Certainly it appears that he gave up way more than he got. He provides the Short term reopening of the Government and basically got no money for his border barrier in return. At least in the short term, he blinked. He caved.
What he announced is that a group of Congresspeople (both House and Senate, both Republicans and Democrats) will set up a conference that will work with the Department of Homeland Security and Border Control Agency to come up with a plan of action.
He does know that the Department of Homeland Security and Border Control Agency will back him on the border barrier. There is no question that the "experts" in border control will be in support of the barrier.
So Trump blinked. But he now puts the pressure on Pelosi and the Democrats (who kept promising the Americans that they would be willing to negotiate once the Government is up and running) to follow through on their promise to negotiate.
The question becomes what happens in this committee and what happens over the next three weeks. If we come to the end of the three weeks, and we are no closer to an overall agreement on a permanent end to the shutdown... then what happens?
Unless I am mistaken, there will not be a second shutdown. I just don't think that anyone will have the stomach for that. Trump declares a national emergency? Looks to find another way to fund the wall? These options seems way more plausible than another shut down.
Either way... this is gambit that the President is likely going to lose. His best chance of winning was to stick to his guns now. In a better system of government, where you could trust that members of both Parties would actually negotiate in good faith, then this might be a good move.
But we all know that the Democrats asking for the Government to reopen before negotiating, was not an honest proposal. They are not going to negotiate in good faith, as they likely believe (as I do) that there will be no second shutdown. Pelosi and gang knew that if they got the temporary reopening, that they would ultimately prevail.
Unless Trump has something else up his sleeve, he got rolled. Likely by members of his own Party who pretend to have more faith in the process than they should. No wall. No reelection. Blue wave in 2020. Pretty straight forward.
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It's a cave or a strategic retreat.
We'll find out in three weeks.
Trump announces deal for government to reopen for three weeks, ending longest shutdown; no money for his border wall
Anne Coulter will be SO angry. He was elected to build the wall and have Mexico pay for it.
He was not betrayed by the congressional Republicans. They have been getting hammered by the news coverage of the people who have been working without pay.
It's not a strategic retreat he caved in.
No wall. No reelection. Blue wave in 2020. Pretty straight forward.
NEW COLUMN IS POSTED! BREAK GROUND, NOT PROMISES
https://t.co/yOTZERmTfX
Ann Coulter
No new post on Coulter
He caved. He caved BIG TIME.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-announces-deal-for-government-to-reopen-for-three-weeks-ending-longest-shutdown-no-money-for-his-border-wall/ar-BBSJ8Xe?ocid=spartandhp
Poll: Majority of Americans hold Trump and Republicans responsible for shutdown
President Trump speaks about tariffs on Jan. 24 in the Cabinet Room of the White House. (Jacquelyn Martin/AP)
By Scott Clement and
David Nakamura January 25 at 1:30 PM
Public disapproval of President Trump has swelled five points to 58 percent over three months as a majority of Americans continue to hold him and congressional Republicans most responsible for the partial federal government shutdown, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.
In addition, more than 1 in 5 Americans say they have been personally inconvenienced by the record-long shutdown, which reached the five-week mark Friday amid reports of turmoil at airports, slowdowns at the Internal Revenue Service and growing public pain as 800,000 federal workers, and many government contractors, go without pay.
Congressional leaders were scrambling Friday to break the impasse after a pair of legislative bills to reopen the government were defeated in the Senate a day earlier.
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He has been trying to figure out how to be the President of the United States.
He has not succeeded.
Good news for George Herbert Walker Bush: As of today, he is no longer the biggest wimp ever to serve as President of the United States.
Coulter
CH: '...he got rolled. Likely by members of his own Party who pretend to have more faith in the process than they should. No wall. No reelection. Blue wave in 2020. Pretty straight forward."
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Nicely put, Ch.
"Likely," members of his own party stood up to him. When will you?
Well, vacation Barbie Polosi now has to accutaully deliver a signable bill.
She promised she would deliver.
Hell, Trump even gave her and Chuck an extra week to get r done.
I think its more strategic.
One, he gets to say that he tried everything else before he goes national emergency.
Two, he forces pelosi to go ahead with the SOTU because the govt is now open. He wants her to sit there on camera in front of the world and listen to him. That would be very strong optics.
i don't think he caved. chuckles and mini-stroke the feckless cunt have 3 weeks to put up or shut up.
then trump declares emergency, takes $$$ from pentagon budget, and construction begins.
he needs to start showing democrats the back of his hand like they've been showing him.
fuck 'em.
I went home with a waitress the way I always do
How was I to know she was with the russians, too? Warren Zevon
Robert Mueller will indict him, Trump -Russian
One, he gets to say that he tried everything else before he goes national emergency.
Two, he forces pelosi to go ahead with the SOTU because the govt is now open.
both good points. however, i expect democrats to start judge shopping TODAY for an injunction to stop trump from declaring an emergency. that will be the extent of their contribution to this process.
