Tuesday, February 19, 2019

There is no "legal" reason for the President to justify a national emergency...

Except your liberal media pushes the narrative that this President is different....

So the general public has been bombarded by the ad nauseum argument that there must be some sort of "good reason" for the President to declare a national emergency. However, Presidents have declared national emergency after national emergency for things that in some cases have almost nothing to do with the United States, much less formulate a clear domestic emergency.

For instance in 2003 President Bush declared a national emergency "blocking property of persons undermining Democratic processes or institutions in Zimbabwe" as an effort to punish associates of Robert Mugabe. In 2014 President Obama declared a national emergency "blocking property of certain persons with respect to South Sudan" as a response to the ongoing civil war.

How about a 2015 national emergency regarding a coup in Burundi? Seriously?

If someone wants to explain to me why punishing associates of Robert Mugabe, taking sides in a civil war in South Sudan, or some interfering in some coup in Burundi is a national American emergency, but our border situation is not, then I would be happy to hear you out. But make no mistake, you start off on the defensive of having to explain why it's even possible for things happening in obscure countries across the globe can constitute a national emergency here in America.

The truth is that Presidents do not have to explain to anyone why they believe there is a national emergency. Or  at least they never have had to in the past. There is nothing in the law that provides any judicial oversight of the President's decision making. The only oversight is congressional, and such oversight would be subject to a Presidential veto.

To be clear, there is certainly a political question, albeit a classic hypocritical question that is only asked of one President. But the President can make any sort of statement he wants about why he declared the emergency, and there is no acting oversight authority that he has to answer to, at least according to the law.

Yet,  it doesn't stop people from thinking that some Judge can and should simply step in (without a shred of constitutional authority) and for the first time in over fifty national emergencies make a judicial ruling that would block the President from declaring a national emergency. Moreover, there is more than a bit of reason to believe that some Judge (likely an Obama appointee) who will feel quite comfortable believing that it's his or her authority to supercede the President of the United States on an national security executive decision.

We have come to a crossroads here folks.  Do we live in the same Constitutional Republic that has existed since the formation of the United States of America? Or does it all get thrown out because certain people are still licking their wounds over the fact that Hillary Clinton lost to Donald Trump?


24 comments:

Commonsense said...

The left will never stop their bizarre temper tantrum until January 20, 2025.

And maybe not even then.

anonymous said...

Very sad you compare other declarations to the trump attempt to divert legally allocated funds to projects that he wants...Sure seems apples and tennis sneaker comparisons that weak minded assholes like you Lil Scotty use to rationalize your sucking of trumps dick......

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Relation with the President is not a National emergency.

Any more than his campaign promises that the Mexicans will pay for it.

Suck and swallow every single drop.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

his campaign promises that the Mexicans will pay for it is a personal emergency, not a National emergency.

Suck and swallow every single drop.

C.H. Truth said...

Denny

If someone wants to go to court and make the argument that the President does not have authority to shift the funds, then so be it.

If you allow Presidents to declare national emergencies to take sides in obscure coups, or to punish supporters of leaders who we are not in bed with... then there is no logical (and obviously no legal) reason to take issue with whether or not this "qualifies" as an emergency.


There is nothing in the law that would "elevate" the bar for what constitutes a national emergency, because of what actions are being taken.

Like it or not, those are two entirely different questions that must be judged separately.


C.H. Truth said...

Roger...

Blah blah blah!

Anonymous said...

CHT , you nailed him.

C.H. Truth said...

In a million years Roger could not make a valid argument as to why a Coup in Burundi is a national emergency...

so he repeats himself.

caliphate4vr said...


In a million years Roger could not make a valid argument as to why a Coup in Burundi is a national emergency...


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Anonymous said...

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An often-forgotten provision of Obamacare, a/k/a the Affordable Care Act (ACA), was its take-over of the federal student loan program, with claims that doing so would provide vast financial windfalls to help offset the ACA’s costs: $61 billion over 10 years, according to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO). Before the ACA, about half of federal student loans originated with private lenders while being guaranteed by the government. With the passage of the Act, the government became both the lender and the guarantor.

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Mollie said...


‏@MZHemingway

DOT announces cancellation of $929 million in grants for California's now-stopped high-speed rail project. Also "actively exploring every legal option to seek the return from California of $2.5 billion in Federal funds FRA previously granted for this now-defunct project."
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Let's get these transferred to the wall

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

In 2014 President Obama declared a national emergency "blocking property of certain persons with respect to South Sudan" as a response to the ongoing civil war.

The government was slaughtering people by the thousands. Was it a National Security, it's a matter of judgment to save thousands of "negros", so you don't care. You're much more worried about the possibility that the immigrants would eventually become US citizens and vote Democratic candidates.

