“It was all about the sanctions,” Trump said at a news conference after the talks were cut short. “Basically, they wanted the sanctions lifted in their entirety, and we couldn’t do that.”
A self-proclaimed dealmaker, Trump leaves summit humbled and empty-handed.
The unexpected collapse of talks with North Korea were a setback for President Trump, who invested more than a year cultivating a friendship with Kim Jong Un. Aka "Rocket Man" and my "good friend".
About what you expect from Roger and the TDS infected left.
Part of the art of the deal is knowing when to walk away.
Regan did it with Gorbachev and some of the naysayers today had the exact same criticism of Regan then. But on the second meeting he got a better, stronger deal.
Hey liver he didn’t bow to Kim, apologize for America or send pallets of cash to an enemy.
this perfectly encapsulates and illustrates just how bad the TDS is on the left, especially in the media.
0linsky gave the mullahs in iran everything they wanted, PLUS SOME, and the media heralded the deal like it was the greatest agreement in the history of the known universe.
trump says "fuck no" to kim and walks, and the media paints it as an epic failure.
My dad was actually working on the anti-nuclear missile system during the Reagan administration and the negotiations with Gorbachev and Reagan.
Having lived through the Cuban missile crisis while living in Rapid City South Dakota, right next door to Ellsworth air force base and surrounded by nuclear missile sites, I don't want to hear missile warning sirens once again.
We are within range of the North Koreans nuclear weapons.
When he came back home from the North Dakota anti-nuclear weapons program he was very happy. Ivan "Ike" Amick was a good man and father. He was not an alcoholic.
the last president gave nukes and billion$ to the iranian mullahs, capitulated to the chinese on a one-sided climate deal, let putin do donuts on the white house lawn for 8 years while seizing crimea and the ukraine, paid a ransom for a traitorous hostage, pissed away victory in iraq, telegraphed our intent in afghanistan, got his bluff called on a red line in syria, and kicked off his shitshow of a presidency by apologetically fellating the moose-limbs in cairo.
and that's just off the top of my head.
but it's THIS president that keeps you up at night.
you're insane.
she may be gone, but mail order needs to get a restraining order just to be safe.
Roger Amick said... I don't want to hear missile warning sirens once again.
Yet you supported a president who never met with North Korea or made a dent in its nuclear path, sent 150 BILLION dollars to Iran without even meeting personally with it's leaders and at best only delayed their nuclear trajectory. Trump is trying and having some successes despite the resistance.
Obama's end game of Duck and Cover and bowing down was not a good plan
my father and mother were democrats because of JFK. as in - "ask not what your country can do for you..."
as opposed to FDR"s "free shit for life" which fiscally haunts us to this day, and has probably been one of the greatest barriers to wealth creation in the history of man.
my gosh, what could have been done with all of the $$$ the government confiscated from us to buy the parasite vote.
the 'great society' alone has cost us roughly $20 TRILLION. tack on the historical confiscation of SS $$$ and that number probably doubles.
and for what? net-net, neither welfare scheme has truly solved a fucking thing other than purchasing democrat votes.
so there's your dad's TRUE legacy, alky. and you proudly carry it on in all your parasitic glory.
This sounds about right. I'm not rooting for failure.
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said North Korean leader Kim Jong Un was "unprepared" to meet US demands.
"We didn't get to something that made sense for the United States of America. I think Chairman Kim was hopeful that we would. We asked him to do more. He was unprepared to do that. But I'm still optimistic," he said.
Pompeo went on to say the negotiations will take time.
"I think as we continue to work on this days and the weeks ahead we can make progress so that -- we can achieve what it is that the world wants which is to denuclearize North Korea and reduce risk for the American people and the people around the world," he said.
FDR"s "free shit for life" which fiscally haunts us to this day, and has probably been one of the greatest barriers to wealth creation in the history of man, made us the wealthiest nation in history.
if you honestly believe that it was FDR's redistributionist policies that made us the wealthiest nation in history you're too stupid to be alive, alky.
government, by definition, creates nothing. not wealth, nor anything else. what government has managed to achieve a level of competency doing is killing people and mailing out checks.
any student of history, as you claim to be, or should i say any HONEST student of history, will admit this.
social security was established as a classic ponzi scheme and remains a classic ponzi scheme to this day. and taking $$$ from me and giving it to you is not a creation of wealth. it is a transfer of wealth. at gunpoint. it "creates" nothing.
and you understand absolutely none of this. which explains why you required a union to negotiate your pay as a nailbender.
our status as the world's wealthiest nation is IN SPITE OF and not because of FDR's redistributionist policies.
any moron can steal your wallet and give it to me. that requires nothing but force and greed. something our government has in excess.
it takes someone with intellect and ambition to take what's in their own wallet and put it to work building the next fortune 500 company.