Intresting take from DC McAllister:
When you’re stuck at an impasse over something in which people are getting hurt, it is noble to walk away. When the other side is willing to split the baby, they are the ones revealing their evil intentions and malice toward those who are hurting. Trump didn’t split the baby.
I sure it will still feel like a loss, and the media and liberals Democrats like James and Roger will still gloat but it is reveling of Trump's nobility and the Democrats evil malice.
Trump Finally Agrees to End Shutdown
President Trump “announced a deal with congressional leaders to temporarily reopen the government while talks continue on his demand for border wall money, handing Democrats a major victory in the protracted standoff,” the Washington Post reports.
“The pact would reopen shuttered government departments for three weeks while leaving the issue of $5.7 billion for the U.S.-Mexico border wall to further talks.
“If a ‘fair deal’ does not emerge by Feb. 15,
Trump said, there could be another government shutdown*
or he could declare a national emergency**
a move that could allow him to direct the military to build the wall without congressional consent. Such an action would
likely face an immediate legal challenge.”'
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*Over his party's dead body. Ain't gonna happen.
**Another bad move, maybe even worse.
Jim Acosta is angry because the deal just pushed Roger Stone off the top of the page. Lol
Nobility.
Best laugh of the day.
If you ever accuse me of cognitive dissonance, you should look at rrb.
mini-stroke the feckless cunt
The President is nobility
Ball in the hands of Chuck n Nancy.
Don't fumble.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
The President is nobility
Suprising admission coming from you Roger.
Alky, are you kidding.
You're trying to be a word COP.
Next up, The President of the United States giving the State of the Union Speech.
So the Democrats have the border security of the United State of America in their hands. They got what they asked for, now van they deliver?
BuzzFeed insiders say the company has axed its entire national security, healthcare and national desks as part of layoffs announced this week
Because they were doing such an outstanding job.
Like, Kmart, Sears and soon jcpenny.
When you’re stuck at an impasse over something in which people are getting hurt, it is noble to walk away. When the other side is willing to split the baby, they are the ones revealing their evil intentions and malice toward those who are hurting. Trump didn’t split the baby.
Blogger Commonsense said...
BuzzFeed insiders say the company has axed its entire national security, healthcare and national desks as part of layoffs announced this week
Because they were doing such an outstanding job.
and in other media related news - that shrine to media asshattery - the newseum - just got sold to johns hopkins and will close at the end of 2019.
heh.
He caved because of this....
President Trump Job Approval ABC News/Wash Post Approve 38, Disapprove 58 Disapprove +20
Sucks to be a righty....you agree yet very Lil Scotty?
BuzzFeed insiders say the company has axed its entire
Maybe Faux news will be next with coulter and rushbo leading the way!!!!
President Trump is giving the Democrats a fair chance to show they actually care about the #BorderCrisis.
If Dems do not step up to the plate and do the right thing, I have zero doubt our POTUS will do whatever is necessary to secure our border.
The Dems own this mess.
@steph93065
I’m not watching the news but I’m certain they are pointing out how the President is the only one that has made any move to negotiate, made any concessions whatsoever and who appears to care even one iota about the crisis on our border
I’m not watching the news but I’m certain they are pointing out how the President is the only one that has made any move to negotiate
Suggest you come out of your coma and flick on the news.....asshole
The Dems own this mess.
Last Poll.....trump minus 20!!!!!! 38% approval which points to a new nadir of idiots!!!!
Polls change. And if the Democrats overplay their hand it could turn on them.
Surprisingly and to her credit Pelosi played her win right down the middle.
Schumer turned out to be the smuck.
The Godfather II
Friday appeared to be shaping up as a normal day for Roger Stone as the clock ticked past midnight: He was promoting recent media appearances and attacking former colleague Jerome Corsi on his social media accounts.
Hours later, FBI agents would be knocking on his door and he'd be heading to a courtroom to face an indictment on a myriad of charges from special counsel Robert Mueller.
CNN compiled Stone's activities from the 72 hours before his arrest based on a review of his social media accounts and media appearances. He spent most of that time pushing the same message -- his former colleagues and acquaintances who had spoken to special counsel Robert Mueller were liars and traitors, he was an innocent man and that he was standing behind President Donald Trump.
So the Democrats have the border security of the United State of America in their hands. They got what they asked for, now can they deliver?
They have to put together a total bill that includes wall funding near the 5 Billion mark. They can included some DACA extension.
They have to convince their US Senators and US Representatives to vote for it.
You own it,
. They got what they asked for, now can they deliver?
Never a question about that...Only unemployed goat fuckers with no brains have promoted D's don't want border security...Me thinks it will wind up more than the 5.7 billion.....in spite of you being an ignorant fuck....
Democrats overplay their hand it could turn on them.
