United States and that he misrepresented in Justice Department documents his work to advance the interests of the Turkish government. He has since been assisting with at least three investigations — including Mueller’s — and his attorneys and the special counsel argued he should get no prison time for his offense based on his cooperation.

That now is far from a certainty.

Sullivan opened the hearing Tuesday by taking aim at the suggestion in a pre-sentence filing by Flynn’s attorneys that their client might have been fooled into lying to the FBI. Flynn’s supporters have advanced the notion in recent months that the FBI should have approached Flynn more formally, and that he should have been warned in advance that lying to federal agents would be considered a crime.


Even after the hearing, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said, “The FBI broke standard protocol in the way that they came in and ambushed General Flynn.”

The special counsel’s office had earlier rejected the allegation. “Nothing about the way the interview was arranged or conducted caused the defendant to make false statements to the FBI,” prosecutors wrote. Sullivan seemed to take up their case.

[Special counsel rejects suggestion by Flynn’s attorneys that he was misled in FBI interview]

The judge reminded Flynn he could get into “more trouble” if he were to lie in court, then asked, “Were you not aware that lying to FBI investigators was a crime?”

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

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12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.

3,365 days shut up kput'z

anonymous said...

The vast majority benefit from lower oil prices.

That's not what you posted....now you change what you meant????/ Chickenshit asshole with a fake degree....LOLOLOLOLOL

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

“Were you not aware that lying to FBI investigators was a crime?”

Flynn No.

Scott your entire argument has been destroyed.

Anonymous said...

Policymakers at the central bank will conclude a two-day meeting on Wednesday, during which they’re widely expected to raise the benchmark federal funds rate for the fourth time this year"

They have put both feet on the brakes.
IF,they raise the rates. It will be them flattening all five tires.

Anonymous said...

Old goat asks.

"now you change what you meant?"

Nope.

anonymous said...

The rate will go up .25% Your comment is a parrot of trump.....good slurper you are goat fucker

anonymous said...

Peak oil losers.

That has absolutely nothing in common with majority benefit from lower prices in this universe....try again asshole....

Anonymous said...

Without Hillary to Cheat him. Will he get his turn.
"The leftist Democracy for America political action committee that promotes impeaching President Donald Trump has released the results of a 2020 presidential race poll that shows socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) leading the field by double digits."

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The wall is going away

anonymous said...

The wall is going away

Yeah....donnie sure has round heels for a fat old white asshole.....!!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

No shut down.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I was aware your honor

Scott you have been trying to charge the FBI with a crime.

You will never be honest and admit errors.

You need medical advice.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Kput'z keeps trying to admit errors.

Or rrb too.

Anonymous said...

Lol@oldgoat

"That has absolutely nothing in common with majority benefit from lower prices in this universe...." P U grad

Lordie.

Anonymous said...

Open boarders socialist get a win.

James said...

THE ATLANTIC
Michael Flynn’s Lawyers Appear to Have Badly Miscalculated
29 mins ago

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Lawyers for retired General Michael Flynn had every reason to celebrate. They managed to get their client—who lobbied against U.S. interests while serving as a top Donald Trump–campaign surrogate; tried to undermine the Barack Obama administration’s Russia policy while still a private citizen; and, as a sitting national-security adviser, worked to conceal it all from the Justice Department—a recommendation of no jail time from the government. But they appeared to have made a last-minute miscalculation that put Flynn’s potential lenient sentence in doubt.


Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who is investigating a potential conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia, appeared to let Flynn off the hook for his crimes in exchange for his cooperation in the Russia probe and an investigation into illegal lobbying for the Turkish government that is being conducted out of the Eastern District of Virginia. Flynn is also cooperating in a third investigation, the nature of which remains unknown. Indeed, before Tuesday’s hearing, it had appeared all but certain that Flynn’s decision to assist the government early and fully would spare him jail time. But that leniency apparently wasn’t enough for Flynn’s lawyers.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott has been missing since the end of the sentencing hearing today.