Your dementia is getting worse.
on the contrary - your psychological projection never takes a holiday.
Kim Jong Un Criticized For Meeting With Nation That Has Killed 60 Million Babies https://babylonbee.com/news/kim-jong-un-criticized-for-meeting-with-nation-that-has-killed-60-million-babies …
Uber and Lyft, the two ride-hailing giants, both are planning initial public offerings of their stock. And both of them are doing something interesting: offering their most valuable drivers cash bonuses that can be exchanged for equity at the IPO price — giving them the opportunity to buy in on the same terms as the big Wall Street players. This is an excellent idea, and one that should be encouraged. As the Wall Street Journal reports:
"It is typically hard for an ordinary investor to buy a company’s stock at its IPO price before it begins trading on an exchange, so this move would give drivers access they likely wouldn’t have had otherwise.
Uber is working out the details of a program expected to be valued in the hundreds of millions of dollars that would give a significant portion of its 3 million active drivers and couriers globally either a cash bonus or the option to use that cash to purchase shares at the IPO price, people familiar with the matter said. These awards will be tiered based on a sliding scale related to the driver’s length of service and number of trips or deliveries."
Democrats howled with derision at George W. Bush’s program for an “ownership society,” a set of policies that would encourage those with lower and middle incomes to invest in things like company shares and other assets and encourage employers to include such assets in their compensation packages. “Sweat equity” compensation for non-executive employees once was, famously, a part of the high-tech startup model: Microsoft’s IPO created three billionaires, but it also created about 12,000 millionaires, many of them mid-level employees in less specialized positions who had worked for the company for years while accepting equity in lieu of higher cash salaries.
Whatever else comes of the Hanoi summit, it sends a clear message that we're serious. Trump had every political reason to settle for a bad deal he could market as an unprecedented diplomatic success. Most of his predecessors would have done it.
If you honestly believe that it was FDR's redistributionist policies didn't make us the wealthiest nation in history you're too stupid to be alive, Jimmy.
The threat of Communism as an alternative to regulated capitalism and the growth of the middle class. Just prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor, we had almost completely recovered from the Great Depression.
FDR and the Cold war, that you would have opposed has brought democracy to Europe and most of Asia, with the exception of Communist China.
Richard Nixon was smart enough to open the door to China.
We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong ... somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. ... I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. ... And an enormous debt to boot.[19]
Henry Moegunthau Jr. Treasury Secretary under Franklin Delonore Roosevelt
After his first summit with Kim, Trump tweeted: “There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea.” Now, after the second summit, North Korea’s nuclear threat is greater than ever. That is no victory.
If you honestly believe that it was FDR's redistributionist policies didn't make us the wealthiest nation in history you're too stupid to be alive, Jimmy.
point to one that did. just one.
it was his policies that lengthened the depression, making it "great" years after other countries affected by it had long since recovered. this is documented fact.
FDR's policies included price fixing, wage fixing, and paying one guy to dig the hole while paying another to fill it in.
that created zero wealth. he launched plenty of make-work policies paid for with printed $$$ while protecting organized labor. he literally made the federal government the largest employer in the nation. that doesn't create any fucking wealth. it simply makes the majority of the adult population a ward of the state.
had FDR left us to our own devices while backstopping the credit markets and monitoring the $$$ supply, i'll bet we would've emerged from the depression more quickly and economically healthier and wealthier by a long shot.
emergence from WW II as the only industrial nation left standing was the first real creation of wealth in America since industrialization. japan was a cinder and germany was reduced to rubble. if anyone on the planet wanted to buy a durable good, we were the ones to build it for them. we enjoyed a virtual monopoly this, and the actual WEALTH that we created along the way. this lasted for a generation, until japan and germany recovered. then japan at least proceeded to clean our clocks in the auto industry, thanks largely to the UAW.
look, i know you worship government as your god. that doesn't make you right.
AOC wants to spend over $90 TRILLION on her green new scheme. how much actual wealth do you expect that to create? and i'm talking after she's had the chance to line HER pockets while reducing our fossil fuel powered economy to ruin?