And trump could lose 50 lbs.....possible but unlikely....LOL
Any one see what Wray had to say???? And he's a trump appointee!!!!
Schumer says he hopes Trump learned his lesson. What an asshole.
Pelosi played her win right down the middle.
Ain't that great cramps.... a little 98 pound grand ma kicked the fat old white mans ass into next week....Me thinks it won't happen again....
I love the gloating, premature though it is
I love the gloating, premature though it is
BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Premature like you ejaculating whenever trump tweets?????
Dopie is thinking about my Johnson. Enjoy your fantasy.
Vacation Barbie Polosi is still holding up the SOTUS, why?
$5.7 Billion is Dennis number for the wall. Wow. The Democrats rock.
21 days out, we will see.
The dealmaker caved.
President Donald Trump on Friday sought a meek end to the government shutdown he famously said he would own, on terms Democrats demanded from the start.
It was a stark acknowledgment of political failure by a president who claims to never back down. The border wall he built his campaign on is all but gone as a realistic prospect now – crumbling along with the façade that Trump’s sheer force of personality could bend Washington to his will.
Appearing in the White House Rose Garden Friday afternoon, Trump said he was celebrating “a deal.” But it was telling that he stood alone, as he surrendered by accepting the same offer Democrats put on the table weeks ago.
ABC fake news
Schumer says he hopes Trump learned his lesson.
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There are so many lessons Trump has failed to learn about being an effective President that it's doubtful he can learn anything now.
You don't disrespect the people's House.
As the old saying goes, be careful what you ask for.
Pelosi Won, Trump Lost
Alex Wagner: “Trump has intersected with powerful women before—Hillary Clinton, most notably—and showed little hesitation to diminish and demean. But Pelosi, who once joked to me she eats nails for breakfast, is a ready warrior. She is happy to meet the demands of war, whereas Clinton was reluctant, semi-disgusted, and annoyed to be dragged to the depths that running against Trump demanded.
“The speaker of the House is, technically, a coastal elite from San Francisco, but she was trained in the hurly burly of machine politics of Baltimore by her father, Mayor Thomas D’Alessandro. It is not a coincidence that Pelosi has managed, over and over, to vanquish her rivals in the challenges for Democratic leadership: she flocks to the fight, not just because she usually wins, but apparently, because she likes it.”
...AND by the way, Donald...
Pelosi Says State of the Union ‘Not Planned’
Speaker Nancy Pelosi said that just because the federal government is expected to fully reopen soon does not necessarily mean the State of the Union address will take place next week, CNN reports.
Said Pelosi: “The State of the Union is not planned now. What I said to the President is when the government is open we will discuss a mutually agreeable date, and I’ll look forward to doing that and welcoming the President to the House of Representatives for the State of the Union when we agree on that.”
...you will come when I say come...
Nancy is this:
"Power tends to corrupt and absolutepower corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority: still more when you superadd the tendency or the certainty of corruption by authority."
So Trump will not be re-elected.
Only one problem , which Socialist can beat him?
Trump is "the biggest wimp ever to serve as President of the USA," according to Anne Coulter.
White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders refused Friday to deny that President Trump was the person who directed a 'senior' official on his campaign to contact Roger Stone urging him to get stolen emails from WikiLeaks.
Unless Trump has something else up his sleeve, he got rolled. Likely by members of his own Party who pretend to have more faith in the process than they should. No wall. No reelection. Blue wave in 2020. Pretty straight forward.
If the Democrats are that dumb (and they are) they just handed Trump an issue that will again expand him from his base and handily win the moderates in 2020.
If they're smart they will make a deal with some wall funding to take the issue away from him.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP:
So let me be very clear, we really have no choice but to build a powerful wall or steel barrier . If we don't get a fair deal from Congress, the government will either shut down on February 15 again or I will use the powers afforded to me under the laws in the Constitution of the United States to address this emergency. We will have great security and I want to thank you all very much. Thank you very much.
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Want to know what he's really saying?
3 weeks.
Clocks ticking.
Next shutdown on the Dems.
Or Trump starts wall
Pretty simple though too complicated for TDS victims
Yeah, he's going to build the wall.
Looks like Schumer/Pelosi are waving their Mission Accomplished banners
Trump will take care of that
ROFLMFAO !!!
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: WHAT HE'S REALLY SAYING:
So let me be very clear, we really have no choice but to build a powerful wall or steel barrier BECAUSE I SAY WE HAVE NO CHOICE EVEN THOUGH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT AGREE OR WANT A USELESS MEDIEVAL WALL. BUT I SAY THAT if we don't get a fair deal from Congress, THAT IS TO SAY, ONE THAT I ALONE REGARD AS FAIR, the government will either shut down on February 15 again ALTHOUGH MY COWARDLY GOP ADVISERS ARE BEGGING ME NOT TO HARM THE PARTY FURTHER BY DOING THAT, or I will use the powers afforded to me under the laws in the Constitution of the United States to address this emergency AND I WILL DO THAT NO MATTER WHAT THE COURTS. OR THE HOUSE, OR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SAY. We will have WHAT I REGARD AS great security BECAUSE YOU SEE I AM A GREAT PRESIDENT AND AM SMARTER THAN ANYONE ELSE BECAUSE I USED TO KEEP A COPY OF MEIN KAMP BESIDE MY BED. AND I WANT TO THINK YOU ALL VERY MUCH AHEAD OF TIME FOR CAVING IN TO ME.