Flynn said that he was not entrapped by the FBI.

He's going to hide and wait until the President gives him a new party line.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Asked directly if he continued to “accept responsibility” for his “false statements,” Flynn answered forthrightly: “I do, Your Honor.” When Flynn asked Kelner if he believes “Mr. Flynn was entrapped by the FBI,” the lawyer replied: “No, Your Honor.”

James said...

The us vs. them worldview of Netanyahu and Trump

Right now, liberal democracy across the world is under threat from the ideology of right-wing ultranationalism -- and from the demagogic leaders who promote it.

These politicians are united by their xenophobic targeting of minorities, their contempt for democratic institutions and their reliance on hatred and fear.

As pro-Israel, pro-peace Americans, we’re outraged and alarmed that the current Prime Minister of Israel and President of the United States are two of the biggest champions of this far-right worldview.

Over the past two years, Trump and Netanyahu have made no secret of their close partnership. They’re working together to undermine the Iran nuclear agreement, to promote the interests of the Israeli settlement movement and to tout their commitment to building walls and keeping out immigrants.

And they’re embracing leaders like Hungary’s Viktor Orban, Italy’s Matteo Salvini and Brazil’s Jair Bolsonaro. These demagogues represent political movements with histories of neo-fascism and anti-Semitism.

Last week, Netanyahu warmly welcomed Salvini to Israel -- and this week announced that he’ll fly to Brazil next month to celebrate Bolsonaro’s inauguration. Earlier this month, Israeli media reported that the prime minister is working with Orban’s government to provide approval to a new museum that some historians fear will whitewash Hungary’s historical role in the Holocaust.

Let’s be clear -- these outrageous alliances undermine the core values, goals and interests of our community. They seek to normalize rhetoric and policies that attack minorities, demonize diversity and silence dissent.

By standing with Trump, Orban and co., Netanyahu is providing a Jewish “stamp of approval” on exactly the kind of fear-mongering “us vs. them” worldview that has been a major threat to the Jewish people throughout history.

As I told the Washington Post last week, “By standing with the likes of Orban and Salvini, the Israeli government is ignoring the deep concerns of European Jewish leaders, and forgetting the historical lesson that any government which targets minorities and undermines liberal democracy is ultimately a threat to the Jewish people.”

At J Street, we’re determined to stand on the right side of history by fighting back against this authoritarian ultranationalism.

As an organization committed to defending Jewish and democratic values, we refuse to let Donald Trump or Benjamin Netanyahu claim to represent us as Americans or as Jews.

We refuse to accept an ideology that dehumanizes immigrants and refugees seeking safety and a better life in a new country.

We refuse to accept an ideology that categorically demonizes Palestinian people or Muslims as “terrorists” or “the enemy.”

We refuse to let the right-wing commitment to building walls and spreading hate define the future of Israel, the United States or the wider world.

Instead, we’re fighting for a different, better path. We’ve worked throughout the Trump era to build support for diplomacy, tolerance and equality.

In Congress, on the campaign trail and in our communities, J Street is empowering leaders who will stand up to Trump, Netanyahu and their far-right friends -- and who will pursue policies designed to defend democracy and defeat the rise of ultranationalism and authoritarianism.

Jeremy Ben-Ami
President, J Street
(info@jstreet.org)

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I have been thinking along those same lines since Trump was elected President.

It's not just partisanship but the very clear and present danger to our nation. We will survive but he has to go.

anonymous said...

Finally, the liar in chief gets the notoriety he soooo craves....


Morning Mix
A blind, worm-like amphibian that burrows underground has been named after Donald Trump

A London-based sustainable building company added a mop of blond hair to an image of an amphibian in the same family as the Dermophis donaldtrumpi, which it named after Donald Trump. (Matthijs Kuijpers/EnviroBuild and Al Drago/Bloomberg)
By Isaac Stanley-Becker December 19 at 4:55 AM
When President Trump announced his plan to withdraw from the Paris climate agreement last year, he said he was benching the United States in the global fight against climate change because he wanted the rest of the world to stop “laughing at us.”