FDR and the Cold war, that you would have opposed has brought democracy to Europe and most of Asia, with the exception of Communist China.
this is so fucking incoherent i can't address it.
alky, i just picked up a copy of charles krauthammer's final compilation - the point of it all
i highly recommend it. from time to time you've chosen to copy/paste CK around here when it suits whatever lamebrained hackish point you're trying to make. i suggest you pick up a copy and read ALL CK had to say.
he even addresses some of what we're discussing on this thread.
try it. i know you won't. your mind is as slammed and locked shut as a human mind can be.
I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. ... And an enormous debt to boot.[19]
eight years.
that's what made your regular, run of the mill depression GREAT.
this has always been a fundamental problem with liberals - they simply cannot imagine a world where the people are not completely and totally dependent upon the government.
witness my governor cuomo most recently -
he stands wide-eyed and slack-jawed in amazement as productive NY'ers with means FLEE this state in DROVES.
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North Koreans in free fall.
A self-proclaimed dealmaker, Trump leaves summit humbled and empty-handed.
The unexpected collapse of talks with North Korea were a setback for President Trump, who invested more than a year cultivating a friendship with Kim Jong Un. Aka "Rocket Man" and my "good friend".
Hey liver he didn’t bow to Kim, apologize for America or send pallets of cash to an enemy.
You just don’t get it. Down some opiates and go back to bed
Kim Jong Un will be taking a 24 hour trip on a train through China. I have to wonder what the Chinese may do during this trip.
A war on the North Korean peninsula is not they want.
About what you expect from Roger and the TDS infected left.
Part of the art of the deal is knowing when to walk away.
Regan did it with Gorbachev and some of the naysayers today had the exact same criticism of Regan then. But on the second meeting he got a better, stronger deal.
Get your six pack and go home and guzzle them down with some popcorn.
“Basically, they wanted the sanctions lifted in their entirety, and we couldn’t do that.”
A self-proclaimed dealmaker didn't get shit.
Hence, no deal.
A self-proclaimed dealmaker didn't get shit.
goddamn.
no wonder mail order bailed on your dumb ass.
he didn't get shit, so he didn't give shit.
he walked. as you're supposed to do when you don't like a deal.
you dumb fucks are rooting so hard for trump's failure you can't even grasp the basics.
On the political side, the self-proclaimed dealmaker didn't get shit.
I just have to worry about this President. He isn't Ronald Reagan. This was the second meeting between the two leaders.
Reagan was not a compulsive person. He didn't want to be a wartime President. This one worries me more more based upon his prior behavior.
Hey liver he didn’t bow to Kim, apologize for America or send pallets of cash to an enemy.
this perfectly encapsulates and illustrates just how bad the TDS is on the left, especially in the media.
0linsky gave the mullahs in iran everything they wanted, PLUS SOME, and the media heralded the deal like it was the greatest agreement in the history of the known universe.
trump says "fuck no" to kim and walks, and the media paints it as an epic failure.
I just have to worry about this President.
i'm sure YOU do.
those of us of sound mind? not so much.
alky, i'd like to have some empathy for you and your mental illness, and even the fact that mail order walked on your sorry ass...
...but you have made no effort to even take the first step towards recovery - admitting you have a problem.
ironic, considering how you waive around your AA status like a badge of honor.
to openly root for the failure of our president as he attempts to deal with a situation that has such significant global security implications.
i cannot even begin to describe just how fucked up that really is.
My dad was actually working on the anti-nuclear missile system during the Reagan administration and the negotiations with Gorbachev and Reagan.
Having lived through the Cuban missile crisis while living in Rapid City South Dakota, right next door to Ellsworth air force base and surrounded by nuclear missile sites, I don't want to hear missile warning sirens once again.
We are within range of the North Koreans nuclear weapons.
My dad was actually working on the anti-nuclear missile system during the Reagan administration and the negotiations with Gorbachev and Reagan.
of course he was.
and i'll bet he was rooting FOR gorbachev and AGAINST reagan during the negotiations too.
your mental illness didn't spring up out of nowhere. it had to be inherited.
I am not rooting for an epic failure.
That's your epic proportions fantasy.
I just have to worry about this President.
The Chinese may have to do something.
My parents were part of the greatest generation. My father and his two brothers fought in World War Two. He was a lifelong Democrat because of FDR.
When he came back home from the North Dakota anti-nuclear weapons program he was very happy. Ivan "Ike" Amick was a good man and father. He was not an alcoholic.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
I am not rooting for an epic failure.
sure you are. you're dancing a jig over this -
A self-proclaimed dealmaker didn't get shit.
giving the guy zero credit for walking away.
I just have to worry about this President.