TO THANK YOU ALL
Fake pastor is acting very ungodly again.
Every trump voter in America will be very pissed off if pelosi still blocks the SOTU. They will declare war on her and the intolerant dems.
The President just signed the bill that had already passed unopposed. Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter have exploded.
Late Friday night, President Donald Trump signed a bill passed by Congress that officially reopens the federal government for three weeks while lawmakers negotiate border security funding with the president -- ending the longest government shutdown in U.S. history.
"I am very proud to announce today that we have reached a deal to end the shutdown and reopen the federal government," Trump said earlier on Friday, in a surprise development that thrilled hundreds of thousands of federal workers that have been toiling without pay for more than a month.
The bill passed by Congress, sources told ABC News, includes no funding for the president’s long-sought border wall.
The president said earlier on Friday that while has decided not to declare a national emergency at this time, he has the ability to do so if members of Congress do not work on a deal for border security.
The Trump voters are about 37% of likely voters. CHT has actually made a rare and unusual case that the President has been crushed.
Blue Wave in 2020.
The White House and Senate Democrats will be in charge for the first time since 2008.
Lon Hoops an old friend from high school in Rapid City South Dakota.
Congress sent legislation to President Trump on Friday to temporarily reopen the government, ending the longest shutdown in history while handing Democrats a major political victory in the protracted standoff.
The House unanimously approved the bill hours after the Senate backed the measure by voice vote. Trump was expected to sign the bill into law.
The pact, announced by Trump from the Rose Garden at the White House, would reopen shuttered government departments for three weeks while leaving the issue of $5.7 billion for a U.S.-Mexico border wall to further talks.
Trump said that a congressional conference committee would spend the next three weeks working in a bipartisan fashion to come up with a border security package.
This is the same bill that could have been signed and no shut down at a cost of 200 million a day.
He didn't add that the government shutdown cost more than his fucking wall.
LaGuardia shut down. Dems didn't care. Trump did. Which is the real leader.
Alky enjoy this moment.
As I am.
Socialist now lead by Polosi and Schumer must deliver the votes in 21 days and place a bill on Pres. Trumps desk without, here me without the President lifting a finger.
Let me help the cut n paste drag queen.
The President is out of the Negotiations . You won, YEP. Won Biggly. It is up to Chuck in Nancy to get a bill passed in both chambers and to the President.
Got it?
"President Polosi" cnn
Total days of shutdown: 35 days
Total money for border wall: $0
President Wimp
Trump originated the government shutdown. LaGuardia is his fault.
He insisted on getting his campaign promises at any cost.
BREITBART
SHUTDOWN CEASEFIRE……WHERE’S WALL, DOE?ROGER STONEMICROSOFT/NEWSGUARD BLACKLISTCARACAS CHAOS
Coulter: Gutless President in Wall-Less Country
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19 Dec 201815,004
3:07
If you were elected president after decades of politicians doing nothing about the millions of illegals pouring into our country every year, committing crimes, dealing drugs, driving drunk, molesting children and killing Americans like Kate Steinle, and your central campaign promise — repeated every day — was to build a wall, wouldn’t you have spent the entirety of your transition period working on getting it done?
Wouldn’t you have been building prototypes, developing relationships with key congressional allies and talking to military leaders about using the Seabees or the Army Corps of Engineers to build the wall?
Wouldn’t you skip the inauguration and take the oath of office in San Diego so you could get started on supervising wall construction immediately after putting your hand on the Bible and being sworn in as the leader of the free world?
You would if you meant it.
Well, Donald Trump didn’t do that.
OK, sure he could have taken the oath in D.C., gone to a few balls, then started the wall on day two of his presidency. But he didn’t do that either.
Maybe I’m a literalist. A zealot. When people kept telling me to be patient — the wall is coming! — I nursed a private hope that I was wrong, and they were right.
It is now crystal clear that one of two things is true: Either Trump never intended to build the wall and was scamming voters all along, or he has no idea how to get it done and zero interest in finding out.
He sacrifices every opportunity to make the wall happen.
For two years, Trump pretended to believe the president of the United States needs express authorization from Congress to defend the nation’s borders and blamed the Republican majority for not “funding” the wall.
In a few weeks, he’ll start blaming the Democratic House.
Last week — several whole days ago — Trump said over and over again that he would shut down the government if he didn’t get funding for the wall — the precise thing he claims he needs. “We need border security. The wall is a part of border security,” he said. “If we don’t have border security, we’ll shut down the government.”