This is the entire motivation for his wall.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Coup in Burundi would have led to the support for ISIS and other terrorist groups. It was clearly a threat to our nation security.

But the negro President was sworn in and you just couldn't understand how that happened.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Slurp

Anonymous said...

THE 5 freed Terrorist released from Gitmo in exchange for Coward and turn coat Bergdahl join Taliban Negotiations in Afghanistan.

Take that victory lap Obimbo.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump trusts Vladimir Putin

Take the victory lap with Putin and Trump!

He's a traitor.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Really don't want understand how people had a been and the oval office with the president and when he goes off on a tangent. There were shocked with his ability to believe what Putin said instead of what is intelligence people said to that to said to him.

I know you don't watch MSNBC but his a interview with isn't credible turn and can't believe what the president said and how he would completely disagree dismissed the and tell its just people that he believed Vladimir Putin.

This is not the 1st time we've heard that a people with it and tells us departments cannot believe how difficult is to talk to the man because he doesn't want to hear what they say. He believes what he wants to say to believe and nobody can change his mind because he says he knows everything about everything. He has no experience at Foreign Affairs. He doesn't seem to understand history. Is like an isolationist from the 1940s. They didn't want to stop the Russians they just want to pull out of Europe. We stopped World War 3 but the cold war. If we had listened to the isolationist we would all be dead.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Andrew McCabe: I'd never been to a meeting in the Oval Office before. I'm a career FBI agent-government worker.

Scott Pelley: Oval Office was above your pay grade.

Andrew McCabe: It certainly was. And the president immediately went off on a almost a gleeful description of what had happened with the firing of Jim Comey. And then he went on to state that people in the FBI were — were thrilled about this, that people really disliked Jim Comey and that they were very happy about this and that it was, it was a great thing.

Scott Pelley: He was telling you what the reaction inside the FBI was?

Andrew McCabe: He was. It was very different than the reaction I had seen immediately before I came to the White House.

Scott Pelley: Which was what?


Andrew McCabe: People were shocked. We had lost our leader, a leader who was respected and liked by the vast majority of FBI employees. People were very sad. But anyway, that night in the Oval Office what I was hearing from the president was, not reality. It was the version of the events that I quickly realized he wished me to adopt. As he went on talking about how happy people in the FBI were, he said to me, "I heard that you were part of the resistance."

Scott Pelley: What did he mean by that?

Andrew McCabe: Well I didn't know. And so I asked him. And he said, "I heard that you were one of the people that did not support Jim Comey. You didn't agree with him and the decisions that he'd made in the Clinton case. And is that true?" And I said, "No sir. That's not true. I worked very closely with Jim Comey. I was a part of that team and a part of those decisions."

Scott Pelley: You had the sense you'd given him the wrong answer.

Andrew McCabe: I knew I'd given him the wrong answer..

He didn't want to lock her up!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott, I know you want to hate the Fake News but.

Intimidation, Pressure and Humiliation: Inside Trump’s Two-Year War on the Investigations Encircling Him https://nyti.ms/2V9htqR

Anonymous said...

Bernie Sanders is In.
IF, the Democrats and CNN don't work against him, he can win the Socialist Democrat Party Nomination.

Then it will be Sanders Socialism vs. Trump Freedom.

At least BERNIE is a honest Socialist.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Roger,

I just received a fundraising email from Nancy Pelosi where she said, “what is happening at our border is not remotely an emergency.”

It’s clear that deep in her heart, she simply doesn’t care about the safety and well-being of American Citizens. Your security is at risk because of the crisis at our southern border -- a major entry point for criminals, gang members, and illegal drugs.

Since Nancy has become Speaker of the House she has done absolutely nothing but OBSTRUCT our progress. It’s a TOTAL CON-JOB put on by Democratic leadership.

Let’s make sure she hears the voice of everyday Americans by helping us CRUSH our unprecedented goal of $2,OOO,OOO.

Donald J. Trump

I did not send him $

Commonsense said...

Roger for once got it right, it is fake news by "sources" who are not named and won't go on the record.

Like every other Halberman hit job it won't stand up on scrutiny.

The New York Times motto should be changed to "all the deep-state propergands fit to print".

Commonsense said...

BTW they better be careful who they defame. The Washington Post is about to be at least 250 million dollars lighter. And if I was on the jury I would award far more in punitive damages.

Commonsense said...

If Roger was nominally a clear and intelligent thinker he would been curious the timing of New York Times publishing a snarky hit piece a day after McCabe confess that all the investigations launched against Trump was for the express purpose of removing him from power or failing that, damage his presidency so much as to be ineffectual.

The grossly political nature of these investigations totally undermines their legitimacy.