“We don’t want other leaders and other countries laughing at us anymore, and they won’t be," Trump vowed from a podium in the White House Rose Garden in June 2017. "They won’t be.”

But the name of a newly discovered amphibian species reveals just how hearty a laugh critics of the president abroad are having at his expense — and on the very issue he cited as he promised to protect American dignity.

A London-based sustainable building materials company, EnviroBuild, saw a resemblance between the serpentine creature, which is nearly blind and burrows underground, and Trump, who has called the evidence of global warming a “hoax." EnviroBuild, which paid $25,000 for the naming rights at an auction this month, said on Tuesday that it chose “Dermophis donaldtrumpi” in recognition of the president’s position on climate change. The announcement came on the heels of a weekend agreement by climate negotiators in Poland on the rules for implementing the Paris pact, which Trump sees as counter to U.S. national interests.

anonymous said...

Tucker Carlson is just as fucked as trump with more sponsors abandoning him and FOX news.....The no spin zone is spinning into oblivion as it should!!!! The all douche network, all the time....Amazing how the network got bitch slapped yesterday by a Reagan appointed judge...all those conspiracy that flynn was ambushed was crammed so far up their asses, it came out of their mouth!!!! I'm sure our esteemed host who supported the BULLSHIT will apologize for his stupidity....So sad....!!!!

Commonsense said...

From Sullivan's behavior, it's pretty obvious that he is deeply offended by the way Mueller is conducting this investigation.

It is also pretty obvious he's powerless to do anything about it.

This is the republic's worst nightmare, an all powerful, unelected, and unaccountable bureaucrat.

Anonymous said...

This is the republic's worst nightmare, an all powerful, unelected, and unaccountable bureaucrat.


and flynn knows this better than anyone at this point. mueller and the FBI ruined him, and they're not done yet. and the alky is so fucking stupid he cannot understand why flynn is not willing to address and criticize what the FBI has really done to him.

anonymous said...

that he is deeply offended by the way Mueller is conducting this investigation.

That's what you came away with cramps....HE BLASTED FLYNN AND HIS IDIOTIC LAWYERS.....The reagan appointee was a hero to you idiots when he overturned Ted Stevens issue and now he makes a ruling for a general who lied to you and the US....took money from a foreign govmt while working for the future POTUS is just beyond the pale.....So sad the trump worm has infested your brain as your skanky ass was stripped yesterday by a judge who saw justice and was appalled at this great man's indiscretions that are hard for him to forgive......LOLOLOLOL

Anonymous said...




Jeremy Ben-Ami

i know many liberal jews but none so disgusting that they celebrate the death of israelis at the hands of hamas and hezbollah.

if this clown was alive during WW II he would've been a kapo like soros.

anonymous said...

mueller and the FBI ruined him,

No rat, his lying ruined him, nothing else....He was the consummate intel guy in the services and his lawyers say he did not know!!!! That's like you pleading ignorance when caught speeding by radar.....sad....

Commonsense said...

Marc Thiessen: The Mueller probe could turn out to be a disaster – for the Democrats

Impeachment would not only raise Trump's approval with the very suburban voters Democrats just peeled away from the GOP in the 2018 midterms, but it would also energize his base as never before. Trump's supporters knew about his affairs and shady business dealings in 2016. They knew about the "Access Hollywood" tape, where he bragged about grabbing women by their private parts. They knew he boasted about ogling Miss Universe contestants as they were getting dressed and publicly fat-shamed a Miss Universe winner for gaining weight. They knew about the evidence that students were ripped off by the for-profit Trump University (which was not actually a university). They knew that he has been credibly accused of using his charity, the Trump Foundation, to self-deal, including using $258,000 from its coffers to settle legal disputes. They knew about the bankruptcy of his Atlantic City casinos and the allegations that he failed to pay workers and contractors.