Trump wore the shutdown over the wall as a badge of honor: “You want to know something? OK, you want to put that on me. I’ll take it. You know what I’ll say? Yes, if we don’t get what we want … I will shut down the government. Absolutely.”
One week later, The Drudge Report:
WALL FUNDING OFF TABLE
In other words, Trump is doing exactly what I feared he would do in the worst conceivable way. He’s not building the wall, while making ridiculous promises right up until the second before he folds.
The Washington Post loves to find the one crazy, trailer park lady who supports Trump because she’s had religious ecstasies about him, but most people who voted for him did so with a boatload of qualms.
The basic factory setting on the perception of Trump is: gigantic douchebag. This is a man who manufactured fake Time magazine covers featuring himself with the headline, “Donald Trump: The ‘Apprentice’ is a television smash!” so that he could put framed copies of it on the walls of his clubs.
His business is convincing people with lowbrow taste to give him their money.
He’s a vulgar publicity hound who used to call reporters in a fake voice and pretend to be his own PR agent, “John Miller” or “John Barron,” so he could brag that actresses wanted to date him.
On one “Apprentice” episode, the reward for the winning team was: to see Trump’s apartment. Not to eat there or spend the night. They got to see it. “As a little treat,” he said, “you’re gonna see the nicest apartment in New York City.” He added: “I show this apartment to very few people. Presidents, kings …”
It’s not as if a majority of his voters weren’t clear-eyed about what kind of man he is. If anything, Trump’s vulgar narcissism made his vow to build a wall more believable. Respectable politicians had made similar promises over the years — and they always betrayed the voters. Maybe it took a sociopath to ignore elite opinion and keep his word.
On the basis of his self-interest alone, he must know that if he doesn’t build the wall, he has zero chance of being re-elected and a 100 percent chance of being utterly humiliated.
But when Trump is alone with Ivanka, they seem to agree that the wall has nothing to do with it. The people just love him for who he is! In a country of 320 million people, I’m sure there are some, but I have yet to meet a person who said, Yeah, I don’t really care about immigration or trade, I just love his personality!
What else were we going to do? He was the only one talking sense. Unfortunately, that’s all he does: talk. He’s not interested in doing anything that would require the tiniest bit of effort.
In the end, we’ll probably find out “wall” was Trump’s “safe word” with Stormy Daniels. It’s just something he blurts out whenever he’s in trouble.
He’s in trouble now. As absurd as the Russia nonsense is, the details about Trump’s sleazy associates, the porn star, the Playboy playmate and his seedy business practices leave his supporters feeling queasy, even if he hasn’t committed any crimes.
Instead of joining a fight that will make his most ardent supporters cringe no matter how it comes out, why not choose a battleground where he’s guaranteed a win? If Trump used the military to build the wall — actually build it, not keep telling us he’s going to build it — the Democrats will go mad.
They’ll hold impeachment hearings, file a million lawsuits, produce weeping children reading from phony scripts written by immigrant rights groups — and Trump will win. The public will support Trump overwhelmingly, and the left will be forced to keep reminding voters why they hate Democrats.
Instead, what he’s doing now absolutely guarantees that the next president will be a Democrat and, given today’s Democratic Party, that president will be Kamala Harris.
COPYRIGHT 2018 ANN COULTER
It’s not as if a majority of his voters weren’t clear-eyed about what kind of man he is. If anything, Trump’s vulgar narcissism made his vow to build a wall more believable. Respectable politicians had made similar promises over the years — and they always betrayed the voters. Maybe it took a sociopath to ignore elite opinion and keep his word.
On the basis of his self-interest alone, he must know that if he doesn’t build the wall, he has zero chance of being re-elected and a 100 percent chance of being utterly humiliated.
Ann Coulter and Scott J*********** agree with me.
Chris Hayes, on Friday night's 'All In':
In a presidency that's had its fair share of low points, both morally and politically, today has to be one of the worst: The president backing down in total humiliation from a fight that he himself started, conceding to end the record-setting government shutdown that he engineered to extort funding for his border wall. In the face of united opposition from Democrats in Congress, and the beginnings of a full-scale labor uprising within the nation's aviation system, the president and his party accepted defeat, agreeing to reopen the government without wall funding.
After the longest shutdown in U.S. history, hundreds of thousands of federal workers will now be able to return to their jobs and collect back pay for their unpaid work. And that includes the FBI agents who showed up Friday morning in military-style gear, before the break of dawn, to arrest the president's oldest political adviser, Roger Stone, at his home in Florida.
Special Counsel Robert Mueller indicted Stone on 7 counts of lying to Congress, obstruction and witness tampering in an attempted cover-up of Stone's efforts to get dirt on Hillary Clinton from Wikileaks in 2016.
The worst day of the Presidency of Donald J. Trump.