OF COURSE you do.
the last president gave nukes and billion$ to the iranian mullahs, capitulated to the chinese on a one-sided climate deal, let putin do donuts on the white house lawn for 8 years while seizing crimea and the ukraine, paid a ransom for a traitorous hostage, pissed away victory in iraq, telegraphed our intent in afghanistan, got his bluff called on a red line in syria, and kicked off his shitshow of a presidency by apologetically fellating the moose-limbs in cairo.
and that's just off the top of my head.
but it's THIS president that keeps you up at night.
you're insane.
she may be gone, but mail order needs to get a restraining order just to be safe.
Roger Amick said...
I don't want to hear missile warning sirens once again.
Yet you supported a president who never met with North Korea or made a dent in its nuclear path, sent 150 BILLION dollars to Iran without even meeting personally with it's leaders and at best only delayed their nuclear trajectory. Trump is trying and having some successes despite the resistance.
Obama's end game of Duck and Cover and bowing down was not a good plan
Thank God for President Trump
He was a lifelong Democrat because of FDR.
that explains a lot.
my father and mother were democrats because of JFK. as in - "ask not what your country can do for you..."
as opposed to FDR"s "free shit for life" which fiscally haunts us to this day, and has probably been one of the greatest barriers to wealth creation in the history of man.
my gosh, what could have been done with all of the $$$ the government confiscated from us to buy the parasite vote.
the 'great society' alone has cost us roughly $20 TRILLION. tack on the historical confiscation of SS $$$ and that number probably doubles.
and for what? net-net, neither welfare scheme has truly solved a fucking thing other than purchasing democrat votes.
so there's your dad's TRUE legacy, alky. and you proudly carry it on in all your parasitic glory.
This sounds about right. I'm not rooting for failure.
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said North Korean leader Kim Jong Un was "unprepared" to meet US demands.
"We didn't get to something that made sense for the United States of America. I think Chairman Kim was hopeful that we would. We asked him to do more. He was unprepared to do that. But I'm still optimistic," he said.
Pompeo went on to say the negotiations will take time.
"I think as we continue to work on this days and the weeks ahead we can make progress so that -- we can achieve what it is that the world wants which is to denuclearize North Korea and reduce risk for the American people and the people around the world," he said.
We will see.
I'm not going to build a fallout shelter.... yet.
FDR"s "free shit for life" which fiscally haunts us to this day, and has probably been one of the greatest barriers to wealth creation in the history of man, made us the wealthiest nation in history.
Your dementia is getting worse.
made us the wealthiest nation in history.
if you honestly believe that it was FDR's redistributionist policies that made us the wealthiest nation in history you're too stupid to be alive, alky.
government, by definition, creates nothing. not wealth, nor anything else. what government has managed to achieve a level of competency doing is killing people and mailing out checks.
any student of history, as you claim to be, or should i say any HONEST student of history, will admit this.
social security was established as a classic ponzi scheme and remains a classic ponzi scheme to this day. and taking $$$ from me and giving it to you is not a creation of wealth. it is a transfer of wealth. at gunpoint. it "creates" nothing.
and you understand absolutely none of this. which explains why you required a union to negotiate your pay as a nailbender.
our status as the world's wealthiest nation is IN SPITE OF and not because of FDR's redistributionist policies.
any moron can steal your wallet and give it to me. that requires nothing but force and greed. something our government has in excess.
it takes someone with intellect and ambition to take what's in their own wallet and put it to work building the next fortune 500 company.
Your dementia is getting worse.
on the contrary - your psychological projection never takes a holiday.
Cadet Bone Spurs finally reports for duty in Vietnam...
@TheBabylonBee
Kim Jong Un Criticized For Meeting With Nation That Has Killed 60 Million Babies
https://babylonbee.com/news/kim-jong-un-criticized-for-meeting-with-nation-that-has-killed-60-million-babies …
hey alky...
speaking of wealth "creation"
Uber and Lyft, the two ride-hailing giants, both are planning initial public offerings of their stock. And both of them are doing something interesting: offering their most valuable drivers cash bonuses that can be exchanged for equity at the IPO price — giving them the opportunity to buy in on the same terms as the big Wall Street players. This is an excellent idea, and one that should be encouraged. As the Wall Street Journal reports:
"It is typically hard for an ordinary investor to buy a company’s stock at its IPO price before it begins trading on an exchange, so this move would give drivers access they likely wouldn’t have had otherwise.