They knew all this -- and voted for him anyway. Impeaching him over pre-presidential conduct unrelated to Russia would be seen by Trump voters as an effort to invalidate their votes. It would be received in Trump country as nothing short of an attempted coup. That could provoke a massive backlash. Just as the Democrats' campaign to destroy Brett Kavanaugh cost them the chance to take back the Senate in 2018, a campaign to impeach Trump could very well cost them the chance to take back the presidency in 2020.

In other words, Democrats hoping that the Mueller probe will be Trump's undoing could find it is their own undoing instead.


It could very well be, but the TDS left will be happy in the ruins of electoral disaster.

Anonymous said...

Old crazy uncle Joey.

"Former Vice President Joe Biden told The Intercept that “anybody can beat” President Donald Trump in 2020’s forthcoming presidential election, offering his impromptu remarks on December 5 while departing from the Lantos Foundation’s 10th Anniversary Gala in Washington, DC."

I hear he is a Earth First guy.

Anonymous said...

Run crazy uncle Joe.

"Earlier in December, Biden described himself as “the most qualified person” in America to be president while speaking at the University of Montana.

“I’ll be as straight with you as I can” said Biden. “I think I’m the most qualified person in the country to be president. The issues that we face as a country today are the issues that have been in my wheelhouse, that I’ve worked on my whole life."

Really, he just admitted he has failed his whole life to solve problems.

Anonymous said...



Impeaching him over pre-presidential conduct unrelated to Russia would be seen by Trump voters as an effort to invalidate their votes. It would be received in Trump country as nothing short of an attempted coup. That could provoke a massive backlash.


the quickest and most direct way to turn our cold civil war into a hot one is for this coup to succeed.

that's the thing about liberals - they never ever consider the consequences of their actions.


Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
“Were you not aware that lying to FBI investigators was a crime?”

Flynn No.

Scott your entire argument has been destroyed.



by who, alky?

certainly not you. stealing someone else's opinions to win an argument is not how it works, alky.

i do think it's interesting that a traitorous draft dodger such as yourself would take such glee and satisfaction from flynn's destruction. the guy's a hero and patriot.

that encapsulates and illustrates the sum of your existence, alky.

well done.

anonymous said...

"Earlier in December, Biden described himself as “the most qualified person” i

Certainly the most qualified and tempered that I have seen....will he run....too old IMHO.. Compared to trump.....a great humanitarian......oh well, goat fucker....we know where you stand...LOL

anonymous said...


by who, alky?

THE TRUTH AND NOT BIZARRE CONSPIRACY THEORIES TRUMP AND LIL SCOTTY ADVOCATED sad you just don't see it, but not that it surprises me....LOL

anonymous said...

Commonsense said...
Marc Thiessen: The Mueller probe could turn out to be a disaster – for the Democrats

And pigs like Sarah Huckabee can learn to fly.....

Anonymous said...

The vast majority benefit from lower oil prices. Every motorists, truckers, farmers and other. The real working class.

Odd ,old goat post supports BIG Oil.

Anonymous said...

"Earlier in December, Biden described himself as “the most qualified person” 77 years old.

Front runner BERNIE Sanders is 77 years old.

anonymous said...

KD said...
The vast majority benefit from lower oil prices

That's your tax cut according to the asshole in chief....And for a pig like you are driving, a land barge ford ....you can rest comfortably with your vast savings on your gas hog....GOOD FOR YOU!!!!

Anonymous said...

Troll, you are too stupid.

You called gas prices at 2.75 a tax nullified.

Please keep your lies straight.

anonymous said...


You called gas prices at 2.75 a tax nullified.

Why do you lie, goat fucker ?????? Keep peddling backwards in that gas guzzling POS you drive....LOL