It's not the last time this President will have. Special Counsel Robert Mueller is expected to release his report within 60 days or so. I hope we can all see what he's found.
Nice touch.
"Earlier in the evening, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi signed the bill with eight pens in a public ceremony and gave the pens as souvenirs to her House Democratic colleagues."
Very classy.
He'll declare national emergency bin three weeks. What's the bet he uses eight pens to do it?
9, one up " pres.polosi" CNN
The Three Stooges of CHT are sure Trump losses in 2020.
Which Socialist can beat Trump?
I see Bernie Sanders is in.
The Three Stooges of CHT are sure Trump losses in 2020
We can all hope goat fucker....like you pray he is not tossed in jail!!!!!
He'll declare national emergency bin three weeks
Which will be stopped by the courts and voters....!!!
Poll has 89% against declaring emergency.....idiot
"5.7 Billion" for wall so said Denise
20 days , tic tock.
You have the ball, can ya score?
Which Socialist can beat Trump?
Think this will have a positive impact on GDP? Goat fucker? Who cares what D runs other than moronic assholes like you!!
Business
U.S. economy lost at least $6 billion to government shutdown: S&P
Reuters Reuters 12 hours ago
FILE PHOTO - A woman walks by the U.S. Capitol is on day 32 of a partial government shutdown as becomes the longest in U.S. history in Washington, U.S., January 22, 2019. REUTERS/Carlos Barria
(Reuters) - The U.S. economy lost at least $6 billion during the partial shutdown of the federal government due to lost productivity from furloughed workers and economic activity lost to outside business, S&P Global Ratings said on Friday.
President Donald Trump agreed on Friday to end the 35-day partial shutdown, the longest in history, without getting the $5.7 billion he had demanded from Congress for a border wall.
"American homeowners are looking to spend an average of nearly $7,000 on their homes in the next 3 months — and it's good news for Home Depot ..." Business Insider
Too bad the goat fucker wasn't playing this game....
St. Louis cop charged in Russian Roulette shooting death of fellow officer, police say
USA TODAY Aamer Madhani,USA TODAY 8 hours ago
St. Louis Police Officer Katlyn Alix, 24, was fatally wounded by a colleague on Thursday by a fellow officer who mishandled a firearm, police said.
A St. Louis police officer was charged with manslaughter Friday for allegedly shooting a colleague as the two played Russian Roulette, authorities said.
Officer Nathaniel Hendren, 29, shot Officer Katlyn Alix, 24, in his apartment in the city’s Carondelet neighborhood early Thursday in the presence of a third officer, police said.
I own 2 homes and have no such plans....me thinks your double wide is not repairable....LOLLOLOL
6 Billion x 12 months = $72 Billion Dollars
Wow, that is news. That those Federal workers create that much wealth .
That those Federal workers create that much wealth .
You really are a dumber fuck than I can ever imagine....Seems to me these people work unlike you who trolls like the asshole he wants to be....
From today's Times
What a debacle President Trump’s shutdown proved to be — what a toddler’s pageant of foot-stomping and incompetence, of vainglory and self-defeat. Mr. Trump tormented public servants and citizens and wounded the country, and, in conceding on Friday after holding the government hostage for 35 days, could claim to have achieved nothing.
He succeeded only in exposing the emptiness of his bully’s bravado, of his “I alone can fix it” posturing. Once upon a time, Mr. Trump promised that Mexico would pay for a wall. He instead made all Americans pay for a partisan fantasy.
Maybe you want a wall. Can you possibly argue that Mr. Trump’s shutdown strategy advanced your cause? He made the right decision on Friday — to sign a bill reopening the government through Feb. 15, giving lawmakers time to reach a permanent deal. But he could have had this same outcome without a shutdown. He ultimately agreed to the sort of bill that Democrats have been pitching for weeks — one that contains not one dollar in wall funding.
In his announcement, the president struggled to obscure his failure with yet another rambling infomercial about the glory of walls. “No matter where you go, they work,” he said (raising the question of how you can get there if, in fact, there’s a wall in your way). He had nothing of substance to offer beyond the usual specious claims that only his wall can end the border flood of drugs, crime and migrant women who have been duct-taped and stuffed into vans by human traffickers. To repeat: Fewer border-crossing apprehensions were made in 2017 than at any time since 1971; drugs are overwhelmingly smuggled through established points of entry; and the only crisis at the border is a humanitarian one, of people fleeing violence and seeking asylum — again, mostly at established points of entry — under international law
The lies keep piling up and you all keep slurping away..
The claim that a wall would lead to a huge decrease in crime is not supported by statistics. Construction of a wall would not suddenly remove millions of undocumented immigrants already in the United States, and there is no evidence of a causal link between immigration and crime. As for drugs, 90 percent of heroin coming into the United States enters through the southern border. But it is mostly smuggled through legal ports of entry and not wall-less areas. Most Fentanyl arrives in the United States from China through the mail.