Uber is working out the details of a program expected to be valued in the hundreds of millions of dollars that would give a significant portion of its 3 million active drivers and couriers globally either a cash bonus or the option to use that cash to purchase shares at the IPO price, people familiar with the matter said. These awards will be tiered based on a sliding scale related to the driver’s length of service and number of trips or deliveries."
Democrats howled with derision at George W. Bush’s program for an “ownership society,” a set of policies that would encourage those with lower and middle incomes to invest in things like company shares and other assets and encourage employers to include such assets in their compensation packages. “Sweat equity” compensation for non-executive employees once was, famously, a part of the high-tech startup model: Microsoft’s IPO created three billionaires, but it also created about 12,000 millionaires, many of them mid-level employees in less specialized positions who had worked for the company for years while accepting equity in lieu of higher cash salaries.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/beto-orourke-decides-not-to-run-for-senate-next-year/
but leave it up to an economic illiterate like AOC to come along and fuck this all up.
better for uncle sugar to hand out free shit for votes, than for the free market to create new wealth out of hard work and ingenuity.
@Doc_0
Whatever else comes of the Hanoi summit, it sends a clear message that we're serious. Trump had every political reason to settle for a bad deal he could market as an unprecedented diplomatic success. Most of his predecessors would have done it.
Great job Mr President
👍
If you honestly believe that it was FDR's redistributionist policies didn't make us the wealthiest nation in history you're too stupid to be alive, Jimmy.
The threat of Communism as an alternative to regulated capitalism and the growth of the middle class. Just prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor, we had almost completely recovered from the Great Depression.
FDR and the Cold war, that you would have opposed has brought democracy to Europe and most of Asia, with the exception of Communist China.
Richard Nixon was smart enough to open the door to China.
You're not very bright.
We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong ... somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. ... I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. ... And an enormous debt to boot.[19]
Henry Moegunthau Jr. Treasury Secretary under Franklin Delonore Roosevelt
After his first summit with Kim, Trump tweeted: “There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea.” Now, after the second summit, North Korea’s nuclear threat is greater than ever. That is no victory.
Rare praise from the never trumpers and even Joe Biden. They said Trump walking away from the deal was the right thing to do.
If you honestly believe that it was FDR's redistributionist policies didn't make us the wealthiest nation in history you're too stupid to be alive, Jimmy.
point to one that did. just one.
it was his policies that lengthened the depression, making it "great" years after other countries affected by it had long since recovered. this is documented fact.
FDR's policies included price fixing, wage fixing, and paying one guy to dig the hole while paying another to fill it in.
that created zero wealth. he launched plenty of make-work policies paid for with printed $$$ while protecting organized labor. he literally made the federal government the largest employer in the nation. that doesn't create any fucking wealth. it simply makes the majority of the adult population a ward of the state.
had FDR left us to our own devices while backstopping the credit markets and monitoring the $$$ supply, i'll bet we would've emerged from the depression more quickly and economically healthier and wealthier by a long shot.
emergence from WW II as the only industrial nation left standing was the first real creation of wealth in America since industrialization. japan was a cinder and germany was reduced to rubble. if anyone on the planet wanted to buy a durable good, we were the ones to build it for them. we enjoyed a virtual monopoly this, and the actual WEALTH that we created along the way. this lasted for a generation, until japan and germany recovered. then japan at least proceeded to clean our clocks in the auto industry, thanks largely to the UAW.
look, i know you worship government as your god. that doesn't make you right.
AOC wants to spend over $90 TRILLION on her green new scheme. how much actual wealth do you expect that to create? and i'm talking after she's had the chance to line HER pockets while reducing our fossil fuel powered economy to ruin?
FDR and the Cold war, that you would have opposed has brought democracy to Europe and most of Asia, with the exception of Communist China.
this is so fucking incoherent i can't address it.
alky, i just picked up a copy of charles krauthammer's final compilation - the point of it all
i highly recommend it. from time to time you've chosen to copy/paste CK around here when it suits whatever lamebrained hackish point you're trying to make. i suggest you pick up a copy and read ALL CK had to say.
he even addresses some of what we're discussing on this thread.
try it. i know you won't. your mind is as slammed and locked shut as a human mind can be.
I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. ... And an enormous debt to boot.[19]
eight years.
that's what made your regular, run of the mill depression GREAT.
this has always been a fundamental problem with liberals - they simply cannot imagine a world where the people are not completely and totally dependent upon the government.
witness my governor cuomo most recently -
he stands wide-eyed and slack-jawed in amazement as productive NY'ers with means FLEE this state in DROVES.
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