New York has pass one of the most ghoulish abortion laws in the world. Include being able the kill the baby up to the moment of birth.
According to promimate OB/Gym there is not medical reason ever to abort a baby in the third trimester. Deliver the baby but not abort.
The only diffrence between delivery and abortion in the tri-mester is that you kill the baby with a leather injection prior to delivering.
In fact if they already sold the baby for parts then they take particular they deliver the dead baby intact.
Cuomo is going to burn in hell.
The worst day of the Presidency of Donald J. Trump
Yes, it is. But you're putting a lot of faith the special counsel's report is going to say what you hope it will when there not a lot to indicate that it will.
and there is no evidence of a causal link between immigration and crime
Kate Stienlie was unavailable for comment.
putting a lot of faith the special counsel's report is going to say
No one has a clue other than mueller to where it is going....but it sure is getting close and me thinks junior will be the next in the barrel ,,,,funny how brave stone is facing 20 + years by smirking....I guess he knows the pardon is coming....another travesty of justice.....
there is not medical reason ever to abort a baby in the third trimester.
NOW YOU ARE A FUCKING DOCTOR CRAMPS????? I say your claim is full of shit as usual...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tarahaelle/2016/10/20/no-late-term-abortions-dont-rip-babies-out-of-wombs-but-they-are-needed/#1edf5f435cf8
NOW YOU ARE A FUCKING DOCTOR CRAMPS?????
No I was repeating what prominate OB/GYN's were saying. Do learn how to read.
And as far as you link is concern, the author never gets around to the disputing the contention that therapeutically, there is no diffrence to the mother if the baby is delivered or aborted in the third trimester.
There's a big diffrence for the baby however.
My nephew was born eight weeks early, under 5lbs. Today he wrestles in college, is 6'2" and weighs 240.
Big difference between 1st and 3rd trimester.
there is no diffrence to the mother if the baby is delivered or aborted in the third trimester.
That comment reinforces my claim you are dumber than a box of rocks.....
No I was repeating what promenade OB/GYN'++
Again, you are full of shit.....!!!!
All you showed is you can't marshal a logical argument and that you don't have the maturity to gracefully concede the point.
on't have the maturity to gracefully concede the point.
And you remain full of shit....you can't provide a source for your claim since no promenade Dr would agree with your claim....asshole
Cuomo is going to burn in hell.
cuomo has made a political calculation. he's willing to accept a number of future democrat voters dying via abortion because he has an endless stream of democrats streaming across the southern border.
this is exactly why democrats don't care about border security. they never have and they never will.
Anonymous Myballs said...
My nephew was born eight weeks early, under 5lbs
God bless him.....technology has come a long way!!!!
Cuomo is going to burn in hell.
I'm sure God will take your verdict....as to streams of beaners coming in....HORSESHIT
Funny how cramps once again disappears after being called out to back up his claim....says one thing...he's as full of shit as trump..
Maybe I'll call cramps going AWOL it is a strategic retreat by a chicken shit...
as to streams of beaners coming in....HORSESHIT
well, how did we end up with 20 MILLION illegals then, genius?
Texas alone, 95k illegals registered to vote, 58k voted. TX sec of state is pursuing it.
Texas alone, 95k illegals registered to vote, 58k voted.
HORSE SHIT!!!
Town Hall is about as credible as you and cramps.....idiot... Since it is so widely known why aren't there headlines of fraudulent votes being cast like trumps millions????? LOOL
this is exactly why democrats don't care about border security. they never have and they never will.
It may not be the guarentee slam dunk the Democrats hope for. We have a large Latin America community down here (or I should say communities). In talking to people who come from socialist countries like Venezuela, Peru, Guatemala they really dispise socilisim.
It was these communities along with the Cuban Americans and to a surprising degree Puerto Ricans who elected Rick Scott as senator and Ron DeSantis as governor.
A couple of other things to note about these communities:
1. The dispise abortion to an overwhelming degree.
2. The are not only against same sex marriage, they find the whole concept incomprehensible.
3. They find the whole transgender debate incomprehensible as well.
4. They dispise the whole idea of wealth redistribution.
5. They are primarily Catholic although there is a growing evangelical community.
6. They for a high quality low cost health system but don't particulary care about the details.
7. They love the freedom and the possibilities this country has to offer for those that work.
8. They are suspecious of government because without fail, the government in the countries they came from were corrupt and incompetent.
Blogger Commonsense said...
this is exactly why democrats don't care about border security. they never have and they never will.
Another pile of horseshit that you eat with gusto when it is still warm.....That talking point is about as valid as you being a doctor....idiot..
This is nothing more than a precognitive reflex.
It may not be the guarentee slam dunk the Democrats hope for.
indeed, but they've placed their bet and i'm convinced the odds do favor them.
look at it this way - if democrats were convinced that illegals would definitely vote republican, we'd have a 100 ft. wall, a razor wire moat, a mine field, and armed drones flying up and down the border shooting anything that moved.
And your posts cramps, are a pile of misinformed cultist bullshit that never has support in anything but your opinion, right Dr McPeabrain????
Quote of the Day
January 26, 2019 at 12:05 am EST
“He was playing double-A ball against major leaguers.”
— Former Rep. Tom Davis (R-VA), quoted by the AP, on how President Trump backed himself into a government shutdown with no way out.
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Trump’s Retreat Bewilders Allies
January 25, 2019 at 10:54 pm EST
A former White House official tells Politico that President Trump’s core supporters and former aides are “furious” and “melting down.”
“Bewildered by his decision to accept a deal without funding for a wall on the southern border — not even the ‘down payment’ the White House had requested a day earlier — some of his most loyal supporters fretted that Trump was in danger of losing his fervent base that has fueled his presidency.”
Said another former White House aide: “He allowed 35 days of chaos and hurt all for nothing.”
Meanwhile, the Washington Post reports Fox Business host Lou Dobbs, who described himself as an “an animated, energetic supporter of this president,” conceded that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) “has just whipped the president of the United States.”
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Quote of the Week
January 25, 2019 at 10:19 pm EST
“Our diversity is our strength. But our unity is our power. And that is what maybe the president underestimated.”
— Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), quoted by the Washington Post.
look at it this way - if democrats were convinced that illegals would definitely vote republican, we'd have a 100 ft. wall, a razor wire moat, a mine field, and armed drones flying up and down the border shooting anything that moved.
Agree, but I for one will enjoy seeing them get fucked if they lose that bet.
The "diversity of opinion" in her caucus is what's going to give Pelosi headaches. ]
JOHN PODESTA SPEAKS OF
Roger Stone’s Time In the Barrel
January 25, 2019 at 10:29 pm EST
John Podesta:
“Despite my Italian roots, vengeance doesn’t run deep in my veins. But I admit I smiled when Roger Stone’s arrest was announced Friday morning.
“To give some context: On Oct. 7, 2016, WikiLeaks began leaking emails from my personal inbox that had been hacked by Russian intelligence operatives. A few days earlier, Stone — a longtime Republican operative and close confidant of then-candidate Donald Trump — had mysteriously predicted that the organization would reveal damaging information about the Clinton campaign. And weeks before that, he’d even tweeted: ‘Trust me, it will soon be Podesta’s time in the barrel.'
“Stone’s connection with and boasting about WikiLeaks during the campaign has always been fishy. But thanks to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation, the truth is finally coming out.”
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AND NOW THIS:
Trump Campaign Had 100+ Contacts with Russians
January 26, 2019 at 8:12 am EST
“During the 2016 presidential campaign and transition, Donald Trump and at least 17 campaign officials and advisers had contacts with Russian nationals and WikiLeaks, or their intermediaries, a New York Times analysis has found. At least 10 other associates were told about interactions but did not have any themselves.
“Among these contacts are more than 100 in-person meetings, phone calls, text messages, emails and private messages on Twitter. Mr. Trump and his campaign repeatedly denied having such contacts with Russians during the 2016 election.”
COMMON said...
The "diversity of opinion" in her caucus is what's going to give Pelosi headaches.
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Not as split as the GOP now is.
a New York Times analysis has found.
LOL.
The White House Is a Mess
January 26, 2019 at 10:16 am EST By Taegan Goddard 27 Comments
Playbook: “Everyone we speak to in the administration and on Capitol Hill says that since Mick Mulvaney took over as chief of staff, the process in the White House has gone to hell. The shutdown became a Jared Kushner show, and the people whose job it is to deal with policy and politics were sidelined. Of course, Kushner is the president’s son in law, and his camp believes he was empowered to do this by the president.”
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A Wounded Trump Faces Uncertain 2020 Prospects
January 26, 2019 at 10:24 am EST
“President Trump’s defeat in his border-wall standoff with Congress has clouded his already perilous path to a second term in 2020, undercutting Mr. Trump’s cherished image as a forceful leader and deft negotiator, and emboldening alike his Democratic challengers and Republican dissenters who hope to block his re-election,” the New York Times reports.
“The longest government shutdown in history inflicted severe political damage on the president, dragging down his poll numbers even among Republicans and stirring concern among party leaders about his ability to navigate the next two years of divided government. Mr. Trump, close associates acknowledge, appears without a plan for mounting a strong campaign in 2020, or for persuading the majority of Americans who view him negatively to give him another chance.”
6 Billion x 12 months = $72 Billion Dollars
Wow, that is news. That those Federal workers create that much wealth .
Your numbers Dennis.
For 800,ooo federal workers creating $72 Billion
Continuing with Denise's numbers each Federal worker creates $90,000 in economic activity. Fantastic!!!
Not as split as the GOP now is.
What split?
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